Yep and that's why I don't understand people saying "oh mustang is so much better". "Camaros destroy mustangs". People get so biased that they think their way or the highway.
+Kilion Duke camaro destroys mustangs? haha another pony hater. when they finally came back out with the tiny 5.0 and was smoking all the Chevy's the haterism came back around. less horse less displacement and Chevy still couldn't keep up.. sad
I own a 2016 Mustang and to be completely honest, if I had given the Camaro a look and test drive, I probably would have gone with the Camaro. Mustang is great looking and performs great as my first car but every time I see an SS rolling down the road, I wish I would have gone with the SS.
+Vainer Platypus I knew it finally. A Mustang guy finally admits what he really feels on the inside. The Camaro is undeniable. Come on over to the better side & get a Camaro.
I'd have to go with the Camaro. Especially with that beautiful hyper blue! It's more of a muscle car than a daily driver as it should be IMO. That's what makes it special.
Gotta say man. Im really impressed by your honesty. Thank you for having that integrity. I own a 16 Camaro SS, and I have to agree with most of what you said regarding BOTH cars. Each have their place on the street. But only one has its place in my garage.
+Kyle Justin I imagine you'd like a world where camaros don't exist. Everyone drives the one car that is the greatest, the mustang. No competition no differences, everyone likes what you like, and understands things the way you understand them, what a paradise.
Kyle Justin It makes a lot of sense if you actually think about it. And judging by your profile picture, you aren't a Camaro fan, so you don't have to worry about it anyway.
From someone who has actually owned both of these cars (2015 Roush Mustang GT Premium and 2016 2SS Camaro). I can tell you that this guy has no clue as to what he's talking about when he says stuff like "the Camaro has better performance but you don't actually feel that...". Uh, yes you do! The fact that it's more than a half second quicker 0-60 is very apparent. To put it in perspective, the performance on the 16 SS is as much ahead of the GT as the GT is ahead of the V6 model. It's a totally different car. Also, I found the Mustang's ride to be a lot more harsh than the Camaro in standard or sport mode and you have no option to adjust the suspension in the Mustang so that's another fail on this comparison.
+Sabastian Polizzi and ***** my first sports/muscle car was a 2008 gt500....my 2016 Camaro 2SS is by far better. Dont get me wrong thw Shelby sounded good too especially the whine of the supercharger. ...but honestly my camaro was $12,000 less and performs better and has all the tech stuff. Sounds amazing too!
One thing to note if you aren't too familiar with these cars yet: The Mustang in the vid has the base interior package, while the Camaro has the upgraded interior. This makes a significant difference in the materials and tech used inside (obviously). The Premium 'Stang gets selectable drive modes (Sport, Track, etc) as well as a Car Play compatible touchscreen, plus more leather/premium materials, so on paper the Premium Mustang and upgraded Camaro are very similar
Exactly. I am definitely a fan of the Camaro, and it has an edge over the Mustang in performance, but the premium Mustang interior looks way better than the base shown here, and overall the interior and quality inside feels better to me than a similarly optioned Camaro. I wish they had directly compared two similarly optioned cars.
+ShelbyCobraMustang lol coming from a clear mustang fan boy. i think the mustang looks like an ugly catfish and is a chick whip. your opinion is your opinion. i think the mustang is ugly as shit. but to you it isnt. so your opinion means nothing to me and my opinion means nothing to you. end of story
+ShelbyCobraMustang only a complete fanboy who has never had shit would name his screen name after a car. So it makes no sense telling anything because its useless. Buy a new GT and get spanked by a new SS.
You can also do more appearance mods with the mustang. SO many ppl change grilles and splitters of the stangs, doesn't look like u can do much with the grille of the camaro. I was in between these two cars and I love the camaro but its my only car making it my daily and drive a lot for work during the traffic in Atlanta the camaro would prob give me an anxiety attack with the blind spots haha if u could see out of it like the stang would change it a lot. Only thing holding the camaro back i think
Camaro: A true sports car at this point that can do a little bit of everything. To me it looks and feels more special...almost like it's a weapon. Mustang: A true all around muscle car that is a better daily driver for most people. Conclusion: Mustang is killing the Camaro in sales right now because it's more accessible in price and overall livability. I own a 2012 Camaro and I'm a Chevy guy at heart, but I feel with the new Camaro they've put themselves in a whole other class with this car and it seems they aren't even directly competing with just the Mustang anymore. The track numbers for both these cars prove that. Not sure if that's the right decision at GM, but time will tell.
I agree with that assessment. Here's the problem, the guys at GM are most definitely looking at the sales numbers. Chevy is not in business to sell fast cars. They are in business to sell cars. Mustang and Camaro will forever be inexorably tied together. On the internet, seemingly everybody is a balls to the wall professional track rat and so they conclude that because the Camaro is better in that regard, it is a better car. As if they've never had a commute or are rich enough to own a car just for the weekends. Well news flash, that's an extremely small percentage of buyers. And any true track rat in this segment is far more likely to be looking for a Z28, ZL1, Z06 or GT350 anyway. The positioning of the SS is terrible and the sales numbers prove that. Ford outmaneuvered Chevy on this one, regardless of the fact that the SS outmaneuvers a GT on a track.
The camaro is a better performance vehicle - and if you're actually going to take it to the track - it's a better car. The Mustang is better looking and more comfortable and a better daily driver.
right on switched from 2010 Camaro to Mustang GT better looking inside and out, more than enough performance for daily duties, love the high revving and euro sounding v8
I drove both and I didnt feel as confident and fast like I did in the Camaro. Love the Ford GT looks, but when it comes to performance I gotta give it to the high torque Camaro. That car really pulls. As for visibility Ford has better visibility, but I didnt encounter any visibility or lane changing problems with the Camaro since it has back view cam and side mirror sensors (which btw work flawlessly).
MrPickleHD, If EA Games has a rep wearing a EA shirt doing a full comparison of Battlefield VS. Call of Duty, who do you think is going to win that comparison? If you want a real review, I suggest watching the professionals.
Please... just don't.Don't compare BF and CoD to the Rustang and the Camaro.. and PLEASE don't compare BF to CoD. CoD is more run'n'gun these days and BF has huge maps and a plethora of weapons and vehicles. Please... just.... don't comment back, just say "Okay" out loud.There's no argument here. I don't mean to be a dick... just.... don't be that guy.
I worked for ford selling mustangs but I drive a 16 SS, the mustangs are okay, pretty fun and nice sounding but camaro’s are faster, more premium feeling (and variety), handle better, but have awful visibility
just took a 600 mile road trip in my new 2SS and got 27 mpg 6 speed manual. I does gulp gas like a 1980's corvette in city stop and go traffic though. I didnt expect this car too be this great. it puts my previous camaro and mustang both to shame. performance is astonishing.
But yet the reviewer says that you won't notice the difference. lol These Mustang fans just have to come to terms with the fact that the 6th gen Camaro is just a superior car in every way. Hopefully Ford ups the ante and brings it for the 18' or 19' model year but they have a lot of catching up to do already.
They don't need to up the ante because they are selling alot of mustangs. I prefer my 2SS but you can buy a 5.0 coyote brand new for as low as 28k so these cars probably shouldn't even be compared .
+Anthony 0369 I agree with you somewhat. The reason for the Mustang sales is the much lower price point as you mentioned, but at some point they will have to produce something to appease the enthusiast portion of their fan base.
Chevy is offering deals on the Camaro too, but considering the SS starts at $4300 more than the GT they are in slightly different categories. Anyone considering a well optioned GT should at least look at the Camaro, but yes, there is no way you can get an SS for $28k like you might be able to with a base GT (and heavy discounts).
Love both cars. Recently bought a 2017 GT. One factor that was left out was price point. The fact that people compare these cars so heavily although the mustang is 15k cheaper shows how well it is built.
Okay for all you poeple getting your feelings hurt over other peoples opinions. If you want better performance, you go with the camaro. If you want a better looking interior/exterior and better driving vision, you go with the stang. In my opinion the stang looks much much better modified out as well. I have to say the Camaro with the auto is a much quicker car there is no denying that. Chevy really did a great job. I'm just a stang fan. Hopefully Ford can do better for the 18 model
Exactly, I'm a mustang fan but there's no reason to hate that camaro or anyone who likes it. There both great cars. I'd kill to have both in my garage.
I love Camaros and Mustangs but there is a thing better than the other.14 cylinder motor in the mustang not the best idea.They tried 12 cylinder and failed but which one can can hit and still drive(Mustang).One is more metal and one is a little more plastic(Camaro).I would pick a Mustang Gt for a good reason... It’s not more plastic than the Camaro
Nice review man, if the big car mags. were smart they would hire you up in a flash. You have that calm and informative manner I look for. Some of these channels have annoying hosts who feel they either deserve or want the viewer to think they can afford that Turbo S or RS-7 they are reviewing. Keep up the good reviews!
I had to quit on this dude half way 😂 like you not supposed to have bias towards one car or just don't do comparisons and talk about "how good the Mustang is" or how "much better it's been for so long" which is bs. on another yt account named Mustang fanboy
Lol You can definitely tell his opinion is biased... "This Camaro with the upgraded hood scoops and led headlight"... Those are standard.. The only exterior upgrades are the lip and tint, but even the lip you can get from the factory.
The comments are hilarious. These are both great cars. I got the opportunity to try both and I ended up getting the Mustang. Wasn't a knock on the Camaro, I just thought the Mustang looked better, sounded better (with an aftermarket exhaust), and the interior was nicer and more comfortable. Just depends on preference.
Americans prefer the Mustang. Proof are the sales on the Mustang and reason the Camaro is being killed off. It came in late and it leaves early...bye bye Camaro!!
*so the camaro has a better interior, more power, its lighter, it has WAY more standard features, its nearly as fast as the GT350 while the GT is no where close to the SS in terms of performance. and to top it off it has a louder exhaust and a unique design (its clearly a camaro / pony car) unlike the fusion coupe. but what do you expect from a ford dealership channel.*
GhostlyGhille 455 HP and keep in mind it makes far more torque than the 350, check out lap times as well, the 350 is setting similar times to an m4 and so is the SS. (keep in mind im not talking about the ultra rare 75K R with carbon wheels)
I chose a Mustang only because I knew I could build a 1,000hp street car using the 2015 5.0 platform for a price beneath the cost of a stock 1LE Camaro (2015 model). The LS7 is a good motor, but it is not boost friendly... at all. It takes a ludicrous amount of money to build out while the Ford engine comes from the factory with cross bolted mains and forged lower internals. The Camaro's LS7 according to Chevy, is rated at 580hp NA. That's a realistically light number... but the issue is boosting. I drive blown V8s. The stock LS7 can't handle much boost at all. It can handle boost all day long in perfect conditions... the problem is the thin sleeves and Hyper-T pistons. Any amount of predetonation will blow that engine, instantly unless it has been upgraded (seen it happen, a lot). Said upgrades are insanely expensive. The Mustang comes from the factory with these upgrades already in the engine.
True, but the LT1 it does have has the same architecture in terms of piston and sleeve design that prohibits higher levels boosted performance. Like other folks have said, it isn't that the engine can't handle the power... they can't handle the problems that the power sometimes produces. The engine might handle 700hp from 10-12psi of boost, but if the engine ever predetonates due to bad fuel or air flow issues... the engine will destroy itself. That's why it costs so much money to effectively boost an LS or a now LT1 engine. You have to harden the lower internals, pistons, and sleeves or you are left with a time bomb.
+Guy Gordon Not sure where you got your information. The Gen 5 LT1 stock internals are strong. They can handle a good amount of boost. You are spot on with the LS7 though. The stock To rods are also a weak link.
I absolutely adore either one of these cars. The Camaro would be my ultimate choice if I were buying one today, but my brother has a 2016 Mustang GT with an after market S/C package (600+ hp) and it is so sick! I certainly would have no issues choosing the Mustang over the Camaro if it were significantly cheaper (all other things being equal).
I've been a Ford guy for years and always thought they looked better than the camaro's. The new camaro is really sexy though and the interior looks nicer (although neither is worth bragging about). I haven't drove the 2016's, but looks alone I have to give props to the camaro.
I think it comes down to personal opinion I felt like the mustang gave me a better driving experience but I might be biased lol who cares to each there own and I won't pay a shit ton more money for only 20 more horsepower
I can't even lie that Camaro is the one for me! Just look at it's jet fighter look & stance! It looks more aggressive/menacing than the Mustang honestly!!
Mustangs are better that's my opinion but camaro looks good I just like coyote engines better and the chassis of the mustang better like I said Camaro are cool but mustangs are much better
You would rather a mustang that only looks good from the A pillar back... I mean the front of a mustang looks like a catfish sucking shit off the ground that other cars drop.
At least they didnt turn a new Ford Fusion into a mustang. Have you seen a GT and a fusion next to the other? Its like if Ford as always tries to save money even on design. I dont know on what book the SS looks like a camry but ok.
I own a Whipple Charged 15 Mustang that I absolutely love. And if I didn't have so much money sunk into it, I would sell it for a 2SS or even try to swing a ZL1 in a heartbeat. I have no brand allegiance... Hell, parked next to my Mustang in the garage is a 16 Challenger Scat Pack. I just recognize when I've driven a superior performance car. I finally got around to test driving a 2SS last weekend after my boss ordered a ZL1, and I came back from the drive looking at those cars in a whole new light. I'd love to get my hands on the boosted variant.
I love them both, i was planing on getting the mustang, but before i did that i drove them both, and i guess the Camaro just fitted me more, i love the agressive look, and the feel. It all depends on you and your taste.
+Jacob schonberner he is just a troll. the new mustang does looks almost identical to a ford fusion if you look at them up front. just google images and put mustang and fusion. ford didnt want to spend much more money and called it a day. as always they are cheap. They care more about sells than anything.
Both cars are phenomenal. The Camaro has an amazing engine, stiffer suspension, and it's lighter. I'd say it's the better track car. What I didn't like about it is the poor visibility and higher price tag. I chose the Mustang instead. I love it so far!
There is no comparison. The Camaro is the better car all around. It's comfortable to drive everyday and has the handling and power in a complete package. That is why no major car magazine compares these 2 vehicles anymore. The Mustang tries but never succeeds.
I was Raised hard-core GM.. Owned a corvette , had a 2000's Camaro. Like my Chevy's... But I gotta say that the New 2016/17's Ford Mustangs are just so Beautiful..I like the seats in the Mustang. and the interior .. Hey, i think i make a Change to Ford..
The Mustang, Camaro and the Challenger no matter which one you choose, you made a good choice! Personally I prefer the Challenger the most then the Mustang and lastly the Camaro :’)
When Ford first released the Coyote 5.0 Mustang in 2011, There where Chevy guys buying them because not only was the acceleration quicker, but they simply felt that Ford did a better job all around with the new Mustang. Now 5 or 6 years later Chevy has updated the handling and performance Camaro to the point where it can give the Mustang a much better run for the money. Personally, I'm a Chevy guy but I recently bought a 2012 GT and wouldn't trade it because the Cyote Mustang is a GREAT Bang for your buck late model performance car...
People complaining that this is a Ford channel and it's biased. I am a all around car guy and my dream car is a 70's camaro but I would not buy a camaro from 80s and newer. I hate what chevy does to the camaro and it just doesn't feel or look like a camaro. The mustang has been my number one muscle car since the foxbody. Yeah the foxbody and the 90s mustang got allot of shit but they are amazing platforms. 2005-2014 mustangs looked amazing and reminded me of the classic mustangs and had good power and amazing sound, the 2015+ is even better. no it looks different, not in a bad way, but not in a good way either. it reminds me of a mixture between a American super car and a British sports car. they sound amazing and make amazing power. plus with abit more money you have options for Roush, Shelby, Hennessey, saleen, ect, ect. You can get a Roush mustang for 40k-50k and make 720hp. a true hellcat killer. Ford Is my go to American car company these day. still I'm a import fanboy 👌
Maybe people don't want leaf springs? If you don't know what that is... your not a car guy, last mustang has leaf suspension... its cheap, horrible, and was mainly used on horse and cart. Look it up.
I know how you feel. I’m a Chevy kind of guy, had an S10 Blazer for 250k miles, had a ‘15 Silverado (got rid of it when I moved to the city). But the Camaro just ain’t what it was in the golden years. The Mustang, on the other hand, delivers year after year. Classic styling, great sound, fun to drive, and say what you want, I’ve got an ‘05 GT I bought spanking new, and it’s never been found on the road dead! I still get compliments and turn heads after 13 years. So I really WANT to love the Camaro, but I just don’t. I really love my Mustang and am wanting a new one. Haven’t driven one yet but they have come such a long way. I’ll probably test both but my mind is close to made up already. Other than that I have a Honda Pilot and Civic. Lol. The Civic is actually a fun little car but it doesn’t get noticed very much.
Jag Mag its a lot funner to drive in an older camaro then a new one, especially since u get the feeling the tires might come up and get u killed, just the thrill and awe of others seeing what u do is amazing
+ShelbyCobraMustang u just made the stupids comment ever how douse the camaro look like a malibu ur abviously a mustang fan boy thats but hurt shit even the malibu is better then the mustang
Even though its obviously super bias (ford company reviewing a camaro) at least they got it right unlike the millions of outrageously unfair comparisons of a normal SS compared to a gt500 or gt350.
that water spot make him look like he is floating!!
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Chevy or GM, (Government Motors) they had to put a 6.2L n/a and a supercharged SS to just get beat by the mustang in every way. Chevy just can't bring enough, since 1967 and they've always been one or two steps behind Ford Motor Company. Good luck....
The Camaro is obviously a great car but looks like it was designed by an art student that doesn't know anything about cars, or almost like an overeggagerated concept car drawing that was never toned down for real life. It uses unnecessarily bulk to try pull off an aggressive look but to me the front clip looks terrible, I can't understand why so many people love it, lol. The 'stang somehow pulls off elegance and aggression at the same time, and looks great especially when side by sidewith the Camaro, imo
So you buy cars based only on your subjective opinion about how it looks? And that excuses everything else that's worse about the Mustang? Like every aspect of performance, for example?
Ricky King Which means that you'll be getting a base model Mustang and not a GT. Right? Because looks are the only thing you buy a car for, and the base model looks exactly the same as the GT.
I would rather buy a car I personally love the look of, than choose its ugly rival that has, what, 5 odd % more overall performance than it, yes. I can safely say if I ever own a modern 'stang it would stay its factory, ever-so-slightly-worse-than-Camaro performance for all of about 30 seconds anyway, before modifying it and upgrading its performance in all aspects regardless. You can make a car faster, but you can't fix ugly :P
They're both beautiful cars people. At the end of the day it's up to you, you'll still get laid
Yeah, but which one is a transformer?
PrimeGamer _ they both are actually
Which one was a transformer that didn't die*
fgrcv vffvb They're both still alive...
both of these cars are so close together it comes down to personal preference
Yep and that's why I don't understand people saying "oh mustang is so much better". "Camaros destroy mustangs". People get so biased that they think their way or the highway.
Finally.... someone who gets it. Thanks for being objective.
+Kilion Duke fuck you it was not Henry Chevy
+Kilion Duke look who's talking Mr.biased!!!!!!!!😕😕😕😕
+Kilion Duke camaro destroys mustangs? haha another pony hater. when they finally came back out with the tiny 5.0 and was smoking all the Chevy's the haterism came back around. less horse less displacement and Chevy still couldn't keep up.. sad
I own a 2016 Mustang and to be completely honest, if I had given the Camaro a look and test drive, I probably would have gone with the Camaro. Mustang is great looking and performs great as my first car but every time I see an SS rolling down the road, I wish I would have gone with the SS.
I'm a Mustang guy but damn I can't resist a 2016 Camaro SS
+Vainer Platypus I knew it finally. A Mustang guy finally admits what he really feels on the inside. The Camaro is undeniable. Come on over to the better side & get a Camaro.
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Oldschoolhiphop haha
and look out through the letterbox..
I feel you bro
You know theres bias when the channel is a FORD dealer
The front of the Camaro is so beautiful omg.
I'd have to go with the Camaro. Especially with that beautiful hyper blue! It's more of a muscle car than a daily driver as it should be IMO. That's what makes it special.
just came across your channel bro i subcscribed
Pretty sure muscle cars were nothing more than glorified GT cars with uber soft suspension.... Making them better daily drivers.
yes!
Joseph Roth Most would agree that your car is pretty gay and your input doesn't count.
+Joseph Roth +1
I respect the hell out of both of them, but I'd prefer the Camaro. I could easily understand soneone buying a GT, though.
I love that he smiled more in the camaro... ;)
damn, he could drive from NY to LA non stop? impressive lol
Only in a mustang tho....
he'll put on a diaper like that nasa chick and drive 120 the whole way
the car got to stop... for gas like a million times
***** the mustang
No drag race?
Gotta say man. Im really impressed by your honesty. Thank you for having that integrity. I own a 16 Camaro SS, and I have to agree with most of what you said regarding BOTH cars.
Each have their place on the street. But only one has its place in my garage.
The reasoning for the camaro's tilted down screen, is so that when the sun is shining in the car, it won't create glare.
Still doesnt make any sense. to all manufactures, the camaro only has that tilted down screen. it is ridiculous.
+Kyle Justin I imagine you'd like a world where camaros don't exist. Everyone drives the one car that is the greatest, the mustang. No competition no differences, everyone likes what you like, and understands things the way you understand them, what a paradise.
Kyle Justin It makes a lot of sense if you actually think about it. And judging by your profile picture, you aren't a Camaro fan, so you don't have to worry about it anyway.
Then make it so you can tilt it manually wher eyou want it.. that looks very annoying.
Lodoz Why don"t you give GM a call, and complain there?
I want both 🚘🚘
i like this when people like camaros more than mustangs.
Camaros are just so cool
Both cars are amazingly nice, I'd be happy with either one but if I had one to choose I'd go with the Camaro
Never cared for the design of the new Camaro until I saw it sitting here right next to the Mustang.
From someone who has actually owned both of these cars (2015 Roush Mustang GT Premium and 2016 2SS Camaro). I can tell you that this guy has no clue as to what he's talking about when he says stuff like "the Camaro has better performance but you don't actually feel that...". Uh, yes you do! The fact that it's more than a half second quicker 0-60 is very apparent. To put it in perspective, the performance on the 16 SS is as much ahead of the GT as the GT is ahead of the V6 model. It's a totally different car. Also, I found the Mustang's ride to be a lot more harsh than the Camaro in standard or sport mode and you have no option to adjust the suspension in the Mustang so that's another fail on this comparison.
That's what I like to hear go Camaro
+Sabastian Polizzi and ***** my first sports/muscle car was a 2008 gt500....my 2016 Camaro 2SS is by far better. Dont get me wrong thw Shelby sounded good too especially the whine of the supercharger. ...but honestly my camaro was $12,000 less and performs better and has all the tech stuff. Sounds amazing too!
***** why
***** hey stop my acount was for my pc nothing else
Because you have the roush mustang not the standard GT. dumbass.
One thing to note if you aren't too familiar with these cars yet: The Mustang in the vid has the base interior package, while the Camaro has the upgraded interior. This makes a significant difference in the materials and tech used inside (obviously). The Premium 'Stang gets selectable drive modes (Sport, Track, etc) as well as a Car Play compatible touchscreen, plus more leather/premium materials, so on paper the Premium Mustang and upgraded Camaro are very similar
Exactly. I am definitely a fan of the Camaro, and it has an edge over the Mustang in performance, but the premium Mustang interior looks way better than the base shown here, and overall the interior and quality inside feels better to me than a similarly optioned Camaro. I wish they had directly compared two similarly optioned cars.
In the beginning, it looks like he's hovering
I know
Holy shit
This review is all over the place.. When you're in the car focus on that car, don't jump back and forth all the time until you have driven both.
But he has driven both, prior to showing us this review...
THEgameDeity I'm aware but it's messy and doesn't target one topic at a time.
ive driven both, the Camaro is better.
PooPoo662 looks better too besides the tail lights
+Rmonification Appearances are subjective.
chevy camaro all day. end of story
+ShelbyCobraMustang lol coming from a clear mustang fan boy. i think the mustang looks like an ugly catfish and is a chick whip. your opinion is your opinion. i think the mustang is ugly as shit. but to you it isnt. so your opinion means nothing to me and my opinion means nothing to you. end of story
+Queens NY I own a 2016 mustang I personally think both are sick asf
+ShelbyCobraMustang only a complete fanboy who has never had shit would name his screen name after a car. So it makes no sense telling anything because its useless. Buy a new GT and get spanked by a new SS.
Read my comment son
+Queens NY exactly
You can not deny the sinister look of that camaro. Chevy did it right with the redesign. The mustang looks boring.
SkilledEddie looks like a ford fusion
the mustang only looks boring because of the bland rims, putting a set of glossy black rims on there would make it look a lot better believe me
You can also do more appearance mods with the mustang. SO many ppl change grilles and splitters of the stangs, doesn't look like u can do much with the grille of the camaro. I was in between these two cars and I love the camaro but its my only car making it my daily and drive a lot for work during the traffic in Atlanta the camaro would prob give me an anxiety attack with the blind spots haha if u could see out of it like the stang would change it a lot. Only thing holding the camaro back i think
MIEIRS243 and the tail lights
Black rims are a joke. Stang is great in convertible and Camaro needs help with paint highlights like on the pace cars.
this guys smile is so contagious. He seems genuinely happy to be reviewing these cars, lol
I just recently purchased a 2017 GT, everywhere I go I get Looks, the car really flies, I absolutely love it.
Camaro: A true sports car at this point that can do a little bit of everything. To me it looks and feels more special...almost like it's a weapon.
Mustang: A true all around muscle car that is a better daily driver for most people.
Conclusion: Mustang is killing the Camaro in sales right now because it's more accessible in price and overall livability. I own a 2012 Camaro and I'm a Chevy guy at heart, but I feel with the new Camaro they've put themselves in a whole other class with this car and it seems they aren't even directly competing with just the Mustang anymore. The track numbers for both these cars prove that. Not sure if that's the right decision at GM, but time will tell.
I agree with that assessment. Here's the problem, the guys at GM are most definitely looking at the sales numbers. Chevy is not in business to sell fast cars. They are in business to sell cars.
Mustang and Camaro will forever be inexorably tied together. On the internet, seemingly everybody is a balls to the wall professional track rat and so they conclude that because the Camaro is better in that regard, it is a better car. As if they've never had a commute or are rich enough to own a car just for the weekends. Well news flash, that's an extremely small percentage of buyers. And any true track rat in this segment is far more likely to be looking for a Z28, ZL1, Z06 or GT350 anyway. The positioning of the SS is terrible and the sales numbers prove that. Ford outmaneuvered Chevy on this one, regardless of the fact that the SS outmaneuvers a GT on a track.
HaleFire7 Very well said!
The camaro is a better performance vehicle - and if you're actually going to take it to the track - it's a better car. The Mustang is better looking and more comfortable and a better daily driver.
sounds about right
Facts!
Thank you someone finally said it right.
right on
switched from 2010 Camaro to Mustang GT
better looking inside and out, more than enough performance for daily duties,
love the high revving and euro sounding v8
thats y the mustang is out selling the camaro 10:1 lol
The touch screen in the Camaro is tilted down to reduce sun glare since it is not a matte finished screen.
Mustang ain’t a transformer like the camaro but it’s a beast
I drove both and I didnt feel as confident and fast like I did in the Camaro. Love the Ford GT looks, but when it comes to performance I gotta give it to the high torque Camaro. That car really pulls. As for visibility Ford has better visibility, but I didnt encounter any visibility or lane changing problems with the Camaro since it has back view cam and side mirror sensors (which btw work flawlessly).
Oh cool, a Ford group reviewing a Camaro and a Mustang. I bet this'll be fair.
Actually not a bad review Morrie's Minnetonka Ford. Well done.
+Homer Thompson that's why you watch the video before you comment.
+Homer Thompson horrible review in disguise. fan boy ford
MrPickleHD, If EA Games has a rep wearing a EA shirt doing a full comparison of Battlefield VS. Call of Duty, who do you think is going to win that comparison? If you want a real review, I suggest watching the professionals.
Please... just don't.Don't compare BF and CoD to the Rustang and the Camaro.. and PLEASE don't compare BF to CoD. CoD is more run'n'gun these days and BF has huge maps and a plethora of weapons and vehicles. Please... just.... don't comment back, just say "Okay" out loud.There's no argument here. I don't mean to be a dick... just.... don't be that guy.
Dang I love them both but I might go with the mustang Because of comfort and that classic legend it holds
Very high quality video. Better than most other videos I've watched. You deserve more subs for sure man.
I worked for ford selling mustangs but I drive a 16 SS, the mustangs are okay, pretty fun and nice sounding but camaro’s are faster, more premium feeling (and variety), handle better, but have awful visibility
Personal preference but i believe the Camaro has more character
Camaro is just stunningly perfected with this new gen
Mustang is just so much nicer to drive, and sounds better. PLUS you can mod them out soo nicely.
just took a 600 mile road trip in my new 2SS and got 27 mpg 6 speed manual. I does gulp gas like a 1980's corvette in city stop and go traffic though. I didnt expect this car too be this great. it puts my previous camaro and mustang both to shame. performance is astonishing.
But yet the reviewer says that you won't notice the difference. lol These Mustang fans just have to come to terms with the fact that the 6th gen Camaro is just a superior car in every way. Hopefully Ford ups the ante and brings it for the 18' or 19' model year but they have a lot of catching up to do already.
They don't need to up the ante because they are selling alot of mustangs. I prefer my 2SS but you can buy a 5.0 coyote brand new for as low as 28k so these cars probably shouldn't even be compared .
+Anthony 0369 I agree with you somewhat. The reason for the Mustang sales is the much lower price point as you mentioned, but at some point they will have to produce something to appease the enthusiast portion of their fan base.
Chevy is offering deals on the Camaro too, but considering the SS starts at $4300 more than the GT they are in slightly different categories.
Anyone considering a well optioned GT should at least look at the Camaro, but yes, there is no way you can get an SS for $28k like you might be able to with a base GT (and heavy discounts).
That Camaro is my dream car
Love both cars. Recently bought a 2017 GT. One factor that was left out was price point. The fact that people compare these cars so heavily although the mustang is 15k cheaper shows how well it is built.
Okay for all you poeple getting your feelings hurt over other peoples opinions. If you want better performance, you go with the camaro. If you want a better looking interior/exterior and better driving vision, you go with the stang. In my opinion the stang looks much much better modified out as well. I have to say the Camaro with the auto is a much quicker car there is no denying that. Chevy really did a great job. I'm just a stang fan. Hopefully Ford can do better for the 18 model
same just got my deep impact blue 2016 gt a couple weeks back i love it .
totally agree. I love mustang but now the camaro is really cool too, performance is great. but won't go wrong with both cars, apple to apple.
Exactly, I'm a mustang fan but there's no reason to hate that camaro or anyone who likes it. There both great cars. I'd kill to have both in my garage.
+Mike Morris Agreed. Too much hate on here with this brand loyalty. Hell, just drive what you like and enjoy it!
Mike C. Yup
Base GT vs a top spec Camaro. 32k car vs 46k car. Hummmm.
This is a Mustang GT $32k vs Camaro 1SS $36k comparison.
+3rdWG you get what you pay for
+3rdWG They are actually sold for the same price down here in miami so even better.
Everything Goes this is a 1ss. alot of it is standard.
Mustang is the best
You didn’t mention anything about visibility. The Mustang wins hands down. The Camaro you can’t see out of.
I love Camaros and Mustangs but there is a thing better than the other.14 cylinder motor in the mustang not the best idea.They tried 12 cylinder and failed but which one can can hit and still drive(Mustang).One is more metal and one is a little more plastic(Camaro).I would pick a Mustang Gt for a good reason... It’s not more plastic than the Camaro
Good review. I have a 2016 Camaro 1SS and love it.
no u don't
@AllMuscleNoRice
Nice I have mustang 2.3 ecoboost
It's the biggest piece of crap ever owned lol
i got a 14 maro on 22s....v6....but i keep it clean tho!
Nice review man, if the big car mags. were smart they would hire you up in a flash. You have that calm and informative manner I look for. Some of these channels have annoying hosts who feel they either deserve or want the viewer to think they can afford that Turbo S or RS-7 they are reviewing. Keep up the good reviews!
I had to quit on this dude half way 😂 like you not supposed to have bias towards one car or just don't do comparisons and talk about "how good the Mustang is" or how "much better it's been for so long" which is bs. on another yt account named Mustang fanboy
Lol You can definitely tell his opinion is biased... "This Camaro with the upgraded hood scoops and led headlight"... Those are standard.. The only exterior upgrades are the lip and tint, but even the lip you can get from the factory.
junior ochoa agreed
The comments are hilarious. These are both great cars. I got the opportunity to try both and I ended up getting the Mustang. Wasn't a knock on the Camaro, I just thought the Mustang looked better, sounded better (with an aftermarket exhaust), and the interior was nicer and more comfortable. Just depends on preference.
Americans prefer the Mustang. Proof are the sales on the Mustang and reason the Camaro is being killed off. It came in late and it leaves early...bye bye Camaro!!
*so the camaro has a better interior, more power, its lighter, it has WAY more standard features, its nearly as fast as the GT350 while the GT is no where close to the SS in terms of performance. and to top it off it has a louder exhaust and a unique design (its clearly a camaro / pony car) unlike the fusion coupe. but what do you expect from a ford dealership channel.*
You are drunk too
I agree with you. This is exactly what Ford fans dont want to see. But most of them seem yo be asssholes on purpose.
alex369 yup but not me
+alex369 ss camaro nearly as fast as 350 ? list your drugs sir. sub 450 horse vs 500+ nah
GhostlyGhille 455 HP and keep in mind it makes far more torque than the 350, check out lap times as well, the 350 is setting similar times to an m4 and so is the SS. (keep in mind im not talking about the ultra rare 75K R with carbon wheels)
I chose a Mustang only because I knew I could build a 1,000hp street car using the 2015 5.0 platform for a price beneath the cost of a stock 1LE Camaro (2015 model). The LS7 is a good motor, but it is not boost friendly... at all. It takes a ludicrous amount of money to build out while the Ford engine comes from the factory with cross bolted mains and forged lower internals. The Camaro's LS7 according to Chevy, is rated at 580hp NA. That's a realistically light number... but the issue is boosting. I drive blown V8s. The stock LS7 can't handle much boost at all. It can handle boost all day long in perfect conditions... the problem is the thin sleeves and Hyper-T pistons. Any amount of predetonation will blow that engine, instantly unless it has been upgraded (seen it happen, a lot). Said upgrades are insanely expensive. The Mustang comes from the factory with these upgrades already in the engine.
The 2016 ss doesn't have a ls7
True, but the LT1 it does have has the same architecture in terms of piston and sleeve design that prohibits higher levels boosted performance. Like other folks have said, it isn't that the engine can't handle the power... they can't handle the problems that the power sometimes produces. The engine might handle 700hp from 10-12psi of boost, but if the engine ever predetonates due to bad fuel or air flow issues... the engine will destroy itself. That's why it costs so much money to effectively boost an LS or a now LT1 engine. You have to harden the lower internals, pistons, and sleeves or you are left with a time bomb.
Totally agree w you!
+Guy Gordon Not sure where you got your information. The Gen 5 LT1 stock internals are strong. They can handle a good amount of boost. You are spot on with the LS7 though. The stock To rods are also a weak link.
+Guy Gordon *Ti
I absolutely adore either one of these cars. The Camaro would be my ultimate choice if I were buying one today, but my brother has a 2016 Mustang GT with an after market S/C package (600+ hp) and it is so sick! I certainly would have no issues choosing the Mustang over the Camaro if it were significantly cheaper (all other things being equal).
I've been a Ford guy for years and always thought they looked better than the camaro's. The new camaro is really sexy though and the interior looks nicer (although neither is worth bragging about). I haven't drove the 2016's, but looks alone I have to give props to the camaro.
Both cars are great. But I drove a camaro before and your blind spots are insane you can barely see shit
Mustang like ,Camaro coment
I think it comes down to personal opinion I felt like the mustang gave me a better driving experience but I might be biased lol who cares to each there own and I won't pay a shit ton more money for only 20 more horsepower
I have a 16 Camaro 2SS and love how loud it is. I wish he would have noted that the Camaro 2SS has a 6.2 ltr engine, but otherwise fair review.
I have a 2017 gt could of bought a 2017 ss didn’t want it it’s to hard to see of when u live in the city the exaust how ever is amazing
Camaro is the king of muscle car so cool
I can't even lie that Camaro is the one for me! Just look at it's jet fighter look & stance! It looks more aggressive/menacing than the Mustang honestly!!
I actually like mustangs even though im a Chevy guy, but its Camaro all day and its really not even close
God who even cares just look at the aesthetics that camaro makes me cream with the redesign
Camaro beats the crap out of the Mustang
Mustangs are better that's my opinion but camaro looks good I just like coyote engines better and the chassis of the mustang better like I said Camaro are cool but mustangs are much better
mustang ALLLLLL the wayyyy
Camaro ss looks beast and i love how it looks on the exterior but when it comes to the interior mustang definitely is better and cooler..
gm need to fire their design team....they made camaro look like a damn camry with led eyeliner in headlights....wtf
Ugh I know right. Whyyyy do so many people love its looks
+Ricky King because I like it... That's why
ya its like they tried to make it like a sports car and not a muscle car
You would rather a mustang that only looks good from the A pillar back... I mean the front of a mustang looks like a catfish sucking shit off the ground that other cars drop.
At least they didnt turn a new Ford Fusion into a mustang. Have you seen a GT and a fusion next to the other? Its like if Ford as always tries to save money even on design. I dont know on what book the SS looks like a camry but ok.
I own a Whipple Charged 15 Mustang that I absolutely love. And if I didn't have so much money sunk into it, I would sell it for a 2SS or even try to swing a ZL1 in a heartbeat. I have no brand allegiance... Hell, parked next to my Mustang in the garage is a 16 Challenger Scat Pack. I just recognize when I've driven a superior performance car.
I finally got around to test driving a 2SS last weekend after my boss ordered a ZL1, and I came back from the drive looking at those cars in a whole new light. I'd love to get my hands on the boosted variant.
I love Mustangs but the Camero looks a bit sexier. Both are awsome
I love them both, i was planing on getting the mustang, but before i did that i drove them both, and i guess the Camaro just fitted me more, i love the agressive look, and the feel. It all depends on you and your taste.
Nice review! I prefer the sound of the LT1.
The LT1 is quite nice. Provides a much throatier exhaust note. To me the 5.0 sounds like a vacuum while cruising LOL
+J Smith you're gay man. just stop fanboy.
Agreed, LT1 is a great very American sounding engine.
mustang is my prefrence really have been enjoying it love the old school feel. spacier inside as well .
+ShelbyCobraMustang Are you talking about the Ford fusion with the V8 that has a GT badge? lmao
If you didn't see it Alex. He said: Chevy, Malibu, & Camaro. Ford doesn't make any of those.
+Jacob schonberner he is just a troll. the new mustang does looks almost identical to a ford fusion if you look at them up front. just google images and put mustang and fusion. ford didnt want to spend much more money and called it a day. as always they are cheap. They care more about sells than anything.
If you want old school drive a challenger.
Both cars are phenomenal. The Camaro has an amazing engine, stiffer suspension, and it's lighter. I'd say it's the better track car. What I didn't like about it is the poor visibility and higher price tag. I chose the Mustang instead. I love it so far!
I like both but I think camaro is better
Camaro all day every day , the 2016 just looks amazing
Mustang Is Best
Love my Mustang over the Chevy all day
There is no comparison. The Camaro is the better car all around. It's comfortable to drive everyday and has the handling and power in a complete package. That is why no major car magazine compares these 2 vehicles anymore. The Mustang tries but never succeeds.
The Camaro's front looks better, I think.
Mustang "it gets up and moves"
Camaro "it gets up and moves"
I was expecting an actual review of the Camaro...
I was Raised hard-core GM.. Owned a corvette , had a 2000's Camaro. Like my Chevy's... But I gotta say that the New 2016/17's Ford Mustangs are just so Beautiful..I like the seats in the Mustang. and the interior .. Hey, i think i make a Change to Ford..
The Mustang, Camaro and the Challenger no matter which one you choose, you made a good choice! Personally I prefer the Challenger the most then the Mustang and lastly the Camaro :’)
You can’t see out of a Camaro.
The blue oval has been bringing me pay checks for biased reviews 😂
Mustang 🥰
Oh yeah,
My best car is the Camaro rock on \m/
When Ford first released the Coyote 5.0 Mustang in 2011, There where Chevy guys buying them because not only was the acceleration quicker, but they simply felt that Ford did a better job all around with the new Mustang. Now 5 or 6 years later Chevy has updated the handling and performance Camaro to the point where it can give the Mustang a much better run for the money. Personally, I'm a Chevy guy but I recently bought a 2012 GT and wouldn't trade it because the Cyote Mustang is a GREAT Bang for your buck late model performance car...
Can't go wrong with either, both are great options.
People complaining that this is a Ford channel and it's biased. I am a all around car guy and my dream car is a 70's camaro but I would not buy a camaro from 80s and newer. I hate what chevy does to the camaro and it just doesn't feel or look like a camaro. The mustang has been my number one muscle car since the foxbody. Yeah the foxbody and the 90s mustang got allot of shit but they are amazing platforms. 2005-2014 mustangs looked amazing and reminded me of the classic mustangs and had good power and amazing sound, the 2015+ is even better. no it looks different, not in a bad way, but not in a good way either. it reminds me of a mixture between a American super car and a British sports car. they sound amazing and make amazing power. plus with abit more money you have options for Roush, Shelby, Hennessey, saleen, ect, ect. You can get a Roush mustang for 40k-50k and make 720hp. a true hellcat killer. Ford Is my go to American car company these day. still I'm a import fanboy 👌
I meant muscle car, not super car. I'm sorry
I had a '70 SS 350 for nine years. I would take a new SS any day. .try driving 180 mph in that old Camaro.
Maybe people don't want leaf springs? If you don't know what that is... your not a car guy, last mustang has leaf suspension... its cheap, horrible, and was mainly used on horse and cart. Look it up.
I know how you feel. I’m a Chevy kind of guy, had an S10 Blazer for 250k miles, had a ‘15 Silverado (got rid of it when I moved to the city). But the Camaro just ain’t what it was in the golden years. The Mustang, on the other hand, delivers year after year. Classic styling, great sound, fun to drive, and say what you want, I’ve got an ‘05 GT I bought spanking new, and it’s never been found on the road dead! I still get compliments and turn heads after 13 years.
So I really WANT to love the Camaro, but I just don’t. I really love my Mustang and am wanting a new one. Haven’t driven one yet but they have come such a long way. I’ll probably test both but my mind is close to made up already.
Other than that I have a Honda Pilot and Civic. Lol. The Civic is actually a fun little car but it doesn’t get noticed very much.
Jag Mag its a lot funner to drive in an older camaro then a new one, especially since u get the feeling the tires might come up and get u killed, just the thrill and awe of others seeing what u do is amazing
SS Camaro way better
+ShelbyCobraMustang I hope you get your eyes checked because you're honestly a stupid ass
+ShelbyCobraMustang you can buy an SS for 31K. what r you talking about45k???
+ShelbyCobraMustang u just made the stupids comment ever how douse the camaro look like a malibu ur abviously a mustang fan boy thats but hurt shit even the malibu is better then the mustang
+ShelbyCobraMustang lol! I want it to look like a pony car !! haha performance over everything!
+ShelbyCobraMustang go to Toys R US and buy your self...My Little Pony with the pink hair.
chevy camaro all day like bro said end of story have a 93 z28 got a 2012 ss blacked put now love my baby's in.its leaven the mustang in dust
Even though its obviously super bias (ford company reviewing a camaro) at least they got it right unlike the millions of outrageously unfair comparisons of a normal SS compared to a gt500 or gt350.
that water spot make him look like he is floating!!
Chevy or GM, (Government Motors) they had to put a 6.2L n/a and a supercharged SS to just get beat by the mustang in every way. Chevy just can't bring enough, since 1967 and they've always been one or two steps behind Ford Motor Company. Good luck....
ford mustang winner ;)
The Camaro is obviously a great car but looks like it was designed by an art student that doesn't know anything about cars, or almost like an overeggagerated concept car drawing that was never toned down for real life. It uses unnecessarily bulk to try pull off an aggressive look but to me the front clip looks terrible, I can't understand why so many people love it, lol. The 'stang somehow pulls off elegance and aggression at the same time, and looks great especially when side by sidewith the Camaro, imo
So you buy cars based only on your subjective opinion about how it looks? And that excuses everything else that's worse about the Mustang? Like every aspect of performance, for example?
Yes.
Ricky King Which means that you'll be getting a base model Mustang and not a GT. Right? Because looks are the only thing you buy a car for, and the base model looks exactly the same as the GT.
I would rather buy a car I personally love the look of, than choose its ugly rival that has, what, 5 odd % more overall performance than it, yes. I can safely say if I ever own a modern 'stang it would stay its factory, ever-so-slightly-worse-than-Camaro performance for all of about 30 seconds anyway, before modifying it and upgrading its performance in all aspects regardless. You can make a car faster, but you can't fix ugly :P
+Ricky King I know. Wish you mom would wear more makeup... but even that doesn't help. :P
Camaro of course!
Rent before you buy. I did. The lack of visibility in the Camero drove me crazy. Bought the Mustang, love it.