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Why not add a D grade? The officer was calm, but the detention, spotlight while driving at night, and trying to ID the passengers was way too far. I wonder if you'll actually respond to people asking for a D grade. Probably not.
In the scientific field, when someone says they used one of their sensory organs to measure something, we instantly dismiss any results because human sensory organs are not accurate measurement instruments. Yet in the court of law, an "eye witness" is considered sufficient evidence if I'm not mistaken. Just imagine if we made products for human consumption or interaction by simply looking at the volume of ingredients with our eyes or simply guessing at formulations: a lot of people would be dead. Shit is ridiculous 😂🤦
This was an illegal stop. This officer should have been disciplined and the charges placed on his record. To stop law enforcement abuse there must be a form of Malpractice Insurance required for all law enforcement officers. After a couple of payouts for abuse, civil rights violations etc... an insurance carrier will eventually drop the officers coverage. No insurance, no employment. No insurance no jumping from one municipality to another. Its a simple fix.
That sounds like it would work, but I think it would swing back the other way, to being unfair to the officers. Just last week I was scheduled a court date bc my insurance card was expired and 'dispatch couldn't verify my insurance' even tho it's paid for and current. End result, I show my updated card to the judge, and they drop to large supposed charge and charge me a $25 'court processing charge'. I was incensed. I didn't ask to be there, and a phone call would have sufficed with my insurance company. Anyway, my point is that wherever there are fees and insurance... (which personally, I hate anyway. No one should pay to deal with eventual chaos, being leeched forever until that inevitably happens and, whoops, your policy can't pay for that. I digress.) ...there are chances for corruption. We need a new, better system. Not the same one pointed at the police. Imo.
@@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty i hear what you are saying. Im just giving my opinion of 1 being a Black man and 2 being a retired Correction Officer of over 25yrs of service. I don't claim to be perfect but I tried to be fair, honest and to not take things personally. Those 3 simple behaviors kept me out of trouble and kept me from allegations, abuses of power and basically kept me honest. I know for a fact if you are honest you will not have an issue. If this officer was held accountable, especially monetarily, then im sure he would refrain from this type of behavior. Between Qualified Immunity and municipalities being responsible for lawsuits, it's no wonder why so many bad officers exist.
It fails in theory. Insurance companies will settle false claims to avoid lengthy court costs. So even though the insured (the officer) has a case he clearly would win the insurance will payout because it's the lower cost option.
Why would this cop get a C- while blinding an innocent citizen with his spotlight while driving and intending to pull over that citizen over before witnessing a crime? A verbal warning doesn't excuse that level of abuse.
The officer did not attempt to detain/arrest the driver. The officer did not detain/arrest the passengers. Meaning the officer is above on some level other bad cops. We should appreciate the former cop who set this uninformed one straight.
@@watcherenjoyer123 so even tho he racially profiled (and admitted to it inadvertently), and could’ve caused an accident, you say a C- is fine because he didn’t detain the guy? Just broke a bunch of laws to arrest someone for DWB?
@@astrumimitari7467 No, he seems like a cop who wasn't a piece of crap. Because if he used to do it to, why even question the officer for asking the passengers? You !diots lack common sense.
@@zayway63rd7 As NWA rapped in the song F Tha Police, even if they’re black, they get corrupted just like anyone else: “But don't let it be a black and a white one 'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top Black police showin' out for the white cop”
@@zayway63rd7 me either he was even questioning his partner" ok why are u asking for ID's of my passengers? i worked law enforcement once n i never had to do that. it was lil confusing?"
No. He gets an F for illegally shinning his light into their car, racial profiling and lying about clocking them over 30mph when the video GPS clearly shows him within a mile or two of the posted speed limit. And if it weren't for the fact the driver was a former cop with an extensive history in two different police departments they all would have been sitting on the curb, arrested and fined for nothing. We need to call it how it is.
@@loganpalmer5111 no one can say for sure one way or another what was going on in that cops head when he made that stop. Maybe it was racially motivated, maybe it wasn't. Considering the lack of grounds for the stop, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to this than just a cops stupidity
Racism is subconscious. If the officer had met and seen someone of a different race. Its very possible the situation would never have gotten as far as it could in the first place. It's not that people these days aren't right about things being racist. We've seen too much strange behavior to explain otherwise. It's that the generations that are asserting that things are not racist have not ever come to means with the type of beneath the bar racism that existed cira 1950 - 1990's and the evil that existed circa 1900 - 1940's and earlier. This type of racism permeated everything from morals, to education, to ethics, to outright logic all of it under any number evil thoughts dressed up to seem normal when in reality they are not.
It was a pace spot… not saying it’s accurate, but the practice is getting near the car and matching their speed for a period of time… and it is legal in most states… I’m also in no way, shape or form am I justifying this stop
An F is the worst grade so would cover the worst cases. This is bad and wrong, but it could easily have gone so much worse if the cop was shittier so the grade makes sense to me. If he detained the driver further or was more aggressive it easily brings the grade down. Lots of bum cops ruin the curve of acceptability.
You can see on the drivers Dashcam 28mph, Spotlight Blinded him, sees 4 black guys, does a rapid U turn, you were speeding, finds out he is an ex cop and it all of a sudden becomes a warning. Not speeding, ID for all people in the car and the spotlight in the eyes endangered driver. C is far too lenient.
@@dengar96 well but that should be made very clear then. Because he is using school grades you assume they somewhat mean the same thing, and F isn't just for the worst, it's for everyone who fails to reach the threshold of 50% to 30% right. A C- would mean like 60% ok, which is just NOT the case here.
I'm from the UK. I work graveyard shift so I go home on my scooter at 2am. Couple of weeks ago an unmarked police car cuts right across me and does a crazy U turn through a closed petrol (gas) station and emerges and follows me like 20ft from my back wheel. Well I don't like this shit at all (I don't know he's police at this point) so I open the tap and he switches on the blues and pulls me over saying I was doing 45+ in a 30. It's criminal that they can pressure drivers into doing evasive manoeuvres and then pull them over for speeding/dangerous driving etc 😣
@@Camberwell86: Did they actually give you a fine/points for that? I would love to see them explain why they were so close to you, and especially seeing that apparently an officer got done for going in an ASL "bicycle box" before the Highway Code changes...
@@fetchstixRHD no luckily I held my tongue and just played "yes sir no sir sorry sir" for 60 seconds and he gave me a warning and fucked off. He knew what he was doing, he knew he pressured me into speeding up. Didn't run my plate or ask for my licence/details, nothing. Asshole. 😕
@Goh Modley guy it’s be! I’m gonna try that shit. Drive past a car moving in the opposite direction. Guess their speed. Turn around, catch up with them and ask them for confirmation! Shit would be lit
@@PHOENIXQ2024 A visual estimation isn’t a guess. A visual estimation is based on prior experience and the first step used when running stationary radar to determine if a driver is speeding.
Maybe he was just looking for black people. Hence the shining of the light. Cop needs to be fired and never allowed to work as a Police Officer again. Mall cop okay.
Yeah, this is one of the few instances where I would accept the assertion that the interaction is almost assuredly based on race. He shined the light in the car, saw the brown people, and stopped the vehicle to fish. I'd assert that's why he wanted the IDs of everyone in the car, to try to score a warrant on someone.
Nah too much harassment for a BS stop and nosey ass questions already assuming they're up to no good. I say let it escalate so you can report it and press charges. Only reason they backed off was because they found out he wasn't lying about being a former officer. They get an F in my book.
How can you give them a C-? The cop illegally shined a spot light into on coming traffic, lied about their speed, racial profiled and then got scared when discovered he was dealing with an x cop! That is a well earned F in my book.
If this is an F then what are the more egregious acts of abuse of power ? For instance if this officer made false charges and brought the man into custody that would be a F. I think theres gotta be some sort of line crossed for an F or else everythings an F
He doesn’t rank them like that. If you’ve watched for awhile, you’ll notice he gives a decent rank if the situation doesn’t escalate too hard and they both leave the situation unharmed. I wish he would give an F for any abuse of power though.
I love how the officer is making small talk as he shines his flashlight in every pocket and cubby of the car he can find, desperately looking for something illegal to validate his stop
Well, that's what they're supposed to do under the "plain sight" doctrine. Mainly he's looking for any sign of a gun, especially when the guy is digging into that black bag and passing things over the seat and stuff.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS oh you mean the cop who shined a light into a drivers eyesight doesn’t want the other ex cop to pull out a gun . Because that would be what , cop on cop crime ?
@@Bigbank816 I dont have a degree or anything so I cant assume his motivation nor remember what video this even was right now... I'm just a TH-cam comment lawyer
I'm retired LE. This cop and others like him are part of the reason why LE in general gets such a bad rap. His actions were stupid. Kudos to the driver.
@@bluehills38 This is the real question. If you're former LE, unless you've done something to expose the horrible actions of the police, you're just as bad as the cop in this one.
These ain't no accidents, remember Eric Garner? And you are not a good cop if you cannot check your partner Skin color is why ya'll foul, all because Michael Brown I fear for my life too, does that give me the right to strike you down? Hatin' on God's melanin really thinkin' they better than When in the inside, we all flesh and blood with a skeleton They prejudice, they don't want us moving up like The Jefferson's - Montana of 300
As a former member of LE, were you guys not taught to do this? It seems like a systematic issue, particularly in urban areas. Minorities get pretext stopped at an insane rate.
Police need to STOP asking "where are you coming from and where are you going" because that has NOTHING to do with why they pulled you over and additionally only the driver needs to identify themselves in a traffic stop
@@reformcongress Yep. The problem is if the officer doesn't think you are cooperative can just say you were acting suspicious and keep you there for hours or detain you or search your car and at the end a complaint would probably be useless because in the police report he can just lie and say the driver was being evasive and nervous. Essentially if you have the luxury of time then you can fight for your rights. But police can infringe upon them with almost no risk of reprocussion because they felt you were being evasive even if you were just exercising your rights.
Yup. Cop had zero probable cause of speeding. Cop traveled 40 to catch someone doing 30 so no evidence there - and that was AFTER doing an illegal u-turn.
Literally, a case of unauthorized blackness. Not surprised considering a drivers license is a form of ID, and Corn-Pop Democrat says poc's struggle with things like that. Ooops, was that a little too accurate? At least it's historically consistent! Oooops, more facts. Sorry...
Former Cop: "I'm sorry officer. Why did you shine your spotlight in my eyes then pull me over?" Cop: "I wanted to see if you were black". Former Cop: "What?" Cop: "What?"
🤔I’m noticing something about a lot of police officers…when they say “thanks for cooperating” that just means thanks for letting us violate your constitutional rights to exist and allowing us to question you for no reason without getting mad and pushing back 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏽♂️
Answering the questions you constitutionally don't have to answer has nothing to do with protecting your rights. Being a juvenile vs an adult has a lot to do with choosing your battles. Guess what, we all have the *right* to be an insufferable prick at all times like you see in most of these videos. There's a reason it isn't exercised by everybody. Try it.
The officer acted the way he did because the driver was an ex cop, who probably told his passagers to remain calm and not say anything. If the person was not calm and collected, who knows what the officer would have done... F- for the cop B.S excuse of a stop.
All of these things are true... But F's are for cops who blatantly & recklessly violate Constitutional Rights and Rob people of their Bodily Freedom. If this guy gets an F, then it diminishes the meaning of an F when it's used to grade a horrible POS cop.
@@Preacher_. (creating a hazard)@@Preacher_. I disagree with ATA about the OPD grade, and apparently you as well, over this. The use of the spotlight in particular is egregious.
Estimating someone's speed doesn't sound accurate and shining his light in someone's eyes could have caused an accident. That officer should be reprimanded for almost causing an accident.
The shining the light part is true, but in some states, it's completely legal for a cop to pull over someone based on a speeding estimate. Only some states require laser or radar verification.
Officer gets an “F” for racial profiling , endangering a driver and lying for claiming the driver was speeding & quizzing to test if driver was truly an officer which had NOTHING to do with traffic stop
Remove racial profiling with statistical certainty, and once you pull someone why not do everything in your power to ensure weapons and drugs stay off the streets.
I've only been a viewer recently but for as good as these vids etc are I will agree some of the ratings are a little bit dubious at times in the handful I've seen already. I probably wouldn't go for an F though as some of the officers who they've graded as Fs have behaved much worse during the interactions whilst this one was fairly calm regardless of his motives but yeah, a C- is a bit high. In the UK exam boards can give a U for upgradable... F is considered a grade all be it not a very good one.
Bad advice. Assuming hostility even when not apparent is part of the problem. That's the same as every police officer assuming that every individual whom is being nice to them is a criminal.
@@josephcline3652 unfortunately though in this day and age you can't trust any officer! That is apparent. You should always be polite and cooperate with everything but still protect your rights.
I was thinking that as well. It blinded me through a video so I can imagine how it affected the drivers vision. This punk cop just wanted to show his “power” in my opinion.
Keep fighting the good fight, AtA! Until these public servants realize integrity and accountability are values not to be feared, you are needed. Thank you for your work.
Why should we keep fighting when you know the solution to these foolishness. Severely punish this behavior and things will straighten up. Those days without cameras I shudder to think about but now with cameras and in 2020s ?? Please please please.
@@d3l3tes00nkeyword here “asked”. Your passengers should have declined if this was purely a traffic stop and they were not suspected of having committed a crime. Just because a wrong thing happens, doesn’t make it good.
“Verbal warning” means, he doesn’t want to let him go by acknowledging he was in the wrong for stopping him and flashing the light. So… because an officer can’t be wrong, take this verbal warning bud.
The spotlight would be inconsequential to a judge if someone had a warrant and he searched and found drugs but he figured it wasnt likely there was drugs because nothing came back bad when he ran the IDs. He let him off with a warning because the spot light would have been problematic in a speeding case.
@@bmonthatipkul Correction. I’m giving my opinion as to what the cop was thinking and why he was employing the tactics that he was employed boost his numbers
The officer literally, actually, and factually broke the law by shinning his light. Misdemeanor or not he's a criminal, and he has a badge. There's no way I can see giving a criminal a C- as reasonable. Especially when he wasn't prosecuted and it's likely continuing to break the same law by shining lights into the eyes of drivers.
@@Mannydude96 that doesnt make someone a damn criminal lmfao. Robbing somone makes you a criminal..if u accidentally forget to turn your highbeams off are you now going to label yourself a criminal? Jesus you people are nuts..what a freakin ridiculous stretch to say the officer shouldnt have a badge based on this encounter. By this ridiculous standard it would be literally impossible to have police. You people that are such extremists make yourselves look like a fool
I was driving on I-94 at 70mph at night and a cop pulled up next to me and shined his flood light on my face. Besides the fact that it was disorienting, it startled me and caused me to look away from the road to figure out what the hell was happening. I couldn't believe they'd do something so stupid.
It happens because it works. Cops intimidate you into giving up your rights because people acquiesce. Keep rewarding the rat with cheese and he'll keep running the maze.
@Nic B They do. It's a thing. Same reason why TX plates way up north on I-35 definitely make an officer take a second look at you. If there's any PC at all for a stop, they'll stop you to check you out.
That happened to us in Panama City they tore the rental apart looking for drugs 🤷🏿♂️ eventually they let us go .. they said we were trafficking drugs but they found nothing n let us go !!!!
@@jakobmertens3142 Well, he did create a dangerous situation by glaring, he manufactured a reason for the stop, as you can see on the dashcam footage that the driver never exceeded 32mph, yet the officer claims (/lies) to have pace clocked him at 40mph, when he probably just speeded himself in order to catch up. Oh and, yeeeeeaaaaaah, he stopped the car because they were black. He illegaly requested identification of the passengers. And keep in mind that he clearly changed his behaviour after being made aware that the driver was a former police officer.
I think F is too harsh. If shining a light is an F, which is the worst score, how would you rate something even worse? If the officer unloaded a full clip into the car, that would be an F too. But obvious the latter is way worse, then a spotlight. If everything is an F, then scoring becomes worthless.
So every time a car comes at me In the middle of the night with their high beams on and blinds me it’s attempted murder? Wow, I guess almost everyone around here has attempted murder then!
@@thomasryan2679 If someone does that while a train is coming and the driver is blind with a car full of passengers than yes, it is attempted murder because its a possibility the train could be anything else.
Tell that to the PNW (Seattle area) drivers who drive with not only those HID lights blinding people in front of them but with their HID high beams on continuously. Such fun!
I said this in the last video, because people were harping on the grades then as well. If this was an F, what would it have been if the cop dragged the dudes out of the car and shot them? Also an F right? But that would be ridiculous to suggest they are the same. There's nuance with the grades for a reason and I think this one was fair
@@paddlerofrivers7413 well then your logic is fucked. How is the spotlight use and justification NOT part of the interaction? It's an F all around. Somebody doesn't need to be put in cuffs or be killed for that whole stop to be total bullshit
Endangering someone's life, such as by blinding them with a spotlight while driving, should be an immediate F, regardless of how "nice" they are during the rest of the interaction.
@@tito9107 No way. He could have known who was driving the car before he approached. Four young men in a car in the early hours would have been far more of an indicator.
This is horrific. Flashing a light in an on-coming car’s driver’s eyes is reckless and dangerous and doubtless unlawful. Where did the officer learn to do this? What is the authorisation? What does the police department’s policy have to say about this? A lengthy, unpaid suspension would appear to be an appropriate and salutary punishment - pour encourager les autres.
You are kidding right? He learned it from the the department that hired him. They don't care about authorization, and the policy is "don't get caught" when you do these things. Unpaid suspension? You need to wake up to reality. We live in a police state. These are the tactics they are taught, and the way they want them to carry things out. These aren't some kind of "one off" sort of accidents. He will probably be given a bonus. There is a bill in Florida to do away with the public's ability to video the police. Now why would that be?
@@darnellthomas8155 my uncle had a similar situation to this, cop flashed on his face and hes older so he swerved and the cop pulled him over and did a sobriety test and then gave him a ticket for reckless driving or offense, he brought it to court and won because the officer was fired for fighting another officer while on the job
it's bad but not that bad. straight road you can easily remember. I've had assholes keep their long lights on me around curves, and it's not an issue as long as you don't panic
Any ticket based solely on speed estimation would be very arguable but it's PC to pull you over and sniff for weed and run DL(s) for warrants etc. This kind of stuff yields arrests which propagates this behavior. I don't particularly like it but that's the reality, and it's legal.
@@kharltheblackbelt3762 Exactly. Good-faith interactions with significant errors get a B. Common or garden malpractice or incompetence gets a C. F's are reserved for illegal arrests and unwarranted violence. On this scale, this incident is a C. It's the kind of run of the mill bad-faith interaction that happens a thousand times a day in the US. It's bad for the public's trust in police, but it didn't cost anyone their lives or their freedom, and it won't cost the city/state a six figure settlement. Just business as usual. That's how low the bar is.
Like so many other people, I was raised to respect and trust the police. It breaks my heart to see the shady and sometimes outright unconstitutional acts police commit like in Many of the videos on this channel. I had considered a career as a police officer. I know there are still some good ones out there and I want to make a positive change in the field of law enforcement.
"visually estimated" that alone gives the officer an F. Without equipment, especially going opposite directions, you can't tell how fast someone is going with any accuracy. You can tell if they were going faster than you when they pass you and the air pressure of their vehicle hits yours, but that's really about it
ATA's grades are consistent. Good faith interactions with excusable mistakes get a B, malpractice and incompetence gets a C, illegal arrests, unwaranted violence, and slam-dunk 6-7 figure lawsuits get an F. On that scale, this is a C. Nobody likes it, but that's how low the bar is.
F for the officer for blinding the driver, breaking the law, and causing a potentially dangerous situation, I personally give absolutely no leeway for road incidents.
The guy running this channel is much too concerned with legal technicalities and not concerned enough with common sense. Going to law school tends to do that to you.
The spotlight was to see if the driver was black. The fact the car was full of black people just made it an even better hit. He was hoping to ID everyone in the care and hit on at least one warrant.
I mean, the windows weren't tinted and there was plenty of street lights. Don't know why he needed to know they were black to stop them by shining a light at them.
"We're gonna let you off with a verbal warning"...Google Translate: "I'm an unprofessional douche and was on an illegal fishing expedition". And this is the first time I wholeheartedly disagree with the verdict. This stop was a total racist bullshit. "I visually estimated your speed". Yea right, maybe if the guy was doing twice the limit. Maybe. No, he shone the freaking light, saw a couple of black dudes in a 30 mph zone and figured there's no way they're going 30. And if they are, they're up to no good cause nobody does, let's see what they're up to.
@Brandon BP That is literally completely false and entirely inaccurate lmao lets see a cop try to use that in court “I visually estimated his speed” is literally impossible especially going in the opposite direction, especially considering he was legit incorrect and the “”suspect”” was going the speed limit.
@Brandon BP I don't disagree that a trained eye could estimate a speed with a degree of accuracy. This bozo was no such trained eye it seems. I won't say it's impossible, but highly improbable that you could estimate a closing speed to within few mph (that's what the reality here was) when the excess would have been 2-3 mph tops going that slow. No, the cops will often use this stupid argument because if shit goes sour it gives a convenient way out: sorry, it seemed fast, my bad. It's bullshit, it's wrong and not worth antagonizing a good portion of the population for an off-chance of catching some stray criminal.
This "C" should be an "F". Cop was trolling, perhaps even attempting to cause a chase by flossing, and or causing a car wreck. You stated the law yourself about lights in windshields; yet he gets a "C". Wow. Honor your Oath had some great interactions with OPD.
If this was an F, that leaves no room to grade things worse when officers inevitably turn a stop like this into an arrest/beating/murder. I agree with AtA on this one.
What printed him to do that? Was he going to bully them around and then found out the driver was a former cop and decided to play it cool? We will never know for sure!
I strongly suspect the fact the guy was a former cop stopped the officer from taking that encounter any further. If the dude was a cop for two different departments for 8 years, you don't know who he knows and how that might bite you later if you escalate that stop.
The driver handled himself exceptionally well. Maintained control of his emotions even though he had every reason to upset. I hope he filed a complaint!
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn no sir. The basis for the complaint would have been the use of the flash light in his face which could have caused a car wreck. Did you miss that part?
you lose a lot of credibility when you give a passing grade to a police officer who lied about the speed of the oncoming car, shining a light into the eyes of an oncoming car and abusing his powers.
I agree. Though he lost most of credibility a while ago when he gave an officer an A- even though he was harassing a young guy for literally just standing on a sidewalk. Weird when the officer is black and the suspect white nobody seems to care.
I think audit the audit’s grading is skewed but understandable. It seems any interaction where the detainee makes it out safely and the officer didn’t escalate the situation is given a D-C range. So even though the stop was likely illegal, and spotlighting was endangering, in the end the officer let them go in a timely manner. If I were to do a rating system any abuse of power would be F, but that isn’t really objective.
One night we were sitting at our commercial shop with the overhead door open. A local cop drove by slowly 2 times 20 minutes apart and shined his spotlight in our faces for a good 10 seconds each time. He got really pissed when he tried it a third time and we had set up a large mirror so he blinded himself. He kept saying, "Turn off that light!", and we kept replying, "It's your light dipsh*t!".
C- was super generous here. If this officer had pulled over someone even a bit less cool headed, this could’ve escalated like wildfire. But great video!
@@jawadulkarim9498 I don’t think racial profiling and taking the rights away from an individual, as well as potentially trying to cause an accident FOR THE ACT OF RACIALLY PROFILING is deserving of lower than an F.
@@oceanwaves83 he told them the reason for shining the spotlight was to SEE WHO WAS IN THE CAR. That’s “TheAce” in the hole for racial profiling when you realize he saw 4 black passengers breaking no laws and decided to pull them over
While I agree with your sentiment, if he gave the officer an F, then what would he have given the officer if he'd been even worse? (And there's plenty of video's of officers being way worse than this, imagine if he'd screamed at him to get out of the car the moment he'd reached for his ID and then escalated the situation to the point where he shoots or tazers the member of the public?), that's not to say that he shouldn't have maybe been graded a D+ or something instead though.
I don't really know how those grades based on letters work (in my country we usually use numbers, normally X/100, with 60/100 being the passing grade), but as far as I saw, F is the minimum. In this case, I agree with Sinule, if we give an F to those cops, what would a cop that uses unnecessary violence have as grade?
@@thomasfplm I just think the argument that you can't give someone an F because they didn't do as shitty as someone else who got an F is absurd. The letter grade system is stupid, but that's how it works.
Let's call this what it was, "Racial profiling." ....That cop simply used his spotlight to see who were occupying that vehicle, saw black men and decided to create a bullshit reason to stop them. Simple. That C- should be an F. Love the vids. Keep em coming. 👍🏾
That Former Officer, and his Passengers deserved an AWARD, the way they handle themselves during the Interrogation. That was an Interrogation, not a questioning period. Former Police Officer deserved and AWARD, for his Professionalism. A+ Earned.
An award??? They answered every question that the officer asked and the only reason why nothing escalated, was because the driver was a former officer and the Orlando officer respected the Thin Blue Line
@@alexh8613 idk about it being respect as much as dude knew what they were and weren’t allowed to do so cop knew he screwed up. He knew if dude fought anything in court he would get his ass handed to him. Cops going up against civilians is one thing. Cops going up against lawyers and former police is another. Both can spell disaster for a cop when they practice violating rights on a daily. Eventually their luck runs out.
the driver was just afraid to get killed, thats why he talked with the police officer instead of remaining silent, he knew, as a former police officer, the way those "randoms" traffics stops can go, so he played along. Its sad to see that he understood the danger, he is a black man with tatoos, so he is a target...
Nobody should deny the facts, nobody in their right mind would pull such a stupid stunt as blinding an oncomming vehicle at night unless the intent was malicious. Clearly your right on the money, the rascist was actually looking to pull over anyone but a ghost
@KingCobraJFS it’s because there are actual studies about how these kind of situations are racist. During the day, when cops can see the race of the person in their car, black people are pulled over disproportionately to white people. At night it evens out because cops can’t see the race of the person in the vehicle. Why else would this dude be flashing lights into cars at night? It’s to see if he’s black because he can’t tell. We know he lied about clocking his speed. We know he lied about the light. It’s pretty obvious that this was racial profiling.
@KingCobraJFS Obviously not, but this didn’t happen to a white guy. It happened to a black guy and so we have to take racial profiling as a potential possibility when looking at why this officer did this. You keep talking about this hypothetical situation like it’s a gotcha, but it has nothing to do with this situation.
@@TheBlatchi Wait you think this police officer just happened to shine his light into the car and then immediately switch directions while lying about him speeding and asking everyone in the car for their ID and it had nothing to do with race?Yeah ok buddy.
Cop uses light to see “black” driver. Then lies and pulls him over, violates the passengers 4th Amendment rights “Deprivation of rights under color of law” and he gets a C-??? He should go to prison!!!
@@christopherscott8853 Because in every other video there's a slew of people complaining how heavily he leans against police, in favour of citizens. That duality shows an attempt to be impartial but also that some people will only ever accept when reality bends their way. All that said, I think C- for this officer was too lenient.
"Shining any light into oncoming traffic can be incredibly dangerous" Yeah I would argue tooth and nail there. Not only can it be incredibly dangerous, it is absolutely dangerous and I would argue it is intentionally attempting to cause an accident.
@@JohnDoe-eo8gi their spotlight is bright and blinding as fuck right in your face… that’s kind of the point, to be high powered so it can illuminate far and well. I’d bet if you went around with a 2000lm flashlight and blaring it into people’s face while they drove, you’d come out of it with charges. The likelihood of causing an accident, in this scenario, is slim, but that doesn’t negate the reckless and careless manner of action.
@@JohnDoe-eo8gi may* be dramatic. Let's start by correcting your typo. Yes, I'm petty like that. This is something the cop does all the time, which he made clear when he casually explained his reasoning to the driver. Even if he can't stop the driver for speeding when he wasn't, if he could get the driver to swerve, he could pull the car over for a DUI check. Using reckless behavior like that to create accidents and force a stop is incredibly dangerous, not dramatic. And if it was dramatic, Florida wouldn't have laws prohibiting those exact actions, which AtA shown at 6:48, incase you missed it. I don't know, maybe you're okay with car accidents and other lives potentially put in danger because of careless police.
@@MistaBaZ I think the part that could be considered dramatic is that the cop "is intentionally attempting to cause an accident." It is definitely reckless and careless, as well as dangerous, and the cop should be fired. But to say his intentions were for the driver of the vehicle to crash is absurd and, well, dramatic.
@@2BAMaster9 In this very video he points out that when bright light goes into your eye it scatters and makes the contrast on the road lessen. So yeah, all the light around u makes it hard to see the darkness on the road better.
I call that Racial Profiling. The Driver did an OUTSTANDING JOB at staying calm. I would have been pissed that the cop shined his spotlight in my eyes.
Why does this guy never use the grade "D" ? From the old school definitions: A= excellent B = above average C = average D = needs improvement F = fail I'm asking a legitimate question btw, not being snarky. I assume that he has a reason.
I think it is A = above average B = average C = below average F = failing A lot of schools use this grading scale too and to me it makes sense - makes for higher standards for people to require more to pass.
I've wondered the same. D's are super rare on this channel. Like, I get preserving F's for the beatings and killing and false arrests, but D's should be for minor laws broken. I'd use the scale: A - good officer, have a donut B - technically did his job and broke no laws, but was somewhat unprofessional C - Technically broke no laws, but made things worse by being there/escalated D - Broke a minor law or did his job abysmally (wrongful arrest, no investigation at all, covered for a worse cop, etc) F - Broke a serious law, such as assault or intentionally abusing powers
I have to say that I have a massive amount of respect for the driver and his passengers, and I think cops like the ones who pulled this man over should have to face some kind of consequences for bogus stops.
You can’t estimate anybody’s speed while you’re driving toward them. Plus shining that light could’ve caused an accident. The criminals are bad but the police are getting just as evil
Having seen many, many videos of criminals executing unarmed people while they beg, I would say no, the police are nothing like criminals. People need to stop exaggerating.
Thank you officer for such a kind gesture! You mean you're not going to give me a ticket for a false infraction I never commited?? I am so grateful to be part of a country full of trustworthy people in power. I mean, my mind and body are so at peace when I step out my door because I know you truly care about America and always doing right by it's citizens. I can trust that my safety and well being are always in your hand.
That was definitely a F!!! Shining his spotlight in the drivers face showed a complete lack care for his safety. It also showed an extreme lack of respect. This stop got a F before it was initiated and, to me, there was nothing the cop could have said or done afterwards to raise his "score." The ONLY thing he did right was letting the driver go with a BULLSHIT warning.
I had a cop shine his light in my car as I was driving before when I was younger. It’s a dangerous act on the road. Glad I’m able to learn the law by watching these videos.
The driver did an amazing job. I’ve seen the actual footage he posted on TH-cam- he said at the end it was a bullshit traffic stop and he was going to file a complaint. Does anyone know if anything came of it?
This officer was looking for ANY reason to stop and cite the driver. Even going out of his way to endanger the driver by shining the light into his car and interrogating him about his law enforcement career….sickening.
I've seen cops do way less and earn an F on your channel. This cop more than earned an F. Recklessly shining the light in the driver's eyes, a bogus "speed estimate", a likely illegal stop and also highly likely racial profiling.
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Have you ever thought about adding "D" as a grade for these interactions?
@@oceanwaves83 Just because it hasn't been used yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist lol
Why not add a D grade? The officer was calm, but the detention, spotlight while driving at night, and trying to ID the passengers was way too far.
I wonder if you'll actually respond to people asking for a D grade. Probably not.
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5:58 oh, a Warsaw-style bus and a Warsaw-style busstop
His ability to estimate speed, especially while he is moving in the opposite direction, is a lie.
Always is, judges love it.
In the scientific field, when someone says they used one of their sensory organs to measure something, we instantly dismiss any results because human sensory organs are not accurate measurement instruments.
Yet in the court of law, an "eye witness" is considered sufficient evidence if I'm not mistaken.
Just imagine if we made products for human consumption or interaction by simply looking at the volume of ingredients with our eyes or simply guessing at formulations: a lot of people would be dead.
Shit is ridiculous 😂🤦
There’s an argument to be that you can tell is someone is speeding, but estimating a speed is not possible
I bet he also thinks the sun revolves around the earth :)
How could you “visually” determine a vehicle’s speed if it’s coming towards you?
This was an illegal stop. This officer should have been disciplined and the charges placed on his record. To stop law enforcement abuse there must be a form of Malpractice Insurance required for all law enforcement officers. After a couple of payouts for abuse, civil rights violations etc... an insurance carrier will eventually drop the officers coverage. No insurance, no employment. No insurance no jumping from one municipality to another. Its a simple fix.
That sounds like it would work, but I think it would swing back the other way, to being unfair to the officers.
Just last week I was scheduled a court date bc my insurance card was expired and 'dispatch couldn't verify my insurance' even tho it's paid for and current. End result, I show my updated card to the judge, and they drop to large supposed charge and charge me a $25 'court processing charge'. I was incensed. I didn't ask to be there, and a phone call would have sufficed with my insurance company.
Anyway, my point is that wherever there are fees and insurance...
(which personally, I hate anyway. No one should pay to deal with eventual chaos, being leeched forever until that inevitably happens and, whoops, your policy can't pay for that. I digress.)
...there are chances for corruption. We need a new, better system. Not the same one pointed at the police. Imo.
@@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty i hear what you are saying. Im just giving my opinion of 1 being a Black man and 2 being a retired Correction Officer of over 25yrs of service. I don't claim to be perfect but I tried to be fair, honest and to not take things personally. Those 3 simple behaviors kept me out of trouble and kept me from allegations, abuses of power and basically kept me honest. I know for a fact if you are honest you will not have an issue. If this officer was held accountable, especially monetarily, then im sure he would refrain from this type of behavior. Between Qualified Immunity and municipalities being responsible for lawsuits, it's no wonder why so many bad officers exist.
This an absolutely fabulous idea!
@@CasualDandyAkaSqwrty Unfair? Potential for abuse perhaps? Like medical malpractice?
It fails in theory. Insurance companies will settle false claims to avoid lengthy court costs. So even though the insured (the officer) has a case he clearly would win the insurance will payout because it's the lower cost option.
Why would this cop get a C- while blinding an innocent citizen with his spotlight while driving and intending to pull over that citizen over before witnessing a crime? A verbal warning doesn't excuse that level of abuse.
Letter grade is carefully considered. Just accept it.
The officer did not attempt to detain/arrest the driver. The officer did not detain/arrest the passengers. Meaning the officer is above on some level other bad cops. We should appreciate the former cop who set this uninformed one straight.
@@watcherenjoyer123 once a cop pulls over a car, everyone in that vehicle is being detained. I'm not sure what you mean.
Because he thoroughly enjoys the taste of boot polish. And he should have just obeyed better.
@@watcherenjoyer123 so even tho he racially profiled (and admitted to it inadvertently), and could’ve caused an accident, you say a C- is fine because he didn’t detain the guy? Just broke a bunch of laws to arrest someone for DWB?
His composure while knowing what they were doing was completely wrong was impeccable.
Probably because he used to do it too.
@@astrumimitari7467 No, he seems like a cop who wasn't a piece of crap. Because if he used to do it to, why even question the officer for asking the passengers?
You !diots lack common sense.
@@astrumimitari7467 I’d hope not I wasn’t catching those vibes but he may have been one of them stiff officers
@@zayway63rd7 As NWA rapped in the song F Tha Police, even if they’re black, they get corrupted just like anyone else:
“But don't let it be a black and a white one
'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin' out for the white cop”
@@zayway63rd7 me either he was even questioning his partner" ok why are u asking for ID's of my passengers? i worked law enforcement once n i never had to do that. it was lil confusing?"
No. He gets an F for illegally shinning his light into their car, racial profiling and lying about clocking them over 30mph when the video GPS clearly shows him within a mile or two of the posted speed limit. And if it weren't for the fact the driver was a former cop with an extensive history in two different police departments they all would have been sitting on the curb, arrested and fined for nothing. We need to call it how it is.
Stfu it wasn’t racial profiling, I swear that’s all people can focus on these days. The cop was terrible but he wasn’t racist
@@loganpalmer5111 what was it then?
@@marlonl7805 It was a dumbass cop pulling over some people in a car😐
Just cause a white cop pulled over a black male doesn’t mean it’s racist😐😐😐😐😐😐
@@loganpalmer5111 no one can say for sure one way or another what was going on in that cops head when he made that stop. Maybe it was racially motivated, maybe it wasn't. Considering the lack of grounds for the stop, I wouldn't be surprised if there was more to this than just a cops stupidity
Racism is subconscious. If the officer had met and seen someone of a different race. Its very possible the situation would never have gotten as far as it could in the first place. It's not that people these days aren't right about things being racist. We've seen too much strange behavior to explain otherwise. It's that the generations that are asserting that things are not racist have not ever come to means with the type of beneath the bar racism that existed cira 1950 - 1990's and the evil that existed circa 1900 - 1940's and earlier. This type of racism permeated everything from morals, to education, to ethics, to outright logic all of it under any number evil thoughts dressed up to seem normal when in reality they are not.
"Visually estimated the speed"🤧 well I'll be damned, people are developing special skills...
Must be a super soldier like Cap!
evolution
It's a BS lie courts love to let fly as an excuse for them not doing their job. No proof? Oh just make something up!
It was a pace spot… not saying it’s accurate, but the practice is getting near the car and matching their speed for a period of time… and it is legal in most states… I’m also in no way, shape or form am I justifying this stop
Yeah, why the hell is he a cop? With those superhuman powers he could make millions.
You must be grading on a curve if that Cop got a C-. His stop was utterly ridiculous.
No cop left behind program
He should have gotten an “F” for blinding the driver alone. He was obviously looking for black drivers.
An F is the worst grade so would cover the worst cases. This is bad and wrong, but it could easily have gone so much worse if the cop was shittier so the grade makes sense to me. If he detained the driver further or was more aggressive it easily brings the grade down. Lots of bum cops ruin the curve of acceptability.
You can see on the drivers Dashcam 28mph, Spotlight Blinded him, sees 4 black guys, does a rapid U turn, you were speeding, finds out he is an ex cop and it all of a sudden becomes a warning. Not speeding, ID for all people in the car and the spotlight in the eyes endangered driver. C is far too lenient.
@@dengar96 well but that should be made very clear then.
Because he is using school grades you assume they somewhat mean the same thing, and F isn't just for the worst, it's for everyone who fails to reach the threshold of 50% to 30% right.
A C- would mean like 60% ok, which is just NOT the case here.
“When you recklessly blinded a upcoming vehicle, it should automatically be a “ F”
Specially if you’re a a police officer.
Pretty sure that's at least one crime there too...
I'm from the UK. I work graveyard shift so I go home on my scooter at 2am. Couple of weeks ago an unmarked police car cuts right across me and does a crazy U turn through a closed petrol (gas) station and emerges and follows me like 20ft from my back wheel. Well I don't like this shit at all (I don't know he's police at this point) so I open the tap and he switches on the blues and pulls me over saying I was doing 45+ in a 30. It's criminal that they can pressure drivers into doing evasive manoeuvres and then pull them over for speeding/dangerous driving etc 😣
@@Camberwell86: Did they actually give you a fine/points for that? I would love to see them explain why they were so close to you, and especially seeing that apparently an officer got done for going in an ASL "bicycle box" before the Highway Code changes...
@@fetchstixRHD no luckily I held my tongue and just played "yes sir no sir sorry sir" for 60 seconds and he gave me a warning and fucked off. He knew what he was doing, he knew he pressured me into speeding up. Didn't run my plate or ask for my licence/details, nothing. Asshole. 😕
an* not "a" in the first two uses
This man said “ I visually estimated your speed then got behind you and confirmed” 🤣. This guy is a special one.
@Goh Modley guy it’s be! I’m gonna try that shit. Drive past a car moving in the opposite direction. Guess their speed. Turn around, catch up with them and ask them for confirmation! Shit would be lit
@@PHOENIXQ2024 A visual estimation isn’t a guess. A visual estimation is based on prior experience and the first step used when running stationary radar to determine if a driver is speeding.
That sounds like something Mac from Always Sunny would say.
“I gave him the ocular pat-down and estimated his exact speed as he drove towards me.l
@@patrickmitchell2162 based on prior experience of "suspicious characters" driving Cadillacs speeding at 28 mph.
Yeah he visually estimated they were black with the spotlight , and let the cop fluff spew out of his mouth from there.
He's one of those cops who have decided that everybody is a criminal unless they can prove otherwise. He needs a new job.
Maybe he was just looking for black people. Hence the shining of the light. Cop needs to be fired and never allowed to work as a Police Officer again. Mall cop okay.
if the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to treat everything as if it were a nail- Abraham Maslow
That's practically all of them really. 😒😒😒
Can't just say he's racist huh
@@speed8701 I'm not going to that Mall lol
Yeah, this is one of the few instances where I would accept the assertion that the interaction is almost assuredly based on race. He shined the light in the car, saw the brown people, and stopped the vehicle to fish. I'd assert that's why he wanted the IDs of everyone in the car, to try to score a warrant on someone.
@@jonphoto5078 That seems more likely to me. Unless this cop was flashing every car he passed.
You look like Walter white
hoping that wasn't the case?
Nah too much harassment for a BS stop and nosey ass questions already assuming they're up to no good. I say let it escalate so you can report it and press charges. Only reason they backed off was because they found out he wasn't lying about being a former officer. They get an F in my book.
@@jonphoto5078 Even with benefit of the doubt, the cop was clearly on a fishing trip. I'd have to stretch into next week to see your point of view.
He profiled them the second he shined that light to see who was inside
That's all it was , a modern day shakedown.
BING🎯
That part
Facts smh all bad
He definitely did!
How can you give them a C-? The cop illegally shined a spot light into on coming traffic, lied about their speed, racial profiled and then got scared when discovered he was dealing with an x cop! That is a well earned F in my book.
If this is an F then what are the more egregious acts of abuse of power ? For instance if this officer made false charges and brought the man into custody that would be a F. I think theres gotta be some sort of line crossed for an F or else everythings an F
@@ZebraKatzWhereItsAt F isn't based on magnitude of offense. It's based on what wasn't done.
He doesn’t rank them like that. If you’ve watched for awhile, you’ll notice he gives a decent rank if the situation doesn’t escalate too hard and they both leave the situation unharmed. I wish he would give an F for any abuse of power though.
Ignoring the racial shit and all of that other stuff. Shining the fucking spotlight into oncoming traffic is automatic F extremely dangerous.
@@jonahmoran3751 That’s fair, should’ve brought his grade down a lot just for that.
I love how the officer is making small talk as he shines his flashlight in every pocket and cubby of the car he can find, desperately looking for something illegal to validate his stop
Well, that's what they're supposed to do under the "plain sight" doctrine. Mainly he's looking for any sign of a gun, especially when the guy is digging into that black bag and passing things over the seat and stuff.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS oh you mean the cop who shined a light into a drivers eyesight doesn’t want the other ex cop to pull out a gun . Because that would be what , cop on cop crime ?
@@Bigbank816 I dont have a degree or anything so I cant assume his motivation nor remember what video this even was right now... I'm just a TH-cam comment lawyer
I saw that too.
@@THRASHMETALFUNRIFFS ooh you’re self aware. That’s edgy.
I'm retired LE. This cop and others like him are part of the reason why LE in general gets such a bad rap. His actions were stupid. Kudos to the driver.
And may I ask what steps did you take to expose criminal pigs 🐖 and how many cops did you arrest?
@@bluehills38 This is the real question. If you're former LE, unless you've done something to expose the horrible actions of the police, you're just as bad as the cop in this one.
These ain't no accidents, remember Eric Garner?
And you are not a good cop if you cannot check your partner
Skin color is why ya'll foul, all because Michael Brown
I fear for my life too, does that give me the right to strike you down?
Hatin' on God's melanin really thinkin' they better than
When in the inside, we all flesh and blood with a skeleton
They prejudice, they don't want us moving up like The Jefferson's - Montana of 300
As a former member of LE, were you guys not taught to do this? It seems like a systematic issue, particularly in urban areas. Minorities get pretext stopped at an insane rate.
Cops don’t *get* a bad rap- they EARN it.
Driver: How do you know how fast i was going?
Cop: I eyeballed it 💪
With his super hero radar eyes of course 🤣
And the the cop gave them a verbal warning about the speeding, when they were not even speeding.
@@knutsenneundorf116 to hide how often the cop does these 'fishing' stops.
Saw he was black
You can contest that in court almost always if the judge have half a brain because that is not valid evidence.
Police need to STOP asking "where are you coming from and where are you going" because that has NOTHING to do with why they pulled you over and additionally only the driver needs to identify themselves in a traffic stop
And nobody should answer and say that under the fifth amendment protections, there is no need or requirement to answer any questions.
That’s a tactic to get them talking so they can possibly self-incriminate 🙄 still trash but yeah
@@reformcongress Yep. The problem is if the officer doesn't think you are cooperative can just say you were acting suspicious and keep you there for hours or detain you or search your car and at the end a complaint would probably be useless because in the police report he can just lie and say the driver was being evasive and nervous.
Essentially if you have the luxury of time then you can fight for your rights. But police can infringe upon them with almost no risk of reprocussion because they felt you were being evasive even if you were just exercising your rights.
@@josephkerrigan733 they are paid for their time Infringing on rights, which is probably why they don’t care lmao
@@kingofgrim4761 100%
They get an F. They weren't speeding and they shined him.
Yup. Cop had zero probable cause of speeding. Cop traveled 40 to catch someone doing 30 so no evidence there - and that was AFTER doing an illegal u-turn.
Yep.. he's a dumb guy that officer. He's putting people in danger and gets a C?? What's that stand for; CRIMINAL??
Right
I'm 100% sure he used his lights to confirm that the driver was black and then proceeded to stop him. Because he's black.
The irony is, if they would have actually been speeding, blinding them would be even more of a problem.
"I wanted to see who was driving" - yeah, I bet you did
right! smh
He shone the light to see how much would be absorbed or reflected by the skin.
Exactly!
Literally, a case of unauthorized blackness. Not surprised considering a drivers license is a form of ID, and Corn-Pop Democrat says poc's struggle with things like that.
Ooops, was that a little too accurate? At least it's historically consistent! Oooops, more facts. Sorry...
Black person! SCORE!
He flashed the light to see what color he was. That flash was ridiculously wrong. I've never heard of a cop doing that.
A few have been recorded in Bakersfield CA doing them last year and this year to live streamers chasing police calls
Former Cop: "I'm sorry officer. Why did you shine your spotlight in my eyes then pull me over?"
Cop: "I wanted to see if you were black".
Former Cop: "What?"
Cop: "What?"
He’s literally saying it without saying it and The former cop is like “yeah.. right”. Lmaoo complete BS
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Also Cop: "Did I stutter?"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
🤔I’m noticing something about a lot of police officers…when they say “thanks for cooperating” that just means thanks for letting us violate your constitutional rights to exist and allowing us to question you for no reason without getting mad and pushing back 🤦🏾♂️🤷🏽♂️
I NEVER say thank you and those niceties at the end. Thanks for what? Youre welcome for what? Wasting my time?
It's called being smart. If you really have nothing to hide it's preferable to endure cop entitlement and stupidity than escalating the situation.
Answering the questions you constitutionally don't have to answer has nothing to do with protecting your rights. Being a juvenile vs an adult has a lot to do with choosing your battles. Guess what, we all have the *right* to be an insufferable prick at all times like you see in most of these videos. There's a reason it isn't exercised by everybody. Try it.
Exactly
@@Nifava with that mentality nothing will change.
The officer acted the way he did because the driver was an ex cop, who probably told his passagers to remain calm and not say anything. If the person was not calm and collected, who knows what the officer would have done...
F- for the cop B.S excuse of a stop.
All of these things are true... But F's are for cops who blatantly & recklessly violate Constitutional Rights and Rob people of their Bodily Freedom.
If this guy gets an F, then it diminishes the meaning of an F when it's used to grade a horrible POS cop.
And if the driver was white and old, bet he would not have been stopped.
@@goatmealcookies7421 Good to see critical logical thought being applied and not weird racial bias 🙄
The car was speeding, so how is that a BS Stop?
@@Preacher_. (creating a hazard)@@Preacher_.
I disagree with ATA about the OPD grade, and apparently you as well, over this. The use of the spotlight in particular is egregious.
Estimating someone's speed doesn't sound accurate and shining his light in someone's eyes could have caused an accident. That officer should be reprimanded for almost causing an accident.
The shining the light part is true, but in some states, it's completely legal for a cop to pull over someone based on a speeding estimate. Only some states require laser or radar verification.
Officer gets an “F” for racial profiling , endangering a driver and lying for claiming the driver was speeding & quizzing to test if driver was truly an officer which had NOTHING to do with traffic stop
Agreed 100%. But you left out IDing the passengers who had no legal obligation to do so. This cop was absolutely lying and fishing.
absolutely
The phrase racial profiling gets used and abused way too much, but this undoubtedly is a case of it.
Remove racial profiling with statistical certainty, and once you pull someone why not do everything in your power to ensure weapons and drugs stay off the streets.
@@coralcannion005 thanks for confirming flat out when nothing else could be the reason to then cal it racism
C-? He literally could’ve caused an accident and racially profiled a man. This is easily a F- for the officer.
I agree
I concur lol
I've only been a viewer recently but for as good as these vids etc are I will agree some of the ratings are a little bit dubious at times in the handful I've seen already. I probably wouldn't go for an F though as some of the officers who they've graded as Fs have behaved much worse during the interactions whilst this one was fairly calm regardless of his motives but yeah, a C- is a bit high.
In the UK exam boards can give a U for upgradable... F is considered a grade all be it not a very good one.
@@V8HiluxZX6R He def gave F for much less
That’s what I was thinking. Simply, because it was dangerous and he could have caused an accident.
This cop is so good he can see how fast you are going from 200 feet away at night while you are heading towards him. Press X to doubt.
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😂😂😂 press “X”
That's robo cop 😂😂😂
X? You mean F12?
F12
Imagine how it would've turn out if he never told them he was a former cop.
Always be on your toes with the "friendly" cop.
That's the best advice you can give a kid in this f*cked up world
Their only friendly so your comfortable enough to give em info.. anything to throw you in a cage... anything at all.
He is "acting" to manipulate you to drop your guard and talk with him. "Anything you say can and WILL be used against you.
Bad advice. Assuming hostility even when not apparent is part of the problem. That's the same as every police officer assuming that every individual whom is being nice to them is a criminal.
@@josephcline3652 unfortunately though in this day and age you can't trust any officer! That is apparent. You should always be polite and cooperate with everything but still protect your rights.
The cop should be charged with reckless endangerment among other things.
A bit too much if you ask me. It ended with no one getting angry or going to jail. He didn't even abuse his power like a lot of officers do.
@@Koi_Swirl Shining a light in the driver’s face while he’s driving is reckless and endangering.
Ok there numnuts
I agreed to charge the cop, but if there's no complaint theres no reason to charge him, no one's hurt in the first place
@@pjcasio6381 yah…I mean you get a ticket if your not wearing your seatbelt…it doesn’t matter if you weren’t in an accident
That cop easily could have caused an accident by using his spotlight to blind drivers head on
I was thinking that as well. It blinded me through a video so I can imagine how it affected the drivers vision. This punk cop just wanted to show his “power” in my opinion.
I would’ve told the cop I needed an ambulance
He needed to check if the driver was black
@Morton's Toe Each grade has conditions
The cop was nice enough to admit that he blinds drivers as his standard practice!
Keep fighting the good fight, AtA! Until these public servants realize integrity and accountability are values not to be feared, you are needed. Thank you for your work.
Was the term "Public Servants" meant sarcastically?
😂😂😂😂😂 ya this is making big change. 😂😂😂😂. Wait for it
Why should we keep fighting when you know the solution to these foolishness. Severely punish this behavior and things will straighten up. Those days without cameras I shudder to think about but now with cameras and in 2020s ?? Please please please.
The cop is asking him all those questions about his career to keep him distracted while the other cop violates the rights of his passengers.
Exactly!!! 👏🏿
Passengers should have pretended to be deaf
Any time I've ever been pulled over with others for speeding or a light out, everyone is asked to give their ID.
@@d3l3tes00n 🧢
@@d3l3tes00nkeyword here “asked”. Your passengers should have declined if this was purely a traffic stop and they were not suspected of having committed a crime. Just because a wrong thing happens, doesn’t make it good.
“Verbal warning” means, he doesn’t want to let him go by acknowledging he was in the wrong for stopping him and flashing the light. So… because an officer can’t be wrong, take this verbal warning bud.
The spotlight would be inconsequential to a judge if someone had a warrant and he searched and found drugs but he figured it wasnt likely there was drugs because nothing came back bad when he ran the IDs. He let him off with a warning because the spot light would have been problematic in a speeding case.
@@theetilesmith flashing a strong light directly at a driver eyes is unlawful.
@@bmonthatipkul absolutely.
@@bmonthatipkul I’m explaining the cops mentality not agreeing with him. Pretextual stopped and racial profiling are equally unlawful
@@bmonthatipkul Correction. I’m giving my opinion as to what the cop was thinking and why he was employing the tactics that he was employed boost his numbers
The officer literally, actually, and factually broke the law by shinning his light. Misdemeanor or not he's a criminal, and he has a badge. There's no way I can see giving a criminal a C- as reasonable. Especially when he wasn't prosecuted and it's likely continuing to break the same law by shining lights into the eyes of drivers.
lmao. "criminal"
@@Broletariatt96 it's illegal...
Sorry I'm ignorant on this. Are you talking about shining his light in people's faces or what are you talking about?
@@Mannydude96 that doesnt make someone a damn criminal lmfao. Robbing somone makes you a criminal..if u accidentally forget to turn your highbeams off are you now going to label yourself a criminal? Jesus you people are nuts..what a freakin ridiculous stretch to say the officer shouldnt have a badge based on this encounter. By this ridiculous standard it would be literally impossible to have police. You people that are such extremists make yourselves look like a fool
@Nic B yes it is.
I was driving on I-94 at 70mph at night and a cop pulled up next to me and shined his flood light on my face. Besides the fact that it was disorienting, it startled me and caused me to look away from the road to figure out what the hell was happening. I couldn't believe they'd do something so stupid.
The old " They are driving through our state in a rental car" " Let's fish for a drug bust" B.S
It happens because it works. Cops intimidate you into giving up your rights because people acquiesce. Keep rewarding the rat with cheese and he'll keep running the maze.
@Nic B They do. It's a thing. Same reason why TX plates way up north on I-35 definitely make an officer take a second look at you. If there's any PC at all for a stop, they'll stop you to check you out.
Never mind that they are spending money and stimulating the economy of the area.
That happened to us in Panama City they tore the rental apart looking for drugs 🤷🏿♂️ eventually they let us go .. they said we were trafficking drugs but they found nothing n let us go !!!!
Officers deserve an F. Everything was done poorly.
nah, I'd reserve the F for the officers that completely escalate a situation, eleading to an arrest and violence
@@jakobmertens3142 These cops were trying to escalate to violence and arrest, they even failed at that too.
All we have to do is just obey, more so if one is of color Ahjahaja!!!
@@jakobmertens3142
Well, he did create a dangerous situation by glaring, he manufactured a reason for the stop, as you can see on the dashcam footage that the driver never exceeded 32mph, yet the officer claims (/lies) to have pace clocked him at 40mph, when he probably just speeded himself in order to catch up.
Oh and, yeeeeeaaaaaah, he stopped the car because they were black.
He illegaly requested identification of the passengers.
And keep in mind that he clearly changed his behaviour after being made aware that the driver was a former police officer.
I think F is too harsh. If shining a light is an F, which is the worst score, how would you rate something even worse? If the officer unloaded a full clip into the car, that would be an F too. But obvious the latter is way worse, then a spotlight. If everything is an F, then scoring becomes worthless.
I’d like to see the last calibration certificate for the cop’s eyes that allows him to ”visually identify speed”
Red and lowered cars appear to be going faster.
@@chrislambe400 “the more expensive the car the faster it’s moving” (Newton’s 22nd law of motion)
Sadly there are laws granting them this authority in some states. It’s disgusting.
Do he ware glasses 👓 ..........
Also at night… I guess they want you to believe they receive extra special night vision training that helps them estimate speed in the dark
Blinding someone in a car full of people is attempted murder
Damn you saying I can be tried for attempted murder because I left my brights on
So every time a car comes at me In the middle of the night with their high beams on and blinds me it’s attempted murder? Wow, I guess almost everyone around here has attempted murder then!
@@Secretguy2078 u should be that’s a dumbass thing to do
@@thomasryan2679 If someone does that while a train is coming and the driver is blind with a car full of passengers than yes, it is attempted murder because its a possibility the train could be anything else.
Tell that to the PNW (Seattle area) drivers who drive with not only those HID lights blinding people in front of them but with their HID high beams on continuously.
Such fun!
Really? C- for potentially causing a traffic fatality? No... More like "F"
Ikr. I was like wut?! Only a C-?
My friend tried arguing with me saying it doesn’t matter as long as you’d drive straight. And I’m like dude what if they have epilepsy
I said this in the last video, because people were harping on the grades then as well. If this was an F, what would it have been if the cop dragged the dudes out of the car and shot them? Also an F right? But that would be ridiculous to suggest they are the same. There's nuance with the grades for a reason and I think this one was fair
The cops interaction with the driver was a C-, but the use of spotlight and justification for its use is an F.
Out of all the comments I have read I agree with yours the most. 👍
@@paddlerofrivers7413 well then your logic is fucked. How is the spotlight use and justification NOT part of the interaction? It's an F all around. Somebody doesn't need to be put in cuffs or be killed for that whole stop to be total bullshit
"Visually estimated your speed"
Did he also give him an ocular pat down to determine if he was armed?
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It's Always Sunny, nice pull! 😂😂😂
This guy had excellent composure and situational awareness during the stop. He probably already determined the outcome had he not payed their game.
Endangering someone's life, such as by blinding them with a spotlight while driving, should be an immediate F, regardless of how "nice" they are during the rest of the interaction.
He was only pretending to be nice. He was itching to give an a$$ whooping, but unfortunately the situation didn't escalate to his liking.
Pfft he got nice after he got asked questions for his stupidity and that the victim was a former cop.
Sounds like the driver has a good case for a "driving while black" lawsuit.
Yeah not everything is automatically going to be a successful lawsuit there buddy
How?
What exactly points to this being racially motivated?
Why on earth does everybody assume this has to do with race?
@@bighands69 cuz cop racial profiling exists
@@tito9107
No way. He could have known who was driving the car before he approached. Four young men in a car in the early hours would have been far more of an indicator.
This is horrific. Flashing a light in an on-coming car’s driver’s eyes is reckless and dangerous and doubtless unlawful. Where did the officer learn to do this? What is the authorisation? What does the police department’s policy have to say about this? A lengthy, unpaid suspension would appear to be an appropriate and salutary punishment - pour encourager les autres.
You are kidding right? He learned it from the the department that hired him. They don't care about authorization, and the policy is "don't get caught" when you do these things. Unpaid suspension? You need to wake up to reality. We live in a police state. These are the tactics they are taught, and the way they want them to carry things out. These aren't some kind of "one off" sort of accidents. He will probably be given a bonus. There is a bill in Florida to do away with the public's ability to video the police. Now why would that be?
I've never seen a police officer do that while your driving. They usually will do it while your vehicle not moving.
@@darnellthomas8155 my uncle had a similar situation to this, cop flashed on his face and hes older so he swerved and the cop pulled him over and did a sobriety test and then gave him a ticket for reckless driving or offense, he brought it to court and won because the officer was fired for fighting another officer while on the job
it's bad but not that bad. straight road you can easily remember. I've had assholes keep their long lights on me around curves, and it's not an issue as long as you don't panic
Got flashed recently at around midnight, i could literally not see properly for like 10 seconds, it should be illegal...
You could tell the moment the detained driver said “I used to be a cop” they started asking questions hoping to get a “impersonating a police officer”
He couldn’t prove he was speeding. He didn’t want to look bad in court and that is why there was no ticket .
Any ticket based solely on speed estimation would be very arguable but it's PC to pull you over and sniff for weed and run DL(s) for warrants etc. This kind of stuff yields arrests which propagates this behavior. I don't particularly like it but that's the reality, and it's legal.
Are you sure profiling is legal!
Not arresting them does not justify a "C", total F!
He's grading on a curve.
Wouldn't an f be harming the suspects
It has gotten so bad nowadays that when cops dont kill or arrest it is seen as a win. That is horrible.
@@kharltheblackbelt3762 Exactly.
Good-faith interactions with significant errors get a B.
Common or garden malpractice or incompetence gets a C.
F's are reserved for illegal arrests and unwarranted violence.
On this scale, this incident is a C. It's the kind of run of the mill bad-faith interaction that happens a thousand times a day in the US. It's bad for the public's trust in police, but it didn't cost anyone their lives or their freedom, and it won't cost the city/state a six figure settlement. Just business as usual.
That's how low the bar is.
every cop needs to see every one of these videos and then have to write and essay about what they learned and how they feel about what they saw.
You are absolutely right and if they can’t identify the mistake, they should be excused from the force.
Exactly
You should do the same!!
@@m4aus445 they'd have to be asleep to not find the mistake the officers make when they're literally pointed out in the video.
@@Koi_Swirl huh?
Like so many other people, I was raised to respect and trust the police. It breaks my heart to see the shady and sometimes outright unconstitutional acts police commit like in Many of the videos on this channel. I had considered a career as a police officer. I know there are still some good ones out there and I want to make a positive change in the field of law enforcement.
Don't do it. They will corrupt you too.
"visually estimated" that alone gives the officer an F. Without equipment, especially going opposite directions, you can't tell how fast someone is going with any accuracy. You can tell if they were going faster than you when they pass you and the air pressure of their vehicle hits yours, but that's really about it
"Why did you shine the light in my face while I was driving?"
"Just wanted to test that theory about how Princess Diana's driver crashed."
Lol
😂😂😂😂
haha followed by "see? I KNEW it was a conspiracy" lol
Harshly hilarious 😂
I’m with everyone else here, the cop gets an “F”
This station has been getting more and more nicer to cops
What if they would have ticketed or arrested them. F being the worst, if there is a worst situation you can't really give an F.
@@505Goat of course you can. The situation can always be worse but that doesnt mean the officer didnt fail miserably in the video.
ATA's grades are consistent. Good faith interactions with excusable mistakes get a B, malpractice and incompetence gets a C, illegal arrests, unwaranted violence, and slam-dunk 6-7 figure lawsuits get an F.
On that scale, this is a C. Nobody likes it, but that's how low the bar is.
I actually like that you're a little more balanced than some other sites, but there's no excuse for this stop.
F for the officer for blinding the driver, breaking the law, and causing a potentially dangerous situation, I personally give absolutely no leeway for road incidents.
The spotlight was just to startle the driver into jinxing across the white line to justify a DUI stop.
Sorry that alone is enough to justify an F.
He could have caused an accident. The cop deserves to be charged and fired
The guy running this channel is much too concerned with legal technicalities and not concerned enough with common sense. Going to law school tends to do that to you.
The spotlight was to see if the driver was black. The fact the car was full of black people just made it an even better hit. He was hoping to ID everyone in the care and hit on at least one warrant.
He was profiling
@@stefanfrankel8157 That's what precedent is, it's the point of the channel.
The spotlight assisted the officer to determine the crime of "driving while black" was being committed.
Everything about this stop was gross.
"We just wanna know who we're out with" translates to let me run you for warrants so I can get my fix.
Guy: Why'd you shine the light in my eyes?
Cop: I wanted to see if you were black- I mean black- I mean black- I mean, speeding.
Lmao right!
Facts
😭😭😭😭😭✌🏽✌🏽
I mean, the windows weren't tinted and there was plenty of street lights. Don't know why he needed to know they were black to stop them by shining a light at them.
Haha let's mention the skin color of the guy because we have nothing of value else to say
"We're gonna let you off with a verbal warning"...Google Translate: "I'm an unprofessional douche and was on an illegal fishing expedition". And this is the first time I wholeheartedly disagree with the verdict. This stop was a total racist bullshit. "I visually estimated your speed". Yea right, maybe if the guy was doing twice the limit. Maybe. No, he shone the freaking light, saw a couple of black dudes in a 30 mph zone and figured there's no way they're going 30. And if they are, they're up to no good cause nobody does, let's see what they're up to.
@Brandon BP No they can't. That's COMPLETE garbage
@Brandon BP and if you listen to the video, he WAS NOT speeding when the light was shone.
@Brandon BP That is literally completely false and entirely inaccurate lmao lets see a cop try to use that in court “I visually estimated his speed” is literally impossible especially going in the opposite direction, especially considering he was legit incorrect and the “”suspect”” was going the speed limit.
@Brandon BP That's bs. He was literally going mid 20's and he said he was going 40. Shut up lmao
@Brandon BP I don't disagree that a trained eye could estimate a speed with a degree of accuracy. This bozo was no such trained eye it seems. I won't say it's impossible, but highly improbable that you could estimate a closing speed to within few mph (that's what the reality here was) when the excess would have been 2-3 mph tops going that slow. No, the cops will often use this stupid argument because if shit goes sour it gives a convenient way out: sorry, it seemed fast, my bad. It's bullshit, it's wrong and not worth antagonizing a good portion of the population for an off-chance of catching some stray criminal.
This "C" should be an "F". Cop was trolling, perhaps even attempting to cause a chase by flossing, and or causing a car wreck. You stated the law yourself about lights in windshields; yet he gets a "C". Wow.
Honor your Oath had some great interactions with OPD.
his grading is very iffy
Indeed
If this was an F, that leaves no room to grade things worse when officers inevitably turn a stop like this into an arrest/beating/murder. I agree with AtA on this one.
So both trolling and assaulting an innocent citizen equate to an "F"? That makes no sense...
Then it should be a d or e grade.
What printed him to do that? Was he going to bully them around and then found out the driver was a former cop and decided to play it cool? We will never know for sure!
I strongly suspect the fact the guy was a former cop stopped the officer from taking that encounter any further. If the dude was a cop for two different departments for 8 years, you don't know who he knows and how that might bite you later if you escalate that stop.
The driver handled himself exceptionally well. Maintained control of his emotions even though he had every reason to upset. I hope he filed a complaint!
I hope he sues the officer and his department.
Cause he probably did this himself during his time as cop and new it eas better to. just follow along
@@papayaman78 you’re damn right sir. Spot on. Never thought of it from that angle. Wow.
Filed a complaint for getting pulled over for speeding?
@@HUBABUBA-il8fn no sir. The basis for the complaint would have been the use of the flash light in his face which could have caused a car wreck. Did you miss that part?
you lose a lot of credibility when you give a passing grade to a police officer who lied about the speed of the oncoming car, shining a light into the eyes of an oncoming car and abusing his powers.
Right! Like obvious racial profiling and BROKE THE LAW.
I agree. Though he lost most of credibility a while ago when he gave an officer an A- even though he was harassing a young guy for literally just standing on a sidewalk. Weird when the officer is black and the suspect white nobody seems to care.
I think audit the audit’s grading is skewed but understandable. It seems any interaction where the detainee makes it out safely and the officer didn’t escalate the situation is given a D-C range. So even though the stop was likely illegal, and spotlighting was endangering, in the end the officer let them go in a timely manner. If I were to do a rating system any abuse of power would be F, but that isn’t really objective.
Shut up with this credibility shit. He constantly gives cops D- where nothing even happened.
@@promontorium I mean, I doubt "nothing" happened if they got a D-.
Sounds like a “driving while black” stop to me.
Or in more rural areas. It's just "driving while dark out"
Cops be like: Statistically, one of these two is likely a criminal. Let's get us our PoC merit-badge!
Blatantly too
Amem!!!!!!!!!
The only racist here is you.
One night we were sitting at our commercial shop with the overhead door open. A local cop drove by slowly 2 times 20 minutes apart and shined his spotlight in our faces for a good 10 seconds each time. He got really pissed when he tried it a third time and we had set up a large mirror so he blinded himself. He kept saying, "Turn off that light!", and we kept replying, "It's your light dipsh*t!".
That will confirm the educational low bar used to recruit cops these days - they are generally not the most intellectually gifted
C- was super generous here. If this officer had pulled over someone even a bit less cool headed, this could’ve escalated like wildfire. But great video!
My thoughts exactly 👍
I’m thinking that although the police infringed in his rights, because they ultimately did not charge the driver a c- is valid
@@jawadulkarim9498 I don’t think racial profiling and taking the rights away from an individual, as well as potentially trying to cause an accident FOR THE ACT OF RACIALLY PROFILING is deserving of lower than an F.
@@jawadulkarim9498 Let's be real here, the only reason he didn't charge the driver is because he is an ex-cop.
@@oceanwaves83 he told them the reason for shining the spotlight was to SEE WHO WAS IN THE CAR. That’s “TheAce” in the hole for racial profiling when you realize he saw 4 black passengers breaking no laws and decided to pull them over
AtA, we love you, but you've GOT to start giving realistic grades. This officer gets an F on all accounts.
While I agree with your sentiment, if he gave the officer an F, then what would he have given the officer if he'd been even worse? (And there's plenty of video's of officers being way worse than this, imagine if he'd screamed at him to get out of the car the moment he'd reached for his ID and then escalated the situation to the point where he shoots or tazers the member of the public?), that's not to say that he shouldn't have maybe been graded a D+ or something instead though.
I don't really know how those grades based on letters work (in my country we usually use numbers, normally X/100, with 60/100 being the passing grade), but as far as I saw, F is the minimum.
In this case, I agree with Sinule, if we give an F to those cops, what would a cop that uses unnecessary violence have as grade?
@@thomasfplm Also F? F means you failed. You can barely fail, and you can fail hard, but you still failed regardless of how badly you failed.
@@koopatroopa187, that's my point, this system lacks nuance.
@@thomasfplm I just think the argument that you can't give someone an F because they didn't do as shitty as someone else who got an F is absurd. The letter grade system is stupid, but that's how it works.
Let's call this what it was, "Racial profiling." ....That cop simply used his spotlight to see who were occupying that vehicle, saw black men and decided to create a bullshit reason to stop them. Simple. That C- should be an F.
Love the vids. Keep em coming. 👍🏾
Gotta hit that quota somehow.
@@JackIsNotInTheBox Exactly. Then again, he didn't issue a citation. So, I wouldn't say it was quota based.
Yup, I normally support police but this was totally a racially motivated stop.
@@Est.1985- Yeah, he was lucky he was a former cop.
@@JackIsNotInTheBox Agreed
Right to ASK for everyone's ID. No right to DEMAND. If they hand it over when asked, they have made a choice.
Only time I've disagreed w/ an audit of yours. F- for the officer, A+ for the driver & passenger
Yeah. Lost my respect
We can see
Facts💯.
He’s done this quite a few times especially when it comes to racial profiling
On a grading scale where officers are brutalizing or straight up murdering folks a C- kinda makes sense
@@snacksnake7418 A C- isn't even a failing score on the 'grading scale'...
That Former Officer, and his Passengers deserved an AWARD, the way they handle themselves during the Interrogation. That was an Interrogation, not a questioning period. Former Police Officer deserved and AWARD, for his Professionalism. A+ Earned.
Who the hell are you
An award??? They answered every question that the officer asked and the only reason why nothing escalated, was because the driver was a former officer and the Orlando officer respected the Thin Blue Line
@@alexh8613 very thin line
@@alexh8613 idk about it being respect as much as dude knew what they were and weren’t allowed to do so cop knew he screwed up. He knew if dude fought anything in court he would get his ass handed to him. Cops going up against civilians is one thing. Cops going up against lawyers and former police is another. Both can spell disaster for a cop when they practice violating rights on a daily. Eventually their luck runs out.
the driver was just afraid to get killed, thats why he talked with the police officer instead of remaining silent, he knew, as a former police officer, the way those "randoms" traffics stops can go, so he played along. Its sad to see that he understood the danger, he is a black man with tatoos, so he is a target...
"Hey, let's see who's drivin' that. A black guy! Imma stop that!"
your videos are so informative and I like the fact that you explain the different laws in difference states
Thank God this man stayed calm because this line of questioning is at best imperfessional at worst prejudiced
"you know why I pulled you over?"
"Was it DWB?"
"Yep! Driving while black!"
Nobody should deny the facts, nobody in their right mind would pull such a stupid stunt as blinding an oncomming vehicle at night unless the intent was malicious. Clearly your right on the money, the rascist was actually looking to pull over anyone but a ghost
@KingCobraJFS it’s because there are actual studies about how these kind of situations are racist. During the day, when cops can see the race of the person in their car, black people are pulled over disproportionately to white people. At night it evens out because cops can’t see the race of the person in the vehicle. Why else would this dude be flashing lights into cars at night? It’s to see if he’s black because he can’t tell. We know he lied about clocking his speed. We know he lied about the light. It’s pretty obvious that this was racial profiling.
@KingCobraJFS Obviously not, but this didn’t happen to a white guy. It happened to a black guy and so we have to take racial profiling as a potential possibility when looking at why this officer did this. You keep talking about this hypothetical situation like it’s a gotcha, but it has nothing to do with this situation.
wait so you think this cop drives around shinning his light at people till he finds a black guy to pull over? yeah okay buddy
@@TheBlatchi Wait you think this police officer just happened to shine his light into the car and then immediately switch directions while lying about him speeding and asking everyone in the car for their ID and it had nothing to do with race?Yeah ok buddy.
Cop uses light to see “black” driver. Then lies and pulls him over, violates the passengers 4th Amendment rights “Deprivation of rights under color of law” and he gets a C-??? He should go to prison!!!
This narrator is and always has been a boot licker. I have no idea why viewers are always praising his neutrality.
@@christopherscott8853 Because in every other video there's a slew of people complaining how heavily he leans against police, in favour of citizens. That duality shows an attempt to be impartial but also that some people will only ever accept when reality bends their way.
All that said, I think C- for this officer was too lenient.
Not that bad but he Definitely needs discipline
Because it could turned to something that it didn’t happen
"Shining any light into oncoming traffic can be incredibly dangerous" Yeah I would argue tooth and nail there.
Not only can it be incredibly dangerous, it is absolutely dangerous and I would argue it is intentionally attempting to cause an accident.
Sue sue the police
I think that my be dramatic
@@JohnDoe-eo8gi their spotlight is bright and blinding as fuck right in your face… that’s kind of the point, to be high powered so it can illuminate far and well. I’d bet if you went around with a 2000lm flashlight and blaring it into people’s face while they drove, you’d come out of it with charges. The likelihood of causing an accident, in this scenario, is slim, but that doesn’t negate the reckless and careless manner of action.
@@JohnDoe-eo8gi may* be dramatic. Let's start by correcting your typo. Yes, I'm petty like that.
This is something the cop does all the time, which he made clear when he casually explained his reasoning to the driver. Even if he can't stop the driver for speeding when he wasn't, if he could get the driver to swerve, he could pull the car over for a DUI check. Using reckless behavior like that to create accidents and force a stop is incredibly dangerous, not dramatic. And if it was dramatic, Florida wouldn't have laws prohibiting those exact actions, which AtA shown at 6:48, incase you missed it. I don't know, maybe you're okay with car accidents and other lives potentially put in danger because of careless police.
@@MistaBaZ I think the part that could be considered dramatic is that the cop "is intentionally attempting to cause an accident." It is definitely reckless and careless, as well as dangerous, and the cop should be fired. But to say his intentions were for the driver of the vehicle to crash is absurd and, well, dramatic.
If he had crashed from the spotlight I almost guarantee the officer would have given him a ticket for “distracted driving” or something similar
Would have lied and gave him a DUI after arresting him
Dad: “don’t turn the light on while we’re driving you’re gonna make me crash”
Cops: how you like 10,000 Lumens LOL 🚓
Literally like a flashbang
Is that actually parents reasoning for telling the kids not to turn on the lights in the car while driving?
@@2BAMaster9 In this very video he points out that when bright light goes into your eye it scatters and makes the contrast on the road lessen. So yeah, all the light around u makes it hard to see the darkness on the road better.
@@tw629108 no car interior light is bright enough to cause disorientation. Unless you got a 3000 lumen dome light
@@LynxStarAuto it will DEFINITELY reduce your ability to see.
I call that Racial Profiling. The Driver did an OUTSTANDING JOB at staying calm. I would have been pissed that the cop shined his spotlight in my eyes.
Blinding a driver should get them a F. Cop did that to me once then questioned why I slowed down. I told them it's your fault for blinding me.
Why does this guy never use the grade "D" ? From the old school definitions:
A= excellent
B = above average
C = average
D = needs improvement
F = fail
I'm asking a legitimate question btw, not being snarky. I assume that he has a reason.
I think it is
A = above average
B = average
C = below average
F = failing
A lot of schools use this grading scale too and to me it makes sense - makes for higher standards for people to require more to pass.
I've wondered the same. D's are super rare on this channel. Like, I get preserving F's for the beatings and killing and false arrests, but D's should be for minor laws broken. I'd use the scale:
A - good officer, have a donut
B - technically did his job and broke no laws, but was somewhat unprofessional
C - Technically broke no laws, but made things worse by being there/escalated
D - Broke a minor law or did his job abysmally (wrongful arrest, no investigation at all, covered for a worse cop, etc)
F - Broke a serious law, such as assault or intentionally abusing powers
Not inclusive enough of all letters?
Is E not a grade used in the States?
@@gemma3877 nope, A-F in US.
'Gonna let you off with a verbal warning'
Translation: I couldn't find an excuse to arrest you so I gotta cover my ass somehow.
Yeah, trying to sound like he's doing him some favor by wasting their time.
I have to say that I have a massive amount of respect for the driver and his passengers, and I think cops like the ones who pulled this man over should have to face some kind of consequences for bogus stops.
In my little ole opinion this Officer gets a ……….
BIG FAT “ F “
Do to the fact he pulled this man over cuz of his color imo & spot lighted him !!
You can’t estimate anybody’s speed while you’re driving toward them. Plus shining that light could’ve caused an accident. The criminals are bad but the police are getting just as evil
Well said
What criminals ?
Biggest gang in the country
That’s literally against the law of physics.😂
Having seen many, many videos of criminals executing unarmed people while they beg, I would say no, the police are nothing like criminals. People need to stop exaggerating.
That was a total bs stop and if he wasn’t an officer previously he would of got a ticket at least
Love the voice of the announcer, so comforting!!
Thank you officer for such a kind gesture! You mean you're not going to give me a ticket for a false infraction I never commited?? I am so grateful to be part of a country full of trustworthy people in power. I mean, my mind and body are so at peace when I step out my door because I know you truly care about America and always doing right by it's citizens. I can trust that my safety and well being are always in your hand.
That was definitely a F!!! Shining his spotlight in the drivers face showed a complete lack care for his safety. It also showed an extreme lack of respect. This stop got a F before it was initiated and, to me, there was nothing the cop could have said or done afterwards to raise his "score." The ONLY thing he did right was letting the driver go with a BULLSHIT warning.
I had a cop shine his light in my car as I was driving before when I was younger. It’s a dangerous act on the road. Glad I’m able to learn the law by watching these videos.
Serious and skeptical, courteous and compliant. I really like that.
The driver did an amazing job. I’ve seen the actual footage he posted on TH-cam- he said at the end it was a bullshit traffic stop and he was going to file a complaint. Does anyone know if anything came of it?
This officer was looking for ANY reason to stop and cite the driver. Even going out of his way to endanger the driver by shining the light into his car and interrogating him about his law enforcement career….sickening.
Totally agree. Just horrible.
I've seen cops do way less and earn an F on your channel. This cop more than earned an F. Recklessly shining the light in the driver's eyes, a bogus "speed estimate", a likely illegal stop and also highly likely racial profiling.
The cop knew that they had no reason to stop him in the first place at all. The cop could’ve caused an accident for no good reason.