Retrocomputing, Amd k6-2+_550 vs k6-3_450 vs k6-2_500 w Geforce 256
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- Socket super 7, Amd k6-2+ 550mhz vs k6-3 450mhz vs k6-2 500mhz
Fsb 100mhz
Asus p5a-b rev 1.04, bios 1011.005 beta
128mb sdram pc133 cas 2,2,2 hynix 168pin
Asus v6600 32mb sdr, nvidia geforce 256
Creative sounblaster awe 64 gold
Samsung hdd 6,4gb
Windows 98se
Benchmarks
-3dmark99 Max
-3dmark2000
-Quake 3 arena
-Cinebench 2000
-Super_p
Ich finde den Vergleich sehr Interessant, bei der Sockel 7 Plattform habe ich damals bis zum K6-3+ 550 aufgerüstet. War damals eine sehr teure Angelegenheit. Das Mainboard war das gleiche und beim Arbeitsspeicher hatte ich Infineon Riegel mit 3x256MB. Die letzte Grafikkarte die in dem System lief war eine Voodoo5 5500 AGP gepaart mit einer Creative Sound Blaster Live Platinum. Die HDD war eine 4,3 GB Hitachi oder WD.
Very interesting comparison. The K6-3 450 manages to beat the K6-2+ 550 in gaming. This leads me to the conclusion that K6-3 400 is very similar in gaming to the K6-2+ 550. What ALI AGP chipset drivers did you used? Did you tweaked the AGP with the AGP utility?
thank you so much for this video
Good work. If i were you, i will use a more suitability graphics card: Asus V6600@GeForce 256 isn't the best choice for SS7 Platform. 3DFX is the way to go. These 3 CPUs are from the same architecture but with different clock speed. In my opinion will be better to set them with the same frequency. Anyway even in this situation L2 Cache shows his importance. K6-2 no integrated L2 Cache, K6-3 256kb L3 Cache, K6-2+ 128kb L2 Cache.
That WASNT THE FUCKING POINT OF THE TEST was it? Numnuts. It was to see the difference in speed between the vanilla CPU's.
Nice :) Some different drivers and settings will boost the performance :)
Currently building a K6-3 450 machine 🥰
Anything approaching memory intensive is going to run so much faster on the K6-2+ and K6-3 CPUs. (Super) Socket 7 was so darn memory bandwidth constrained. It was fine for the early SKUs, but as the frequencies started climbing, the FSB was a huge bottleneck. You were limited to a theoretical maximum of 800 MB/s over the FSB (64 bits (8 bytes) per clock at 100 MHz), but the CPU was capable of submitting a 64 bit read every CPU clock cycle (4 GB/s at 500 MHz). You'd never hit 4 GB/s at you're not just sitting there doing loads forever, but still, the cache was exceedingly important. The mere addition of the 128 KiB (K6-2+) or 256 KiB (K6-3) drastically improved performance even though the CPU core itself was unchanged.
3Dmark99 score should be higher, did you use ALi agp utility ?
No, only Ali agp driver and Nvidia driver. What score should I get with Ali agp utility?
@@satu5193 i don`t have the exact graphics card, but should be close enough(gf2mx400).
On my setup(k6-2+ @ 600mhz) i get around 3700 points in 3D99.
Use ALi agp utility 1.4 and set K6 EWBEC to 3.
I will try, thanks
О да, я помню эти миссии в Команче))
The K6-2 350 traumatized me into always getting fast CPU’s today.
Same here. Could not afford a better one back in the days. Was a slideshow sometimes.
Hahh, now I'm building a K6-3 570 to avenge those days
Detonator 7.52 is much better. That drivers (and earlier versions) were 3DNow! optimized. K6-2 500 with Geforce 2 MX had ~2600 points in 3DMark 2000 and ~40fps in Quake 3 timedemo 1.
Scores are way to low. Same FPS for the k6-2+ and K6-3 is not correct either.
If you are using Windows 98se, use the de default agp driver from Microsoft.
Also use a program to turn on the write allocation and write combining modes.
Use the earlist driver that you can get for the Geforce 256, you have to download these from other websites then Nvidia.
Turn off the L2 cache in the Bios for the k6-2+ and k6-3. The L2 cache on the k6-3 will still work.
My scores with voodoo 3-3000 agp. K6-2 550: 3647 k6-3+ 550: 4591
his results look about right i was getting around 2500 with a k-2 550
What benchmark are you talking about with the score 4591?
@@SkalabalaK6 3dmark99
@@gekkehenk1980 That is a good score, cant remember mine but with geforce and 3DMARK2000 best score is 5254
If anybody is watching, it actually is possible to get K6-2 on par with the + lines with tweak guides, especially the write allocation and write combining modes. They should be within 5% of each other in this case after tweaks are applied for K6-2.