Actually they are both resonators in theory. These are not real mufflers maybe they have to legally call them that but they are resonators mid n rear. Mids are more quieter tho.
I only like the resonator delete with glass packs. The exhaust pulsates and without glass pack or resonator the air fuel mixture is off and sounds too lean at low rpms. I like it to sound like it has cams at idle as well. Its needs the ignition system that can give it extra voltage to the fuel pump so that it pops correctly like a Harley that runs both cylinders on the same firing cycle. It's a patented sound. It's the same difference as a Honda or a Yamaha vtwin. If I drove an 06 with aluminum valve seats I'd run 93 with lead substitute. Why? Because the hemi is a high compression engine. The 93 doesn't burn slower or cause carbon buildup. The 87 is for fords that you treat like read headed girlfriend. They're great. And reliable. But the srt is your read headed girlfriends, girlfriend. You take care of her
Everyone knows, that very few of us take care of our shit. Lead substitute was for when cars with aluminum valve seats. Now it took until 2017 to retire the pushrod. So stay living in the past. I have a bolt that flushes oil filter. I flush it every gas tank 2 or 3 times until oil is black to see through. And still change it at 3k miles. Why? Because I like to drive my shit like I stole it and it still runs 300k miles like a ford
I like all engines. Especially the 3 cylinder opposed piston engine Obama finally got Ford to build. It has 6 pistons. Makes more horsepower than 289 they put in mustangs for 5 decades. And gets 4 times mpg. Weights 1/3. And the hemis that seized up will still just need a day and some marvel mystery oil. When it short shifts and chirps tires with the tranny cooler and lower 180 thermostat you'll think that's precise shifting. Mark worman won't rebuild that garbage without drum brakes. Liz seyler and the 440 two speed no talent garbage and no talent garbage. Stay that wY
I did a mid muffler delete on mine and I absolutely love it. When you’re just doing standard driving it really isn’t that much different than stock, maybe just slightly louder but definitely not overbearing by any means. However, once you really get into the throttle it gets loud......really loud! Cold starts are significantly louder as well.
Cat delete, sounds cleaner and makes more power. I'd go that route. Now Dodge just needs to make a Hellcat Durango since I need a lot of space inside for my boys.
If I do a cat delete you think i would get inspection if a cop pulls me over? My car has 4 and I'm doing full straight pipe no cats no resonators, I want gains but also I don't wanna get a big ass ticket.. I live in Oregon
lmfscrew if he did it for power reasons he should get rid of the mufflers too so it’s less restrictive. Since it’s a forced induction engine the less restriction the better
@@nelagordon24 mufflers on a hellcat aren’t necessarily power restrictive. they’re designed to make it quieter for sure but with a performance car like a hellcat it’s not like they’re putting them on to lose power. plus mixing mufflers and catless/long tubes etc changes the pitch/tone of the sound, jus depends on how u like it. ur prolly losing out on 3-5 hp with the mufflers on bc they’re hellcat mufflers
But it’s a ford mopar all day brotha sorry that 5.0 modded compared to a hellcat ..... yea smh I’d take the hellcat I’d even take a 392 over a ford all day😂😂😂😂
This is from Summit Racing: “We do not recommend removing the Catalytic Converter from any street-driven vehicle. Running a cat-free exhaust is only recommended for closed-course competition vehicles. Why? First, it’s illegal to remove the cat from a vehicle that was originally equipped with one. The laws vary depending on where your vehicle is registered. Make sure you understand the rules in your area before making modifications. We will not pay your tickets or fines. Next, modern vehicles are tuned to run best with catalytic converters. Removing them can reduce your performance. You may also set off the “Check Engine” light and other trouble codes. At best, you will see little to no performance gains.”
@@pnw_hc People always do that. "I did this or that, didn't make more power so it must not work." Yeah, because when you increase airflow and/or fuel flow in some way, you have to tune for it. Stock EFI can only self tune/correct for so much, most of the time you need a custom tune.
Typically I like cat deletes, but on the challenger it makes it sound like a sickly car I hear like a slight hiss sound from it. The muffler and res delete sounds more rich and louder and no hiss sound either.
Does the car stink with the cat delete? My 03 mustang has cat delete it’s loud but stinks. If u can get that sound without cat delete I think that’s the better option.
I'm curious if you have an x-pype on Dad's toy. I have a 6.4 with a mid-muffler, and rear silencer delete, and it's not as loud as yours, but itt is pretty loud, sounds nice. Just deeper. I think due to the x-pype. I use to have a 5.7, with the same set up as I have now, rear silencer and mid muffler delete, and it was louder than my 6.4. again the 5.7 did not have an x-pype. ... My next mod is going to be a valve delete on my 6.4. I'm hoping it will kick it up a notch without being way to loud. Hoping it will be perfect.
I have a question, so if you were to remove your cats and miss, would that equal more power and be more loud as well?? I will be getting a hellcat soon and I'm trying to figure which to delete from it. Need help deciding
In this case yes but not always. The one with cat delete is quieter and most likely has better gas mileage and horsepower. The catalytic converters job is to filter out toxins and by doing that it restricts airflow more than a muffler does. So the muffler delete not only does less but in some cases it can actually lower horsepower because of not enough back pressure
It's illegal everywhere to remove properly functioning catalytic converters on 1970+ cars. That doesn't stop anyone who does the exhaust work themselves from home though. However, if you live in CA or NY where emissions laws are the strictest in the entire US, you'll most likely never find a public shop that will chop your cats off.
All you gotta do is remove the cats your self and than drive it to the shop and have them weld on pipe. Can get it done that way, because by law they can not remove them, but if you remove them and take it to them to weld in pipe, problem solved.
As they should it illegal. That being said the only way you will get it done is to do it yourself, get someone else to do it, or know the mechanic and get thrm to do it as a favor off thr books. No shop in thier right mind will write a work order for this job!!!
With government cracking down on green energy blah blah bs, I definitely wouldn't be placing my license plate to the car that has the cats deleted its a federal offense and with this video your friend can now get a felony on his record way to go champ. Don't bother deleting the video. The internet already has it 🤦♂️
The red one sounded better.
WHICH ONE BOTH ARE RED
exactly......they both sound good...
The challenger was way better.
All Gas No Brakes they r both red but the cat delete sounds better
The hellcat sounds better
FYI the mufflers are what is under the car and the resonators are what are at the bumper.
Correct. On this car. On many other cars the resonators are under the car and the mufflers are in the back
Thank you.
physically what is the difference between resonators and mufflers? thought they were essentially the same thing?
Actually they are both resonators in theory. These are not real mufflers maybe they have to legally call them that but they are resonators mid n rear. Mids are more quieter tho.
My resonators are right after the cat
Mid muffler delete is the way to go for better sound. Did it to my Daytona 392 aswell. Good comparison!
yep i totally agree!
Agreed. Did the same to my scat
I only like the resonator delete with glass packs. The exhaust pulsates and without glass pack or resonator the air fuel mixture is off and sounds too lean at low rpms. I like it to sound like it has cams at idle as well. Its needs the ignition system that can give it extra voltage to the fuel pump so that it pops correctly like a Harley that runs both cylinders on the same firing cycle. It's a patented sound. It's the same difference as a Honda or a Yamaha vtwin.
If I drove an 06 with aluminum valve seats I'd run 93 with lead substitute. Why? Because the hemi is a high compression engine. The 93 doesn't burn slower or cause carbon buildup. The 87 is for fords that you treat like read headed girlfriend. They're great. And reliable.
But the srt is your read headed girlfriends, girlfriend. You take care of her
Everyone knows, that very few of us take care of our shit. Lead substitute was for when cars with aluminum valve seats. Now it took until 2017 to retire the pushrod. So stay living in the past.
I have a bolt that flushes oil filter. I flush it every gas tank 2 or 3 times until oil is black to see through. And still change it at 3k miles.
Why? Because I like to drive my shit like I stole it and it still runs 300k miles like a ford
I like all engines. Especially the 3 cylinder opposed piston engine Obama finally got Ford to build. It has 6 pistons. Makes more horsepower than 289 they put in mustangs for 5 decades. And gets 4 times mpg. Weights 1/3.
And the hemis that seized up will still just need a day and some marvel mystery oil.
When it short shifts and chirps tires with the tranny cooler and lower 180 thermostat you'll think that's precise shifting.
Mark worman won't rebuild that garbage without drum brakes.
Liz seyler and the 440 two speed no talent garbage and no talent garbage.
Stay that wY
I did a mid muffler delete on mine and I absolutely love it. When you’re just doing standard driving it really isn’t that much different than stock, maybe just slightly louder but definitely not overbearing by any means. However, once you really get into the throttle it gets loud......really loud! Cold starts are significantly louder as well.
thanks this was what i needed to hear i been thinking bout removing jus my muffler for a lil more fun
try a straight pipe to evil energy on an inline 4 haha! quiet at idle but f***ing loud at wot
Cat delete, sounds cleaner and makes more power. I'd go that route.
Now Dodge just needs to make a Hellcat Durango since I need a lot of space inside for my boys.
Just get a Hellcat Charger and have them fight for a seat. Loser takes the bus or rides in mom's Prius.
snakesonaplane2 They Did
Why can't they ride in a Jeep Trackhawk
If I do a cat delete you think i would get inspection if a cop pulls me over? My car has 4 and I'm doing full straight pipe no cats no resonators, I want gains but also I don't wanna get a big ass ticket.. I live in Oregon
@@541_CoyotePower same bro I live in Oregon I wanna straight pipe and cat delete my 3000gt but don't want any legal trouble.
why cat delete and then leave the mufflers on? get rid of all that shit
Because he deleted the cats for the power and didn't want it really loud.
Thats exactly what I was thinking!
lmfscrew if he did it for power reasons he should get rid of the mufflers too so it’s less restrictive. Since it’s a forced induction engine the less restriction the better
Thank you
@@nelagordon24 mufflers on a hellcat aren’t necessarily power restrictive. they’re designed to make it quieter for sure but with a performance car like a hellcat it’s not like they’re putting them on to lose power. plus mixing mufflers and catless/long tubes etc changes the pitch/tone of the sound, jus depends on how u like it. ur prolly losing out on 3-5 hp with the mufflers on bc they’re hellcat mufflers
dadstoy sounds better
561 ncs haha
But it’s a ford mopar all day brotha sorry that 5.0 modded compared to a hellcat ..... yea smh I’d take the hellcat I’d even take a 392 over a ford all day😂😂😂😂
They both sound like they have a garbage bag stuck in the pipe
#FACTS
You only think that cause your too deaf to hear the other one 🤣
Mid muffler sounds WAYYYYY better. The mid tones, as well as the bass is just BOOMIN!!!!
Wow you are the truck channel I always watch too......... wow you have all the toys!
Definitely catless! Much cleaner and more pronounced sound. Mid muffler is good but there is too much crisp to it.
This is from Summit Racing: “We do not recommend removing the Catalytic Converter from any street-driven vehicle. Running a cat-free exhaust is only recommended for closed-course competition vehicles.
Why?
First, it’s illegal to remove the cat from a vehicle that was originally equipped with one. The laws vary depending on where your vehicle is registered. Make sure you understand the rules in your area before making modifications. We will not pay your tickets or fines.
Next, modern vehicles are tuned to run best with catalytic converters. Removing them can reduce your performance. You may also set off the “Check Engine” light and other trouble codes. At best, you will see little to no performance gains.”
@@jogmas12 everything is true accept for the performance part, remember that opinions are opinions and facts are facts
@@jogmas12 you need to be tuned to pick up performance and eliminate engine lights
@@pnw_hc People always do that. "I did this or that, didn't make more power so it must not work." Yeah, because when you increase airflow and/or fuel flow in some way, you have to tune for it. Stock EFI can only self tune/correct for so much, most of the time you need a custom tune.
@@jogmas12 Oh wait, we give a shit?
Man my word, the cat delete sounds so freakin sick, 🙏😁😁
Active exhaust eliminates the drone, even with the muffler delete.
Cat delete sounds better because it has more of a muscle sound to it👌
Deeper ,Bass sound 😃
Typically I like cat deletes, but on the challenger it makes it sound like a sickly car I hear like a slight hiss sound from it. The muffler and res delete sounds more rich and louder and no hiss sound either.
love the sound of this car. I'm a Camaro dude but I like the muscle in these.
Dayum!! They both sound good!
Dadstoy is a monster.
2:15 for cat delete start
2:38 for mid muffler delete start
I had to go back and compare lol
FYI... the mufflers are located amid ship {in the middle} and the resonators are located aft {far back} .
wrong. Mufflers are at the back.
Just imagine it with no cats or resignators
Would be straight NASCAR loud lol
resignators 😂🤣
@@halfred8011 WOW
@@chachiluv4085 I didnt say it haha
@@halfred8011 that's why I love the comments
god that mid muffler delete is amazing
Without stripes for sure
@Pharoah Monk I think hes voting for DadsToy
Hands down, mid muffler delete sounds better. Getting my Redeye done next month.
The mid resonator knocks out the high frequency stuff. The first car is louder but sounds better, imo.
this helped out a lot, I want my shitty ass Fiesta louder, but not too loud, so gonna go with the cat delete
DADSTOY For The Win
How do you bypass the o2 sensors when deleting the cats?
With a spark plug non-foulers ,works great
Those are some nice hellboats
Everyone's ear is different . I prefer the cat delete sound way better. I find the mid muffler delete too raspy and crackly . Not my cup of tea .
Them some Bad ass hellcats! Nice mods!
I am IN LOVE 😍😍
Great video
Thanks!
Damn I want that plate say when!
Cat Delete all day, even though he's an Alabama fan
Does the car stink with the cat delete? My 03 mustang has cat delete it’s loud but stinks. If u can get that sound without cat delete I think that’s the better option.
I'm curious if you have an x-pype on Dad's toy. I have a 6.4 with a mid-muffler, and rear silencer delete, and it's not as loud as yours, but itt is pretty loud, sounds nice. Just deeper. I think due to the x-pype. I use to have a 5.7, with the same set up as I have now, rear silencer and mid muffler delete, and it was louder than my 6.4. again the 5.7 did not have an x-pype. ... My next mod is going to be a valve delete on my 6.4. I'm hoping it will kick it up a notch without being way to loud. Hoping it will be perfect.
Why did you shoot the video in two different places ?
And How does the one with no cats sound so quiet ....🤔
Wow, mid mufler delete sounds twice as good, not only is it louder but has a way better note, nice.
Dads toy goes crazyy
Dobt get me wrong but I loved the red one more than the other one
Echo actually makes a big difference on the sound
When removing the cats does it cause a smell?
Yes smells like good pussy
@@angrycustomers2211 😂😂😂
Dadstoy sounds good af should also delete the cats 👀
Is that your garage or living Room ? 🔥 cars
Dadstoy with headphones👂🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶 sounds fucking awesome
Those cars were running before I can hear hot metal ticking when he climbs under the cars lmao
It's this crazy thing where you go back and film the intro after you film the second part of the video. Editing is crazy.
The hemi sounds better ;-)
They both have hemi engines
@@2ValveMiri my point exactly
Where in Alabama did you get the muffler delete?
I have a '15 Grand Cherokee SRT and I'm thinking of deleting the cats.. Will that throw a check engine light?
Kat with the strip is definitely louder in my speakers. Beautiful cars man, y'all on IG?
dayummmm dadstoy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I just bought a 3 inch straight pipe from the cats back it’s gonna be loud
Dad's toy sounds like a demon actually should sound
Dadstoy is way louder and sounds the best
Dadstoy sounds a LOT better
I agree
Is it possible if you can get a cat delete, muffler delete and resonator delete?
Yes you can
thank you
Can u do a recording inside the car to see how that sounds
Why not just do a cat delete and mid muffler delete on both aye
brother got two hellcats :O
Do a cat and mid muffler delete on the same car
Mid muffler delete just sounds better.
Would cat delete effected your emission testing ?
RSS DEFENSE CORP yes
🙄
Guys don’t hate me for this but I think the red one with the black rims sounds better
Left one sounds best but they are nice cars ?
!!!
The one with the exhaust sounds way better
They both have exhaust
dads toy sounds a lot better. muffler delete sounds better on hellcats than it does on mustangs
If you’re taking ur cats off remove mid muffler sounds stock
So cat delete and muffler?
So which one is faster?
If i did a cat delete will i need to tune it
Skip to 2:16
ok guys be honest, who thought the red one would be louder?
@imfcrew Which car do you think drives the best?
Cat delete drones badly
The red with the black wheels sound better
Nice floors free mason
the red and black
which tires are on Dadstoy?
305/35/19 mickey thompson street radials
@@lmfscrew no those are 20's not 19's.
Is that crickets or some sweeping the floor in the background? Dads toy sounds better,great vid to help me decide on the excauast on my Ram.
Those are probably "cicadas".
Dads toy😍😍
Not going to lie I think the mid muffler sounds better
left muffler delete
right cat delete
2 hellcats while I’m trying to get my 2019 rt Charger smh I’m
Poor as fuck smh
Saywhn would sound better with a mid muffler delete on top of the cat delete then you will have yourself a monster
I have a question, so if you were to remove your cats and miss, would that equal more power and be more loud as well?? I will be getting a hellcat soon and I'm trying to figure which to delete from it. Need help deciding
Yes it would be extremely loud with the cats and mids removed.
Szuper Hellcat ☺☺☺☺👍👊👌👑✌Hungary☺☺☺☺
What do you for a living??!!
The resi delete at idle sounds like my ass after taco bell
"side by side comparison" the fact bro has 2
By taking out the cats you can lose power unless you tune the ECU because the O2 sensor will be like WTF
The car was tuned for it.
Where is cat delete?
Left or right?
The louder the more gas?
In this case yes but not always. The one with cat delete is quieter and most likely has better gas mileage and horsepower. The catalytic converters job is to filter out toxins and by doing that it restricts airflow more than a muffler does. So the muffler delete not only does less but in some cases it can actually lower horsepower because of not enough back pressure
Why cat delete sound like a diesel
Dads toy sounds a hellva lot better and it’s totally stock.
DadsToy is LOUDER 2 ME
The fact that he doesn’t know which muffler is what really bothers me
Sorry I'm not a hellcat muffler/resonator expert lmao
I requested a muffler shop to delete my cats on my 2014 Challenger RT Redline ed. 5.7 and they said "no way jose!"
Jerk Jiggler Probably because it would destroy the warranty
Did that because the are not allowed to bypass emissions specs they could get sued for that.
It's illegal everywhere to remove properly functioning catalytic converters on 1970+ cars. That doesn't stop anyone who does the exhaust work themselves from home though. However, if you live in CA or NY where emissions laws are the strictest in the entire US, you'll most likely never find a public shop that will chop your cats off.
All you gotta do is remove the cats your self and than drive it to the shop and have them weld on pipe. Can get it done that way, because by law they can not remove them, but if you remove them and take it to them to weld in pipe, problem solved.
As they should it illegal. That being said the only way you will get it done is to do it yourself, get someone else to do it, or know the mechanic and get thrm to do it as a favor off thr books. No shop in thier right mind will write a work order for this job!!!
Did you notice any difference in horsepower on any of these cars?
Mid muffler delete is purely sound. Cat delete def nets you a fair amount of hp because that is tune required.
you wouldn't notice any hp changes with a muffler/cat delete. It's mostly for sound.
Dadstoy is a fucking beast
With government cracking down on green energy blah blah bs, I definitely wouldn't be placing my license plate to the car that has the cats deleted its a federal offense and with this video your friend can now get a felony on his record way to go champ. Don't bother deleting the video. The internet already has it 🤦♂️