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The designer of the original Mustang, Gale Halderman, lived about 20 miles from me. He signed the radiator cover on my 2017 Mustang a couple years ago. Sadly, he passed away last year. We lost a legend.
I own a 2016 GT premium I just bought it thank God he didn't mention 2016 or 17 having major problems my neighbor has a black GT 2016 with 135000 miles basic maintenance no problems exhaust system breaks the stuff that's known to break down
@@justinweaver7428 You may be right, but I'm not going to hurry to find out. LOL Just think about it Carroll Shelby started out as a chicken farmer. I guess he got bored. Crazy times
Not true. I don't recall how long ago it was but he explained his glasses....and although I don't remember why, I think it was reasonable explanation. I know that I have seen him without and he doesn't have dark circles
My wife loves Camaros and I love Mustangs. She had a ‘69 Camaro in high school while I had a new ‘86 SVO. Now days she has an ‘11 SS and I’ve got a ‘16 GT. 😁
I've been wanting one for so long. I was about to buy one for around 45k but I ended up spending the same on a s550 2015 and I just needed to independent rear suspension for everyday driving. But the gt500 is such a sweet car.
@@scottykilmer dear Scotty I'm thinking about getting a Camaro and I'm wondering if I should get one and automatic or manual,the Camaros got the 10-speed automatic but I also heard that the manual transmission is also really good and solid smooth like butter what is your opinion?
I know more people like those but to me that fastback are the worst looking Mustangs besides the Mustang II's. As I've always called them a sunroof on the trunk. I bought my 1st GT Mustang at 17 in 1984 cash coupe. Because I hate a hatchback a sports car needs a trunk. But I owned a 2001 Tran Am LS1/T-56 and totaled it when someone came head on into my lane. So instead of paying $5000 to fix it I dropped a cam/heads/lifter etc upgrade into my 1993 Chevy S10. Upgraded the suspension and rear end as well as anti-sway bars and caltracs where I do street race Mustangs/Chargers and Camaros. If they are stock I can beat some with more hp 0-130 mph.
Im a GM guy as well. Owner of a mullet machine 1988 IROC but the 69 Mach I and 69 Boss 429 are the most beautiful cars ever made imo. Body lines, big wide open grille, rear window louvres, spoiler, striping, the old magnum 500 rims....if only Ford and Shelby had agreed to use Shelby's innovative suspension designs from the Green Hornet and other experimental projects in the late 60s imagine the leaps and bounds Ford would've made back then?
Surprised to hear the 2006 Mustang is considered a bad year model. My 06 GT has been nothing but stellar. I guess I got lucky 197000 miles so far..and still runs like a champion. Good video Scotty!
people harp on both engines offered in the base 2006 series, that's probably why. I had an 09, don't regret selling it. the 4.0 was fine though. either way, I'm out of these mustangs finally.
How many times have you had to have the step motors replaced for the dash gauges to work, though? That's another common problem with the 2006 Mustang he failed to mention. In fact, it's such a problem that there are shops dedicated to just fixing those dashboard gauges.
When ford did the retro-styling on those those 2005 & up mustangs they were so stunning to look. As a kid, I couldn't help but stare at those as long as they were in my line of sight lol. and now they took a million steps back from that iconic, classic retro-styling. Now they just look like a foxier ford fusion. A lot more generic instead of iconic. Not saying its ugly, but there's nothing special, or muscle about the styling anymore, and that mustang presence is gone, Don't really care when those new ones pass by, but I'll stop & look if its the older ones from 05 & up or a challenger lol.
@@frostedpearl1386 I actually like the newer Mustang look as aesthetics are subjective, but I totally get what you're saying. That Challenger is perfect.
@@mikeyz1080 Agreed, but let’s be honest, Dodge has only been relevant for the past six years or so, the rivalry between Ford & Chevrolet is more historic.
I had a 2015 Mustang but had to sell it. But I have been in love with Camaro's and Mustangs since the late 80"s when I was in elementary school. Challengers are ok, but #1 has to be Ford Mustang!
I have a 2005 Mustang GT with 140,000 miles on it and a 5 speed manual. The only issues we had with it was the speedometer went out at about 120,000 miles and the throttle body had issues at 135,000 miles. Those were the only issues it’s ever had since it was purchased in 2009 with 30,000 miles on it. It still has the original clutch too and there’s no sign of slippage. It’s been a great car.
Funny I've owned 4 mustangs including a shelby gt350 and I'd never own another mustang after owning a camaro. Camaros taken it to another level in this new 6th generation. The mustang feels cheap and like a regular car the camaro actually feels like a sports car. Ntm I blow mustangs doors off with the new lt1 motor with a simple cam intake and a tune.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 I agree with this statement. It may not be the case all the time, but when I went out with a buddy to test drive a Firebird TA, Camaro SS, and Mustang GT, the Mustang was definitely cheaper with it's materials used. The interior had flappy plastic while the chevy/pontiac felt more durable and had good cloth/stitchwork. You pay a little extra for GM in my opinion, for the quality.
I have an 01 gt. I am a big fan of the new edge mustangs. Parts are generally affordable, I don't think they are overly complicated and relatively easy to work on. I am in the process of building a supercharged motor for mine and it has been a pleasant experience overall.
I have a 2017 FIFTY Camaro purchased new and I am still very happy with the car. I love the styling, the 335 HP of the V6 , the fuel economy using regular and the 8 spd smooth transmission. It is definitely a sports car with little back seat room and challenging visibility at times, but no car is perfect. I love the way the car drives and sounds and keeps me young at 72!
@@legogenius1667 engine was from a 1969 Chevy bel- air with a automatic trans. Not flashy although sufficient enough . Still fast and aerodynamic . Very heavy though it didn’t stop me from leaving others in the dust including a ‘75 firebird. I was in my teens at the time and I still have that car as my fav. Next to a ‘69 camaro. I like the 2016 model as well . Hope I could own one some day. Didn’t mean to rant on sorry . Edited : ‘76 and ‘77 awesome ?
Both are truly gorgeous legendary machines. The fact the zl1 beat a mclaren around a track is bonkers. Idk if the gt500 did the same but wouldn’t doubt it.
Nice choices. The 1990’s Camaro’s were total roaches love them all the way up to they changed the body style in the mid 1980’s the recent ones look good too. I’ve got a 1993 mustang notch back
Bought my '15 GT used with only 20k miles. Now has 96k. The recalls were minor as mine didn't have the fuel leak problem. Only thing "major" that needed to be replaced other than routine maintenance was the AC compressor going out at about 60k miles other than that I still love driving it every day
I just bought my dream car, a 2019 Ford Mustang GT. My neighbor drove a Camaro for a couple years,She finally got her Mustang GT last year. There are 3 Mustang GTs within spitting distance
I have a 2006 that’s been good. I put 215k on it before the transmission had to be rebuilt. Motor doesn’t use a drop of oil. Currently rebuilding the rubber in the suspension. Enjoy!
Btw, if you haven’t changed the spark plugs you need to look into that. It has the ones that carbon up and break off. Sooner is better. Champion makes a one piece plug that worked fine for me.
Have a 2013 Camaro ZL1 manual trans purchased brand new has been flawless regardless of the fact that I drive it hard on the street and have tracked it a few times. Absolutely love this car. Provides abundant smiles per gallon. Never dissapoints. I love the V8 Mustangs, Challengers and Chargers too.
Scotty, i tested a 2020 Shelby 350 over the weekend, the car is a beast!!! Love the mustang and feel that they are the true American sports car. The camaro is nice but the mustangs are ICONIC and if you can do another video for us test driving the 2020 Shelby 350 or the 500, please do.
I almost always leave my vehicles stock as well. I do the intake, and exhaust. If I’m feeling ballsy I’ll do headers and a custom tune but that’s as far as I’m willing to go so I’m not sacrificing reliability
I own a 13 Mustang GT with a 6spd manual. Nothing makes me smile more than taking it for a late night cruise with the radio off and my phone left at home. Nothing against the camero either. Both are great vehicles! (The Camaro’s transmissions are far superior in the SS compared the the made-of-glass MT-82 in my GT) Growing up I was drawn to the SVT Cobra R’s in red... and now I have a red S197! Dreams do come true if you work hard enough.
Ya damn Chinese transmissions... big oof from Ford on that decision. 400hp V8 and they cheap out on that? Derp. I'll still buy one tho. When it breaks I'll buy better parts to rebuild it with. I'm sure they exist by now.
@@JimS870 I remember when I had my 2013 v6 Mustang, the MT82 had a common issue with plastic parts on the shift forks failing, and yes the miss alignment because of the remote mounted shifter setup had multiple pivoting points which an MGW shifter fixed. I have a 2018 GT now with the 10 speed auto, kinda miss the manual at times but the new autos these days are phenomenal.
Right on! I take my 2012 out at night after the wife/kids are in bed and run through the gears on the back roads with the windows cracked. I have acclimated to the MT82 but I wish they would have opted for the Tremec.
I had 2 LS1 model camaro in my life times one was a Z28 and the other was 02 SS. I loved them both especially with the T-Tops and blowing away mustangs of that time off the road. Lol 😆
The greatest sounding car of all time is a late 80's early 90's Mustang 5.0L with flowmaster mufflers. A sound so iconic I can hear it from a mile away and know exactly what it is.
As usual, great video! Thanks! Perhaps I'm a bit old fashioned but I prefer the '67-'69 generation camaro most of all. The simple design and nice clean lines draw me to it. The newer Camaro may be much faster icons of modern technology but the original vehicle possesses all the charm and character--at least for me. Of course, beauty and preference is all in the eye of the beholder. I've never been a big Mustang fan but I certainly value the incredible history of these vehicles. I think both cars are wonderful representations of American automotive history.
They used that model line when they relaunch the Camaros in 2010. They continue with that lines until 2014, then they switched to the new cadillac platform on 2015, but not as good looking . The best years for me are the 2012 - 2014, great looking as the 67-69, but better engine and technology, and the handling is way , way better.
I'll always be a Camaro person at heart, I own two now but I've owned at least 7 over the years. My daily ride Charger is fun, but Camaro's will always be my favorite. 🙌
I always loved the second gen Camaros. I learned how to drive in a 3rd gen Camaro and got my license using that. I been able to take care of it well with your advice too so thank you for the educational videos!
My 2015 Mustang has had a lot of recalls, but luckily no major problems yet. It’s a fbo Coyote with 38k miles. Have had minor issues (as to be expected from modifying) but other than that, it’s still running strong. Makes for a great daily and great car to have fun in. 👌🏽
I have a 1982 GT T-top, '95 GT and an "07 convertible. In the past I have owned a '65 coupe, '66 fastback, '67 convertible and a '68 coupe. The immaculate '82 GT gets more attention than any of them!
@@Raansu Yeah, personally I dont see an issue with visibility, as an owner. Outward visibility is good, unless I'm trying to see an airplane in the sky, or a basketball directly infront of my grill. I can see beside me, behind me, and infront of me perfectly fine and I dont even have the Rear View camera mirror.
Love these "Mini Documentary" like videos going back on history of vehicles and how they got to where they are today! Looking forward to the next one Scotty!
I was 16 when I saw the refresh for the camaro and I knew right then what my dream car would be. At the humble age of 22 a day after my birthday I bought a 2017 2SS in Blue with white stripes and that beautiful peanut butter interior. Its gonna be my baby for a long time.
The 2007 Ford Mustang Gt is my favorite because I own one. Despite not having the horsepower that the modern coyotes put out, it’s still very zippy for what it is. The retro design is what I love the most about it. It’s very striking and no car on the road looks like it, except the 60’s Mustangs and S197 Mustangs of course.
Thank you so much ! We have a 2018 RS Camaro with the four turbo manual trans, we also have a 2018 Colorado ZR2. we are 79 years young and love our Camaro. This car runs and handles wonderful , It is a sports car, much smaller and lighter, this car will scream when getting on it. It gets around 30 miles per gallon. We have heard people don't like the trunk (opening to small) well we don't play golf, it is fine with us. People don't like the bake seat, Well there is only two of us, it works great to put stuff in.There is not that much room inside, but it is a sports car ! Love the 6 speed manual transmission. We live in northern Nevada. Where we live we have to drive 30 miles to the nearest town, and enjoy the ride. We really like your program. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
I like them all, Chevy had way more hot rods to choose from and nothing beats their classics when it comes to looks. but the mustang, the Ford GT, and the 06/07 f350 international diesels will all ways be my choice. And the Ford focus RS with it's 2.3L eco boost engine pushing 350 HP is pretty impressive to.
I love my 2011 3.7 Mustang convertible. 30mpgs, 305hp, 0-60 is better than the competition, safe, and short braking distance from 60 to 0. It handles great too. Gauges look awesome too. One thing I hated about the Camaro in the same gen, was the gauges by the stick. Also the dash. But to each their own.
hey scotty..was nice to hear the 2014 s197 mustang got a good consumer report...I had been looking for one for 3 years..i just love the style ..the last before it went euro style..don't love them..finally got my s197 last year with 10 thousand miles on it ..and some mods..LOVE it...thanks for all you do brother..
@@lamassu4100 Both GM and Ford are American companies. Both models have been out for around the same time, too. You're not really cheating anyone but yourself when you buy a vehicle, so get the one that you prefer. Either will help the USA out.
@@lkerzgrl24 If you've ever gotten to handle a ZL1, or even the SS the thing was made for racing without modification. It's track ready from the dealership. Now, both cars premium models I'm sure handle quite well, but the edge does go to a ZL1 if you want to race on a track.
Always been a camaro guy. Fell in love with them when I saw my first IROCZ in high school back in 85. I did buy a new 2012 GT500 back in late 2012 but I've had 6 camaros. I think both are great cars. By the way the Rally Sport option is a trim package, not an engine package. Back in the 60s you could order the RS package on any camaro.
It always bugs me about how people boast about RS performance package when it's not. It's all aesthetic badge work and trim, which is available in base and SS models. IROC Z's were awesome, especially the T-tops. Makes me miss my 88 Firebird Formula. Just bought a newer camaro and felt like i stepped right back into my old firechicken.
1979 Z28 Camaro enjoyed it a lot like to get another. I also had a 1956 210 post shouldn't ever sold it. Miss both cars. Scotty do one on the best Chevy and Ford.
I was a loyal mustang owner for several years when I was young. I probably had six Mustang’s three were brand new off the showroom floor three were late model used. But then, one day I rode in and actually got to drive a French Camaro and I fell in love with it! And I’ve been a Camaro fan every since right after today’s newest version. So, I have loved and on many of each of them, they both are fantastic in their own way!
My first car was a 1969 Red/Black Top GTO with a 400 ci/4 barrel carb, really fun for it's day! My first Camaro was a 2000 I bought in 2003 sold it in 2018. Absolutely the most reliable car I've ever owned. In 15 years and 140k miles, other than normal maintenance, I replace the catalytic converter and one emissions part, everything else was still original including the water pump, alternator, radiator, etc. Now I drive a beautiful 2018 Blue metallic Camaro SS II with white stripping and black enabled wheels. Love it! And since I am now retired, I'm not putting much mileage on it (only 30k in five years, also ride a motorcycle) so I plan to take good care of this beauty. What I really like about these muscles cars is everything is heavy duty build to take a beating on the track. They are fun to drive, and good looking too. Thanks for this video Scotty!
5 Mustang GT's for me too. '89, '95, '97, '01 and '15. However, my favorite by far is my current '15 w/ PP. The handling with it's independent rear suspension can't be match by any of the earlier generations.
@@dalek.6171 If I had a 10 speed I'd never daily drive it. I'm too much of a manual guy, I have to shift it brings me joy! That 10R80 will just be dragged with other auto's at the track.
Damn straight! I had 1990 RS as my 1st car. . . Had the 3.1 V6 in it so it didn't have the power of an IROC-Z, but it still looked great and with the T-Tops off it was fun to drive. I'd still have it but got into an accident that cost too much to repair.
I traded my 2004 Z06 Vette for a 2019 Mustang GT with the A10 automatic. I don't miss my Corvette at all and will never own another car with a manual transmission. The A10 is awesome.
Sadly, GM had the Ute in Australia all the way to a couple of years ago which was the El Camino. That would’ve been our chance for a new El Camino, but it’s been discontinued. Shame because I’ve always loved El Caminos and I think it would be perfect for today’s market that loves crossovers. Everyone wants SUVs that ride like cars, then why not a truck that rides like a car? So much potential squandered...
2011 2SS. Mine is the LS3 6 speed. When I first bought it I said I was gonna leave it stock. And just enjoy it like it came in stock form. but of course I just cannot leave stuff alone. Its fully built now. There is something about getting into a fast car. I've always loved them. And have had many Mustangs and Camaros amd Trans Ams In my time.
its sad a 6.2 only makes 400 horse my 03 4.6 made 395 and was under rated. its only got 57k miles on it and is making 746 horse at the rear tires and has never had the heads or oil pan off, still has all factory options a/c full exhaust. Sadly if things go the way the tree huggers want it we wont have to worry about any high horse gas motors in the next 10 years.
currently on my second Mustang, an '05 V6 convertible. had it now for 6 1/2 years. my first Mustang was a used '83 V6 convertible. i like 'em because it seems to be the best bang for the bucks in a fun little ragtop. have a great day, Scotty....... and rev up your engine!
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Once Ford goes to Mexico and Chevy heads out to China there won't be any true American manufacturers. It's all "Global" now.
3.8L V8? 😂 It's v6, I owned one.
Chevy!!
Scotty definitely did his thing on this mini documentary. PS... I wonder if Scottys arms and hands are going haywire during this documentary?
Please don't quit youtube🥺
The designer of the original Mustang, Gale Halderman, lived about 20 miles from me. He signed the radiator cover on my 2017 Mustang a couple years ago. Sadly, he passed away last year. We lost a legend.
I own a 2016 GT premium I just bought it thank God he didn't mention 2016 or 17 having major problems my neighbor has a black GT 2016 with 135000 miles basic maintenance no problems exhaust system breaks the stuff that's known to break down
Lee Iacocca, as developer who brought on Carroll Shelby , Gale Haldeman as designer, what a team ! Sadly all are gone now 😞
@@benkrom2737 they may be in heaven designing the next great muscle car behind the pearly gates, that's what I like to think, at least.
@@justinweaver7428 You may be right, but I'm not going to hurry to find out. LOL Just think about it Carroll Shelby started out as a chicken farmer. I guess he got bored. Crazy times
Wow that’s awesome
Legend has it Scotty hasn't taken his sunglasses off in 50 years
The big O 😎
Those are Chester style transition lenses
He don't want to show us the dark circle under his eyes. He work 24/7 never sleep
Not true. I don't recall how long ago it was but he explained his glasses....and although I don't remember why, I think it was reasonable explanation. I know that I have seen him without and he doesn't have dark circles
They are made by Toyota
My wife loves Camaros and I love Mustangs. She had a ‘69 Camaro in high school while I had a new ‘86 SVO. Now days she has an ‘11 SS and I’ve got a ‘16 GT. 😁
What happened to her 69 Camaro?
Don’t get her started on it. Her dad traded it for some tractor tires. Lol
@@jasonbyassee3158 sounds about right lol
@@jasonbyassee3158 my grandpa sold my dads ‘72 chevelle ss
Y’all must have no kids or must be have a good job
Im a ford and a mustang guy , but these newer camaros don't look bad.
I’ll hang on to my 2013 Shelby GT500. Love the way it’s engineered. A ton of torque and tall gearing.
You got one of my dream cars man! 🙌🏽
One of the last true shelby's
I've been wanting one for so long. I was about to buy one for around 45k but I ended up spending the same on a s550 2015 and I just needed to independent rear suspension for everyday driving. But the gt500 is such a sweet car.
the trinity would have been such a better buy, not to mention a collectors item. older but the terminator cobra would be another.
Now that is a work of art. Expensive now too. In my area, There's one for sale for $140k and another for sale for $69K it's crazy
Scotty I we everyone appreciates the work you put in to making these educational history videos
thank you!
Agreed
@@scottykilmer love the knowledge you throw out there!
@@scottykilmer dear Scotty I'm thinking about getting a Camaro and I'm wondering if I should get one and automatic or manual,the Camaros got the 10-speed automatic but I also heard that the manual transmission is also really good and solid smooth like butter what is your opinion?
@@aestheticswim3397 Scotty always says manual transmissions.
I'm a gm guy and love camaros , but the fastback 70 ford mach 1 mustang with the rear window spoiler is one the best looking cars ever !
I'm also a Camaro guy, have owned 3 different gens, and I have to agree...the '70 Mach 1 is a beauty of a muscle car.
I know more people like those but to me that fastback are the worst looking Mustangs besides the Mustang II's. As I've always called them a sunroof on the trunk. I bought my 1st GT Mustang at 17 in 1984 cash coupe. Because I hate a hatchback a sports car needs a trunk. But I owned a 2001 Tran Am LS1/T-56 and totaled it when someone came head on into my lane. So instead of paying $5000 to fix it I dropped a cam/heads/lifter etc upgrade into my 1993 Chevy S10. Upgraded the suspension and rear end as well as anti-sway bars and caltracs where I do street race Mustangs/Chargers and Camaros. If they are stock I can beat some with more hp 0-130 mph.
I'm a Ford guy thru and thru but I love Challengers,Mustangs, Camaros, Corvettes,Vipers,and Ford GTs. USA all the way baby.
Im a GM guy as well. Owner of a mullet machine 1988 IROC but the 69 Mach I and 69 Boss 429 are the most beautiful cars ever made imo. Body lines, big wide open grille, rear window louvres, spoiler, striping, the old magnum 500 rims....if only Ford and Shelby had agreed to use Shelby's innovative suspension designs from the Green Hornet and other experimental projects in the late 60s imagine the leaps and bounds Ford would've made back then?
@@FunkyGOB 70 Boss 429 Is BETTER
I don’t see the Camaro and Mustang as enemies, I see them as brothers 🇺🇸
Step Brothers😂 Still Family Thoe...I Love These Two Cars So Much I Want One Of Each⌚💰
@@Tyrant96 yep in the end it’s all about American muscle 💪
God dam* passivest
I would have to totally agree they are brothers
Mmm…….
Surprised to hear the 2006 Mustang is considered a bad year model. My 06 GT has been nothing but stellar. I guess I got lucky 197000 miles so far..and still runs like a champion. Good video Scotty!
people harp on both engines offered in the base 2006 series, that's probably why. I had an 09, don't regret selling it. the 4.0 was fine though. either way, I'm out of these mustangs finally.
Boy do people lie in the comments
How many times have you had to have the step motors replaced for the dash gauges to work, though? That's another common problem with the 2006 Mustang he failed to mention. In fact, it's such a problem that there are shops dedicated to just fixing those dashboard gauges.
@@JacobPaul-ix7oc Ive owned the car since 2009 & so far no issues with the gauges. Guess I'm lucky.
@JacobPaul-ix7oc 0 for me, but removing the gauges and desoldering the old ones and soldering on new ones is easy.
I had 2006 white mustang, I love the modern throwback retro look but my thermostat housing cracked, otherwise great car.
Get yourself a iron cast one, saved me tons of money
When ford did the retro-styling on those those 2005 & up mustangs they were so stunning to look. As a kid, I couldn't help but stare at those as long as they were in my line of sight lol. and now they took a million steps back from that iconic, classic retro-styling. Now they just look like a foxier ford fusion. A lot more generic instead of iconic. Not saying its ugly, but there's nothing special, or muscle about the styling anymore, and that mustang presence is gone, Don't really care when those new ones pass by, but I'll stop & look if its the older ones from 05 & up or a challenger lol.
@@frostedpearl1386 yeah exactly new mustangs are ugly as balls man
@@frostedpearl1386 I actually like the newer Mustang look as aesthetics are subjective, but I totally get what you're saying. That Challenger is perfect.
You misspelled otherwise a completely defective car
Scotty is #1. Never give up, never surrender!
No Retreat, No surrender!
*Camaro vs Mustang fight*
Dodge: Hey, we exist too.
Ford & Chevrolet: you’re not in this discussion...
Insert Tom & Jerry sword fight here
Meanwhile the Challenger is just in the corner making quiet Hellcat noises..
I'm a Chevy guy myself but... I have to say the retro Challenger is my favorite as far as looks.
Dodge not here cuz they already killed the camaro and mustang ran to electric...lol
@@mikeyz1080
Agreed, but let’s be honest, Dodge has only been relevant for the past six years or so, the rivalry between Ford & Chevrolet is more historic.
Had a 2010 Camaro 2SS. What a great car. Super dependable, great performance and what a looker. I miss that car.
Miss mine as well . 👍🏽
Still have mine drive it every day best car I ever had
Same here!!
You should have kept your Camaro 5th gen I'm keeping mine in real good shape looks a lot more retro than the newer ones
I had a 2011 Camaro LT. Loved the style but had one too many issues.
I'm a huge GM guy. I currently own a 2014 SS 1LE and love the all around performance of the Camaro.
Dreamed of owning a Camaro since a KID.
Bought a 72’ Chevelle.
&
Haven’t dreamed SINCE😎
Dad had a 1968 convertible pony car with a 302 v8. He loved it!!
I had a 2015 Mustang but had to sell it. But I have been in love with Camaro's and Mustangs since the late 80"s when I was in elementary school. Challengers are ok, but #1 has to be Ford Mustang!
@Henryk Czemierzewski Hope you have a full recovery. I'm considering the Challenger more and more because of the spacious cabin and V8 MUSCLE!
Just watched Ford vs Ferrari, great movie!
Same. Loved it - a beautiful movie!!
It was amazing. The crowd was going wild in the movie theatre.
Did we ask
I need t watch it again !!!
@@StoneColdMike i asked
I have a 2005 Mustang GT with 140,000 miles on it and a 5 speed manual. The only issues we had with it was the speedometer went out at about 120,000 miles and the throttle body had issues at 135,000 miles. Those were the only issues it’s ever had since it was purchased in 2009 with 30,000 miles on it. It still has the original clutch too and there’s no sign of slippage. It’s been a great car.
2019 GT is my first and probably last Mustang. I cannot imagine ever parting with it. I have owned more than 6 Camaros.
Funny I've owned 4 mustangs including a shelby gt350 and I'd never own another mustang after owning a camaro. Camaros taken it to another level in this new 6th generation. The mustang feels cheap and like a regular car the camaro actually feels like a sports car. Ntm I blow mustangs doors off with the new lt1 motor with a simple cam intake and a tune.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 I agree with this statement. It may not be the case all the time, but when I went out with a buddy to test drive a Firebird TA, Camaro SS, and Mustang GT, the Mustang was definitely cheaper with it's materials used. The interior had flappy plastic while the chevy/pontiac felt more durable and had good cloth/stitchwork. You pay a little extra for GM in my opinion, for the quality.
@@gozinta82 I wasent a fan of the 5th gen camaro but the 6th gen they really stepped up. The handling is awesome. Drives like a sports car should.
@@mr.eastcoastgrow6132 I’m stuck between a 08 300c srt8 or a 2014 Camaro SS which would you pick ?
@@ccenda3109 ‘14 camaro. 08’ is an old grampa car.
Mustang being my favorite car ever I absolutely love this video.
Sure wish Ford still made good cars LMAO
@@applejuice9468 my 17 Focus ST is phenomenal. Next car is a Mustang. Had 3, ready for another. Ford still makes as great a car as any. Troll much?
I love my 2015 Mustang. It’s great! Bought it new with 35 miles on it, still only has 16,000 miles. Just my weekend ride.
Nice! I have a 2015 Mustang GT as well. Got it in 2016 with 5k miles, now at 38k miles and still running strong 💪🏽
I have an 01 gt. I am a big fan of the new edge mustangs. Parts are generally affordable, I don't think they are overly complicated and relatively easy to work on. I am in the process of building a supercharged motor for mine and it has been a pleasant experience overall.
How did the project go?
I purchased my 2021 Gt with performance package and i love it...This car was like having the best date ever when i drove it at the dealer.
I have a 2017 FIFTY Camaro purchased new and I am still very happy with the car. I love the styling, the 335 HP of the V6 , the fuel economy using regular and the 8 spd smooth transmission. It is definitely a sports car with little back seat room and challenging visibility at times, but no car is perfect. I love the way the car drives and sounds and keeps me young at 72!
I’ll never forget my 1975 Camaro . So many good memories with that car .
If you don't mind, what was it like? My dream is to own a 1976 or 77 Camaro, with a 4-speed and hopefully a V8.
@@legogenius1667 engine was from a 1969 Chevy bel- air with a automatic trans. Not flashy although sufficient enough . Still fast and aerodynamic . Very heavy though it didn’t stop me from leaving others in the dust including a ‘75 firebird. I was in my teens at the time and I still have that car as my fav. Next to a ‘69 camaro. I like the 2016 model as well . Hope I could own one some day. Didn’t mean to rant on sorry .
Edited : ‘76 and ‘77 awesome ?
@@legogenius1667 At the very least get a V8.
I owned a 1984 Camaro and a 1993 Mustang 5.0, enjoyed both cars!!!
84 camaros are awesome
Scotty: “My favorite Mustang is a 94 Celica”
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LOL...LOL...LOL...Ha Ha Ha...YUK, YUK, YUK...Har Har Har...LOL...LOL...LOL...He He He.
😅😅😂🤣 sounds about right.
94, but still funny
I remember seeing the celica and thinking it looked like a mustang then seeing the 2015 mustang and thinking it looked exactly like the celica.
Both are truly gorgeous legendary machines. The fact the zl1 beat a mclaren around a track is bonkers. Idk if the gt500 did the same but wouldn’t doubt it.
A 2007 GT500 beat an M6 on a track, so I would say that’s also bonkers
That ending clip was 🔥🔥🔥
But we all know how scotty feels about GM in general
my favorite is the '67 Mustang, only because there's one sitting in my garage, my weekend fun car.
me too, I'm 7R02S10XXXX
@@mikesrestoration ;
Me too, I'm 7R02S11XXXX
Love our 2016 SS, with only minor tweaks it’s making 455hp at the rear wheels on a chassis Dyno.
My first car was a 72 camaro then a 92 mustang gt I miss them equally I also had a trans am a Corvette all were great in their own way
Is a trans am a fun car to drive ?
Nice choices. The 1990’s Camaro’s were total roaches love them all the way up to they changed the body style in the mid 1980’s the recent ones look good too. I’ve got a 1993 mustang notch back
@@nobodyyett9789 i believe they are fun i got a 94 trans am and its a great car never broke down on me
@@nobodyyett9789 it was until I wrecked it driving too fast too young
@@nobodyyett9789 50 now retired firefighter and mechanic so no more sports cars for now my next buy is a 2015 lexus GS 350 or IS 350 either one rwd
Mustangs also mad appearance in Transformers movies. Its the decepticon Barricade's vehicle form (police version of Mustang).
Yep a badass Saleen
Freaking love that one!!
Same with the Camaro, Bumblebee lol
Bought my '15 GT used with only 20k miles. Now has 96k. The recalls were minor as mine didn't have the fuel leak problem. Only thing "major" that needed to be replaced other than routine maintenance was the AC compressor going out at about 60k miles other than that I still love driving it every day
93% of ford's are still on the road today and only 7% made it home
Oh come on man, do you really think they're that bad?
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JK asking me to pick between the two is like asking which your favorite child is
not gonna lie, they had us in the 1st half
Also Four Old Rusty Doors.
@@UpperRobin29 but what if you don't love either of your children?
I just bought my dream car, a 2019 Ford Mustang GT. My neighbor drove a Camaro for a couple years,She finally got her Mustang GT last year. There are 3 Mustang GTs within spitting distance
smart people.
Got 2005 Mustang GT 5speed. Love this car. Getting close to 100k as i do drive it everyday. And its been running like a champ.
I have a 2003 Mustang, sonic blue...car is still running at 198,000 miles and gets tons of compliments. I will never get rid of it.
I have a 1995 mustang gt. 202k miles. Original motor tranny. 2 clutch since I've owned it lol
I've got a 2009 4.0 V6 with arounf 220k miles, still runs fine
I have a 2006 that’s been good. I put 215k on it before the transmission had to be rebuilt. Motor doesn’t use a drop of oil. Currently rebuilding the rubber in the suspension. Enjoy!
Btw, if you haven’t changed the spark plugs you need to look into that. It has the ones that carbon up and break off. Sooner is better. Champion makes a one piece plug that worked fine for me.
I have a 2016 SS Camaro. I love the car!
I want one so bad
Have a 2013 Camaro ZL1 manual trans purchased brand new has been flawless regardless of the fact that I drive it hard on the street and have tracked it a few times. Absolutely love this car. Provides abundant smiles per gallon. Never dissapoints. I love the V8 Mustangs, Challengers and Chargers too.
Scotty, i tested a 2020 Shelby 350 over the weekend, the car is a beast!!! Love the mustang and feel that they are the true American sports car. The camaro is nice but the mustangs are ICONIC and if you can do another video for us test driving the 2020 Shelby 350 or the 500, please do.
Got a 2015 Camaro SS and I couldn’t be happier! Still going at 76k miles when I got her at 28k. Stock however no mods other then an intake.
Nice!
Did the intake help?
I almost always leave my vehicles stock as well. I do the intake, and exhaust. If I’m feeling ballsy I’ll do headers and a custom tune but that’s as far as I’m willing to go so I’m not sacrificing reliability
@@fredbear5343 yes! Based on a dyno I gained 10hp with a CAI intake
It’s good to hear you were very intelligent
I own a 13 Mustang GT with a 6spd manual. Nothing makes me smile more than taking it for a late night cruise with the radio off and my phone left at home. Nothing against the camero either. Both are great vehicles! (The Camaro’s transmissions are far superior in the SS compared the the made-of-glass MT-82 in my GT) Growing up I was drawn to the SVT Cobra R’s in red... and now I have a red S197! Dreams do come true if you work hard enough.
Ya damn Chinese transmissions... big oof from Ford on that decision. 400hp V8 and they cheap out on that? Derp. I'll still buy one tho. When it breaks I'll buy better parts to rebuild it with. I'm sure they exist by now.
They're not made of glass. Get a good shifter bracket and it's good to go. It's not weak it just misaligns.
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@@JimS870 I remember when I had my 2013 v6 Mustang, the MT82 had a common issue with plastic parts on the shift forks failing, and yes the miss alignment because of the remote mounted shifter setup had multiple pivoting points which an MGW shifter fixed. I have a 2018 GT now with the 10 speed auto, kinda miss the manual at times but the new autos these days are phenomenal.
Right on! I take my 2012 out at night after the wife/kids are in bed and run through the gears on the back roads with the windows cracked. I have acclimated to the MT82 but I wish they would have opted for the Tremec.
I had 2 LS1 model camaro in my life times one was a Z28 and the other was 02 SS. I loved them both especially with the T-Tops and blowing away mustangs of that time off the road. Lol 😆
The greatest sounding car of all time is a late 80's early 90's Mustang 5.0L with flowmaster mufflers. A sound so iconic I can hear it from a mile away and know exactly what it is.
I agree completely. The only car that even comes close to a sound that good would be the C5 ZO6
Just got me a 2017 Camaro 2LT 2.0 cyl. And boy is it a perfect daily driver & eye catcher!
I know! I have the YELLOW!
As usual, great video! Thanks! Perhaps I'm a bit old fashioned but I prefer the '67-'69 generation camaro most of all. The simple design and nice clean lines draw me to it. The newer Camaro may be much faster icons of modern technology but the original vehicle possesses all the charm and character--at least for me. Of course, beauty and preference is all in the eye of the beholder. I've never been a big Mustang fan but I certainly value the incredible history of these vehicles. I think both cars are wonderful representations of American automotive history.
They used that model line when they relaunch the Camaros in 2010. They continue with that lines until 2014, then they switched to the new cadillac platform on 2015, but not as good looking . The best years for me are the 2012 - 2014, great looking as the 67-69, but better engine and technology, and the handling is way , way better.
I had quite an adventure in a 72 stang with a 351 Super Cobra Jet, the generation of cars you left out
That 10 speed mustang is gnarly. I’ve seen some crazy videos of that thing walking all over cars.
Faster than a Scat Pack and that thing's torque is nasty. It also handles like a sports car.
I'll always be a Camaro person at heart, I own two now but I've owned at least 7 over the years. My daily ride Charger is fun, but Camaro's will always be my favorite. 🙌
1970 Mustang Sportsroof 351-C was a very good model. The 351 Cleveland engine had massive cylinder heads and would breath !
Yeah the cleveland was a beast in its day .
I always loved the second gen Camaros. I learned how to drive in a 3rd gen Camaro and got my license using that. I been able to take care of it well with your advice too so thank you for the educational videos!
My pick of the favorite goes back and forth depending on the generation but if I had to pick one and only one it would certainly be 68 Camaro SS
absolutely!!!!
69 RS/SS
@@rus19297 My first thought too.
I had a 67 RS/SS totally agree!
My 2015 Mustang has had a lot of recalls, but luckily no major problems yet. It’s a fbo Coyote with 38k miles. Have had minor issues (as to be expected from modifying) but other than that, it’s still running strong. Makes for a great daily and great car to have fun in. 👌🏽
Mustang for life.! They're the most beautiful, attractive and mean looking American muscle car
I have a 1982 GT T-top, '95 GT and an "07 convertible. In the past I have owned a '65 coupe, '66 fastback, '67 convertible and a '68 coupe. The immaculate '82 GT gets more attention than any of them!
"The 2016 Camaro is great!"
Me who has 2020: Awesome! Mines not that different!
"One of the least reliable Camaros is the 2020 Camaro"
Me: Oh My GAWD!
The 2020 Camaro grill is so ugly to me. Sorry.
@@angelgjr1999 The base model got a downgrade but the SS got an upgrade imo.
@@Raansu Yeah, personally I dont see an issue with visibility, as an owner. Outward visibility is good, unless I'm trying to see an airplane in the sky, or a basketball directly infront of my grill. I can see beside me, behind me, and infront of me perfectly fine and I dont even have the Rear View camera mirror.
@@TheGamersRace I'm own a 2016 camaro 1LT I do agree it has too many blind spots
Better sell if before 65k miles 😂😂
Love my 2017 Camaro. 33k, daily driver since new.
Mustang all day, especially the Shelby family
Mustangs are the first but really not the best
and svt, they should have kept that name too.
My favourite is the 2012 Camaro I drove around the USA in 2012. Will always have fond memories of that car.
Scotty, this is cool. Thank you.
The two best muscle cars in the world.loved this video Scotty.
Period
Love these "Mini Documentary" like videos going back on history of vehicles and how they got to where they are today! Looking forward to the next one Scotty!
Yeah it was pretty dope I enjoyed it as well
I was 16 when I saw the refresh for the camaro and I knew right then what my dream car would be. At the humble age of 22 a day after my birthday I bought a 2017 2SS in Blue with white stripes and that beautiful peanut butter interior. Its gonna be my baby for a long time.
My favorite all arounder is a 6th gen SS 1LE. It’s comfortable enough to daily because of magnetic ride, plenty of power, and is a track monster.
Vouch
'19 camaro owner. Thank you for a wonderful video.
'19 mustang owner. Thank you for being slower.
@@JamesC00 ‘19 crowd. Thank you for not running into me
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@@JamesC00 I beat a guy with a 2020 gt in my 17 2ss 😂😂😂
@@kevinalonso3395 watch out you might do the same
The 2007 Ford Mustang Gt is my favorite because I own one. Despite not having the horsepower that the modern coyotes put out, it’s still very zippy for what it is. The retro design is what I love the most about it. It’s very striking and no car on the road looks like it, except the 60’s Mustangs and S197 Mustangs of course.
I own a 68 302 c.I Mustang coupe. Love it. Built it piece by piece,all oem parts. 5.0 liter 4 barrel,dual exhaust with functional side pipes
I bought our 2007 Mustang GT convertible brand new. Redfire color. We still love driving it. Folks love the retro looks.
Thank you so much ! We have a 2018 RS Camaro with the four turbo manual trans, we also have a 2018 Colorado ZR2. we are 79 years young and love our Camaro. This car runs and handles wonderful , It is a sports car, much smaller and lighter, this car will scream when getting on it. It gets around 30 miles per gallon. We have heard people don't like the trunk (opening to small) well we don't play golf, it is fine with us. People don't like the bake seat, Well there is only two of us, it works great to put stuff in.There is not that much room inside, but it is a sports car ! Love the 6 speed manual transmission. We live in northern Nevada. Where we live we have to drive 30 miles to the nearest town, and enjoy the ride. We really like your program. Keep up the good work. Thanks again.
Good evening, Scotty! Hope you are enjoying Tennessee.
evening and yes so far, thanks!
I would love to go back to TN and not just pass through like last time. Hope y’all aren’t getting too much rain.
@@Huskers-yo9yl The rain has been quite abundant here in West TN. I’m not sure about further East.
@Andy Candy I don’t see any overly intimate comments literally anywhere. I think you’re mistaken.
@@BlueBird_V looks like you're about outta milk...
I still Dream about the Old Mustang and it's 289 Cu Engine, they were built to Last!!!
Old chevys were always better and mane they were beautiful. Camaros, chevelles, novas, el caminos, 64 impalas
I’m more of a ford guy but I would take a 69 nova any day
I like them all, Chevy had way more hot rods to choose from and nothing beats their classics when it comes to looks. but the mustang, the Ford GT, and the 06/07 f350 international diesels will all ways be my choice. And the Ford focus RS with it's 2.3L eco boost engine pushing 350 HP is pretty impressive to.
nope
64 and 96 impala ss both good
Omg just stop it with old cars
I love my 2011 3.7 Mustang convertible. 30mpgs, 305hp, 0-60 is better than the competition, safe, and short braking distance from 60 to 0. It handles great too. Gauges look awesome too. One thing I hated about the Camaro in the same gen, was the gauges by the stick. Also the dash. But to each their own.
Im a Ford guy and I would live to have a 69 Mustang Mach 1 some day. But I can appreciate any muscle car. They are all awesome.
hey scotty..was nice to hear the 2014 s197 mustang got a good consumer report...I had been looking for one for 3 years..i just love the style ..the last before it went euro style..don't love them..finally got my s197 last year with 10 thousand miles on it ..and some mods..LOVE it...thanks for all you do brother..
Love my mustang
I love both, each one has it's own beauty and history, but my first choice would be Mustang.
America first
First never means best
You realize that they are both American cars, right?
@@applejuice9468
To you.
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@@lamassu4100 Both GM and Ford are American companies. Both models have been out for around the same time, too. You're not really cheating anyone but yourself when you buy a vehicle, so get the one that you prefer. Either will help the USA out.
In terms of styling, I’d have to go with Ford. In terms of reliability, ease of repair, and cost of parts I’d have to go with Chevrolet.
What about handling??
For all 3, Id go with the camaro
@@lkerzgrl24
If you've ever gotten to handle a ZL1, or even the SS the thing was made for racing without modification. It's track ready from the dealership. Now, both cars premium models I'm sure handle quite well, but the edge does go to a ZL1 if you want to race on a track.
@@Adel-sj4ue Chevy hands down
Chevrolet is not as reliable as Ford, but if I had to buy a 2017 year car from either, I would buy a Camaro.
Love my 2015GT 6 speed manual. Its been 7yrs now 27k miles still no issues.
I bought an '05 Mustang GT for my 65th birthday. First year of the 5g retro. Love the looks, power and sound!
Really enjoining these types of videos Scotty....
Always been a camaro guy. Fell in love with them when I saw my first IROCZ in high school back in 85. I did buy a new 2012 GT500 back in late 2012 but I've had 6 camaros. I think both are great cars. By the way the Rally Sport option is a trim package, not an engine package. Back in the 60s you could order the RS package on any camaro.
It always bugs me about how people boast about RS performance package when it's not. It's all aesthetic badge work and trim, which is available in base and SS models. IROC Z's were awesome, especially the T-tops. Makes me miss my 88 Firebird Formula. Just bought a newer camaro and felt like i stepped right back into my old firechicken.
IROC = I race old Cadillac's ?
@@johnkalberer2277 that's about the only cars an IROC can beat these days. They looked great but they are slow.
@@PumaPete I certainly hope that they would be slow 30 years later.
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@@PumaPete Cadillacs are some serious racing , they have a whole racing division , they do make very fast race cars
1979 Z28 Camaro enjoyed it a lot like to get another. I also had a 1956 210 post shouldn't ever sold it. Miss both cars. Scotty do one on the best Chevy and Ford.
I was a loyal mustang owner for several years when I was young. I probably had six Mustang’s three were brand new off the showroom floor three were late model used. But then, one day I rode in and actually got to drive a French Camaro and I fell in love with it! And I’ve been a Camaro fan every since right after today’s newest version. So, I have loved and on many of each of them, they both are fantastic in their own way!
My first car was a 1969 Red/Black Top GTO with a 400 ci/4 barrel carb, really fun for it's day! My first Camaro was a 2000 I bought in 2003 sold it in 2018. Absolutely the most reliable car I've ever owned. In 15 years and 140k miles, other than normal maintenance, I replace the catalytic converter and one emissions part, everything else was still original including the water pump, alternator, radiator, etc. Now I drive a beautiful 2018 Blue metallic Camaro SS II with white stripping and black enabled wheels. Love it! And since I am now retired, I'm not putting much mileage on it (only 30k in five years, also ride a motorcycle) so I plan to take good care of this beauty.
What I really like about these muscles cars is everything is heavy duty build to take a beating on the track. They are fun to drive, and good looking too. Thanks for this video Scotty!
Two great icon vehicles in our time!
My pick is the Ford mustang it's a great looking sport car!
I've been through 5 mustang gt's now all ranging in order from the '89, '02, '07, '16 and '11. By far the 2011 I have now is my favorite...
5 Mustang GT's for me too. '89, '95, '97, '01 and '15. However, my favorite by far is my current '15 w/ PP. The handling with it's independent rear suspension can't be match by any of the earlier generations.
Why did you go from a ‘16 to ‘11
@@waspcosm1c901 Personal preference. I love that model years body style and stance when modded correctly.
'87 GT, '89 LX 5.0, '93 GT, '97 Cobra, '05 GT. All 5 Speed. Need to try the 10 speed
@@dalek.6171 If I had a 10 speed I'd never daily drive it. I'm too much of a manual guy, I have to shift it brings me joy! That 10R80 will just be dragged with other auto's at the track.
I thought I clicked the wrong video, the voice was way too calming! Thanks for the great info.
I've never made a video before but I can see the effort, I appreciate ya!
I'm generally a mustang fan. I currently own a 2012 boss 302 and I love the performance from it.
my pick would be the 1987 IROC-Z camaro! i love the look . no other car looks like it!
Was it easy to work on
@@ronringler4286 other than it having fuel injection yes it was!
Not for me. 2021 Camero..or 69 Boss GT 5-speed 302..or 65 Fastback Coupe 289..
Damn straight! I had 1990 RS as my 1st car. . . Had the 3.1 V6 in it so it didn't have the power of an IROC-Z, but it still looked great and with the T-Tops off it was fun to drive. I'd still have it but got into an accident that cost too much to repair.
@@captinbeyond I’m sorry to tell you there was no 1982 iroc z the iroc z did not come out till 1985 lol 😂
I believe the most appealing of all the cars is the first gen camaro, beautiful car
I traded my 2004 Z06 Vette for a 2019 Mustang GT with the A10 automatic. I don't miss my Corvette at all and will never own another car with a manual transmission. The A10 is awesome.
Hummm, as I recall there are automatic transmissions in minivans too, long live the manuals!
I love the mustang and Camaro but I’d have to take the stang .
I have a 2012 Mustang GT ,but I love the Camaro and always have.
I was just needing this talk.
I would like to see both companies redo the El Camino and Ranchero. Wide bodies would be cool too!!!
Sadly, GM had the Ute in Australia all the way to a couple of years ago which was the El Camino. That would’ve been our chance for a new El Camino, but it’s been discontinued. Shame because I’ve always loved El Caminos and I think it would be perfect for today’s market that loves crossovers. Everyone wants SUVs that ride like cars, then why not a truck that rides like a car? So much potential squandered...
2010 SS over here. 6.2L, 400 HP. Super fun.
That's what I'm trying to get. Hard to find one for a good price with under 200k miles
They are fun cars and handle pretty well. My little brother has one I sometimes drive it for the day and let him borrow one of my cars
awesome cars. proper suspension unlike those utter pos s197 mustangs.
2011 2SS. Mine is the LS3 6 speed. When I first bought it I said I was gonna leave it stock. And just enjoy it like it came in stock form. but of course I just cannot leave stuff alone. Its fully built now. There is something about getting into a fast car. I've always loved them. And have had many Mustangs and Camaros amd Trans Ams In my time.
its sad a 6.2 only makes 400 horse my 03 4.6 made 395 and was under rated. its only got 57k miles on it and is making 746 horse at the rear tires and has never had the heads or oil pan off, still has all factory options a/c full exhaust. Sadly if things go the way the tree huggers want it we wont have to worry about any high horse gas motors in the next 10 years.
currently on my second Mustang, an '05 V6 convertible. had it now for 6 1/2 years. my first Mustang was a used '83 V6 convertible. i like 'em because it seems to be the best bang for the bucks in a fun little ragtop. have a great day, Scotty....... and rev up your engine!