High relic rating is not actually required to get the "Don't Fear The Reaper" ending. To get the ending, you just have to pick specific dialogue options at the oil field.
What an absolutely nonsense requirement. Should've been based solely on relationship to Johnny instead of a single side mission. Good thing it's treated like a secret ending so I can forgive it.
Referring to Yorinobu is a hero: Once he graduated from highschool he was informed of all the dirty secretes of Arasaka. is is speculated that one of these secretes was the idea of his BODY being used as a vessel for his father Saburo. this is supported by his reaction during their meeting in konpeki plaza: "Our future? OUR?" As mentioned my Jackie during "The Heist" in their hotel room, Yorinobu went off an formed a gang called the Steel Dragons in japan. and in the lore he primarily fought against and rebelled against Arasaka, which, at the time due to his actions of rebellion, was disowned from. This all changed once the AHQ Bombing happened in 2023, he saw that even if you drop a nuke on arasaka they'll just brush it off in a few years time and keep going like it was nothing. so instead of continuing what he saw as a futile effort to try to take arasaka down from the outside, he got back into the graces of his family through the death of his brother (shared grief and all that) and began to dismantel it slowly and carefully from within, forming his own faction as well. We as the players are tricked and fooled to see through the lens of V and to take there persepective at face Value, when in reality Yorinobu is a rebel, playing the longest con you could imagine
This all makes so much sense, I remember reading a shard in game referencing that at Yorinobu’s 18th birthday he was called into saburos office and told of something that made him, a few hours later, leave and vanish. In the shard it was never revealed what he said, but this makes total sense! Also, if you wouldn’t mind I would love to know how you figured this out! Or where you heard it from
@@cirtexquake3370 he is a hidden hero, he knows exactly what is going on and his fathers plans to live forever by taking over bodies of close family members, it’s a shame we can’t side with yorinobu to end his fathers madness.
Also - Jackie in his final moments says "Misty knew, she always knew' - seems to make no sense at the beginning but when u look deeper it makes so much sense and it is so sad, omg so much foreshadowing!
Ok this is a goated iceberg video, Usually the problem I have with a lot of iceberg videos is they tend to not be as obscure at the bottom rungs and cover things that have been talk to death at the top video. Love how you already were getting into the lowkey obscure parts at the start
With the whole Adam Smasher thing, I am partial to him detecting V and Jackie through the walls. From what I remember it is stated somewhere that he does have the implant that allows him to do such a thing. There could be a lot of reasons or explanations as to why he did not, I personally think it plays into the arrogance of his character. Jackie and V were low-level mercs that had a very high likelihood of just dying to Arasaka security without him even needing to do anything. That might be the reason he let them escape because we know that Adam could have caught up to or just outright stopped the car physically with his bare hands. This came back to bite him as V got his revenge in the end, well, a majority of the time he did.
i think the entire job was a setup for the mercs to get blamed for killing saburo. im not sure they were ever supposed to successfully recover the relic, and V getting away is the anomaly. smasher DOES try to kill them immediately after he's cleared for it. johnny even being on the relic in the first place is sort of a prank on saburo on yorinobu's behalf. he wants to use the chip to give himself immortality so instead yori brings his ancient enemy back to life.
@@mattb6616 Wasn’t the heist set up in part by the voodoo boys tho? like they wanted the relic because johnny was on it, and they planned to use him to contact Alt. Dex was part of a huge gig in Pacifica that went to shit fast and forced him into exile for a couple years, and i suspect that he was only able to come back because the voodoo boys wanted him to do the heist in exchange for him returning to night city and regaining his position as a respected fixer, and they knew it was practically a suicide mission with little chance of succeeding so they used a disgraced, disposable fixer that isn’t all that important. it explains why he picked jackie and v, two low level mercs at the time, and his connection to evelyn who was only supposed to be an informant for the voodoo boys, and the voodoo boys’ technological expertise could be why dex knew what the flathead was and went to buy it off maelstrom. And Yorinobu’s murder of Saburo felt more like a spontaneous instance of hotblooded murder and not premeditated murder, because if he did plan all this out, why not actually properly kill him to make it look more like V and Jackie did it? Yorinobu says Saburo was poisoned despite it being glaringly obvious that Saburo was strangled, something that Takemura definitely picked up on but couldn’t question him about it due to his position. I think Saburo still would’ve been killed that night whether or not Jackie and V were there, because Yorinobu obviously has the power to just pass of an obvious strangulation as a poisoning, so he wouldn’t need to do all this with the heist to take out Saburo and could just fabricate evidence of an assassin taking him out. It’s more plausible that Jackie and V were just there at the wrong place and time
In the tabletop game books it states Smasher never takes a job unless civilian casualties and collateral damage are acceptable. “All the same meat to me, None leave the slaughterhouse.” If Smasher could see you through the wall/tv, He would have tore V and Jackie out head first
It's a bug. Boss enemies always see you and you can't hide from them. Don't know why people always assume everything is lore related. Especially in Cyberpunk lmao
There is also a novel, not about V, where the audiobook is actually voiced by female V. It’s really good, both in terms of a audiobook and just reading it alone physically.
@@TrueAnswers7Is a fun read. Have read that. Another good comic book, I have, that wasn't mentioned is Kickdown. The main character is a driver, looking for someone...🤓
For don't fear the reaper honestly I really wish as a reward for doing it you got Johnny's engram arm as a cosmetic since you used to be able to get as a cosmetic in 1.0
Watched the whole video, good work on this bro. I've really been trying to get into the expanded lore of this franchise and it's been a headache considering all the shards u gotta stop and look at. But I appreciate you for spending the man hours to put together something like this, it really helped out.
Just in case it’s not in this iceberg: Quick hacks and other usable items in backpacks had custom descriptions. The quick hacks were the funniest- the unalive-hack one said: “Suicide note not included” Trying for the life of me to get back to the earliest release of cyberpunk so I can see it again :(
49:30 you can find one of those art shipments in game! and later on the picture will stay at Vs house in megabuilding as a nice little reminder of this mission :)
Referring to Adam Smasher Detection. Many have theorized that Adam Smasher intentionally did this as a method to move up the corpo ladder. with V and Jackie there, if they killed Saburo, Takemuro would have failed his job and Adam Smasher would be promoted. and this is actually sort of what happens.
when this game came out i felt like i was the only one defending it. even with all the bugs and glitches and missing content this game was a BLAST to play i loved every second
heres another one. i played through it on ps4 pro at launch and had a blast. its an rpg right, so i didnt need 120 fps to have a great time. i never felt ripped off or anything like that. when the game was over i was sad, and that doesnt happen often.
RE: The Neural Matrix - Songbird would absolutely lie to V about it working more than once - she specifically does and admits to it if you betray Reid.
That thing about ALT. I think the Explosions that rocked the building is what disconnected ALT’s body from the NET. The only thing Johnny did was think she was dead already, instead of Jacking her back in. What we see happen a lot of times in 2077 is how Johnny (The Construct) Remebers.
I think Adam Smasher may have known V and Jackie were there. He is unwavering in his loyalty, but during the Parade mission he also doubts and disregards Oda’s assessments of threats happening as V dispatches snipers and guards all around them. He truly has no care for any life, even his employers. He needed to be told and encouraged likely by payment to incite action.
I think it makes more sense he didn’t call them out because he knew Yorinobu wanted to kill his dad and the intruders could be used as fall guys. If he broke their cover before Saburo Arasaka was dead that would be pointless
Regarding Smasher and Michiko situation, Adam at the time was using Gemini class full body conversion kit, which is infiltrator-type cyberbody that outwardly looks like normal human and comes equipped with Mr. Studd augment for male model.
Regarding the Delta V boots: Delta-v is a term from spacecraft flight mechanics, describing a change in velocity. I suspect that it's the origin of the "delta" slang in canon.
I don't think songbird ever actually tells anyone the truth about anything unless it is literally impossible to continue the lie she had covering said truth. It's the one genuine complaint I have with her character; since it depends on you sympathizing with her when all she does is lie not just to everyone else, but also to you.
I think Mr Blue Eyes is just a proxy for a Rogue AI. Maybe it's just a walking corpse being controlled by an AI or a regular dude that is constantly being told what to do and say by an AI. Maybe Morgan Blackhand was captured years before 2077 and his remains are being used by this AI, but I feel like that would just waste the character.
I think the Blue Eyes are A.I. and human consciousness in some combination. Engrams of Ghosts put into brain dead clones or Full Body Conversion cybernetics
Mr blue eyes could be the body alt uses. The program that let's Nite watch control and manipulate others. We did get her ex out of arasaka. Johnny even bets alt he can get v to willing hand over the body.
Love the video but I'm surprised you didn't include the vampire theory and existance of them in a cave network under Night City considering there's some shards regarding them aswell as Garry the Prophet bringing them up also the vampire implant existing in universe
That would've been a good inclusion. There were a few things like that that I wish I could've included but didn't want to stray too far from thrifty's iceberg, maybe I should start putting together my own with all these in mind
@MulgarLive I understand what you mean. judt thought I'd bring it up, no hate or anything it's just a little cool fact that you can miss if you aren't big into the lore
Here’s my take on Adam smasher seeing us, it is obvious he can he is hired by yorinobu not his father and he definitely knew he would kill his father Adam can literally use Jackie and V as fall guys for saburos death which literally ends up happening side note I miss the old cyberware like threat detection it was so good with tech weapons
Awesome video! It's crazy how much of a following this game has built despite the initial release. Let's you live out the cyberpunk fantasy you've always dreamed of!
FF:06:B5 could be about the player watching him and he broke out of the Matrix and did what's called "Zero-Suming" where having stared upon the essence of reality, he simply ceased to exist. In the end, Polyhistor found us, watching him, and he was watching us watching him. This is fairly evident in his data entries.
How I see the "Smasher knows where V and Jackie are hiding" is like, when Yorinobu and Smasher leaves the room after the murder Smasher is like "those were some weak mercs u hired to kill Saburo" and Yorinobu is like "what mercenaries?" Then proceeds to ram Delamain on the exit.
1:04:27 My personal headcanon for why Adam Smasher looks directly at you and even show up on threat detection is that if Adam were to try to go and kill V and Jackie, it would have interfered with the plan of killing Saburo. An additional side note I see nobody point out is that Adam Smasher was hired by Yorinobu NOT Saburo so whatever happens to Saburo Adam doesn't really care
19:25 I believe this is actually referencing the fact that Kerry replicates this interaction with a fan during a performance if you sit in the crowd for a moment and watch during one of his missions
FFB605 Is a missing texture with color assigned but no model present. Before the hype, the texture was a 2 dimensional object, which looked similar to other terrain objects missing around night city during the launch of the game. In a dev interview, one of the devs told a story about how he showed the statue to another dev, who immediately guessed what it was, and both ended up laughing. Later, after the hype, they changed the 2d text to an actual model, which, if it wasn't a mistake, would have already had one. Everything in relation to the statue was added after hype kicked up. I love the story that came out of it, but if a dev who had no relation to story beats can guess it on first looking at it, then the secret cutscene was right, we really need to stop looking for patterns where none exist.
@ Later updates added a shack with a data server that had a bunch of text logs related to FFB605, the statue was added to player homes, a laptop in a garbage dump with a cypher that had FFB605 in it, and the cutscene out in the badlands that had the qr code which told the player that they found the answer to the mystery.
I actually think that the existence of Keanu Reeves in-universe can have a lore explanation in relation to Johnny. It is known that body mods allowing people to sculpt their appearance and voice into other people, even celebrities. This would actually allow both of Johnnies appearances to be canon, as his original appearance in the tabletop RPG’s can be his birth appearance while his Cyberpunk 2077 appearance can be a body-mod he got to emulate Keanu Reeves, because he was probably a fan of his. Which is ironically funny because his personality couldn’t be more different.
Idk if it’s just me but whenever V has relic malfunctions in the game and the screen gets that static over it, there’s what looks to be the outline of an eye in the middle of the screen. Could be intentional or just my computer being weird.
The idea of Night Corp brainwashing Peralez doesn't conflict with idea of AI standing behind it. Nobody knows who is realy pulling the strings in NC. It might be an AI.
When it comes to smasher seeing us i just think he informed yorinobu via message and yori thought "ah the perfect opportunity" and killed his dad to blame.
About the Netwatch doesn't suck point and how they maintain the blackwall, if you read deep into the cynosure logs youll find neither of those things are true, and in fact they kind of just stumbled on the Blackwall and had Alt's help in bargaining with it to do what they wanted, and that currently they actually have no ability to actually influence it. Not only this but if you look closely the Netwatch logo is plastered all over the cynosure facility, meaning they not only knew but ASSISTED with project Cynosure to some extent
1:18:57 I thought that Victor was inspired by Spider (Henry Rollins) from Johnny Mnemonic. Which is also a Cyberpunk Movie where Keanu Reeves plays a guy who is used to store data in his head and was given too much data to store and it slowly starts to kill him.
I love the video but I hate the way you pronounce "Rache" it's ray-sh Edit: the way you pronounce most words(my-E-ko?) Maiko ) is weird considering you have played the game right? They say their own names
I find alot of youtubers have this problem across many games. Its common in Red Dead Redemption 2 that majority of TH-camrs say the city of Saint Denis as "Saint Denis" instead of San-De-Nee which is the actual pronounciation which is said by everyone in game. Some make it a point to piss people off with a "its pronounced this way because it looks this way and im American so i can say it the American way" mentality but alot of the youtubers just get it wrong and make no effort to correct themselves even when alot of comments point out their mistakes.
Dude just made the video for views. It’s not like he had to do much research, considering there’s already a ton of icebergs, and clearly he didn’t look very deep since he gets half the things wrong or can’t pronounce basic names
1:13:22 not allegedly, the datamine was legit. but its clear that the datamined script was a rough draft of sorts. but a lot of things on it like songbird, saving the president, yada yada was confirmed when the teaser for phantom liberty released shortly after.
I have both Nibbles and the Iguana but the Iguana hasn't hatched as of yet. Also, Johnny's memories aren't accurate and can also be attributed to Arasaka manipulating his memories. As he might not have been behind the bombing of Arasaka tower
We should always remember that V already died when Dex capped him. The V dug out from the landfill was already an AI - the engram - hobbling around in a human body, using the synaptic network present in the body as its interface to "drive" it around. Essentially it just plugged into a dead engine, repaired the busted parts through nanotech wizardry, and jumpstarted it. In a narrow sense, at that point he is no longer even sapient. The old neural pathways are just being accessed by an outsider who, in turn, is artificial. Funny innit?
Op is right if you read shards and remember your conversation with Hellman, the chip needs the host to be brain dead before it can kick in and begin rewriting neural pathways
15:31 never choosing that ending again everytime I see reed we smoking his pack for doing a brother like that I was stuck on that ending and couldn’t do shit dead ass i finish the credits shit puts me back in the hospital bed we letting songbird die and if we do save her reed that pack is being smoked heav
1:45:01 from what I think is that the next dlc or the next cyberpunk game might present a V who this time try to escapes from NUSA and managed to do that and become a living legend again?….
Anyone know the name of the OST used in the final tier? 1:46:20 Around here. Thanks. Never mind, got it lol. For anyone else interested, I know the link for the music used was posted in the description but specifically it’s “Leaving Home (Safe Before Exiting)” in “Music to Become A Restful Cube To” :)
Does anyone else notice that some missions are named after 80s goth songs New dawn fades joy division Killing moon echo and the bunny men Lucretia my reflection sisters of mercy And I think that Adam smasher knows or he feels like something is there but he’s unsure m
1:34:26 to me it’s a huge waste to record lines for both genders only to lock out one completely. With a simple console command you can romance Judy as male V and the dialogue between ‘em is perfectly fine, there’s a few instances where they obviously meant it only for a female V but it’s ignorable for the most part, a few words changed here and there and that’s pretty much it. Like, what percentage of the fanbase will use male v voice when picking female body type? Laughably small…practically non-existent lol and you just did that extra VO work for nothing 😂
With the ciri thing ' the Witcher universe has a multiple universe event to explain why elves 'humans , and monsters exist and ciri has elven blood in her and with that she can travel to other universes So even though they are not the same world but exist in the same multiverse at least the games universe
High relic rating is not actually required to get the "Don't Fear The Reaper" ending. To get the ending, you just have to pick specific dialogue options at the oil field.
Just gotta convince the engram you're on it's side.
What an absolutely nonsense requirement. Should've been based solely on relationship to Johnny instead of a single side mission. Good thing it's treated like a secret ending so I can forgive it.
@@co8weiit’d be nice if high relic rating OR the dialogue could achieve it
Fun fact. The reason why the USSR is still around in cyberpunk is because the original TTRPG was made when the USSR was still around 23:27
fun fact, ARCH is a real motorcycle company and Keanu Reeves is one of the co-founders of it
That's sick
Referring to Yorinobu is a hero: Once he graduated from highschool he was informed of all the dirty secretes of Arasaka. is is speculated that one of these secretes was the idea of his BODY being used as a vessel for his father Saburo. this is supported by his reaction during their meeting in konpeki plaza: "Our future? OUR?"
As mentioned my Jackie during "The Heist" in their hotel room, Yorinobu went off an formed a gang called the Steel Dragons in japan. and in the lore he primarily fought against and rebelled against Arasaka, which, at the time due to his actions of rebellion, was disowned from.
This all changed once the AHQ Bombing happened in 2023, he saw that even if you drop a nuke on arasaka they'll just brush it off in a few years time and keep going like it was nothing. so instead of continuing what he saw as a futile effort to try to take arasaka down from the outside, he got back into the graces of his family through the death of his brother (shared grief and all that) and began to dismantel it slowly and carefully from within, forming his own faction as well.
We as the players are tricked and fooled to see through the lens of V and to take there persepective at face Value, when in reality Yorinobu is a rebel, playing the longest con you could imagine
This all makes so much sense, I remember reading a shard in game referencing that at Yorinobu’s 18th birthday he was called into saburos office and told of something that made him, a few hours later, leave and vanish. In the shard it was never revealed what he said, but this makes total sense! Also, if you wouldn’t mind I would love to know how you figured this out! Or where you heard it from
Yes. Alot of the back story can be inferred by shards and computer msgs. I believe you can chuck a grenade at Yori to kill him.
I mean, where those actions so bad if there was enough money involved? Is Arasaka such a bad company when they make so much money?
@@DABATTLESUITAre you trolling?????
@@cirtexquake3370 he is a hidden hero, he knows exactly what is going on and his fathers plans to live forever by taking over bodies of close family members, it’s a shame we can’t side with yorinobu to end his fathers madness.
Also - Jackie in his final moments says "Misty knew, she always knew' - seems to make no sense at the beginning but when u look deeper it makes so much sense and it is so sad, omg so much foreshadowing!
Ok this is a goated iceberg video, Usually the problem I have with a lot of iceberg videos is they tend to not be as obscure at the bottom rungs and cover things that have been talk to death at the top video. Love how you already were getting into the lowkey obscure parts at the start
Correction: Mike Pondmsith actually voices Maximum Mike on Morro Rock radio station, reading conspiracy theories.
That’s what he said?
No he said he was a bartender at the afterlife@@Jizzargo
@@megapeebs2631 yeah and he also said that he was the radio host
@Jizzargo he also said he was the bartender which is false
Mike Pondsmith also voices the doctor that patches up Johnny after Alt gets kidnapped
With the whole Adam Smasher thing, I am partial to him detecting V and Jackie through the walls. From what I remember it is stated somewhere that he does have the implant that allows him to do such a thing.
There could be a lot of reasons or explanations as to why he did not, I personally think it plays into the arrogance of his character. Jackie and V were low-level mercs that had a very high likelihood of just dying to Arasaka security without him even needing to do anything. That might be the reason he let them escape because we know that Adam could have caught up to or just outright stopped the car physically with his bare hands. This came back to bite him as V got his revenge in the end, well, a majority of the time he did.
i think the entire job was a setup for the mercs to get blamed for killing saburo. im not sure they were ever supposed to successfully recover the relic, and V getting away is the anomaly. smasher DOES try to kill them immediately after he's cleared for it. johnny even being on the relic in the first place is sort of a prank on saburo on yorinobu's behalf. he wants to use the chip to give himself immortality so instead yori brings his ancient enemy back to life.
@@mattb6616 Wasn’t the heist set up in part by the voodoo boys tho? like they wanted the relic because johnny was on it, and they planned to use him to contact Alt. Dex was part of a huge gig in Pacifica that went to shit fast and forced him into exile for a couple years, and i suspect that he was only able to come back because the voodoo boys wanted him to do the heist in exchange for him returning to night city and regaining his position as a respected fixer, and they knew it was practically a suicide mission with little chance of succeeding so they used a disgraced, disposable fixer that isn’t all that important. it explains why he picked jackie and v, two low level mercs at the time, and his connection to evelyn who was only supposed to be an informant for the voodoo boys, and the voodoo boys’ technological expertise could be why dex knew what the flathead was and went to buy it off maelstrom.
And Yorinobu’s murder of Saburo felt more like a spontaneous instance of hotblooded murder and not premeditated murder, because if he did plan all this out, why not actually properly kill him to make it look more like V and Jackie did it? Yorinobu says Saburo was poisoned despite it being glaringly obvious that Saburo was strangled, something that Takemura definitely picked up on but couldn’t question him about it due to his position.
I think Saburo still would’ve been killed that night whether or not Jackie and V were there, because Yorinobu obviously has the power to just pass of an obvious strangulation as a poisoning, so he wouldn’t need to do all this with the heist to take out Saburo and could just fabricate evidence of an assassin taking him out. It’s more plausible that Jackie and V were just there at the wrong place and time
In the tabletop game books it states Smasher never takes a job unless civilian casualties and collateral damage are acceptable. “All the same meat to me, None leave the slaughterhouse.” If Smasher could see you through the wall/tv, He would have tore V and Jackie out head first
It's a bug. Boss enemies always see you and you can't hide from them. Don't know why people always assume everything is lore related. Especially in Cyberpunk lmao
@@saschaberger3212 this isnt true though lol. you can hide from sasquatch. people just say whatever they want about this game like its fact, i swear
every official expansion of this story i'll be there for, the main story was gold, edgerunners was gold and phantom liberty was gold
There is also a novel, not about V, where the audiobook is actually voiced by female V. It’s really good, both in terms of a audiobook and just reading it alone physically.
@@starbirbs5128what's it called?
Cyberpunk 2077: No Coincidence
The comics are also pretty good
@@TrueAnswers7Is a fun read. Have read that. Another good comic book, I have, that wasn't mentioned is Kickdown. The main character is a driver, looking for someone...🤓
For don't fear the reaper honestly I really wish as a reward for doing it you got Johnny's engram arm as a cosmetic since you used to be able to get as a cosmetic in 1.0
Watched the whole video, good work on this bro. I've really been trying to get into the expanded lore of this franchise and it's been a headache considering all the shards u gotta stop and look at. But I appreciate you for spending the man hours to put together something like this, it really helped out.
Just in case it’s not in this iceberg:
Quick hacks and other usable items in backpacks had custom descriptions. The quick hacks were the funniest- the unalive-hack one said: “Suicide note not included”
Trying for the life of me to get back to the earliest release of cyberpunk so I can see it again :(
>"unalive-hack"
>Still typing out "suicide note"
Truly the american education system at work
@ Yt has a habit of removing my comments, glad this one stayed up
@@BruhMomentum-fe1kjI immediately thought this myself
49:30 you can find one of those art shipments in game! and later on the picture will stay at Vs house in megabuilding as a nice little reminder of this mission :)
Where?
Another fun cameo is Nina Kravitz, a famous texhno DJ. She is actually a ripperdoc near Delamain HQ, and you can hear some of her tracks on Samzdat
Referring to Adam Smasher Detection. Many have theorized that Adam Smasher intentionally did this as a method to move up the corpo ladder. with V and Jackie there, if they killed Saburo, Takemuro would have failed his job and Adam Smasher would be promoted. and this is actually sort of what happens.
when this game came out i felt like i was the only one defending it. even with all the bugs and glitches and missing content this game was a BLAST to play i loved every second
Naw I'm out here calling anyone claiming it was "bad at release" a parroting fraud. Game was goated on release it's just BETTER now.
"Basically unplayable" LOL I was playing it on a 4 year old laptop with outdated everything. People are just idiots.
heres another one. i played through it on ps4 pro at launch and had a blast. its an rpg right, so i didnt need 120 fps to have a great time. i never felt ripped off or anything like that. when the game was over i was sad, and that doesnt happen often.
RE: The Neural Matrix - Songbird would absolutely lie to V about it working more than once - she specifically does and admits to it if you betray Reid.
That thing about ALT. I think the Explosions that rocked the building is what disconnected ALT’s body from the NET. The only thing Johnny did was think she was dead already, instead of Jacking her back in. What we see happen a lot of times in 2077 is how Johnny (The Construct) Remebers.
I think Adam Smasher may have known V and Jackie were there. He is unwavering in his loyalty, but during the Parade mission he also doubts and disregards Oda’s assessments of threats happening as V dispatches snipers and guards all around them. He truly has no care for any life, even his employers. He needed to be told and encouraged likely by payment to incite action.
I think it makes more sense he didn’t call them out because he knew Yorinobu wanted to kill his dad and the intruders could be used as fall guys. If he broke their cover before Saburo Arasaka was dead that would be pointless
great video, amazing research! i was very surprised to find out you're a small channel! keep growing man!!
Regarding Smasher and Michiko situation, Adam at the time was using Gemini class full body conversion kit, which is infiltrator-type cyberbody that outwardly looks like normal human and comes equipped with Mr. Studd augment for male model.
Which I believe is made to look like Elvis which there’s a joke to make there
Regarding the Delta V boots: Delta-v is a term from spacecraft flight mechanics, describing a change in velocity. I suspect that it's the origin of the "delta" slang in canon.
Ah yes songbird lying is a stretch....its literally her entire character.
I don't think songbird ever actually tells anyone the truth about anything unless it is literally impossible to continue the lie she had covering said truth. It's the one genuine complaint I have with her character; since it depends on you sympathizing with her when all she does is lie not just to everyone else, but also to you.
@@plutoniumrocks I mean, she didn't have to reveal the truth about the matrix but chose to because she grew to care about V
I think Mr Blue Eyes is just a proxy for a Rogue AI. Maybe it's just a walking corpse being controlled by an AI or a regular dude that is constantly being told what to do and say by an AI.
Maybe Morgan Blackhand was captured years before 2077 and his remains are being used by this AI, but I feel like that would just waste the character.
I think the Blue Eyes are A.I. and human consciousness in some combination. Engrams of Ghosts put into brain dead clones or Full Body Conversion cybernetics
Mr blue eyes could be the body alt uses. The program that let's Nite watch control and manipulate others. We did get her ex out of arasaka. Johnny even bets alt he can get v to willing hand over the body.
it could also be THE G-MAN!!!!!1!!!!!!1
Love the video but I'm surprised you didn't include the vampire theory and existance of them in a cave network under Night City considering there's some shards regarding them aswell as Garry the Prophet bringing them up also the vampire implant existing in universe
That would've been a good inclusion. There were a few things like that that I wish I could've included but didn't want to stray too far from thrifty's iceberg, maybe I should start putting together my own with all these in mind
@@MulgarLivehey, ThriftyGeo here, I’ve actually made a new iceberg and I’m making a video about it that will release in a few weeks
@MulgarLive I understand what you mean. judt thought I'd bring it up, no hate or anything it's just a little cool fact that you can miss if you aren't big into the lore
"Ratshe Bartmoze" 😭😭
Here’s my take on Adam smasher seeing us, it is obvious he can he is hired by yorinobu not his father and he definitely knew he would kill his father Adam can literally use Jackie and V as fall guys for saburos death which literally ends up happening side note I miss the old cyberware like threat detection it was so good with tech weapons
Awesome video! It's crazy how much of a following this game has built despite the initial release. Let's you live out the cyberpunk fantasy you've always dreamed of!
How fast 2 hours flew by.
Wonderful video that I was able to listen to at work!
Love all the classic rock mission names. "War Pigs" "Don't fear the Reaper" etc
Literally every story quest after act 1 is named after a song
@nataliecameron Yea I didn't realize that until I got farther into the video 🤷♀️ lol
"Ratch" Bartmoss lol
don't fear the reaper was my first ending and my favourite one so far, it was incredibly moving, especially for my first time playing
Best ending
FF:06:B5 could be about the player watching him and he broke out of the Matrix and did what's called "Zero-Suming" where having stared upon the essence of reality, he simply ceased to exist. In the end, Polyhistor found us, watching him, and he was watching us watching him. This is fairly evident in his data entries.
No, it's us. Cdpr is watching us watch them, the game and what not. And they know we know we are watching each other. 😂
How I see the "Smasher knows where V and Jackie are hiding" is like, when Yorinobu and Smasher leaves the room after the murder Smasher is like "those were some weak mercs u hired to kill Saburo" and Yorinobu is like "what mercenaries?" Then proceeds to ram Delamain on the exit.
1:04:27 My personal headcanon for why Adam Smasher looks directly at you and even show up on threat detection is that if Adam were to try to go and kill V and Jackie, it would have interfered with the plan of killing Saburo. An additional side note I see nobody point out is that Adam Smasher was hired by Yorinobu NOT Saburo so whatever happens to Saburo Adam doesn't really care
Great job choom! Keep it up, you might get your own drink in the Afterlife.
19:25 I believe this is actually referencing the fact that Kerry replicates this interaction with a fan during a performance if you sit in the crowd for a moment and watch during one of his missions
34:32 I shoulda listened
another fallen soldier
FFB605 Is a missing texture with color assigned but no model present.
Before the hype, the texture was a 2 dimensional object, which looked similar to other terrain objects missing around night city during the launch of the game. In a dev interview, one of the devs told a story about how he showed the statue to another dev, who immediately guessed what it was, and both ended up laughing. Later, after the hype, they changed the 2d text to an actual model, which, if it wasn't a mistake, would have already had one. Everything in relation to the statue was added after hype kicked up.
I love the story that came out of it, but if a dev who had no relation to story beats can guess it on first looking at it, then the secret cutscene was right, we really need to stop looking for patterns where none exist.
When you say everything after the statue, what are you exactly talking about?
what does any of this even mean
@ Later updates added a shack with a data server that had a bunch of text logs related to FFB605, the statue was added to player homes, a laptop in a garbage dump with a cypher that had FFB605 in it, and the cutscene out in the badlands that had the qr code which told the player that they found the answer to the mystery.
@ People spent years trying to find an easter egg in a missing texture.
There's also a shovel that's a reference to Witcher towards the end of the game
29:50
Thats not Cyberpsycosis. Thats just being a pop star
Holy crap, an iceberg that actually fits an iceberg format - take my upvote!
Maelstrom has the divine right to please the machine god
great video needs more attention
I actually think that the existence of Keanu Reeves in-universe can have a lore explanation in relation to Johnny. It is known that body mods allowing people to sculpt their appearance and voice into other people, even celebrities. This would actually allow both of Johnnies appearances to be canon, as his original appearance in the tabletop RPG’s can be his birth appearance while his Cyberpunk 2077 appearance can be a body-mod he got to emulate Keanu Reeves, because he was probably a fan of his. Which is ironically funny because his personality couldn’t be more different.
Idk if it’s just me but whenever V has relic malfunctions in the game and the screen gets that static over it, there’s what looks to be the outline of an eye in the middle of the screen. Could be intentional or just my computer being weird.
Gotta lay off on the Jet man
Great video to smoke a blunt to
Just today I played the mission where you first meet Kerry with 85% on the relic and Johnny still said we don't get along, I was very sad
Im sorry but it absolultey is IN character for Songbird to lie to V. The whole PL plotline is set of by her near compulsively lying to V
Great Video :)
Great work!
Hopefully cyberpunk Orion can be the E3 demo we were promised that’d be insane
Really hoping we get more 3D cutscenes like in the E3 demo, they were very good in the main game too.
How you gonna forget my man idris
After watching the video, I shudder to think how he would pronounce it
@@generalgk he would 100% say "eye-deer-iss"
The idea of Night Corp brainwashing Peralez doesn't conflict with idea of AI standing behind it. Nobody knows who is realy pulling the strings in NC. It might be an AI.
Ratch Bartmiss
Hearing the name Mr. Hands as someone from Washington is akin to saying a forbidden name
When it comes to smasher seeing us i just think he informed yorinobu via message and yori thought "ah the perfect opportunity" and killed his dad to blame.
About the Netwatch doesn't suck point and how they maintain the blackwall, if you read deep into the cynosure logs youll find neither of those things are true, and in fact they kind of just stumbled on the Blackwall and had Alt's help in bargaining with it to do what they wanted, and that currently they actually have no ability to actually influence it. Not only this but if you look closely the Netwatch logo is plastered all over the cynosure facility, meaning they not only knew but ASSISTED with project Cynosure to some extent
Spectacular job!
1:10:50
Honestly that would kinda just be narcissism given V is becoming Johnny
Perfect, absolutely perfect. Thank you
Cool fun fact for people who plan on buying this game for ps5. Buy the ps4 version because it's cheaper and contains a free ps5 upgrade🤑🤑
1:54:28 That's literally just Reyes, in fact I'd go out of my way and say Reyes was them reusing Morgan's model they scrapped for plot purposes.
1:18:57 I thought that Victor was inspired by Spider (Henry Rollins) from Johnny Mnemonic. Which is also a Cyberpunk Movie where Keanu Reeves plays a guy who is used to store data in his head and was given too much data to store and it slowly starts to kill him.
I love the video but I hate the way you pronounce "Rache" it's ray-sh
Edit: the way you pronounce most words(my-E-ko?) Maiko ) is weird considering you have played the game right? They say their own names
I find alot of youtubers have this problem across many games. Its common in Red Dead Redemption 2 that majority of TH-camrs say the city of Saint Denis as "Saint Denis" instead of San-De-Nee which is the actual pronounciation which is said by everyone in game. Some make it a point to piss people off with a "its pronounced this way because it looks this way and im American so i can say it the American way" mentality but alot of the youtubers just get it wrong and make no effort to correct themselves even when alot of comments point out their mistakes.
"Ing-grums"... It's pronounced en-gram. Just like everyone in game says it. Which is a "short" reference for personality enneagram. 🙄
Dude just made the video for views. It’s not like he had to do much research, considering there’s already a ton of icebergs, and clearly he didn’t look very deep since he gets half the things wrong or can’t pronounce basic names
ppl still haven't figured out that youtubers intentionally mispronounce words to drive up engagement?
Not "/HOven nerd/", it's spoken "/JOven need/", in portuguese the "J" sounds exactly like the english J.
He pronounces SO many things wrong
1:13:22 not allegedly, the datamine was legit. but its clear that the datamined script was a rough draft of sorts. but a lot of things on it like songbird, saving the president, yada yada was confirmed when the teaser for phantom liberty released shortly after.
Alpha Centauri is just an way to say Arasaka Corporation
It's a group if rougue AI syndicate
I have both Nibbles and the Iguana but the Iguana hasn't hatched as of yet. Also, Johnny's memories aren't accurate and can also be attributed to Arasaka manipulating his memories. As he might not have been behind the bombing of Arasaka tower
SPOILER: He wasn’t it was a Militech. I mean, think about where tf a rocker is gonna find fissile material.
you are correct about his memories being inaccurate but like we know what happened with the bomb though
These pronunciation errors dude🙂↔️
brotha you should've seen how many there were in draft 1 💀
good video, just wish he didn't mispronounce literally everything
same tho fr 💀
We should always remember that V already died when Dex capped him. The V dug out from the landfill was already an AI - the engram - hobbling around in a human body, using the synaptic network present in the body as its interface to "drive" it around. Essentially it just plugged into a dead engine, repaired the busted parts through nanotech wizardry, and jumpstarted it. In a narrow sense, at that point he is no longer even sapient. The old neural pathways are just being accessed by an outsider who, in turn, is artificial. Funny innit?
What are you on about? That literally cannot be the case based on the tower ending
This is so wrong it ain't even funny
Op is right if you read shards and remember your conversation with Hellman, the chip needs the host to be brain dead before it can kick in and begin rewriting neural pathways
that is literally not true wtf 😭
15:31 never choosing that ending again everytime I see reed we smoking his pack for doing a brother like that I was stuck on that ending and couldn’t do shit dead ass i finish the credits shit puts me back in the hospital bed we letting songbird die and if we do save her reed that pack is being smoked heav
I think it would be cool if Cyberpunk 2 had all the features the E3 demo had
8:33 also, blade runner 2049s Officer K
59:55 that aint like a braindance at all lol
I’m glad male v was confirmed canon
When was this? Female V is all they use in the marketing these days.
Fun fact: Bullets is name the of the song by Archive that plays in the 2013 trailer that features Melissa Rory, which is pretty cool.
The Zen Master was also in Tony Hawk’s American Waste Land.
1:45:01 from what I think is that the next dlc or the next cyberpunk game might present a V who this time try to escapes from NUSA and managed to do that and become a living legend again?….
Anyone know the name of the OST used in the final tier? 1:46:20 Around here. Thanks.
Never mind, got it lol. For anyone else interested, I know the link for the music used was posted in the description but specifically it’s “Leaving Home (Safe Before Exiting)” in “Music to Become A Restful Cube To” :)
I want the next cyberpunk anime TV show adaptation to be about ragebartmos
song bird lying to V is 100% in her character lol
Slight correction for Your Voice: it also has a physical release. I actually own a copy of it.
I always thought that blue eyes was a reference to the great gatsby
an iceberg video without an actual iceberg? 😢
Dude, those Slavic names are not that hard to research or pronounce.
Then pronounce them
@@Assassino275LMAO
Somehow he managed to fuck up more names than he got right
@@Guts_Sins guessing it wasn't your turn with the shared brain cell all berserk fans have
@@Assassino275 It's absolutely easy.
I need to remake a mission to save Takemura 😢😂
But you can save takemura, from the fire?
@@Leafeye7942I think they meant they have to redo it
@ ahhh
Does anyone else notice that some missions are named after 80s goth songs
New dawn fades joy division
Killing moon echo and the bunny men
Lucretia my reflection sisters of mercy
And I think that Adam smasher knows or he feels like something is there but he’s unsure m
every mission is named after songs
@@TUCHENZ specifically every mission after Johnny gets put in V's mind
TIL Disasterpiece was an 80’s goth song
@@reddays8448 bot just goth songs. There's some NIN and a lot of classic rock
1:34:26 to me it’s a huge waste to record lines for both genders only to lock out one completely. With a simple console command you can romance Judy as male V and the dialogue between ‘em is perfectly fine, there’s a few instances where they obviously meant it only for a female V but it’s ignorable for the most part, a few words changed here and there and that’s pretty much it.
Like, what percentage of the fanbase will use male v voice when picking female body type? Laughably small…practically non-existent lol and you just did that extra VO work for nothing 😂
For the iguana its important to know that you HAVE to be a Nomad to get it
No, you don't. The iguana in the Nomad intro is a separate iguana from the one in Yorinobu's penthouse.
Case in point: I got it as my Corpo.
@@JackContraband Also, case in point: For Nomad, V and Johnny have a little back and forth asking if it's the same Iguana. Jackie says it's not.
no you don't
With the ciri thing ' the Witcher universe has a multiple universe event to explain why elves 'humans , and monsters exist and ciri has elven blood in her and with that she can travel to other universes
So even though they are not the same world but exist in the same multiverse at least the games universe
Ain’t no way mr blue eyes isn’t at least a BIT of a reference to G-Man from half life
Valentinos are real ones for that
The whole game exists within the Relic. V died. V never really had a choice. Well, they had a choice on how to end his story.
Iceberg*
good call
@@MulgarLive great vid tho choom
56:40 this one a reach
that Ukrainian translation is based asl
E3 Deemo?
W catch Marko
You got several things wrong, but whatever