Norwalk Juicer vs Champion and Welles Press vs Green Star Elite Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.พ. 2011
- John from www.discountjuicers.com/ compares the Norwalk Juicer that is commonly recommended for the Gerson Therapy against the Champion Juicer and Welles Press or Samson Juicer and Welles Press, which are also two-stage cold press juicers. He then talks about the "all-in-one" solution of the Green Star Elite Juicer GSE-5000 by Tribest
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john sir you are actually the best. super entertaining super informative.
me and my roomate just got a omega 8006 after much deliberation and watching a ton of your videos. so far.. totally awesome!
Howdy John ! I just wanted to say that I so very much enjoy all you incredibly informative videos, from growing your greens to this one. I feel that they have indeed made me a more informed consumer...and gardener!
sending TEXAS sized "love" your way!
Hello John. I am happy to see you made a video about the Norwalk. I first found your videos a few months ago and wondered if you would ever talk about this juicer. In your video you said the Norwalk presses 1,000 pounds and the Welles 2,000 - I think you meant to say 1 ton and 2 tons. Also, for those interested since juicing is really important to me, there is a study if you google: "other-juice-extractor-comparison-2007" which shows the Welles Press yields more than Norwalk. It's the top link.
I love my Champion Juicer. I have bought two of them so far.
Discovered your videos last night....so informative! Thank you! Love that you share the pros and cons of all the juicers. It really helps to see the comparisons. I like my ceiling so I probably won't get a Norwalk because I am very easily distracted and have white ceiling tiles! :-) Blessings....
Yes, You can use the Omega 8004 or 8006 with blank plate instead of the samson. It will work about the same.
Once again, you nailed it in the info department. thanks so much John!
Included with each champion is a juicing screen, which is used for juicing. Instead, insert the "blank" plate which just "mushes" or homogenizes everything up.
You are the coolest John. Honesty is always the best policy.
I love your videos!!! Thank you for taking the time to educate us. I just purchased the omega 8006 from you. (today actually). And now I see this green star elite. Is it better??
The Grinder made of plastic?? How long do you think it will last? Off course there is always a replacement for it at half the cost of the entire machine!!
Yes, the Green Star Elite runs at much LOWER RPM than the "grinding aspect" of the Norwalk, so I believe there is less oxidation.
Overall, I prefer the LOW RPM juicers such as the Omega single augers over the Breville. I have videos comparing them at
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Lucky for me a former uncle had health care issues and got a juicer to try to help himself out on that. When he passed it took a while for anyone to pick it up. I decided to try it out. It lowered my cholestorol 50 points and helped me loose wieght *that with exercize* I shall never stop juicing. I am really happy to have my juicer.
This is an excellent and comprehensive overview! I also own the GreenStar Elite juicer and have been very happy with it. Thank you for your insight. God Bless! ~ Erika
John, I just LOVE your videos. Thanks so much! I'm wondering if you could use one of these presses to press olives or coconuts and make your own fresh oils? Have you ever tried this?
I do have another specific video on this subject. Its important that most vegetables (and even some fruits) are ground before pressing for best results.
Yes, you can use the 8006 as stage 1, as its very similiar to the samson, but the samson is better optimized for homogenizing as it has an adjustable outlet knob.
Hi John. Could you use a blender like the Vitamix at lower RPM's as Step 1? Are there any disadvantages for doing so? Thank you.
First, thank you for your videos! Extremely informative. Have you ever compared the kitchen-aid "strainer" attachment as a juicer? I have a mixer and it would be more cost effective to just buy the attachment than a new juicer.
@rawfoods I have much to learn, best wishes to you and your family.
Thank you!
1. You can use the vrt 330 to extract the juice, and then press the pulp. I have a video demonstrating this. That being said, the Gerson juicing program specifies using the norwalk and the two-step press ie: grind, mix and then press.
2. The press style juicer is truly "best" for juicing tomatoes. Put the tomatoes in the press bag and then press it out.. yummm.. Other than a press, I prefer the Omega VRT for juicing tomatoes. I do have a video showing that in the breville vs vrt video
Its very simple. While the machines do run at high RPM, each style (norwalk grinder) or centrifugal ejection works a bit differently - shredding on the ejection juicers and grinding in the norwalk. Plus the housing on the norwalk is thick which reduces the sound.
Yes, you could use the manual juicer.. If you have TIME.. it will take some time and strength to process the vegetables manually. Whatever way you can break down the vegetable into a "pulp" will work, with electricity (my choice- its just easier) or without if you choose.
I have not. In general when "they" try to make attachments for an item to do another purpose, it usually isnt as good as a item built from the ground up to do that task, in my opinion.
Im not generally a fan of mixxing most fruits and vegetables. That being said, I would rather mix apple or pear or asian pear with leafy greens. On ocassion I will also mix orange juice or citrus with greens. If you can do straight greens, do it! If you can add some orange juice so at least you CAN eat those leafy greens. I have not heard that citrus inhibits the body from absorbing nutrition. That being said, in general, I agree with food combining.
Hi John! If u get alerts of new questions on older videos here is mine: HOW can the Norwalk grinder spin at that RPM & NOT be as destructive NOR as LOUD as centrifugal juicers? I have heard & seen the Norwalk in action & it is whisper quiet so I don't understand how the RPM u mention can b so. When u infuse veges/ fruits w/air n heat from a violent pulverization the juice WILL de-nature & oxidize quickly. Norwalk juicers do NOT add heat nor air & keep the LONGEST! How is trituration different?
In my opinion, the Green Star Elite and the Welles Press would be superior to the norwalk. Why? the 1st stage would be at MUCH lower RPM, plus the Green Star Elite has the "mixxing" stage to better help to get the pulp ready for juicing. That being said, for many the GSE is an overkill and will add time to your juicing process, as it can go slower.
I have seen the movie, and recomend it. Foods that help inflamation are fresh fruits and vegetables. In my opinion, its more important to leave out the foods that CAUSE the inflamation, which includes processed, packaged foods that are not fresh fruits and vegetables.
Hi John, I'm physically disabled and with my disability I've started to develop inflammation problems. Recently I watched the movie "Fat, Sick, & Nearly Dead" I found it wonderfully inspirational an I'm ready to try juicing more regularly. My question for you is, do you have any insight about foods that have helped inflammation? Also have you seen the movie, & what was you opinion about it?
Anyone else: If you want to see some amazing results from juiceing & juice fasting watch this movie!
Hi John, Which juicer do you prefer the centrifugal or the masticating juicers? Do you have a video which compares the Breville Centrifugal Juicer verse the Omega Masticating Juicer. You have me on a mission to find and juice the Jackfruit in Chicago!
geat videos!! hey i was wondering would a jack la lane juicer be okay for the gerson therapy?
Can I use the Omega 8004 or the Omega 8006 instead? Will it work the same, better, or worse? Thanks for your help!
Yes, for $2500, I think it should come with a servant to run it for you. My understanding is that the Gersons and Norwalk Walker (creator of the Norwalk) worked together and were good friends. I imagine that's why the Gerson therapy uses and recommends the Norwalk. Understandable, I think. Thanks for the video, comparisons and demonstration.
2 questions: 1. why not just use say the vert 330 or such, and just press the pulp out in a welles press, then mix the two? 2. i know you lean towards the Omega line of juicers, but in your opinion, what is the best juicer for tomatoes? you have so many videos, i may have just missed it, but didn't see it in a search. enjoy your videos.
One thing you didnt mention John, is the press can juice many fruits without even grinding at all. Just slice them into manageable pieces an wrap them in the straining cloth, i should say its high juice content fruits. awesome machine tho id get one if they developed a economical model I'm sure gerson has a contract to recommend them.
the reason for the norwalk choice is theres very little oxidation of enzymes
@Mnlsnk Actually, the grinding effect raises food to a higher temperature, moreso then centrifugal juicers which aerate and contribute to oxidation. Heat at 148 degrees kills nutrients, but all juicers only raise the food temp 5-12 degrees, never harmful to anything. Oxidation also occurs in every juicer, some more then others but again it doesn't matter. You're supposed to drink the juices right away - period. Stored cold %100% juices still have plenty of other nutrients though up to 4 days.
I prefer the Samson Single Auger Juicer model 9001-9006
It depends. Each juicer has their pros and cons. I go over the pros and cons of each of the juicers you mention in the video:
watch?v=6tf45nEWTdo
rawfoods Which is the best machine for to use the Welles Press.??
Technically you would have to ask Gerson if "it is ok" they approve the machines to use, and as far as I know only the Norwalk is recommended. That being said, here are my opinions on the subject:
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the greenstar can handle small seeds such as apple, pear, watermelon, cantelope, pineapple, etc. It can NOT handle pits, such as cherry pits, apricot, and other larger pits in fruits.
So, Norwalk is a 3-step juicer?
I have never tried that.
If the norwalk juicer spins with such high rpms, doesn't that heat up the produce. I thought that was the point of the more expensive juicers to spin slowly to preserve juice integrity.
See
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That machine must be at LEAST 30 years old; note that it still runs. And I'm a Norwalk owner; there's nothing on my ceiling except paint.
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