AMD K6/2-450 Full Tower Custom Build /w 3DFX Graphics!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.ย. 2023
- We have the parts...Let's build a Custom PC!!! Let's go back to the late 90's and build a custom PC using the highly sought after AMD K6/2-450 Processor and the amazing Voodoo3 2000 card by 3DFX!! In this video we will build the PC from scratch, install an O/S and play some 90's games! Nostalgia at it's finest. Enjoy!
#nostalgia #retropc #vintage #amd #windows #custompc #custompcbuild #3dfx #voodoo
Referenced:
Phil's Computer Lab
www.philscomputerlab.com
The first pc I built was a AMD K6-200 with 16mb ram in 1995, I only had it two weeks before I sold it to a friend and built another one. I must have built hundreds of systems since then.
Those were the exciting days... Tech was changing so quickly!
A very beautiful early 1999 gaming PC.
Yes!!
Wow. This takes me back. It's my first computer.
Nothing like those nostalgic moments!
Many cases come with a nifty little "adapter" that has a star head and can be used to tighten standoffs. It's wise to tight them good as you don't want to unscrew them when swapping boards out.
For sure! Fortunately I have the correct driver.. But I wasn't aware tgat some cases came with the adapter.. Neat.
I really enjoy videos about vintage computers... I remember my first computer, 486 DX4, 16mb RAM, 640mb HDD, Graphics is a 2mb Trident 9660... I play Duke Nukem for a longggggg time!
Yes!!!!!
what a beautiful case🤩
It is!! Got it locally too!
Had a K6-2/350, then a k6-3/450! Fun times!
Definitely great memories!
it was my first PC ever (1996-7 with the same MB, AMD k6-2 500, and 32MB of ram..
Nice!!!
Wish i could remember the full specs of my first PC. It was the summer of '99 in Romania and my parents made a huge financial effort to buy it. I know it was an AMD K6-2-350, i think it had 32MB of RAM, some HDD, might have been 4GB, an ATi 2MB video card, a 14" display, have no idea what motherboard, sound card, speakers, case or PSU were. This video brought some Sunday afternoon nostalgia, thank you ! :)
You are welcome!!!! That's what this channel is all about :)
For memory sticks, you can clean the pins with a white STAEDTLER eraser and after with rubbing alcohol. Most times they work after. Keep up the good work. :)
Love the recommendation!!! Thank you!!!
God,I remember doing that so often. And brushing the sockets with alcohol. All the jank methods we used that worked so they seemed like magic to the people paying for the fixes.
Ahha if it works, it works!
Love it!
Thanks!!!
I love PC's from this era, This reminds me of an old tower we had that was first my dad's, then my grandma's, then went to my little sister. It started as a slot 1 celeron 400 with I think 64mb of ram, a SB clone ISA card, and a Matrox (either a Mystique or a Millennium)/Voodoo 2 combo running Win98. Later Upgraded to a PII 450, Maxed RAM at 384mb, and a SBlive PCI and Nvidia RivaTNT2 AGP (The old SB clone and Voodoo2 wouldn't play nice with XP). I think we finally retired it around 2006ish.
That's awesome!! I have almost this same build on the channel already! P2 450, Matrox G200, voodoo 2, etc. Go take a look!
built quite a few custom tower PCs in the late 90s - there was a store that was lined with motherboards, CPUs, graphics cards, cases, etc., etc. - was a wonderful store to go browsing and shopping with a supermarket style shopping cart.
Is very sad that that era of PC builds has faded and now is mostly gamers that do custom builds any longer, and now must order parts online instead of go shop for them in a bricks and mortar store. :-(
Agreed!!! I miss those days so much. My first memories of doing that was Business Depot (up in Canada) before they became Staples... It was so fun to walk up and down the aisles and dream haha. It also inspired other smaller stores to pop up around trying to do the same. It was such a great time :)
My first Mainboard but with 512 SDRam and k6-2 500 and Riva TNT2 32MB later ELSA GLADIAC GeFORCE2 MX with 64MB. Good old times.😊 Use this PC till 2003 lol and play alot of games at this time.
Nice!!! That config makes a great retro gaming system!
Another great vid!!.. man I have to find some time to get my Dell Dimension tower from 1998 up and running with my Voodoo card!
Thanks and yesssssss do it!!!
A well presented video and a tall but neat build!👍👍 I recall using Windows 98 se., on a Compaq desktop pc., and it worked fairly well, but it could be unstable at times and defragmenting the hard drive took a very long time even when it was done regularly, then I learned to use XP., and that was a vast improvement at the time even though it had it's glitches sometimes.
Thanks and for sure. All had their challenges but they often got worked out!
Love the new vid - it's computer building ASMR. 👍 Looks like you could use a front panel USB/card reader in one of the 5.25 slots.
That sounds like a great idea. I'm pretty sure I have a beige one somewhere.
Awesome build, nice work. Is a very nice machine for DOS and late 90's Windows games. 256MB DIMM probably too large to work reliably on that board though - that amount of memory would have been almost unheard of back in 98/99 for a regular PC! The missing devices are probably as you didn't add the VIA ChipSet drivers. Without those it probably doesn't have the driver for the AGP so the Voodoo is probably operating in PCI mode...
Great call out. I did in fact do the driver updates afterwards. As for the memory - yes, agreed in retrospect.
I still find it cool that the overall build process has not changed in 30 years :) Love watching this kind of thing! My game of choice back then was Diablo 2. I can only imagine playing it on this system! Mine was a Pentium 233MHz and 128MB EDO RAM.
These days I feel like spending so much time on figuring out how to cool the stuff, back then it was finding out what was even compatible. Had an AGP 1x/2x boards you couldn't just insert a 4x/8x card. Sometimes a drive wouldn't work, an IDE cable has no hole as key to put it in the right way but your motherboard has a pin there etc.
For sure! There are so many choices. I had a some other games lined up to test but time is always a factor :)
Yes, back then it was a bit simpler and it was always an adventure trying to figure out what your next configuration was with the hardware you had haha.
what has changed is that in the late 90s I could go to local stores to buy the parts to build custom PCs, but these days these stores have disappeared and instead have to order everything online :-(
And is sad few cases are still designed to accomodate drive bays - but I do enjoy that they all look better and have plexiglass side panels so can see the computer parts glowing inside - or install LED lighting kits for some bling pizzaz
@@TheSulross +1 on your comment, no idea where you live but I'm in the UK and there is next to no PC component shops to just walk into nowadays. It wasn't mega great back in the 90's but we did have PC World who were only interested in selling you a Packard Bell system (guilty as charged) but they did have some components, along with one or two other chain stores. Now we have nothing, it's all online shops but i think in the States there is MicroCenter at least.
I love the builds on channels like these, I often recreate them as close as possible in PCem, as I am doing now, as I watch this. :D
My first modern machine and my first fully custom new (Mostly) PC (Circa 1998) was an AMD-K6-2, 266 OCed@ 350MHz with 64MB RAM, 5.3GB WD HDD and a S3 Trio 64, Soundblaster 2.0 and Windows 95OSR2, good ol Tiger Direct. ( I convinced the secretary to allow me to borrow the Windows disk from the school, No 3D accelerator though as a High-school kid, PC built with my own money, I was pretty poor.)
Been an AMD guy ever since.:)
Windows 98 SE with the latest patches can and will support up to 1GB of RAM (Provided the board supports it), witch my Pentium III Talautin 1.2GHz with a Matrox G400/Dual-Voodoo2 12MBs run with this configuration just fine, played through several games on it flawlessly, when I first built it. (HL, Unreal, Quake II etc.)
Haha that's awesome!!! Build away, and get subscribed lol. Tiger Direct
.. Now there's a name I haven't heard in a while!!
I used to run my ide and floppy cables under the mother when they are long enough its a little difficult but looks cleaner and out of the way.
Great suggestion. I do plan on taking it apart for the IO shield installation. I may just get longer ide cables and try that out!
This look about right. Customer would come in and ask for a full height tower due to Computer Shopper saying the bigger tower you get. The more room for future upgrades. I'm pretty sure this started with at and moved into atx. I remember 2 floppies drives and 1 hard drive. You also had the joy of making cables too. Then the customer would come back in and wonder why they purchased such a large beast.
Haha so true!!!! I love this comment. I always wondered about getting one myself but I never did. After working on this, it's pretty cool, but today I have the ability to try a bunch of different configs.
Other than the gynormous case used in this build, I had built a very similar system back in the day.... I used 3Com coax network cards back then cause network hubs and switches were a little too pricy for a college student :)
Lol!!! I had the case and had to do some sore of build with it, or it was never going to be used. Soooo much room haha. Maybe a sleeper build could be moved into it due to the amount of space for airflow.
Very nice build Great Job. The K6 were awesome CPU`s for the price. I really like the case. if you can look for a small fan for the VooDoo3 they always run hot. Thank you for the Video
No problem, and great suggestion! I was thinking the two extra case fans will definitely make a difference!
Oh no you didn't! You are building a K6! It's my favorite CPU from back in the day. I want to do this so bad.
It really is a great build!!
For RAM sticks and expansion cards I clean the contacts with 2000 grit sand paper. I wet sand them then clean off with IPA. They are going to look like brand new.
At first this threw me, but the wet sand at the extremely fine grit makes sense. That and being extremely careful. Haha
@Karataus Try it on some junk hardware first. You hardly need any pressure at all. Auto parts stores usually carry it in their paint section. The finer the grit you use the better. Only a couple of passes may be necessary to do the job. It does remove a very small amount of copper but it's noting to worry about. Clean with IPA and let it dry for a bit just to make sure the PCB isn't wet. Some DeoxIT is also handy for cleaning out contacts, plus you don't have to wait for it to dry.
Nice build. I’ve never seen a floppy drive connector in that position on a motherboard before, I wonder if you could wrap the cable around the back of the motherboard to run it underneath it. I know there is a motherboard header right next to it but it might still be possible to help with cable management, you could probably do the same with the IDE cable for the optical drive. I used to put the windows setup files on the hard disk too but these days I keep them on a network drive.
Great suggestion. I'm definitely going to look at the cable management once the IO sheild is installed.
35:20 - I never had Q2 run that smooth back in my younger days! I've started looking for a cheap(er) copy on ebay, hopefully one will come up!
Yeah that 3dfx card is something else. Makes a world of difference for software written for it! To this day, I still don't have a big box copy of any quakes. I do have Hexen, and Unreal in box (amongst many other titles haha).
@@TheRetroRecall I only have a few big box games, half-life one and two an episode one (HF not Pod racer! but that’s on list too) and a few Call of Duty. I’m back-and-forth on eBay for a Final Fantasy VII trapezoid box. I already owned it on steam and have it modded out, but it kinda takes away from it a little bit because I perfer the pixelation :-)
My first computer, a Compaq Presario (dunno what model but the case was like the 5304) probably had a K6-2. Emphasis of probably cuz they also had an Intel Celeron version also. Shame I don't remember! Regardless this era of computing is severely nostalgic to me!
Exactly. This is exactly why I did this channel.
the mid to late 90s was an incredible golden age for doing custom computer builds from parts. Wa so empowering to be able to select all the indivudual parts - to optimize the e d assebly within whatever the budget was.
In my area I could go to local stores, push around a shopping cart, browsing and picking and choosing the parts I wanted for a build (did quite a few builds during these years)
Wish i had room for more computers in my home 😀
Hahah I have wayyyy too many and not enough space lol.
Same!
@@TheRetroRecall i have a pile of projects that i have postponed for about 20 years
Haha!! The definition of procrastination lol
@@TheRetroRecall Yup 😀
I tend to test the motherboard outside the case, at least for memory. That way I avoid cutting myself in those retro cases.
Haha! Smart. I've had my fair share of cuts.
Look up waaaayyy up. That's a big tower.
Haha yes!
I was waiting for Half life to be played on this pc.. Still a good "Retro" Video though.. Brought back some good memories while watching it.
Half life is now added to the list!
I can´t belive that somone used that PC in 2000 or 2002 my IBM Netvista PC with a P4, 2GB RAM, and 40 GB HDD, Runns Windows XP and tha PC have a ELSA Gloria DCC and that is also from 2001
There were so many configurations being built at the time during this tech race era haha. I was completely intel at this point but it was crazy to see that everytime you turned around there was something new.
Thanks for the upload a great video
Brings back some memories and seeing that case just reminded me of the huge tower I got my hands on it was massive it had the space to hold 8 CD Roms and upto 6 hard disks I picked it up as part payment for some repairs I was doing for a computer shop they wanted a load of Monitors repaired and this tower caught my eye said to the guy throw that in as part payment for the repair bill of the monitors
Sadly I couldn't find IDE cables long enough to reach the motherboard and place my CD ROM and CD burner at the top so drives had to sit low down kinda sucked
As for sound cards I was a big fan of the creative sound blasters the one I had ( forgot it's model ) had all the front panel stuff including remote
As for motherboards have had a few but do remember those socket 7 boards
Oh the good old days when computers didn't get so complicated and actually lasted the modern ones if today dint seem to last as long
Thanks! You are welcome! Yes, I always looked at these full sized towers back in the day however never did get my hands on one (mainly I didn't pursue it haha). I do know people who did have them and had similar stories of not being able to have both the data and power cables reach. Back then adapters, cables, etc cost a bit more than they do today (amazon, thrifting, etc).
The systems back then I found more exciting, you were always trying to tweak the system to try to get the most out of them. It was the wild west of computing and you never knew what new tech was coming out next!
Thanks again for watching - great to have you along!
Anyone that collects Masters of the Universe toys is automatically an awesome person that I want to talk to! 🙂
I have several unused I/O shields that might fit your motherboard, but I couldn't see the I/O layout to be certain. If you want, I can certainly send you one that matches if I can get a pic or layout.
Any chance you'll be at VCFMW this year?
Haha this is awesome!!! I will get a picture and send your way. Send me a note to youtube@bravtech.ca and I can reply. I wanted to but time isn't allowing it, however I am definitely going next year!!!
@@TheRetroRecall message sent.
Did you enable dma on hdd and cdrom? Once you do, it feels like you upgraded your CPU by couple of hundred megaherz higher one.
Also, enabling and using USB has very measurable effect on speed on such machines. At least during benchmarking, disable the USB completely in bios for best results.
I believe DMA is active but I will try your USB tip, thanks!
As cool as they are, I'll never understand why full tower cases held on for so long. They only ever made sense for servers, due to all the expansion bays & ability to accommodate large motherboards. I built a gaming PC in one once and in hindsight, was a huge waste of money, since my system only took up a fraction of the space & expansion. That system happened to be an AMD K6-2 300MHz w/ Voodoo Banshee, so this still was a nice dose of nostalgia. Cheers.
Awesome and agreed haha. Honestly I always wanted a tower like this but didn't. Now that it's built, I'm like why?? Hahaha.
in an era before NUCs and MacMini size desktop computers, towers made it possible to situate the computer under the desk - vs have a big box sitting up on the desktop
That was widely seen as a big advantage
And for those doing custom builds, we could be sure to have plenty of drive bays for all the media peripherals that we wanted to add
Great Windows 98 build! What features did Windows 98 SE have that the “standard” version of Windows 98 didn’t have?
winworldpc.com/product/windows-98/98-second-edition
Wikipedia - Windows 98 SE section
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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_98
@@TheRetroRecall Thanks for the link! That’s cool that it has USB support!
No problem! Sorry... Would have written more but I have a lot on the go right now haha! Quickly researched and those links made sense... High level comparisons :)
Unfortunately, I need a baby AT motherboard or something similar to installed on a baby at pc case but prices are really expensive. Ebay prices and shipping are to forget when it comes to shipping outside of US for example.
Yes, I find shipping out of control, especially since 2020. I try to source as local or at least in my own country as it avoids international shipping and customs. I tend to luck out from time to time.
Love the build. Any reason you chose an OG copy of W98 instead of 98SE? From memory, 98SE was faster, had a bit more compatibility, etc. Kinda like going from XP to XPSP2(and later sp3)
This was WIN98 SE. I even show it in the video after installation.
@@TheRetroRecall that must be my fault then. Must have looked away at that point. My bad!
Der Lautsprecher unten rechts im Gehäuse, früher waren die Dinge echt anders :-) mir hat so einer mal das halbe Gehäuse abgefackelt :-)
Over the years I found the case speaker would be located in many locations - I guess manufacturers placed it where it was convenient for them haha!
Let’s see some encarta 98 maze game 😊
Haha now that's an oldie!
I have the same case with Asus CUV4X-E, PIII@1GHz and Voodoo 5 5500. Does anyone knows the brand of that case?
Nice! I just checked the case out and there is no information on it at all.
Your voice is very similar to Clint from LGR
I guess that's a compliment? :)
make a memtest floppy. when you see an error in memory, just throw the stick in the garbage
Perfect. Will do!
What size is that driver you used for the standoffs
I believe it is a 3/16 nut driver.
@@TheRetroRecall was told standoffs are 5mm
Well 3/16" is 4.72mm (so 5mm) so that is probably correct.
K6 > anime girls
Haha.
True fact! It would be a great chip to prevent the creation of bloaty programs.
tower looks like an old server tower....i have a server tower with the amd 64 board agp 8x for my sapphire 3850....may use the quantum fireball 20gb drive to test drive it.
That's awesome and would be a nice build!
also the board is an a-bit@@TheRetroRecall
A bit? You mean Aopen?
Nope its a bit@@TheRetroRecall
It says Aopen right on the board lol
Like the case! And everything else! Just 256 MB RAM is too much for this. The K6-2 cannot cache it. With a K6-III it would be OK. Or maybe if the mobo would have 1M cache it would be OK too. But anyway 128 MB is more than enough.
Thanks and good to know!!! I will downgrade if that's the case.
No need to downgrade! Use xmsdisk to consume top part of the memory, which can not be cached, as ramdrive. ;)
Ok, awesome. I will check that out. Thanks again!
You’re killing me. After you boot with a floppy, the first thing you do is copy the 98 folder to the hard drive and install from there. 😅
I boot with the floppy then use the CD (E drive) , then after installed I copied the win98 folder over to C:\win98. It's just the process that I follow, but what your recommending could make sense :)
The idea is to copy win98 to hdd during floppy based dos session. Install itself will be a lot faster then. ;)
@@TheRetroRecall with some hardware, the second part of the Win98 installer wants the win98 files but the CD driver has not yet loaded, and it only shows a and c in the Drives box, then you're stuck a bit and have to cancel that. Back in the days I even had a PC where I got stuck in a loop then, had to start in DOS mode, load the CD drive's config.sys driver (which I had to copy from the Win98 floppy) and MSCDEX and copy the files to finish the install. Since then I agree with John, copying the files before the install is just a no-brainer for me.
Ahhhh. Yes I get that. Copy, then install from C. Ive always installed from the media... And used the win98 folder for future driver / OS requirements
Definitely good to know and I misunderstood his comment. I'm Totally clear now and will attempt that in the future.
wouldnt ati rage pro be more period correct graphics card, than 3dfx.
Possibly, however I wanted to put a 3dfx card in for this build. Video cards (as with most hardware at the time) is a very subjective choice :)
When are you *not* having issues with RAM? 😝
Hahaha right???!!! I'm going to have to rename the channel with something to do with ram lol.
3dfx cards arent cheap these days
I got mine years ago for 15$, I can't believe it myself nowadays.
You are right. I have a few, but only because I've been lucky.
Where's the mouse.
Not sure what you mean. It's not in frame?
zamzam water
Are you recommending water cooling... Or using pure water in a cleaning process?
hated AMD in day they always seemed to suffer with heat issues
Yes, I was of the same world hense why I lived in the world of intel.
@@TheRetroRecall im not a fan even today tbh 😂..
Lol