Say what you want about Jordan Peterson. But his mythological view point on the Bible allowed me to get closer to the gospels, and now I’m a full believer. So, there is that.
I was already a believer when I started watching him and at first was frustrated by how close he was without being all in. I would call him "the best accidental evangelist". 😂 but then I really felt like the Lord was telling me to just trust it, as JP is bringing so many secular minds to freshly approach a book they may not have ever even opened or seen as anything other than a fable. Then, I was able to trust that he would indeed lead many to the Lord in a much deeper way than perhaps a single emotional testimony. JP is so incredibly well read... I'm not sure I've heard of anyone who has read as much as that man. And it means more coming from someone who has taken in all the great literary, scientific, historical, and philosophical works and still reaches the conclusions he does on the word of God. A LOT of people NEED that, as they have too many other facts and questions to wrestle with ❤ What a beautiful thing
There is a reason why Archbishop Fulton Sheen told Bill W., founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, to remain outside of the church when he requested instruction in the faith. Sometimes formal conversion is not indicated and baptism by desire must suffice.
As a protestant who is feeling led to RC, I have absolutely loved these episodes with Dr. Bergsma. Please have him on whenever he can! I LOVE hearing about biblical archeology here on this channel too.
Dr Bergsma is one of the most brilliant and engaging speakers today. My faith has been deepened and my mind enriched from listening to him. I'm convinced that great minds like Dr Bergsma build up the Church by their faith and witness. Please have him back to discuss the importance of recognizing Moses as a historical figure. May God bless him and his family.
I absolutely love Dr. Bergsma. His teaching is so clear and his style so engaging. There is no excuse for being ignorant of the faith in this day with teachers like him and platforms like Matt's.
@@thejamnasium6447 Did you get a lot out of this video? You appear a bit preoccupied with your bias against Catholicism. Maybe you could put that on the shelf for an hour and just listen to what is being said here?
Let's join our hearts in prayer for those in need. 🙏💓 May their challenges transform into opportunities, and may they find the strength to overcome every obstacle. 🌟💪
I haven't often commented but I have to say that these past two videos with Dr. Bergsma have been some of my favorite shows ALL TIME for Pints with Aquinas. Would love for Matt to have him back as soon as possible! I feel like my wife and I have learned so much from this.
I'm from NZL 🇳🇿👍❤️ I love my Catholic Faith and I need to do more! I learn a lot by watching a lot of your podcast! Thank you Matt! 🇳🇿🇨🇰🙏📿🌹❤️🇳🇿🇺🇸🙏 God bless America.
When I began watching this video, I was planning to split my viewing into several parts because of its length, but Dr. Bergsma is so fascinating that I watched it in a single sitting and was both surprised and disappointed that it ended so quickly. Thank you, and God bless you both!
Hey, I saw this guy at St. John Cantius last week. I loved his presentations! As a current Presbyterian, a lot of his points really resonated with my personal experience
@@mikelopez8564 Exactly. I really only started considering Catholicism back in May this year and very quickly became skeptical of, and later opposed to, Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide. Dr. Bergsma went down the same path I'm currently on and does a great job articulating all the inner conflict
I’m crying!!! This is so good! This is what Star Wars fans were wanting and what we deserved! I feel satisfied for the first time in my Star Wars journey!
Yes dude!! Matt really made objections strong and I love him for that having dealt with objections against faith since I was in school it was great to hear him bring those up!
I had a very similar story of feeling as though I had been lied to and lead away from church history my whole life. I dove into everything I could for months and months and now I am happily at home within Orthodoxy! ❤
Beautifully said @vrgg8376 . Now I must agree with everyone, yes Matt had good questions but he slightly mocks and pokes fun at Biblical history but I get it. For sake of discussion and all the curious people, I get it but still. An amazing conversation nevertheless and a very knowledge full convo!
I frequently say to myself, "Wow, this is the best Pints with Aquinas episode I've heard yet!" Aaaand then it's not too long before another one comes out and I say it again. This is one of those times! Fantastic conversation and extremely informative. I'll definitely look at some parts of scripture differently now, especially Exodus. Fascinating stuff! You must have Dr. Bergsma back on again sometime.
If you could, I don’t know how busy he is but having Francis Chan on this podcast would absolutely blow me away. With his current venture of unity but not at the cost of truth. It would be amazing to hear you go back and forth.
Matt thanks for your show and gentlemanly attitude. My teenage son watches all the time and your shows/clips have played a part in him now contemplating priesthood! ❤
I believe Ron Wyatt located the Red Sea crossing - the natural path from Egypt to the Red Sea, the raised shelf that spans from one side to the other at an ADA Compliant incline. Legally prohibited from removing/disturbing the environment, the best he got was photos of coral shaped as chariot axels & spoked wheels... And so much more.
Thanks Matt for the Auto-Caption, really help us in indonesia cause our english are bad, , this is a great show and Mr. Bergsma is my hero, thank you 😊
Joe Rogan is vehemently anti-Catholic and has spoken so many disgusting blasphemies against Jesus Christ and his Apostles. Not exactly the compliment you think it is.
@@RJ-oh1writ’s not supposed to be a direct, exact comparison. He’s the largest, most popular secular podcast on the internet, and tbf besides the false ideas Rogan has about Catholicism, the podcast has enjoyable aspects. It’s still a compliment - it’s saying Pints has the good aspects of Rogan Podcast without the blasphemous things. Anyway it’s a lighthearted compliment, there’s no need to be so up in arms
@@littledrummergirl_19 Joe Rogan is a good commentator for the UFC. I like to avoid his podcasts because he frequently mocks religion while also saying everyone should try psychedelics. He’s “enjoyable” because he’s polite and funny, but that doesn’t mean he’s worth investing time into listening.
@@RJ-oh1wrTruly and there's another historical figure they did same thing his name was Saul of Tarsus AKA the apostle St. Paul. I pray for Joe Rogan and I also pray for all who blaspheme the deposit of faith! God bless you my friend! 🔥🤟
I agree and the podcast is improving and it was already great. How do you know what has been done and not been done? Is there room for lay research for those St. Anthony of the Desert so inclined(don't get out much)
God bless you, God be with you. You have solidified my faith. Please pray for me, that I may find the strength to do wha you an Jesus have called me to do.
We owe so much to the Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you, St Luke, and Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the great care via divine love to document the times of our Lord and subsequent trials of the first Christians. Imagine the number of souls brought to Christ. 🙌 ❤
So many good reading and practice recommendations to grow in the faith. Thank you! Appreciate that you have faithful Catholics in all walks of life, Matt. Praise be to God!! Have you ever interviewed a middle-aged who is single hasn't been called to marriage or religious life?
I like to listen to this episode every so often -- it helps me feel grounded, when contemporary events threaten my peace of mind. (And this is of God, Who tells us in so many places in the Scriptures, "Be not afraid.")
I also was finishing my doctorate during the 90s when the minimalists were all over the place. Very disheartening, but it also became rather ridiculous, since it was clear that the proponents had little interest in actually listening to evidence. My job during that period was working with a project that photographed ancient inscriptions. Anytime anything was found that actually related to biblical history, there was a huge effort to date it to a late period or explain it away as being something different. In some ways that still has not changed.
@gogr2409 We are in sync. Listening to John Bergsma is mindblowing. We're so fortunate to have access to people like John in our midst. I wish my brain could retain more of what John imparts to us. 🙃
Coptic binding is called exactly that because Coptic Egypt perfected the process of stitching pages together between two wooden sheets to form the first book prototypes with wood covers.
Thank God for Dr.B’s vocation and life of study so far and for the platform of this podcast! This has to be one of my favorite videos - packed with such good references and information. Can’t wait to explore further and share.
This is one of the best videos ive watched- to have all your common bible questions addressed in one video! just wow! i'd usually have to search for each one all over TH-cam. Thanks a lot guys- this was amazing.
Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for us especially today on your memorial; let us be cheerful that our Father's will made know by the Son empowered by the Holy Spirit triumph and reign through Ever-Virgin Most Powerful Mother of God, Mary and encourage us through this podcast with Dr. John Bergsma and Matt Fradd! Thanks be to God that there is there is no PhD and no manual laborer, no Harvard or no peasant uneducated in the Kingdom of God! We are all beloved and a humble and contrite heart God will not spurn! Hello! Everybody! Thank you for Dr. Bergsma, Mr. Fradd, and his man Thursday! Anyone else who rejoices: "I love being Catholic which is a complete Christian!"? Friday, September 15, 2023
Please have Father Trenham on for a chat. That would be great. I was raised both Orthodox and Catholic and love when faithful and knowledgeable people from both sides have fruitful discussions. It can bring us back together.
Oh gosh, those small details. Just today I said "I called fish and game" and immediately in my head went "oh, it's not called that here". I absolutely LOVE these historical tidbits 🥰🥰🥰
I have legitimately learned so much about Scripture and dogma etc from this podcast that I find it hard to believe The Lord was not involved in it. This is a lay ministry, Matt, thank you for your show and thank The Lord for you.
I hop as you transiition to locals you will continue to post vidos like this to youtube for evangelistic purposes. So many protestants have been introduced to the church by finding your show here.
I really appreciate the in depth explanation about the story of Abraham and Isaac. Because I had some concerns about that story - "What kind of Father willingly sacrifices his son? This is cult behavior" But this explanation shed a lot more light on this story so thank you.
Love this and so much you do. While sure Thursday is a wonderful person, I find his intersections very distracting to the long form dialogues. It interrupts the flow of conversation.
Bergsma, siempre dándonos esa ortodoxia académica, enriquecuda por la fe. Gracias por esta entrevista larga. Bergsma, always ging us that academic orthodoxy enriched by faith. Thanks for this long interview.
Loving these interviews!!! I just found this, it’s 3 years old. Did you guys see Ben Shapiro playing Ave Maria on the violin???!!! Praying for his conversion and would love to see him on with Dr. B!!
The eagle from Rev.12 is possibly an individual, namely St. John, son of Zebedee, the Apostle, to whom our Blessed Mother was entrusted at the foot of the Cross, and with whom she lived a life of contemplation and prayers at Ephesus.
This is the movie that Mel Gibson should make... The whole book of Acts showing the founding of the Catholic Church. If it was done well and precise it would convert so many protestants because most don't know history. They fundamentally don't know that the early Church was the Catholic Church.
Maybe among protestants who've... never read a book or something, but any protestant who's even remotely interested in theology or history obviously knows that lol
@@mitchellm2208I mean many people (even some Catholics) don’t realize that the early church was Catholic - maybe lots of people who really read into it might come to that conclusion, but even Dr. Bergsma talks about how he used to think the early church was Calvinist - so as long as it’s done well it at the very least couldn’t hurt :) and what a cool topic for a movie!
@@Bigchickens bro three popes are in the bible Peter, Linus, and Clement. There's even a Church Council. Heck Isaiah 22 prefigures Mathew 16 line for line. Not only are there Popes in the new testament the old testament typologically prophecies about it.
@@oswaldomaldonado1051interesting, I am not catholic but considering it. Could you, if it isn't too much of a problem, give me reading material to investigate this further?
Very interesting comments on the Tabernacle and Tut's tomb. Also note that Israel's sacrifices were outwardly similar to the nations around them but were offered to Yahweh.
Also, the animals that God ordered Israel to sacrifice were held as sacred by the Egyptians. So it was like God was trying to help Israel abandon their idolatry, and prove it, by offering them as sacrifices every morning and every night.
Yes I am from Egypt and I can help you in developing an episode about the miraculous apparitions of our Lady of Zeitoun 1968, let me know I can help 😊❤
Amazing conversation!! Learned so much, thank you. I’d love to see a discussion with Hugh Owen, Director of the Kolbe Centre for the Study of Creation.
Hi Matt! I am very drawn to your channel. I am a Southern Baptist, but I have been fascinated by Catholicism for many years. The main thing that really holds me back (and I am having a hard time finding the right words here) is the Mary thing. I believe she is the mother of our Savior, but I do not find in my Bible that I should be praying to her. I really want to understand this. Is something you or Thursday(?) could help me understand? Thank you.
Read Acts 15 7 and see Peter taking the mandate of all evangelism away from the apostles and onto his shoulders. Allow yourself to be taught by the relevant authority put in place by Christ.
I have had similar thoughts, part of the confusion came from the word choice "Pray" means to ask or beseech, I would say that Catholics "Praying" to Mary is most similar to asking God for an opportunity to speak and grow a relationship with our holy mother, by consequence of her creation as a being who God declared could not be any better, in other words perfect meaning there are few better people to ask for advice, as well as God's love for her being so great that her "Prayers" to God on anyone's behalf are quite powerful, by no means do Catholics mean that Mary is separate from God's power or the same as him, At least that's my understanding I hope it helped you.
Research the Kingdom of David and how it was set up. Remember that Jesus is the promised successor of David who is setting up a Davidic-style Kingdom. This is why he gives Peter the keys: he's turning over all authority to him (for how that works in a Middle Eastern kingdom, read carefully the authority given to Joseph in Egypt both in Potiphar's house and by the Pharaoh: it is basically total authority without actually *being* the king in person). Then look up the gebirah, the Queen Mother. The Queen was not the wife of the King but his *mother*. Note how Bathsheba is Queen because she is Solomon's mother. It is she who requests that David declare Solomon King while David is still living. Solomon becomes co-king with David (a nice type of God the Father and God the Son, if you will, in this kingdom). Then notice Bathsheba's authority and why she is Queen: it is the Queen Mother who knows and has authority to say that "this one" is the rightful King. It's not that Mary just gave birth to Jesus: she is the ONLY human creature who has the authority to tell us that her Son is the Son of God. Further, look up what happens when someone wants a favor from the king: they go to his MOTHER and Solomon even sets up a throne for her next to his before asking her to make her request. Go deep and notice in the deportation narratives how often we're told a king *and his mother* are taken into captivity. Why? Because those loyal to the king and wanting to restore him would go to his mother as the rallying point: she alone could guarantee that the real king and not an imposter was brought back to power. Likewise, the conquerer wanted to take away the king's mother so that he could take over as king without opposition from the Queen Mother who would be a sign to everyone of the conquerer's illegitimacy. Look at the two visits to the Holy Family in the Gospel. When the low-class shepherds visit, they find mother, father and child. But the Magi are clearly on a state visit. They visit Herod first, as protocol would demand. But when they go to the new Davidic king on their state visit, who do they visit? The king and his mother with him, exactly as they would have found the first successor of David: Solomon on his throne with his mother next to him. Read carefully the prophecy of Elizabeth when Mary visits her: "Who am I that the mother of my Lord (the title David used for the Messiah) should COME TO me?" Of course! The Queen Mother doesn't go to you; you go begging to the Queen Mother! Elizabeth knows her royal protocol! Look at the Wedding in Cana in John's gospel. Mary tells Jesus about a need of some people and he asks, "What is that to you and me?" (check the oldest translations). She doesn't even discuss it with him. She acts like the Queen Mother who whose request naturally will be honored. And further, her command to the servants does exactly what the Queen Mother's role is: she points to her Son as the legitimate King, saying, "Do whatever he tells you." You need to study the Bible and understand how Jesus is creating a new Davidic kingdom. It's why two apostles' MOTHER goes to Jesus and asks for them to sit on his right and left in his kingdom. Pay attention to his answer: those places have already been given by the Father. Now ask yourself sensibly: in heaven, who was the only perfectly faithful disciple of Jesus? Who is likely to be sitting at the right hand if Jesus? Go to Revelation and notice that when the dragon cannot go after the woman's baby, he turns to her other children: US, subjects of the King, to whom we were given Mary as our mother from the Cross. You need to read the Bible with understanding. Just read everything Mary says in the Bible and ask yourself who this woman is. There are good books and audio studies on this.
Look up the video on this channel called "*EVERY* Objection to Mary Answered" - hopefully they have answered your question. It's is also in the prayer of the magnificat: "All generations shall call me blessed"...
The short answer is there's a miscommunication concerning the meaning of "prayer." If by prayer one means talking directly to God then Catholics would agree we don't pray to Mary (or the saints). If prayer means ask, which is the old english meaning of the term ("I pray thee tell me", "pray tell," etc), then it can be applied to God and creatures. (Longer answer below.) The official language of the Catholic Church (see the Catechism) in reference to Mary and the saints is "invocation", to ask for assistance. "Pray to the saints" is colloquial catholic terminology; it's shorthand for asking for their intercession/assistance, but always with the understanding that all gifts ultimately come from God and must be aligned with His will. It's no more an action which sidesteps God's authority anymore than asking those on earth to pray for us or help us sidesteps God authority. For a more biblical defense refer to James 5:16 (who is more righteous than those already in heaven?), Rev 12 (Mary as Queen of heaven), Matthew 22:32 (the saints are alive), Rev 5:8; 8:2-4 (the saints pray for us), John 19:26-27 (Mary, given by Jesus, as mother of the Church). (The following is from a comment I found online) Take the Hail Mary, for example, which is the exemplar prayer to Mary: "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blest is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." The first half of the prayer is a quote from scripture (Luke 1:28, 42). The second portion is a petition to Mary, asking her to "pray for us sinners."
“Try doing that with a scroll.” It’s very interesting to think about it like this, how a book was such a technological innovation for writing at the time that it was akin to RAM for a computer. This is probably why Christians were referred to as “the people of the book” in many historical accounts, especially in the Middle East. The reason is because we were the only ones who made books, and there was only one book that was made by us. So the phrase “the people of the book” was just as specific as calling someone “a card carrying communist,” in the minds of someone immersed in the culture of that time it conjures an image of a specific kind of person.
To my Protestant brother who had a question about the Canon .. if I can be bold enough to add to “Dr B”, the 7 deuterocanonical books were also in the septuagint and the Latin Vulgate. As a Protestant that was huge for me in understanding that those books are inspired.
YES! THE EAGLE TOOK MARY THE QUEEN INTO THE DESERT! Jesus gave his mother Mary to John "Woman, this is your son. Son, this is your mother." John has always been represented by THE EAGLE! Who is this scholar anyway???
Love this❤. So if you think about it. The Bible is a book of history and truth. The God who made the universe truly visited us and live with us for a while how amazing is Thats makes me feel special and love. Jesus truly love us. And the devil hate that. Because it proves how God loves us so much. ❤
I've wondered if the fact that crucifixion caused the most suffering and was the most torturous way to be killed and was practiced at that time and place factored into the timing of Christ's Incarnation. Like that the gravity of humanity's sin is so great that God wanted a drastic picture of what, in mercy and justice, it should cost to redeem us and atone for it.
Jesus I pray that one day I can have a pint with Matt and talk about you! 🙏
@homosexualeffeminatebiomale3go home
Hope we can see this
I’d livestream that
Love your channel dude
I will pray for you
Say what you want about Jordan Peterson. But his mythological view point on the Bible allowed me to get closer to the gospels, and now I’m a full believer. So, there is that.
I was already a believer when I started watching him and at first was frustrated by how close he was without being all in. I would call him "the best accidental evangelist". 😂 but then I really felt like the Lord was telling me to just trust it, as JP is bringing so many secular minds to freshly approach a book they may not have ever even opened or seen as anything other than a fable. Then, I was able to trust that he would indeed lead many to the Lord in a much deeper way than perhaps a single emotional testimony. JP is so incredibly well read... I'm not sure I've heard of anyone who has read as much as that man. And it means more coming from someone who has taken in all the great literary, scientific, historical, and philosophical works and still reaches the conclusions he does on the word of God. A LOT of people NEED that, as they have too many other facts and questions to wrestle with ❤ What a beautiful thing
He is resisting so hard …. Mrs P’s Rosaries will get him over 😉
I'm so happy to hear this!
There is a reason why Archbishop Fulton Sheen told Bill W., founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, to remain outside of the church when he requested instruction in the faith. Sometimes formal conversion is not indicated and baptism by desire must suffice.
@@stormyoutdoors4845🎉❤😅
As a protestant who is feeling led to RC, I have absolutely loved these episodes with Dr. Bergsma. Please have him on whenever he can! I LOVE hearing about biblical archeology here on this channel too.
I hope you come home soon, what a joy it would be to receive and welcome you. Trust Him, and His Spirit to lead you to all Truth. Will pray for you 🙏🏼
Dr Bergsma is one of the most brilliant and engaging speakers today. My faith has been deepened and my mind enriched from listening to him.
I'm convinced that great minds like Dr Bergsma build up the Church by their faith and witness. Please have him back to discuss the importance of recognizing Moses as a historical figure.
May God bless him and his family.
Faith comes not from mind AND The mind. ❤
I absolutely love Dr. Bergsma. His teaching is so clear and his style so engaging. There is no excuse for being ignorant of the faith in this day with teachers like him and platforms like Matt's.
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs indeed, the narrow path is.. narrow
Kred792 I am going on The Narrow Path Friends 👋🙏
so true. i love him. i discovered him on bible timeline show. i have been binging on his videos since. what a goldmine for the catholic faith. ❤
His blink rate is off.
Dr. John Bergsma is the best!!!
Yes he is.
@@peaceandjoy2568Agreed Friends I do enjoy listening to His Insight in Scriptures and Biblical Relevance in Modern Day.👋🙏
Stunned by Scripture: Why bible made me catholic by Dr John Bergsma was a great read
that's funny because so much of catholic orthodoxy has absolutely no base in scripture.
@@thejamnasium6447 care to point out which ones?
@@thejamnasium6447 Did you get a lot out of this video? You appear a bit preoccupied with your bias against Catholicism. Maybe you could put that on the shelf for an hour and just listen to what is being said here?
Of all my friends, teachers and priests, no one was more integral to my faith development at Franciscan than Dr. Bergsma.
How so? I've been listening to his lectures for years in YT and im just amazed how he makes other people love leviticus.😅
@@sarasofiacastro6750at least it works for some people Leviticus is very difficult to make interesting 😂
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God sent a meteor.
Same
Let's join our hearts in prayer for those in need. 🙏💓 May their challenges transform into opportunities, and may they find the strength to overcome every obstacle. 🌟💪
I haven't often commented but I have to say that these past two videos with Dr. Bergsma have been some of my favorite shows ALL TIME for Pints with Aquinas. Would love for Matt to have him back as soon as possible! I feel like my wife and I have learned so much from this.
31:53 'try doing that with a scroll..' 😂 I love when Bergsma sprinkles in some subtle sass while making a good point
I'm from NZL 🇳🇿👍❤️ I love my Catholic Faith and I need to do more! I learn a lot by watching a lot of your podcast! Thank you Matt! 🇳🇿🇨🇰🙏📿🌹❤️🇳🇿🇺🇸🙏 God bless America.
When I began watching this video, I was planning to split my viewing into several parts because of its length, but Dr. Bergsma is so fascinating that I watched it in a single sitting and was both surprised and disappointed that it ended so quickly. Thank you, and God bless you both!
I can honestly say I think these Dr Bergsma videos are the peak PWA
Next to the Shroud one he did recently
Bergsma and Peter Kreeft are my favorite guests.
I learn so much from Dr. John - it’s so relatable the way he teaches too - thank u for having him on your show -
Hey, I saw this guy at St. John Cantius last week. I loved his presentations! As a current Presbyterian, a lot of his points really resonated with my personal experience
The door is always open, brother. God bless.
Dr Bergsma grew up Dutch Reformed so he probably speaks Catholic with a Reformed accent.
@@mikelopez8564 Exactly. I really only started considering Catholicism back in May this year and very quickly became skeptical of, and later opposed to, Sola Scriptura and Sola Fide. Dr. Bergsma went down the same path I'm currently on and does a great job articulating all the inner conflict
Praying that you also have the Grace to join us in taking communion.
Come Home! 😇
24 minutes in, more with him. He is a great guest to learn from. Full enthusiasm for the gospel and its history
What an amazing discussion. This discussion has moved me so much. There is so much here. How can I ever thank you both?
just pray for them, I guess is the best way to thank these people we will probably never meet
Greetings Friend 👋🙏
I’m crying!!! This is so good! This is what Star Wars fans were wanting and what we deserved! I feel satisfied for the first time in my Star Wars journey!
Wow wow thanks for this! Italian here listening to this while on my pilgrimage in Medjugore. God bless you
I bought a paper back Bible and covered it myself with soft leather, it's about a decade old and so far so good!
Don't let Dr. John's brilliance distract you from how great the questions from Matt were in this show.
Yes dude!! Matt really made objections strong and I love him for that having dealt with objections against faith since I was in school it was great to hear him bring those up!
I think it's perfectly acceptable to give thanks for both in equal measure
@@kred792 Dr. John is my favorite. I don't watch all of Matt's shows but he did a great job on this one.
@@danvankouwenberg7234 same. Awesome stuff
I had a very similar story of feeling as though I had been lied to and lead away from church history my whole life. I dove into everything I could for months and months and now I am happily at home within Orthodoxy! ❤
I thoroughly enjoy listening to Dr. Bergsma. He is so knowledgeable and so clear in his teaching. I'll listen any time you have him on.
Same here
Amazing! Dr. Bergsma makes compelling arguments in favor of the Bible through literary and historical analysis. So compelling!
Beautifully said @vrgg8376 . Now I must agree with everyone, yes Matt had good questions but he slightly mocks and pokes fun at Biblical history but I get it. For sake of discussion and all the curious people, I get it but still. An amazing conversation nevertheless and a very knowledge full convo!
I frequently say to myself, "Wow, this is the best Pints with Aquinas episode I've heard yet!" Aaaand then it's not too long before another one comes out and I say it again. This is one of those times! Fantastic conversation and extremely informative. I'll definitely look at some parts of scripture differently now, especially Exodus. Fascinating stuff! You must have Dr. Bergsma back on again sometime.
I can relate here when I listen to Pints with Aquinas and “this is the best episode!” 😂
I really hope Matt will invite Dr Bergsma back for another and longer discussion.
Dr. Bergsma is an amazing teacher.
If you could, I don’t know how busy he is but having Francis Chan on this podcast would absolutely blow me away. With his current venture of unity but not at the cost of truth. It would be amazing to hear you go back and forth.
Dude that would be so lit!!!! Especially having heard him discuss the Eucharist. It would be a crazy discussion.
@@carmeister_ everyone Francis has been talking too since he really got into home churches has been enriching. Like something deeper awoke in him. 🙏🙏🙏
That would be absolutely amazing
Matt thanks for your show and gentlemanly attitude. My teenage son watches all the time and your shows/clips have played a part in him now contemplating priesthood! ❤
Prayers for your entire family that your son discerns the priesthood well
I believe Ron Wyatt located the Red Sea crossing - the natural path from Egypt to the Red Sea, the raised shelf that spans from one side to the other at an ADA Compliant incline. Legally prohibited from removing/disturbing the environment, the best he got was photos of coral shaped as chariot axels & spoked wheels... And so much more.
1:52:00 - Differences between Catholic and Protestant Bibles (ends 1:59:00)
2:04:20 - About early church and the Eucharist (ends 2:07:00)
I live for content like this! Hearing about, and seeing the actual evidence for the things that happened in the Bible, only makes my faith stronger!
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Thanks Matt for the Auto-Caption, really help us in indonesia cause our english are bad, , this is a great show and Mr. Bergsma is my hero, thank you 😊
I must admit, I love watching this show. I am not Catholic but I stumble on this by accident n I am learning so much. U never stop learning.
I wish this was 5 hours long
Matt! You're like the "Catholic Joe Rogan"! Your spontaneity, curiosity, candour and range of topics! Thank you 😁
Joe Rogan is vehemently anti-Catholic and has spoken so many disgusting blasphemies against Jesus Christ and his Apostles. Not exactly the compliment you think it is.
@@RJ-oh1writ’s not supposed to be a direct, exact comparison. He’s the largest, most popular secular podcast on the internet, and tbf besides the false ideas Rogan has about Catholicism, the podcast has enjoyable aspects. It’s still a compliment - it’s saying Pints has the good aspects of Rogan Podcast without the blasphemous things. Anyway it’s a lighthearted compliment, there’s no need to be so up in arms
@@littledrummergirl_19 Joe Rogan is a good commentator for the UFC. I like to avoid his podcasts because he frequently mocks religion while also saying everyone should try psychedelics. He’s “enjoyable” because he’s polite and funny, but that doesn’t mean he’s worth investing time into listening.
@@RJ-oh1wrTruly and there's another historical figure they did same thing his name was Saul of Tarsus AKA the apostle St. Paul. I pray for Joe Rogan and I also pray for all who blaspheme the deposit of faith! God bless you my friend! 🔥🤟
I agree and the podcast is improving and it was already great. How do you know what has been done and not been done? Is there room for lay research for those St. Anthony of the Desert so inclined(don't get out much)
I have been on a Bergsma/Pitre diet since last July :)😍😍
So has my husband 😂 and I started that diet a couple months back! So enriching!
Same, with a little Hahn thrown in for good measure 😅❤
@@heidigabalski6335 yes !! I’ve lost count how many Scott Hahn books we own now 😅😬
Can’t wait to dig in! I’m buying the book they did. Make sure you guys dig in to Jimmy Akin also.
im in this club! 🙌🏻
It's so amazing how this video was uploaded right before I take Dr. John Bergsma class on Biblical Study at FUS.
God bless you, God be with you. You have solidified my faith. Please pray for me, that I may find the strength to do wha you an Jesus have called me to do.
Dr Bergsma..what a blessing to the St Paul Centre and to us. Thanks Matt for swiftly having him back on..wow..so happy!!!🎉🎉
I love ur interviews with dr bergsma! Love from the philippines
Absolutely fantastic show. I LOVE Dr Bergsma. Thank you so much for this❤️☦️
An introduction to the bible is so good. It really helps as a companion.
We owe so much to the Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ. Thank you, St Luke, and Our Lord Jesus Christ, for the great care via divine love to document the times of our Lord and subsequent trials of the first Christians. Imagine the number of souls brought to Christ. 🙌 ❤
Thank you so much.
Dr. Burgsma is great
i was actually expecting a 4h talk. but such a pleasure to learn. God bless
Thank you for having Dr. B back in the podcast ❤❤❤
I am praying one day Dr. Brant Pitre would sit and have a pint with you, Mr. Matt Frad!
Yes!!!😊🙏🏻
So many good reading and practice recommendations to grow in the faith. Thank you!
Appreciate that you have faithful Catholics in all walks of life, Matt. Praise be to God!!
Have you ever interviewed a middle-aged who is single hasn't been called to marriage or religious life?
I like to listen to this episode every so often -- it helps me feel grounded, when contemporary events threaten my peace of mind. (And this is of God, Who tells us in so many places in the Scriptures, "Be not afraid.")
I also was finishing my doctorate during the 90s when the minimalists were all over the place. Very disheartening, but it also became rather ridiculous, since it was clear that the proponents had little interest in actually listening to evidence. My job during that period was working with a project that photographed ancient inscriptions. Anytime anything was found that actually related to biblical history, there was a huge effort to date it to a late period or explain it away as being something different. In some ways that still has not changed.
This is absolutely fascinating. It thrills me that secular history corroborates what we know to be true by faith.
@gogr2409
We are in sync.
Listening to John Bergsma is mindblowing.
We're so fortunate to have access to people like John in our midst.
I wish my brain could retain more of what John imparts to us. 🙃
John was hoarse by the time he finished this session.
THANK YOU JOHN.
LOVE this talk so much. Very cool. Made driving my daughter to school almost worth the cost of gas:)
Best PWA episodes ever. Thank you so much Dr Bergsma!
Thank you so very much for this interview! Dr. Bergsman is amazing!
Coptic binding is called exactly that because Coptic Egypt perfected the process of stitching pages together between two wooden sheets to form the first book prototypes with wood covers.
Thank God for Dr.B’s vocation and life of study so far and for the platform of this podcast! This has to be one of my favorite videos - packed with such good references and information. Can’t wait to explore further and share.
This talk is absolute food. Thank you, gentlemen.
This is one of the best videos ive watched- to have all your common bible questions addressed in one video! just wow! i'd usually have to search for each one all over TH-cam.
Thanks a lot guys- this was amazing.
Our Lady of Sorrows, pray for us especially today on your memorial; let us be cheerful that our Father's will made know by the Son empowered by the Holy Spirit triumph and reign through Ever-Virgin Most Powerful Mother of God, Mary and encourage us through this podcast with Dr. John Bergsma and Matt Fradd!
Thanks be to God that there is there is no PhD and no manual laborer, no Harvard or no peasant uneducated in the Kingdom of God! We are all beloved and a humble and contrite heart God will not spurn!
Hello! Everybody! Thank you for Dr. Bergsma, Mr. Fradd, and his man Thursday!
Anyone else who rejoices: "I love being Catholic which is a complete Christian!"?
Friday, September 15, 2023
This was an excellent interview with Dr.Bergsman thank you for sharing. I learned so much . Lorraine
Please have Father Trenham on for a chat. That would be great. I was raised both Orthodox and Catholic and love when faithful and knowledgeable people from both sides have fruitful discussions. It can bring us back together.
Oh gosh, those small details. Just today I said "I called fish and game" and immediately in my head went "oh, it's not called that here". I absolutely LOVE these historical tidbits 🥰🥰🥰
I have so enjoyed the episodes with Dr. Bergsma!
Kudos to Bergsma for making all this long stories short.
Loved to watch this show. Dr. Bergsma is always so interesting and full of a good sense of humor. Really appreciated this show.
Thank you for bringing Dr. Bergsma back on your podcast, Matt Fradd!
Ya!!!! Shout to British Columbia, Canada!!!! The setting of hallmark movies.
I have legitimately learned so much about Scripture and dogma etc from this podcast that I find it hard to believe The Lord was not involved in it. This is a lay ministry, Matt, thank you for your show and thank The Lord for you.
I hop as you transiition to locals you will continue to post vidos like this to youtube for evangelistic purposes. So many protestants have been introduced to the church by finding your show here.
I love every episode you have with Dr Bergsma
I love this!!! Can we have 3 more hours? 😀
Wow. Great listen as I work through my day. Danke
I really appreciate the in depth explanation about the story of Abraham and Isaac. Because I had some concerns about that story - "What kind of Father willingly sacrifices his son? This is cult behavior" But this explanation shed a lot more light on this story so thank you.
Love this podcast. Really really intelligent and deep.
Love this and so much you do. While sure Thursday is a wonderful person, I find his intersections very distracting to the long form dialogues. It interrupts the flow of conversation.
A Dr. bergsma/ Michael Heiser debate/conversation would have been outstanding. RIP Dr Mike.
This is so good. Totally my thing.
Bergsma, siempre dándonos esa ortodoxia académica, enriquecuda por la fe. Gracias por esta entrevista larga. Bergsma, always ging us that academic orthodoxy enriched by faith. Thanks for this long interview.
Loving these interviews!!!
I just found this, it’s 3 years old. Did you guys see Ben Shapiro playing Ave Maria on the violin???!!!
Praying for his conversion and would love to see him on with Dr. B!!
One of my favorites - gosh he's good!
The eagle from Rev.12 is possibly an individual, namely St. John, son of Zebedee, the Apostle, to whom our Blessed Mother was entrusted at the foot of the Cross, and with whom she lived a life of contemplation and prayers at Ephesus.
Yes! Can’t wait for part 2 of the Catholic Introduction to the New Testament. Part 1 is awesome.
Great stuff. Will def watch this more than once.
This is the movie that Mel Gibson should make... The whole book of Acts showing the founding of the Catholic Church. If it was done well and precise it would convert so many protestants because most don't know history. They fundamentally don't know that the early Church was the Catholic Church.
Maybe among protestants who've... never read a book or something, but any protestant who's even remotely interested in theology or history obviously knows that lol
@@mitchellm2208I mean many people (even some Catholics) don’t realize that the early church was Catholic - maybe lots of people who really read into it might come to that conclusion, but even Dr. Bergsma talks about how he used to think the early church was Calvinist - so as long as it’s done well it at the very least couldn’t hurt :) and what a cool topic for a movie!
The Protestants and orthodox would mock you for such a statement. No pope in early church that has ultimate authority as vicar.
@@Bigchickens bro three popes are in the bible Peter, Linus, and Clement. There's even a Church Council. Heck Isaiah 22 prefigures Mathew 16 line for line. Not only are there Popes in the new testament the old testament typologically prophecies about it.
@@oswaldomaldonado1051interesting, I am not catholic but considering it. Could you, if it isn't too much of a problem, give me reading material to investigate this further?
Very interesting comments on the Tabernacle and Tut's tomb. Also note that Israel's sacrifices were outwardly similar to the nations around them but were offered to Yahweh.
Also, the animals that God ordered Israel to sacrifice were held as sacred by the Egyptians. So it was like God was trying to help Israel abandon their idolatry, and prove it, by offering them as sacrifices every morning and every night.
Yes I am from Egypt and I can help you in developing an episode about the miraculous apparitions of our Lady of Zeitoun 1968, let me know I can help 😊❤
That would be great.
One of my favorite interviews!
Amazing conversation!! Learned so much, thank you. I’d love to see a discussion with Hugh Owen, Director of the Kolbe Centre for the Study of Creation.
Hi Matt! I am very drawn to your channel. I am a Southern Baptist, but I have been fascinated by Catholicism for many years. The main thing that really holds me back (and I am having a hard time finding the right words here) is the Mary thing. I believe she is the mother of our Savior, but I do not find in my Bible that I should be praying to her. I really want to understand this. Is something you or Thursday(?) could help me understand? Thank you.
Read Acts 15 7 and see Peter taking the mandate of all evangelism away from the apostles and onto his shoulders. Allow yourself to be taught by the relevant authority put in place by Christ.
I have had similar thoughts, part of the confusion came from the word choice "Pray" means to ask or beseech, I would say that Catholics "Praying" to Mary is most similar to asking God for an opportunity to speak and grow a relationship with our holy mother, by consequence of her creation as a being who God declared could not be any better, in other words perfect meaning there are few better people to ask for advice, as well as God's love for her being so great that her "Prayers" to God on anyone's behalf are quite powerful, by no means do Catholics mean that Mary is separate from God's power or the same as him, At least that's my understanding I hope it helped you.
Research the Kingdom of David and how it was set up. Remember that Jesus is the promised successor of David who is setting up a Davidic-style Kingdom. This is why he gives Peter the keys: he's turning over all authority to him (for how that works in a Middle Eastern kingdom, read carefully the authority given to Joseph in Egypt both in Potiphar's house and by the Pharaoh: it is basically total authority without actually *being* the king in person). Then look up the gebirah, the Queen Mother. The Queen was not the wife of the King but his *mother*. Note how Bathsheba is Queen because she is Solomon's mother. It is she who requests that David declare Solomon King while David is still living. Solomon becomes co-king with David (a nice type of God the Father and God the Son, if you will, in this kingdom). Then notice Bathsheba's authority and why she is Queen: it is the Queen Mother who knows and has authority to say that "this one" is the rightful King. It's not that Mary just gave birth to Jesus: she is the ONLY human creature who has the authority to tell us that her Son is the Son of God. Further, look up what happens when someone wants a favor from the king: they go to his MOTHER and Solomon even sets up a throne for her next to his before asking her to make her request. Go deep and notice in the deportation narratives how often we're told a king *and his mother* are taken into captivity. Why? Because those loyal to the king and wanting to restore him would go to his mother as the rallying point: she alone could guarantee that the real king and not an imposter was brought back to power. Likewise, the conquerer wanted to take away the king's mother so that he could take over as king without opposition from the Queen Mother who would be a sign to everyone of the conquerer's illegitimacy. Look at the two visits to the Holy Family in the Gospel. When the low-class shepherds visit, they find mother, father and child. But the Magi are clearly on a state visit. They visit Herod first, as protocol would demand. But when they go to the new Davidic king on their state visit, who do they visit? The king and his mother with him, exactly as they would have found the first successor of David: Solomon on his throne with his mother next to him. Read carefully the prophecy of Elizabeth when Mary visits her: "Who am I that the mother of my Lord (the title David used for the Messiah) should COME TO me?" Of course! The Queen Mother doesn't go to you; you go begging to the Queen Mother! Elizabeth knows her royal protocol! Look at the Wedding in Cana in John's gospel. Mary tells Jesus about a need of some people and he asks, "What is that to you and me?" (check the oldest translations). She doesn't even discuss it with him. She acts like the Queen Mother who whose request naturally will be honored. And further, her command to the servants does exactly what the Queen Mother's role is: she points to her Son as the legitimate King, saying, "Do whatever he tells you." You need to study the Bible and understand how Jesus is creating a new Davidic kingdom. It's why two apostles' MOTHER goes to Jesus and asks for them to sit on his right and left in his kingdom. Pay attention to his answer: those places have already been given by the Father. Now ask yourself sensibly: in heaven, who was the only perfectly faithful disciple of Jesus? Who is likely to be sitting at the right hand if Jesus? Go to Revelation and notice that when the dragon cannot go after the woman's baby, he turns to her other children: US, subjects of the King, to whom we were given Mary as our mother from the Cross. You need to read the Bible with understanding. Just read everything Mary says in the Bible and ask yourself who this woman is. There are good books and audio studies on this.
Look up the video on this channel called "*EVERY* Objection to Mary Answered" - hopefully they have answered your question. It's is also in the prayer of the magnificat: "All generations shall call me blessed"...
The short answer is there's a miscommunication concerning the meaning of "prayer." If by prayer one means talking directly to God then Catholics would agree we don't pray to Mary (or the saints). If prayer means ask, which is the old english meaning of the term ("I pray thee tell me", "pray tell," etc), then it can be applied to God and creatures. (Longer answer below.)
The official language of the Catholic Church (see the Catechism) in reference to Mary and the saints is "invocation", to ask for assistance. "Pray to the saints" is colloquial catholic terminology; it's shorthand for asking for their intercession/assistance, but always with the understanding that all gifts ultimately come from God and must be aligned with His will. It's no more an action which sidesteps God's authority anymore than asking those on earth to pray for us or help us sidesteps God authority. For a more biblical defense refer to James 5:16 (who is more righteous than those already in heaven?), Rev 12 (Mary as Queen of heaven), Matthew 22:32 (the saints are alive), Rev 5:8; 8:2-4 (the saints pray for us), John 19:26-27 (Mary, given by Jesus, as mother of the Church).
(The following is from a comment I found online) Take the Hail Mary, for example, which is the exemplar prayer to Mary:
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blest is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus.
Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen."
The first half of the prayer is a quote from scripture (Luke 1:28, 42). The second portion is a petition to Mary, asking her to "pray for us sinners."
“Try doing that with a scroll.” It’s very interesting to think about it like this, how a book was such a technological innovation for writing at the time that it was akin to RAM for a computer. This is probably why Christians were referred to as “the people of the book” in many historical accounts, especially in the Middle East. The reason is because we were the only ones who made books, and there was only one book that was made by us. So the phrase “the people of the book” was just as specific as calling someone “a card carrying communist,” in the minds of someone immersed in the culture of that time it conjures an image of a specific kind of person.
To my Protestant brother who had a question about the Canon .. if I can be bold enough to add to “Dr B”, the 7 deuterocanonical books were also in the septuagint and the Latin Vulgate. As a Protestant that was huge for me in understanding that those books are inspired.
I read a great article about how Hallmark movies are all Fascist propaganda, and since reading that I've grown to appreciate them more
I have so long been amazed about the Saducees non belief in the resurection. This explains a lot.
YES! THE EAGLE TOOK MARY THE QUEEN INTO THE DESERT! Jesus gave his mother Mary to John "Woman, this is your son. Son, this is your mother." John has always been represented by THE EAGLE! Who is this scholar anyway???
I was sad when this was over
Love this❤. So if you think about it. The Bible is a book of history and truth. The God who made the universe truly visited us and live with us for a while how amazing is Thats makes me feel special and love. Jesus truly love us. And the devil hate that. Because it proves how God loves us so much. ❤
One of the best episodes so far
I'm a Protestant and so impressed with Dr Bergsma and his teaching. I realized that this type of teaching is largely unavailable in Protestantism.
I've wondered if the fact that crucifixion caused the most suffering and was the most torturous way to be killed and was practiced at that time and place factored into the timing of Christ's Incarnation.
Like that the gravity of humanity's sin is so great that God wanted a drastic picture of what, in mercy and justice, it should cost to redeem us and atone for it.
This makes the most sense, as it is through the Cross that the world is redeemed.