Great video, Personally I was struggling with the same dilemma, but After a few test rides and more research…. I decided to go with the trek Roscoe 7 …. And so far no regrets!! to me it was the better choice 👍
should have been here a few months earlier there are far many better options than these too better spec better geoometry for less money, i can show you
What is better geometry for you? Don't think there's a perfect geo that works everywhere. Just published a review of a Canyon Stoic if you're interested.
Thanks for this video. I got myself a mint condition used Specialized Fuse Comp Fattie with 27,5x3.0 Tire Setup and a 130 or 140mm Fox 36 suspension. for 400€
I bought it, but I bought the wrong size and took some of the parts off, upgraded tons of other parts and then ended up actually getting the Roscoe frame! in the right size so definitely a little bit of a course there but I end up figuring it out. It was my introduction into the sport so it was a lot of fun building and learning about everything.
You are undecided if you should go with the Roscoe 7 or 8 bc of the 35 mm fork? So the 7 has a better fork? What is wrong with the 35 mm fork? I'm asking bc I'm completely ignorant on this subject. I missed the Specialized bike sale when they sold the Fuse Comp for 1.5k
Basically because of the fork which is the most important thing on a bike imo. The Recon is only 32 mm which I think will be too flexy on a bike of this caliber. It's a XC fork. Depends on where you intend to ride of course. I also favor Deore over NX and half a kilo of lower weight on the 8.
Because of the bike supply issues in 2020, I ended up with the Roscoe 8 and believe it or not, I am still happy with my purchase. My only complaint will be whenever I decide to upgrade the wheelset due to the Boost 141 QR Trek decided to put on that frame. I wanted to originally buy the 2020 Fuse Expert, but because of budget constraints and Specialize's need to overprice their bikes compared to other brands, it was a no go. I have made several upgrades over the last 20 months of ownership, wider 780mm bar, shorter 40mm stem, and Rockshox Revelation 120mm fork (It was a really good deal)
If you're happy with the bike it sounds like a great buy! Upgrading the bike to your liking is part of the joy, I too have a hartail which is beyond recognition by now! 😂
Nice vid. I've been considering a Fuse Expert and Stumpy Comp carbon. As you mentioned, the Stumpy isn't that much more than the Fuse so it's probably worth it to pay a lil more. The Fuse is an awesome looking hardtail though. If I got the Fuse, I'd put on some red Ergon grips and some other red parts on the bike to make it pop.
One thing that should not be overlooked on the Roscoe 9 is the Fox Rhythm 36 fork, which is a significant upgrade over the RockShox forks on the 7 and 8.
I was looking at exactly this sort of bike in late 2020. The 2021 Fuse was overpriced and 7 month backlog and the Trek was still the old model back then. I settled on a Norco Fluid HT and installed a nice 130mm fork to replace the standard 120mm. With 130mm fork, the Norco's geometry is now identical to the Fuse in 95% of all measurements. I'm happy.
I am glad you are happy with your Norco, seems like a great bike (and brand)! There are a few options out there now: Nukeproof Scout, Merida Big Trail, Canyon Stoic and the new Rockrider AM 100 to name a few.
@@MTBs Thank you. I actually looked at many of those and simply could not get one in late 2020 unless I was prepared to wait almost 8 months. Crazy times.
I know I’m reviving and old thread but I am paralysed by all the information and am afraid I will buy the incorrect sized bike again.. I am 182cm with short legs - 81cm inseam and longer torso, do you think the Fuse in L would be a good option?
Great Review! My partner owns a 2020 Trek Roscoe 7. Great bike for price to take on rugged terrain like green and blue trails. But always thought if it had 29 wheels and the head angle was slacker it would be a great alternative to a the entry level Trek Fuel Ex 5 full suspension. But now with the 2022 Roscoes with 29 wheel, 65 degree head angle and 13kg weight, thats nearly as good as my 2019 Trek Slash 8 Enduro! Will definitely upgrade her Roscoe now. Thanks for the review
Yes, a great bike but still a trail bike and not as "enduro" as the Slash (which is a stunning bike BTW). You might want to have a look at the new Top Fuel too which has also gotten a lot more capable from 2022.
Picked up a poverty spec Fuse for $1100 in the US. 1x9, spring fork, 30.9 dropper in a 34.9 seat tube, no adjustable rear axle. With a GX groupset, BB, XD freehub, 150mm dropper, I'm still under $2k for a very nice spec build. Had a 140mm Recon fork laying around. Otherwise, it would be another $300 for the fork. Still a far cry from the exorbitant Covid prices.
Vore det sjukt att köpa en TREK R9 som första cykel, för att slippa behöva uppgradera den öht? För om du köper en 7a - hur lång tid skulle det tänkas ta innan man uppgraderat till en 9a och då lika gärna hade kunnat köpa en 9a direkt?
Nja, en tumregel är ju att köpa rätt cykel från början eftersom det alltid/oftast blir dyrare att uppgradera i efterhand. Problemet är väl att du kanske inte från början vet om du skulle uppgraderat? Men om det är din första cykel så är det nog mer troligt att du byter till en FS snarare än att du lägger en förmögenhet på att uppgradera en HT.
@@MTBs Så är det såklart, onödigt att lägga pengar på För bra saker som man inte kan nyttja. Men om man vill ha något som man både kan köra xc, lite pump track, och inte för blodiga trails, så känns en HT rätt. En FS kanske rent av blir dålig om man ska ut och köra lite xc som fysträning? Sen är ju typ alla "guider" här på TH-cam antingen fr USA eller GB och de cyklarna finns ju ofta inte på svenska marknaden. Det vore nice med typ en lista med de bästa/vettigaste HT's för den svenska marknaden. Typ - hur mycket "bör" man lägga för att få en vettig HT? Hur mycket ska man inte lägga och hur lite ska man inte lägga, så man inte köper skit? Skulle du kunna tipsa om tre vettiga HT som man kan behålla flera år framöver, som varken behövs uppgraderas redan år 2 eller som inte är för mycket, för dyra etc..?
Hello igen. Har inte kört så många ht att jag känner att jag kan rekommendera de 3 bästa. Tror du får bättre svar på happyride.se. Många verkar gilla Orbea Laufey. Väljer du H10 så lär du inte behöva uppgradera ngt mer. Fokusera annars på bra gaffel. Bromsar o drivlina är egentligen skit samma till en gräns.
Both brands have bikes on sale today, so I would check out the best deal first. Nice bikes both of them, I would go for the Fuse for more regular trail riding and the Roscoe for more chunk and occasional bike park visits.
@@MTBs any chance I give you a list of 5 I'm trying to choose from and you help me decide? it's my first bike and the stress and anxiety of choosing is overwhelming. I'm 6' 3" 240lbs. Mostly trail riding but will look for some small jumps, berms etc. I think I've narrowed down to 5 bikes in the $1500-2k range
@@MTBs so of the bigger names (due to shops in the area for service) would be between Specialize Fuse Comp 29 and Trek Roscoe 8. But I've also been looking at Rocky Mountain Growler, Canyon Stoic, Comenca Meta HT.. I just want a bike that I won't have to fix, repair or upgrade off the jump but room for upgrades later. Thru axle is a must!
@@MTBs at my size, and what I plan on using the bike for.. can I get away with a high end Marlin, or Polygon Xtrada 7, high end Rockhopper, and the rest of the $1k bikes?
@@MTBs Thanks. Been looking for a new Hardtail and never seen the fuse in the last 2- 3 months. So the game of patience continues :) Take care and thanks for the content.
Thanks! There are other similar bikes than the Fuse if you can't find any. I think there has been quite a few alternatives mentioned here in this comment section.
@@MTBs Yeah for sure. But the alternatives have a pretty bad dealer network in my area. There are alot of great bikes Nukeproof Scout, Orbea Laufey, Canyon Stoic. The scott dealer is just 10km away which is a huge plus in my book
@@MTBs yes, apart from very easy terrain with lot’s of climbing (where a gravel probably would do better) I’ve nerver seen the purpose of a HT in the woods (at least not now days). Sure, if you’r on a tight budget, but for the kind of money we are talking about here, FS feels like the obvious choice.
@@MYnextDIYbikePROJECT Well, the geometry is there and they can be pretty fun at the right places. But I am too comfortable to be bounced around if I take the wrong line or end up in terrain that is too rough. For me a FS is more versatile.
I picked up a Roscoe 8 and absolutely love it.I have purchased Specialized bikes for years, this is my first Trek. I was able to get it for under $2000 in 2023. Being more of a Clydesdale sized rider, the Fox 35 provides me a more stable experience up front. I also like the rapid drive rear hub.
Really good review 👍 ive got a whyte 909 v4 and older 2014 whyte 905 , both great bikes but looking for my first 29er hardtail (all my bikes 27.5😅) which i can still use in me local area but bung on some faster wheels and turn into a faster bikepack for multiday adventures . I think the Fuse Comp looks better from watch your review ,though Roscoe does look good too. I was going to get a Chisel but a Fuse looks a better all rounder with its slacker geometry . Now to see if Trek ,Canyon or other brands can beat a Fuse but the Fuse has a good length wheelbase 1188 which i prefer 🤔. Cheers :)
@@MTBs I've had a quick look around today and not noticed any new specialized models . I did go onto Trek website today and they have a new 2024 procaliber 8 aluminium with 120mm fork which looks very appealing for a multiday road trail bikepack bike , that looks very attempting , though sounds like i should wait a bit for next round of specialized to come out 🙂 thanks
The 2024 Chisel is now a lightweight FS bike. I haven't seen it in the flesh, but it's like a budget version of the Epic I recon. The upcoming Fuse will probably be very costly once it is launched, but there might be good deals on the current Fuse because of the new model.
@@MTBs ok thanks ,not though about a FS ,the new chisel frame looks good , will pop down bike shops next few weeks and try them out see which ones feel best 🙂
Great video! Exactly what I needed to see! Have been considering the Fuse for a while but due to availability (or lack of!) started looking at alternatives, the Roscoe being one. Think I’ll continue the hunt for a Fuse as the riding position of the Roscoe looked a bit funky although I’m shorter than you (180cm) and prefer larger bikes. Got plenty of time to decide though as can’t find either at the moment lol!!
Point is, they are VERY similar bikes. I used to get hung up on head angles, but I don't anymore since it is the complete package that counts. It really comes down to what is available (and money after all). At the top end of the range the Roscoe wins because of spec, you will appreciate a Fox 36 over a 34. But if going mullet is important to you - the Fuse is your option. Cheers!
@@MTBs I"m curious why the fuse would be better for going mullet. I'm heavily considering the Roscoe 8 (and Fuse Comp) but I definitely want the option to put a 27.5 in the back because I'm pretty short
@@sadcat520 The higher tier Fuses have an adjustable chainstay, which means that they can be shortened when using a smaller rear wheel. The base Fuse has got a fixed chainstay though. (This was 2 years ago and things might have changed)
Before covid I was on a mission to get a Specialized Fuse. Ended up with a Nukeproof Scout. Now I want a Trek Roscoe 8. What's wrong with me? Aloha. 😎🤙
I am assuming you mean the Roscoe. I am 185 cm tall and the L didn't feel too big at all, almost the opposite when sitting down but I prefer larger bikes. It is always difficult to advice about size since we are all shaped differently and have different preferences, so you should really test for yourself. But I would go for L if I was going to say anything. Cheers!
Awesome, yes the roscoe thanks for the reply, I was thinking the same although the only one available to me right now is the M/L, the L is still on order and who knows how far out it is. Wondering if i should give up the extra reach and go for the slightly smaller one. The terrain i ride is 50/50 some fast straight sections but also a fair amount of technical sections and lots of XC style uphill tracks. Unfortunately the bike shops are far enough away that I am unable to test ride. Would you say the size difference between the two is significant enough to wait for the large? The M/L is only 150mm shorter reach.
@@bulkleyoutdoors Again, it is about personal preference I would say. It is not unridable and you can adjust saddle and get a longer stem too if needed. At the same time you are spot on a size L according to Trek and it would be a shame to buy a bike that's too short then and regret it later? Sorry, but I cannot advice you to go with the smaller size...
@@MTBs that works for me! I agree, it is a lot of money to spend on something if there is any chance I will regret it, I will take all the advice I can get. Thank you.
I reckon you should include the Big Trail range in this comparison. For Value, the Merida knocks both of these out of the park, and the frame is solid and compliant. - who do you think makes the Fuse frame? it's Merida :)
Hi Marc! Yes I know that Merida owns Specialized, that's why you cannot find Merida in North America. Would love to test the Big Trail, but it is very difficult for me as a small TH-camr to get a hold of bikes to test.
It went together easily in less than an hour. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
These bikes are sold in bike shops and should come fully assembled and adjusted. But if you should buy a bike online I made a video about assembly here: th-cam.com/video/_za0EX2L8Xc/w-d-xo.html Tools for assembly is usually only a set of allen keys and a couple of torx keys too which usually is found in basic allen key sets for bikes. Pretty easy t b h.
All of the RockShox forks here are awful for both brands, the 35 Gold is the same MSRP as the Bomber Z2 but not even in the same league. A Roscoe 7 with a plan to upgrade the fork is the best value.
LOL for 99 percent of people out there these forks are more than enough, I am sure you yourself would not even ride that fork to its full potential. Everyone these days wants the best without even understanding why they need this. Comments like yours make me think of you as a bad bad rider who simply sucks and complains every time he goes out on a trail. LMAO. You are probably one of those with a 5k double suspension bike I pass by on a 2k hardtail on a double black diamond with a $300 awful RockShox fork.
Ill always Pick Specialized. Maybe interms of Build quality i saw alot of Broken Trek Alloy Frame. Thats why in every bike big brand trek is my Least Favorite From Spez, Giant, Cannondale, Santa Cruz etc.. trek will always be my Last option
It's greed running industry. They crank prices up because idiots pay them 🤷🏻♂️ Average rider can't fix a flat tire not to mention maintenance. Instead of looking for something on 2nd hand market they just go and buy new
I have the Roscoe 7 here in Canada. Given the price of bikes in 2023, it is probably the best option for someone who doesn't want to spend too much.
Same, I bought a pair for my GF and me and we love them. Since we both needed one, it wasn’t terrible price-wise
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Nice one thanks mate, my R9 is due in the next couple of months can't wait to pick it up!
You're in for a treat! 👍
Bro, the image overlay to compare the geometry was the dream!!!! Yes!!!! Subscribed kablam
Thank you!
But I have learned that you cannot draw any conclusions from images alone, they might not be accurate.
Great video, Personally I was struggling with the same dilemma, but After a few test rides and more research…. I decided to go with the trek Roscoe 7 ….
And so far no regrets!! to me it was the better choice 👍
A great complement to your Z06! 💪
should have been here a few months earlier there are far many better options than these too better spec better geoometry for less money, i can show you
What is better geometry for you? Don't think there's a perfect geo that works everywhere.
Just published a review of a Canyon Stoic if you're interested.
Thanks for this video. I got myself a mint condition used Specialized Fuse Comp Fattie with 27,5x3.0 Tire Setup and a 130 or 140mm Fox 36 suspension. for 400€
What a deal!
I just bought a 2023 Roscoe 8….. incredible bike buy it! 🤙🏻
Just brought home a 22 fuse comp 29 today, it's a great bike so far!
Yay! 🤟
I bought it, but I bought the wrong size and took some of the parts off, upgraded tons of other parts and then ended up actually getting the Roscoe frame! in the right size so definitely a little bit of a course there but I end up figuring it out. It was my introduction into the sport so it was a lot of fun building and learning about everything.
Would love to get my mittens on a Roscoe 9.. Unfortunately unavailable everywhere!
Annoying, I know!
I ordered one, it's coming in July of 2023 lol
i just ordered a 9 they said 2mo.
Review on the 2022 kona kahuna vs the honzo base plez
I doubt that I will be able to test those bikes, but I will put them on my bucket list!
very good comparison. Very neat, thank you.
Awesome video! The Specialized Fuse is a hardtail i really considered as recently as last year
You are undecided if you should go with the Roscoe 7 or 8 bc of the 35 mm fork? So the 7 has a better fork? What is wrong with the 35 mm fork? I'm asking bc I'm completely ignorant on this subject. I missed the Specialized bike sale when they sold the Fuse Comp for 1.5k
Basically because of the fork which is the most important thing on a bike imo. The Recon is only 32 mm which I think will be too flexy on a bike of this caliber. It's a XC fork. Depends on where you intend to ride of course.
I also favor Deore over NX and half a kilo of lower weight on the 8.
The Roscoe 8 has a better hub with more engagement, the same as the 9. The 7 does not have that hub.
Because of the bike supply issues in 2020, I ended up with the Roscoe 8 and believe it or not, I am still happy with my purchase. My only complaint will be whenever I decide to upgrade the wheelset due to the Boost 141 QR Trek decided to put on that frame. I wanted to originally buy the 2020 Fuse Expert, but because of budget constraints and Specialize's need to overprice their bikes compared to other brands, it was a no go.
I have made several upgrades over the last 20 months of ownership, wider 780mm bar, shorter 40mm stem, and Rockshox Revelation 120mm fork (It was a really good deal)
If you're happy with the bike it sounds like a great buy!
Upgrading the bike to your liking is part of the joy, I too have a hartail which is beyond recognition by now! 😂
You can upgrade the rear hub with DT swiss 350 (148×12) plus conversion endcaps 142@135 QR HWGXXX0001528S
@@rogeliopitti7120 Thanks, that gives me another option besides Hope Pro 4 hubs. I will look into them
Nice vid. I've been considering a Fuse Expert and Stumpy Comp carbon. As you mentioned, the Stumpy isn't that much more than the Fuse so it's probably worth it to pay a lil more. The Fuse is an awesome looking hardtail though. If I got the Fuse, I'd put on some red Ergon grips and some other red parts on the bike to make it pop.
I think it is great with some competition from Trek. That will hopefully bring the prices of the Fuse to more realistic levels.
One thing that should not be overlooked on the Roscoe 9 is the Fox Rhythm 36 fork, which is a significant upgrade over the RockShox forks on the 7 and 8.
Absolutely! At a price though.
Great comparison video.
Nu kostar ju en R9 under 20,000 kr - är inte det väldigt prisvärt?
Jodå, lite mer rimligt tycker jag. Bra ram o hyggliga komponenter.
I was looking at exactly this sort of bike in late 2020. The 2021 Fuse was overpriced and 7 month backlog and the Trek was still the old model back then. I settled on a Norco Fluid HT and installed a nice 130mm fork to replace the standard 120mm. With 130mm fork, the Norco's geometry is now identical to the Fuse in 95% of all measurements. I'm happy.
I am glad you are happy with your Norco, seems like a great bike (and brand)!
There are a few options out there now: Nukeproof Scout, Merida Big Trail, Canyon Stoic and the new Rockrider AM 100 to name a few.
@@MTBs Thank you. I actually looked at many of those and simply could not get one in late 2020 unless I was prepared to wait almost 8 months. Crazy times.
I know I’m reviving and old thread but I am paralysed by all the information and am afraid I will buy the incorrect sized bike again.. I am 182cm with short legs - 81cm inseam and longer torso, do you think the Fuse in L would be a good option?
Sorry, this was over 3 years ago and I only tested size large. Best to test in the shop.
Great Review! My partner owns a 2020 Trek Roscoe 7. Great bike for price to take on rugged terrain like green and blue trails. But always thought if it had 29 wheels and the head angle was slacker it would be a great alternative to a the entry level Trek Fuel Ex 5 full suspension. But now with the 2022 Roscoes with 29 wheel, 65 degree head angle and 13kg weight, thats nearly as good as my 2019 Trek Slash 8 Enduro! Will definitely upgrade her Roscoe now. Thanks for the review
Yes, a great bike but still a trail bike and not as "enduro" as the Slash (which is a stunning bike BTW). You might want to have a look at the new Top Fuel too which has also gotten a lot more capable from 2022.
Picked up a poverty spec Fuse for $1100 in the US. 1x9, spring fork, 30.9 dropper in a 34.9 seat tube, no adjustable rear axle. With a GX groupset, BB, XD freehub, 150mm dropper, I'm still under $2k for a very nice spec build. Had a 140mm Recon fork laying around. Otherwise, it would be another $300 for the fork. Still a far cry from the exorbitant Covid prices.
That's one way to do it! 👍
Is that a 27.5 inch bike then?
@@MTBs Yup. That's I went with it. Everything is 29" nowadays.
What’s a better bang for the buck? The rosco or fuse
That was kind of what the video was about! 😂
You need to find a deal on a Fuse to match a Roscoe.
What do you think about the 2022 Fathom 29 1? I’m undecided between the rosocoeband the giant.
Sorry mate, I haven't had the pleasure to ride that bike. But sure, there are many ni nice hardtails out there other than the Roscoe.
Vore det sjukt att köpa en TREK R9 som första cykel, för att slippa behöva uppgradera den öht? För om du köper en 7a - hur lång tid skulle det tänkas ta innan man uppgraderat till en 9a och då lika gärna hade kunnat köpa en 9a direkt?
Nja, en tumregel är ju att köpa rätt cykel från början eftersom det alltid/oftast blir dyrare att uppgradera i efterhand. Problemet är väl att du kanske inte från början vet om du skulle uppgraderat?
Men om det är din första cykel så är det nog mer troligt att du byter till en FS snarare än att du lägger en förmögenhet på att uppgradera en HT.
@@MTBs Så är det såklart, onödigt att lägga pengar på För bra saker som man inte kan nyttja. Men om man vill ha något som man både kan köra xc, lite pump track, och inte för blodiga trails, så känns en HT rätt. En FS kanske rent av blir dålig om man ska ut och köra lite xc som fysträning?
Sen är ju typ alla "guider" här på TH-cam antingen fr USA eller GB och de cyklarna finns ju ofta inte på svenska marknaden. Det vore nice med typ en lista med de bästa/vettigaste HT's för den svenska marknaden. Typ - hur mycket "bör" man lägga för att få en vettig HT? Hur mycket ska man inte lägga och hur lite ska man inte lägga, så man inte köper skit?
Skulle du kunna tipsa om tre vettiga HT som man kan behålla flera år framöver, som varken behövs uppgraderas redan år 2 eller som inte är för mycket, för dyra etc..?
Hello igen.
Har inte kört så många ht att jag känner att jag kan rekommendera de 3 bästa. Tror du får bättre svar på happyride.se. Många verkar gilla Orbea Laufey. Väljer du H10 så lär du inte behöva uppgradera ngt mer.
Fokusera annars på bra gaffel. Bromsar o drivlina är egentligen skit samma till en gräns.
Here in 2023, would you take the Fuse 29 Comp or Roscoe 8?
Both brands have bikes on sale today, so I would check out the best deal first. Nice bikes both of them, I would go for the Fuse for more regular trail riding and the Roscoe for more chunk and occasional bike park visits.
@@MTBs any chance I give you a list of 5 I'm trying to choose from and you help me decide? it's my first bike and the stress and anxiety of choosing is overwhelming. I'm 6' 3" 240lbs. Mostly trail riding but will look for some small jumps, berms etc. I think I've narrowed down to 5 bikes in the $1500-2k range
Sure! I can give it a try at least.
@@MTBs so of the bigger names (due to shops in the area for service) would be between Specialize Fuse Comp 29 and Trek Roscoe 8. But I've also been looking at Rocky Mountain Growler, Canyon Stoic, Comenca Meta HT.. I just want a bike that I won't have to fix, repair or upgrade off the jump but room for upgrades later. Thru axle is a must!
@@MTBs at my size, and what I plan on using the bike for.. can I get away with a high end Marlin, or Polygon Xtrada 7, high end Rockhopper, and the rest of the $1k bikes?
Is the Specialized Fuse discontinued for 2023?
I can't find it on their homepage
I don't think it is discontinued. You probably have to wait a few more weeks until they show up.
@@MTBs Thanks. Been looking for a new Hardtail and never seen the fuse in the last 2- 3 months.
So the game of patience continues :)
Take care and thanks for the content.
Thanks!
There are other similar bikes than the Fuse if you can't find any. I think there has been quite a few alternatives mentioned here in this comment section.
@@MTBs Yeah for sure. But the alternatives have a pretty bad dealer network in my area. There are alot of great bikes Nukeproof Scout, Orbea Laufey, Canyon Stoic.
The scott dealer is just 10km away which is a huge plus in my book
Would you, in this price range buy a HT or would you go for a FS?
Over 3000€? Full susp every day! That would buy me a bike that would be fun in a bike park too.
@@MTBs yes, apart from very easy terrain with lot’s of climbing (where a gravel probably would do better) I’ve nerver seen the purpose of a HT in the woods (at least not now days). Sure, if you’r on a tight budget, but for the kind of money we are talking about here, FS feels like the obvious choice.
@@MYnextDIYbikePROJECT Well, the geometry is there and they can be pretty fun at the right places. But I am too comfortable to be bounced around if I take the wrong line or end up in terrain that is too rough. For me a FS is more versatile.
@@MYnextDIYbikePROJECT"I’ve nerver seen the purpose of a HT in the woods" .... this is a supid, comment!
@@kihealthandwellness I mean he explained his point far better than you so I'd say it's your comment that's far more stupid.
Get the Roscoe 9
If youre like me youre just gonna upgrade it so may as well start out where you want to be at
Can you make a review on the Salsa Rangefinder?
Would love to, but it's so hard to find demo bikes.
I picked up a Roscoe 8 and absolutely love it.I have purchased Specialized bikes for years, this is my first Trek. I was able to get it for under $2000 in 2023. Being more of a Clydesdale sized rider, the Fox 35 provides me a more stable experience up front. I also like the rapid drive rear hub.
Nice! And that's a really good price for the bike too. Congrats!
Really good review 👍 ive got a whyte 909 v4 and older 2014 whyte 905 , both great bikes but looking for my first 29er hardtail (all my bikes 27.5😅) which i can still use in me local area but bung on some faster wheels and turn into a faster bikepack for multiday adventures . I think the Fuse Comp looks better from watch your review ,though Roscoe does look good too. I was going to get a Chisel but a Fuse looks a better all rounder with its slacker geometry . Now to see if Trek ,Canyon or other brands can beat a Fuse but the Fuse has a good length wheelbase 1188 which i prefer 🤔. Cheers :)
I think there is a new Chisel out now, right? And I strongly suspect Specialized will launch a new Fuse shortly as well.
@@MTBs I've had a quick look around today and not noticed any new specialized models . I did go onto Trek website today and they have a new 2024 procaliber 8 aluminium with 120mm fork which looks very appealing for a multiday road trail bikepack bike , that looks very attempting , though sounds like i should wait a bit for next round of specialized to come out 🙂 thanks
The 2024 Chisel is now a lightweight FS bike. I haven't seen it in the flesh, but it's like a budget version of the Epic I recon. The upcoming Fuse will probably be very costly once it is launched, but there might be good deals on the current Fuse because of the new model.
@@MTBs ok thanks ,not though about a FS ,the new chisel frame looks good , will pop down bike shops next few weeks and try them out see which ones feel best 🙂
Great video! Exactly what I needed to see! Have been considering the Fuse for a while but due to availability (or lack of!) started looking at alternatives, the Roscoe being one. Think I’ll continue the hunt for a Fuse as the riding position of the Roscoe looked a bit funky although I’m shorter than you (180cm) and prefer larger bikes. Got plenty of time to decide though as can’t find either at the moment lol!!
Thank you!
I honestly think the bike was one size too small for me. Test for yourself, we all have different body shapes.
Good luck!
@@MTBs how tall are you? You're on a large and don't look super tall or anything, so I'd imagine you're on the right size.
I'm 185 cm/6.1 feet. I think I might be in between sizes on the Roscoe. A large works, but maybe a XL would suit me better.
Putting aside money, which one do you feel rode better overall?
Point is, they are VERY similar bikes. I used to get hung up on head angles, but I don't anymore since it is the complete package that counts.
It really comes down to what is available (and money after all). At the top end of the range the Roscoe wins because of spec, you will appreciate a Fox 36 over a 34. But if going mullet is important to you - the Fuse is your option.
Cheers!
@@MTBs I"m curious why the fuse would be better for going mullet. I'm heavily considering the Roscoe 8 (and Fuse Comp) but I definitely want the option to put a 27.5 in the back because I'm pretty short
@@sadcat520 The higher tier Fuses have an adjustable chainstay, which means that they can be shortened when using a smaller rear wheel. The base Fuse has got a fixed chainstay though. (This was 2 years ago and things might have changed)
Before covid I was on a mission to get a Specialized Fuse. Ended up with a Nukeproof Scout. Now I want a Trek Roscoe 8. What's wrong with me? Aloha. 😎🤙
It's a perfectly normal post-covid symptom. I see it everywhere. 😉
I have a 2020 fuse expert. It was $2100. Not sure why the prices sky rocketed.
Supply and demand, probably. You are lucky that you bought your bike at the right time! 👍
You should do this again but add the nuke proof mega and canyon stoic
I might get a hold of a Stoic at some point at least.
You meant Scout and Stoic
How tall are you? Did the large feel small to you or on the bigger side? Im 182cm trying to decide between M/L and L,
Awesome vid, thanks
I am assuming you mean the Roscoe. I am 185 cm tall and the L didn't feel too big at all, almost the opposite when sitting down but I prefer larger bikes.
It is always difficult to advice about size since we are all shaped differently and have different preferences, so you should really test for yourself. But I would go for L if I was going to say anything.
Cheers!
Awesome, yes the roscoe thanks for the reply, I was thinking the same although the only one available to me right now is the M/L, the L is still on order and who knows how far out it is. Wondering if i should give up the extra reach and go for the slightly smaller one. The terrain i ride is 50/50 some fast straight sections but also a fair amount of technical sections and lots of XC style uphill tracks. Unfortunately the bike shops are far enough away that I am unable to test ride. Would you say the size difference between the two is significant enough to wait for the large? The M/L is only 150mm shorter reach.
Sorry only 15mm shorter reach**
@@bulkleyoutdoors Again, it is about personal preference I would say. It is not unridable and you can adjust saddle and get a longer stem too if needed.
At the same time you are spot on a size L according to Trek and it would be a shame to buy a bike that's too short then and regret it later? Sorry, but I cannot advice you to go with the smaller size...
@@MTBs that works for me! I agree, it is a lot of money to spend on something if there is any chance I will regret it, I will take all the advice I can get. Thank you.
I reckon you should include the Big Trail range in this comparison. For Value, the Merida knocks both of these out of the park, and the frame is solid and compliant. - who do you think makes the Fuse frame? it's Merida :)
Hi Marc!
Yes I know that Merida owns Specialized, that's why you cannot find Merida in North America. Would love to test the Big Trail, but it is very difficult for me as a small TH-camr to get a hold of bikes to test.
Would you consider a 2022 giant fathom 2 27.5 or a 2022 giant stance 27.5 for a 60% off road and 40% street use in total?
Hi! Sorry, haven't ridden any Giant.
Roscoe 6 2022, do you mean the X-Caliber 6? B) Lots of guys have no idea Roscoe comes from a former XC bike.
Hi there!
No, I mean that the Roscoe 6 has the old frame carried over from the previous model of the Roscoe.
Good review
I ordered the trek
Good call! 👌
It went together easily in less than an hour. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
These bikes are sold in bike shops and should come fully assembled and adjusted. But if you should buy a bike online I made a video about assembly here: th-cam.com/video/_za0EX2L8Xc/w-d-xo.html
Tools for assembly is usually only a set of allen keys and a couple of torx keys too which usually is found in basic allen key sets for bikes. Pretty easy t b h.
😮Specialized fuse or chisel..... What's the better choice??????????
2 rather different bikes. Trail vs XC. Depends on where you intend to ride I guess.
I think giant fathom is also really good bike specially for price
Agreed, it looks nice!
All of the RockShox forks here are awful for both brands, the 35 Gold is the same MSRP as the Bomber Z2 but not even in the same league. A Roscoe 7 with a plan to upgrade the fork is the best value.
Have to agree, they are budget forks. Don't think they are too awful though, just budget.
LOL for 99 percent of people out there these forks are more than enough, I am sure you yourself would not even ride that fork to its full potential. Everyone these days wants the best without even understanding why they need this. Comments like yours make me think of you as a bad bad rider who simply sucks and complains every time he goes out on a trail. LMAO. You are probably one of those with a 5k double suspension bike I pass by on a 2k hardtail on a double black diamond with a $300 awful RockShox fork.
Ill always Pick Specialized.
Maybe interms of Build quality i saw alot of Broken Trek Alloy Frame.
Thats why in every bike big brand trek is my Least Favorite
From
Spez, Giant, Cannondale, Santa Cruz etc.. trek will always be my Last option
Love Specialized frames too, but I haven't really heard anything bad about Trek alloy frames. Certainly this bike seems to be well put together.
Roscoe 8 has hi engagement hub I wouldn’t buy the 7.
Olaf looks like Jamie Oliver's kid brother.
Good looks is what matters on youtube. 😉
Trek reduced prices 21% June 2023. Still expensive but yen also weak so less wtf. No 9 in Japan.
It's greed running industry. They crank prices up because idiots pay them 🤷🏻♂️ Average rider can't fix a flat tire not to mention maintenance. Instead of looking for something on 2nd hand market they just go and buy new
The 2nd hand market has also been crazy, but it seems as if the bike boom is over now and prices in general are coming down.
ROSCOE 7 .............
AL-LUME-IN-UM
Correct, they are not CA-ARB-RON-UM bikes. 😆