What DAW Has Everything You Need To Make Music?
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In this episode the guys have heated debate about what DAW has the best eco system and culture. Does FL Studio have a good eco system with their FL keyboard hardware and plugins? Is native instruments the only true eco system becuase they have hardware specifically for their DAWS? Does pro tools eco system exist? Lets find out.
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Secondly per mashine they are not a daw
Studio One has the best ecosystem hands down. Presonus makes all the hardware: Interfaces, monitors, production controllers, daw controllers, mics, etc.
And all the software: DAW that includes endless producer packs, tutorials, apps, mastering software, live performance software, etc. Everything is closely integrated with each other. Everything just works, effortlessly.
Seriously, these guys have to at least try Studio One for a couple weeks. These hot takes would be so much better.
Exactly!
I second this. Studio One has changed everything for me.
"Out of the box" Logic, Cubase, and Studio One... You can do everything you need in those DAWs without having to pull up another one to do something else.
L. Jean was on smoke 😂 You guys add such value to the audio community. Keep doing what you're doing🙏🏽
Nah my boy was shooting from half and making it today
@@HelpMeDevvonfacts 😂😂😂😂😂
Can't sleep on Studio One's ecosystem either--it's great! It's great from the fat channel plugins, faderports (pretty sure I've seen the Io 24c station on HMD lol), interfaces, ATOM pad controllers, microphones, monitors, and headphones. It's great quality and a wonderful start for people just getting in. Most people will upgrade, but it's not terrible if you don't right away. I'm definitely happy with the Presonus ecosystem--I wouldn't feel like I'm missing much if I had to stay within Presonus ecosystem.
They have one of the best monitor controller out there too...🔥
Bro…Courtney was literally the quiet marriage counselor towards the end of this episode Lmfaooo. Dev and LJ were getting hypeeee over that damn mbox convo AGAIN hahaha.
Devvon had his first parent moment when he pointed to his ear and said “LISTEN” 🤣 I do the same thing to my 3 year old. I was like OH SHIT devvon just had a dad experience LOL.
Aint gon lie … this was L.Jean’s episode, he was ready for you Devvon 😂
No cap he went hard and set me up lmao
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Studio One is THE God of All Daws
They dont know yet !
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Facts and LOGIC are the REASON I use FL. I wish I had started with fl STUDIO ONE, but I was late to the gang and started with 9. It works like MAGIX! It’s easy to use for beginners, but it also has a lot of PRO TOOLS for people who are more TECHNICA with AUDIO. Just wanna say, if you’re not SHURE about what DAW to get, just know that with FL, you will be ABLE-TON make a ton of music that won’t make you sound like a “GARAGE BAND.” So what are you waiting for? CUE that BASS! Oh, and great podcast btw. CLA-ter!
SALUTE lol
Logic Pro X is my go to.
aye just wanna say congrats on everything you guys, the pod is amazing and im happy seeing all your success forreal
Yooo Im already excited about this topic!!
I would say you can do everything in every major daw, just that some things you may have to find workarounds or it may take more steps in one than the other, but I think you can get to the end goal you want in all of them if you are skilled enough.
Love your podcast, keep up the discussions and I appreciate how you are supporting the community ❤❤❤
Got your mixcraft guy in here, love you guys
Love y’all podcast 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Favorite Podcast fr!!
Lol great episode. LJ got you with the ecosystem vs add-on discussion ngl
Still on Apogee Element 24, Logic, my 2nd daw is Ableton for live shows, maschine and imaschine. Keep up the great work gentlemen!
You guys are making aloud of noise. Much love keep it up i really enjoy the channel.
Audio Battle Rap Bars Issa MUST DEVVON ‼️🔥🔥
Love this show listen to it religiously every week lol Quick question what is better, or what pre amp sounds the cleanest,the old Avid MBox 3,interface or Focusrite 2i2 3rd generation utilizing a older mac 2016 with mohave?
Reason has been had that “Snap to scale”
tell me why i was at disneyland earlier and still had to listen to the pod ill never miss when the boys drop!
I’d say akai has an ecosystem. Stand-alone Mpc’s can also be used as controllers in other DAWs but integrate so seamlessly with the mpc software they also have plugins and sound packs/expansions. You can also use other 3rd party packs within the software and 3rd party vsts in it.
Thats not an ecosystem. We have a solar system 😅
12:30 Metro, Zaytoven , Honorable C NOTE etc , be using mpc as their main daw for beats , I be on the mpc standalone then bounce out into luna for the summing , tape, n other plugins
Y’all really be sleeping on Studio One 😂 LJean channel is great Courtney we need that ASAP! FL won with integrated first party stem separation
That stem separation update is crzy I’m finna download it ASASP
FL is late
I'm Reason all day, but I'm flirting HARD with Ableton!! That said, FL dropping crazy features in Beta right now.
Facts!!
First time watching the full Podcast this is my type of talk. Logic users definitely default to Ableton as a second Daw. It's the most comfortable to switch to.
Same here. 1st full episode! I Usually catch them on instagram.
Ur right. Everytime I look at ableton I kinda want to get in there and snoop around 😅
An idea: you can also represent DAW and rap battle for your DAW, like fl studio stock plugins vs abletons etc… 😁
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 episode
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Y'all really be sleeping on Studio One and its ecosystem. Love you guys so much.
what is in studio one ecosystem?
Let everyone keep sleeping it will let Studio Once continue to be great
Courtney having the moment Devvon was talking about, when people see value in you.
Factssss
Courtney is him fr fr
I’ll be honest. I’ve been super tempted to invest in getting gear from native instruments and have everything from them. I’ve been using kontakt like a ton! I I see that their midi keyboard work seamlessly.
I minus well get a native instruments setup and work in their ecosystem.
🤔 Rap battle...like yall are the personification of your DAW 😮🫨 loving it! I want to hear those Audio-Nerd BARS!
Ahahahahah we working on it
Thank you for being a member my friend!
Reaper (Plain and Simple) literally!
damn switching those mics was THEE move yall sound so good bro
Shoutout to LAUTEN!!!!
Ths was one of the greatest episodes hands down . Love yall man!
i love how court just big chillin
It would be nice if PT plug ins were vst ans au accessible. The closest is AIR old school but effective
😂 episode had me crying L. Jean was swinging in this one no cap🤣 love what y’all do I watch these on repeat!
that new FL stem separation immediately reminded me of jeans LALA a.i story 😂
STUDIO ONE IS THE TRUTH💪
I use reason 12 and pro tools both great more fluent in reason for beats want to learn mixing better in protools but they both do everything but reason has ssl mixer built in
I unnecessarily bought the Slate Digital Raven board for touchscreen mixing 😅
Let’s be real… Apple purchased Logic and it became a part of the Apple ecosystem. Apple purchased Beats by Dre and it became part of the Apple ecosystem. Protools falls under the “Avid” ecosystem. Avid has plenty to offer from their ecosystem. Logic still top tier.. my favorite DAW and probably the only one I could or would even try to do “everything” in. Production, mixing, mastering, atmos…. It does them all, I’d say, equally as well and it doesn’t do any of them badly enough to make me avoid using it.. so if I had to choose one, it would be Logic..
I love this podcast ❤
That FL update with stem separation 👀
FL just introduced stem separation, yall!
Exactly not to mention we getting a new VST named Kepler. Based off the 106.
Best Podcast 🔥
Appreciate u being a member
Copped that HMD when it was first advertised can’t imagine what the gold can do.
L.Jean bringing up Acid Pro. Wow. lol, never thought I’d hear that come up in the podcast.
pro tools does have gear that speficially works with pro tools [avid s- series consoles] but they dont work with other daws but they do work very well with the hdio's interface and xmon interfaces, yes this is only in over the top studio cases but its still an ecosystem that makes monitoring and seperate headphone mixes amazing, it makes the goal of engineering 10000x better
yepp, pro-tools definitely has an ecosystem. carbon, the old school HD ecosystem; hell even Mbox was the only low end interface that worked with pro-tools back in the day too so to me that is an ecosystem.
Yo; Devvon speaking straight facts!! As a Pro Tools user for 10+ yrs they don’t do a great job making the community aware of what’s available or accessible!! We do have to crossover hardware/software wise in order to be Great. But the DAW itself is INCREDIBLY flawless for Mix/Master.. Ain’t gon lie tho; y’all kinda forgetting about Akai as a prominent Ecosystem!! Great debate!!
Pro tools has carbon which is fully intergrated with pro tools. They also have playcell which has that snap to key function or mutes the notes outside of the scale or key of your song
Fl is a must go to combo 🎉
You guys should review the Xvox all in one vocal plugin from Nuro Audio
I dont think he'll do that. Hes trying to promote his plugin, the rosetta
Reason Gang 💪🏽💪🏽
My guy!!! @amajorkeys!!!!
@@graykeyzmusic Big Bro!!. you know it man
Magix Samplitude pro x8 suite and sequia from Magix also🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
I went from Logic Pro to Abelton about 3.5 yrs ago myself🤷🏾♂️
I understand avid not using MBox but back in day when MBox was big it was Digi design
show some love to reaper
I can't speak to what other DAWs have or don't have, but I know Cubase has A LOT to offer. Once I got more familiar with it, I realized how many 3rd party plugins I shouldn't have bought. 😂 It's all about personal choice though and generally, wherever you start, is usually where you stay. If it works for you, you winning.
I need a tutorial for mastering my beats for that thump and loudness in Reason or Protools please
The logic comment is true I just upgraded to a M2 Mac because of cpu and I use logic so yeah they got me in this ecosystem lol
The smile on Court face at the 34 min mark is priceless 😂
i love my logic but yes i have most of every DAW i use ableton live sometime i need to switch the workflow so i don't get stuck doing the same thing
I agree with LJ. If the eco system sucks meaning you can’t at least simultaneously pair, run,use, or switch between two or more items seamlessly… is it really an “ecosystem?”
Yoo shout to L.Jean for holding it down for maschine 💪🏽 ay you can use maschine in fl as a plug-in so you can use your mikro more integrated not sure how good it is
I live piano roll on Fl studio but dislike all the clicking for everything else. I love Ableton workflow but I don’t like their piano roll. Logic I think need a whole new redesign. Bitwiig feels too experimental. I like Studio One but I haven’t used it as much.
By far the best episode of the pod! Love the passion and the conversation. NGL, I'd love to spend an hour in LJ's mind lmfao, but he was spitting facts tho
Cubase 12 Pro has upgraded since Cubase SX, It has tools I need so far
Honestly if I can find a digi002 for my pro tools 10 set up I’d use it for my mobile set up
Hoppin and skippin through all of em. Prod sketching in Logic and FL, Mixing in Logic and PT and a little Studio One is the side chick
BRO STUDIO ONE BEEN HAVE THAT FL FEATURE ON THE PIANO ROLL
br to be honest there is always something missing in all the daws , i wish one day we will get all the daws combine in one
Audio Battle!! Do that ish!! I would that!!!
Awesome!!!
The ableton astronaut so cool haha
Ableton has snap to key in the piano roll in Live 11.
I’d love to represent cool edit pro in these rap battles!!!!
Snap to scale goes crazy. Game Changer
i know this is old, but AVID and Pro-Tools are an ecosystem. The MBOX was priority Pro-Tools forever ago when i was a kid, you had to have and avid interface to use pro-tools; it wouldn't let you use any other interface.
logic has that snap to key feature also for yearssssssss
The_Hack for Ableton by philspeiser really one of my favorite for Key Scaling.
Studio One just checking
I love how everything that they talk about being introduced has been in Cubase for YEARS and not as plugins or modules but integrated in Cubase Pro. I only remember 2 instances where Cubase wasnt first, warping when Abelton came out in 2001 (Cubase got it in '04) and ARA support which Studio One beat everybody to. If you want a real DAW that runs on mobile devices Cubasis is the only option. I just think Cubase has so much in it that its intimidating. But theres a reason that Steinberg products are #1 for scoring 🤷🏾♂️.
Fax, Cubase keeps on giving it really unmatched with alot of features, like not even close
Logic Pro been out on iPad for months bro
I've used both and so happy to have built a 14900k 64GB DDR5 RTX 4090 system and switched to Reaper
Courtney with that awesome shirt wit the rag🥶
Studio One has the best one... They have everything you need, and they can be used with other DAWs....
That apogee you guys wow ❤
Odee love
I hope NI helps with that Izotope Cpu draining issue. I'm not upgrading RX or Ozone until then.
I stopped using ozone for a minute, that kills off my pc man, it's depressing 🤣😂😂🤣
@@eartimevibes5994 So far, sonible has made a good impression. The compressor and smart limit are impressive. I’ll try out master plan next
Dis conva got yall on Fleek George burns 🔥
Finally some love for Akai😂😂
Audio rap battle let's go
Hahahaa I’m coming NYC 👀 Pro Tools Sketch out now… “L Jean makes a beat on Pro Tools” video coming soon 🎉
I feel a Ecosystem is if the products made by that company is designed to work smoothly together. Logic ecosystem systems is Mac and ipads.
I make beats in Ableton Live, and record/mix the "song" in Logic. Also, there is no Avid ecosystem. Devvon was acting like that cat that always has to be right.
Cubase is my Go 2 really..its just heaven for me..
+1
yall needa start every podcast with a freestyle
Logic gang all day.
LOVE THE SHOW- i would just say, devvon needs to give others space to talk as i felt he interrupted quite a bit of times😅
I got excited this shit is like sports to me my bad lmao 😂
Bro Logic been had dat Chord Jawn Sheeeeeeash