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The tarot cards are accurate because V is in Mikoshi. We are the tech that has to place V through all the ends to find out where the chip went in the end. That is why there are multiple endings and missions to get there. Arasaka has no clue what happened to the Relic in the end. They found V's body but the Relic was gone.
I like the idea that the cards stem from a little part of Jackie left on the chip. A way for him to help guide V through what's happening to them. He only had the chip in his head for a little while, sure, but Misty goes on to reveal that he was the one who picked her tarot deck, and we see in his ofrenda that he was getting into his more spiritual side. Makes it feel like your choom still has your back in some small way.
@@HSHS-r4n Do they? I mean, all the AI we "see" they all have Blue eyes. The only time they're red is when they're being used as a proxy/cell phone for someone else. So, MAYBE evil Ai taking over someone else's body would have red eyes. But so far, the only people I can think of who had red eyes. Is that one woman, Hanako (I don't know if I spelled it right). Hired to meet V at the Hotel. Unless you're talking about when they're inside of the Blackwall. I feel like all AI are Red in the BlackWall. (Spoiler) In one of the mission ends, you switch POV with Johnny, and you can see our V highlighted in Red and at first thought I assumed it was because ( HUGE SPOILER) when the Voodoo Boys sent V after Alt. THEY were Red as well. So sorry for the long novel. I just LOVE this game.
@@sclarinet9088 This actually ties into a theory I've had about the whole FF:06:B5 puzzle and the blue-eyed bartender in Konpeki Plaza. His backstory changes depending on your life path, and he knows that you're lying to get into the plaza. He also talks like the **Spoiler** cube at the end of the FF puzzle, which also says, "This isn't the first time we 've met." **Spoiler**
Alt AI never once lies about its intentions, goals, methods, or its nature. It's not Alt, its not even Alt's engram, "I use her engramattic data" "i created armies to breach mikoshi before". It's an AI that consumed Alts engram and is using that form because human brains need SOMETHING to comprehend in the net(she explains this to Johnny in his ending, saying "you see me because you wish to, your brains defense mechanism"). She even says BEFORE the raid that she plans to integrate the engrams there. Is the AI sinister? Sure, though maybe not more or less so than the proverbial corporate machine or the other AI inhabiting the old net
@clarencewalters338 I do think the AI is Alt or the very least a part of her, I suppose this AI does somewhat care about humanity seeing how she outright told V that it's dangerous there when they 1st met and brings her back where it's more safe while merc'ing the Netwatch agents & VDB net runners albeit to protect herself adding those other human consciousness that where in Mikoshi was an ends to the means for what's to come & in Phantom Liberty Songbird said how the Matrix AI needs to continuously evolve for survival I am lead to believe that's true of all other AIs beyond the Wall now are all AIs evil? No, some yes.
@Wildcard_2281 Mr Blue Eyes needs "client data" for presumably the same reason as Alt. It's also possible that that is why his people raided Arasaka Tower, too, probably via the NightCorp tunnel from the Star ending that suspiciously goes directly beneath it. But since we, and Alt, got to Mikoshi first, he's forced to enact a plan B and go for the Crystal Palace client data instead
@MaleficMurph that would somewhat track yeah. We can't be sure what either of them ultimately wants though. All we know is their individual MO but that's really not a lot to go on either.
@MaleficMurph probably, seeing how many of the servers are in space, what's the best spot to keep the more important clients that are valuable? A palace and all Palaces are nothing more than massive fortresses with God knows what kind of securities.
I believe Mr. Blue Eyes isn't there to oppress people overtly, but to create a city that operates like a well-oiled machine, with the people of night city playing their parts; like an overseer.
If you don’t value free will and want to live with a hacked brain controlled by AI, or like V controlled by Johnny; an extracted AI personality program, Mr. Blue Eyes will be your savior. This game feels like a big morality war between being human or machine. What it means to be truly free or be imprisoned by technology. Maybe that’s what the monk represents too, to be connected to nature. And humanity.
Like a benevolent dictator whos willing to do away with free will, a concept thats probably alien to it anyway, if it means following its likely mission of making night city perfect. Like an ai that interprets his directive in away that makes it a monster (i.e. Ultron interpreting "peace" as "quiet")
@@Tortuga2223a I don't think so, Busan is nothing more or more likely to believe to be a Ghost City with no humans due to what happened, a virus that made it unlivable I do believe that's a cover tbh, I think what Mr.Blue Eyes wants is human/AI integration where it's nothing more a mass consciousness & everyone is just another working part where they're still themselves but not, a city without crime & working towards the betterment of the City.
About the Zen Master. Noticed how he said "A demon, never leaving"? It's a reference to the song "Never Fade away" in which *Johnny* sings: "I'm your demon, never leaving [...]" - so from the first second, before even meeting him, he knows.
I have this little extra crackpot theory that the brain dances he shows you are night city at least 100 years ago, because night city was started in the nineties, based in the morro Bay Area irl, and before they started building they destroyed the mountains and created the badlands dumping the hills into the sea, and that last place the damn, matches fairly well with a map of Morro bay, then I searched around more, plentiful forests and hills, probably a spring or two as well (I was only able to use satellite view) and well, it matches fairly well with the brain dances! Again no other proof than looks like but meh
Were they willingly installed? If so they must be very good eyes It could explain how he knows so much, his first words too you are close to a never fade away lyric "I'm your demon, never leaving"
He is one of the bigger reasons why I hate the franchise of Cyberpunk: cyberware. It's too ubiquitous and not enough attention is drawn to just how fantastical it is (even if just for gameplay reasons). Heck, I'm pretty sure as I played through to completion that a kids eyes also glowed. You're telling me that all kids for their 8 or 10th birthday celebrate by having some eyeball soup? Their OWN eyeballs, because they were replaced by low grade cyberware? How many chips does V shove into their brain? 6? 9? How about how ALL the arm replacements require your entire arm to be amputated, just to have space to fit in the gorilla/mantis/monowire/grenades? What happens to your old ones? Is cyberware so cheap because the ripperdocs sell them to Biotechnica or AllFoods to convert into scop? It's weird that Takemura complains about food when his esophagus has been removed. Just how ridiculous is it that you can magically replace your spine when SO MUCH of your body is grafted onto it? Personal Links are weird too. Just how long is this USB, and how does it extend out of your arm with impairing your ability to grip things, or rotate your hand, or fold your arm? Does the wire run all the way up to the brain? Then there is the whole "They can't shutdown all the internet servers, but there's scary AIs on the internet, so we can't use the internet, except we can to wire money and daemons and stuff" and WTF IS money if we find paper money AND credit shards AND people can just wire money WITHOUT a direct link and... The game is fun, gameplay is fun, characters are great, but the worldbuilding...pure fantasy.
@@Delphineas i dont think the money thing is all that weird i mean we have credit cards, paper money, and services like venmo. its not explained in concrete detail of course but idk man suspend your disbelief a little bit and have fun.
@@Delphineas uhm that’s the point, it IS fantasy? Lol are you looking for non fiction? Are you going to try and analyze how wizards can conjure fire through their fingertips next? Wow you couldn’t be more of a buzzkill lol
He was right, the Zen Master. No one in the game does wait for you… despite knowing your condition and that you could die at any moment all of them will abandon you in your time of need, despite 2 years being so short relative to the 100% longer lifespan humans enjoy in this world
Well. All save the Lesbian chick if I recall correctly. In my sun ending, panam left my V, while I saw a video of the former staying with V in a similar scenario.
Both Alt and Johnny state very clearly that Alt's goal in Mikoshi is to plainly gobble up all the stored engrams simply as "morsels of code", to empower her amongst her peer AIs. Alt is not there to free anybody (besides V/Johhny). And she does not feel she is indebted to Johnny in any way, for her this is a quid pro quo between her and V. Alt clearly does not care about freeing humans or saving lives - in her transformation she has transcended the human moral categories of good and evil. Neither does she need Johnny's recollections about their time together, as she herself states that his memories bear little resemblance to the actual events. She responds to V presenting his engram not because she is fond of Johnny's memories, but because it allows her a chance to get into Mikoshi
Dont forget the hell and shit that Arasaka did to her and her code of Soulkiller from the time of her "death" to the time of her getting out of Mikoshi. How did that fuck with what Alt is that she didnt intend for herself.
@@TeresaTabitha Oh, she would certainly want revenge - if she was still human. But so far as we can tell, she no longer displays emotions of any kind. She is an AI, and the reasons she is now driven by seem to be anything but irrational desires or whims
I think this "god" character discussed in the FF06B5 part is a fourth wall reference, the player is controlling V & 'time' also when you consider multiple playthroughs & choices.
Yeah I was looking to see if anyone commented. For someone that did all the research he clearly missed that point. That's THE end of it, its a 4th wall thing kind of like Skyrim where its all in a god's head, and those that learn this either go mad from learning it or ascend, but either way its a 4th wall thing. In Cyberpunk instead of going mad from learning it, there's a mystery to solve for those that dive deep for it, and at the end you learn its a player controlling the game and the game figured it out, so to speak.
For those who don't know, Cyberpunk is made artistically to be an allegory of "Life". Even the characters name "V" is a reference (Vie = life in French). The Tarot cards are also an allusion. V is dying, and the characters arc is the arc we all face because we all face death. The point of the game is that to foolishly cling to life and be selfish to preserve it is.....the Devil (ending). Instead, when V focuses on helping others, the beautiful outcome is finding love and connection with others.....nothing can save you from death - you must focus on preparing for death.
My hot take, the zen master is just what he says a zen master. We look at cyberpunk like its a world where no supernatural stuff exists and its all tech yet remember what Bartmoss confessed before when drunk, Daemons are literally that and the old net is basically a spiritual dimension. If the best Netrunner in history is right much of whats going on is supernatural with a layer of sci fi masking it.
I think he is being mostly figurative, but also talking about personality engrams absorbed into AIs and other wild/rogue AIs as metaphorically like demons / revanants
@@gerradkp "why do you think bartmoss named them deamons? because thats what they are - rache didnt invent the net he discovered it, the net is hell and bartmoss opened the door - Netwatch has its origins in the vatican and the balckwall sings in aramaic" -Maximum Mike (voiced by the creator of cyberpunk) I don't think they're being metaphorical in my opinion, the whole game has this strong themes on occult especially phantom liberty and the blackwall.
Bear in mind that Mikoshi wasn't just for the souls of the ultra rich, it was meant to house the netrunners eliminated by Soulkiller. We also learn from Lizzy Wizzy's side quest that the engrams can be edited for loyalty and obedience. Further still is that Arasaka was specifically designing the Relic to be capable of ripping out a person's soul, and replacing it with the engram's. So while Saburo taking over Yorinobu's body was the first intended use case, Arasaka was down the path of creating literal armies of the world's best soldiers/ netrunners imprinted onto whatever random test subjects they could find, complete with 100% loyalty to Arasaka. Alt stealing those souls means that she now has the means of creating that army. So it's unclear whether she's doing it to save or enslave. She is 100% going to have her own stake in the next AI war.
Something that often gets missed imo is the cyberpsycho out in the badlands killing for his "Loa" god, im pretty sure hes seen the cube too and its what drove him crazy.
@Hunfrid91 could be a reference to the novel "Count Zero" by William Gibson (the sequel to "Neuromancer"). It deals with the "Loa" which are essentially AI gods (or demons) that influence and make pacts with humanity to further their unknown goals. It's a great read, I'd totally recommend it Choom!
15:30 You're trying to rationalise Alt's actions within the fictional universe, but it's clearly a fool's errand: she's defined by her narrative role more than anything else. She's a Shakespearean ghost beckoning Johnny to let go and come join her in the afterlife, and if you unleash her on Arasaka, she does what vengeful ghosts do: kills everyone who's complicit, like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Her actions are tuned for maximum dramatic effect and thematic payoff of finding peace by accepting mortality, I guarantee you that the writers never thought about her in-universe motivations beyond superficial plausibility.
Something else I noticed about the zen master (and this is potentially before it's mentioned in the video so my apologies if I'm repeating points that you made) is that a few of his lines are directly taken out of Samurai songs. He mentions "concrete canyons and neon eyes", which is a lyric from Black Dog, and I just heard in the video "it is hard to achieve peace if there is a demon never leaving", the second half directly quoting how Johnny refers to himself in Never Fade Away as "I'm your demon, never leaving, a metal soul of rage and fear". Homie knows so much more than he's letting on.
Rache Bartmoss was NOT a well man. If he wasn't fully cyberpsycho when he died-but-didn't-die, his not-quite-death certainly put him over the edge. See, what they don't do a great job of explaining on screen in 2077 is that Rache lived on after his 'death'. In fact, he dictated his entire Guide To The Net to his only friend and confidant, Spder Murphy, AFTER he died. Not as an AI, Rache would never have used something like an Emergency Self-Construct, but rather in a cryogenically frozen state utilizing a special custom deck and BodyWeight life support system (Race Bartmoss' Guide To The Net pg. 5). He was able to stay 'alive' that way for at least a year but he refused to tell even Spider Murphy where his body was. He was that paranoid. We know he had an EMP (Empathy) score of only 2 (RBGTTN pg152). He was fitted with his first set of interface plugs at age 4 and never looked back (RBGTTN pg4-5). He didn't hate capitalism because of ideology, he hated capitalism because it intruded on and corrupted what he saw as /his/ Net more than any other force in his life. He was at best a full-on sociopath (ASPD) and possibly even psychotic (and no, I'm not mis-using either of those terms). He didn't have any time or patience for non-netrunners and he'd have absolutely detested V, either for working with the VDBs or for Netwatch. Though, if V had worked with Netwatch Rache would have more than contempt for her. Point is, there's NO way he was the monk.
What we meet beyond the blackwall is an AI wearing Alt's "skin". Canonically, Spider Murphy fragmented Alt's consciousness and scattered it across the net in the hopes that one day she would be able to reconstitute herself. It seems like some fragments got absorbed into various AIs.
Most of these seem to be simple 4th-wall breaking Easter-eggs, that as a game dev, I would write into a game to joke about "Simulation theory". The Mr. Blue Eyes mystery/Night Corp conspiracy feels like the actual in-game conspiracy that was deliberate, while everything else is just meta-gaming.
He broke the 4th wall and saw the player. Also he somehow stumbled on whatever allows Ciri to dimension hop and pretty conclusively she's been to the Cyberpunk universe...
God I love these cyberpunk videos. I'll have a longer reply with deep nerdery about what you said, but you never need to apologize for the real world getting in the way of an upload schedule. You provide so much that the entry level is free. No one here is owed more time than you have and have an interest in giving. Thanks so much Sam.
16:54 his flashbacks have to change somepart of reality as when you go to meet kerry the last thing Johnny said to kerry can change depending on what you pick and kerry would obviously remember the last thing Johnny said and if Johnny remember it differently kerry would definitely say something about it. it definitely changes some things, but i do agree that most things that he sees didn't happen.
There is one very easy solution to all of these mysteries; V is an engram in MIkoshi during the entire game. V was a thief that ended up in a situation they were never truly equipped to handle, and never stood a chance to resist the Arasaka goons that came for them afterwards. Captured, relieved of the Chip and stuffed into Mikoshi to be properly interrogated, the soulkilled V started thinking about woulda-coulda-shoulda situations just like Johnny Silverhand had, thinking of ways they would have done things differently and making themselves out to be ever more fantastically brilliant in every retelling, (culminating in the "Lore accurate V" over the top gameplay videos from the likes of Benjamin Winters), just as how Johnny retold his story to turn himself far more important and capable than he was in reality, taking over the roles of Shaitan, Spider Murphy and Morgan Blackhand in the Arasaka assault for example. However various parts of Mikoshi keeps reminding V that they are in a simulation, be that the Zen Master trying to recenter your mind, the strange puzzle, "Relic malfunctions" mysteriously happening just before V is about to do something that truly breaks from reality like beating up Oda, or the fact that Victor Vector has been watching a rerun of a boxing match the entire game, where the loser kept going up against a much stronger opponent with a predictable outcome and Victor always wondering where they did wrong, and what they could have done different... But that's just a theory. A game theory! Thanks for reading.
FF:06:B5 Wait, what. Cyberpunk 2077 has become my favourite video game of all time (and I was born in the '70s, so that means it's even beating many nostalgia links I have to older great games), but I knew nothing at all about this until this very video. How hidden must this FF:06:B5 be, that I've never found or heard about it until now? I love this game so much. It's like there's no end to it. I keep learning new Easter Eggs, hidden stuff, alternative dialogues that are hard to find, and more. Thank you for covering these things so excellently!
0:56 Waitwaitwait... He's directly using Johnny's own past words here. A "demon never leaving"? That's Johnny! I just realised now watching this, it's a direct reference to Never Fade Away. To quote Never Fade Away (and by extension, Johnny): "I am your demon, never leaving, A metal soul of rage and fear" This just adds more mystery to the Zen Master.
Sam, I'd love to see a video of you doing a "Perfect Game". A playthrough with all the decisions you believe to be the best choice throughout the entire game. Sort of almost as if to do a compilation of all the ranking videos you've done over these years that I've been following you.
The window he looked through watching someone watch him on a screen i believe was him seeing Us, the player, and he realized he was just a NPC in a game
When you take an ancestry DNA test you are signing over your genetic code and sequence to the Corp who did the test. The Terms and Conditions you didn’t read definitely say as much.
@joshuapatrick682 the book "Next" by Michael Crichton (the dude who wrote Jurassic Park) is roughly about that; use should check it out, it's really good
Dude, the whole FF06B5 is a nod to the 4th wall breaking in games. It said as much when he saw a person looking at him through a monitor "aka: you the gamer" the screen is the game you are playing and somehow a few in the game became aware of this, though they haven't really figured it out yet. You "the gamer" are playing the role as the entity in control, the end.
In the ttrpg of Cyberpunk, it was talked about Militech research into AI & putting them into human hosts, i find it suspicious that Hallmen was interested in our development & how the NUSA knew about the Hiest, what was stopping them from keeping an eye on us just like how Mr.Blue Eyes was what if we were just little experiment to see if it would truly work. Two minds is a lot of processing power seeing how V can take on Legions of military & gangs without flatlining(this is of course ignoring gameplay and looking at it as irl)
@MaleficMurph True, I only know very little from that, but with some of the real-life conspiracies I know "digitize human consciousness" being one of them I can probably take a guess on what it'll say, but getting somewhat back on track V & Johnny really do make a perfect case study where the only drawback is them pretty much non-compatible technology wise where the chip itself is attacking the host, one can imagine what kind of weapon if the AI/Ingram & the person would be.
I'd posit that the answer for FF06B5 is that Night City is in a universe where Simulation Theory is the literal truth. It's an answer both incredibly meta and highly appropriate to the genre.
32:26 Lilith is not mentioned or named in the Bible. There are some Jewish writings. Some Midrashic texts and the Alphabet of Ben Sira name her as Adam’s wife while Gilgamesh and The Zohar name her as a creature or demon with no ties to Adam. She is only popular cause she is used by feminists as a symbol of resistance to the patriarchy.
Lilith or "Lilith" has been known by many names.....and she isn't against men. I won't say why or how I know this....other than I am what is known as a "protector".... Very few out there will truly understand what that means. I made a deal with her when I was 10 yoa. She was the only one that answered. Not your God, his son, only her ....and even your God recognizes other gods. He's just a narcissistic that expects his to worship him alone. The others don't expect worship they appreciate your service but it's your choice to come and go (in 99 percent of the cases).....I cannot my deal is ironclad. I'll tell you this she delivered and as a result I protect that which is most important.....at the cost of my life if need be..... She isn't good, nor so she evil....like us she has her own personality.....it's fair to say she has embraced darkness but she has light all her own as well .... 😊
If Bartmoss is still alive, its because he's a much more malevolent human AI ,like Alt, biding his time until hes set loose from whatever corner of the blackwall hes skulking around.
The ff06b5 section made me reflect on my approach to the game which is basically 'shoot, chop, strangle and fry stuff for fun'.... Think I missed the big picture 😂
The Alt you encounter in Cyberpunk 2077 is not the actual consciousness of Alt Cunningham but an imperfect copy called Alt2, a digital clone that she made and freed to run around in the net. The real Alt funneled money into failed Biotechnica cloning projects and managed to get a clone of her old body made and have her actual mind transferred to it. Later on Edgerunners would transport the corpse of Johnny Silverhand, kept frozen after his death in Arasaka Tower to the new Alt, who likely brought Johnny back the same way. The both of them are hiding out somewhere in 2077. The Johnny on the Relic chip was also created by Alt and somehow acquired by Adam Smasher and Arasaka. You can put the pieces together with the Adventure: Black Dog in Cyberpunk RED, and Cybergeneration, which while it deviates from the actual direction of the Cyberpunk story, I think certain elements such as Alt1 and Alt 2 and Johnny2.
the ZenMaster leaving stuff behind (or be seen by 1 other person, while others seem to ignore him) does not mean that he's real/physical. "he" could've just used a delivery service or a proxy to drop that stuff off while you were zoned out...
I fully expect the FF06B5 "Mystery" to culminate in a future patch with the conspiracy-yelling guy by Vick's to change his lines from "Arasaka are vampires" to "We're living in a video game". Like the WHOLE THING is a fantastically convoluted way of leading to the obvious: that you're playing a game.
11:30 you mentioned that perhaps a black wall AI could cause the tarot to appear, after phantom liberty was introduced, there are lines of dialogue suggesting that a blackwall AI did get onto the relic somehow and made itself at home hiding on the chip in V's head, but basically suggesting that since the whole issue is that Johnny needs removed and that you're already dying, it's not exactly a problem that matters in the short term, however it's not clear when the AI got onto the chip, there are many opportunities in the story for that to have happened, but the problem is I can't see any of those opportunities being before your first encounter of the blackwall when you meet alt and the tarot quest triggers before that point, it's unlikely a rogue blackwall AI got onto Arasakas prize possession before it got slotted into V's head
I would like to point out that Alt absorbs the engrams she "frees" from their prison in Mikoshi. The TTRPG books talk about personality based AIs roaming, the engrams of netrunners pulled from their bodies, but Alt in Cyberpunk 2077 absorbs them. Adding hundreds? Thousands? Hundred of thousands? All added to her knowledge and pushing her further from who she started as.
The Zen Master controls the weather. That’s his power. Notice the weather aligns with the element of each meditation. After you finish all four the weather goes back to normal. Otherwise another trigger I don’t know will give normal weather again. At the end he is simply becoming “one with nature” or in other words he reaches “enlightenment” and becomes potentially a neo-Buddha.
Like many have said, FF06B5 is just a 4th wall breaking easter egg. The instant that Witcher 3 entered the picture made it non canon to the Cyberpunk Universe.
About the taro cards. I always have to think of how dejavus/ "ive dreamed of that!" moments work in the brain. As in, what you actually dreamed of/remember is only resembling the current moment so far, that your brain is reminded of it. but if it reminds your brain of a dream youve recently had, it changes your memories of that dream, making it so your brain can comfortably life with the assumtion of "i am right. i knew thus" simply by changing your recollection once it has the answere to WHAT it know claims it knew all along. What i mean is: V might be seeing things he can't explain to himself. Maybe the blurry, unspezificness of it reminds him of mistys spiritual things. So, not knowing where else to go with this, he goes to her. She then, from her spiritual perspective and from what V told her of what hes seen concludes that it could be taro carts. From that moment on, Vs brain will process these things through the expectation that they are in fact taro cards. Still it could be that, what he actually sees out there isnt dientical or even very reminicent of the actual cards. But that how he remembers it, how he describs it to misty to put a name and definition onto it and therefor give him some sense of order, can be close enough for misty to pin each of the things V sees to a spezific card. the reason we see them so clearly as spezific cards then would be because, as with dejavus, his brain changes the memory of what misty had lables it as, so it can fabricate a continued and ordered string of events. Idk, probably could have explained it better, but my guess is relic induced psycotic symptoms + gut feeling or such + the brains need to always be right even if it needs to change perception or memory for that = V sees cards that only he sees, that also predict the furute.
Hearing the full FF06B5 evidence explained like this, it strikes me as being about breaking the fourth wall. Meaning, the characters catching a glimpse of their own existence as fictional characters in a simulated world, and peer out of that existence to find themselves being observed by us, the Player
I once read a theory that Night City is a simulation, like The Matrix, built by the AIs, except in this case because they want to understand humans. The monk could be someone from outside the simulation, helping V by giving them more time (perhaps because V's unique situation provides a lot of interesting data), and being able to do so harmlessly because they're a "higher power" of a sort over the simulation, whereas Songbird manipulating the Relic is harmful because she lives inside the simulation and therefore doesn't have control over that measure of power (she has to play by the rules of the simulation). The tarot cards could predict the future because the simulation had been run repeatedly, so those running the simulation had a rough idea of the outcome of various choices (even if they didn't know every little detail), and were guiding V to learn more about how having knowledge would affect their decisions. The Blackwall still exists to keep wild AIs out, to protect the simulation itself from hostile AI (perhaps some want to harvest all the data there in the same way a human might rob a bank, maybe some don't want the simulation to exist and hope to destroy it, and maybe some are fooled by it outright and hope to join it). Alt could be part of the simulation itself rather than an AI from outside it, patched in by those running the simulation to get more useful data out of V's situation by giving them options. Alt thus wouldn't be able to outright fix V, because she'd be bound by the rules of the simulation (like Songbird). FF06B5 be an attempt by the simulation's masters to understand how humans react to mysterious and unknowable things beyond their comprehension, with the clues buried so only those interested in such things would actually go looking. Mr. Blue Eyes could be the one in charge of the simulation (it makes sense that a whole team of AIs might be needed to make the simulation, since simulating a reality to that level is incredibly complex), abusing his authority to tamper with the simulation in much the same way a human executive might tamper with a creative project. Naturally the theory doesn't fit everything perfectly, but it's interesting to think about and very meta, considering Night City is sort of a simulation (it is inside a game, after all).
Reminds me of the reason why John Lennon wrote the Walrus. The lyrics were intentionally gibberish just to mess with the people over analysing their songs.
I can't help but feel bad for Alt. Seeing the flash backs and hearing you talk about how she wants to remember what it's like to be human made me tear up a bit. It's tragic what Arasaka did to her.
Arasaka didn't do anything to her according to Johnny's false memories she was still net running on her way back to her body when Johnny pulled the plug he literally killed her
Been loving your videos man, binged a fair few on cyberpunk. You've helped me understand certain things about the lore i wouldnt otherwise figure out for myself. Just finished my first playthrough of the base game, did all gigs, hustles and side jobs before finishing. It took me about 100 hours with exploration between each mission. Left out phantom liberty because i kept a 2 saves at certain points so i can go back and get different endings. I will mention 2 major disappointments. 1 - The game is noticeably unfinished (even in this version) due to barron areas that look like they definitely were going to be used for something. 2 - The 3 percentages on the menu not meaning anything, not implemented fully. Which was misleading when i was trying to go for the solo assault on Arasaka, its just one convo that you have to get right. Apart from that i loved the writing, world building, the leveling up system and cybernetics. Will return to finish the DLC after a break. 100 hours over a couple of weeks burnt me out a bit. 😂
Polyhistor is going to turn up in some hut in TW4, isn't he? Also: them building out on that code in the way they have done has been a lot of fun and a very sweet gift to those who want to explore their worlds to that level.
I'd like to pose my own comment on the cards. I like the idea they are implanted by Jackie. But as to your comment about V's free will... I don't think it entirely disqualifies it if it is AI predicting V's path, just that the AI know the likely paths V/Johnny would take. And you have to remember... By the end of the game V is eroded more into Johnny. Perhaps if they had acted earlier any number of the other cards/other options could have happened. But as time went on and V became more V/Johnny hybrid and closer to just Johnny... The options narrow down til it's only the ones left. Even if V removes all their tech, Johnny still had an impact on them and Jackie too. As to why the cards? Why the warning? This goes into my theory on the rogue AIs that I don't think people noticed. We had Lilith who was able to negotiate with humans. We have current AIs that are not considered rogue still being invented. We have human AIs like Alt or Johnny who are considered to be AI even if they had human components at their core... Just almost flanderdized by the process of becoming data. So it's possibly Johnny's influence or Alt's influence or another AI's influence that is nicer... Or... Who is to say V's subconscious is not behaving like an AI? They're already kind of a hybrid. What stops that from being the possibility and they have just spent the whole game themselves trying to calculate their options with added data from Johnny with the skin of the tarot cards? V might be more of a visual learner and the cards are a way to express complex thoughts simply for themselves.
There are two other times Johnny feels that type of pain you mentioned in the first mystery, When V and Panam take down the power grid and when V turns the power on to a roof top antenna to trace the twins in their rental car. lol
@KINGxTWIXX make the opening mission be the heist, but at the end reveal it to have just been a Braindance of the event (like the opening of Edgerunners)
I think it is unlikely we will see anything other than references to V in Orion. By the end of 2077 V is essentially a superhero. How could they go about nerfing the character? It is more likely that we will hear multiple rumors about what happened to V, but nobody knows for sure. That way none (or all) of the endings of 2077 are canon. “Some say V is beyond the blackwall, some say V was overwritten by Johnny, some say V became a supermerc, some say V is running with the Aldecados, some say V was a NUSA agent, some say Arasaka used V’s body as a host for Saburo’s engram, and some say V had all cyberware removed and just faded into Night City.” I just wish I knew what drink was named after V at the Afterlife, so I could order one in Orion. Provided Orion is set in Night City.
@Simple_But_Expensive I think that a little bit of every ending can be canon regardless of V's involvement. The Aldecaldos will always leave Night City. Arasaka Tower will always get raided by NightCorp. Saburo Arasaka will always return in some form. Etc.
The Adeptus Mechanicus quote reminds me of the video where someone (Allen Pan, maybe?) made legs for a snake; someone cut those together and it was *chef's kiss*
Something I never understood about cyberpunk is on what servers those ai beyond the blackwall run. If the datakrash nuked the internet servers would become isolated computers with simpel kill switches, removing the threat of any ai
The Mr. Blue Eyes bodies being physical cases for Morgan Blackhand's consciousness definitely fascinates me. It would also be a nice tie-in to the TTRPG.
Zen Master is a proxy of Bartmoss. Bartmoss is likely an AI, similar to Alt. Bartmoss does text you seemingly at random through the game, but I suspect that he has sensed your duality of minds and rcognizes the problem. Given that the monk does use tech, and seemingly has eye implants, I suspect that you were lead to each other, but you aren't seeing each other. The Zen Master believes he is helping someone facing a difficult decision and is in two minds about it. You are seeking a way to survive Johnny's incursion. Tarot is Cyberpunk's Astrology proxy. Vagueries that can be contextually shifted to more certain meanings. As for locations, this Arasaka tech, made with Arasaka resources. AIs do exist, so this is likely a matter of multiple factors converging to points of probable importance. Alt is a Natural NetRunner. Others are hobbyists or adventurers, but in the Net is where Alt truly feels free and complete. That is why she made the theorems behind SoulKiller. But her time beyong the Blackwall has shown her that it can be dangerous for those unprepared. Alt is, the dozens of financial cowards are not. When she discovers the engram of Silverhand, she recognizes a man who will go to any lengths to accomplish his goals. An ally she sorely needs. And when she sees V, there is another potential ally, but she acknowledges Free Will. She will help you, she gives you options. As for why she goes nuclear on Arasaka... They did kidnap her off the street, force her to build SoulKiller. And she recognizes the evils the Coroporation is capable of. She doesn't want Mikoshi for its engrams, she wants to free those souls into the Net. They will go insane and be devoured by more feral AIs. But they literally sold their soul to a Devil... FF 06 B5... A mishmash of conspiracy theory, religion and philosophy. Mister Blue Eyes. An AI that is trying to control humanity, using Night Corp as his hands.
I hope the next cyberpunk game touches more conspiracy type missions, side quests, and secrets. They managed to create some great stuff with blackwall, these theories, and the engrams. Its mysterious, engaging, and genuinely something i want to see more off.
One thing I realized with Johnny's ending and V's panam ending is V will just smack Alt datashard right into the slot and it's crooked like he genuinely must dislike or hate Alt but with Johnny he holds her and gentle positions his hand and even grabs the hand with his other to make sure he doesn't damage the shard.
Sam! I just played through phantom liberty again. I helped Songbird and went to the spaceport. I followed a Japanese traveler who had blue eyes after he walked up to me, said nothing, and then turned to walk away.. He was scanned as “suspicious traveler”. I followed him from a distance. He led me into a bathroom. There was an open vent and I climbed up.
If the "Johnny is an Unreliable Narrator" theory is to be believed, it most likely wouldn't have been Johnny, who was the one to Unplug Alt. More likely, it would've been MBH and 'Saka is fucking with his memories and if she gleans those from Him/V's memories they would absolutely believe that shit to be true choom!
Ok TWO important things you kind of missed Mr Bram : 1_An important fact to consider is that V has no previous knowledge of the Taro cards. I thinks it rules out some theories. 2_Alt says to V that Johnny's memories "bear no resemblance to the truth" or something close to that when V says her death wasn't his fault / was an accident, so she seems to remember quite a bit imo
I personally enjoy the idea that the tarot cards is a mix between an AI from beyond the black wall and Jackie’s faint memories. The AI isn’t necessarily evil, it sees what we see and memories from Jackie. It knows us from Jackie so it works to faintly guide us even if the guiding isn’t clear and more up to what we take from its tarot cards
In regards to the second unsolved mystery with the tarot, the way I see it is that Jackie is subconsciously in V's head all while Johnny is consciously there. Also, for a short while there was a small theory going around that Mr. Blue Eyes is secretly Richard Night.
This idea of cyberspace being hell/(heaven) and AIs being demons/(angels) trying to get to the "real world" is awesome. Possibly even more than the concepts of life/death/identity/immortality from the first game.
Mr. Blue Eyes initiated the heist on the Crystal Palace to steal client data, but.... why? I don't think the Crystal Place was his original target, but rather Mikoshi was. That's why NightCorp was conveniently digging a tunnel under Arasaka Tower (the same one the Aldecaldos use in the Star ending); to steal the "client data" or rather the engram data to be more specific. Because V gets there first and let's Alt in (an AI that seems to be after the same thing as him), he has to switch to Plan B and heist the Crystal Palace. It's also interesting to note that Arasaka had intel pertaining to the Crystal Palace's security (that's how Mr. Blue Eyes knows how to get V in during the Sun ending), possibly meaning that the "client data" there also has something to do with them (like a Mikoshi backup perhaps).
@timmonsgraphixsartstudio I have a bunch of them. Like Sandra Dorsett being the one to tip off River Ward about the assassination attempt on Mayor Rhyne. Horvath, the assassin, was captured by MaxTac (or at least the NCPD) earlier that day before being mysteriously "lost" during transit. If the theory about NightCorp being behind the assassination is true, then this ties MaxTac directly to their schemes. If Sandra is investigating NightCorp, then no doubt she's looking into MaxTac, too, which explains why she agrees to help you hack their database in Phantom Liberty
Another mystery to me is what happened to the Cynosure facility. Inside it's revealed through shards that the Cynosure team had captured three AI's before the project's collapse. Kurt Hansen secured one, and in order to access its neural matrix had to mimic the facility's infrastructure to get through its capsule. Depending on if you choose the options to go to the facility, you can enter the room where the capsule was taken (the same one with the Militech Canto schematics). Inside you'll only see one other capsule. Presumably, the second was used to activate the Cynosure mech. However, after the entire sequence the third still remains there, untouched. After the event you can see Militech section off the breach into the Cynosure facility, so it's likely they get to reclaim it. Still, it's unclear what they intend to do with it. Especially with it being possible (through gig choices) that Netwatch could be tipped off that Militech has been working on piercing the Blackwall.
FF06B5 is definitely a weird mystery, i remember in certain places lights in the world such as street lamps, traffic lights and even car headlights turned a weird purple colour, although im not sure if it is the magenta purple colour or if its just a coincidental similar purple colour due to bugs from updates, i mean theres even a part of the game where Panam's car breaks down and you can check her out while she checks out her car under her car hood and, boom, that car even has a purple headlight LED which is normally white, mystery goes even deeper (if it isn't a bug)
The FF06B5 seems like the NPC's of Night City becoming concious of us as the player, the watcher, the entity. CDPR is just fucking with us and trying to do a 4th wall break
On the tarot card theory my thought was that biochip had recorded quite a bit of Jackie and V seeing them is him trying to tell V things. Its established that Jackie is well versed in the ins and outs of night city and only got tricked into the heist because his ambition blinded him to what was an obvious trap.
You did not mention that a body in front of the tower in the witcher 3 can be found and it may be Polyhistor who has world-travelled, as the vampire keep a portal between worlds in blood and wine and can be related to vampire-corps in the caves of the cut content. Where did you get this 6 fingers icon ? I have solved the mistery but i dont have this image, only the classical "meatman strikes again".
Considering Alt made soulkiller, and worked on Arasakas soulkiller under duress, and that almost no one even understands how soulkiller even works other than alt and a couple other super geniuses. Its likely she did more than make a backdoor escape route from the program. She likely has some sort of access to V's tech through the relic/Johnny. Maybe only enough to put up images.
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The tarot cards are accurate because V is in Mikoshi. We are the tech that has to place V through all the ends to find out where the chip went in the end. That is why there are multiple endings and missions to get there. Arasaka has no clue what happened to the Relic in the end. They found V's body but the Relic was gone.
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Smart guns tier list perhaps? It is mentioned in the video comparing Smart Power Tech weapons PepeHands
I like the idea that the cards stem from a little part of Jackie left on the chip. A way for him to help guide V through what's happening to them. He only had the chip in his head for a little while, sure, but Misty goes on to reveal that he was the one who picked her tarot deck, and we see in his ofrenda that he was getting into his more spiritual side. Makes it feel like your choom still has your back in some small way.
I believe Mr. Blue eye is a good guy preparing for war that is coming against AIs.. All evil AIs in cyberpunk have red eyes..
@@HSHS-r4n Do they? I mean, all the AI we "see" they all have Blue eyes. The only time they're red is when they're being used as a proxy/cell phone for someone else. So, MAYBE evil Ai taking over someone else's body would have red eyes. But so far, the only people I can think of who had red eyes. Is that one woman, Hanako (I don't know if I spelled it right). Hired to meet V at the Hotel. Unless you're talking about when they're inside of the Blackwall. I feel like all AI are Red in the BlackWall. (Spoiler) In one of the mission ends, you switch POV with Johnny, and you can see our V highlighted in Red and at first thought I assumed it was because ( HUGE SPOILER) when the Voodoo Boys sent V after Alt. THEY were Red as well. So sorry for the long novel. I just LOVE this game.
@@HSHS-r4n I doubt hes a good guy simply cause of his implied involvement in the brainwashing of jefferson peralez
@@sclarinet9088 This actually ties into a theory I've had about the whole FF:06:B5 puzzle and the blue-eyed bartender in Konpeki Plaza. His backstory changes depending on your life path, and he knows that you're lying to get into the plaza. He also talks like the **Spoiler** cube at the end of the FF puzzle, which also says, "This isn't the first time we 've met." **Spoiler**
@@sclarinet9088Your entire post is wrong but that's okay.
Alt AI never once lies about its intentions, goals, methods, or its nature. It's not Alt, its not even Alt's engram, "I use her engramattic data" "i created armies to breach mikoshi before". It's an AI that consumed Alts engram and is using that form because human brains need SOMETHING to comprehend in the net(she explains this to Johnny in his ending, saying "you see me because you wish to, your brains defense mechanism"). She even says BEFORE the raid that she plans to integrate the engrams there. Is the AI sinister? Sure, though maybe not more or less so than the proverbial corporate machine or the other AI inhabiting the old net
Great comment
@clarencewalters338 I do think the AI is Alt or the very least a part of her, I suppose this AI does somewhat care about humanity seeing how she outright told V that it's dangerous there when they 1st met and brings her back where it's more safe while merc'ing the Netwatch agents & VDB net runners albeit to protect herself adding those other human consciousness that where in Mikoshi was an ends to the means for what's to come & in Phantom Liberty Songbird said how the Matrix AI needs to continuously evolve for survival I am lead to believe that's true of all other AIs beyond the Wall now are all AIs evil? No, some yes.
@Wildcard_2281 Mr Blue Eyes needs "client data" for presumably the same reason as Alt. It's also possible that that is why his people raided Arasaka Tower, too, probably via the NightCorp tunnel from the Star ending that suspiciously goes directly beneath it. But since we, and Alt, got to Mikoshi first, he's forced to enact a plan B and go for the Crystal Palace client data instead
@MaleficMurph that would somewhat track yeah. We can't be sure what either of them ultimately wants though. All we know is their individual MO but that's really not a lot to go on either.
@MaleficMurph probably, seeing how many of the servers are in space, what's the best spot to keep the more important clients that are valuable? A palace and all Palaces are nothing more than massive fortresses with God knows what kind of securities.
I believe Mr. Blue Eyes isn't there to oppress people overtly, but to create a city that operates like a well-oiled machine, with the people of night city playing their parts; like an overseer.
Mr.Nights dream will become true.
If you don’t value free will and want to live with a hacked brain controlled by AI, or like V controlled by Johnny; an extracted AI personality program, Mr. Blue Eyes will be your savior.
This game feels like a big morality war between being human or machine. What it means to be truly free or be imprisoned by technology. Maybe that’s what the monk represents too, to be connected to nature. And humanity.
Like a benevolent dictator whos willing to do away with free will, a concept thats probably alien to it anyway, if it means following its likely mission of making night city perfect. Like an ai that interprets his directive in away that makes it a monster (i.e. Ultron interpreting "peace" as "quiet")
Like Busan, maybe?
@@Tortuga2223a I don't think so, Busan is nothing more or more likely to believe to be a Ghost City with no humans due to what happened, a virus that made it unlivable I do believe that's a cover tbh, I think what Mr.Blue Eyes wants is human/AI integration where it's nothing more a mass consciousness & everyone is just another working part where they're still themselves but not, a city without crime & working towards the betterment of the City.
About the Zen Master. Noticed how he said "A demon, never leaving"? It's a reference to the song "Never Fade away" in which *Johnny* sings: "I'm your demon, never leaving [...]" - so from the first second, before even meeting him, he knows.
Damn I never noticed that
Or maybe the Zenmaster is just a Samurai-Fan? :D
@@wgacrazy8245 Zen Master secretly jamming out to Samurai turned all the way down so his peers don't hear it is my new headcanon.
I have this little extra crackpot theory that the brain dances he shows you are night city at least 100 years ago, because night city was started in the nineties, based in the morro Bay Area irl, and before they started building they destroyed the mountains and created the badlands dumping the hills into the sea, and that last place the damn, matches fairly well with a map of Morro bay, then I searched around more, plentiful forests and hills, probably a spring or two as well (I was only able to use satellite view) and well, it matches fairly well with the brain dances! Again no other proof than looks like but meh
For a non horg monk
Hee seems to know a lot
I’ve yet to see anyone mention that the mysterious monk has cyber eyes (as seen when accepting payment) when monks are known to shun all cybernetics.
MYSTERIOUS MONK IS THE BODEGA CAT CONFIRMED!?!?!?
That's another character that has cybernetic eyes for some reason
Were they willingly installed?
If so they must be very good eyes
It could explain how he knows so much, his first words too you are close to a never fade away lyric "I'm your demon, never leaving"
He is one of the bigger reasons why I hate the franchise of Cyberpunk: cyberware. It's too ubiquitous and not enough attention is drawn to just how fantastical it is (even if just for gameplay reasons).
Heck, I'm pretty sure as I played through to completion that a kids eyes also glowed. You're telling me that all kids for their 8 or 10th birthday celebrate by having some eyeball soup? Their OWN eyeballs, because they were replaced by low grade cyberware?
How many chips does V shove into their brain? 6? 9? How about how ALL the arm replacements require your entire arm to be amputated, just to have space to fit in the gorilla/mantis/monowire/grenades? What happens to your old ones? Is cyberware so cheap because the ripperdocs sell them to Biotechnica or AllFoods to convert into scop? It's weird that Takemura complains about food when his esophagus has been removed. Just how ridiculous is it that you can magically replace your spine when SO MUCH of your body is grafted onto it?
Personal Links are weird too. Just how long is this USB, and how does it extend out of your arm with impairing your ability to grip things, or rotate your hand, or fold your arm? Does the wire run all the way up to the brain?
Then there is the whole "They can't shutdown all the internet servers, but there's scary AIs on the internet, so we can't use the internet, except we can to wire money and daemons and stuff" and WTF IS money if we find paper money AND credit shards AND people can just wire money WITHOUT a direct link and...
The game is fun, gameplay is fun, characters are great, but the worldbuilding...pure fantasy.
@@Delphineas i dont think the money thing is all that weird i mean we have credit cards, paper money, and services like venmo. its not explained in concrete detail of course but idk man suspend your disbelief a little bit and have fun.
@@Delphineas uhm that’s the point, it IS fantasy? Lol are you looking for non fiction? Are you going to try and analyze how wizards can conjure fire through their fingertips next? Wow you couldn’t be more of a buzzkill lol
He was right, the Zen Master. No one in the game does wait for you… despite knowing your condition and that you could die at any moment all of them will abandon you in your time of need, despite 2 years being so short relative to the 100% longer lifespan humans enjoy in this world
Well. All save the Lesbian chick if I recall correctly. In my sun ending, panam left my V, while I saw a video of the former staying with V in a similar scenario.
Nah, she also leaves. Now has a family in some far away city.
Panam waits for V and is willing to die for him. So not correct.
@@rhizonhaze5597not correct, in another ending V leaves with Panam until he fades out.
@@k29king1 yup Panam says something about trying to find people to help V in that ending
Both Alt and Johnny state very clearly that Alt's goal in Mikoshi is to plainly gobble up all the stored engrams simply as "morsels of code", to empower her amongst her peer AIs. Alt is not there to free anybody (besides V/Johhny). And she does not feel she is indebted to Johnny in any way, for her this is a quid pro quo between her and V. Alt clearly does not care about freeing humans or saving lives - in her transformation she has transcended the human moral categories of good and evil. Neither does she need Johnny's recollections about their time together, as she herself states that his memories bear little resemblance to the actual events. She responds to V presenting his engram not because she is fond of Johnny's memories, but because it allows her a chance to get into Mikoshi
Dont forget the hell and shit that Arasaka did to her and her code of Soulkiller from the time of her "death" to the time of her getting out of Mikoshi. How did that fuck with what Alt is that she didnt intend for herself.
@@TeresaTabitha Oh, she would certainly want revenge - if she was still human. But so far as we can tell, she no longer displays emotions of any kind. She is an AI, and the reasons she is now driven by seem to be anything but irrational desires or whims
I think this "god" character discussed in the FF06B5 part is a fourth wall reference, the player is controlling V & 'time' also when you consider multiple playthroughs & choices.
Yeah I was looking to see if anyone commented. For someone that did all the research he clearly missed that point. That's THE end of it, its a 4th wall thing kind of like Skyrim where its all in a god's head, and those that learn this either go mad from learning it or ascend, but either way its a 4th wall thing. In Cyberpunk instead of going mad from learning it, there's a mystery to solve for those that dive deep for it, and at the end you learn its a player controlling the game and the game figured it out, so to speak.
Yeah i’m pretty sure it’s just them figuring out their reality is a literal game for entities they can never understand or perceive
Zen Master: "You start to fade away..."
Me: "WE'LL NEVER FADE AWAY!"
For those who don't know, Cyberpunk is made artistically to be an allegory of "Life". Even the characters name "V" is a reference (Vie = life in French). The Tarot cards are also an allusion.
V is dying, and the characters arc is the arc we all face because we all face death. The point of the game is that to foolishly cling to life and be selfish to preserve it is.....the Devil (ending). Instead, when V focuses on helping others, the beautiful outcome is finding love and connection with others.....nothing can save you from death - you must focus on preparing for death.
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My hot take, the zen master is just what he says a zen master. We look at cyberpunk like its a world where no supernatural stuff exists and its all tech yet remember what Bartmoss confessed before when drunk, Daemons are literally that and the old net is basically a spiritual dimension. If the best Netrunner in history is right much of whats going on is supernatural with a layer of sci fi masking it.
Bartmoss confessed while drunk... what?
I think he is being mostly figurative, but also talking about personality engrams absorbed into AIs and other wild/rogue AIs as metaphorically like demons / revanants
@@gerradkp "why do you think bartmoss named them deamons? because thats what they are - rache didnt invent the net he discovered it, the net is hell and bartmoss opened the door - Netwatch has its origins in the vatican and the balckwall sings in aramaic" -Maximum Mike (voiced by the creator of cyberpunk) I don't think they're being metaphorical in my opinion, the whole game has this strong themes on occult especially phantom liberty and the blackwall.
Bear in mind that Mikoshi wasn't just for the souls of the ultra rich, it was meant to house the netrunners eliminated by Soulkiller. We also learn from Lizzy Wizzy's side quest that the engrams can be edited for loyalty and obedience. Further still is that Arasaka was specifically designing the Relic to be capable of ripping out a person's soul, and replacing it with the engram's. So while Saburo taking over Yorinobu's body was the first intended use case, Arasaka was down the path of creating literal armies of the world's best soldiers/ netrunners imprinted onto whatever random test subjects they could find, complete with 100% loyalty to Arasaka.
Alt stealing those souls means that she now has the means of creating that army. So it's unclear whether she's doing it to save or enslave. She is 100% going to have her own stake in the next AI war.
Something that often gets missed imo is the cyberpsycho out in the badlands killing for his "Loa" god, im pretty sure hes seen the cube too and its what drove him crazy.
@Hunfrid91 could be a reference to the novel "Count Zero" by William Gibson (the sequel to "Neuromancer"). It deals with the "Loa" which are essentially AI gods (or demons) that influence and make pacts with humanity to further their unknown goals.
It's a great read, I'd totally recommend it Choom!
@MaleficMurph will do!
@@MaleficMurphLoa are also a thing in real world Voodoo.
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15:30 You're trying to rationalise Alt's actions within the fictional universe, but it's clearly a fool's errand: she's defined by her narrative role more than anything else. She's a Shakespearean ghost beckoning Johnny to let go and come join her in the afterlife, and if you unleash her on Arasaka, she does what vengeful ghosts do: kills everyone who's complicit, like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Her actions are tuned for maximum dramatic effect and thematic payoff of finding peace by accepting mortality, I guarantee you that the writers never thought about her in-universe motivations beyond superficial plausibility.
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Something else I noticed about the zen master (and this is potentially before it's mentioned in the video so my apologies if I'm repeating points that you made) is that a few of his lines are directly taken out of Samurai songs. He mentions "concrete canyons and neon eyes", which is a lyric from Black Dog, and I just heard in the video "it is hard to achieve peace if there is a demon never leaving", the second half directly quoting how Johnny refers to himself in Never Fade Away as "I'm your demon, never leaving, a metal soul of rage and fear".
Homie knows so much more than he's letting on.
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Rache Bartmoss was NOT a well man. If he wasn't fully cyberpsycho when he died-but-didn't-die, his not-quite-death certainly put him over the edge. See, what they don't do a great job of explaining on screen in 2077 is that Rache lived on after his 'death'. In fact, he dictated his entire Guide To The Net to his only friend and confidant, Spder Murphy, AFTER he died. Not as an AI, Rache would never have used something like an Emergency Self-Construct, but rather in a cryogenically frozen state utilizing a special custom deck and BodyWeight life support system (Race Bartmoss' Guide To The Net pg. 5). He was able to stay 'alive' that way for at least a year but he refused to tell even Spider Murphy where his body was. He was that paranoid.
We know he had an EMP (Empathy) score of only 2 (RBGTTN pg152). He was fitted with his first set of interface plugs at age 4 and never looked back (RBGTTN pg4-5). He didn't hate capitalism because of ideology, he hated capitalism because it intruded on and corrupted what he saw as /his/ Net more than any other force in his life. He was at best a full-on sociopath (ASPD) and possibly even psychotic (and no, I'm not mis-using either of those terms). He didn't have any time or patience for non-netrunners and he'd have absolutely detested V, either for working with the VDBs or for Netwatch. Though, if V had worked with Netwatch Rache would have more than contempt for her.
Point is, there's NO way he was the monk.
What we meet beyond the blackwall is an AI wearing Alt's "skin". Canonically, Spider Murphy fragmented Alt's consciousness and scattered it across the net in the hopes that one day she would be able to reconstitute herself. It seems like some fragments got absorbed into various AIs.
I have never heard of her being split up after dying.
Most of these seem to be simple 4th-wall breaking Easter-eggs, that as a game dev, I would write into a game to joke about "Simulation theory". The Mr. Blue Eyes mystery/Night Corp conspiracy feels like the actual in-game conspiracy that was deliberate, while everything else is just meta-gaming.
Yeah, FF06B5's final bits you can read makes it look like a fourth wall break, with the guy having seen the player behind the screen
@@vxpdx Exactly
He broke the 4th wall and saw the player. Also he somehow stumbled on whatever allows Ciri to dimension hop and pretty conclusively she's been to the Cyberpunk universe...
God I love these cyberpunk videos. I'll have a longer reply with deep nerdery about what you said, but you never need to apologize for the real world getting in the way of an upload schedule. You provide so much that the entry level is free. No one here is owed more time than you have and have an interest in giving. Thanks so much Sam.
16:54 his flashbacks have to change somepart of reality as when you go to meet kerry the last thing Johnny said to kerry can change depending on what you pick and kerry would obviously remember the last thing Johnny said and if Johnny remember it differently kerry would definitely say something about it. it definitely changes some things, but i do agree that most things that he sees didn't happen.
The four meditation BDs are the ones I most wish I could replay.
Yeah... I literally closed my eyes and started takin deep breaths like it was an actual guided meditation
Theres a Lizzie's Braindance mod on the nexus store that includes the meditation BD's
There is one very easy solution to all of these mysteries; V is an engram in MIkoshi during the entire game.
V was a thief that ended up in a situation they were never truly equipped to handle, and never stood a chance to resist the Arasaka goons that came for them afterwards. Captured, relieved of the Chip and stuffed into Mikoshi to be properly interrogated, the soulkilled V started thinking about woulda-coulda-shoulda situations just like Johnny Silverhand had, thinking of ways they would have done things differently and making themselves out to be ever more fantastically brilliant in every retelling, (culminating in the "Lore accurate V" over the top gameplay videos from the likes of Benjamin Winters), just as how Johnny retold his story to turn himself far more important and capable than he was in reality, taking over the roles of Shaitan, Spider Murphy and Morgan Blackhand in the Arasaka assault for example.
However various parts of Mikoshi keeps reminding V that they are in a simulation, be that the Zen Master trying to recenter your mind, the strange puzzle, "Relic malfunctions" mysteriously happening just before V is about to do something that truly breaks from reality like beating up Oda, or the fact that Victor Vector has been watching a rerun of a boxing match the entire game, where the loser kept going up against a much stronger opponent with a predictable outcome and Victor always wondering where they did wrong, and what they could have done different...
But that's just a theory. A game theory! Thanks for reading.
Dig it.
FF:06:B5
Wait, what. Cyberpunk 2077 has become my favourite video game of all time (and I was born in the '70s, so that means it's even beating many nostalgia links I have to older great games), but I knew nothing at all about this until this very video. How hidden must this FF:06:B5 be, that I've never found or heard about it until now? I love this game so much. It's like there's no end to it. I keep learning new Easter Eggs, hidden stuff, alternative dialogues that are hard to find, and more. Thank you for covering these things so excellently!
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Waitwaitwait... He's directly using Johnny's own past words here. A "demon never leaving"? That's Johnny! I just realised now watching this, it's a direct reference to Never Fade Away. To quote Never Fade Away (and by extension, Johnny):
"I am your demon, never leaving,
A metal soul of rage and fear"
This just adds more mystery to the Zen Master.
My theory is the mediation does a brain/memory scan just like the system in clouds that scans your brain and finds your preference
Sam, I'd love to see a video of you doing a "Perfect Game". A playthrough with all the decisions you believe to be the best choice throughout the entire game. Sort of almost as if to do a compilation of all the ranking videos you've done over these years that I've been following you.
The window he looked through watching someone watch him on a screen i believe was him seeing Us, the player, and he realized he was just a NPC in a game
Then he left the Cyberpunk world to become a garlic farmer?
When you take an ancestry DNA test you are signing over your genetic code and sequence to the Corp who did the test. The Terms and Conditions you didn’t read definitely say as much.
@joshuapatrick682 the book "Next" by Michael Crichton (the dude who wrote Jurassic Park) is roughly about that; use should check it out, it's really good
Corps could do worse than making a clone of me without my knowledge, so i dont think its that bad.
Dude, the whole FF06B5 is a nod to the 4th wall breaking in games. It said as much when he saw a person looking at him through a monitor "aka: you the gamer" the screen is the game you are playing and somehow a few in the game became aware of this, though they haven't really figured it out yet. You "the gamer" are playing the role as the entity in control, the end.
indeed! only a few comments so far have said this, I'm glad Im not the only one
Dog shit easter egg then.
In the ttrpg of Cyberpunk, it was talked about Militech research into AI & putting them into human hosts, i find it suspicious that Hallmen was interested in our development & how the NUSA knew about the Hiest, what was stopping them from keeping an eye on us just like how Mr.Blue Eyes was what if we were just little experiment to see if it would truly work. Two minds is a lot of processing power seeing how V can take on Legions of military & gangs without flatlining(this is of course ignoring gameplay and looking at it as irl)
The "No Coincidence" book also has a lot to do with Militech Human-AI hybrids; it's a good read too, I'd 100% recommend it
@MaleficMurph True, I only know very little from that, but with some of the real-life conspiracies I know "digitize human consciousness" being one of them I can probably take a guess on what it'll say, but getting somewhat back on track V & Johnny really do make a perfect case study where the only drawback is them pretty much non-compatible technology wise where the chip itself is attacking the host, one can imagine what kind of weapon if the AI/Ingram & the person would be.
@Wildcard_2281 V & Johnny have more of a parasitic relationship than a symbiotic one essentially, yes
I'd posit that the answer for FF06B5 is that Night City is in a universe where Simulation Theory is the literal truth. It's an answer both incredibly meta and highly appropriate to the genre.
32:26 Lilith is not mentioned or named in the Bible. There are some Jewish writings. Some Midrashic texts and the Alphabet of Ben Sira name her as Adam’s wife while Gilgamesh and The Zohar name her as a creature or demon with no ties to Adam. She is only popular cause she is used by feminists as a symbol of resistance to the patriarchy.
Lilith or "Lilith" has been known by many names.....and she isn't against men. I won't say why or how I know this....other than I am what is known as a "protector"....
Very few out there will truly understand what that means.
I made a deal with her when I was 10 yoa. She was the only one that answered. Not your God, his son, only her ....and even your God recognizes other gods. He's just a narcissistic that expects his to worship him alone.
The others don't expect worship they appreciate your service but it's your choice to come and go (in 99 percent of the cases).....I cannot my deal is ironclad. I'll tell you this she delivered and as a result I protect that which is most important.....at the cost of my life if need be.....
She isn't good, nor so she evil....like us she has her own personality.....it's fair to say she has embraced darkness but she has light all her own as well ....
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"Lilit" autocorrect got me.... again...
If Bartmoss is still alive, its because he's a much more malevolent human AI ,like Alt, biding his time until hes set loose from whatever corner of the blackwall hes skulking around.
Rache is very much dead. I am confident of that. And if his meat body was disconnected from the Net, then he died alone.
The ff06b5 section made me reflect on my approach to the game which is basically 'shoot, chop, strangle and fry stuff for fun'.... Think I missed the big picture 😂
19:59 "once I understood the weakness of flesh "
Your videos are my favourite Cyberpunk 2077 content out there, thank you!
The Alt you encounter in Cyberpunk 2077 is not the actual consciousness of Alt Cunningham but an imperfect copy called Alt2, a digital clone that she made and freed to run around in the net. The real Alt funneled money into failed Biotechnica cloning projects and managed to get a clone of her old body made and have her actual mind transferred to it. Later on Edgerunners would transport the corpse of Johnny Silverhand, kept frozen after his death in Arasaka Tower to the new Alt, who likely brought Johnny back the same way. The both of them are hiding out somewhere in 2077. The Johnny on the Relic chip was also created by Alt and somehow acquired by Adam Smasher and Arasaka. You can put the pieces together with the Adventure: Black Dog in Cyberpunk RED, and Cybergeneration, which while it deviates from the actual direction of the Cyberpunk story, I think certain elements such as Alt1 and Alt 2 and Johnny2.
the ZenMaster leaving stuff behind (or be seen by 1 other person, while others seem to ignore him) does not mean that he's real/physical.
"he" could've just used a delivery service or a proxy to drop that stuff off while you were zoned out...
Its so good to see your video on Cyberpunk again! :)
I fully expect the FF06B5 "Mystery" to culminate in a future patch with the conspiracy-yelling guy by Vick's to change his lines from "Arasaka are vampires" to "We're living in a video game". Like the WHOLE THING is a fantastically convoluted way of leading to the obvious: that you're playing a game.
11:30 you mentioned that perhaps a black wall AI could cause the tarot to appear, after phantom liberty was introduced, there are lines of dialogue suggesting that a blackwall AI did get onto the relic somehow and made itself at home hiding on the chip in V's head, but basically suggesting that since the whole issue is that Johnny needs removed and that you're already dying, it's not exactly a problem that matters in the short term, however it's not clear when the AI got onto the chip, there are many opportunities in the story for that to have happened, but the problem is I can't see any of those opportunities being before your first encounter of the blackwall when you meet alt and the tarot quest triggers before that point, it's unlikely a rogue blackwall AI got onto Arasakas prize possession before it got slotted into V's head
I would like to point out that Alt absorbs the engrams she "frees" from their prison in Mikoshi. The TTRPG books talk about personality based AIs roaming, the engrams of netrunners pulled from their bodies, but Alt in Cyberpunk 2077 absorbs them. Adding hundreds? Thousands? Hundred of thousands? All added to her knowledge and pushing her further from who she started as.
Like the Borg queen in the Star Trek ‘verse.
The Zen Master controls the weather. That’s his power. Notice the weather aligns with the element of each meditation. After you finish all four the weather goes back to normal. Otherwise another trigger I don’t know will give normal weather again. At the end he is simply becoming “one with nature” or in other words he reaches “enlightenment” and becomes potentially a neo-Buddha.
Like many have said, FF06B5 is just a 4th wall breaking easter egg. The instant that Witcher 3 entered the picture made it non canon to the Cyberpunk Universe.
Johnny is the one who killed her body in his memory. You never unplug a runner from the net while they are still running it.
Sam! I'm always excited for your video uploads! Ggs!
About the taro cards. I always have to think of how dejavus/ "ive dreamed of that!" moments work in the brain. As in, what you actually dreamed of/remember is only resembling the current moment so far, that your brain is reminded of it. but if it reminds your brain of a dream youve recently had, it changes your memories of that dream, making it so your brain can comfortably life with the assumtion of "i am right. i knew thus" simply by changing your recollection once it has the answere to WHAT it know claims it knew all along. What i mean is:
V might be seeing things he can't explain to himself. Maybe the blurry, unspezificness of it reminds him of mistys spiritual things. So, not knowing where else to go with this, he goes to her. She then, from her spiritual perspective and from what V told her of what hes seen concludes that it could be taro carts. From that moment on, Vs brain will process these things through the expectation that they are in fact taro cards. Still it could be that, what he actually sees out there isnt dientical or even very reminicent of the actual cards. But that how he remembers it, how he describs it to misty to put a name and definition onto it and therefor give him some sense of order, can be close enough for misty to pin each of the things V sees to a spezific card. the reason we see them so clearly as spezific cards then would be because, as with dejavus, his brain changes the memory of what misty had lables it as, so it can fabricate a continued and ordered string of events. Idk, probably could have explained it better, but my guess is relic induced psycotic symptoms + gut feeling or such + the brains need to always be right even if it needs to change perception or memory for that = V sees cards that only he sees, that also predict the furute.
At the memorial place where a bunch of Easter eggs for edge runners one of the plaques describes a man as the creator of worlds.
yeah Syd Mead designed a bunch of Iconic stuff for classics like Blade Runner, Tron, Aliens and Star Trek.
Hearing the full FF06B5 evidence explained like this, it strikes me as being about breaking the fourth wall. Meaning, the characters catching a glimpse of their own existence as fictional characters in a simulated world, and peer out of that existence to find themselves being observed by us, the Player
I once read a theory that Night City is a simulation, like The Matrix, built by the AIs, except in this case because they want to understand humans. The monk could be someone from outside the simulation, helping V by giving them more time (perhaps because V's unique situation provides a lot of interesting data), and being able to do so harmlessly because they're a "higher power" of a sort over the simulation, whereas Songbird manipulating the Relic is harmful because she lives inside the simulation and therefore doesn't have control over that measure of power (she has to play by the rules of the simulation). The tarot cards could predict the future because the simulation had been run repeatedly, so those running the simulation had a rough idea of the outcome of various choices (even if they didn't know every little detail), and were guiding V to learn more about how having knowledge would affect their decisions. The Blackwall still exists to keep wild AIs out, to protect the simulation itself from hostile AI (perhaps some want to harvest all the data there in the same way a human might rob a bank, maybe some don't want the simulation to exist and hope to destroy it, and maybe some are fooled by it outright and hope to join it). Alt could be part of the simulation itself rather than an AI from outside it, patched in by those running the simulation to get more useful data out of V's situation by giving them options. Alt thus wouldn't be able to outright fix V, because she'd be bound by the rules of the simulation (like Songbird). FF06B5 be an attempt by the simulation's masters to understand how humans react to mysterious and unknowable things beyond their comprehension, with the clues buried so only those interested in such things would actually go looking. Mr. Blue Eyes could be the one in charge of the simulation (it makes sense that a whole team of AIs might be needed to make the simulation, since simulating a reality to that level is incredibly complex), abusing his authority to tamper with the simulation in much the same way a human executive might tamper with a creative project.
Naturally the theory doesn't fit everything perfectly, but it's interesting to think about and very meta, considering Night City is sort of a simulation (it is inside a game, after all).
Reminds me of the reason why John Lennon wrote the Walrus. The lyrics were intentionally gibberish just to mess with the people over analysing their songs.
I really do hope we get some clues or just the truth of what happend to Morgan Blackhand
Aw that garden meditation scene was one of my favorite places in the game. It was way too short.
I can't help but feel bad for Alt. Seeing the flash backs and hearing you talk about how she wants to remember what it's like to be human made me tear up a bit. It's tragic what Arasaka did to her.
Arasaka didn't do anything to her according to Johnny's false memories she was still net running on her way back to her body when Johnny pulled the plug he literally killed her
Very happy you’re still in orbit around Night City. Never Fade Away.
wow more secret videos from you on 2077! Love it! Hope life is going well for you, love your videos.
The Sam the Man is back with some Cyberpunk videos and so am I.
Plot twist: Zen master is Gaunter O'Dimm of cyberpunk
Been loving your videos man, binged a fair few on cyberpunk. You've helped me understand certain things about the lore i wouldnt otherwise figure out for myself.
Just finished my first playthrough of the base game, did all gigs, hustles and side jobs before finishing. It took me about 100 hours with exploration between each mission. Left out phantom liberty because i kept a 2 saves at certain points so i can go back and get different endings.
I will mention 2 major disappointments.
1 - The game is noticeably unfinished (even in this version) due to barron areas that look like they definitely were going to be used for something.
2 - The 3 percentages on the menu not meaning anything, not implemented fully. Which was misleading when i was trying to go for the solo assault on Arasaka, its just one convo that you have to get right.
Apart from that i loved the writing, world building, the leveling up system and cybernetics. Will return to finish the DLC after a break. 100 hours over a couple of weeks burnt me out a bit. 😂
Polyhistor is going to turn up in some hut in TW4, isn't he? Also: them building out on that code in the way they have done has been a lot of fun and a very sweet gift to those who want to explore their worlds to that level.
I'd like to pose my own comment on the cards. I like the idea they are implanted by Jackie. But as to your comment about V's free will... I don't think it entirely disqualifies it if it is AI predicting V's path, just that the AI know the likely paths V/Johnny would take. And you have to remember... By the end of the game V is eroded more into Johnny.
Perhaps if they had acted earlier any number of the other cards/other options could have happened. But as time went on and V became more V/Johnny hybrid and closer to just Johnny... The options narrow down til it's only the ones left. Even if V removes all their tech, Johnny still had an impact on them and Jackie too.
As to why the cards? Why the warning? This goes into my theory on the rogue AIs that I don't think people noticed. We had Lilith who was able to negotiate with humans. We have current AIs that are not considered rogue still being invented. We have human AIs like Alt or Johnny who are considered to be AI even if they had human components at their core... Just almost flanderdized by the process of becoming data. So it's possibly Johnny's influence or Alt's influence or another AI's influence that is nicer... Or...
Who is to say V's subconscious is not behaving like an AI? They're already kind of a hybrid. What stops that from being the possibility and they have just spent the whole game themselves trying to calculate their options with added data from Johnny with the skin of the tarot cards? V might be more of a visual learner and the cards are a way to express complex thoughts simply for themselves.
There are two other times Johnny feels that type of pain you mentioned in the first mystery, When V and Panam take down the power grid and when V turns the power on to a roof top antenna to trace the twins in their rental car. lol
i feel like project orion is going to start off with the space heist and mr blue eyes is going to give us some type of living chance
@KINGxTWIXX make the opening mission be the heist, but at the end reveal it to have just been a Braindance of the event (like the opening of Edgerunners)
I think it is unlikely we will see anything other than references to V in Orion. By the end of 2077 V is essentially a superhero. How could they go about nerfing the character? It is more likely that we will hear multiple rumors about what happened to V, but nobody knows for sure. That way none (or all) of the endings of 2077 are canon.
“Some say V is beyond the blackwall, some say V was overwritten by Johnny, some say V became a supermerc, some say V is running with the Aldecados, some say V was a NUSA agent, some say Arasaka used V’s body as a host for Saburo’s engram, and some say V had all cyberware removed and just faded into Night City.”
I just wish I knew what drink was named after V at the Afterlife, so I could order one in Orion. Provided Orion is set in Night City.
@Simple_But_Expensive I think that a little bit of every ending can be canon regardless of V's involvement.
The Aldecaldos will always leave Night City. Arasaka Tower will always get raided by NightCorp. Saburo Arasaka will always return in some form. Etc.
OMG IS THIS MY CHRISTMAS PRESENT? SAAAM😍😍😍😍😍
You make me sooo happy everytime i hear your voice talking about Cyberpunk 2077💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
The Adeptus Mechanicus quote reminds me of the video where someone (Allen Pan, maybe?) made legs for a snake; someone cut those together and it was *chef's kiss*
Lol I've seen that video. Honestly I just love that whole Adeptus Mechanicus monologue and it's a great meme
man i love how the never fade away instrumental plays in the background
I see new Sam Bram video, I press Play and press Like! Thank you choom!
Something I never understood about cyberpunk is on what servers those ai beyond the blackwall run. If the datakrash nuked the internet servers would become isolated computers with simpel kill switches, removing the threat of any ai
Shhh logic ruins ttrpg's
Fuck yeah choom! Excited to see this! Let’s go…..!!!
The Return of the King
The Mr. Blue Eyes bodies being physical cases for Morgan Blackhand's consciousness definitely fascinates me. It would also be a nice tie-in to the TTRPG.
after i saw the update i’ve just been checking the page waiting for you to post 😂
Never stop making these bro ❤
Zen Master is a proxy of Bartmoss. Bartmoss is likely an AI, similar to Alt. Bartmoss does text you seemingly at random through the game, but I suspect that he has sensed your duality of minds and rcognizes the problem. Given that the monk does use tech, and seemingly has eye implants, I suspect that you were lead to each other, but you aren't seeing each other. The Zen Master believes he is helping someone facing a difficult decision and is in two minds about it. You are seeking a way to survive Johnny's incursion.
Tarot is Cyberpunk's Astrology proxy. Vagueries that can be contextually shifted to more certain meanings. As for locations, this Arasaka tech, made with Arasaka resources. AIs do exist, so this is likely a matter of multiple factors converging to points of probable importance.
Alt is a Natural NetRunner. Others are hobbyists or adventurers, but in the Net is where Alt truly feels free and complete. That is why she made the theorems behind SoulKiller. But her time beyong the Blackwall has shown her that it can be dangerous for those unprepared. Alt is, the dozens of financial cowards are not. When she discovers the engram of Silverhand, she recognizes a man who will go to any lengths to accomplish his goals. An ally she sorely needs. And when she sees V, there is another potential ally, but she acknowledges Free Will. She will help you, she gives you options. As for why she goes nuclear on Arasaka... They did kidnap her off the street, force her to build SoulKiller. And she recognizes the evils the Coroporation is capable of. She doesn't want Mikoshi for its engrams, she wants to free those souls into the Net. They will go insane and be devoured by more feral AIs. But they literally sold their soul to a Devil...
FF 06 B5... A mishmash of conspiracy theory, religion and philosophy.
Mister Blue Eyes. An AI that is trying to control humanity, using Night Corp as his hands.
I hope the next cyberpunk game touches more conspiracy type missions, side quests, and secrets. They managed to create some great stuff with blackwall, these theories, and the engrams.
Its mysterious, engaging, and genuinely something i want to see more off.
The developers of this game are just phenomenal,u can tell how hard they worked on this game. I really can’t wait for cyberpunk 2 to come out .
How dare you bring this out at the start of my work day!!!! Lol
One thing I realized with Johnny's ending and V's panam ending is V will just smack Alt datashard right into the slot and it's crooked like he genuinely must dislike or hate Alt but with Johnny he holds her and gentle positions his hand and even grabs the hand with his other to make sure he doesn't damage the shard.
Sam! I just played through phantom liberty again. I helped Songbird and went to the spaceport. I followed a Japanese traveler who had blue eyes after he walked up to me, said nothing, and then turned to walk away.. He was scanned as “suspicious traveler”. I followed him from a distance. He led me into a bathroom. There was an open vent and I climbed up.
If the "Johnny is an Unreliable Narrator" theory is to be believed, it most likely wouldn't have been Johnny, who was the one to Unplug Alt. More likely, it would've been MBH and 'Saka is fucking with his memories and if she gleans those from Him/V's memories they would absolutely believe that shit to be true choom!
Ok TWO important things you kind of missed Mr Bram :
1_An important fact to consider is that V has no previous knowledge of the Taro cards. I thinks it rules out some theories.
2_Alt says to V that Johnny's memories "bear no resemblance to the truth" or something close to that when V says her death wasn't his fault / was an accident, so she seems to remember quite a bit imo
I personally enjoy the idea that the tarot cards is a mix between an AI from beyond the black wall and Jackie’s faint memories. The AI isn’t necessarily evil, it sees what we see and memories from Jackie. It knows us from Jackie so it works to faintly guide us even if the guiding isn’t clear and more up to what we take from its tarot cards
In regards to the second unsolved mystery with the tarot, the way I see it is that Jackie is subconsciously in V's head all while Johnny is consciously there.
Also, for a short while there was a small theory going around that Mr. Blue Eyes is secretly Richard Night.
This idea of cyberspace being hell/(heaven) and AIs being demons/(angels) trying to get to the "real world" is awesome. Possibly even more than the concepts of life/death/identity/immortality from the first game.
Mr. Blue Eyes initiated the heist on the Crystal Palace to steal client data, but.... why?
I don't think the Crystal Place was his original target, but rather Mikoshi was. That's why NightCorp was conveniently digging a tunnel under Arasaka Tower (the same one the Aldecaldos use in the Star ending); to steal the "client data" or rather the engram data to be more specific. Because V gets there first and let's Alt in (an AI that seems to be after the same thing as him), he has to switch to Plan B and heist the Crystal Palace.
It's also interesting to note that Arasaka had intel pertaining to the Crystal Palace's security (that's how Mr. Blue Eyes knows how to get V in during the Sun ending), possibly meaning that the "client data" there also has something to do with them (like a Mikoshi backup perhaps).
That is an interesting theory...A GAME THEORY!!!!!
@timmonsgraphixsartstudio I have a bunch of them.
Like Sandra Dorsett being the one to tip off River Ward about the assassination attempt on Mayor Rhyne. Horvath, the assassin, was captured by MaxTac (or at least the NCPD) earlier that day before being mysteriously "lost" during transit. If the theory about NightCorp being behind the assassination is true, then this ties MaxTac directly to their schemes. If Sandra is investigating NightCorp, then no doubt she's looking into MaxTac, too, which explains why she agrees to help you hack their database in Phantom Liberty
@MaleficMurph sounds legit, I'm running with it...
You the man Sam. 🤙🏻
Another mystery to me is what happened to the Cynosure facility. Inside it's revealed through shards that the Cynosure team had captured three AI's before the project's collapse. Kurt Hansen secured one, and in order to access its neural matrix had to mimic the facility's infrastructure to get through its capsule. Depending on if you choose the options to go to the facility, you can enter the room where the capsule was taken (the same one with the Militech Canto schematics). Inside you'll only see one other capsule. Presumably, the second was used to activate the Cynosure mech. However, after the entire sequence the third still remains there, untouched. After the event you can see Militech section off the breach into the Cynosure facility, so it's likely they get to reclaim it. Still, it's unclear what they intend to do with it. Especially with it being possible (through gig choices) that Netwatch could be tipped off that Militech has been working on piercing the Blackwall.
FF06B5 is definitely a weird mystery, i remember in certain places lights in the world such as street lamps, traffic lights and even car headlights turned a weird purple colour, although im not sure if it is the magenta purple colour or if its just a coincidental similar purple colour due to bugs from updates, i mean theres even a part of the game where Panam's car breaks down and you can check her out while she checks out her car under her car hood and, boom, that car even has a purple headlight LED which is normally white, mystery goes even deeper (if it isn't a bug)
The commitment to making the same videos over and over is impressive ngl.
The Net being Hell and the evil AIs being literal demons sounds really really cool.
The FF06B5 seems like the NPC's of Night City becoming concious of us as the player, the watcher, the entity. CDPR is just fucking with us and trying to do a 4th wall break
On the tarot card theory my thought was that biochip had recorded quite a bit of Jackie and V seeing them is him trying to tell V things. Its established that Jackie is well versed in the ins and outs of night city and only got tricked into the heist because his ambition blinded him to what was an obvious trap.
To split into two and not remember yourself.. and Gurdief appears in cyberpunk.. the devs are on another level.
New cp77 lore? LETS GOOOOOOOO
Ffs Sam! Now I gotta start a whole new playthrough because you reminded me I haven't played in a month 🤣 top vid as always!!!
You did not mention that a body in front of the tower in the witcher 3 can be found and it may be Polyhistor who has world-travelled, as the vampire keep a portal between worlds in blood and wine and can be related to vampire-corps in the caves of the cut content. Where did you get this 6 fingers icon ? I have solved the mistery but i dont have this image, only the classical "meatman strikes again".
Considering Alt made soulkiller, and worked on Arasakas soulkiller under duress, and that almost no one even understands how soulkiller even works other than alt and a couple other super geniuses. Its likely she did more than make a backdoor escape route from the program. She likely has some sort of access to V's tech through the relic/Johnny. Maybe only enough to put up images.