My Trek Roscoe 9 is Missing One Thing and it Costs $0
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For my roscoe 9 with 2.4 tires, tubeless and cushcore i run 18 on front and 20 on back. Really helps add a bit of softness to the hardtail.
On a hardtail I think a good starting point is 32 front and 30 rear then do minor adjustments from there to find what feels good for you, keep shredding 🤙
Why on earth would they change the direction of the trail every couple weeks??!
Humidity - i spent a year and a half in Louisiana. Used to mountian bike at a place called Clear Springs in Mississippi. After growing up in Wyoming and Colorado, that was an eye-opener. Gotta keep moving to keep the sweat from running down your face. Uncontrollable sweating when you stop for a break.
Some people like to hate on Betasso, but I dig it. Great local spot to blast out a few laps especially on SS or hardtail. Great tire combo, you're running there. I just switched to Teravail tires but haven't had a chance to ride them yet. Keep the hardtail content coming!
Just got my Roscoe 9 and totally stoked. Going to check out this trail soon. Thanks Matty & stay solid!
Honey Stingers are no joke! I get the big waffle cookie and take them on my 15 mile morning rides and they help a lot with no crashing energy. Taste ridiculously good too... especially the honey flavor, IMO. Nice looking Roscoe by the way! I have a Marlin 7 (2023 navy blue) and just put skinwalls on my mine too (both are Maxxis Ikon), and it looks incredible and rides even more incredibly!
Matty, I noticed that you have not created any playlists. I really enjoy your Roscoe contain. I would like to see all the Roscoe content in a playlist. Just a suggestion. Keep up the good work!
Hi Matty - different idea instead of air pressure - how about going clip-less with your peddles, you can unweight you bike rather than pushing down into the peddles / bike causing a rougher ride experience. I ride clip-less on my hard tail with 29” by 3.0 tyres and run 14psi in the front ant 18psi in the rear tyre ….. great vid … Roscoe baby
If you are tubeless just a few psi can make a big difference. I have a pump with a huge gauge just so I can get it exact before every ride. Silica has an online tool called the Professional Tire Pressure Calculator that has worked very well for me.
you dont think that the recommendations are a little low?
@@Jacobomo I don't. They seem bananas but they put a LOT of work into those numbers.
On PLP there is a great video called "you tires are.lying to you" it goes over a lot of the whole backstory.
After watching it, I started getting out of my box and using them as recommended and it's been a huge win!
Here in western PA it's still winter lol. Seriously, this time of year is straight up muck so I run legacy Forekasters 2.35" on a Marlin 7. I was running Ardent 2.35 and may switch the rear back when things start to dry up around the middle of May. Humidity is always an issue so I typically sweat out about 10 pounds of water weight during the summer and ride with a Camelback so I don't bonk or pass out.
After climbing with a high engagement hub I don’t think I would enjoy doing it without it. It feels like you’re propelled over rocks.
I live in central South Carolina and with the humidity it gets like a sauna in the hot weather. I usually try to hit the trail by 7 am. I also try to drink as much water as I can stomach, and wear the lightest wicking t shirts I can find. I also don’t eat that much. The Honey Waffle Stingers are perfect.
Just went tubeless on my Marlin 8 2023 (Maxxis tires also), so good info everyone on the tire pressure as we are experimenting on different terrain. BTW, would love to see Matty get his hands on a Dual Sport and try some of those trails, just to see how much a hybrid/commuter can do. I did my first MTB race on the Dual Support, finished, but then decided to upgrade to the Marlin 8.
Nice video! That behind the wheel shot is 🔥 btw
Cushcore. You can get your tire to squish out a bit for better contact patch but the core keeps it from flopping around. On every bike I have had since 2017.
That tire combo you got for that bike is great
I swapped from the Slash 8 to a Revel Rail 27. Dropping back down to 27.5 from 29ers really made the nimbleness and ability to throw the bike around very noticeable. The Slash can roll over everything, but it can't be thrown around the same at all. I think that may be what you are feeling between the roscoe and remedy.
great little video buddy and sweet little ride too, great commentry too
Looks like an awesome trail. Maybe they should put up some signage regarding the direction of travel or at least post a schedule at the trail head.
Just hit this trail last Saturday highly recommend!
Awesome video mate. It was fun to watch!
You have such a positive and humble demeanor. You seem like a fun riding partner.
color combo is clean af
New subscriber! I just left the LBS and the Roscoe 8 will be here soon! Love the content as I can relate to your riding skill level.
Thank you I really appreciate it!
Those gum wall tyres just makes a bike look clean 😍I switched from dhr front+rear to 2 gum walled DHRs
that was cool! me and you are about the same level at riding hardtail, cool video production
You helped me decide to get a Roscoe 9. I love the bike as much as you love yours
Thanks Matty!
On that bike I'd start with 25 rear, 22 front and adjust 1 or 2 psi depending on how the ride feels for you. Obviously you'd run slightly higher pressures in skinnier tires and/or the rear tire. I have a 29+ hardtail and run lower pressures since 3 inch tires (18 front and 20 rear).
It gets pretty humid here in NY. I don’t think I have a secret other than to just deal with it. I’m used to dripping buckets of sweat during a ride.
Completely wet with water your shirt in the heat of the day...
I love your style dude..I also love the style of this bike..and..so I loved to subscribe..brother! Greetz from Germany man..
“I haven’t been here in over a year” and “this is definitely one of my go to’s” makes a lot of sense 🤔
Oh man, that comment about humidity really hits home for me. I spent a lot of time in the south east. I don’t know much about mountain biking and am learning tons from your channel, but I do know a lot about suffering in the humidity. That’s really the only thing you can do, learn to suffer gracefully. The only thing that will help you keep going is to replace all the water and electrolytes as you lose them. Pre-load with as much water as you can stomach, drink plenty of water during exercise, have some gu or tailwind powder or something at your halfway point, and just accept the fact that you will be drenched in sweat and it feels like you’re breathing water. It will super suck. You eventually get used to it and then something like a 10% drop in humidity will feel like you have super powers 😂
I have a roscoe 8 and ive been neglecting it for my canyon spectral. I gotta give some love to the hardtail too
New subscriber here! Awesome channel! I love watching people ride for the pure enjoyment. In MA. Here!
Thank you I really appreciate you watching and subscribing!!
Large volume tires are super finicky when it comes to tire pressures. I find it best to ride a short blue loop consistanly where youre pushing the tires to the limits. Do a run, come back and pump up or down the PSI by 2. Do another lap and feel the difference, especially in corners. By only going 2 psi at a time, you can really hone in and get an idea of your pressures should be at for 95% of your trail riding.
You really can't feel 2 psi
Rule of thumb for tire pressure, divide your weight by 7, then +1 for rear tire, -3 for front tire. Works every time
Surprisingly quite close to what I run, just need a couple more off the front.
i just got a 2021 roscoe 8 and i am getting the drivetrain tuned in two days and cannot wait to hit the trails
I am riding a new Roscoe 8 with xr4 tores front and rear. So far for trails my minimum is 25 rear 23 front. Any less and I think it feels draggy... I am 6'1" and weigh 215. These Roscoes are amazing!!!
Thanks for giving out the new tire info. I want to upgrade my new Roscoe 8 tires to something faster rolling. The stock tires have too much resistance IMO.
Matty - now all you need is a proper XC racing bike to round out the stable. 110-120mm full suspension. Carbon , threaded BB. Maybe do a custom "frame up build" .😉
Pick a local race and document your journey. 😎
Awesome video Man and she looks amazing and where is the d6...?
Great video ! All my rides are 90's hardtails 26 inch
Nice! I’m actually looking into getting an older bike and trying it on a trail
@@MattyActive still many 90's gems out there for cheap. i snagged a full XT 1998 6061 [only year for this] GT Avalanche LE with a Judy sl for 200 bucks.
I'm struggling with the same thing on my Roscoe 7. Still tinkering with the pressure.
Love you man!
ii lived in houston all my life matty. its humiddddd but bike in humiddty is kinda draing im not the fittest guy but it think it helps with endurance
Looks like a great place to ride, I'm sorry if I missed this in the video but where is this?
My hardtail is a Trek Stache, watching your ride made me want to go out and ride it again!
Betasso Preserve :)
Nimble in the cornering and a great climber!
You might have Remedy-itis...you're never going to be able to adjust the Roscoe to feel as buttery as a quality full suspension bike. With mine, I keep the pressure around 20-25 pounds, a few less in the front. It really depends on what I'm riding in, though, hard vs soft, loose or damp dirt, you have to adjust to the setting. Regarding heat in GA, bring a lot of water and maybe a fresh shirt for the ride home...at least there's a breeze when the bike is moving.
Specialiazed has an awesome mtb pump with a huge guage. for your size I would do 20 front 22 rear.
20 front and 22 rear is what I've settled on after messing with it for a while on my Roscoe 8 with the original tires.
try the sram pressure calculator. Sure works well enough for me.
i run my psi at 20 psi but i am 120lbs and ride a size large so you might need something a little more maybe 24-26 psi i ride a giant fathom 29 so a little different but same sort of style. its interesting to see you riding out there i ride in the north west nj with nica and its very muddy rocky and rooty a lot more than out by you
Hydration, hydration, hydration and then control my energy output as best I can.
I have a Paradox V3 and i run 20 PSI both tires.
I love your videos man and keep up the good work cuz I'm a fan of your bike contents, in which made me interested to ride my bike more..😂
I’m glad I could motivate! I really appreciate you watching
Still wondering what the upgrade is!
i haven't even gone tubeless yet, but have you tried those cushcore insert things? supposed to help avoid hitting your rims while keeping a lower PSI
I have tried those on a hardtail and it felt like I had another layer of suspension! It’s lot more weight tho but it feels amazing. Here’s the video of me trying it out! th-cam.com/video/5WCSPygrUXk/w-d-xo.html
Got a rockhopper expert coming that ill go tubeless day one and add dropper post. Lets go!
P.s. ur calm .. i prolly woulda told that guy to f off that told u u were going the wrong way
Dude - since you’re in Boulder, you should try to partner up with Lee McCormack and try out one of his MTB coaching lessons. It’d be great content and I’m sure you’d get a lot of benefit out of it. I’d like to do it myself sometime, but I’m all the way up in Maryland haha!
You get any crank hits yet on the 9? I had 3 hits today on my 8 here in the smokeys. Same issue with tire pressure here too. Very finicky for sure. Thinking of getting a crank guard to avoid ruining a good ride day. You have any recommendations for a guard?
I have had any honestly but race face makes some pretty good ones I think
Got the Roscoe 7 a month ago, and have 400 miles on it clocked on strava, most of that time I didn't know what psi I was running because I never had a gauge 😅 "had a Marlin 7 b4 the Roscoe too" First Day of riding the Roscoe I ended up getting two pinch flats because of how playful the bike felt and I was just jumping things I wouldn't of have with the Marlin. After that I raised by tire pressure, didn't know to what but it felt great, then I started doing more group rides in parks I never rode before and I could feel the tire bottoming out with me choosing the wrong lines trying to keep up with guys who ride those trail all the time, so on the next group ride I raised the psi to 19 psi and that felt allot better "at that point I got a psi gauge" 19 feels a bit more bouncy but I feel allot more confident riding gnarly sections without worrying about pinch flats. I love the feel of a lower psi, but I found the rear feeling really wiggly with low psi, im hoping cushcores will solve that problem 😅
Also side note, I was going to buy cushcores from the trek store and they informed me cushcores viod the warrently on the rims... kinda surprising something that can protect the rim can void its warrenty?
Anywayyyy that's my tire pressure story 😅 19 is where i am, but I definitely want to go lower.
*I weight 210 lbs
Tire pressure is not useable info without knowing the rider weight
19 psi with a 150# rider is way different than 19 psi with a 200 # rider
@@99cobra2881 very true, how silly of me, 210 lbs here
@@SosBoss Nice my dude Im close to getting a Roscoe 9 and am not much heavier at 220# would be sick to ride a 2.6 at 22 psi or so thats lower than I thought I could go
Used to 26f/28r on my marlin 6 with 2.25 maxxis rekons
Ive gone down to 24f/26r before Nd it felt better but I was getting sealant burping
@@99cobra2881 you'll love the Roscoe, the dropper, fork, and geo is such a huge upgrade from the Marlin. I loved my Marlin, just on techy decents it was sketchish, I did them, but they feel like nothing with the Roscoe. I cracked the frame on my Marlin hitting a jump I only hit once. That same jump I've hit over 10 times with my Roscoe without a problem and much bigger ones. Also the trails I ride are super rocky.
Only way to find out what works best is to get the Roscoe 😉
@@99cobra2881 same here at 220~ on a Marlin 7. Tubeless was great and made the bike feel so much more capable on climbs. I was down to 23 psi but had my front tire burp on a downhill and launch me OTB - so after that the tubes went back in. If I didn't ride so much gravel for distance with it (there aren't many trails around here, only converted rail line MUPs) I'd be looking at a Roscoe 7.
I love my Rosco 9, climbs well, downhill very well !! Only i ordered XT shifter, slx shifts a bit too slow and the dropper on it already has a lot of play and makes a lot of movement noise !! So that will be a new one, not sure what brand for dropper yet !! You any idea for dropper???
Pnw dropper is a good one!
Have you tried 20 psi in rear and 21 on the front? Looking at the trail even 21 front and rear. My hard trail I run rekon front and rear, 2.6. But my hard tail is Santa cruz chameleon carbon. In regards humidity, drink lots of fluids, eat lots. If I do a 30 miles, I drink lots of water 2.5 liter plus a water bottle. Lots of protein bars (maybe 3). I tried to keep my heart rate at 145-160 bpm. Unless I am doing level 3 intervals. Heart rate 180 max for 1-2 minutes. Try to pace yourself!
Anything less than 30psi in my rear wheel = destroy the rim (and I'm on a full sus). Can't understand some of the comments riding 18psi... that tire would pop out just charging a berm...
Bring a little CO2 and a gauge, and pull over and mess with the psi while you're on the trail
You must have a digital pressure gauge!!! Try 17 psi front and 20 psi rear
Have you noticed any vague steering or sketchiness with the DHF front?
I have had a few weird things happen as far as steering but never paid attention. I will definitely keep an eye on that now
@@MattyActive no first hand experience, but heard that with the lug spacing it can feel unconfident until its leaned over enough for the side lugs to dig in. Probably didn't describe that well. 😅
With a hardtail, I'm wondering if that feeling is more pronounced.
im 240 pounds and never been a fan of low psi , even when i was 200p , i run 36 rear 32 front and use a topeak digital gauge . but you will never find the sweet spot because theres no rear shox . try running about 4 psi less in the front than the rear and go up and down till you find what suits your riding and grip level
The Smith link just take you to the main smith website not to a specific sunglasses. What's the model you wear?
I wear the wildcats
Why would they do that with the trails and not mark them properly.
Any chance you can review a Trek Fuel EXE? I've had my Polygon D6 for about 6 months now, and I've come to the conclusion with my hip replacements (im 29), that I really can't handle the pain of the hard strains up the mountain like I thought. I'm basically limited to riding once a week because it takes that whole 6 days to be able to cycle comfortably again.
Definitely gonna try to make that happen!
@Matty Active that would be awesome. I'm stuck between the 2023 fuel exe, or the 2023 Orbea Rise. I still want the exercise, but more than one day a week 🤣 so low assist is the goal.
When is the local group ride coming?
This summer for sure! I’m glad you are interested in that, I’ve been wanting to do it but wasn’t sure if that was something people would want to do!
I realize that the Roscoe 9 is a great bike but for same price is the full suspension Fuel EX 5. Did you compare the two? I'm debating this issue.
If it were me I would go with the Roscoe 9. With these 2 bikes it really comes down to whether or not you want a full suspension. If you want an awesome all around bike with high specs I would go with the Roscoe. Unless you’re just set on just getting into the full suspension realm.
hardtail with clipless pedals are better than a full suspension any day of the week
Low end full sus vs a high end hardtail I would get the tricked out hardtail all day every day.
Ive done the low end bike buy and by the time I was done getting the bike where I wanted it I have spent more on a Marlin 6 than a Roscoe 9 would cost. 🔧💰💰😭
I really dont look at bikes below an 8 anymore.
@@amountainbiker2654 depends on what you're riding. Betasso is pretty smooth so is one of the most hardtail friendly trail systems on the CO front range. Most front range trails are a lot chunkier than Betasso and the front range in general isn't particularly hardtail friendly. I certainly wouldn't want a hardtail going down Apex (another popular front range trail), the climb up is steep and quite techy, the first half of the descent is fast but rooty with some big hits, the lower half is a mile long VERY high speed rock garden and one of the few places here where an enduro bike will be the bike of choice.
What helmet you riding with? 🤙🏼
I use the Kali maya 3.0 here’s the link if you want to check it out! kaliprotectives.com/products/maya-3-0
I weigh around 170 lbs with my gear on. 1 run 23 psi on the front and 25psi on the rear. I might drop 1psi on each if the trail is super dry. This is on a HT....
That’s about what I run but still feels bumpy. I’m like 180 tho so maybe that’s the difference. I’m gonna try 20 front and 22 rear next time
@@MattyActive try cushcore XC on the rear tire and you can run some low pressure
Do you wear elbow and knee pads? Which ones would you recommend?
Yes I use Kali protectives, I use the strike knee pads and elbow pads, they are light and super protective! Here’s the link kaliprotectives.com/collections/bike
I am dropping pressure on rear tire to 18 and 22 on front. I know people say the opposite but there is suspension on the front and that takes some vibration out.
Also you get really good traction on the rear with low pressure.
On the front fork I go way lower pressure than recommended and use the Grip dial to adjust for smooth trails.
Finally, Roscoe is back, I can Re-Subscribe to the channel now. lol haha :) j/k
Dude you’re gonna make me trade in my Marlin 7 for a Roscoe
What is your rim inner width and what is your weight? Being 2.6 I would imagine front you could be around 16-17 and rear nothing higher then 20. Since 2.6 is higher volume you may have to only make 1/2 psi differences until you find the sweet spot.
I’m not sure what the rim inner width is but I need to try that psi! That definitely makes since cus I’m usually 23-24 front and 26 rear 🤦🏾♂️
@@MattyActive go lighter in the rear than the front
@@MattyActive
Line Comp 30 wheels have a 29mm inner width.
Just put these on our pair of factory orange Marlin 6s. I used bontrager skewer adapters and put them on our Marlin 6.9s
Thats what I call them since my wife and I went to town adding mods to them lol
Low 20s is probably a little too low for the front range, our trails are pretty rocky and can be hard on the back tires of hardtails and rims in general
If you wanna run low 20s pressure make sure to add tire inserts like cushcore. I’m also in the front range and that’s been my working setup
In boulder you can get a ticket for anything ...i bet there are bike cops or rangers out there ready to bust anyone for anything
What psi u run bith tires thanks i got 7 in blue
I have been running 23 front and 26 rear
There's a trail my kid and I like to ride out here in boise that every other day switches directions. We only like to ride it one way so we either go on the days we can ride it the way we want or we ride at night so we don't have to listen to the liberal crybabies