He claims he visually estimated a few miles over the speed limit without even knowing the speed limit. And he wants us to believe he didn't just make that up on the spot. What a clown
That method of checking the license for legintmesy and making stuff up on a ticket and report because the driver handed the license looks similar to the strategy of drugs "sniffing" cops because you let them search your car they can and too many times will take it as you just pled guilty regardless if there were no drugs in the car, they knew entirely what they were doing is wrong.
Agreed, this is F behavior. "But we've seen similar situations go much worse" yeah, and those are worse, but this one is still really bad. These cops shouldn't get an average score just because they didn't get into a violent altercation. This channel sometimes. 🤦♂️
I’ve seen EVERY video AA POST. Makin a pretty good LIVIN off other folks work. I’d sure love to had a professor with his grading curve. Times have definitely changed. BUT IN. O WAY FOR THEBETTER. I feel sorry for you youngsters. America use to be are really nice place to live. But with 90% of cops, IGNORANT of the laws and still being able to continue to police in this way will be the DOWNFALL of FREEDOM. And to think this all started with PARTICIPATION TROPHIES
@@CLUB-th7pp are you trying to say AtA is getting money off of other peoples' work? Because AtA does some of the most detailed and accurate analyses of these situations that exist on this platform. He adds *SO* much value to the cause, just because he isnt out doing audits himself doesnt make him a freeloader.
@@walkingdeadman4208 Isn't that dumb they're so corrupt until they plant stuff in peoples cars and they are so sure that they'll get away with it . and they have gotten away literally with murder.
I remember a story where the cop in court said he eyeballed the person speeding without actually using a radar. The judge picked up a pencil and threw it across the room. He then asked the cop "how fast was that pencil going?". The cop was dumbfounded. Case dismissed.
That sounds exactly like something I would have done if I was the judge. I tell you the crime in this country is outrageous and the crime in our government legal system is outrageous. If there was a scientific social study done of the 60 years after they took the Bible and prayer out of our schools and the 60 years previous they would have to admit wholeheartedly it was a complete failure and needs to be reversed immediately.
ATA seems to use "A+" through "F" as a replacement for the 10-1 scale. Which I often find annoying, as many places a "D" is still a passable grade, and "F" is a whole range of grades, of varying levels of failure; ranging from barely not passable to utterly abysmal failure. I really think ATA should just switch to 1-10, as that seems to be more in line with how he wants to grade things. Or he needs to have some type of caveat on any "F" grade to explain how bad of a failure it was.
If you give these guys an F, you give no separation from the cops who would have escalated this to an arrest or worse. I understand AtA's use of a "curve" when grading - it can't all be As and Fs.
I was stopped by an officer that then turned off his lights and pulled up next to me after about a minute and said I had the wrong car. he was looking for a stolen car that matched mine. He apologized, We both laughed , I said I hope you find it and that was it. It’s perfectly fine to make a mistake. It’s the ego stroking that causes these issues
@@PiLLO360 - There were two times. In one case, the cop was looking for a car involved in some kind of crime that involved a hit-and-run (I don't know if it was just a hit & run). Apparently, it was the same type of car that I had at the time, which was a common car (a Dodge Aries / a K-car). My car had damage on it, but that damage was from a while ago. There was another time where I wasn't in a car, I was walking home from a party with a boy, and the police stopped us because apparently a couple was stealing from houses. We were walking home quite early, 6 a.m. or 7 a.m., but we weren't carrying anybody's property.
Exactly, I bet, if that cop would've let the guy go his way, after he saw, that his mobile phone was fixated and NOT in his hands, everything would've been fine.
Cops need to be given "ego training." They need to be taught to recognize when they are being ego-driven and abusing their authority because of their ego.
My guess is they are trained to avoid any admission of wrongdoing during interactions in the field. An apology can be construed as evidence of wrongdoing and may be evidence used in a civil suit. The same reason you should never admit wrong doing or apologize after any traffic accident.
he did admit his mistake. wasn't wrong or lying about the license, and could have enforced that if he chose. Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
"How fast was I going?" "You were going 10% over the speed limit." "Okay, what was the speed limit?" "I don't know, but if it was 25, you were doing 27.5." Dude managed to make the cop look like a moron.
The is an expression that I like to apply to this illegal stop. "What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care." That's how this towns cops feel about enforcing laws and respecting Rights.
If I was a supervisor of fuzz I would make it mando. This stuff can be outstanding training material. If I was a cop I’d definitely watch this stuff as much as I could.
And a refresher course on the Constitution laws and and state laws and code of conduct policies every three months. Then none of them can claim not knowing.
i can’t even be mad cause it’s so hilarious that a cop claimed someone was going 3MPH over the speed limit but didn’t even know if the speed limit was 20,25, or even 30…
"Visual estimates" should be thrown out entirely. The cop didn't even know the speed limit. And he clearly just made up a new charge on the spot so he could be "right". A clear abuse of power by an insecure cop.
@@joelsefur666 I get what you're saying. Major speeding is identifiable to the naked eye,. But couldn't a decent lawyer poke holes in even that argument?
@@joelsefur666 Danger shouldn't be illegal because the level of danger presented is dependent almost entirely on the driver. Some people can drive better at 100mph than others can drive at 40. Why charge the professional doing 100 and not the granny doing 40? How about you get charged with speeding AFTER you've caused damage? Then all of the bad drivers will get all of the tickets. Speeding tickets don't discourage me from speeding anyways, they just make me want to waste the courts time. I'd sue the department, making sure they waste tens of thousands of dollars of dollars during the defense. I'd spam them with FOIA requests and subpoenas for records that have never been digitized. I'd hire a PI to track the officers and their loved ones, then tell the targets that they're being watched. I'm also going to teach my kids to behave the same way whenever some tyrant attempts to limit their freedoms.
I'd say first cop F and supervisor C. That first cop needs to be suspended w/o pay for a week & forced to watch 20 hours of Audit the Audit before he can pull over another citizen.
I agree on the split grade but I would give Officer Wilson even better than a C because he actually was correct in his interpretation of the Texas motor vehicle statute - the fact that the Texas motor vehicle statute is unconstitutional is not his doing - His job is to be aware of the statute, understand it and enforce it - but all of that being said, he realized that the right thing to do was let Mr. Patriot go, and he did the right thing.
You gave these cops a C-??? The first cop lied and had NO reason whatsoever to stop Mr.Patriot. These cops are EVERYTHING that is wrong with SO many government employees and deserve an F!
The grade was only given bcuz the 2nd officer let him go without arresting or even giving a hard time. If it was based solely on the first officers experience I would think it would be lower.
@@oiram9466Sounds like more excuses being made and more bad cops not being held accountable. The first cop should be held accountable for his actions….letting the innocent citizen go without a ticket doesn’t excuse the first cops behavior
@@jamesoverholt878 exactly, he said you give me your licence and I'll give you a verbal and you'll be on your way which is all well and good except the constitution says no my friend you haven't met the requirements of the amendment, learn what the 4th amendment is or continue to violate people's rights (and they say auditor's aren't making differences, 20 years ago that supervisor would've demanded him to indenify.
@@jamesoverholt878 I dont think so...with no disrespect and not trying to come up with "labels" here... but this guy doesn't tick the box as someone that could have an open warrant.....
I was pulled over one time because the cop thought my sticker was out of date. He came up, realized it was good and he said sorry and to have a good night. Thats how it is supposed to be done.
@@matthewchick8908 yes. And thanks for adding this. It's so easy to watch a bunch of these and come away thinking all cops are like this. Similar when you watch/hear incidents like this from other professions like Nursing/Medical. Definitely in a rabbit hole and enjoying these videos bringing aholes to light.
@@someguy3717 the fact that the officer is quoting the law directly instead of the facts of the specific case is just more evidence that he was trying to stick a violation on the guy with no evidence.
Texas statutes state that a public roadway has a reasonable leeway of 10% or 5 mph, whichever is less. This means a 20mph school zone is 22, not 25; residential is 33mph, not 35; but highways of 70mph are 75, not 77. This is actual Texas DPS statute and something you should know if you drive in the state of Texas, especially if you do more than 22 in a school zone, where fines are doubled.
@@merlin4real Immediate firing and rendered the officer's testimony below the citizens. Too many times, law enforcement depositions/testimony are held as correct without any video/audio evidence.
Right, I lost on a speeding ticket because I didn't have the cop recorded saying that he thought he had lost track of me on the freeway, because apparently he was supposedly clocking from the opposite direction, passed 4 lanes of traffic and supposedly had to catch up with me, despite me driving with traffic and not passing people. And how he supposedly lost track of my car visually for over a mile as he had to go around from south bound to catch up to me going north bound and I had only gotten on the on freeway like 3 miles back to start with. I believe he got me mixed up with another car, because I was doing almost 10 under what he said I was. But I lacked the video to challenge how he could know he had the right car after "losing" me for over a mile. And how he could get a clear radar hit across 4 lanes of traffic all going my speed or faster. People were literally passing me where he told me that he tagged my speed. If I had a dash cam I could have used people passing me and what he said to refute my ticket.
Officer: "License please, I caught you speeding" Driver: "Really? What's the speed limit?" Officer: "Idk man, 10% slower than whatever speed you were going at"
The best part is the cop said 10% because he didn't want to give a number because he didn't know the speed limit, lol. When else have you ever heard a cop give you your speed in a percentage over the limit?
This driver has about 30 IQ points on these officers. It would be hard to be so articulate and logical under the circumstances but he decisively pointed out the flaws in every argument presented to him. Well done, sir!.
He said 10% because that is the offense that he would write the ticket for. I have gotten a ticket and it said that the offense was 10% over the posted speed limit. He just quoted the ticketable offense
If cops are allowed to ask for your license even in the situation where they were 100% wrong and have already admitted it, then that gives police blanket permission to pull over anyone at any time about anything. "Sorry, I thought you didn't have a windshield. license please." ""My mistake, I can see now that your wheels are round, and not shaped like triangles. License and registration."
Let’s say you made an enemy that has connections to corrupt pigs; that enemy could theoretically have his pig friends stop you everyday on your way to and from work to ensure your late to work and home perhaps leading to a termination of employment and less time at home with your family clear harassment possible if cops can stop you just to see you’re a licensed driver
I don't like the color of your truck license and registration please, I don't like who you have with you license and registration please, I don't like the color of your skin license and registration please I mean we're getting to that point.
"You were speeding." "Really? How fast do you think I was going?" Cops pulls out a slide rule then realizes he doesn't know what the posted limit is and also that he has no idea how to work a slide rule. "Let me see your license."
I work in law enforcement and my jaw dropped when the officer said the vehicle was going 10 percent over the limit but did not know what the speed limit was. Why didn't the officer just say he was sorry for his mistake about the phone and move on instead of trying to save face with the speeding charge. A police officer is human just like everybody else we make mistakes there is no shame in it take responsibility for it learn from it then move on. I used to be so proud to tell people what I did for a living anymore I don't tell people because of the response I always get because of things like this.
It’s a case of a phew bad apple ruins the bunch, theres nothing that common people despise more than abuse of authority because we’re the ones that give you that authority yet cops act like that authority comes from god himself.
@@D4zz13R when I started out in this profession the one thing I was taught that really stuck with me was if you show respect 9 out of 10 times you'll get respect.
How did you not automatically give the cops an F? He got caught obviously lying so that he wouldn’t look like an idiot, and he doubled down. That’s an immediate F.
He said in the video. The grades are based out of what policing looks like today and the videos we see here everyday. Even though this stop was fucked, it's less fucked because there was no violence or unlawful arrests on the part of the police. Which is fucking sad and terrifying.
I agree with the c just cause the end result. These knucklehead cops are hard headed as hell so for them to get off their high horse they deserve some credit in todays gangster police era
@@mobileebikerentals2940 So the cops have moved the bar so incredibly low that even lying about a traffic stop and harassing citizens gets an average grade?
The officer basically admitted: “I pulled you over for one thing and you proved you weren’t doing that, so I’m now making up something else on the spot to keep you detained”
It's all bullshit even if you prove you done nothing wrong they still have to dig to pin something on to you they cand just let thier bullshit cop ego go and admit they were wrong if I was a cop and I was proven wrong I'd let the guy go you think I wanna write a bullshit report or sit in court wast the Judge and everyone's time just for the Judge to say yea he was right your wrong lol
He knew he had nothing on mr patriot. He didnt want a complaint on his record , or the other officers to know what a dumb comment about going 10% over the speed limit, while he didn't even know what it was
Cop 2 deserves a C-, the first deserves an F. If he's willing to lie about this sort of thing, I guarentee you he lies all the time in his official capacity, which means he probably doesn't stop lying when he gets to court or is writing reports. Keep in mind that police perjury is very common.
My gut feeling is they saw the camera and suspected he was an auditor. I can't even give the supervisor a C-. I don't expect them to know the nuances of every law, but *if LEOs don't know the basics for carrying out a detention (a common officer tasks), it is fair to question if they are minimally unqualified for their job.*
every time i see a video like this. i swear cops are like fuck the law. fuck the ammendments. fuck the people. i do what i want and u cant do shit. and the people just eat that shit up.... how weak are americans? go fix your damn system already. you have a 90+ year old as president for crying out loud. the guy cant even walk straight. let alone run america. if korea or russia at this point breaks out a war. america will kill itself before it can help europe.
I don't think the first officer deserves an F. While what he claimed to have observed seemed unbelievable, I think he probably knows himself that he *can* gather reasonable suspicion from a visual estimate of speed, he simply did a poor job communicating this to Mr. Patriot (whether or not the officer actually believed Patriot was speeding). It appeared that the first Officer was in need of educating himself. It's important to acknowledge that he did, at one point, admit he was wrong, and that he didn't have Patriot clocked, so your "guarantee" that he "lies all the time" seems pretty ridiculous.
@@steet2 Nope, he didn't even know the speed limit - he was making shit up on the fly, and trapped himself in his lie (he never even said how fast he thought he was going). He illegally extended the detention when there was no longer RS, so he could go on a fishing expedition. LEO violating the law = automatic F.
@@1SCme okay, for one, the man was never detained. There was no "illegal detention." For two, yes he admitted he was mistaken, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a liar. He MAY have genuinely thought the man was speeding. Look, I get that it's cool and trendy to bash on cops, but it's more important to be reasonable, especially when auditing. I wouldn't say the first officer's actions would warrant disciplinary action, which is what I'd equate to conduct deserving of an F grade. Please try to be a bit more level headed.
You give all these pong explinations which says one thing but then not to long after give another interpretation in "some courts". IN OTHER WORDS ITS A CATCH 22.
The funnier thing is no matter the speed limit... 10% is not even that much lmao. Say the speed limit was 60 hypothetically. Omg he was going 66. Really? Lol
We need egoless police officers. The guy was 100% ok to pull him over for the phone. Then he just simply needs to acknowledge the mistake and move on. As for requiring the drivers license afterwards, even IF it was legal to require it, it’s 100% ego to ask for it. He knows it, his supervisor knows it, we know it.
I mean yeah we need everyone to stop being such a self righteous and stubborn egotist not just cops. But it’s human nature and there are so many people incapable of change
Definitely agree. Along with doctors or nurses with egos too. You are going into a field that has a personable component and they don’t take that into account smh
He estimated the speed while looking g at his phone and did not have the visual acuity to see the guy must have gorilla arms or it wasn't in his hands.
When a cop doesn't know what the speed limits are, he should not be able to claim the driver was speeding! By the way the speed limit was 30 and even the cop agreed that the driver was going 27.5...still under the posted speed limit. Lol
I find it odd that he claimed he was going 16mph. But the speed limit was 30 lol that’s substantially more dangerous than going 10% over the speed limit lol
@@YeOldeYeet per previous videos on this channel its 15 or more under the speed limit in some US states. But 10-15mph is a lot more significant at 30mph than 60-70. Maybe he was stuck in traffic or just coming out of a turn.
Good stuff. As a Texan, the wording of that statue makes me want to "display" my license for the cop but not give it to him, because "the law" requires me to keep it in my possession "while operating" my car
Technically, that's all you have to do. ...may cause things to get out of hand depending on the officer, but per the letter of the law, you only have to show it to him. The Battousi does it all the time and I've seen a few others get away with it. But I've also seen cops drag people out of the vehicle.
@@invictusbp1prop143 Yeah, if I have the extra time to deal with a potentially retaliatory cop being a jerk I'll be doing this the next time I'm stopped
@@gw6667 Dude... but yes. That is LITERALLY how it goes down. Crack window 1cm, put license, reg and insurance against the window. Say nothing. Pro-bonus, if you have them in a binder sleeve together, so you look coordinated.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer. i believe you can press it against the inside of your closed windshield for the officer to see and be in compliance
@@m4rvinmartian That's a waste of time. Cops can legally demand you roll your window down or exit your vehicle. You clearly aren't a Texan, otherwise you'd know we use 2-in-1 windshield stickers for registration and inspection. A binder just makes you look like a tool
The logic isnt proven at this point, so technically, the cop is making a ‘valid’ point. Both of them are unaware of the actual speed limit. We have the hindsight knowledge. But the cop is still an azz!
If anything, going 16 in a 30 zone could theoretically be called going too slow, but the cop already said "speeding" so he couldn't change his story more than he already had.
and also even if the speed limit was 25, then he'd only be going 2.5mph OVER which is over and STIIIILLLLLL not speeding. So under literally no circumstances could he have been speeding based on the cop's logic
@@tirsden so you can never go below 30? What kind of sense does that make? If there's a fallen tree blocking the way you just have to plow through it at 30?
@@tirsden Nah, I think he was already overly cautious of the cop, remember he "overtook" him at 16, probably on purpose to not trigger a reaction, the cop still went for it. I have a feeling this zone is well known for this kind of thing in the community and he was just trying not to get "caught" by the officer, the phone being installed on the passenger side is kind of interesting too, it would mean he had "no way" to be using it or it would have being noticeable if he stretched out to put it there.
I remember one time I was with my brother when he got pulled over. The office walked up, got a closer look at the registration sticker, then apologized and sent us on our way. That's how this interaction should have gone, but then this video wouldn't exist.
I had a similar situation with an inspection sticker. The first thing he said was "i didn't see your sticker" as he pointed to my brand new, 5 days old inspection sticker. still demanded all my information. I was ignorant to my rights and gave him all the info, but looking back, I shouldn't have.
@@Tekkykek no you did the right thing. Why make a big deal about an ID and escalate the situation? You could end up with a slap on the wrist for “disorderly conduct” or some other b.s. and spend the night in jail. Or diffuse the situation by giving him your ID (unlike the emotional man in the video) and go about your day.
@@Jeff-nb8iy I personally, would at least voice my discomfort with the situation, then say something to the effect of "I'm uncomfortable with my rights being violated, but on the threat of imprisonment, I will identify myself, but this is not of my own volution"
Classic cop bullshit. "Well the reason you're still here is because you requested a supervisor. All you had to do was voluntarily surrender your rights and you'd have been on your way."
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
@@1981bevo cute. Now do the part where a cop needs legitimate probable cause to pull you over and detain you in order to legally demand identification. In addition, as the video showed, there are multiple appellate and supreme court decisions affirming the fact that a cop can't just randomly demand ID. Nice try though. Go lick boots somewhere else.
I love how the cop tries to gaslight him about his request for a supervisor. He asked for a supervisor because you were unlawfully asking for his identification, then the second he asked for one you tried to flip it and say he was only being “detained” because he had asked for a supervisor.
So basically it boils down to "You were going 10% over Ugh.. let me go check the sign and it will be 10% above that. I'm really accurate at judging speeds."
This cop knows he’s caught violating an educated mans rights. His Ego cant let him back down and this demonstrates how dangerous this cop is going to be !
he was wrong about the license. Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
@@slimjim69423 i did. the driver didn't tear anything apart. if the cops wanted enforce the license statute, it would be up to the judge to decide if they felt the cop's RAS of the speeding accusation holds enough water to demand the license. but it is not to be argued on the side of the road. so the cops could have very well cited him for it.
@@1981bevo i didnt say he tore anything apart, nor should he have to. even if he had been cited for such a thing it does not make it legal. a cop can quite literally accuse you and cite you for any crime they so please, and like you said in the end its up to the judge, but it doesnt make it legal. I said finish the video because as explained "an individual operating or travelling in an automobile does not lose all expectation of privacy simply because the automobile and its use are subject to government regulation".
That’s a great idea but it still relies on the trustworthiness of the officer for it to be successful. The existence of this channel proves that doesn’t always exist, unfortunately.
Relying on their honesty is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. The guy could’ve told Patriot to his face that he clocked him going 67mph until he gives up or Patriot confesses to doing so. Qualified immunity gives them the opportunity to lie without consequence.
When the supervisor says, "i'll let you go"... Did he really had to say it like that? What a power trip. Even when letting the guy go he still has the need to let him know it's only because he is allowing it lol
This officer gilpin makes such a good witness in court. He😊 said the driver was going 10% over the speed limit. When asked whats the speed limit he actually said he doesnt know. You cant make this shit up!
Seriously why are all the commenters so out for blood when it comes to cops in this channel. Yeah there are some bad cops but this is a channel based on analyzing the worst of the worst. Don’t apply it to all cops.
It is insane that the courts have concluded that officers can continue to detain someone after RAS has been dispelled. They cannot do it when the person is NOT in a car; they should not be able to when the detainee IS in a car.
I find it odd that the reason these guys even get a C- is because they managed to waddle over the extremely low bar of "this didn't end with gunshots or an arrest." They get an "F+" because they pulled him over for non-reasons, lied about the stop so they didn't look stupid, harassed him until a superior showed up, but finally let him go.
My parents taught me to drive 10 km over the speed limit , (6 miles) if I am in a hurry. Most reasonable cops won’t pull you over for a speed that could be a discrepancy in your speedometer , or something that could be caused by having your foot a little too heavy on the pedal for a second without looking
But that's the funniest shit I ever heard officer say they try to explain the dumbass why are they trying to initiate just because they feel stupid that they were wrong and can't accept it
Doesn’t matter it’s Texas. Texas law only requires that you show your ID to a police officer under certain circumstances. These circumstances include: after you've been arrested, when you are driving, and when you are carrying a handgun…
I posted this initially when I saw this on another channel but I'll ask it here. Can anyone tell me how an officer could know he was going 2.5 miles per hour over the limit without a radar and without a speedometer giving tenths of a mile??? This cop is not only the biggest liar I've ever seen but a complete egomaniac for not allowing the driver to leave because of his own mistakes.
I got pulled over once by a motorcycle cop as he claimed that I ran a red light. The light in question was on a street with a public school and during the summer, the light is changed to a flashing red light. I explained to the officer that the traffic light was a flashing red light but he still insisted on arguing with me and wrote me a ticket. I checked the box on the ticket that I request to challenge the ticket in court with the officer present. Court day came and the officer didn't show in court so my infraction was dismissed.
Actually, if the officer thought the driver was doing 10% over 20 or ever 25 mph, and it turned out that the real speed limit was actually 30, then by his own words, the cop clocked the fellow driving under the speed limit.
It's not like they're aren't enough real speeders out there. Around here you could be going 55 in a 45 right past a deputy. Rolling through stop signs and red lights on right turns all over the place. Not sure what they're sitting there looking for. I'm guessing potential drug busts. That seems to be a high priority for them around here.
No, he stopped him because he thought driver whould have a phone in hands. The moment cop realized he was wrong, he tried to make up another reason for the stop.
It is scary and dangerous to let someone who is not honest to continue to serve as a law enforcement officer. This time he may only be lying about minor traffic infraction , what if the next time it can be a more serious crime that can wrongfully put someone in jail for life or worse.
It's partially because they're trained to project authority, command respect, shut down people arguing with them and force compliance. Being wrong means they lose the ability to do this, so they strive to appear to be right even when they're wrong. Training needs to change so they realise that compliance is voluntary unless you're detaining someone, and making sure that they have the training to know where they are allowed to detain someone.
I commend Mr. Patriot for already having the knowledge of his rights before. Being in Texas, he likely experienced or witnessed from other accounts the unlawful practices of Texas cops.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
This might be a big ask but if you were to put these videos into a playlist based on individual states so we can study our own states encounters would be awesome and put you on the next level
I like hearing about the different state laws. Isn’t this guy already putting huge amounts of research into each video without having to make a 50 state playlist for each video. And since the First Amendment covers all 50 states, I think that is kind of selfish.
to his defense he makes it clear with a disclaimer that his videos should not at all be construed as legal advice. making state based playlists for the purpose of him describing those state statutes to you for your use could go against that
@@m4rvinmartian he's voting and voicing his political standpoint. What are you doing? Have you ever voted? Have you ever attended a Com Meet? Blaming someone else for doing now thing is worse because you're starting a new conflict all together.
I agree that the system needs a minor change to create a third legal organization built around convicting criminals from the previous two organizations. But in this case I don’t think anything is required other then getting chewed out by their CO
I mean yeah. That applies to a lot of things. If I had a say the punishment for lying should be proportional to the damage inflicted. In this case not much.
This is probably one of the top five things people should know when being pulled over, when being questioned, when dealing with police. Super important!
@@noodlepoodlegirl also if a cop in the states is asking if you have anything expensive on you always say “no, just 5 bucks” but otherwise if they are asking for something reasonable and you aren’t breaking any laws just show it to them. They are probably just covering all of their bases.
@@noodlepoodlegirl true lol… they once told me they had me on camera setting off a firework… the same firework that I had (out of sheer shock, in order to Snapchat it to my friends) began video-recording the ignition of when I realized that the dude who lit it was actually about to light it in the middle of an apartment complex. The firework had then started a small fire in a bush, and I called 911 and remained on scene to make sure it got put out (which it did, by a couple of residents with fire extinguishers). 911 told me to call back if it reignited, I said okay, hung up, began to leave, and then the police pulled up and detained me for 3 hours in that uncomfortable ass squad car backseat, trying to tell me they had me on video and had witnesses saying I lit it… Don’t believe their lies lmao, I eventually got out with no charges.
I like how the cop insinuates he can leave instead of getting a supervisor. He was probably hoping the guy would leave so he could get him for running or some other BS.
C- is still in "average" range, and is therefore too high of a grade to give officers who intentionally lied and attempted to violate an innocent citizen's 4th Amendment rights. I can understand giving higher than an F for the reasons listed (i.e. didn't escalate to violence or an arrest), but I cannot agree with a grade any higher than a D+
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
He’s judging them on a actual system based on law not feelings. You guys are way too bloodthirsty. Based on previous grades it’s probably something like this F is for people to directly challenge and circumvent the law or use unwarranted violence. D is for people who made a significant and costly mistake but never directly challenged the law intentionally. C is for people who fucked up but never resulted in a loss. Nothing really happened here or was lost. So C
Thats the problem with traffic violations. They're not criminal and there's no victim. All they serve to do is enable police, with BROAD and arbitrary scope, to intrude on motorists for pretextual stops, and serve as revenue generation for literal road piracy
Also 99% of all cops: 99% of the general public knows when they're breaking the law (even though they have a law for every single picosecond of the day).
Mr. Patriot kind of gave him the excuse because he asked, “was I speeding?” Maybe if he hadn’t said that the cop would’ve had to dig around for another “reason” himself...
@@lacsuttle Nah, watch again. It was the doughnut dumpster who first brought up speeding after Mr. Patriot proved him wrong about holding the phone while driving.
Didn't rip the guy out of the car and arrest him after they lied therefore the cops get a C-. It just blows my mind how little accountability cops have for being terrible human beings
Lack of Police Accountability in the states is a real thing and is basically even when they break the law they are rarely convicted and jailed. But don’t automatically assume every cop is a bad person.
@@frankney8284 Treating every cop like a dirtbag before they do anything you are just antagonize them. If they think every person they deal with are out for them they will understandably be jumpy. Furthermore it’s good being cautious but never assume anything. Generalizing is just illogical and divisive. It’s not like thinking a cop is corrupt gives you some sort of advantage. And even a corrupt cop wouldn’t shoot you for no reason and you can’t just arrest someone with no evidence without backlash.
You will never dispel their suspicions for pulling you over and demanding ID when driving a vehicle as they can literally invent any number of additional violations they are "investigating": driving erratically, suspicious, "got a call", in a "high crime area", speeding, driving too slow, etc.
My favourite is the one where they saw you come out of a “known drug house”. Well, if you are so smart that you know that it’s a drug house, get a warrant and stop the drug house.
@@claiminglight You've never had a negative interaction with a cop have you? If its not clear from the video the entire point is that the cops will make up anything to get what they want from you.
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 Of course I have. Worse than you, kid. But I've also had good and neutral ones. As far as your zealous attitude that *all* cops will make up *anything*... you need to drink a lot less of the kool-aid. Bad actors are out there, but this channel is a net negative force. Ya'll are a niche echo chamber of zealotry, absent any real world experience or sense.
I have been involved in automobile racing for decades. Even on a track where you know distances between landmarks it is really hard to judge speed by eye. I am pretty good at it, after decades on tracks, I know by heart. There is no way this "Police" could know what the speed was of this guy's car. I am sort of an expert, and I doubt I could be accurate enough to stop somebody. The only way this would work is if the guy was driving extremely fast or extremely slow.
@@markrayes2973 Yes I think almost every track has markers, so you can compare times in different segments of road courses. On the ovals you have the straights and the corners that are know quantities. You can learn to count in your head and tell if a car is going faster or slower. To do it on regular city streets at that slow of a speed with no known markers seems impossible. I doubt a judge would let it stand in a court.
In Tennessee I was stopped by a state trooper. He thought I wasn't wearing my seat belt. When he walked up and saw it on he asked if I had it on the whole time (he knew I did because my arm was out the window) I said absolutely he said your free to go. We talked for a couple of minutes I told him I thought he pulled me over because my passenger wasn't wearing their seat belt. He said he didn't see that and that wasn't why he pulled me over so he couldn't even ticket the passenger. By this time the passenger had the seat belt on. After talking for the few minutes I left.
@@YourKingJDG if your in my car without a seatbelt I think you need a ticket. My husband never wears it and it gets under my skin. My car now dings till he puts it on I love it.
That’s a pleasant encounter. Depending on how it’s handled I think this is actually fine. A officer of the law politely reminding you he’s seen way too many car accidents and that you are not immune to them and to please buckle their seatbelts and be safe.
I know a guy who was pulled over. The cop asked if he was wearing his seat belt before being pulled over. He admitted he wasn't. The cop said good thing you didn't lie because your seatbelt is out the door scrapping on the road creating sparks. That's why I pulled you over. Haha.
Not all law enforcement is corrupt. I religiously watch these videos to further ensure I’m doing my job properly. I enjoy watching these to further enhance my knowledge
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall: (1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and (2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
This isn’t a right. Just because it’s not required of you doesn’t mean it’s a right. A right is the select few predetermined protections that are irrevocable by any court of law or congress.
"You were going 10% over the limit" "What's the speed limit officer?" "I don't know" "So I'm going 10% over unknown?" He needs to file a complaint because that officer was 100% lying based on that alone. How could he say anyone was doing 10% over a number THAT HE DOESNT KNOW? 10% over 20 mph? 10% over 25 mph? Absolutley crazy.
I can tell his kids will grow up right, especially witnessing their dad stick up for himself in situations like this. Of course they may not remember but still!
Even if the boy doesn't consciously remember doesn't mean it won't be stored somewhere in his subconscious. Either way the boy does have an advantage having a dad who knows his rights
He’s judging them on a actual system based on law not feelings. Ya’ll are too bloodthirsty. Based on previous grades it’s probably something like this F is for people who directly challenge and circumvent the law or use unwarranted violence intentionally. D is for people who made a significant and costly mistake but never directly challenged the law intentionally. C is for people who fucked up but never resulted in a loss. Nothing really happened here or was lost. So C
@@FrostReave Why not an F? Because the cop didn’t kill him or beat him? You know it’s wrong when you have to grade someone for assault. These cops deserved an F because they’re ignorant and that can cost a life
He claims he visually estimated a few miles over the speed limit without even knowing the speed limit. And he wants us to believe he didn't just make that up on the spot. What a clown
YUP BIG 🤡
That's racist
@@lextalionis8616 your a clown too
U defund the police u get clowns. Duh
@@lextalionis8616 ?
So he was about to be like “I visually saw you going over the limit by 2.5 mph”. LOL bruh. That cop deserves a F
Cop claims he was going "10%" over the limit but doesn't know the limit in that zone. Classic.
hes a bootlicker now. if you violate someone's rights they should auto get an f
That method of checking the license for legintmesy and making stuff up on a ticket and report because the driver handed the license looks similar to the strategy of drugs "sniffing" cops because you let them search your car they can and too many times will take it as you just pled guilty regardless if there were no drugs in the car, they knew entirely what they were doing is wrong.
Agreed, this is F behavior. "But we've seen similar situations go much worse" yeah, and those are worse, but this one is still really bad. These cops shouldn't get an average score just because they didn't get into a violent altercation.
This channel sometimes. 🤦♂️
F-
I’ve seen this one. The cop should’ve just taken the L instead of trying to create something that didn’t exist. Good job by the driver.
indeed it was hilarious. we need more guys southern guys like this to take a stand against the tyranny
I’ve seen EVERY video AA POST. Makin a pretty good LIVIN off other folks work. I’d sure love to had a professor with his grading curve. Times have definitely changed. BUT IN. O WAY FOR THEBETTER. I feel sorry for you youngsters. America use to be are really nice place to live. But with 90% of cops, IGNORANT of the laws and still being able to continue to police in this way will be the DOWNFALL of FREEDOM. And to think this all started with PARTICIPATION TROPHIES
The most important thing for cops is to not take an L cuz of pride and ego
@@CLUB-th7pp are you trying to say AtA is getting money off of other peoples' work? Because AtA does some of the most detailed and accurate analyses of these situations that exist on this platform. He adds *SO* much value to the cause, just because he isnt out doing audits himself doesnt make him a freeloader.
@@chrstfer2452 capitalizing off of someone else’s downfall is not to desirable in my book. Jusmyopinion
It's absolutely astonishing how quickly they default to straight up lying, and they'll do it right on camera.
That's what a cop is all about....lies.
It's human nature...self preservation if you will.
They will even plant drugs while their own badycams are on recording it. There are many vidoes on here of cops doing that
@@walkingdeadman4208 Isn't that dumb they're so corrupt until they plant stuff in peoples cars and they are so sure that they'll get away with it . and they have gotten away literally with murder.
The worst part is, they are taught to lie, manipulate and deceive in every way possible to get what they want.
I remember a story where the cop in court said he eyeballed the person speeding without actually using a radar. The judge picked up a pencil and threw it across the room. He then asked the cop "how fast was that pencil going?". The cop was dumbfounded. Case dismissed.
Ty for sharing this!! I read this and rolled laughing!!🤣😂🤣😂🤣
GREAT Judge!!!
Same!
Is this a true story because I am cracking up, I would love to read about it.
That sounds exactly like something I would have done if I was the judge. I tell you the crime in this country is outrageous and the crime in our government legal system is outrageous. If there was a scientific social study done of the 60 years after they took the Bible and prayer out of our schools and the 60 years previous they would have to admit wholeheartedly it was a complete failure and needs to be reversed immediately.
They get an F, pulling a speeding accusation out of his ass on the spot is absolutely unacceptable.
He's really been softballing these lately. I'd personally go with D, since it was really bad but could've been worse.
ATA seems to use "A+" through "F" as a replacement for the 10-1 scale. Which I often find annoying, as many places a "D" is still a passable grade, and "F" is a whole range of grades, of varying levels of failure; ranging from barely not passable to utterly abysmal failure.
I really think ATA should just switch to 1-10, as that seems to be more in line with how he wants to grade things. Or he needs to have some type of caveat on any "F" grade to explain how bad of a failure it was.
This is what I said this was a terrible grade he should've given an F to the clowns
Ok have a good day! Lol
If you give these guys an F, you give no separation from the cops who would have escalated this to an arrest or worse. I understand AtA's use of a "curve" when grading - it can't all be As and Fs.
the fact that cops lack the ability to just say "oh yep sorry thats my bad youre free to go" blows my mind
"You are speeding but I don't know the speed limit" I would have brought that up and said bye
It's not a lack of the ability. It's an issue of pride and the lack of character to acknowledge their mistakes.
@@charlesmetherd9136 same thing, either way they're too entitled to be in such a high power position. it's embarrassing
@@PaperClip26 no not either way, he just said what you said but with more words😂
@@charlesmetherd9136 Friend lacking the ability to acknowledge your mistakes and lacking the ability to say sorry is literally the same thing lol
I was stopped by an officer that then turned off his lights and pulled up next to me after about a minute and said I had the wrong car. he was looking for a stolen car that matched mine. He apologized, We both laughed , I said I hope you find it and that was it. It’s perfectly fine to make a mistake. It’s the ego stroking that causes these issues
Yes, I was stopped a few times incorrectly.
@@wvrjl Similar thing like above? Or can you explain?
@@PiLLO360 - There were two times. In one case, the cop was looking for a car involved in some kind of crime that involved a hit-and-run (I don't know if it was just a hit & run). Apparently, it was the same type of car that I had at the time, which was a common car (a Dodge Aries / a K-car). My car had damage on it, but that damage was from a while ago. There was another time where I wasn't in a car, I was walking home from a party with a boy, and the police stopped us because apparently a couple was stealing from houses. We were walking home quite early, 6 a.m. or 7 a.m., but we weren't carrying anybody's property.
So how’s the new car ;)
Exactly, I bet, if that cop would've let the guy go his way, after he saw, that his mobile phone was fixated and NOT in his hands, everything would've been fine.
Cop just doesn’t get it. He can’t be wrong even admitting he’s wrong.
It happens to lots of cops and is a recipe for disaster
His supervisor couldn't either. The entire department is definitely trash.
Personal ego and the us vs them mentality is a big problem our law enforcement.
Ego, thats there problem
Cops need to be given "ego training." They need to be taught to recognize when they are being ego-driven and abusing their authority because of their ego.
We need to hear cops APOLOGIZE more often. When they are WRONG, they actually need to admit it and move on
It'll make the public have much more trust in them.
My guess is they are trained to avoid any admission of wrongdoing during interactions in the field. An apology can be construed as evidence of wrongdoing and may be evidence used in a civil suit. The same reason you should never admit wrong doing or apologize after any traffic accident.
@@JustOneEarth Astute reasoning. That's most likely it.
But then again, officers have qualified immunity 🤷🏽♂️
he did admit his mistake. wasn't wrong or lying about the license, and could have enforced that if he chose. Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
I’d rather see politicians do this first. Once they start we can work our way down the public servant list.
"How fast was I going?"
"You were going 10% over the speed limit."
"Okay, what was the speed limit?"
"I don't know, but if it was 25, you were doing 27.5."
Dude managed to make the cop look like a moron.
The is an expression that I like to apply to this illegal stop.
"What's the difference between ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care."
That's how this towns cops feel about enforcing laws and respecting Rights.
He didn't need any help with that😆😆😆
And the speed limit was 30 so he wasn't actually speeding lol
You are too kind. The officer demonstrated beyond reasonable doubt that he is in fact a moron. :)
27.498634495 going by eye lol
These videos need to be shown in police academies across the country.
But then how are they gonna make money from tickets?!
Nooooooo don't teach them to give better answers this cop is such a narc he's switching on himself and I love it
If I was a supervisor of fuzz I would make it mando. This stuff can be outstanding training material. If I was a cop I’d definitely watch this stuff as much as I could.
And a refresher course on the Constitution laws and and state laws and code of conduct policies every three months. Then none of them can claim not knowing.
Well since democrats have defended many departments it's only going to get worse not better.
i can’t even be mad cause it’s so hilarious that a cop claimed someone was going 3MPH over the speed limit but didn’t even know if the speed limit was 20,25, or even 30…
Surely this should be perjury, libel or something and therefore a criminal offence.
Where I am in Ontario, cops won't even look at you unless you're going at least 10kph over the limit and paced or radared.
@@johnandrews3568 Cops acting like this is largely unique to small town America.
@@MissSpaz One more reason I don't go south of the border.
@@MissSpaz I don't understand why that is though. Aren't all those department heads voted by the people?
"You need to get re-calibrated, man."
This is pure entertainment.
That comment took me straight out
Lmao
Yep that one had me rolling
My jaw dropped
I still think the first officer deserved worst then a C- tbh. He was obviously just tryna meet his quota by wronging an innocent civilian.
"Visual estimates" should be thrown out entirely. The cop didn't even know the speed limit. And he clearly just made up a new charge on the spot so he could be "right". A clear abuse of power by an insecure cop.
So someone is going 67 in a 40 zone southbound, but the radar is pointed to northbound road...
@@joelsefur666 I get what you're saying. Major speeding is identifiable to the naked eye,. But couldn't a decent lawyer poke holes in even that argument?
@@joelsefur666
Victimless crime. Why should I get fined because OTHER PEOPLE are bad drivers at speed?
AMEN TO THAT, gives to much power to the police to pull someone over for no reason.
@@joelsefur666
Danger shouldn't be illegal because the level of danger presented is dependent almost entirely on the driver. Some people can drive better at 100mph than others can drive at 40. Why charge the professional doing 100 and not the granny doing 40?
How about you get charged with speeding AFTER you've caused damage? Then all of the bad drivers will get all of the tickets.
Speeding tickets don't discourage me from speeding anyways, they just make me want to waste the courts time. I'd sue the department, making sure they waste tens of thousands of dollars of dollars during the defense. I'd spam them with FOIA requests and subpoenas for records that have never been digitized. I'd hire a PI to track the officers and their loved ones, then tell the targets that they're being watched. I'm also going to teach my kids to behave the same way whenever some tyrant attempts to limit their freedoms.
I'd say first cop F and supervisor C. That first cop needs to be suspended w/o pay for a week & forced to watch 20 hours of Audit the Audit before he can pull over another citizen.
I concur ^
Have you heard of ego? This cop is rife with it. There is no amount of training that will save him. He needs to be fired
I agree on the split grade but I would give Officer Wilson even better than a C because he actually was correct in his interpretation of the Texas motor vehicle statute - the fact that the Texas motor vehicle statute is unconstitutional is not his doing - His job is to be aware of the statute, understand it and enforce it - but all of that being said, he realized that the right thing to do was let Mr. Patriot go, and he did the right thing.
You gave these cops a C-??? The first cop lied and had NO reason whatsoever to stop Mr.Patriot. These cops are EVERYTHING that is wrong with SO many government employees and deserve an F!
Affirmative action.
The grade was only given bcuz the 2nd officer let him go without arresting or even giving a hard time. If it was based solely on the first officers experience I would think it would be lower.
he should have asked for the supervisors supervisor
I haven’t finished it yet but normally he assigns a grade to each officer.
@@oiram9466Sounds like more excuses being made and more bad cops not being held accountable. The first cop should be held accountable for his actions….letting the innocent citizen go without a ticket doesn’t excuse the first cops behavior
7:20 telling a grown human he needs to get recalibrated is the funniest thing I've heard all day.
that was hilarious🤣
I actually laughed out loud on that one..
Just shows this COP is lying his ass off ...
It's obvious i wasn't the only one that caught that with a belly roll🤣
Nice notted, had too check it and hahaha
If he handed over his license, I guarantee the cop would've written a citation, and told him to let the judge decide.
Nah, it's all pretext to see if there's a warrant
They use the process as punishment.
@@jamesoverholt878 exactly, he said you give me your licence and I'll give you a verbal and you'll be on your way which is all well and good except the constitution says no my friend you haven't met the requirements of the amendment, learn what the 4th amendment is or continue to violate people's rights (and they say auditor's aren't making differences, 20 years ago that supervisor would've demanded him to indenify.
@@ThePeachtree69 yep pretty much
@@jamesoverholt878 I dont think so...with no disrespect and not trying to come up with "labels" here... but this guy doesn't tick the box as someone that could have an open warrant.....
He’s going 10% over the speed limit, but he doesn’t know what the speed limit is.
“The speed limit is posted, you were going very fast sir” 🤪
I'm lmfao at these fn tyrants
I was pulled over one time because the cop thought my sticker was out of date. He came up, realized it was good and he said sorry and to have a good night. Thats how it is supposed to be done.
Too funny ....
@@matthewchick8908 yes. And thanks for adding this. It's so easy to watch a bunch of these and come away thinking all cops are like this. Similar when you watch/hear incidents like this from other professions like Nursing/Medical. Definitely in a rabbit hole and enjoying these videos bringing aholes to light.
the fact the officer used "percentage" to describe the guys speed is in and of itself hilarious lol
thank you. 10% over??? really.
It's the language in the ticket. You have to be going over 10% above the speed limit to get that kind of ticket
@@someguy3717 the fact that the officer is quoting the law directly instead of the facts of the specific case is just more evidence that he was trying to stick a violation on the guy with no evidence.
@@someguy3717 didn't even realize I copied your first few words haha. Perhaps I'm not as creative writer as I thought. Anyway, have a good one mate 👍
Texas statutes state that a public roadway has a reasonable leeway of 10% or 5 mph, whichever is less. This means a 20mph school zone is 22, not 25; residential is 33mph, not 35; but highways of 70mph are 75, not 77.
This is actual Texas DPS statute and something you should know if you drive in the state of Texas, especially if you do more than 22 in a school zone, where fines are doubled.
This is why everyone should have a dash cam
That and all the cool & crazy Russian driver videos
They’re not expensive anymore.
And why it should be a felony to enforce any law without a working body cam with audio.
@@merlin4real Immediate firing and rendered the officer's testimony below the citizens.
Too many times, law enforcement depositions/testimony are held as correct without any video/audio evidence.
Right, I lost on a speeding ticket because I didn't have the cop recorded saying that he thought he had lost track of me on the freeway, because apparently he was supposedly clocking from the opposite direction, passed 4 lanes of traffic and supposedly had to catch up with me, despite me driving with traffic and not passing people. And how he supposedly lost track of my car visually for over a mile as he had to go around from south bound to catch up to me going north bound and I had only gotten on the on freeway like 3 miles back to start with. I believe he got me mixed up with another car, because I was doing almost 10 under what he said I was. But I lacked the video to challenge how he could know he had the right car after "losing" me for over a mile. And how he could get a clear radar hit across 4 lanes of traffic all going my speed or faster.
People were literally passing me where he told me that he tagged my speed. If I had a dash cam I could have used people passing me and what he said to refute my ticket.
Officer: "License please, I caught you speeding"
Driver: "Really? What's the speed limit?"
Officer: "Idk man, 10% slower than whatever speed you were going at"
To be precise, 9.09% slower :)
Lmfao!!
😂
Duh Suuupreme Court sez coppers don't have to know no stinkin' speed limits to lock your ass up, boy. Best get your mind right, boy. 👮
@@clavessin12 Math is weird
The best part is the cop said 10% because he didn't want to give a number because he didn't know the speed limit, lol. When else have you ever heard a cop give you your speed in a percentage over the limit?
Imagine stopping someone for passing the speed limit but not knowing the speed limit 🤣
This driver has about 30 IQ points on these officers. It would be hard to be so articulate and logical under the circumstances but he decisively pointed out the flaws in every argument presented to him. Well done, sir!.
i haven't gotten to this part in the video yet but lol 10% over the speed limit cop is a visual estimation master AND a math genius
He said 10% because that is the offense that he would write the ticket for. I have gotten a ticket and it said that the offense was 10% over the posted speed limit. He just quoted the ticketable offense
@@greysonmondini1303 ahh! I didn’t know that!
If cops are allowed to ask for your license even in the situation where they were 100% wrong and have already admitted it, then that gives police blanket permission to pull over anyone at any time about anything. "Sorry, I thought you didn't have a windshield. license please." ""My mistake, I can see now that your wheels are round, and not shaped like triangles. License and registration."
Let’s say you made an enemy that has connections to corrupt pigs; that enemy could theoretically have his pig friends stop you everyday on your way to and from work to ensure your late to work and home perhaps leading to a termination of employment and less time at home with your family clear harassment possible if cops can stop you just to see you’re a licensed driver
I don't like the color of your truck license and registration please, I don't like who you have with you license and registration please, I don't like the color of your skin license and registration please I mean we're getting to that point.
@@tonebonebgky2 increasingly becoming Nazi Germany. But everyone is underneath them.
@@tonebonebgky2 they not even saying please lol
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Let me get this straight, this cop doesn’t know what the speed limit is, yet he’s claiming this man is speeding. Sounds like this officer is on drugs.
reasonable suspicion towards the cop established, if you ask me ^^
Sounds like this cop does not have personal liability for his actions
Police power is a hell of a drug
The dumbass cop implies that they can check ze papers like ze nazi’s
"You were speeding."
"Really? How fast do you think I was going?"
Cops pulls out a slide rule then realizes he doesn't know what the posted limit is and also that he has no idea how to work a slide rule.
"Let me see your license."
😂👏
Haaa!
I burst out laughing with him when the cop said he was going “10%” over the speed limit. That’s just one of the most absurd statements I’ve heard
Agreed. That's some talent.
Especially when 10% = 2.5 MPH, what a joke, is that humanly possible?
I work in law enforcement and my jaw dropped when the officer said the vehicle was going 10 percent over the limit but did not know what the speed limit was. Why didn't the officer just say he was sorry for his mistake about the phone and move on instead of trying to save face with the speeding charge. A police officer is human just like everybody else we make mistakes there is no shame in it take responsibility for it learn from it then move on. I used to be so proud to tell people what I did for a living anymore I don't tell people because of the response I always get because of things like this.
All cops are Pigs! I hate you
He stated why "am I free to go then well no because you seem in a hurry lol
It’s a case of a phew bad apple ruins the bunch, theres nothing that common people despise more than abuse of authority because we’re the ones that give you that authority yet cops act like that authority comes from god himself.
Sad but true, I miss GREAT Officers, Cops just cop out generalities to violate their fellow man
@@D4zz13R when I started out in this profession the one thing I was taught that really stuck with me was if you show respect 9 out of 10 times you'll get respect.
How did you not automatically give the cops an F? He got caught obviously lying so that he wouldn’t look like an idiot, and he doubled down. That’s an immediate F.
He said in the video. The grades are based out of what policing looks like today and the videos we see here everyday. Even though this stop was fucked, it's less fucked because there was no violence or unlawful arrests on the part of the police. Which is fucking sad and terrifying.
What's your name sir? Mr. Patriot lol
I agree with the c just cause the end result. These knucklehead cops are hard headed as hell so for them to get off their high horse they deserve some credit in todays gangster police era
@@mobileebikerentals2940 So the cops have moved the bar so incredibly low that even lying about a traffic stop and harassing citizens gets an average grade?
@@SilentMott Exactly
The officer basically admitted: “I pulled you over for one thing and you proved you weren’t doing that, so I’m now making up something else on the spot to keep you detained”
It's all bullshit even if you prove you done nothing wrong they still have to dig to pin something on to you they cand just let thier bullshit cop ego go and admit they were wrong if I was a cop and I was proven wrong I'd let the guy go you think I wanna write a bullshit report or sit in court wast the Judge and everyone's time just for the Judge to say yea he was right your wrong lol
Yep.
"How fast was I going?"
"You were going as fast as what would make it illegal, whatever speed that was" *facepalm
"I will only give you a warning, do you still want to see my supervisor?"
Sounds like admitting he lied
He knew he had nothing on mr patriot. He didnt want a complaint on his record , or the other officers to know what a dumb comment about going 10% over the speed limit, while he didn't even know what it was
Yes son, I still want to talk to your dad.
Cop 2 deserves a C-, the first deserves an F. If he's willing to lie about this sort of thing, I guarentee you he lies all the time in his official capacity, which means he probably doesn't stop lying when he gets to court or is writing reports. Keep in mind that police perjury is very common.
My gut feeling is they saw the camera and suspected he was an auditor. I can't even give the supervisor a C-. I don't expect them to know the nuances of every law, but *if LEOs don't know the basics for carrying out a detention (a common officer tasks), it is fair to question if they are minimally unqualified for their job.*
every time i see a video like this.
i swear cops are like fuck the law. fuck the ammendments. fuck the people. i do what i want and u cant do shit.
and the people just eat that shit up....
how weak are americans? go fix your damn system already. you have a 90+ year old as president for crying out loud.
the guy cant even walk straight. let alone run america.
if korea or russia at this point breaks out a war. america will kill itself before it can help europe.
I don't think the first officer deserves an F. While what he claimed to have observed seemed unbelievable, I think he probably knows himself that he *can* gather reasonable suspicion from a visual estimate of speed, he simply did a poor job communicating this to Mr. Patriot (whether or not the officer actually believed Patriot was speeding). It appeared that the first Officer was in need of educating himself. It's important to acknowledge that he did, at one point, admit he was wrong, and that he didn't have Patriot clocked, so your "guarantee" that he "lies all the time" seems pretty ridiculous.
@@steet2 Nope, he didn't even know the speed limit - he was making shit up on the fly, and trapped himself in his lie (he never even said how fast he thought he was going). He illegally extended the detention when there was no longer RS, so he could go on a fishing expedition. LEO violating the law = automatic F.
@@1SCme okay, for one, the man was never detained. There was no "illegal detention." For two, yes he admitted he was mistaken, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a liar. He MAY have genuinely thought the man was speeding. Look, I get that it's cool and trendy to bash on cops, but it's more important to be reasonable, especially when auditing. I wouldn't say the first officer's actions would warrant disciplinary action, which is what I'd equate to conduct deserving of an F grade. Please try to be a bit more level headed.
The cop said he observed him going 10% over the speed limit but then didn't know the posted speed limit. That's completely screwed.
I would have asked the supervisor to do a breathalizer test on his colleague. 😆
Hey your comment crossed the line …..
But I have no idea where the line is…
He changed his vision from mp/h to %
You give all these pong explinations which says one thing but then not to long after give another interpretation in "some courts". IN OTHER WORDS ITS A CATCH 22.
The funnier thing is no matter the speed limit... 10% is not even that much lmao. Say the speed limit was 60 hypothetically. Omg he was going 66. Really? Lol
"I'm being molested by my government while doing nothing wrong" story of our lives
We need egoless police officers. The guy was 100% ok to pull him over for the phone. Then he just simply needs to acknowledge the mistake and move on. As for requiring the drivers license afterwards, even IF it was legal to require it, it’s 100% ego to ask for it. He knows it, his supervisor knows it, we know it.
I mean yeah we need everyone to stop being such a self righteous and stubborn egotist not just cops. But it’s human nature and there are so many people incapable of change
Just need more prior testing, training and oversight. It would cull a lot of applicants who have major red flags.
@@FrostReave and cops suck
it’s not like every police officer is egoed. but there sure is a lot of egoed cops out there and that is worrying enough
Definitely agree. Along with doctors or nurses with egos too. You are going into a field that has a personable component and they don’t take that into account smh
Cop: i paced you with my eyes and determined that you were 10% over the speed limit
Motorist: what's the speed limit?
Cop: i don't know
Wow
He estimated the speed while looking g at his phone and did not have the visual acuity to see the guy must have gorilla arms or it wasn't in his hands.
Enforcing the LAWL.
Wow. Really that says it all...WOW
When a cop doesn't know what the speed limits are, he should not be able to claim the driver was speeding! By the way the speed limit was 30 and even the cop agreed that the driver was going 27.5...still under the posted speed limit. Lol
Anyone, who is a liar, deserves to be killed.
I find it odd that he claimed he was going 16mph. But the speed limit was 30 lol that’s substantially more dangerous than going 10% over the speed limit lol
Isn’t it illegal to go under the speed limit by 10 or more? (Canadian so have no clue lol) if so, would going 16 in a 30 be dangerous?
@@PtylerBeats Maybe he slowed down because he saw the cop (which he explains in the video).
@@YeOldeYeet per previous videos on this channel its 15 or more under the speed limit in some US states. But 10-15mph is a lot more significant at 30mph than 60-70.
Maybe he was stuck in traffic or just coming out of a turn.
What’s actually surprising here is that the cop knows what 10% of 25 is!!
And thus was able to determine the guy's speed to a fraction of a mph.
If you see a cop, or speed trap, while driving, looking at your speedometer is an automatic response. Of course he knew what speed he was doing.
The officer didn't even know what the damn speed limit was.
Good stuff. As a Texan, the wording of that statue makes me want to "display" my license for the cop but not give it to him, because "the law" requires me to keep it in my possession "while operating" my car
Technically, that's all you have to do. ...may cause things to get out of hand depending on the officer, but per the letter of the law, you only have to show it to him. The Battousi does it all the time and I've seen a few others get away with it. But I've also seen cops drag people out of the vehicle.
@@invictusbp1prop143 Yeah, if I have the extra time to deal with a potentially retaliatory cop being a jerk I'll be doing this the next time I'm stopped
@@gw6667 Dude... but yes. That is LITERALLY how it goes down. Crack window 1cm, put license, reg and insurance against the window. Say nothing. Pro-bonus, if you have them in a binder sleeve together, so you look coordinated.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
i believe you can press it against the inside of your closed windshield for the officer to see and be in compliance
@@m4rvinmartian That's a waste of time. Cops can legally demand you roll your window down or exit your vehicle. You clearly aren't a Texan, otherwise you'd know we use 2-in-1 windshield stickers for registration and inspection. A binder just makes you look like a tool
Cop actually admits he was going 27.5. In a 30 zone. So he wasn’t speeding based on their flawed logic.
The logic isnt proven at this point, so technically, the cop is making a ‘valid’ point. Both of them are unaware of the actual speed limit. We have the hindsight knowledge. But the cop is still an azz!
If anything, going 16 in a 30 zone could theoretically be called going too slow, but the cop already said "speeding" so he couldn't change his story more than he already had.
and also even if the speed limit was 25, then he'd only be going 2.5mph OVER which is over and STIIIILLLLLL not speeding. So under literally no circumstances could he have been speeding based on the cop's logic
@@tirsden so you can never go below 30? What kind of sense does that make? If there's a fallen tree blocking the way you just have to plow through it at 30?
@@tirsden Nah, I think he was already overly cautious of the cop, remember he "overtook" him at 16, probably on purpose to not trigger a reaction, the cop still went for it.
I have a feeling this zone is well known for this kind of thing in the community and he was just trying not to get "caught" by the officer, the phone being installed on the passenger side is kind of interesting too, it would mean he had "no way" to be using it or it would have being noticeable if he stretched out to put it there.
Nothing scarier than needing and calling for an adult just to get another toddler with a badge and gun.
I remember one time I was with my brother when he got pulled over. The office walked up, got a closer look at the registration sticker, then apologized and sent us on our way. That's how this interaction should have gone, but then this video wouldn't exist.
I had a similar situation with an inspection sticker. The first thing he said was "i didn't see your sticker" as he pointed to my brand new, 5 days old inspection sticker. still demanded all my information. I was ignorant to my rights and gave him all the info, but looking back, I shouldn't have.
@@Tekkykek no you did the right thing. Why make a big deal about an ID and escalate the situation? You could end up with a slap on the wrist for “disorderly conduct” or some other b.s. and spend the night in jail. Or diffuse the situation by giving him your ID (unlike the emotional man in the video) and go about your day.
@@Jeff-nb8iy I personally, would at least voice my discomfort with the situation, then say something to the effect of "I'm uncomfortable with my rights being violated, but on the threat of imprisonment, I will identify myself, but this is not of my own volution"
@@Jeff-nb8iy if you dont use your rights, you lose them.
@@Jeff-nb8iy That is how you slowly give up your rights. It starts with this. Don't take freedom for granted, man. Seriously.
Classic cop bullshit. "Well the reason you're still here is because you requested a supervisor. All you had to do was voluntarily surrender your rights and you'd have been on your way."
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
@@1981bevo cute. Now do the part where a cop needs legitimate probable cause to pull you over and detain you in order to legally demand identification. In addition, as the video showed, there are multiple appellate and supreme court decisions affirming the fact that a cop can't just randomly demand ID. Nice try though. Go lick boots somewhere else.
@@SierraTangoGuns i simply stated the Texas statue for displaying your license. you have some misdirected anger issues you need to work on.
@@1981bevo and you conveniently ignored all that pesky stuff about probable cause, reasonable suspicion, and SCOTUS.
@@SierraTangoGuns and now you make assumptions about me for simply stating the Texas statute. you got some problems.
I love how the cop tries to gaslight him about his request for a supervisor. He asked for a supervisor because you were unlawfully asking for his identification, then the second he asked for one you tried to flip it and say he was only being “detained” because he had asked for a supervisor.
The smile and wave he gave the other officer as he drove off was priceless.
“I don’t know what the posted speed limit is, I just know you were going exactly 10% over it.” Priceless
IKR? Bullies with badges!
So basically it boils down to "You were going 10% over Ugh.. let me go check the sign and it will be 10% above that. I'm really accurate at judging speeds."
I was so mad when the cop said he didn't know the speed limit but he claimed he was going over it. How does that even make sense
Not just going over it, but going 10% over the speed limit. That's pretty specific and pretty impressive when you know the speed limit.
This cop knows he’s caught violating an educated mans rights. His Ego cant let him back down and this demonstrates how dangerous this cop is going to be !
“Oh the reason why I pulled him over was impossible? Hmmm I’ll make up something else then”
This cop is foul! Power tripping, lying, violating someone's 4th amendment rights knowingly and on purpose.......yeah he should not have a badge
I really love how much fun the driver was having tearing that case apart.
he was wrong about the license.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
@@1981bevo finish watching the video
@@slimjim69423 i did. the driver didn't tear anything apart. if the cops wanted enforce the license statute, it would be up to the judge to decide if they felt the cop's RAS of the speeding accusation holds enough water to demand the license. but it is not to be argued on the side of the road. so the cops could have very well cited him for it.
@@1981bevo i didnt say he tore anything apart, nor should he have to. even if he had been cited for such a thing it does not make it legal. a cop can quite literally accuse you and cite you for any crime they so please, and like you said in the end its up to the judge, but it doesnt make it legal. I said finish the video because as explained "an individual operating or travelling in an automobile does not lose all expectation of privacy simply because the automobile and its use are subject to government regulation".
A case of LAWL enforcement.
“You need to get recalibrated.”
😂 💀
ALWAYS ASK "Is that the only infraction today?" FIRST... then dispell the inquiry. You'll stay safe this way.
That’s a great idea but it still relies on the trustworthiness of the officer for it to be successful. The existence of this channel proves that doesn’t always exist, unfortunately.
They can lie
They will just skirt the question and say we'll deal with one at a time.
If it's the type of officer that will claim you were speeding on a road where they admit to not knowing the speed limit I doubt that would matter.
Relying on their honesty is the funniest thing I’ve ever heard. The guy could’ve told Patriot to his face that he clocked him going 67mph until he gives up or Patriot confesses to doing so. Qualified immunity gives them the opportunity to lie without consequence.
How fair is this for the citizen? It’s like calling someone’s bluff only to lose that hand then claiming that hand shouldn’t count. It’s ridiculous.
When the supervisor says, "i'll let you go"... Did he really had to say it like that? What a power trip. Even when letting the guy go he still has the need to let him know it's only because he is allowing it lol
They can’t help themselves.
It makes them feel better 😅 imagine living in a household with someone like that. Kids or wife
@@thatoneguy4209 well, at this point we’re all well aware that cops can’t help themselves and LOVE beating their wives.
reaching
@@morso7355 Nope
This officer gilpin makes such a good witness in court. He😊 said the driver was going 10% over the speed limit. When asked whats the speed limit he actually said he doesnt know. You cant make this shit up!
“You were speeding”
“What’s the speed limit here?”
“I don’t know”
Ah yes, law enforcement at its best.
Also yes you were going atleast 10% over the limit though so what ever the limit is.
here they have a saying : getting ur license from a pack of butter...
cops in america got them from a cereal box i guess :D
And yet again, generalizing all police officers just because one messed up.
Seriously why are all the commenters so out for blood when it comes to cops in this channel. Yeah there are some bad cops but this is a channel based on analyzing the worst of the worst. Don’t apply it to all cops.
LAWL enforcement.
It is insane that the courts have concluded that officers can continue to detain someone after RAS has been dispelled. They cannot do it when the person is NOT in a car; they should not be able to when the detainee IS in a car.
What blew me away is the cop didn't even know the speed limit lol
But somehow knew he was speeding
😂😂😂 right
Officer gets a L- .. and a suspension for being high af on the job
I find it odd that the reason these guys even get a C- is because they managed to waddle over the extremely low bar of "this didn't end with gunshots or an arrest." They get an "F+" because they pulled him over for non-reasons, lied about the stop so they didn't look stupid, harassed him until a superior showed up, but finally let him go.
“You were going 10% above the speed limit.”
“What is the speed limit?”
“I don’t know!”
🤣🤣🤣
And if the speed limit was 30, and if the officer knew he was going “10% over” the speed limit. Pulling someone over for 3mph over is fucked.
My parents taught me to drive 10 km over the speed limit , (6 miles) if I am in a hurry. Most reasonable cops won’t pull you over for a speed that could be a discrepancy in your speedometer , or something that could be caused by having your foot a little too heavy on the pedal for a second without looking
Priceless 🤣
I’m dead bruh
But that's the funniest shit I ever heard officer say they try to explain the dumbass why are they trying to initiate just because they feel stupid that they were wrong and can't accept it
"You need to get recalibrated dude" underrated quote from Mr. Patriot
another master class in dealing with tyrants
It’s always comical when law enforcement grasp for straws to not look incompetent on body cam. Great content
Doesn’t matter it’s Texas.
Texas law only requires that you show your ID to a police officer under certain circumstances. These circumstances include: after you've been arrested, when you are driving, and when you are carrying a handgun…
I posted this initially when I saw this on another channel but I'll ask it here.
Can anyone tell me how an officer could know he was going 2.5 miles per hour over the limit without a radar and without a speedometer giving tenths of a mile???
This cop is not only the biggest liar I've ever seen but a complete egomaniac for not allowing the driver to leave because of his own mistakes.
@@JohnTheRevelat0r I know that most judges will toss a ticket for speeding within 10%.
I got pulled over once by a motorcycle cop as he claimed that I ran a red light. The light in question was on a street with a public school and during the summer, the light is changed to a flashing red light. I explained to the officer that the traffic light was a flashing red light but he still insisted on arguing with me and wrote me a ticket. I checked the box on the ticket that I request to challenge the ticket in court with the officer present. Court day came and the officer didn't show in court so my infraction was dismissed.
It also doesnt say you must remain stopped at a light if safe to proceed, just that you come to a full stop.
They don't care because they don't actually have to defend the ticket. Even if it's thrown out they get off on wasting your time.
Actually, if the officer thought the driver was doing 10% over 20 or ever 25 mph, and it turned out that the real speed limit was actually 30, then by his own words, the cop clocked the fellow driving under the speed limit.
Lol
What's laughable is this cop thinks the human eye can differentiate between someone driving at 20mph and 22mph, because it can't.
Much respect to this driver. Well done.
He stopped him for speeding but he doesn't even know the speed limit on the road 🤣
It's not like they're aren't enough real speeders out there. Around here you could be going 55 in a 45 right past a deputy. Rolling through stop signs and red lights on right turns all over the place. Not sure what they're sitting there looking for. I'm guessing potential drug busts. That seems to be a high priority for them around here.
No, he stopped him because he thought driver whould have a phone in hands. The moment cop realized he was wrong, he tried to make up another reason for the stop.
It is scary and dangerous to let someone who is not honest to continue to serve as a law enforcement officer. This time he may only be lying about minor traffic infraction , what if the next time it can be a more serious crime that can wrongfully put someone in jail for life or worse.
I can't believe how cops can't just admit when there wrong, it's a complex they all have.
recipe for disaster
Admittedly, this is far from a police exclusive thing. This is a human thing. People everywhere struggle with admitting they're wrong.
Part of the personality that drives a person to become a cop.
It's partially because they're trained to project authority, command respect, shut down people arguing with them and force compliance.
Being wrong means they lose the ability to do this, so they strive to appear to be right even when they're wrong.
Training needs to change so they realise that compliance is voluntary unless you're detaining someone, and making sure that they have the training to know where they are allowed to detain someone.
@@celestialowl8865 you’re correct. But when the police have a monopoly on legal violence then they need to be held to a higher standard
I commend Mr. Patriot for already having the knowledge of his rights before.
Being in Texas, he likely experienced or witnessed from other accounts the unlawful practices of Texas cops.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
I'll guess Mr. Patriot has been a sub to AtA for a long time. 👍 👨⚖
@@1981bevo what the law says; is irrelevant if it was overruled by scotus...which thos was, BEFORE I was born
This might be a big ask but if you were to put these videos into a playlist based on individual states so we can study our own states encounters would be awesome and put you on the next level
That's a great idea!
I like hearing about the different state laws. Isn’t this guy already putting huge amounts of research into each video without having to make a 50 state playlist for each video. And since the First Amendment covers all 50 states, I think that is kind of selfish.
i was thinkin this while watching too
to his defense he makes it clear with a disclaimer that his videos should not at all be construed as legal advice. making state based playlists for the purpose of him describing those state statutes to you for your use could go against that
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--forever.”
― George Orwellll, 1984
Stamping or stomping? Not taking a piss, genuinely asking
Correct. We truly live in an Orwellian world.
@@gw6667 stamping is correct
@@gw6667 1984 was written in the 1940’s so the language sometimes seems a bit antiquated.
The extra l's let you know he meant business.
I wish i was brave enough to talk to the cops like that.
I get so nervous thinking here comes an expensive ticket for some BS.
Which is a completely reasonable way to feel, the way cops can be. And the courts
Pigs have worked for 50 years to make you scared of them like that. This has to change.
Im glad Ive lived in an area where the cops legitimately dont give a shit unless youre drug trafficking or trying to murder someone
Same. I shake so bad when ever I'm near a cop.
Absolutely priceless, when a cop alleges a speeding offence without knowing the speed limit on that road!!! Hilarious! 🤣 🤣 🤣
Sad. Ego spreads like a disease.
It’s happened to me. Twice! Both times during lockdown. I think they were bored.
😂😂😂😂😂
Dude didn’t even know the speed limit like what
forcing them to leave isnt good enough anymore. im sick of seeing this kind of bs. we need change. immediate accountability!
....aaand you're doing what?
@@m4rvinmartian oh man if youre going around trying to shut everyone up that would like change, youve got some problems bud.
@@m4rvinmartian he's voting and voicing his political standpoint. What are you doing? Have you ever voted? Have you ever attended a Com Meet?
Blaming someone else for doing now thing is worse because you're starting a new conflict all together.
I agree that the system needs a minor change to create a third legal organization built around convicting criminals from the previous two organizations. But in this case I don’t think anything is required other then getting chewed out by their CO
@@whorolledthis1567 I want to know what you think "immediate accountability" means.
The sad part is law enforcement can lie, but NOT on the report.
Always remember this.
I mean yeah. That applies to a lot of things. If I had a say the punishment for lying should be proportional to the damage inflicted. In this case not much.
This is probably one of the top five things people should know when being pulled over, when being questioned, when dealing with police. Super important!
@@noodlepoodlegirl also if a cop in the states is asking if you have anything expensive on you always say “no, just 5 bucks” but otherwise if they are asking for something reasonable and you aren’t breaking any laws just show it to them. They are probably just covering all of their bases.
@@noodlepoodlegirl true lol… they once told me they had me on camera setting off a firework… the same firework that I had (out of sheer shock, in order to Snapchat it to my friends) began video-recording the ignition of when I realized that the dude who lit it was actually about to light it in the middle of an apartment complex. The firework had then started a small fire in a bush, and I called 911 and remained on scene to make sure it got put out (which it did, by a couple of residents with fire extinguishers). 911 told me to call back if it reignited, I said okay, hung up, began to leave, and then the police pulled up and detained me for 3 hours in that uncomfortable ass squad car backseat, trying to tell me they had me on video and had witnesses saying I lit it… Don’t believe their lies lmao, I eventually got out with no charges.
I like how the cop insinuates he can leave instead of getting a supervisor. He was probably hoping the guy would leave so he could get him for running or some other BS.
"You're speeding"
"How fast was I going"
"A speed that allows me to give you a ticket "
C- is still in "average" range, and is therefore too high of a grade to give officers who intentionally lied and attempted to violate an innocent citizen's 4th Amendment rights. I can understand giving higher than an F for the reasons listed (i.e. didn't escalate to violence or an arrest), but I cannot agree with a grade any higher than a D+
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
He’s judging them on a actual system based on law not feelings. You guys are way too bloodthirsty. Based on previous grades it’s probably something like this
F is for people to directly challenge and circumvent the law or use unwarranted violence.
D is for people who made a significant and costly mistake but never directly challenged the law intentionally.
C is for people who fucked up but never resulted in a loss. Nothing really happened here or was lost. So C
Yeah they were pushy with their views but weren't aggressive and in the end let him go so c- is fair
Cop: "I pulled you over for this..."
Driver: *Proves 'this' is a lie*
Cop: "Um, uhhh, er....I mean you were speeding."
99% of all cops.
Thats the problem with traffic violations. They're not criminal and there's no victim. All they serve to do is enable police, with BROAD and arbitrary scope, to intrude on motorists for pretextual stops, and serve as revenue generation for literal road piracy
Also 99% of all cops: 99% of the general public knows when they're breaking the law (even though they have a law for every single picosecond of the day).
Mr. Patriot kind of gave him the excuse because he asked, “was I speeding?” Maybe if he hadn’t said that the cop would’ve had to dig around for another “reason” himself...
@@lacsuttle Nah, watch again. It was the doughnut dumpster who first brought up speeding after Mr. Patriot proved him wrong about holding the phone while driving.
Should have just called him out as a liar "Because cop's egos can't accept being wrong."
Didn't rip the guy out of the car and arrest him after they lied therefore the cops get a C-. It just blows my mind how little accountability cops have for being terrible human beings
Lack of Police Accountability in the states is a real thing and is basically even when they break the law they are rarely convicted and jailed. But don’t automatically assume every cop is a bad person.
Being white and wellspoken helps
@@FrostReave i agree not every cop is a bad person, however refusing to hold the bad ones accountable is what makes that ACAB mentality continue
@@FrostReave Assume away. Because by the time you realize you're dealing with a dirty cop you're in handcuffs or ICU or both.
@@frankney8284 Treating every cop like a dirtbag before they do anything you are just antagonize them. If they think every person they deal with are out for them they will understandably be jumpy. Furthermore it’s good being cautious but never assume anything. Generalizing is just illogical and divisive. It’s not like thinking a cop is corrupt gives you some sort of advantage. And even a corrupt cop wouldn’t shoot you for no reason and you can’t just arrest someone with no evidence without backlash.
He’s going 10% about the speed limit and even don’t know the Speed limit! - absolute ridicolous!! Absolute souvereign guy!!
Regards from Germany ✌🏻
You will never dispel their suspicions for pulling you over and demanding ID when driving a vehicle as they can literally invent any number of additional violations they are "investigating": driving erratically, suspicious, "got a call", in a "high crime area", speeding, driving too slow, etc.
If they say they got a call. They need to provide a record of that call when you sue. Call their bluff.
My favourite is the one where they saw you come out of a “known drug house”. Well, if you are so smart that you know that it’s a drug house, get a warrant and stop the drug house.
@@downhomesunset XD that might just be a you thing. I'm guessing you're often going in and out of "known drug houses".
@@claiminglight You've never had a negative interaction with a cop have you? If its not clear from the video the entire point is that the cops will make up anything to get what they want from you.
@@peeonthe3rdrail414 Of course I have. Worse than you, kid.
But I've also had good and neutral ones.
As far as your zealous attitude that *all* cops will make up *anything*... you need to drink a lot less of the kool-aid. Bad actors are out there, but this channel is a net negative force. Ya'll are a niche echo chamber of zealotry, absent any real world experience or sense.
I have been involved in automobile racing for decades. Even on a track where you know distances between landmarks it is really hard to judge speed by eye. I am pretty good at it, after decades on tracks, I know by heart. There is no way this "Police" could know what the speed was of this guy's car. I am sort of an expert, and I doubt I could be accurate enough to stop somebody. The only way this would work is if the guy was driving extremely fast or extremely slow.
I'd imagine knowing the track distance and time it takes for a car to get to point A and then B and count the amount of time it takes helps too
@@markrayes2973 Yes I think almost every track has markers, so you can compare times in different segments of road courses. On the ovals you have the straights and the corners that are know quantities. You can learn to count in your head and tell if a car is going faster or slower. To do it on regular city streets at that slow of a speed with no known markers seems impossible. I doubt a judge would let it stand in a court.
In Tennessee I was stopped by a state trooper. He thought I wasn't wearing my seat belt. When he walked up and saw it on he asked if I had it on the whole time (he knew I did because my arm was out the window) I said absolutely he said your free to go. We talked for a couple of minutes I told him I thought he pulled me over because my passenger wasn't wearing their seat belt. He said he didn't see that and that wasn't why he pulled me over so he couldn't even ticket the passenger. By this time the passenger had the seat belt on. After talking for the few minutes I left.
You self snitched, don’t do that cause they totally can ticket for it of they wanted too. I’ve seen a few too many petty cop videos.
@@YourKingJDG if your in my car without a seatbelt I think you need a ticket. My husband never wears it and it gets under my skin. My car now dings till he puts it on I love it.
That’s a pleasant encounter. Depending on how it’s handled I think this is actually fine. A officer of the law politely reminding you he’s seen way too many car accidents and that you are not immune to them and to please buckle their seatbelts and be safe.
@@staceybowers3945 don’t wanna be in your car stacey
I know a guy who was pulled over. The cop asked if he was wearing his seat belt before being pulled over. He admitted he wasn't. The cop said good thing you didn't lie because your seatbelt is out the door scrapping on the road creating sparks. That's why I pulled you over. Haha.
what does a guy do when the supervisor is as corrupt as the corrupt cop who stopped you.
You keep aiming higher up. You’ll find someone who isn’t corrupt eventually.
Not all law enforcement is corrupt. I religiously watch these videos to further ensure I’m doing my job properly. I enjoy watching these to further enhance my knowledge
@Gabe Trevino " not all law enforcement is corrupt " . what I hear is most of them are ...just not all of them
@@genethiel1481 you could easily argue there is corruption in any profession
Take it to court lol
It's out of control. If their first lie fails, they are prepared with more.
Thank you for being such a strong educator for the reality of our rights in this country. I learn so much from these videos.
Texas Sec. 521.025. LICENSE TO BE CARRIED AND EXHIBITED ON DEMAND; CRIMINAL PENALTY. (a) A person required to hold a license under Section 521.021 shall:
(1) have in the person's possession while operating a motor vehicle the class of driver's license appropriate for the type of vehicle operated; and
(2) display the license on the demand of a magistrate, court officer, or peace officer.
This isn’t a right. Just because it’s not required of you doesn’t mean it’s a right. A right is the select few predetermined protections that are irrevocable by any court of law or congress.
This is what's called pushing the goalpost.
"You were going 10% over the limit"
"What's the speed limit officer?"
"I don't know"
"So I'm going 10% over unknown?"
He needs to file a complaint because that officer was 100% lying based on that alone. How could he say anyone was doing 10% over a number THAT HE DOESNT KNOW?
10% over 20 mph?
10% over 25 mph?
Absolutley crazy.
I can tell his kids will grow up right, especially witnessing their dad stick up for himself in situations like this. Of course they may not remember but still!
Even if the boy doesn't consciously remember doesn't mean it won't be stored somewhere in his subconscious. Either way the boy does have an advantage having a dad who knows his rights
They will watch the video
if the cops lie,it should be an automatic F
He’s judging them on a actual system based on law not feelings. Ya’ll are too bloodthirsty. Based on previous grades it’s probably something like this
F is for people who directly challenge and circumvent the law or use unwarranted violence intentionally.
D is for people who made a significant and costly mistake but never directly challenged the law intentionally.
C is for people who fucked up but never resulted in a loss. Nothing really happened here or was lost. So C
@@FrostReave Why not an F? Because the cop didn’t kill him or beat him? You know it’s wrong when you have to grade someone for assault. These cops deserved an F because they’re ignorant and that can cost a life