Cabover Rebuild P2 Decking & Framing 04.16.17
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- Two senior citizens travel with 2 shih tzu "fur kids" in "Classy", a 1991 Tioga Class C motorhome.
Filmed April 14-16, 2017.
Paul, Travus and I build the framing for the cabover bunk rebuild on our Class C motorhome.
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Soundtracks courtesy of TH-cam Audio Library.
Paul does good work. Real skill set.
Great job so far
Thank you. I believe it to be stronger than original.
It's nice to have a couple of carpenters in the family! They are doing an incredible job. Old Classy will be better than new.
Hi Frank! Truth is that we have a lot of skilled tradesmen in the family. Lucy and I couldn't even think about doing what we do if we didn't have their help and support. We really owe a lot to a lot of people. Thanks for watching.
Geezer at the Wheel With all the fuss about technology, people seem to forget we will ALWAYS need skilled craftsmen (and women) to build stuff and keep it all working. These talented people will never starve. Take care....
you guys' hardware is coming out far easier than mine hahah sincerely, Wisconsin rust
I'm so glad that you are doing the repair the proper way and not just Jerry rigging it like so many would do for simplicity. You should be ready for the summer I'm sure. Thanks for sharing my old friend.
Hi Jerry! I like to fix it once and then move on. Paul has the same mindset, so rigging it is not an option. I hope we get ol' Classy ready for a short trip next month. But we'll see. Thanks for your continued support my friend.
That young man is very talented! Classy is going to be better than new!
Yep, I think ol' Classy will be tighter and stronger than new when we're done with her. Thanks for checking out the video.
This is the most detailed full rebuild of class C nose I've seen so far, very helpful for what to expect. Kudos to your nephews for helping you, they are great guys.
Thank you for the kind words and for watching the vids. We're hoping to be detailed enough to help someone else. We really appreicate our family and all of their help.
WOW that's class A Craftsman ship looks very good I'm sure it is better than it come from the factory I'm glad you have the nephews that can help great video thanks for sharing I'm looking forward to seeing the next one
Hi Howard! Classy will be tighter and stronger than when she was new. Paul won't have it any other way. LOL He's very picky. Thanks for your interest.
Geezer at the Wheel I'm glad Paul is pickey it shows pride in his work
it is looking great. I love to see our old campers loved and fixed. Your nephews are a blessing for you. Most repair shops charge way to much to do that kind of work. I hope more viewers see that it can be done and do it themselves. Great Job.
I'm a real fan of the "retro" campers myself. It's a real pleasure to have one and I appreciate it everytime I hear that big ol' V8 fire up and I know she's ready to hit the road. I hope we're being detailed enough to help someone else DIY this kind of project. Thanks for watching.
The problem with the big shops is not only the price but are they any good my brother had one replace his roof they did a lousy job first trip out and the fiber glass side panel on the cabover rip off they fixed it on warranty but instead of properly joining the new to the old they just put a seam on a trip 3 years later the other side came loose fortunately some one let him know it was flapping he called me asking me what to do I told him to screw it and duct tape it so he did and it's still holding now it's my problem to fix as he gave it to me before he died so video like this gives me an idea of how to fix the unit as the roof has been leaking on the cabover since the warranty died about 6 years ago
Ol' Classy is looking better. You guys are doing a really great job.
Yep, she's starting to look like her old self (minus all the rot). Thanks for watching.
WOW.... that's quite a project going on with "Classy". I'm going to have to be doing the same thing to our RV in the near future.(maybe I should come see your nephew ! )
Looking forward to the next video. Thanks
Hi Jeff! It's a much bigger project than we expected. That's for sure! Thanks for watching. BTW: Paul has mentioned that he wouldn't mind doing another one. :)
I just might take him up on it !
thank you Paul and Travus for helping your Uncle Geezer ! great job
They're really good guys. Thank you for noticing. :)
Looks like it's coming along real good.
Yep, it's coming along quite well now. Thanks for watching!
TY for the vid. I bought a fixruper & had to rebuild the overhang. Your vid was so helpful. She is road worthy now & has been dubbed Mary Journey. Hope you have merry journey's as well. :)
Have a great time! I'm glad to hear you got 'er done.
You guys do nice work.
Thank you Tim! It does seem to be coming together.
They should open a repair shop for older RV, The RV is looking great.
Hi Aaron! They have actually been talking about that. Thanks for watching.
Interesting to see how this is made and that Classy gets a new lease of life. Great support by your family.
Hi Roland! I'm glad you enjoyed the vid. Thank you for watching.
John if your nephews would advertise doing that work at a reasonable price they would have a ton of work. There is something about working with your hands and being a craftsman that gives you a feeling of accomplishment.
He sure would! Young man just got himself a back-up profession.
LOL It's funny that would say this. Paul is talking about starting a side business doing rv body repair. He finds this stuff easy and interesting. It is sad that so many people have never done any "real" work and don't know that feeling you speak of.
You just never know! :)
Your nephew is really doing a great job with the woodwork and fixing classy up right.
Yes he is and I'm so proud of him.
Best and most helpful vid EVER! Paul's work and attitude was awesome! I'm ready to tackle my 5th wheel! Thank you so much for this video.
Hi Kim, I'm so glad you got something useful from the video. Good Luck with your 5ver project. Thank you for your interest and kind words. Happy Trails!
Could not wait for this video and cant wait for the next one! As an armchair commenter, I would not suggest anything different than you have done. This thing is going back together exactly like it was made. Outstanding craftsmanship.
Thank your for the kind and encouraging words. We really appreciate your interest and support.
Awesome job!
Thank you Bill! I appreciate that.
Looking good! That is going to be one solid overhead when they are done.
Hi Tina! Yep, ol' Classy should be tighter and stronger than new when she's done. Thanks for watching, my friend!
looking good very good you got excellent help
She's coming along! And I sure do have excellent help. I really appreciate it too. Thanks for stopping by. :)
PAUL, YOU ARE THE MAN! This is no doubt a major job. I appreciate how organized and clean his work area stays. He's patient and thinks things through. His work looks very nice. It's for sure, this part of the rig will be the strongest part of the the entire unit. I'm sure you and the Mrs. are feeling much better now. Thanks for sharing this job and Paul's knowledge with us. I'm sure this will help other. Looking forward for the next update!
This project is a lot bigger than either of us expected, but it's coming along. Paul is very detail oriented. I'm sure he will have everything strong and tight when he's done. Lucy and I can see light at the end of the tunnel and are, indeed, feeling much better about the repair. I'm glad you're enjoying this series and thank you for your interest.
Geezer, you better buy them boys a six pack when they get done. Just kidding they are worth a whole case haha. They are doing a great job I'm sure you are starting to feel a lot better. Looking forward to seeing you on the road again. 👍
Hi Mr C! I'll just remind them that I changed their diapers when they were little. LOL On second thought I should keep that ace in my hand. At my age, I might need to cash out on that one later on. :) We know it will get done and be right when it is. I'm looking forward to getting on the road too. Thanks for watching!
Lookin' better!
Yep, we're getting there. If we could get a couple of decent weather days, I think we could get her buttoned back up. Thanks for stopping by! Happy Trails
I just found your channel and these videos are inspiring me to fix the overhead cab on my 1983 Class C Minnie Winnie. I know there is water damage, and the previous owner tried some kind of make shift repair but it really just needs to be rebuilt. I think i'm gonna tackle that project starting this week!
I'm glad you found my little channel. This project really wasn't all that difficult. Take your time and think before you do and you'll be fine. I'm honored to be of some inspiration and hopefully some help in getting the Winnie sealed up for many more years of memories. Thank you for watching.
Absolutely awesome, John. Great work!
Thanks Steve! :)
A very good job well done, good thing the 2 helpers were there. Myself I would have done away with the window. Again very good job.
Hi William. I tried to go cheap and not have to buy another skin to cover the window opening. Not a good idea. I really wish I had removed that PITA when I had the chance. LOL Oh well live and learn ... right? Thanks for watching and Happy Trails.
Great to have a nefew and a spare to help you I'll probably have to hire someone to help my great nefew won't help me or gradma for love or money but I have the same problem don't know if it's as bad I hope not
Too bad your family won't help you out. I know I'm really fortunate that way. Just try to do it right so you never have to do it again. My fingers are crossed for ya'. Good Luck.
It's sad we both have to rebuild are over heads
But campers are worth restoring come pared to New ones
I was shocked to see how flimsy the construction was. and newer ones are even worse. Good Luck my friend.
Geezer, I'm in the middle of the same re-build...completely deconstructed and about o rebuild. Please tell me what you used to attach the skin to the new sleeping deck. I tried liquid nails on one of the rebuilt stantions behind the front seats and at this moment it is laying flat and screwed tight. I'll be releasing it on Monday to see how well it adhered. Not sure if I should be using resin for this so I'd love to know what you used, what your experience was with adhesives. Thanks a lot! Great video, it's one of a few that inspired me to take this project on. Peace
Hi Michael! I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. I had forgotten what we used and had to go out to the storage yard to get the information. We used Loctite Power Grab Heavy Duty as the adhesive for the skin. It worked great! Thanks for watching and have the best of luck with your project. 👍
Thanks! That's timely info. I tried 'Liquid Nails' on the skin piece for the lateral support, screwed it together and screwed that whole thing to a solid platform, waited 2 days and NOTHING! Liquid nails does not work. So, I cleaned that whole mess up last night, sanded it all down clean and used fiberglass with one layer of matting between, unscrewed it this morning and VOILA!!...A BOND MADE IN HEAVEN! So, it's good to know Loctite works. I'm bringing back all my Liquid nails now and will get Loctite. I did notice that you all took that skin piece all the way out and I've seen others leave it in and use clamps to hold it together. I was leaning toward the latter method. What are your thoughts on that? Why did you find it necessary to take that piece all the way out? I can see that it would be easier to do it on the ground or bench. All those screws are easily accessible so I might do it that way too. Probably won't get to that part till tomorrow so I'd like to hear your thoughts on that if possible. I'm really grateful to all you folks who took the time to vlog this operation cause otherwise I never would have taken this on. As it is, I have a '98 Coachmen 22ft (hard to find when you're looking for one) with V10 In otherwise good shape, for $1750! A steal I think but who would touch something like that? One side of the lateral support brace was completely soaked and rotten and that's what I'm rebuilding now. The whole camper body was literally separated from the cab!!! But it becomes apparent that once you know what's involved and have everything you need on hand. Two able bodies can do the whole job in 3 days and yet there's one couple on YT that paid 11k for this repair!!! There's a huge market for this now I think as there are plenty of these Class C's with the same problem going cheap. I'll let you know how it comes out. Thanks a million for the feedback. Looking forward to hearing back from you on the issue of leaving in vs taking out the sleeping deck underskin. Happy trails! I'll be on the road behind you this Fall. Will have to sell my '97 Bounder that I love but it's just too big. The 22 footer is so much easier to drive and the power to weight ratio is fantastic with the V10 which is a gem of a motor. So, if you know anyone looking for a Bounder (no slides) in good condition, let me know. You can see it on Craigslist Maine. It will be a few pages in. Thanks again! Peace
We really didn't have a choice regarding removing the skin. To rebuild the nose framing it had to come off. You definitely got a deal on yours. Like you said, once you see how these things are built it's not too difficult to rebuild them. I hope your project is a great success and you make many great memories as fruit of your labor. I'll look forward to hearing how it all goes. The best of luck to you!
Thanks, I got some of the adhesive you recommended. Today we built a new platform with insulation. And I sanded all day on that underskin to get it completely clean. So, we're going to sandwich that with two 3/8 panels all glued together with Loctite heavy duty and then 3/4 plywood's going on top of that. The platform we made came out extremely well so I see this coming together well. Still have to figure out the nose. I also had to rebuild both of the lateral supports behind the seats. Had to jack up the camper to realign it with the cab and have that all screwed together tight now so it's getting there but it is a lot of work and detail and learning experience. A second one would take half the time after all the trial and error experience. So, thanks again and I will let you know how it turns out. Peace
WoW ! Looking really good. Great that your family is giving you a hand. It is interesting to see how it is built. Glad Classy's getting a new lease on life.
Hi Keith! I have a great family! We couldn't even think about rving without them. Thanks for watching.
just for the next time -on those radius curved nose framing blocks ,you could've used your skil saw and cut the thicker material if you wanted to ,i've cut "outside" radius corners with a 7 1/4" skil saw many times with no issues
I never thought to try that. Thanks for the tip.
This is a great video series! Thanks! I am going thru the same repairs in our Class C and had a question about the sidewalls. In video 1, Paul shows the sidewalls were rotted and commented they would have to replaced/repaired. In this video, you show the bracing to the sidewalls and it looks like the surface was removed. What did you to the sidewalls as far as the rot? Thanks again!!
Hi Mike! Once we got everything opened up, we discovered that Classy has a steel frame. We thought it was wood. The steel was very rusty so we reinforced it with 1/8" steel angle iron. The rotten interior wall was overlayed (after we cut out the rot) with plastic coated bathroom paneling. Kind of like wainscot. It's not a beautiful way to do an intereior, but we're only going to use it for storage anyway. However, with a little trim, new paint and flooring it would make a nice sleeping area. I hope this is what you were asking. If not let, let me know. I'll try to help any way I can. This is a nasty project and I wish you great success. Thanks for watching!
Geezer at the Wheel Geezer, yes, this is what I'm asking. You cut out the sidewall rot but didn't have to cut the entire wall so you could replace the cut out area with the plastic wainscot (great idea, that doesn't rot). Another question, what type of wood did you use for the rounded piece? It looks like 2 types. Did you green treat it? Yes, nasty job but you and your family did a great job on Classy!!
All of the wood was replaced with treated wood. Some was green treated and some was brown. I really didn't want to use treated wood because of the chemicals, but I really didn't want the problem again. :) I hope yours goes well for you.
Geezer at the Wheel Correct, this project is a bear! It beats paying $5k at the local RV place though (estimate). I have it right outside in a non-heated space and I live in Minnesota and I want it ready by spring. Tough job and it will cold working conditions to boot!! Your videos showed me the way, thanks for the well wishes!
nice work my friend, very best of luck, well done
Thank you Bowstar.
Looks GREAT!!! Can I borrow Paul?? Lol looks like I'll be doing the same thing to mine. Thank you for making the video!!
Hi Ella. I'm glad you got something from the video. One thing I can say is that I would not take on that project again as a DIY even with Paul. LOL Good Luck to you.
Geezer at the Wheel thanks a bunch I'll be working on that project soon LOL
My friend had an RV shop do this to a Jayco at 7000
Ouch! I'm afraid Classy would be taking her last ride ... to the boneyard with that kind of expense hanging overhead. I'm sorry to hear that your friend had that bill. We're just kind of picking at it when we have some common free time and the weather is decent. Truth is, if we went at it like a job, it would only be a 2 or 3 day project. smh Thanks for watching.
Well he had the window taKen out and new skin on the whole overhead.
That is a great job! Two questions..... one about how much should it cost to have someone do this/ or you do this? And how long did it take you guys to do this? Thank you so much for posting this- it is a project that i need to tackle. and this just help me to relax about it a little more!
Hi Mary. To be honest, I would not do this myself again. I spent nearly a thousand dollars and it took almost 3 months to complete. It might be different if I were younger and healthy enough to not need so much help. I hope this helps you. Good Luck to you.
Paul is in this video, but where did he go in the rest of them?
ooooops. I meant nephew. The one who works on the body.
He was just passing through and that was all the time he could spare.
@@GeezerAtTheWheelGang If he passes through Northern Kentucky, he has a free place to stay, good home cooking in payment for some assist with our cabover. : D
@@matthewgeohegan3056 I'll let him know. Thanks.
Thumbs up!
Right back atcha' my friend!
Thanks Geezer. Great video. Great work Paul. Looks nice, all new inside. How's Lucy these days. Feeling a little less stressed I hope. It's going to be nice! Well worth the surgery for sure.
Thank you for the kind words. Paul is doing a great job and it's really starting to come together. Lucy has been out to see what's going on and is all calm now. :) We appreciate your continued support.
What did you connect the rounded pieces to
I really don't remember. I'm trying to contact Paul. When/if I do I'll be able to tell you. Or maybe it will just come to me. Sorry I can't be more help right now. For a guess, I believe that we built the nose assembly and then attached the whole rounded nose to the framing under the window and to the deck.
I bet you will be happy once classy is fixed and you can get back on the road. It's sad how cheaply these class a revs are made. They should be a lot better made for the prices they charge for them when new. I'm sure they could at the very least make them waterproof so so much damage doesn't happen when they are not being used. My friend's parents got one new in 1982 when we were 8 years old and it only lasted 3 years before it started leaking. It was stored in a heated garage during the winter because we live in Canada. It only had 2500 miles when they had to take it in and get it repaired the first time and by the fourth year they had to trade it in because how bad it kept leaking from the roof and from the sides.
Hi Allan! Oh yes, we will be so glad to have Classy put back together. But we're very willing to wait and let Paul do it right. It's sad that your friends had such a sad experience. I can't imagine buying a new one and have those problems. I would probably come unglued myself. :) Thanks for watching.
Looking good. I think Paul should have his own you tube channel. :) Just curious if you are going to keep the cab over as a bed or do something else..
I agree that Paul should start a channel. I think we're all a little surprised at how well he took to the camera. We're removing the insert for the bed and will just use the space for storage. Thanks for watching.
Leave room for the grandkids lol.
Absolutely! But we can sleep 5 without the cabover. :)
use treated wood. glue several together. band saw best. spray with a wood preservative.
Some very good tips there Joe. Thank you for sharing them.
Hi, I need to do the same job, but I am doing by myself. How you fixed Fiberglas with the new wood? Did you use a special glue? Thank you!
That's been a while ago. I don't remember the product anymore. But I can tell you that it came in a tube, like caulk, and was called a quick (or fast) grip adhesive. Sorry I can't be more help, but I can wish you good luck on your project.
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Thank you! :)