Did Moses Really Split the Red Sea? w/ Dr. John Bergsma
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Dr. Bergsma talks about the incidental proofs for the Israelites crossing the Red Sea
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Moses didn't split the red sea, God did. All Moses did was hold up his hands and believe God was going to do it.
Moses was a man like all of us, God split the sea. Moses was obedient to God and, therefore, useful to The Lord.
Yes but everyone know what he means he does not have to explain who was doing the actual splitting of the sea
Thank you for the unnecessary distinction
no, it didnt happen.
@@melonusk6120it happened
God split the Red Sea and Patriarch Moses was His instrument. This is a defining moment when time is split in two for the Hebrews, pre-exodus and post-exodus from slavery into frreedom, just as Christ split time in two BC and AD giving all humanity access to freedom from the slavery of sin into salvation.
Nice perspective, is that from any Church Fathers?
No but I am part of the Church and I am a father.😂😂😂@@colmwhateveryoulike3240
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
It was actually the Green sea but the guy who named it was color blind .
If a (color)blind man leads a (color)blind man, both will fall into a pit (but not know its color.)
There were two stone pillars erected on either side of the sea with supposed inscriptions on them about the crossing. One of them was badly damaged and worn naturally, but the other was still in good shape and believed to be placed by King Solomon. It is now residing in a Saudi Arabian museum after they took it down a few years ago. They replaced it with a concrete block!
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Question: I was aware of those two pillars, just as you described and I that the Saudi’s had taken it, but I wasn’t aware that it was (on display?) in a Saudi Arabian museum. Has anyone (from the West) actually seen it and had an opportunity to photograph it? The last I heard, no one knew of where it is being kept.
This is like saying the existence of the pyramids are evidence of Ra, people tend to make religious iconography, that does not make it evidence
@@ecuador9911nobody will ever see it most likely. Saudi arabia knows the Torah and the bible completely debunk islam as the only way islam could be true is if the bible and the Torah have been corrupted, so they are destroying any artifacts of judaism they come across along with ALL pre islamic writings or pagan artifacts they come across, there's a reason they are paving over so many important saudi arabian archeological sites for casinos.
The crossing point was in Nuweiba and Wasit, in modern day Gulf of Aqaba.
There's an underwater land bridge under a few hundred feet of water (today) with steep drops on both sides.
If the water level was lower (4000+ years ago) a strong jet of wind could push the water out and expose the muddy rocky land bridge to allow people to cross, if the wind was at their backs it would have also helped push people across faster.
Wind dies and water floods back, washing anyone chasing them off the steep sides and drowning.
This! awesome breakdown my friend. I hope many see this.
There was a story about this in a science magazine years ago along with radar photos of the underwater bridge. I think it was Scientific American magazine.
And it leads into the current state of Saudi Arabia which was aka Midian in the Bible and all the Midian markers talked about in the Bible are still there...the
Definitely wasn't there. Doesn't follow the path outlined at all and wouldn't be called a reed sea.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
They've found chariot wheels, soldiers armor, and bones at the bottom of the red sea but no boats.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Incorrect
Dr. David Falk is the best Christian Egyptologist you can talk to. He was a student of Dr. Kenneth Kitchen.
It would be nice if he could have Dr. Falk on, but Dr. Falk might be too busy to agree (or might just not want to do it in person.)
I agree, that would be great
@@Konxovar0 Would there be anything wrong with not doing it in person?
@@marinanguish9928 No, definitely not, I was just not sure if Pints with Aquinas did many virtual interviews. I forgot about Gunter Bechly, the biologist, who was just interviewed virtually recently, so I don't think there would be any problem then.
They have found chariot axles, wheels including gold covered wheels without growth and horse bones at the bottom of the Red Sea.
Ah yes, because the only reason a wheel or bones could show up on the bottom of a sea is because of magic. I guess all the tires in the Ocean are proof that Moses also split the Atlantic so we could drive through it
That’s not really fair. I don’t buy Ron Wyatt either but you can’t say that chariot wheels in the middle of an ocean or sea is just chance. Who is going to go and throw a chariot in the ocean. But I understand your point but it’s not like today where we have bridges and people throw stuff over. But I get your drift
@@xXEGPXx Since it makes a strong argument to compare the 20th century AD with the 15th century BC.
"Wouldn't we expect to find chariots, etc.?"
Probably not tbh. For one, the waters in question were and still are infested by crocodiles, who would've eaten the soliders and the horses. As for Egyptian chariots, they would have been made of ephemeral materials--primarily leather and wood--and thus easily decay, especially the leather, after making contact with water, be it salt water or fresh water, and be promptly eaten by the snails also in those bodies of water. We really can't assume that sealife over the course of 3000 years just decides not to do their natural thing. Additionally, since the Sinai in the Bronze Age would've been savanna, rather than desert, even finding skeletal remains of animals in those parts wouldn't be that surprising regardless.
Nevertheless, I second Dr. Bergsma's recommendation of Dr. Hoffmeier's books to anyone who wants to learn more. Additionally, Dr. Kenneth Kitchen.
There is all that stuff, check out Ron Wyatts work. He found the real crossing.
@@curtisjordan9210 Ron Wyatt was not an archeologist, he defrauded his investors, and he preached a false gospel akin to that of the Judaizers and argued he was a prophet. Every single one of his frauds were debunked and all Christians should reject his nonsense.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
I'd love to hear his take on the Sinai evidence as there seems to be a lot of circumstantial evidence. Moses fled to Midian which is in Sinai desert modern day Saudi Arabia. God met Moses at Mt Horeb which was near Meridian which is in the Sinai Peninsula and we seem to have alot of evidence showing very similar patterns from the Bible, split rock, alters, calf drawings, burnt up mountain, oasis etc. I know only the basics here but would love to hear more. Seems facsinating.
Jebel Al Lawz is the real Mount Sinai.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
I love your videos Matt, God be with you.
You're welcome Jim
It's late and my brain doesn't work properly
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
With man this is impossible but with God all things are possible. The Waymaker
"The Exodus Revealed: Search for the Red Sea Crossing" (dvd) is an excellent recording of a research expedition conducted by a medical doctor and his associates. It's the most convincing verification of the Exodus Narrative in Scripture in my research experience. Bill Crofut
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp40 years of wandering would result in as many as 14,600 campsites. Why do you think they would list all of them in the text and not just the major ones? The text states that they were near the philistines but God took them the long way around and intentionally through the sea to destroy pharaoh and his army so the world would know He was God. Please refer to a map of the Middle East and consider this. Objectively, I think Ron Wyatt presented a theory that is best supported by the text and the archaeology.
"If anyone says that the condition of the faithful and those who have not yet attained to the only true faith is alike, so that Catholics may have a just cause for calling in doubt, by suspending their assent, the faith which they have already received from the teaching of the Church, until they have completed a scientific demonstration of the credibility and truth of their faith: let him be anathema." First Vatican Council, Session 3: 24 April 1870, Dogmatic constitution on the Catholic faith, Canons, On Faith, 6.
maybe I'm just dumb, but what did I just read? Like what are you saying here??? All I know is the catholic church is a cult. Sorry Catholics
I have also read that Yam Souf can be End Sea as well as Sea of Reeds. The area of the lakes is very hard to evaluate since it is now part of the Suez canal. It may have been wet or entirely dry depressions at the time of the Exodus. Even the time is in question since Egyptian chronology may not be what we have been led to believe. The more important issue is that Baal-Siphon should be a mountain near water, since that god was a god of the sea worshiped from a high place. The presence of terrain that would block the Israelites is required since that was Pharaoh's motivation for going after them.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp I said nothing about the Gulf of Aqaba which would clearly be too far away to be in line with scripture and tradition. Jewish tradition says they crossed on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. I personally believe they crossed somewhere at the northern end of the Gulf of Suez.
@@cornelkittell9926 See my comments in the main comment section.
@@cornelkittell9926the scripture states that the Israelites crossed into what we now call Saudi Arabia. The apostle Paul said he went there. The Exodus records that the Israelites were near the Philistines when God took them the long way around. The text does not describe how long they traveled. The sites Ron Wyatt found are the best supported biblically and archaeologically that I’ve seen.
@@bighepj There are several problems with that. The description of stops and land marks prior to the crossing 3 stops vs. many. The reference to Migdol, a fort or tower. Lastly, the depth of the Gulf of Aqaba is a minimum of 300 meters at the Straits of Tiran. Even deeper at Nuweiba. The reference to the Philistines just means they did not take the short, direct route along the Mediterranean Sea. Also the Jewish tradition is that they crossed on the 7th day of Unleavened Bread. So the Song of Moses is part of the required celebration. Shabbat Shalom PS The land of Midian is not synonymous with Saudi Arabia. The Midianites frequently came into what we call Sinai.
Recent discoveries may indicate the passage was in the Red sea close to Neuweiba, Egypt. Also Horeb/ Mt Sinai is in Arabia according to apostel Paul. Still needs to be confirmed by further research.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp40 years of wandering would result in as many as 14,600 campsites. Why do you think they would list all of them in the text and not just the major ones? The text states that they were near the philistines but God took them the long way around and intentionally through the sea to destroy pharaoh and his army so the world would know He was God. Please refer to a map of the Middle East and consider this. Objectively, I think Ron Wyatt presented a theory that is best supported by the text and the archaeology.
See "The Exodus Decoded." Produced by James Cameron, narrated by Simcha Jacobovici. Incredible. Extraordinary. Completely explains how the miracle of devine Providence unfolded and makes the remarkable event of the Exodus understandable and more believable then ever. I believe Simcha figured something out that no one in history understood or knew until our time.
surely james cameron knows the truth about that.
Incorrect. "Yam Suph" is not just found in Exodus. Solomon had ships in Yam Suf, which is the Red Sea. 1 Kings 9:26 King Solomon also built a fleet of ships at Ezion Geber, which is near Elath on the shore of the Red Sea (Yam Suph), in the land of Edom.
@@nickma71 Wrong. There was a yam suf, that was an estuary at the north end of the Gulf of Aqaba. This is what is being referred to in 1 Kings 9:26 as well as Num. 33:10. You can find the remains of this marsh in old 19th century maps.
@@501Mobius Nope, made up. Yam suf had a fleet of ships. Horeb/Sinai is in Saudi Arabia. The Bible is clear.
@@nickma71 The fleet had to travel through a part of the estuary to reach the sea from Ezion Geber. Ruins at Tell el-Kheleifeh are a third of a kilometer inland from the sea. Did the sailors drag their boats across the sand to the dock?
No, no, no. It was the Red Sea. A scuba team went to the site back when the Sinai Peninsula was Israeli territory, and there are tons of artifacts down there.
I think it's interesting that the default position in the current culture is " well it wasn't ACTUALLY a miracle right? Must be some other explanation". I've heard more than one person talk about the feeding of the 5,000 is now understood to mean that people just shared what they had in a really amazing way. Giving in to this is just one more reason fewer and fewer Catholics believe in the Real Presence
If the feeding of the 5000 didnt happen, then that would be a stumbling block for me. I think that if the miracles in the new testament are just metaphors and symbolism then it casts doubt on the resurrection. And if the resurrection didn't happen then there is no reason to be a christian.
@@off-meta-michael then it's a good thing the resurrection did happen
@@off-meta-michael Jesus spoke much in John about His works testifying about the Father; for any to claim He did not actually do them is to blaspheme Christ's testimony. I think, Catholic or not, the First Vatican Council had this one perfectly right: "If anyone says that all miracles are impossible, and that therefore all reports of them, even those contained in sacred scripture, are to be set aside as fables or myths; or that miracles can never be known with certainty, nor can the divine origin of the Christian religion be proved from them: let him be anathema." Why would He say He did works, and why would the New Testament report such works, if He did not actually intend for people to believe He did them?
@@off-meta-michael exactly! All things were made through Him which gives Christ complete authority over all of creation! He says " be healed" and they are healed. He says "this is My body" and it is!!
@@Konxovar0 yea i agree. Plus, the story of the 5000 makes no sense if it wasnt a miracle. There wasnt enough food in the beginning and suddenly there's tons and even leftovers. The entire context is that this was a miracle. It clearly is trying to show that Christ can divide and create without end, a prefigurement of how the eucharist can be distributed forever.
Mount Horeb is in Midian which is modern day Saudi Arabia. This is where they were fleeing, the bottom of the Sea of Aquaba has coral at the bottom that are uncanny found by Ron Wyatt in the 70s.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp It is ok to disagree here, but Gal 4:25. Paul stats Horeb is in Saudi Arabia, and Historical Midian is there as well, where Moses was with tending his father-in-laws sheep. Requested to Pharaoh is a 3-day journey into the "wilderness" to sacrifice to God, my question is it 3 days to the wilderness or 3 days once in the wilderness? The only other reference to 3-days comes after the red sea crossing in Exodus 15:22 at the wilderness of Shur. If you align this with the view of the "wilderness" in other areas of the bible as a time of testing and reliance upon God it seems to fit nicely. I think this makes the most sense of the "3-days" and there is a clear test after the 3 days that occurs with the people where they are forced to rely upon God. The assumption of Sea of Aquaba assumes the 3 days is in reference to entering the "wilderness" and that the people where traveling to Saudi Arabia. The repetition would suggest some alignment of the 2 events.
Red Sea and sea of reeds also would've looked differently as well So that can also make it harder to find Egyptian chariots
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp40 years of wandering would result in as many as 14,600 campsites. Why do you think they would list all of them in the text and not just the major ones? The text states that they were near the philistines but God took them the long way around and intentionally through the sea to destroy pharaoh and his army so the world would know He was God. Please refer to a map of the Middle East and consider this. Objectively, I think Ron Wyatt presented a theory that is best supported by the text and the archaeology.
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There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
Actually, many including me would argue that point.
IF you read the "Song of Moses" in Exodus, and study the geography of that day, it is virtually impossible for the "Reed Sea" to fuflill the events as documented.
So, I'd ignore the "Reed Sea" argument for many reasons and linguistically it is not clear either, to argue for the "Reed Sea".
The WATER was DEEP.
The WATER was STACKED UP on both SIDES.
It was quite the show!
It was not a marsh...LOL.
It has to be only around 6 feet deep, maybe less, to be enough to drown people, and not even that deep to have walls on either side. Water displacement is a real phenomenon where only a little bit of water needs to be displaced temporarily to cause a large height change. And if you suddenly stop displacing it the current will VERY violently return to its original form. Most tsunamis are only a few feet to maybe ten feet deep and they drown entire cities.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Common misunderstanding. The term in English "Red Sea" (יַם-סוּף, or _yam suph_ when transliterated from the Hebrew) is better translated as the "Rude Sea" (יַם-סוּף-בדיחה or _yam schmuken_ in transliteration). The drowning of pharaoh's army was considered a _déclassé_ move for an otherwise-respected body-of-water; hence the name. Happy to clear that up.
Excavating the Sea of Reeds could be like trying to deal with the ValuJet crash many years ago in the Everglades. Finding stuff under liquid is not easy.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
There is an ancient altar with calf hieroglyphs at the foot of a black, charred cap mountain in Midian called Jabal al Lawz. Fascinating evidence there.
I am glad I started watching these with the playback set to 2x
Chariots and bones of humans have already been found in the Red Sea where the parting was marked by pillars.
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There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
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I understand why people think it’s very difficult to buy a lot of the stuff in the old testament.
I heard this 30 years ago in college and I didn't buy it back then, either.
I also heard the “Reed” Sea theory presented by a Franciscan priest in college.
Did they not already find evidence of chariot wheels and the like somewhere in the Red Sea? I know I saw something about this years ago; was that made up or just inconclusive?
It's definitely there. Most compelling for me was the gold-plated four-spoked chariot wheel that corral couldn't stick to at all. It was glinting in the sun. The four-spoked wheels are from the appropriate period as well.
Ron Wyatt did. He has a video about it on his website and FB page.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
@Michael-pn5lp your comment doesn't seem to fit in this reply string. To comment further though, it was supposed to be a three day travel to the place of sacrifice, not to the crossing, which was at Nuweiba Beach.
That was a hoax.
In the Gulf of Amman there are chariots in the middle of the Gulf. Hard to do dives, cause the Saudi government prohibits it.
they're Roman chariots
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp sorry i thought it was the gulf of amman, where Solomon build a memorial to the crossing on the sinai side of the gulf. Also, wonder why people find it so hard to just accept Gods word at face value.
@@joejackson6205 See my comments in the main comment section.
If God designed and made the entire universe moving a little water around for an a few hours would be Child's play..... Why would anybody need to ask "is it possible" ?????
This makes no sense....
Because it goes against our current understanding of how bodies of water work and there would be some evidence of a major phenomenon like this. The discussion at 1:45 illustrates not only how this hypothesis could be tested but the general defeatist attitude of believers in trying to work out if they might be wrong about something.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@SuperKripke
According to the narrative found in the Bible the water was as a wall on their left and on their right.... Ever see water do this?...... Is there any natural explanation for this? .... No because it was a miracle because God has the ability to do whatever he wants.... Quit trying to find a natural explanation for that which is not natural...
@@Michael-pn5lp
I am not sure what you are talking about could you please elaborate?
@@GSpotter63Or maybe it didn't happen and the author made it up.
Ron Wyatt found the real crossing, and there is evidence of chariots.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
He has overwhelmingly been discredited
Josh Gaites from expedition unknown does a great video detailing this
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
In 1st Kings, the Red Sea (yam soof) is adjacent to Edom.
_"And king Solomon made a navy of ships in Eziongeber, which is beside Eloth, on the shore of the Red sea (yam soof,) in the land of Edom." -- 1Kin __9:26__ KJV_
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There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
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Ron Wyatt discoveries proves it was the Red Sea.
The Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean Sea are considered part of the Atlantic Ocean Basin during Hurricane Season.
So I would consider the Sea of Reeds part of the Red Sea Basin....
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
Could thousands of soldiers have drowned in a sea shallow enough for reeds?
'The soldiers were slightly inconvenienced in the red sea of reeds...their sandals were swept away and moistened' lol
Sea of Reeds is a reference to Egyptian mythology. Egyptians believed that after death they had to traverse the Sea of Reeds to reach the land of the gods, and only with the help of the gods could they cross. This is a precursor to the Greek mythology of the River Styx. Those who could not make it across the sea were forever drowned in the reeds.
The Exodus narrative is a refutation of Egyptian mythology. God passed judgement on the gods of Egypt. God successfully delivered his people from death by crossing the Sea of Reeds, while the Egyptian gods failed the armies of Egypt and they were drowned.
@@sentjojofascinating
The reeds grow along the shoreline and in the shallows, not all throughout the lake. The actual lake was probably around 40 feet deep at it's deepest point with the actual crossing point being 7-10 feet underwater.
@@sentjojothe gods of Egypt are in the 10 plagues. So they thought the Nile was a mirror of the milky way. The giza pyramids line up withe the belt of Orion. They saw that constellation as Osiris.
Yam suph can also be the sea that ends, which is what the Red Sea does.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
There has been discoveries quite in depth of chariot wheels etc very varified in the location they apparently crossed , there a number docos on it .some sketchy ones as well .
Incorrect. "Yam Suph" is not just found in Exodus. Solomon had ships in Yam Suf, which is the Red Sea. 1 Kings 9:26 King Solomon also built a fleet of ships at Ezion Geber, which is near Elath on the shore of the Red Sea (Yam Suph), in the land of Edom.
You think they will take this down knowing he is wrong?
I had a thought the other day about this. We've all grown up with the story of the splitting of the Red (Reed) sea. It's part of our culture. But the idea itself... is unique. Strange. Many things in Christianity can be found in other cultures/religions. A great flood. An afterlife. Rising from the dead. Monotheism. I don't think the concept of the fluid in a body of water splitting has ever occurred anywhere else ever. It's not something a human would think of naturally. Like going to the moon or flying with wings. To look out at a great body of water and think "What if the water split and I could walk across?" What did ancient man know about massive bodies of water? They probably all assumed it was a bottomless pit under the water as you went out not just lower levels of ground like we all know now. To me that's the strongest reason it might have happened. It's too strange to just make up.
Then by that same rationale, all the other parts of the Bible commonly found in other religions or myths are probably false, and never happened.
@@KZSoze No. Doesn't mean that at all. I just think that one situation is unique in world storytelling. One could disagree of course. Matters not to me.
@@thanksfernuthin You’re believing something ridiculous, based on lack of imagination, ignorance, and/or not being aware of a similar story elsewhere. And further, you’re only applying your standard of reasoning, in a manner which supports your belief. You won’t use the same reasoning process when it would clearly take away from other stories.
@@KZSoze I don't know what you're trying to achieve or why this is so important to you. The fact that it is so important to you is really sad. I'm not religious. I just commented on something I thought might be interesting. When someone is so grotesquely motivated to attack people that are religious it obviously comes from a dark, mentally unhealthy place. Religious people aren't the reason your life sucks my friend. Look in a mirror.
@@thanksfernuthin we’re having a simple discussion on a public video. Stop acting like you’re being viciously attacked or victimized. 1. Nothing supernatural has ever in the history of mankind been demonstrably verified to exist. 2. Somehow you’ve determined this supernatural claim to be likely, simply because you’ve never heard it elsewhere, and you find it beyond your imagination. Have you researched it? 3. You don’t know what people during this age knew about bodies of water, but you blindly assume they had no concept, and simply add it to your probably happened column. Have you researched what they knew or didn’t? 4. I presented you with the very reasonable proposition, that your logic, if consistently applied, would suggest that claims shared among many religions would therefore be more unlikely to be true. But you won’t hear of it.
If you don’t want to discuss it, then don’t. If you do, then do. But if so, let’s have a real discussion. There’s no need for you to pretend you know me, or assume motivations, or do anything other than talk about the actual points. Why you believe something, not just what you believe, is very important.
I just commented on Matt calling Noah's ark BS does he believe anything in the bible? Or just what he interprets to be true. God is all powerful and nothing is impossible for our Lord.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
Thanks for splitting the long video into 5-6 minutes too 😅
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
I'd be interested in what the Septuagint says about the Red Sea translation since it's our oldest biblical document and the Masoretic text is younger than that.
I choose to believe it was the Red Sea because it'd be easier for chariots to disappear, if it was a lake the Egyptians could've just rode their chariots around and unless I'm wrong I remember hearing something about a pillar put in place by Solomon to commemorate the Israelites crossing.
And I just can't imagine the Egyptians drowning in a few feet of water.
Samaritan Pentateuch is the oldest Old Testament by far.
A few things:
First, no one said it was a couple of feet of water.
Second, why do you think it was feasible for the chariots to go around? Or that they even want to do so?
Third, chariots are made of wood, they would have disappeared long time ago in fresh water just as they would in salt water.
Look up Ron Wyatt discoveries. It was the Red Sea
@@kingbird1737 Ron Wyatt is a fraud and an embarrassment, please stop.
Numquid Deo est quicquam difficile?
(Is there anything hard to God?)
I wouldn't be surprised if there were no sandals found, if scripture was being literal when it said that not even the latch of their shoes failed
fascinating.
So, you're saying the entire Egyptian army drowned in 2 feet of water? Try again.
The reality is they stewed up the wrong Mushrooms ; )
They did find remains of chariots in the Golf off Aqaba where Moses crossed to the real Mt. sinai in Soudi Arabia.
It is true that the translation "Red Sea" is incorrect. In Hebrew its "ים־סוף" (Yam Suf). "Yam" is the standard Semitic word for "sea", but "Suf" gets a bit more complicated. "Suf" is actually an Egyptian loanword, it comes from the Egyptian "ṯwf". The "t" transliterates as "s" to Hebrew. "ṯwf" refers to "reeds". In Exodus 2:3 and 2:5 we see the very same word used clearly referring to reeds (reed basket for baby Moses and how he was found on the river among reeds). So really the correct translation should be "the Sea of Reeds" or "Reed Sea". Now the Sea of Reeds is described to be in the vicinity of places like Sukkoth, Pithom, Pi-Hahiroth, Baal-Zephon, and Migdol. We can determine quite a few of these to be in the northwest of the Sinai peninsula. Not only that, but the Sea of Reeds is also mentioned in Egyptian records like Papyrus Anastasi III 2:11-3:4 and the Onomasticon of Amenope, which also locate it in the northwest of Sinai. The Sea of Reeds was therefore one of the lakes above the gulf of Suez. Another interesting thing is that according to Exodus 14:21, God sent a wind from the east that blew all night and seperated the waters. It does NOT say that God supernaturally seperated the waters, it specifically says that the wind did it over the night. There is a natural phenomena that effects these lakes sometimes called a "wind set down" which can part them. This is what the parting of the sea was.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
Is it possible that such an extreme tsunami (maybe from a meteor or earthquake) flooded all the major northern continents which hit the middle east and America but didn't make it all the way round the earth? Which would explain obscure animals like Kangaroos existing in Australia and remaining untouched by the flood.
I watched a documentary looong time ago that sought to link it to a volcanic eruption somewhere in the mediterrenean.
The bible is explicit that it was global. Kangaroos are often brought up but when you find out they can swim at 40MPH (I'm not exaggerating), and that Australia isn't as isolated as people imagine (a series of islands run all the way from continental Asia to Papua New Guinea, where there are kangaroos), it becomes less of an issue.
Those lakes of reads flooded and dried out during the year. Most likely Moses understood this and picked the right time to cross leaving the Egyptian army stranded on the other side.
Nah, wrong place. Mountain of Fire documentary, spot on the red sea, VERY interesting shaped corals that look like chariot wheels and axles. The misconception is that Israel wandered in the Sinai peninsula when they likely wandered in what is modern Saudi Arabia.
How long the Israelites took to the sea crossing will establish where the crossing was - what body of water it was. I believe that the text clearly indicates that.
Comparing traveling men in the prime of their lives and/or on camels, to a huge mixed multitude of men, women, children and elderly with flocks and herds of livestock, doesn't seem sensible to me.
Pharaoh and his chariots caught up with them at the Red Sea crossing point in LESS than one day - probably in only a few hours from when the spies reported they were entangled in the land on the wrong side of the Red Sea ! This also establishes a certain travel limit to the crossing point !
So what would take Laurence of Arabia on camels four days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing point, only took Pharaoh and his chariots a few hours ? That is the clincher ! It could only have been the top of the Gulf of Suez !
Thinking logically:
Three days travel to the Red Sea crossing 15th,16th,17th Abib.
18th Abib weekly Sabbath taken out of the Egyptian pit through the Red Sea and celebrating on the opposite shore.
19th, 20th, 21st and arriving during 22nd Abib at the bitter waters of Marah.
Note the 3 day - 4th day pattern !
The three day distance they travelled before the crossing, should be three quarters of the four day distance they travelled after the crossing to get to Marah.
This should help eliminate incorrect proposed Red Sea crossing points.
The north end of the Gulf of Suez is still the most likely crossing point - possibly in the area that is now dried up, since the Gulf of Suez is proven to have extended much further north in antiquity.
i.e. travelling 9 days distance in three days to get to the crossing, and then travelling 4 days distance in 4 days to Marah after the crossing, doesn't make sense. The same applies to other proposed crossing sites !
On the first day of the 15th they left soon after midnight and travelled to Succoth, giving a maximum of 18 hours travel. They must have rested overnight after 18 hours travel.
The second afternoon they "encamped" in Etham.
After turning away from leaving Egypt, the third afternoon they got to Pihahiroth where the crossing took place.
The Straits of Tiran are about 500 kilometers from Rameses - it just can't be done !
It's about 400km to the top of the Gulf of Aqaba, which is just as unlikely a three day journey for a multitude of men, women and children with herds of livestock. So the whole Gulf of Aqaba is ruled out, leaving only the top of the Gulf of Suez as the likely site - probably the dry bed of the sea that is proven to have extended further north in antiquity.
The Bible shows that the Israelites got to the Red Sea crossing point in three days walking, and Pharaoh and his chariots got there in less than one day. This is IMPOSSIBLE for any Gulf of Aqaba crossing, but quite plausible for a crossing at the top of the Gulf of Suez.
The Bible clearly states in Exodus that the Israelites started trekking soon after midnight on the 15th Abib, and got to the crossing point on the afternoon of the 17th Abib.
Pharaohs spies told him they were entangled in the land between the mountains and the sea sometime on the 17th Abib, and they reached them in their chariots by sunset on that same 17th Abib. That's all impossible for anywhere on the Gulf of Aqaba - it can only have been a Gulf of Suez crossing.
Proving the Exodus Gulf of Suez Crossing:
“And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand (“from Rameses”) in the sight of all the Egyptians.” (Numbers 33:3)
For THREE DAYS they travelled into the wilderness, well within reach of
Pharaoh’s army:
The 15th Abib therefore was not then and is not now a weekly Sabbath day.
1st day
2nd day
3rd day
The 15th Abib they all travelled and camped at Succoth (see Exodus 12:37).
The 16th Abib they travelled again until afternoon and camped at Etham (see Exodus 13:20). The 17th Abib Yahweh instructed them to turn away from exiting Egypt eastwards above the top end of the Red Sea (Gulf of Suez), and to travel further down the west side within Egypt proper and camp at Pihahiroth (see Exodus 14:2). Only now Pharaoh thought that they were going to actually try and escape Egypt, but had somehow made a wrong turn (see Exodus 14:3-9).
Leaving Egypt was never on Pharaoh’s agenda !
Enclosed here between the desert mountains and the sea, Pharaoh’s spies told him the Israelites were trapped and he personally lead his army in to guarantee their return to bondage.
Starting the 4th day 18th Abib NIGHT Yahweh parted the Red Sea and the
Israelites passed through safely:
“And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:” (Exodus 14:19).
This “angel of God” was Christ Himself:
“Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ” (1 Corinthians 10:1-4).
He is our Shepherd - the Stone of Israel - see Genesis 49:24 !
“And Moses STRECHED FORTH HIS HAND OVER THE SEA, and the sea
returned to his strength when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled against it; and Yahweh overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them.
But the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.
THUS Yahweh saved Israel THAT DAY out of the hand of the Egyptians;
and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore.
And Israel saw that great work which Yahweh did upon the Egyptians: and the people feared Yahweh, and believed Yahweh, and his servant Moses” (Exodus 14:27-31).
“Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto Yahweh…
And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to Yahweh, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.” (Exodus 15:1-21).
“And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer . . .
And smote all the firstborn in Egypt; the chief of their strength in the tabernacles of Ham: But made his own people to go forth like sheep, and guided them in the wilderness like a flock. And he led them on safely, so that they feared not: but the sea overwhelmed their enemies.” (Psalms 78:35,51-53)
This 18th was a great “day of gladness”, salvation, celebration and thanksgiving !
This 18th according to the Dead Sea Scrolls solar calendar, was the weekly Sabbath day ! This 18th Sabbath day, Christ our Shepherd/Stone/Rock herded the whole flock of Israel out of the Egyptian pit ! (N.B. see Matthew 12:8-13).
This 18th was the weekly Sabbath day on Yahweh's Heavenly Calendar, and so they would not have travelled any further that day, because they were already out of the Egyptian pit and it was fitting to celebrate and praise Yahweh, as they did for the rest of that day on the opposite shore of the Red Sea !
After three days journey across Egypt to the Red Sea - this 4th day 18th Abib Sabbath day salvation of Israel is also that 18th Abib Sabbath Day Resurrection of Christ - Lord of the Sabbath Day - after three full nights and three full days in the dark tomb:
“He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for Yahweh hath spoken it.” (Isaiah 25:8)
So Moses and Yahweh didn’t lie - they did travel THREE DAYS into the Egyptian wilderness
to sacrifice, and by the end of the third days travel they encamped at the Red Sea:
That 18th NIGHT starting the 4th day, Pharaoh, his chariots, horses and army were all sacrificed in the Red Sea. Death for Israel was literally swallowed up.
Pharaoh had no idea that he himself and his oppressive army were to be Yahweh’s sacrifice (sacrificial Red Sea slaughter/feast in divine judgment) The Red Sea Gulf of Suez, "tongue of the Egyptian sea", as the Bible calls it, literally swallowed them up and the fowls of the air and monsters of the deep had a great feast !
Now there was no Pharaoh to return to and Israel was free to go !
Yahweh instructed Moses to turn away from their course and to travel towards Pihahiroth - where they were soon cornered between the mountains and the sea that Yahweh parted.
Unfortunately every different theorist places Pihahiroth where it suits his crossing point, without any proof to back it up.
"...They are entangled in the land, the wilderness hath shut them in." (Exodus 14:3)
How did the "wilderness" entangle and shut them in against a large body of water that was parted for their escape out of Egypt ? What location fits that situation at the end of the third day ?
Explain how thousands of Egyptians and horses drowned in a shallow lake. God said it, I believe what God says I stand with.
The confidence with which this scholar (and many others) state that the Hebrew words in the text should be translated “Sea of Reeds” raises a necessary question: Why didn’t the Septuagint translators know this, and how is it that we know it now? I’m not contesting what he says. Just curious.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp I'm not advocating for any particular alternative theory. From a geographic point of view, I'm very comfortable with the idea that God parted the/a Sea of Reeds. I'm only asking a linguistic question.
We are now confident that the Hebrew says, "sea of reeds." But when the Septuagint was written they were equally confident that the Hebrew says, "Red Sea." How did we come to know that the Septuagint translators were wrong?
The Septuagint is based on an older hebrew text than the redacted version that currently populates most bibles. It routinely "corrects" the Hebrew version in many places most notably Isaiah 7:14. The Orthodox Church considers it the inspired version of the OT and in nearly every instance of the OT quoted in the NT it is from the Septuagint.
Whatever the correct translation, the crossing took place at the end of three days/42 hours march from Ramses, and less than one days chariot ride from Ramses. That will place the crossing somewhere at the top of the Gulf of Suez which in antiquity extended into the Suez Isthmus and Great Bitter Lake.
Comparing traveling men in the prime of their lives and/or on camels, to a huge mixed multitude of men, women, children and elderly with flocks and herds of livestock, doesn't seem sensible to me.
Pharaoh and his chariots caught up with them at the Red Sea crossing point in LESS than one day - probably in only a few hours from when the spies reported they were entangled in the land on the wrong side of the Red Sea ! This also establishes a certain travel limit to the crossing point !
So what would take Laurence of Arabia on camels four days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing point, only took Pharaoh and his chariots a few hours ? That is the clincher ! It could only have been the top of the Gulf of Suez !
Thinking logically:
Three days travel to the Red Sea crossing 15th,16th,17th Abib.
18th Abib weekly Sabbath taken out of the Egyptian pit through the Red Sea and celebrating on the opposite shore.
19th, 20th, 21st and arriving during 22nd Abib at the bitter waters of Marah.
Note the 3 day - 4th day pattern !
The three day distance they travelled before the crossing, should be three quarters of the four day distance they travelled after the crossing to get to Marah.
This should help eliminate incorrect proposed Red Sea crossing points.
The north end of the Gulf of Suez is still the most likely crossing point - possibly in the area that is now dried up, since the Gulf of Suez is proven to have extended much further north in antiquity.
i.e. travelling 9 days distance in three days to get to the crossing, and then travelling 4 days distance in 4 days to Marah after the crossing, doesn't make sense. The same applies to other proposed crossing sites !
On the first day of the 15th they left soon after midnight and travelled to Succoth, giving a maximum of 18 hours travel. They must have rested overnight after 18 hours travel.
The second afternoon they "encamped" in Etham.
After turning away from leaving Egypt, the third afternoon they got to Pihahiroth where the crossing took place.
The Straits of Tiran are about 500 kilometers from Rameses - it just can't be done !
It's about 400km to the top of the Gulf of Aqaba, which is just as unlikely a three day journey for a multitude of men, women and children with herds of livestock. So the whole Gulf of Aqaba is ruled out, leaving only the top of the Gulf of Suez as the likely site - probably the dry bed of the sea that is proven to have extended further north in antiquity.
The Bible shows that the Israelites got to the Red Sea crossing point in three days walking, and Pharaoh and his chariots got there in less than one day. This is IMPOSSIBLE for any Gulf of Aqaba crossing, but quite plausible for a crossing at the top of the Gulf of Suez.
Yom Suph means seas of reeds
So. Pharaoh's army drowned in a bunch of reeds!!! Amazing
1 Kings 9:26 - "King Solomon built a fleet of ships at Ezion-geber, which is near Eloth on the shore of the Red Sea, in the land of Edom."
The word used for "Red Sea" in this passage is יַם־ס֖וּף (yom suph), so here we have the bible referring to the place at Ezion-geber as "yom suph". Since Ezion-geber and Eloth are both on the red sea, yom suph must be referring to the Red sea
(Also, it would be very impactable to have a fleet of ships in a reedy marsh.)
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
@@Michael-pn5lp
It never says how long they were traveling before they got to "red sea" crossing spot. The 3-days worship request in to the wilderness was what Moses asked Pharaoh at first, before the advent of the plagues; by the end, he just let's them go. The 3 day worship request is irrelevant because God freed them from Egypt permanently.
Also, Just because it only records Succoth, Elath, and Pi Hahiroth, doesn't mean they were the only stops; the Bible does not say they went from succoth to Pi Hahiroth like it says they went from Rameses to Succoth.
After stopping at Succoth and Elath, God caused the Israelites to turn and go to Pi Hahiroth and Pharaoh thought they were lost and went after them, so they looked like they were wandering. The amount of time all of this took is not stated in the Bible.
@@jameslanning347 Comparing traveling men in the prime of their lives and/or on camels, to a huge mixed multitude of men, women, children and elderly with flocks and herds of livestock, doesn't seem sensible to me.
Pharaoh and his chariots caught up with them at the Red Sea crossing point in LESS than one day - probably in only a few hours from when the spies reported they were entangled in the land on the wrong side of the Red Sea ! This also establishes a certain travel limit to the crossing point !
So what would take Laurence of Arabia on camels four days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing point, only took Pharaoh and his chariots a few hours ? That is the clincher ! It could only have been the top of the Gulf of Suez !
Thinking logically:
Three days travel to the Red Sea crossing 15th,16th,17th Abib.
18th Abib weekly Sabbath taken out of the Egyptian pit through the Red Sea and celebrating on the opposite shore.
19th, 20th, 21st and arriving during 22nd Abib at the bitter waters of Marah.
Note the 3 day - 4th day pattern !
The three day distance they travelled before the crossing, should be three quarters of the four day distance they travelled after the crossing to get to Marah.
This should help eliminate incorrect proposed Red Sea crossing points.
The north end of the Gulf of Suez is still the most likely crossing point - possibly in the area that is now dried up, since the Gulf of Suez is proven to have extended much further north in antiquity.
i.e. travelling 9 days distance in three days to get to the crossing, and then travelling 4 days distance in 4 days to Marah after the crossing, doesn't make sense. The same applies to other proposed crossing sites !
On the first day of the 15th they left soon after midnight and travelled to Succoth, giving a maximum of 18 hours travel. They must have rested overnight after 18 hours travel.
The second afternoon they "encamped" in Etham.
After turning away from leaving Egypt, the third afternoon they got to Pihahiroth where the crossing took place.
The Straits of Tiran are about 500 kilometers from Rameses - it just can't be done !
It's about 400km to the top of the Gulf of Aqaba, which is just as unlikely a three day journey for a multitude of men, women and children with herds of livestock. So the whole Gulf of Aqaba is ruled out, leaving only the top of the Gulf of Suez as the likely site - probably the dry bed of the sea that is proven to have extended further north in antiquity.
The Bible shows that the Israelites got to the Red Sea crossing point in three days walking, and Pharaoh and his chariots got there in less than one day. This is IMPOSSIBLE for any Gulf of Aqaba crossing, but quite plausible for a crossing at the top of the Gulf of Suez.
@@jameslanning347 The Bible clearly states in Exodus that the Israelites started trekking soon after midnight on the 15th Abib, and got to the crossing point on the afternoon of the 17th Abib.
Pharaohs spies told him they were entangled in the land between the mountains and the sea sometime on the 17th Abib, and they reached them in their chariots by sunset on that same 17th Abib. That's all impossible for anywhere on the Gulf of Aqaba - it can only have been a Gulf of Suez crossing.
@@jameslanning347 Proving the Exodus Gulf of Suez Crossing:
“And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month; on the morrow after the passover the children of Israel went out with an high hand (“from Rameses”) in the sight of all the Egyptians.” (Numbers 33:3)
For THREE DAYS they travelled into the wilderness, well within reach of
Pharaoh’s army:
The 15th Abib therefore was not then and is not now a weekly Sabbath day.
1st day
2nd day
3rd day
The 15th Abib they all travelled and camped at Succoth (see Exodus 12:37).
The 16th Abib they travelled again until afternoon and camped at Etham (see Exodus 13:20). The 17th Abib Yahweh instructed them to turn away from exiting Egypt eastwards above the top end of the Red Sea (Gulf of Suez), and to travel further down the west side within Egypt proper and camp at Pihahiroth (see Exodus 14:2). Only now Pharaoh thought that they were going to actually try and escape Egypt, but had somehow made a wrong turn (see Exodus 14:3-9).
Leaving Egypt was never on Pharaoh’s agenda !
Enclosed here between the desert mountains and the sea, Pharaoh’s spies told him the Israelites were trapped and he personally lead his army in to guarantee their return to bondage.
Starting the 4th day 18th Abib NIGHT Yahweh parted the Red Sea and the
Israelites passed through safely:
“And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them:” (Exodus 14:19).
This “angel of God” was Christ Himself:
“Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ” (1 Corinthians 10:1-4).
He is our Shepherd - the Stone of Israel - see Genesis 49:24 !
“And Moses STRECHED FORTH HIS HAND OVER THE SEA, and the sea
returned to his strength when the morning appeared; and the Egyptians fled against it; and Yahweh overthrew the Egyptians in the midst of the sea. And the waters returned, and covered the chariots, and the horsemen, and all the host of Pharaoh that came into the sea after them; there remained not so much as one of them.
But the children of Israel walked upon dry land in the midst of the sea; and the waters were a wall unto them on their right hand, and on their left.
THUS Yahweh saved Israel THAT DAY out of the hand of the Egyptians;
and Israel saw the Egyptians dead upon the sea shore.
And Israel saw that great work which Yahweh did upon the Egyptians: and the people feared Yahweh, and believed Yahweh, and his servant Moses” (Exodus 14:27-31).
“Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto Yahweh…
And Miriam the prophetess, the sister of Aaron, took a timbrel in her hand; and all the women went out after her with timbrels and with dances.
And Miriam answered them, Sing ye to Yahweh, for he hath triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.” (Exodus 15:1-21).
“And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer . . .
And smote all the firstborn in Egypt; the chief of their strength in the tabernacles of Ham: But made his own people to go forth like sheep, and guided them in the wilderness like a flock. And he led them on safely, so that they feared not: but the sea overwhelmed their enemies.” (Psalms 78:35,51-53)
This 18th was a great “day of gladness”, salvation, celebration and thanksgiving !
This 18th according to the Dead Sea Scrolls solar calendar, was the weekly Sabbath day ! This 18th Sabbath day, Christ our Shepherd/Stone/Rock herded the whole flock of Israel out of the Egyptian pit ! (N.B. see Matthew 12:8-13).
This 18th was the weekly Sabbath day on Yahweh's Heavenly Calendar, and so they would not have travelled any further that day, because they were already out of the Egyptian pit and it was fitting to celebrate and praise Yahweh, as they did for the rest of that day on the opposite shore of the Red Sea !
After three days journey across Egypt to the Red Sea - this 4th day 18th Abib Sabbath day salvation of Israel is also that 18th Abib Sabbath Day Resurrection of Christ - Lord of the Sabbath Day - after three full nights and three full days in the dark tomb:
“He will swallow up death in victory; and the Lord GOD will wipe away tears from off all faces; and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth: for Yahweh hath spoken it.” (Isaiah 25:8)
So Moses and Yahweh didn’t lie - they did travel THREE DAYS into the Egyptian wilderness
to sacrifice, and by the end of the third days travel they encamped at the Red Sea:
That 18th NIGHT starting the 4th day, Pharaoh, his chariots, horses and army were all sacrificed in the Red Sea. Death for Israel was literally swallowed up.
Pharaoh had no idea that he himself and his oppressive army were to be Yahweh’s sacrifice (sacrificial Red Sea slaughter/feast in divine judgment) The Red Sea Gulf of Suez, "tongue of the Egyptian sea", as the Bible calls it, literally swallowed them up and the fowls of the air and monsters of the deep had a great feast !
Now there was no Pharaoh to return to and Israel was free to go !
God did split up the SEA!!! A scipture says "So the children of Israel went into the midst of the sea on the dry ground, and the waters were a WALL to them on their RIGHT hand and on their LEFT" Exodus 14:22.
Real red sea crossing is at Nuwebia beach, which is a red sea between Eqypt and Saudi Arabia. It was discovered by Ron Wyatt and real mountain Sinai was also found in median of Saudi peninsula.
Ron Wyatt is a known liar
@vedinthorn I am sorry, but He is not a liar. His discovery on Noah's ark, real Sinai Mount, Sodom and Gomorrah site has provided more evidence than archeological evidence for generation of Pharoahs. His discovery on Noah's ark has not only been investigated by Turkish local scientists but is literally studied by researchers around the world. Furthermore, it was not only Mr.Wyatt who found the real Red Sea crossing and mount Sinai, there were Korean doctor who investigated this site and found multiple evidence regarding israel occupation as indicated in the Bible.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp can you stop spamming the same question everywhere?
@@vedinthorn so you also can't answer the question 🙁
And yet on each side of the red sea are ancient signs saying where the Israelites crossed.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
People of all kinds please state if your christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics.
#1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral?
#2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child?
#3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others?
#4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it?
#5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?
“No one undergoing a trial should say, “I am being tempted by God,” since God is not tempted by evil, and he himself doesn’t tempt anyone. But each person is tempted when he is drawn away and enticed by his own evil desire. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.”
James 1:13-15 CSB
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@@pillarsofpurpose >>No one undergoing a trial should say, “I am being tempted by God,” since God is not tempted by evil, and he himself doesn’t tempt anyone. But each person is tempted when he is drawn away and enticed by his own evil desire. Then after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin, and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.”
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?????? How did that answer the simple moral questions?
It was the Red Sea. And the mountain of Moses was in Saudi Arabia. There are photos of the alter with cows. The rock that Moses split is there. And the mountain is black on top.
Wrong on all counts.
I don't believe this.
The Sinai peninsula was over centuries and still is under control of Egypt. You have to leave also Sinai through the Red Sea to be in a region where no Egypitan would come to (after they raised a new army)
Two added observations:
1. Exodus 14:21 Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and all that night the LORD drove the sea back with a strong east wind and turned it into dry land.
2. People, and even animals, could walk on mud where Exodus 14:25-31 tells us:
clogging their chariot wheels so that they drove heavily. And the Egyptians said, “Let us flee from before Israel, for the Lord fights for them against the Egyptians." Then the Lord said to Moses, “Stretch out your hand over the sea, that the water may come back upon the Egyptians, upon their chariots, and upon their horsemen.” So Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the sea returned to its normal course when the morning appeared. And as the Egyptians fled into it, the Lord threw the Egyptians into the midst of the sea. The waters returned and covered the chariots and the horsemen; of all the host of Pharaoh that had followed them into the sea, not one of them remained.
So an observer could as easily ascribe the observations to natural causes.
Hey! Even if they crossed a "reed sea" that was only about a foot deep, then praise The Lord He destroyed the Egyptians with just a mere foot of water!
This debate could serve as an opportunity for Biblical archaeologists to empirically test the hypotheses made by the late amateur archaeologist Ron Wyatt about the Nuweiba Beach and the adjacent sea bottom in the Gulf of Aqaba, which is shaped like a bridge with gentle W-E slopes stretching from the aforementioned beach on the Egyptian side to the opposite Arabian coast. That would be a worthwile, albeit a daunting endeavor.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
@@Michael-pn5lp40 years of wandering would result in as many as 14,600 campsites. Why do you think they would list all of them in the text and not just the major ones? The text states that they were near the philistines but God took them the long way around and intentionally through the sea to destroy pharaoh and his army so the world would know He was God. Please refer to a map of the Middle East and consider this. Objectively, I think Ron Wyatt presented a theory that is best supported by the text and the archaeology.
I don’t know what y’all are talking about, the word used is the same word that was used many other times in the OT, the Hebrew hay-yam..not yam-sup..hay-yam just means sea..not Reed sea, or Red Sea
Im looking right at my Hebrew word translation..tbh I can’t find “Red Sea” in any of my biblesNKJV, NIV, ESV
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Actually yes theyfound chariots at the bottom of the red see. Look it up
No they didn’t. That was a story put forth by a satirical news website that Christian’s picked up and ran with. No chariots or armies have ever officially been found at the bottom of the Red Sea.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
I do balk a bit at the impulse to naturalize miracles. But I appreciate that he hedges his arguments here by buttressing the power of God.
why would God not use the science and logic he created to do miracles? What else is the point of creating science and logic otherwise?
@@scovafd The question is nonsensical, because a miracle by definition is a divine intervention circumventing the normal laws of nature.
Science and logic allows humanity to make sense of the normative structure of the world.
If miracles were purely explainable naturalistically, they wouldn't be miracles.
@@SeraphsWitness I'm going to have to completely disagree. Science doesn't make a miracle no longer a miracle. I think the definition isn't the end all, be all of what it actually means.
yes, science can explain that a strong enough wind current that flows in one direction all night can split the waters, but lets be honest here, that almost never ever happens. Now pare that with the fact that Moses was able to retrieve his people on the exact night that the wind current was going to do this, and he opens his arms right when it starts. You're going to tell me, that's not a miracle? brother, the odds of anyone just doing that without the power of God guiding them is so close to zero that I'd have to assume its zero, especially in an age where they couldn't scientifically track wind patterns. God would undoubtable preform miracles within the logic of the realm he created. just because science can prove it, doesn't mean that makes it something that just happens. When was the last time a 60mph wind flowed in such an exact way for an entire night, and split waters created dry land to walk across the whole plain? That kind of stuff doesn't just happen often, if ever...
@@SeraphsWitness You make a claim here with [a miracle by definition is a divine intervention circumventing the normal laws of nature] and yet you have a low understanding what The Eternal Holy Creator God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) can do. There is no requirement that He break any of the laws of nature to bring about His will. Just as there is no requirement for Him to only use the laws of Nature to bring about His will.
The Eternal Holy Almighty Creator God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) is quite free to use whatever He deems to be appropriate without recourse to you or me. He will not go against His Nature and all of creation is at His command.
So when you say [If miracles were purely explainable naturalistically, they wouldn't be miracles.], you completely miss what The Almighty Holy God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) does. What so people fail to understand is that the reality about is an ongoing miracle that we think is something mundane. We live in a continuous miraculous universe that does obeys laws that have been put in place by the Glorious Creator God. We have a privilege to be able to investigate this and we should do so, always keeping in mind just how wondrous are the works of the Almighty.
@@scovafd You ask [What else is the point of creating science and logic otherwise?] and in doing so appear to make a mistake here. [science] is a not thing. What we do is scientific investigation - a systematic logical process by which we attempt to understand the nature of the universe around us.
When people use the term [science] (especially many who are atheistic professional scientists), they are attributing to a set of beliefs a status that is often undeserved. They give this quite badly defined term an authority to make their particular beliefs over what others might be saying.
The reality of our current level of scientific knowledge is far lower than what many would have you believe. We have theories, models and hypotheses for which we still are investigating the validity of those theories, models and hypotheses. Don't make the mistake that any theory or model is true. This is something we cannot do and cannot prove.
The best we can do is have something that is useful in the furtherance of our knowledge. But every theory has its problem edges. In addition, we often find that there are multiple different theories and models that match up in their predictions and where some get better prediction in one area while others get better predictions in other areas.
There is an old adage made popular by the statistician George Box : [All of our models are wrong, but some are useful]. A version of this was taught to our undergraduate engineering group many decades ago.
The Eternal Holy Creator God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) is fully capable of using what He has created in any way He determines to achieve His will - whether that be by using the laws of nature He has put in place or intervening and overriding those laws. We are just creatures and we have no place in demanding that He does things in accordance with our determinations.
Essentially, it matters not one whit what we think here - as this is not a salvation issue. We can have our opinions, but that is all they are in regards to this matter.
Moses didn't split anything. God did it.
If the faith of the prophet is unnecessary, why have him there at all?
I think God, through Moses, is most likely.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
So if it was a reedy lake, How did the Egyptians drown. It was the Red Sea. And the other side of the Red Sea is the land of Midian.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
there is evidence that it was actually the red sea as we know it today. the big body of water seperating the sinai from arabia. at the place of crossing there is a pillar which supposedly is made by king solomon to show that it was there and in that place....the water is the most shallow.......so easier to cross even without water. if it was a deep rift it would still be very hard to cross. They also found parts of chariots on the sea bed in that exact spot.
Yam suf seems not credible as reed sea. c.f.: 1Kings 9:26, Solomon builds a fleet of ships on the shore of yam suf.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Why people act like Ron Wyatt didnt exist?
Yam Suph does not mean "sea of reeds."
Moses did not do anything except what God wanted.
God did it
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
Interesting…
@Pints with Aquinas, the doctor here is incorrect because the Greeks were the World's Geographers of Moses Era, yet they were totally unaware of the Gulf of Aqaba.
God told Moses in Exodus 28 what the borders of the Promised Land were and this description used "Yom Suf" which meant in Hebrew "Lands End".
Why would God set the borders of the Promised Land so close to Egypt so they could be easily reinslaved?
this doctor takes the Egyptian approach to take away the Glory from God and he is doing so without physical evidence.
There is absolutely zero evidence of Pharaoh's army under the Suez Canal, Lake Timka or Lake Ballah.
Furthermore, Egyptian references to Pa-Hahiroth and Etham are much later than 13th Century BC. Pa-Hahiroth in Egypt is 6th century BC.
Today Etham is the town of El-Thamad, Sinai Penninusla. Its only an hours drive to Elat, Israel (Yom Suf).
We are told in 1 Kings that Solomon set up his navy at Yom Suf.
Why would the Jewish King set up his naval base so far from his homeland?
Only the Hebrew approach with Hebrew definitions of words puts you in Saudi Arabia (ie the Land of Midian) one month after their departure.
I suggest the doctor watch Tim Mahoney's program "Patterns of Evidence: Exodus". Mahoney goes thru all the logistical, geographical, biological, Archeological and textual evidence for the Gulf of Aqaba.
Even if they crossed in 6 inches of water, that just makes it a bigger miracle because then God drowned the whole Egyptian arm in 6 inches of water.
How could you cross over the sea of reeds and end up in Arabia??.....Gal 4;25
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ????
Ancient Arabia was far more extensive than today.
Matt Fradd asks if the Bible has a typo?
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ???
@@Michael-pn5lp Not sure how this addresses my question. Are there typos in the Bible?
@@SuperKripke See my comments in the main comment section.
I found an old tire in a lake near my house. That is proof to me that these people are delusional. Praise god.
Moses had no power to do anything. It was God's holy spirit which exerted a force to keep the waters of the Red Sea up.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
@@Michael-pn5lp : Is this talking about the Law Covenant which was given along the 40 year trek?.
A scripture please.
@@tongakhan230 See my comments in the main comment section.
"Did Moses Really Split the Red Sea?"
Nope.
God Did. He pointed Moses at it and Bam
This guest seems very uncertain
Yes, not the Red Sea, but the Sea of Reeds. Read "Where was the Biblical Red Sea?" by Barry J. Beitzel.
Is this guy a Presbyterian?
No
Enjoy the short format
What does the Bible say? God doesn't lie or make mistakes.
There are three stops recorded to the Biblical Red Sea crossing "sacrifice", in line with the three days travel requested to a "sacrifice". 1+1+1=3
Where in the text do people get many MORE than three stops or days to the Gulf of Aqaba crossing ??
The Exodus happened during a recurring natural disaster that is caused by planet 9, circling our sun in an eccentric orbit. Planet 9 is known in Judea and in Egypt as Ra. In other areas it is known by many different names. Due to this crossing planet, at a very high speed, water is pulled up very high even above the highest mountains. As a result, on the other side of our planet shallow parts of the sea fall dry for at least half a day. That made the Exodus possible. That planet 9 was seen in Rome and Chinajust before our era. It has a symbol, a six pointed star. The Bible gives many details about at least five of these disasters that are presented as an act of god. Much more information and many relevant depictions can be found in the e-book: The unbelievable Bible".
Matt's forehead is the size of the Red Sea