This is the new mid-torque: homedepot.sjv.io/e45W2D Find our rankings here: etsy.me/3G8j3QK. We just got the high torque, will be working on that this week! What are your guesses on how it will do? Torque, who started TTC, is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impacts (air). Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
Why not the 6ah max output? While using the new ridgid tools every day at work, i definitely notice a power difference between the 6ah and 4ah despite the two batteries being identified inside and out.
You should have compared all Ridgid R86212B 1,300ft/lb 900 ft/lb breakaway on a different episode by itself. This video gets confusing trying to figure out what ridgid you are using.
Ive been using the ridgid impacts in the real world for years at transmission shop daily and beat the crap out of them, theyve been great!! I own all the milwaukee line in the impacts and ratchets as well and the funny thing is the mid octane 1/2 gun actually outperforms new milwaukee 1/2 or 3/8 in bolt removal speed even though its listed lower power on here. Ridgid has a different hammer mechanism it seems and they can snap the bolts loose faster. I got rid of new 1/2 milwaukee mid torque cuz it was disappointing and slow. 90% of time octane 1/2 can take a whole car apart, otherwise I grabbed milwaukee high torque to finish the job. Ever since the high torque ridgid 1/2 came out and the new impact driver i believe the Ridgid line is the best out there. The power, the light weight and the warranty cant be beat. My milwaukees have parked themselves in a drawer
Great to see it's not a downgrade from the Octane! I still don't know why TTI scrapped the 21700 3aH in both the Ridgid and Ryobi lines, and only kept it for Milwaukee...
So they don't outperform and take sales away from their more expensive tools. Milwaukee tools and packouts are marked up 100s of %. We know this when they go on sale and because less than 2 years ago most of the packouts cost $20-40 less per piece.
Just for reference, the milwaukee gen 3 impact, drill, 2 x 5ah batteries, 1 x 2ah 12v battery, charger kit costs over $1300 AUD at the moment. I bought this exact kit 18 months ago for $650 AUD. That price difference isn't covid, it isn't sales or discounts, it's just TTI being dicks. Makita have their 40v impact, drill, 2 x 4ah batteries, charger for $1000 AUD. And it comes in a systainer (cheap plastic box is always better than a blow moulded case) That price difference (between makita and milwaukee) is almost 2 days work for a skilled worker on minimum wage.
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter i can see that being the case for ryobi. But TTI doesn't own Ridgid. They just make the tools for Emerson. You'd think Emerson would be telling TTI what to make for them.
you guys stuff is ALWAYS awesome!!!! But I have a request. I wore my OG Bauer 1/4" 20v Brushed out, and was MORE than pleased. When I went to replace i let the HF peeps upsell me to the Hercules 20v Brushed and since I unboxed it a year ago I have HATED it!!!! It didn't compare to the Bauer it replaced. Just replaced it with the new Bauer 1/4" 20v Brushless and oh my God, it is amazing!!!! Is there any way that you can do a comparo of the HF units so that we REALLY know what is what??? I would be more than happy to send both the Herc and the new Bauer each with charger and 5AH batteries, but as I said my OG Bauer brushed is caput so that one is out....I also own a few other brands that were rated way higher and way more $ than this new Brushless Bauer but I am floored at how damned good it is, and that is without factoring in the fact it is only $49.....Thanks for the effort put into your content
Your videos are great, and just go to show that most of the time, the tool brand isn’t the issue, it’s operator error. As someone looking to purchase their first power tool set, I’m going with team Orange, as that lifetime service agreement is killer
@@billymurphy3 Not understanding your acronym, but AEG have always been mid range tools, now made on licence by Techtronic Industries ( Hong Kong) as are Ryobi and Milwaukee. They will be made to a different spec than either.
I used th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
I have noticed with the Octane Midtorque despite its lower tested output that in daily use it does as well if not better than some others in its class when removing fasteners. With a higher ipm it seems to heat fasteners crazy fast which I believes helps it a good bit. The largest fasteners I have used it with successfully with were 1-1/8 headed 5/8 threaded lug nuts. This is about the peak of what it can do and usually grab the hi torque.
thank you for testing this. black friday and cyber monday deals, u can get this for $169 with battery and charger at HD. i used your link to hopefully help keep these amazing videos coming!
Here in Canada you can still get the Octane with a 4Ah battery for the equivalent of $150usd. Great impact for your income. The new mid torque is $190usd for the tool alone.
There's an extra "6" in your title which might make it hard to find later. We're publishing a BN video about this today, and will reference your vid. Thanks guys!
Just got the octane high torque before the run out. Hopefully the new max output batteries will be on par with the octane battery that is no longer available
This video is awesome. I’m glad you guy made this because I’ve been waiting to find out for a year now how these “max output” batteries hold up to my aging octane batteries. Glad to see they can hold their own…but to your point about them not performing as well with the older tools, do you think you could do a second run with the older Octane mid torque running the max output battery? Either way, thanks for shooting this. Definitely owe you guys a beer for this one
Purchased te Ridgid mid torque kit with tool, battery, and charger for $150 at Home Depot at time of this comment. Ships next day free. Can’t wait to receive it.
I just wanted to share something I recently saw. I know some people prefer a detent pin style over the friction ring style, but I saw a video of a Dewalt Dcf899 where the anvil broke right at the detent.
The new Ridgid midtorque really reminds me of the m18 high torque in a smaller package. Looks like a great tool, more professional. Now we wait on m18 gen3 mid....
@@TorqueTestChannel i think you were supposed to have got a battery with the price you paid for the ridgid during this tool takeover event. Id double check
@@TorqueTestChannel I have over 40 Ridgid 18V tools and I don't think I paid full retail for a single one. There's always deals to be had if you look for them.
@@mike_t_007 i’ve only used it once so far, but it worked great. I used it to help a friend change the tire on his truck. His lugs are torqued to 140 foot pounds. Even with the slight loss of torque from the adapter on my flip socket, it had no problem breaking them free.
@@DiligentDave1966 That's awesome 😎 I missed the crazy April Home Depot sale for $77 but got mine slightly afterwards. Still haven't used it used it but have been coming up with fun stuff around the house to use it with. It is powerful and goes will with the older high torque version of you can find one of those 🙂
@@mike_t_007 I don’t think I will ever really need a high torque impact wrench. Honestly, if I hadn’t been able to get the deal I got on the mid torque, I probably would’ve gotten the Kobalt, the Hercules, or the Dewalt. The new Dewalt is an absolute beast, and I already have a couple of Dewalt power tools. By the way, I paid $169 for my Ridgid impact with the battery, a charger and a bag.
Could you test the Kimo extended and standard ratchet? Been seeing a lot of good reviews from them and since I go to you guys for all my "possible buys" , it would be nice to see it tested against other ratchets. Thanks!
Great test/great channel. How about testing these in the different modes tightening fasteners? Many times we will snug or pre-tighten fasteners using an impact and then finish with a torque wrench. If we have a ballpark max torque for each mode this would make that process easier. Also, to be honest most home mechanics don't have a 250ft-lb torque wrench much less something higher so they (we=me) will likely use an impact and guess at the final torque. A hitch ball requiring 450ft-lb would be an example. I would say most have a 0-150ft-lb. Thanks! David
Has anyone looked at the Bosch GDS18V221N ? It’s a nicely sized mid torque that feels great in the hand. Lowes currently has a deal, buy the tool, get a 4.0ah battery and charger for free. Bosch doesn’t give much in terms of torque spec on it, just 221 ftlbs. Doesn’t say if that is tightening, max, breakaway, etc.
I was looking for a Power Stack at Home Cheapo. They had a few deals on power stacks plus tools. Just a power stack for $100 or with a tool for $150. Of course no impact wrench but they did have a driver
Still waiting on that 8ah Max Output battery. Originally it was supposed to be out last fall. Oh, well. At least Ridgid finally came out with a cordless ratchet! :)
Me too. Doesn't help that the ridgid power tools promotions for upcoming tools website lists the 6ah as "coming soon" still. They don't keep it up to date. That and they dont even have the 1250 in lb high torque hammer drill on the 2022 list. Wish they'd keep up with things so i didn't have to walk in to home depot every single day asking if they're in yet.
It would be great to see the Kobalt mid torque compared to the Ridgid and Ryobi. Looking to get into one system for car work restoration ast home. Rachets and impacts. Recommendations???
Love this channel! In your TTC BCS could you stop doing "in their preferred direction" so we can compare on the same level? I have a 2962 and really don't care what it does in max forward for 15 seconds. Thanks, you guys are the best!
The whole point of BCS is to be "Best Case Scenario." If it's not done that way, it wouldn't be best-case. Also, you can't really go changing the definition of an existing test, since there's all this data collected using the definition. TTC could add a new test, though, I guess?
@@johnhawkinson Yeah no shit! BCS Batteries fresh off the charger in their preferred direction. Just saying drop the preferred direction and run them all in the same direction. I don't care about forward for 15 sec in an impact wrench unless I'm trying to break something, I use a torque wrench for everything!
@@James-tf7kn Yeah it's mostly TTI products that prefer forward, I'm sure he's got the data from running them in reverse but I think they do it just to give the manufacturer a chance to meet their overblown torque claims, I own mostly Milwaukee but if my wrench only makes 400 instead of 451, then I'd want to know just for comparison's sake.
Gots me mah new Dewalt dcf891b 2 days ago and love it for lug nuts! …Lowes stores on the West Coast started getting 2 at a time starting April 12th…$229
I have an interesting idea. Try testing the differences in torque to yield with an impact vs by hand. See if you can see the difference between the two. I know you should do this by hand but I can’t find any real information on why you can not use a impact and a paint mark.
Hey TTC, could you do a test sometime comparing tool adapters and how they effect power output? I have several adapters and they typically only have two electrical connections, which makes me think high output batteries, which many tools rely on to perform at their best, may not provide the max output compared to using a batteey directly with the tool. I.e. Using a Dewalt powerstack battery-> adapter-> Ryobi or Rdigid, and testing performance(then compare to existing torque numbers from your previous tests).
ever thought about going brand by brand and doing battery comparisons with the tools that gave the best performance in a set voltage range? example being top ranked Makita 18v tool of each type, test it with each each different amp hour battery compare the differences between batteries, repeat for each other brand...new chart to make instead of messing with hand tools.
I know these are measured relative to a IR 231H, but how would they compare to a torque wrench? If you torque the bolt with a torque wrench set to 250ft/lb how many ft/lb does the gauge show when calibrated to the 231H? It would be interesting to see how the impact wrenches perform when the gauge is calibrated with a torque wrench. To be as accurate as possible I think it would need to be torqued to approximately the expected torque of the impact wrenches being tested. i.e. if you calibrate the dyno by torquing the bolt to 400ft/lb and then measure an impact wrench that only shows 150ft/lb it wouldn't be as accurate as if you calibrated it by torquing it to 150ft/lb because of any nonlinearities in the torque/force curve of the bolt and nut. It would also be interesting to see how different size nuts and bolts change things when calibrated the same way.
Bro please test this with the new Max output batteries With the ridged . I've ordered one . Super excited . And u saying how the batteries effect the torque .. I'm like well now I might need those batteries too lol
Interesting find, “AEG” tools made by TTI seems to be basically rebranded Ridgid tools for other markets, same orange color and all. They still sell the 3aH 21700 cell battery under that name…wonder if it would work on Ridgid stuff
Yes it been listed under TTI for long time. In the 1990ies AEG had pro series battery tools that could match Makita in quality but was not so successful in competing with them. Very high quality German brand back in the days, AEG Turnamat washing machines from the 1960ies still work and parts are available, my great grandmother bought hers in 1962 and its still in service as a backup.
I know TTI majority owns Milwaukee but I was under the impression Milwaukee still made Milwaukee tools and not TTI. The new Ryobi and Ridgid tools take Milwaukee ideas. That's what the rep told me anyway. (I work at Home Depot in Power Tools).
That's definitely not true. Ridgid was the first to release a drill with a hydrolic motor in the Stealth impact and then they discontinued it and a year later milwaukee copied the technology.
I enjoy your content but I'm not understanding why your rank chart is not standardized? 4ah batteries across the board. And an 8ah stat below it. I don't seem like I'm getting apples to apples,beans to beans. And always looking for side remarks. I think this part can be done better
Our standard has always been a 5ah. Some brands don't make one. A 4ah is the same number of 18650 cells. Many brands don't make a 4ah. Can't make everyone happy
Do you think it would be possible to test the regular RIDGID batteries vs the Max Output on the impact wrenches??? I can't decide whether or not the Max output batteries would be a worthy upgrade like the octane batteries were on the octane lineup 🤔!!! Love the vids and thank you for doing these tests!!!
100% they are an upgrade. If you look at the new tools, they have extra side contacts in the battery terminal that match up with the side contacts on the 4ah battery. The old batteries lack these battery leads.
@@mattek519 Hey thanks for the reply! I am aware that the new tools have the extra contact points and so do the new batteries( as I have the old ridgid batteries from 10 years ago), but I was curious as to how big a power difference there is between the new regular Ridgid batteries vs the Max output as I recently bought the R86011B 1/2'' impact (formerly the Octane 1/2'') and am curious as to how it will perform with both batteries. :))
@@ryanchu2037 well, to be honest, the new brushless impact does not have the corresponding battery contacts to match the max output batteries, even though it's advertised as a tool that will benefit from using max output batteries. And as far as i know all of the octane batteries actually have the same side contacts as the maxoutput ones. That said, uf your octane impact battery terminal has the matching side contacts for the octane/MO batteries, i think your impact may be able to dish out more beans than the newer impact can.
@@flyyxmke I think a call to Ridgid hq is in order apparently this kit I ordered can direct from them I'm gonna wait a few weeks and see if I don't get a second one ready for pickup if that happens then I can sell it to recoup my losses on time for this heavy job I bought it for , but if not then I'm gonna get them to give me some kinda coupon I had to refund pretty much all my profit to the client because it took almost a month for this tool to arrive , however I'm glad that it didn't show up like that cause I would've gone ballistic if I opened it with no tool
that beeing said now that I have it in hands , what a beast I'm super glad I was able to get ahold of some octane batteries , to use with it I think I'm gonna try to aquire another 3 amp 2 piece and another 6 amp
Hey guys a bito of an unrelated question but I wonder why you have not done any tests of hilti power tools. They are super high quality stuff and preety popular among prfessionals here in Europe. They have some nice impact wrenches and drivers, it would be nice too see if they are worth the money.
Hey, this question maybe a waste of your time but I’m trying to figure out if the $19 protective boot they sell for rigors mid torque will fit the ryobi p262 and what ratchet boot I can get that will fit the pblrc25 ratchet. Trying to save money and make these tools last
I was looking to buy a couple more Ryobi 9ah batteries and they seem to be gone, are they killing them or is a product refresh about to happen? I have an extremely high draw situation that I just built and really need the 9ah over the very available 6ah. Don't want to go to the expense of switching battery platforms.
@@TorqueTestChannel The two packs are no longer listed, last time I saw them a couple months ago they were $169 for the two pack. As luck would have it, my device needs two if them to operate, it is 12 volts at 22 amps running through a 24 volt to 12 volt buck converter. It pulls on the dual 9amp batteries fairly hard. I may need to buy some 6ah and hang another two battery connectors on it. Or buy the knock off batteries that probably don't really have 9ah in them.
Sometimes you can change the zip code of the store you're buying from online and it will have a different inventory. My app shows 9.0 batteries for $159ea which is obviously a much worse deal than 2 for $169 but they're in stock nonetheless. Says they have 15.
You should have compared all Ridgid R86212B 1,300ft/lb 900 ft/lb breakaway on a different episode by itself. This video gets confusing trying to figure out what ridgid you are using.
I wonder if a new Milwaukee midtorque might be around the corner given the Dewalt's new dominance and the Ridgid's performance against the Milwaukee stuff. Really with Ridgid you are buying the extended warranty without being asked at the register. I've used their warranty a few times and it's hit or miss. They don't attempt battery repairs but if they can they will replace every broken part on a clapped out Sawzall. In that case the saw's performance still wasn't how it used to be when new. I ended up retiring the saw to home use since I had to wait the usual six weeks for the saw to repaired and bought a new one in the meantime. However when I smoked a 6 year old X4 drill they just sent me a new X5, of course that took six weeks. Your mileage will vary. Some guys warranting old Ni-Cad batteries are still getting new old stock Ni-Cad's as replacements lol
No video explains clearly what the 4 modes do in terms of torque vs RPM. Even the manuals don't clearly explain clearly what happens to torque with different RPMs...
![Snap On vs RYOBI HP vs RIDGID Mid-Torque Impact Wrench Head to Head [CT9015, P262, & R86012]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tHlwKjzuyJE/mqdefault.jpg)
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This is the new mid-torque: homedepot.sjv.io/e45W2D Find our rankings here: etsy.me/3G8j3QK. We just got the high torque, will be working on that this week! What are your guesses on how it will do?
Torque, who started TTC, is working in product development for Astro Tools who also make impacts (air). Always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
Why not the 6ah max output?
While using the new ridgid tools every day at work, i definitely notice a power difference between the 6ah and 4ah despite the two batteries being identified inside and out.
TTI I believe the Milwaukee M18 is $249/259 now depending on the retail store you go to.
Just bought this kit yesterday new from home depot with battery and charger for $170.
You should have compared all Ridgid R86212B 1,300ft/lb 900 ft/lb breakaway on a different episode by itself. This video gets confusing trying to figure out what ridgid you are using.
Ive been using the ridgid impacts in the real world for years at transmission shop daily and beat the crap out of them, theyve been great!! I own all the milwaukee line in the impacts and ratchets as well and the funny thing is the mid octane 1/2 gun actually outperforms new milwaukee 1/2 or 3/8 in bolt removal speed even though its listed lower power on here. Ridgid has a different hammer mechanism it seems and they can snap the bolts loose faster. I got rid of new 1/2 milwaukee mid torque cuz it was disappointing and slow. 90% of time octane 1/2 can take a whole car apart, otherwise I grabbed milwaukee high torque to finish the job. Ever since the high torque ridgid 1/2 came out and the new impact driver i believe the Ridgid line is the best out there. The power, the light weight and the warranty cant be beat. My milwaukees have parked themselves in a drawer
Great to see it's not a downgrade from the Octane! I still don't know why TTI scrapped the 21700 3aH in both the Ridgid and Ryobi lines, and only kept it for Milwaukee...
So they don't outperform and take sales away from their more expensive tools. Milwaukee tools and packouts are marked up 100s of %. We know this when they go on sale and because less than 2 years ago most of the packouts cost $20-40 less per piece.
Just for reference, the milwaukee gen 3 impact, drill, 2 x 5ah batteries, 1 x 2ah 12v battery, charger kit costs over $1300 AUD at the moment. I bought this exact kit 18 months ago for $650 AUD. That price difference isn't covid, it isn't sales or discounts, it's just TTI being dicks.
Makita have their 40v impact, drill, 2 x 4ah batteries, charger for $1000 AUD. And it comes in a systainer (cheap plastic box is always better than a blow moulded case)
That price difference (between makita and milwaukee) is almost 2 days work for a skilled worker on minimum wage.
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter i can see that being the case for ryobi. But TTI doesn't own Ridgid. They just make the tools for Emerson. You'd think Emerson would be telling TTI what to make for them.
@@wearsjorge55 - So do you feel that's a good deal or not? Milwaukee or Mikita ?
@@PayNoTaxes0GetNoVote I think both are a rip tbh but I'd go the makita it's a large sum of money cheaper for what makita claim is better.
you guys stuff is ALWAYS awesome!!!! But I have a request. I wore my OG Bauer 1/4" 20v Brushed out, and was MORE than pleased. When I went to replace i let the HF peeps upsell me to the Hercules 20v Brushed and since I unboxed it a year ago I have HATED it!!!! It didn't compare to the Bauer it replaced. Just replaced it with the new Bauer 1/4" 20v Brushless and oh my God, it is amazing!!!! Is there any way that you can do a comparo of the HF units so that we REALLY know what is what??? I would be more than happy to send both the Herc and the new Bauer each with charger and 5AH batteries, but as I said my OG Bauer brushed is caput so that one is out....I also own a few other brands that were rated way higher and way more $ than this new Brushless Bauer but I am floored at how damned good it is, and that is without factoring in the fact it is only $49.....Thanks for the effort put into your content
I want to see this
Yeah I want to see that too
I really would enjoy this as well
Would love to see this!
I second the motion of a test. I heard the same from many other owners of HF tools.
Just got to use the DCF891!!! Am absolutely in Awe and shock… my rusty suspension came out like they were little rip nuts
Can you buy ADC F891 in Canada
Now you know how Makita users feel every day. Smooth sailing, you will get used to it.
Where did you buy it from?
@@darinvee4980 Lowes
@@pflaffik The Dewalt DCF891 is waaayyy beyond makita level, and as if that wasn't enough there are rumours of a flexvolt impact.
Your videos are great, and just go to show that most of the time, the tool brand isn’t the issue, it’s operator error. As someone looking to purchase their first power tool set, I’m going with team Orange, as that lifetime service agreement is killer
Its great to see the new impact plays well with the Max Out bats! Was considering getting the older mid trq but not now.
Did you ever get it? If yes, how do you like it?
@@mike_t_007 Have not. Want it, just dont need it. I use the ridgid subcompact with a 4ah and 6ah bat. And if needed, a $12 HF 24" breaker bar works:)
Love the design of that new RIDGID IW
Right? It looks so clean and not like a transformer. Reminds me of hilti stuff
AEG = Rigid
@@CrimeVid then where’s the freakin OPE??
@@billymurphy3 Not understanding your acronym, but AEG have always been mid range tools, now made on licence by Techtronic Industries ( Hong Kong) as are Ryobi and Milwaukee. They will be made to a different spec than either.
@@CrimeVid OPE means outdoor power equipment
I used th-cam.com/users/postUgkx4ynqaujg7rZKFapA8s29kTpRszJGa3-K this for the first time today to replace the front wheel bearing on my rwd 98 dodge dakota. This had absolutely no issue removing or reinstalling the lug nuts and it took off the axle nut without any struggle. Sounds like it's got some muscle to it. Time will tell
I have noticed with the Octane Midtorque despite its lower tested output that in daily use it does as well if not better than some others in its class when removing fasteners. With a higher ipm it seems to heat fasteners crazy fast which I believes helps it a good bit.
The largest fasteners I have used it with successfully with were 1-1/8 headed 5/8 threaded lug nuts. This is about the peak of what it can do and usually grab the hi torque.
Your data is so meticulous, it’s highly entertaining. Definitely appreciate that!
thank you for testing this. black friday and cyber monday deals, u can get this for $169 with battery and charger at HD. i used your link to hopefully help keep these amazing videos coming!
Ridgid owners, rejoice! There is a new tool in town!
Nice clean presentation to keep it smooth. Guess they wanted to avoid chunky beans?
Here in Canada you can still get the Octane with a 4Ah battery for the equivalent of $150usd. Great impact for your income.
The new mid torque is $190usd for the tool alone.
There's an extra "6" in your title which might make it hard to find later. We're publishing a BN video about this today, and will reference your vid. Thanks guys!
Hey good lookin out Rob! Ridgid item numbers, always super intuitive
@@TorqueTestChannel I stopped at "Hey Good Lookin" and blushed.
Yo! This is pretty impressive!
Now Ridgid needs to convince HD to let them make a chainsaw
i was thinking about getting an adapter to make ridgid batteries compatible with the Milwaukee chainsaw.
Or you could buy a proper gas chainsaw.
That's odd, as there are AEG chainsaws, which is regional branding of the same product.
@@theVoyage I suppose we could always import one. Or just use a battery adapter
THE IMPACT RACE IS HEATING UP......... CAN'T WAIT TO SEE MORE OF THE BIG BOYS WHEN THEY COME OUT . THANKS TTC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just got the octane high torque before the run out. Hopefully the new max output batteries will be on par with the octane battery that is no longer available
The impact driver is great. Good size, high rpm and very powerful... Expected these numbers from the impact wrench!
This video is awesome. I’m glad you guy made this because I’ve been waiting to find out for a year now how these “max output” batteries hold up to my aging octane batteries. Glad to see they can hold their own…but to your point about them not performing as well with the older tools, do you think you could do a second run with the older Octane mid torque running the max output battery? Either way, thanks for shooting this. Definitely owe you guys a beer for this one
The channel men across the globe have always needed, but never knew we needed.
Did you ever test the 8ah batteries?
Just a heads up, you can get this mid torque impact with a 4Ah battery and (slow) charger for $77 right now from home depot if you configure it right.
The year is 2032. Mid range impact wrenchs achieve 5000 ft-lbs on no battery.
😂
Purchased te Ridgid mid torque kit with tool, battery, and charger for $150 at Home Depot at time of this comment. Ships next day free. Can’t wait to receive it.
Perfect video as I was looking into this gun and happens to be the kit. And thank you for testing with both batteries. Truly, methodical!! Love it.
Well I'm sold for the new mid torque and finally the cordless power ratchet
I just wanted to share something I recently saw.
I know some people prefer a detent pin style over the friction ring style, but I saw a video of a Dewalt Dcf899 where the anvil broke right at the detent.
Crazy idea here but what about the manual impact wrench like a swench? Would love to see how they stack up against the standard air/electric options
The new Ridgid midtorque really reminds me of the m18 high torque in a smaller package. Looks like a great tool, more professional. Now we wait on m18 gen3 mid....
Ridgid is the sleeper
Sleepers usually cost less :p
@@TorqueTestChannel i think you were supposed to have got a battery with the price you paid for the ridgid during this tool takeover event. Id double check
Orange is not the new red. Not yet, anyway!
@@jonathansherwood5841 i hope it never is. Orange is a better colour.
@@TorqueTestChannel
I have over 40 Ridgid 18V tools and I don't think I paid full retail for a single one. There's always deals to be had if you look for them.
Between this channel and shop tool reviews, I decided to buy this one.
Home Depot has a great deal on the friction ring version.
How has it treated you?
@@mike_t_007 i’ve only used it once so far, but it worked great.
I used it to help a friend change the tire on his truck. His lugs are torqued to 140 foot pounds. Even with the slight loss of torque from the adapter on my flip socket, it had no problem breaking them free.
@@DiligentDave1966 That's awesome 😎
I missed the crazy April Home Depot sale for $77 but got mine slightly afterwards. Still haven't used it used it but have been coming up with fun stuff around the house to use it with. It is powerful and goes will with the older high torque version of you can find one of those 🙂
@@mike_t_007 I don’t think I will ever really need a high torque impact wrench.
Honestly, if I hadn’t been able to get the deal I got on the mid torque, I probably would’ve gotten the Kobalt, the Hercules, or the Dewalt.
The new Dewalt is an absolute beast, and I already have a couple of Dewalt power tools.
By the way, I paid $169 for my Ridgid impact with the battery, a charger and a bag.
Will you best testing this with the 8ah battery? Or if the 8ah really matters at all.
Could you test the Kimo extended and standard ratchet? Been seeing a lot of good reviews from them and since I go to you guys for all my "possible buys" , it would be nice to see it tested against other ratchets. Thanks!
The last week or so before the new ones came out you could get that 1500ft/lbs one with a battery and charger for the same $200 that that cost
Its on sale again today for $199.
Great test/great channel. How about testing these in the different modes tightening fasteners? Many times we will snug or pre-tighten fasteners using an impact and then finish with a torque wrench. If we have a ballpark max torque for each mode this would make that process easier. Also, to be honest most home mechanics don't have a 250ft-lb torque wrench much less something higher so they (we=me) will likely use an impact and guess at the final torque. A hitch ball requiring 450ft-lb would be an example. I would say most have a 0-150ft-lb. Thanks! David
Im here for the squiggly lines! JK TTC is cool too
I just bought my first cordless impact wrench Rigid R86012K for $160
Has anyone looked at the Bosch GDS18V221N ? It’s a nicely sized mid torque that feels great in the hand. Lowes currently has a deal, buy the tool, get a 4.0ah battery and charger for free. Bosch doesn’t give much in terms of torque spec on it, just 221 ftlbs. Doesn’t say if that is tightening, max, breakaway, etc.
I’d really like to see a run down of air ratchets, 1/4 and 3/8
I was looking for a Power Stack at Home Cheapo. They had a few deals on power stacks plus tools. Just a power stack for $100 or with a tool for $150. Of course no impact wrench but they did have a driver
Still waiting on that 8ah Max Output battery. Originally it was supposed to be out last fall. Oh, well. At least Ridgid finally came out with a cordless ratchet! :)
Me too. Doesn't help that the ridgid power tools promotions for upcoming tools website lists the 6ah as "coming soon" still. They don't keep it up to date. That and they dont even have the 1250 in lb high torque hammer drill on the 2022 list.
Wish they'd keep up with things so i didn't have to walk in to home depot every single day asking if they're in yet.
It would be great to see the Kobalt mid torque compared to the Ridgid and Ryobi. Looking to get into one system for car work restoration ast home. Rachets and impacts. Recommendations???
Love this channel! In your TTC BCS could you stop doing "in their preferred direction" so we can compare on the same level? I have a 2962 and really don't care what it does in max forward for 15 seconds. Thanks, you guys are the best!
The whole point of BCS is to be "Best Case Scenario." If it's not done that way, it wouldn't be best-case. Also, you can't really go changing the definition of an existing test, since there's all this data collected using the definition. TTC could add a new test, though, I guess?
@@johnhawkinson Yeah no shit! BCS Batteries fresh off the charger in their preferred direction. Just saying drop the preferred direction and run them all in the same direction. I don't care about forward for 15 sec in an impact wrench unless I'm trying to break something, I use a torque wrench for everything!
@@johnhawkinson would just need to either redo a few tests on the limited number of tools that preferred forward or just add a note to them.
@@James-tf7kn Yeah it's mostly TTI products that prefer forward, I'm sure he's got the data from running them in reverse but I think they do it just to give the manufacturer a chance to meet their overblown torque claims, I own mostly Milwaukee but if my wrench only makes 400 instead of 451, then I'd want to know just for comparison's sake.
Gots me mah new Dewalt dcf891b 2 days ago and love it for lug nuts! …Lowes stores on the West Coast started getting 2 at a time starting April 12th…$229
I have an interesting idea. Try testing the differences in torque to yield with an impact vs by hand. See if you can see the difference between the two. I know you should do this by hand but I can’t find any real information on why you can not use a impact and a paint mark.
The Ridgid lifetime service agreement makes it a good investment.
You should also try the 6 amp max output.
Hey TTC, could you do a test sometime comparing tool adapters and how they effect power output? I have several adapters and they typically only have two electrical connections, which makes me think high output batteries, which many tools rely on to perform at their best, may not provide the max output compared to using a batteey directly with the tool. I.e. Using a Dewalt powerstack battery-> adapter-> Ryobi or Rdigid, and testing performance(then compare to existing torque numbers from your previous tests).
ever thought about going brand by brand and doing battery comparisons with the tools that gave the best performance in a set voltage range? example being top ranked Makita 18v tool of each type, test it with each each different amp hour battery compare the differences between batteries, repeat for each other brand...new chart to make instead of messing with hand tools.
A little late to it but I just picked up the kit with the 4.0 max output for $170
Looking forward to seeing you guys test an ingersoll 599 someday! truely putting all other impacts to shame.
Another great video, now I may of missed it but if the milwaukee 3/8 and 1/2" are the same gun how come the 3/8" is coming out on top?
Its a good question. Were not sure. Most guns read the same
@@TorqueTestChannel something to look into then maybe? I'd certainly be interested in seeing why
Where do you find a mid torque milwaukee for $219? There no mid torques in that price range in my area
Me neither, it's $249 where I am at!
You have to wait for when home Depot has the sales on them, that what i paid for mine online.
They still sell the 3 amp octane batteries at home Depot 👌
Love these videos. I'd like to see th Chicago Pneumaatic 7748 tested. I'd send mine but unfortunately I love in the UK.
have you heard anything about a Dewalt right angle impact? someone posted that they saw a card at a store for it.
the tri-light broke very early on my impact, probably why they moved back to the bottom mount useless light.
I know these are measured relative to a IR 231H, but how would they compare to a torque wrench? If you torque the bolt with a torque wrench set to 250ft/lb how many ft/lb does the gauge show when calibrated to the 231H? It would be interesting to see how the impact wrenches perform when the gauge is calibrated with a torque wrench. To be as accurate as possible I think it would need to be torqued to approximately the expected torque of the impact wrenches being tested. i.e. if you calibrate the dyno by torquing the bolt to 400ft/lb and then measure an impact wrench that only shows 150ft/lb it wouldn't be as accurate as if you calibrated it by torquing it to 150ft/lb because of any nonlinearities in the torque/force curve of the bolt and nut. It would also be interesting to see how different size nuts and bolts change things when calibrated the same way.
On my pin detent dewalts I just grind them down just a **** hair so they come off easy.
Bro please test this with the new Max output batteries With the ridged . I've ordered one . Super excited . And u saying how the batteries effect the torque .. I'm like well now I might need those batteries too lol
Interesting find, “AEG” tools made by TTI seems to be basically rebranded Ridgid tools for other markets, same orange color and all. They still sell the 3aH 21700 cell battery under that name…wonder if it would work on Ridgid stuff
Yes it been listed under TTI for long time. In the 1990ies AEG had pro series battery tools that could match Makita in quality but was not so successful in competing with them. Very high quality German brand back in the days, AEG Turnamat washing machines from the 1960ies still work and parts are available, my great grandmother bought hers in 1962 and its still in service as a backup.
When will someone (company) make a brushless 1/2" with a brushed aluminum shell, like a throw-back to the original air powered impact wrenches?
Hmmmm...might just be worth it...🤔
Nice work..looking forward to the high torque...👍
I know TTI majority owns Milwaukee but I was under the impression Milwaukee still made Milwaukee tools and not TTI. The new Ryobi and Ridgid tools take Milwaukee ideas. That's what the rep told me anyway. (I work at Home Depot in Power Tools).
That's definitely not true. Ridgid was the first to release a drill with a hydrolic motor in the Stealth impact and then they discontinued it and a year later milwaukee copied the technology.
@@mattek519 So there's probably a mix of both then.
Why would I pick this over the Dewalt other than weight/Price?
I enjoy your content but I'm not understanding why your rank chart is not standardized? 4ah batteries across the board. And an 8ah stat below it. I don't seem like I'm getting apples to apples,beans to beans. And always looking for side remarks. I think this part can be done better
Our standard has always been a 5ah. Some brands don't make one. A 4ah is the same number of 18650 cells. Many brands don't make a 4ah. Can't make everyone happy
Could you test digital torque adapters sometime?
Do you think it would be possible to test the regular RIDGID batteries vs the Max Output on the impact wrenches??? I can't decide whether or not the Max output batteries would be a worthy upgrade like the octane batteries were on the octane lineup 🤔!!! Love the vids and thank you for doing these tests!!!
100% they are an upgrade. If you look at the new tools, they have extra side contacts in the battery terminal that match up with the side contacts on the 4ah battery. The old batteries lack these battery leads.
@@mattek519 Hey thanks for the reply! I am aware that the new tools have the extra contact points and so do the new batteries( as I have the old ridgid batteries from 10 years ago), but I was curious as to how big a power difference there is between the new regular Ridgid batteries vs the Max output as I recently bought the R86011B 1/2'' impact (formerly the Octane 1/2'') and am curious as to how it will perform with both batteries. :))
@@ryanchu2037 well, to be honest, the new brushless impact does not have the corresponding battery contacts to match the max output batteries, even though it's advertised as a tool that will benefit from using max output batteries. And as far as i know all of the octane batteries actually have the same side contacts as the maxoutput ones. That said, uf your octane impact battery terminal has the matching side contacts for the octane/MO batteries, i think your impact may be able to dish out more beans than the newer impact can.
I tried ordering DCF891 they say it's all available yet any information when it's coming out in Canada
my octane impact finally came in after getting lost twice during shipping
I got a box and the paper work but no impact. The next one was fine.
@@flyyxmke I think a call to Ridgid hq is in order apparently this kit I ordered can direct from them I'm gonna wait a few weeks and see if I don't get a second one ready for pickup if that happens then I can sell it to recoup my losses on time for this heavy job I bought it for , but if not then I'm gonna get them to give me some kinda coupon I had to refund pretty much all my profit to the client because it took almost a month for this tool to arrive , however I'm glad that it didn't show up like that cause I would've gone ballistic if I opened it with no tool
that beeing said now that I have it in hands , what a beast I'm super glad I was able to get ahold of some octane batteries , to use with it I think I'm gonna try to aquire another 3 amp 2 piece and another 6 amp
Hey guys a bito of an unrelated question but I wonder why you have not done any tests of hilti power tools. They are super high quality stuff and preety popular among prfessionals here in Europe. They have some nice impact wrenches and drivers, it would be nice too see if they are worth the money.
We have, multiple
The max output battery really surprised me
i was able to find a special buy of the ridgid impact and there electric wratchet for 250 cad at home depot including two batteries
Are the older batteries compatible with this new impact gun?
Yes
Like always, great video.
Hey, this question maybe a waste of your time but I’m trying to figure out if the $19 protective boot they sell for rigors mid torque will fit the ryobi p262 and what ratchet boot I can get that will fit the pblrc25 ratchet. Trying to save money and make these tools last
The boot will not fit
@@TorqueTestChannel god damnit. The ratchet boot should though since the head is the same exact size?
Is there no boot that will fit the p262?!?
Thank you so much for this video سپاسگزارم
I want the Ridgid 12v back.... Not gonna buy 18s while Milwaukee exists lol
Hopefully for us red tool fans this means a new gen of impacts will come out soon
What is about Kobalt Wrench torque gun 24v?
Did you see duralast has impact tools
Now.
I’m still waiting for Makita’s new 18V 1/2” impact wrench. Rumors…1250 tighten, and 1550 nut busting break away.
Where you hear those rumors? That would be the highest tightening ever of any 1/2"
Also compare the other 2 TTI brands, Hart and ryobi.
We have
@@TorqueTestChannel cool, I'll def check it out!
I was looking to buy a couple more Ryobi 9ah batteries and they seem to be gone, are they killing them or is a product refresh about to happen? I have an extremely high draw situation that I just built and really need the 9ah over the very available 6ah. Don't want to go to the expense of switching battery platforms.
Theyve just been out of stock
@@TorqueTestChannel The two packs are no longer listed, last time I saw them a couple months ago they were $169 for the two pack. As luck would have it, my device needs two if them to operate, it is 12 volts at 22 amps running through a 24 volt to 12 volt buck converter. It pulls on the dual 9amp batteries fairly hard. I may need to buy some 6ah and hang another two battery connectors on it.
Or buy the knock off batteries that probably don't really have 9ah in them.
Sometimes you can change the zip code of the store you're buying from online and it will have a different inventory. My app shows 9.0 batteries for $159ea which is obviously a much worse deal than 2 for $169 but they're in stock nonetheless. Says they have 15.
Not the best deal but they're available...
www.directtoolsoutlet.com/product/P194
can you test a Hazet impact gun?
Do a R66211 review please
Very similar to the battery results from ryobi 2700 vs high performance
told you notifications are on
I am already invested in the ridgid ecosystem, so pretty excited about this one
you can currently get this with charger and (2) 4 ah battery starter kit for 99 bucks
You should have compared all Ridgid R86212B 1,300ft/lb 900 ft/lb breakaway on a different episode by itself. This video gets confusing trying to figure out what ridgid you are using.
Awesome video
So the mid torque rigid has more power then the rigid octane?
Correct
I wonder if a new Milwaukee midtorque might be around the corner given the Dewalt's new dominance and the Ridgid's performance against the Milwaukee stuff.
Really with Ridgid you are buying the extended warranty without being asked at the register. I've used their warranty a few times and it's hit or miss. They don't attempt battery repairs but if they can they will replace every broken part on a clapped out Sawzall. In that case the saw's performance still wasn't how it used to be when new. I ended up retiring the saw to home use since I had to wait the usual six weeks for the saw to repaired and bought a new one in the meantime. However when I smoked a 6 year old X4 drill they just sent me a new X5, of course that took six weeks. Your mileage will vary. Some guys warranting old Ni-Cad batteries are still getting new old stock Ni-Cad's as replacements lol
That's not really a fair score. New tools need new battery 🤷🏾♂️but I do agree octane for life.😍
Just bought mine on home depot for 160$ with a charger, 4ah battery, and a hammer drill. Im flabbergasted by the deal
Ridget high torque and battery on sale for 199
No video explains clearly what the 4 modes do in terms of torque vs RPM. Even the manuals don't clearly explain clearly what happens to torque with different RPMs...
I am waiting for the high torque hammerdrill and the 8ah battery. I check home depot everyday...🤕
"Lost". I repair FedEx trailers, you'd be amazed at the amount of empty phone, ammo, and electronic packages left inside.
@@evergreenrider i mean i check home depot every day.
Its not out yet