How to Change Gearbox Oil. Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo/CityBug Gear Oil Replacement DIY
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Citroen C1/Peugeot 107/Toyota Aygo Gearbox Oil Change, How to/DIY.
CityBug Gearbox service tutorial
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Oil required is just under 2 litres of 75w80 GL4. Motor factors supplied 75w FS I’m told is also correct.
Tools required 24mm socket, or spanner if you like a bit of a struggle. Funnel and hose. Oil drain.
Drain and fill plug copper washer/sealing washer sizes are 18mm inside diameter. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Thanks for this, my Arthritis has cleared up!
Did this on our Aygo a week or so back. Really surprising how much difference it has made to the feel of the box. Much nicer changes, and selecting reverse is also much easier.
@@knackeredrovers nice. Good to hear it had a positive impact on the driving experience
Always wise to make sure you can get the fill plug off first before draining 😂
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@Cory Cade Instablaster =)
Another top educational video my good man! Well done on getting onto page 3 too 👌👍😁
Thanks mate!
@@solomonatlanta5953 I don’t have a king, I didn’t replace them G 🤷♀️
Couldn't agree more. This was my reference video when I changed my C1's gearbox oil for the first time successfully. Not all gearbox oil bottles come with a built-in extendable straw mechanism that you can use to inject the oil into the gearbox whilst lying beneath the car, so this really helped.
Top class, I'd say 💯
Also good idea to save the oil for contact lense cleaning
Yes, that too.
Great video mate. I drank the old oil for joint pain.
Good stuff. Did it work well?
I changed my gear oil about 18 months ago, drive shaft had to be removed. I used mineral oil to refill and the gearbox crunched badly. Changed to synthetic and it was OK. First time I'd witnessed oil type making such a difference.
I’ve not actually seen oil type make much of an in your face obvious difference that many times either tbh
What made me decide to change my C1's gearbox oil is that the gearstick was stiff and changing gears was a pain, especially when needing to downshift to 2nd and 1st gear. It wouldn't allow me to downshift to 1st gear, even if I were going around 5-10 km/h, unless I forced it (which caused slight grinding) or if I brought the car to a complete stop before gearing down to 1st. I was told by various people that the clutch needs to be replaced, but it was rather pricey, so I was hesitant.
When I changed my C1's gearbox oil for the first time, I couldn't find the FE 75W GL-4 oil as recommend in the manual at any stores near me, so I settled for cheap mineral 75W-90 GL-4. Actually ran worse than the old oil at the beginning, but as I drove the car a bit more, then it felt slightly better than the old oil. Gear changing was a real pain when the engine was cold, be it in summer or winter, but in the heat of summer, it felt really good at times, much better than the old oil even.
However, it still left much to be desired. I was still hesitant to do a clutch replacement, due to how pricey it is.
I then decided to do some research and see if I could find an FE 75W gearbox oil, and I managed to locate one. It was Fuchs Titan Sintofluid FE 75W GL-4 gear oil. Not sure whether it's mineral, fully or semi-synthetic, as it doesn't state on the bottle. Fuchs claims that it improves fuel efficiency and makes gear changing easier (can't say much for the former, but the latter I can definitely attest to 💯). Fuchs also claims that it's "fill for life", meaning that it never needs to be replaced, but I wouldn't count on it. My advice would be to either change it when you need to replace your clutch, or change it when you feel that your gears won't change as smoothly as before. My clutch is high and seems quite worn, but the gears change as easily as ever and the difference is indeed noticeable. Gears don't change as smoothly while the engine is cold compared to when the engine is warm (which makes sense), but the feel is way more consistent compared to the cheap 75W-90 I used prior.
I have no regrets changing the gearbox oil for the 2nd time (in quick succession) to the FE 75W oil. Makes a noticeable difference and my clutch is still going strong.
Forgot to mention that going into reverse gear was the biggest pain before changing to the FE 75W oil. Used to feel rough and grind often and couldn't go into reverse straight away. Needed to use the workaround of going back into neutral, letting go of the clutch, pushing down the clutch again, then change to reverse, then it would finally engage (without forcing it).
The FE 75W was defs an affordable solution. As stated above, my clutch is still going strong 💪
@@tippy6861thanks for this comment mate, going to give that oil a try. Everything still working okay a year in?
@@totaljustice1582 Still going as strong as the day I changed the gearbox oil mate 💯
Great tips there on the gear oil change 🤔
I had no idea it had gearbox oil I thought it was mixed in with the Engine oil 😳
Nice nail varnish lovely colour its a real pain to get off 😂👌👍
Most bikes have, and old Minis used to have shared gearbox and engine oil, but most cars it’s separate.
As another Lancashire guy im loving your youtube mate thing is with me im 51 shortley you can do it and not just talk about thats the difference
Cheers mate. On paper it’s Greater Manchester unfortunately, but it’s Lancashire to the people 🤷♀️
Great video Tim and Great result getting the Loved and Cherished Shitteron featured in the calendar. What for next year ?
Cheers and not sure yet,.. it’s just passed MOT so probably more the same, but with more holes drilled in it in random places 🤷♀️
Use as a broth....love it 🤣🤣🤣
Did you try it? 😃
I think your meant to keep a hand on that filling hose when you withdraw , it prevents any spillage and consequential accidents or 18 years worth of claims ,,,,
Can also prevent getting it in your eye 🤷♀️
Never knew that old gear oil is good for arthritis 😂😂
And hemorrhoids.
Done mine today, with help of your video so cheers👍
I just have one question, did your drain plug have a washer on ads mine didn't and the fill plug did 🤔
The drain should have a washer on yea, but yours might have stayed stuck the the gearbox. Keep an eye out for leaks though incase it’s fallen off
Any update on that arthritis?
@@rinima858 my hands still sounds like a cement mixer if I move them too much
I read the owners manual and it didn't give instructions on when I should change the gear oil. Where can I find that information please?
I would really appreciate your help.
Thank you
I’m not sure on that, I think most people just do it whenever the clutch is changed but for what it takes to do it’s better to be safe than sorry
In a broth! 😂😂
🤣
pushing your patience a bit here but the car is bleeping under acceleration, pretty sure that a new clutch is needed but just want to switch off the bleeping for now, any ideas mate
I don’t think you can just turn the beeping off, but there is a procedure to reset the clutch adaptation, but I don’t know it. If you ask on the Facebook CityBug group there will be likely someone on there who will know though.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos thanks again mate
@@tomstay1335 no problem mate
Did your drain plug featured a magnet to catch any metal residues ?, normally the plug in a gearbox is a magnetic one
Can’t remember for certain, but I’m pretty sure there wasn’t one on this.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Understood, i saw the drain plug on your video but i thought if there was any steel residue attached (if the plug was magnetic), you had cleaned it earlier
Thanks!
How much engine oil does your car use? think the Aygo we have does about half a pint in 4000 miles but i change the oil twice a year and bollocks to the once a year change toyota says
They all use a bit. That’s pretty good for one of these 👍
I change every 8500 km
Do you know the size of the drainplug? I want to replace those because they are Rusty
18mm thread I believe, but I could be wrong
its semi auto 2tronic gearbox?
This one is a standard manual.
But is still a manual gearbox with some actuators, the procedure should be the same
Agree with you on the smell of gear oil, it reeks. I work at a gearbox factory, I come home smelling of it every day. 🤢
I bet you’ve got to fight the mrs off with a stick every night when you come home smelling of that stuff?
Please can you link/send me an Amazon or eBay uk link for the fill/drain plugs and washers pls thx
I didn’t get them off Amazon so don’t know, probably best just to search for them tbh.
Good for arthritis and joint pain ha
Like a budget cod liver oil.
Does this work for the Auto version?
I think so. As far as I’m aware the auto gearbox is actually the same gearbox as the manual but with electric actuators doing the work of clutching and gear changes, but I’ve never actually worked on one so can’t say for 100%
Same automatic gear box for aygo 2016 plate?
I think so, but I’m not 100% sure so best off checking with a motor-factors
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos this one in the video is automatic?
Has option to change gears semi automatic?
@@tiagok8203 no, this one is a manual however I believe the auto box is actually the same gearbox just that the clutch and gear changes are controlled by electronic actuators instead of by hands and feets.
How often would you change the gear oil?
The book says 100000/10 years, miles but I've never agreed with that, I reckon every 2-3 years
But usually only ever seems to get changed whenever the clutch is replaced.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos which is every 2 or 3 years 😅
@ How many miles you did this change?
I think most people just change it whenever they have clutch replaced tbh
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos
OK! Asking because i am the new owner of a 2012 Aygo with 34.000 miles on it with no service history of the clutch of fluid.
Can you end up over or under filling the gearoil at all?
It can be under filled if you don’t carry on filling until the level, but not really overfilled unless you do it on purpose really. As long as you put enough to reach the level plug in it will drain back out down to level as long as the level plug is out. If you overfill it, just leave the filler plug out until it stops coming out, then as long as you’re on level ground the level should be perfect.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos excellent advice as always, my C1 is 11 years old with 91k miles thought it be wise to do it now
@@mrt4409 yea I would. It’s not a hard job. As long as you put enough in so it’s overflowing from the fill plug, then wait for it to stop coming out before putting the full plug back in then it should be right.
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I will do I assume I can get away using the existing washer on filler and drain plug
@@mrt4409 they will probably be ok, but if you can get new ones it’s always better.
Must have done 20 oil changes on my old fiesta and never put a new washer on the sump, so you certainly don't need to do it every time
Yep, you can usually get a few go’s out of them. At work I change them every time as we have a box full in the workshop, but when I’m cocking about with my own stuff I only change them if they’re flat, or if I’ve got one to hand. They can be re-annealed too if your stuck. Aluminium ones smear with soap and heat til it goes black then let it cool gradually, copper ones heat till cherry red then quench. I think I did a video annealing a copper gasket a while ago come to think of it 🤔
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos PTFE plumbers tape works too
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos you got a JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!????
@@rodneyhull9764 aye, I’m a motorcycle mechanic/MOT tester. I usually take a bit more care, and give a bit more attention to detail when I’m working on other people’s stuff than I do in these videos though 🤣
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos I jest. Glad to hear that. Got bikes mi'sen,maybe another avenue to pursue ?
How often is gearbox oil changed?
Not sure on the interval on these, but it usually just seems to get changed whenever the clutch is replaced 🤷♀️
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Cheers. There's no filter to change during this process?
@@onepalproductions nah, it’s just oil that splashes around the gears. No oil pump etc
@@StupidBlokeStupidVideos Cheers.
How much gear box oil did u put in total ?
Around 1.8 litres if I remember right. 2l was more than enough to fill it anyway.
Pretty sure the book says 1.7 litres but you can ofcourse fill it this way and wait until it stops dripping
Incorrect gearbox oil - you need 75/80 GL4 not FS which is a Ford spec oil suitable for the type of bearing materials Ford use but also note it is a single grade oil unlike the multi grade oil required for your gearbox as the viscosity has to be 80 at temperature not 75
Read the small writing under the fully synthetic part. It meets various specs and is suitable for various manufacturers, GL-4 is listed amongst them. This is what the motorfactors system lists for the car anyway.
Tbh, I really don’t think these cars are fussy on oil anyway. The engine for example lists a range from 0w20 fully synthetic, all the way to 15w40 mineral oil if you do some digging online.