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- Reaction to Franz Liszt Spanish Rhapsody - Traum Piano
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A lot of people criticize Liszt for his "fluff" (octaves, trills, jumps, etc.). Honestly, if they knew how fun it is to play crazy stuff like that, they probably wouldn't be trash talking him. Anyways, Liszt still had some of the best musical moments in his pieces, and the difficult techniques are usually what make them so unique and powerful.
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Liszt was with no doubt absolutely gifted. He assisted at a première of a Rossini opera then after he went to Rossini's place and played him part of his opera and Rossini called him a devil. He also perform the 5th Beethoven concerto with 9 fingers. Played a concerto (don't remember which one) after one hearing only. He could improvise on anything. Chopin was so upset on how easily Liszt played his études. He sight read grieg piano concerto while commenting it and was also famous to read during practicing (crazy). You should read a biography on him, there's so much anecdote like those. There's also a testimony of Frédéric Lamont you can find talking about Liszt when he met him
In this video the player plays the rhapsody with only 9 fingers
@@eliplayer2122 he uses the injured finger, I think it's just more uncomfortable.
Liszt was never arrogant and the piano pieces he composed after he retired as a pianist in 1847, were mainly intended for his students. This piece was dedicated to the Empress of France.
I love how Liszt has some pieces that are so calming and beautiful (like you saw on stream with benediction de dieu dans la solitude), then he has the super virtuosic and hard stuff too. I think it’s cool to have that balance as a composer. For this piece it has both imo.
Ayyyy finally my fav Liszt piece!😊
Cactus 🤤
@acactus
Have you learned this one as well? Hope you are doing well.
It's not only my most favorite Liszt piece but my most favorite Encore piece.😉
@@Traumfanblueheron I am releasing a video soon about me trying to sightread it 💀💀💀
@@acactus2190
YT really didn't like my reply to you 😕. Got deleted twice!
Anyway, good luck with the sight reading. It sure is a beautiful piece.
Another epic piece by Hungarian maestro Liszt! The theme starting around 2:15 is one of the oldest western melodies found, called La Folia. Vivaldi also used it in his piece by the same name
Edit: Also the theme starting 6:07 is called Jota Aragonesa I think, Liszt used this in his Spanish Fantasy and Romancero Espagnol too.
Liszt also i think wrote an earlier and harder version called the 'Spanish Fantasy',that's just for short because the actual name of the piece is Grosse Konzertfantasie über Spanische Weisen
Yeah he wrote three Spanish pieces, this the Spanish fantasy and Spanish romance. All of which are easily top tear in Liszt difficulty rep
Yes Spanish Fantasy is superb as well as this Spanish rhapsody
Liszt was one of my first favourite composers (now it's Mozart). This was my second favourite Liszt piece after Mephisto waltz no. 1
Thank god you're enjoying this as much as we are.
Who wouldn't?!
Liszt was a bit of a show off and his concerts often sounded like an early beatles concert after he finished. Girls were reportedly passing out and throwing themselves at him just by listening to how he played. That being said, he was WILDLY talented. Some of his pieces are some of the hardest to perform in the piano repertoire and he would perform them with grace during his concerts. He was one of the most gifted pianists to ever perform. However, he definitely knew how to use those big hands and big skills to get some ladies!
Traum Piano is great!
You should check out Liszt’s Dante Sonata (I see you’ve done the Dante Symphony already). One of my favourites. PS: Liszt is a genius not just for his composition or playing but because he fundamentally changed how solo piano was seen in society and elevated it to a place it had not been before
I love this rhapsody, and Traum is awesome! Still, for this specific piece I highly recommend the (live) recording of Tiffany Poon, it's incredible.
I think there is the story that Liszt sight read Islamey in front of Balakirev and played it without mistakes.
I read that he played it by ear
liszt was the MOST talented composer ever (along with paganini) , i guess that the best video (kind of like a biography) explaining liszt would be this one th-cam.com/video/4yeL4MkBLSc/w-d-xo.html
Charles-Valentin Alkan is a god amongst the pianist too! Liszt described him as the pianist that has the finest technique in the world in his opinion
If you want something super emotional, I would listen to Samuel Barber's Adagio for Strings (specifically the recording by Leonard Bernstein)! It makes me tear up anytime.
Also Liszt is crazy, his skill on piano was incredible. I wish I could play like that :(
Liszt is undoubtedly the best pianist of his time. And probably the best of all time. He sight read chopin op 10 etudes after which chopin said that he wishes he could rob him [liszt] of the way he played piano.
Liszt sight read Chopin's op. 10 no. 1 at tempo, which would take incredible technical skill, but isn't much more than arpeggios up and down when it comes to sight reading. By the next day, though, he had all of the etudes memorized.
actually sir as u mentioned in the last... actually liszt was not arrogant and show off person yea he was known as a big handy liszt and had his style of entertaining but mostly he was called to be not soo musical and just skilled pianist-composer cuz he used sooo much effects domination into the pieces but as long as u listen more and more of his compositions yea i also admit he likes making different effects on same themes but he could also write a nice melody... so liszt was not a person who just shows up cuz there was no need of that XD 😅😅😅
you need to react to Shostakovich waltz no 2, and Kassia's playing a great piano arrangement of it.
That was beautiful
Kassia didn’t arrange this piece.
@@Dylonely42 I meant kassia playing it, it was arranged by Noack, but you can find it by typing kassia
@@Dylonely42 fair enough
@@giovannib27 Thank you, you’re a good person.
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React to liszts mazeppa Étude please it’s ridiculously hard
You should react to Rachmaninoff rhapsody on a theme of Paganini played by Nikolai Lugansky.
This should come eventually, I’m planning to use my member request for it
can you react to rach piano concerto 4 ? its the only one the you havent reaction yet
Suggest GIDI react to Chopin 4 impromptus, you can make 4 videos for them
@@Alix777. How about Beethoven sonatas?
:)
8:50 There's probably way more than one documentary about Liszt, and theres a chance a movie has been made too. Liszt was one of the most (if not, arguably, THE most) talented and skilled piano player in history. He could play anything at any given speed, he could transcribe any big orchestral work for piano and still make it feel natural and legit. He wasnt as talented as a composer, even though he was still revolutionary and gave way to harmonical darings, especially influencing Wagner. But he owed a lot to Berlioz and Beethoven as a composer, even if he was never as great at orchestrating as them. He's not really a melodist, in fact his piano music mostly consists of repeating patterns (at insane speed), rhythmic games and scales, flashy tricks and trills in the right places, and most of his melodies are borrowed from other composers or folk songs. So to end it, he wasn't the greatest or most original composer, but he was probably the best pianist to ever walk on earth
Doing a guiness world record of the most misleading in one post?
"owed a lot to Belioz and Beethoven" is just your entitle to that.
"He's not really a melodist, in fact his piano music mostly consists of repeating patterns (at insane speed), rhythmic games and scales, flashy tricks and trills in the right places" You also entitle to that. You probably see this a lot but I will say it again. You dont even listen to 5% of Liszt music so stop generalizing out of your 1-3 piece that you have listen, or even worse, belive because someone on the internet said that.
"most of his melodies are borrowed from other composers or folk songs" you are also entitle to that. As I said, stop generalizing. And borrowing melody and idea, are you talking about every composer ever? They have done that except the different is Liszt tell that where did he get that from but other composer dont. And some piece Liszt transcribe them to promote their work. Dont use nowadays mindset to judge in that period.
"he wasn't the greatest or most original composer" is just you entitled to your opinion due to your lack of knowledge of Liszt.
@@BBB-hi4hc Aaaaaaa someone's butthurt I didn't say their favourite composer is the best composer in the universe!! And how convenient, all my opinions were "entitled" except the one you like, that he was the best pianist ever, right??
Yes, as a composer Liszt owed a lot to Beethoven and Berlioz, they were his 2 favourite composers, Berlioz for the way he revolutionized romantic music and orchestration, Beethoven because he's Beethoven and every pianist in the romantic period was heavily influenced by him. What's so "entitled" about that?? You can read that in every Liszt's biography, and I suggest you to do so! Like I suggest you to listen to his whole output like I did, and then you will be able to tell most of his piano music (not all of it) consists of virtuosity tricks. There's nothing wrong with that, just like what Paganini had started doing with the violin a few years before him. Paganini too, was never a great composer, but one of the 3-4 best violinists in history. But I bet I can be entitled to this "opinion" (which is just a well-known truth in the field, like with Liszt) on him cause who cares about Paganini, he's not your favourite composer!
Yea, Liszt wasn't really a tunesmith, and only sometimes he came up with his own melodies. Most of his piano output is based on a theme by someone else, transcriptions of other people's pieces, the rhapsodies are all written on themes from folk songs and so on. This doesn't mean he was copying everyone and that he wasn't original, as you said a lot of composers would do that, but i dont consider them the most original! Mozart mostly didnt do that, Beethoven mostly didn't do that, Chopin almost never did that, Brahms would do that more often instead, Bartòk did that too, Dvorak as well. So? Some people are just better melodists, some other are better at harmonizing, and some, like Liszt, are very good at transcribing existing pieces and turn them into impossible virtuosic piano pieces. That's a skill too, i'm not taking anything off him. But, he was never famous as the composer of beautiful melodies, like Mozart or Tchaikovsky can be. Liszt was always mostly famous for his crazy virtuosic piano playing and deservedly so.
And, none of these are really my entitled "opinions". You just have to pick up any of the thousands of biographies on Liszt.
Have a good one!
@@fedegwagwa I agree with all you said, but here you're talking about the piano pieces, which are clearly, to any piano player, merely virtuosic pieces for the most part, and he obviously meant to write them as such. But what about when he retired from his virtuoso tours? He started composing orchestral pieces that are way more "original" than his piano pieces. Doesn't that make him a great composer?
@@brbdonk6785 First of all, I never said he's not a great composer!! He really is one of the great romantics!! I only said that he's not regarded as THE greatest composer, and there's more than just one reason to that.
Until the age of 35 he was just a virtuoso piano player, that would write and rearrange phenomenally difficult pieces for his tours. He had conducted orchestras a few times, but his experience as a composer and conductor were very limited at that point. In fact, when he accepted the job as Kapellmeister in Weimar, his "assistant" Joachim Raff taught him a good deal about composing and helped Liszt developing his composing skills, especially orchestrating many piano pieces by Liszt and literally showing him "how its done". Liszt would later draw from these Raff's orchestrations to write his symphonic poems, so much so that up until a few years ago (when it was finally proven only partially true, like I explained) it was believed that Raff was behind the orchestration of every Liszt's orchestral piece!
Most of Liszt's orchestral music, like his piano music, relies on bold dramatic gestures that barely follow a very free form. He invented the medium of the "symphonic poem", even though it was very resembling of the older "overture" form, but in a more poetic and utterly romantic way. Like many other romantic composers before and after him, he was starting to break up with the traditional forms and rules of music: often the movements are incomplete, going into the next without any musical "warning"; the traditional classic "development" of themes is replaced by Liszt with looser assemble of themes that repeat and get transformed. This transformation of themes is central to Liszt's music and to his influence on later composers, such as Strauss or Wagner. This wasn't a very "new" technique tho, Mozart and Beethoven were very keen on relating different themes, to make a longer work feel 'united'. Or, the biggest influence to Liszt in this sense, Schubert's Wanderer fantasy, is a bold example of linked themes that transform each other, and Liszt loved it so much that he re-arranged it for piano and orchestra.
So to end it: Liszt's original orchestration, even if bold and effective, often relies on relatively simple applications of melody-and-accompaniment, together with block chordal writing, that always feels like transcribed piano music. Its rarely as complex as Brahms or as rich-sounding as Wagner, but it has many moments of beauty (like in the Faust symphony). Liszt also had a limited sense of harmony, using the standard repertoire of "advanced" harmonies of his day, only sometimes to a daring extent. But he often repeats the most obvious drammatic effects, he particularly loves the diminshed seventh for example, a chord that is effectively mysterious and terrifying, but which, if used too frequently, loses its effect.
But, no matter if you like his grand effects or not (that's just a matter of taste), he was undoubtedly a great romantic spirit, had the highest aspirations in music, and even his failures are impressive Romantic gestures
@@fedegwagwa Damn man I thought you were just being a hater and wanted to call you out for that but you obviously know your stuff...and after looking up all you said, I humbly admit I learnt something today. Peace bro!
Could you react to the hungarian genius pianist Ervin Nyiregyhazi?
Liszt hatte und hat nicht nur Bewunderer, das gilt sicher für alle Künstler aber bei Liszt ist es besonders schlimm. Zu viele Musiker und Liebhaber Klassischer Musik werfen ihm Oberflächlichkeit und Effekthascherei vor, doch kein Geringerer als Maurice Ravel hat über ihn gesagt: "Welche Mängel in Liszts ganzem Werk sind uns denn so wichtig? Sind nicht genügend Stärken in dem tumultuösen, siedenden, ungeheuren und großartigen Chaos musikalischer Materie, aus dem mehrere Generationen berühmter Komponisten schöpften?" Ich stimme dem natürlich zu.
Ich kann dieses Zitat von Ravel online nicht finden. Kannst du die quelle zeigen?
@@kasajizo8963 Ich habe es tatsächlich auf der deutschen Wikipediaseite über Franz Liszt gefunden unter der Kategorie "Urteile von Zeitgenossen". Dort stehen auch Zitate von Schumann und Wagner über Liszt.
Tbh I think Liszt went threw a lot too be able too make such complicated music and now u get too see the past threw his music. Also his practice strategy was very extra and unnecessary.