Working A Shift At An Iconic New York Doughnut Shop | Bon Appétit

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  • Ever wonder what it's like to work a shift at a famous doughnut shop in New York City? Step behind the counter and into the kitchen with DeVonn Francis as he's given a crash course on how to keep the dough rolling by head pastry chef Jessica Bone and Leslie Polizzotto, co-founder of The Doughnut Project in New York.
    Director: Dan Siegel, Gunsel Pehlivan
    Director of Photography: Kevin Dynia
    Editor: Rob Malone
    Host: DeVonn Francis
    Producer: Christie Garcia, Halie Aaron
    Line Producer: Jen McGinity
    Associate Producer: Dimitri Lazarashvili
    Production Manager: Janine Dispensa
    Production Coordinator: Elizabeth Hymes
    Camera Operator: Kirsten Potts
    Assistant Camera: Allison Cavanaugh
    Audio: Nick Dalessio
    Production Assistant: Connor Kavvas
    Post Production Supervisor: Andrea Farr
    Supervising Editor: Eduardo Araújo
    Assistant Editor: Billy Ward
    Special Thanks: Leslie Polizzotto, Jessica Bone, The Doughnut Project
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  • @keepXonXrockin
    @keepXonXrockin ปีที่แล้ว +670

    People saying the head pastry chef was mean all the time - yes, she mentioned the time, but she also took care to mention whenever he did something well and offered positive reinforcement. She never even directly said "you're too slow", but something like "we could move a little bit quicker".

    • @marknash6518
      @marknash6518 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Additionally, although doughnuts aren't his thing, DeVonn knows kitchens and kitchen time pressure. None of the feedback fazed him because it's just normal. He has received and undoubtedly given exactly the same feedback in countless other situations.

    • @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691
      @watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's not slow she didn't hire enough staff so it's her fault. 2 people one being a tranee. This lady is sweat shopping these employees.

    • @flowerofash4439
      @flowerofash4439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it is just the nature of a skiny women, they always act like that

    • @HisVirusness
      @HisVirusness ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@flowerofash4439 I don't think that's the person they were talking about.

  • @catherineryan8875
    @catherineryan8875 ปีที่แล้ว +759

    man yall commenters don't realize how nice the head pastry chef was...considering she has a reputation & order quota to uphold/hit daily as a hot shop in NYC. the shop doesn't need the press & BA was barging into their space...still Devon slayed

    • @HJima
      @HJima ปีที่แล้ว +60

      They were the ones who agreed to it so its still partially on them lol

    • @3l3llala13
      @3l3llala13 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      More press/positive publicity never hurts any business.

    • @flazay_da
      @flazay_da ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I mean publicity is likely one of the big reasons they agreed to have them film.

    • @ajack6421
      @ajack6421 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes! He is absolutely adorable and she's committed to her craft!

    • @oldironsides4107
      @oldironsides4107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Guys a huge flamer.

  • @zandert33
    @zandert33 ปีที่แล้ว +325

    I get the feeling that the BA crew got there much later than they should have. I can picture they were supposed to start working closer to 5

    • @keepXonXrockin
      @keepXonXrockin ปีที่แล้ว +69

      I was going to say, maybe they should have even started a little ahead of the usual start of the shift to account for the hold up of filming plus the understandable lack of experience

  • @PurpleElephantMusic
    @PurpleElephantMusic ปีที่แล้ว +99

    this head chef is probably one of the nicest people I felt. Positive reinforcement while also pointing out time crunch

  • @imranak12
    @imranak12 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    She's a great teacher. I'd learn the job so quick with her training. Awesome leader. She showed patience while staying professional. Idk how any1 can say she's being rude, she was nothing other than pleasant.

  • @jaapspruitenburg6625
    @jaapspruitenburg6625 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This pastry chef shows really some great leadership! She just says we're behind on time but don't let it intimidate you, just do the best job possible. And she gives great compliments as she sees he is motivated and also shows him what she sees when the doughnuts are fried.
    I would personally be a lot more frustrated with someone at the front of the house coming in and saying there are only four of the twenty-five tastes on the shelve and they get to open in a few minutes. That intimidates trust in the back of the house a lot more, but Jessica kept calm and trust in him, and handled it great. Eventually seeing the milk frother of the coffee machine covered in residue would make me think front of the house would have something else to care for.

  • @vsheran
    @vsheran ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You can tell half of the comments have not worked in food . The pastry chef was so nice !!

  • @leeonit
    @leeonit ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Y’all wylin. Kitchens are intense they seemed pretty nice considering. And the point of this series is that it’s a real glimpse into their real workday.

    • @coolman72891
      @coolman72891 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      forreal, but you know whats also fkin wild is the fact that theyre selling just one of those regular glazed donuts for $4.50. A Single Donut.........

  • @wifiguy51
    @wifiguy51 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Jess is such a great teacher in a stressful situation! I feel like his second day on the job he would do great!

  • @katjavahronen6006
    @katjavahronen6006 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Could watch longer videos of this sort. As a former kitchen employee, this takes me back and warms my heart. Devon should open up their own business and start a reality show !

  • @valf156115
    @valf156115 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I thought she kept a good attitude and was patient with him despite the lateness!

  • @emilymckeeby6442
    @emilymckeeby6442 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I don’t always love these “working a shift” videos, they can be stressful 😅 But Devon is so charming!!

  • @king_ltc_
    @king_ltc_ ปีที่แล้ว +152

    If you guys think she’s annoying, she’s a sweetheart compared to some other individuals in the kitchen. Especially considering the reputation that the Doughnut Project has as New York City’s top doughnut specialty stores.

    • @JonathanOstrander
      @JonathanOstrander ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Everyone seemed pretty nice. Not sure why there are a bunch of comments about it...

    • @mattymattffs
      @mattymattffs ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@JonathanOstrander because they're idiots. Why'd you invite a film crew? Why complain about being behind? It's like they don't understand that the entire point is to see what it's really like, not fake it

    • @king_ltc_
      @king_ltc_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mattymattffs Free publicity and it shows a typical day in the life of what the staff do. It doesn’t exactly have to be what they do everyday. Then there is no point in having the host there.

    • @ColbyARussell
      @ColbyARussell ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@JonathanOstrander the comments between everyone involved in this video are dripping with passive aggression.
      Someone did not prepare for this shoot. Whether it was the donut shop or the Bon Appetit crew is not clear. Maybe the crew showed up later than they were supposed to, or maybe the shop didn't take into account the fact that *they're shooting video*-you know: like the kind with a presenter, and they're not just starting off a new worker...
      Given the prevalence of small/local business owners who are absurdly irrational and given that we already know they're a donut shop with wacky ideas about timing that includes opening at 9 AM (wat) and they made the choice *not* to say, "this isn't going well-let's try again tomorrow if possible, but we need to scuttle this attempt so we can get back on track/make up for the lost time", it seems reasonable to conclude that it involved *at least* a little bit of unpreparedness on the part of the business.

  • @Nyx_Nyx
    @Nyx_Nyx ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I worked in a bakery when I was in college. I actually miss the early mornings. I have a corporate job now but if I could make the same money I’d go back to baking.

  • @vickylikesthis
    @vickylikesthis ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I love the choice of having Devonn takeover this show ❤️

  • @nathanmallen
    @nathanmallen ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I think they were behind.. not certain, but pretty sure..

  • @tessat338
    @tessat338 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    He has the perfect hairdo for working in a restaurant with food. So sensible! If I ever had to go back to working in a commercial kitchen, I would learn to French braid my hair close to my head.

  • @ReksratYTB
    @ReksratYTB ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This has further proved to me that I do not belong in the kitchen. Devon handled things a lot better than I would've.

  • @janethope
    @janethope ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I love Devon. Beautiful inside and out ❤

  • @btienterprises9306
    @btienterprises9306 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Y’all brought it back!! I missed this show !!

  • @tanjagold
    @tanjagold ปีที่แล้ว +3

    DeVonn is grace under pressure. So skilled and funny. 😂 More.

  • @DoJoStan
    @DoJoStan ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Please keep doing these, Devon is such a personality!

  • @TheDuckofLaw
    @TheDuckofLaw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So glad to see this back and more DeVonn!

  • @styledbyjamal
    @styledbyjamal ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Baby they was not playing about that clock lmao! I know that’s right!

  • @KATHERINEJANEKT
    @KATHERINEJANEKT ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I love DeVonn. I would literally watch him do anything. He has the best energy

  • @kaylatahaafe8497
    @kaylatahaafe8497 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    love his energyyyy!

  • @vaultboi76
    @vaultboi76 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I LOVE this host lol, he’s fun!

  • @Yanelyshm
    @Yanelyshm ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Poor devon that was a lot of pressure! lol but he did great. It was great seeing his personality more on this episode.

  • @c15733
    @c15733 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Love this series! DeVonn is hilarious.

  • @mstrasser
    @mstrasser ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Love this series. Glad it's back!

  • @chenz69
    @chenz69 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    How many times can someone say “we’re behind” “go fast” omfg 🤣

    • @matthewjackson9615
      @matthewjackson9615 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The owner has to be the straw-boss and make it all come together. This isn't the Martha Stewart show , she's running a bonafide business that has to produce quality goods in a timely fashion. More power to her.

  • @TashJansson
    @TashJansson ปีที่แล้ว +23

    DeVonn did so great! First days at a job are so stressful

  • @vickyvick5892
    @vickyvick5892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing series, love Devon.

  • @Globalgusion123
    @Globalgusion123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gurrlllll I love this series esp Devon ❤ More of this pls

  • @irvin9arcia
    @irvin9arcia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol Piping! 😂 DeVonn is the best!!! ❤

  • @davidorourkesr
    @davidorourkesr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great series.
    Good job!

  • @annaslovesyou
    @annaslovesyou ปีที่แล้ว +211

    devon is such a sweetheart and his main goal was to make sure he was a productive team member and i felt so bad for him :(

    • @kelseymccormick8796
      @kelseymccormick8796 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      dude for real! i had to stop watching it because all i could hear was how often they told him how behind they were

    • @ericfrazer4736
      @ericfrazer4736 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      His main goal is to get clicks and views for BA

    • @annaslovesyou
      @annaslovesyou ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ericfrazer4736 how is he being clickbaity tho lmao

    • @glowtess1720
      @glowtess1720 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@kelseymccormick8796man y’all need to get offline they are a hot shop and she was never mean she just told him that they were behind on time which is true and they have customers to serve and schedule

  • @samuelmejia6878
    @samuelmejia6878 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is my comfort video

  • @eucarisrodriguez7641
    @eucarisrodriguez7641 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just love it

  • @heyheyheyyou9861
    @heyheyheyyou9861 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i enjoyed this really! hope you go to more cafes or pastry shops and experience what it feels like❤

  • @PARISONFIRE
    @PARISONFIRE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    super chill guy, was a pleasure to watch.

  • @cassvanessa5
    @cassvanessa5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was so great.. loved it 😊

  • @deeur153
    @deeur153 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LOVE THIS SERIES

  • @sussshhhhhhhh9991
    @sussshhhhhhhh9991 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    love love love this series and i hope they make more! Devon is such a sweetheart!

  • @heymona86
    @heymona86 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this man!!! So fun to watch

  • @sienadacostapinto9146
    @sienadacostapinto9146 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these are fun! do more of this series pleaseeee

  • @eleudis28
    @eleudis28 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    these are excellent doughnuts. always delicious!

  • @anasevi9456
    @anasevi9456 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Such a keen to learn sweetheart, he will have a rolodex of culinary abilities once this series is done.

  • @oceanwave3
    @oceanwave3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was very interesting. Thank you!

  • @WoahiFoundNemo
    @WoahiFoundNemo ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love DeVonn, so happy he’s on this series

  • @dodaexploda
    @dodaexploda ปีที่แล้ว

    DeVonn is my spirit animal!

  • @isabelb8774
    @isabelb8774 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this episode and the doughnut shop! Great job. It’s probably very stressful

  • @lfcbpro
    @lfcbpro ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a good series, I'd be interested if they could send the chef's back in a year after they originally made these and see how much they remember :D

  • @t4squared
    @t4squared ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Their doughnuts are pretty good. I get them whenever I’m craving a good doughnut

  • @ChristinaCheung1
    @ChristinaCheung1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Please do more of this series! I love watching Devon

  • @user-yg1ik1qq4l
    @user-yg1ik1qq4l ปีที่แล้ว

    This was so interesting to watch!

  • @lydiagagne6740
    @lydiagagne6740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was so accurate, I worked at voodoo donuts in Oregon and that was pretty much my day exactly

  • @demetriaduma6218
    @demetriaduma6218 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Devon is doing so good! great job devon :D

  • @sgs3750
    @sgs3750 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best doughnut shop EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @gabetomlin78
    @gabetomlin78 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “Welcome to the darkness because that’s when doughnuts happen,” Lol

  • @houston1293
    @houston1293 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    no shot another restaurant lets BA do this again lol

  • @fpsplayer9095
    @fpsplayer9095 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like him it doesn’t feel forced he’s vibing

  • @JacobCanote
    @JacobCanote ปีที่แล้ว

    Life is like that. Good job.

  • @JimRichardsBH
    @JimRichardsBH ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I loved her in the handmaids tale

  • @tess176
    @tess176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Devon is awesome

  • @Daniel_Loveland
    @Daniel_Loveland ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’m gonna miss Brad but I’ll keep coming back for this DeVonn content.

    • @itskandiii
      @itskandiii ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Where is Brad going?🥺

    • @MaalyB26
      @MaalyB26 ปีที่แล้ว

      I been away for a while but wtfdym you’re gonna miss Brad !?

    • @Daniel_Loveland
      @Daniel_Loveland ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MaalyB26 his contract with BA ended in December.

  • @Akakiba15
    @Akakiba15 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Having worked in a bakery this man stressed me out w how lackadaisical he was like I can appreciate a level head but omfg skdjfjfgktr

    • @Akakiba15
      @Akakiba15 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Overall Devon is the ideal first day hire especially having no experience lol considering the cramped space and filming crew they did amazing.

  • @meganrumpelt6713
    @meganrumpelt6713 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Devonn has such a fantastic vibe

  • @PaigeCalvelli1111
    @PaigeCalvelli1111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He did such a good job. Love how unique their donuts are.

  • @justalittlebitmo
    @justalittlebitmo ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Devon was too chill and chatty for the timeline they were on. And I probably would have been the same at that hour of the morning 😂

    • @katie2928
      @katie2928 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was slow AF!

  • @ria8894
    @ria8894 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looooove thissss ahahaha

  • @adamd485
    @adamd485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Devon was great!

  • @compellingpeople
    @compellingpeople ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Can someone make a companion video with a supercut of all the times they say they're behind?

    • @dralissa123
      @dralissa123 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Lol. I was thinking how are you inviting a camera crew in and then be stressed about timing. Lol. No

    • @romaczech75
      @romaczech75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dralissa123 Never trust an establishment that prepares what you consume if they cannot handle time management in any scenario. 👍

    • @bodyfultherapies
      @bodyfultherapies ปีที่แล้ว +11

      It was stressful watching.

    • @imranak12
      @imranak12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      They're running a business with a deadline to make. Of course they're gonna be stressed about timing when they're hours behind normal schedule. It's not like she was rude about it, just letting his co worker know that they have to pick up the pace. The dude expecting to be perfect on his first attempt at making doughnuts was cringier than her mentioning they were behind.

    • @qlrxj
      @qlrxj ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@imranak12 Where and when did he make it seem like he would be perfect? If anything you missed a lot of sarcasm...

  • @TakanashiYuuji
    @TakanashiYuuji ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the host.

  • @museummammy
    @museummammy ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely loved watching this and I don’t even like donuts.

  • @pocofkiwiburn1939
    @pocofkiwiburn1939 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He did such a great job!

  • @cashmere3169
    @cashmere3169 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I’m so confused on how they were that behind? 😂

  • @Magiatorta
    @Magiatorta ปีที่แล้ว

    probably delicious 😋

  • @fbastida_s7185
    @fbastida_s7185 ปีที่แล้ว

    don't pressure my boy Devon !

  • @marpulpfiction
    @marpulpfiction ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love devon

  • @sh-dawn
    @sh-dawn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Are there more videos with Devon? He is so nice

  • @silviachisholm3261
    @silviachisholm3261 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really want to know where in the world can you get those awesome doughnut cutters! I have looked so much and nothing

  • @AlexaJadeWarren
    @AlexaJadeWarren ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This series is usually so fun, someone needs to tell these women he isn’t a real employee 😌

  • @mantisbog
    @mantisbog ปีที่แล้ว

    DeVonn needs to get the tables.

  • @yellowcard1933
    @yellowcard1933 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He definitely knows how to pipe and be piped

  • @GregCurtin45
    @GregCurtin45 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    DeVonn? You never told us how the donuts tasted?

  • @cu99460
    @cu99460 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The presenter is such a cool guy. Like him. Did an amazing job. Im going to NY in a few days. Where is this shop exactly?

  • @Stephanchick
    @Stephanchick ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What kinda donut shop opens at 9am? I've already ate a dozen and havr had a nap by then

  • @loganmurphy9453
    @loganmurphy9453 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Something tells me BA was laaaateee

  • @sarahwotaszak563
    @sarahwotaszak563 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I guess this might be the show’s whole shtick but it felt like they were treating him kind of poorly, like making it seem like the problems were all his fault? DeVonn handled it all so well though, he seemed just so sweet and eager to help things run smoothly, and also witty. He’s perfect for this series/food content videos in general. Loved this episode!

    • @elisabethklain4204
      @elisabethklain4204 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      my guess is that production was running behind in one way or another, so that's kind of why they kept saying it. So it might have come off like it was specific to him, but more of a general side eye at production (or even something possibly like doughnut store saying "come at 5" and BA saying "lets do 5:30 instead" and the shop agreeing for one reason or another (like wanting the press or something))

    • @vinwulff
      @vinwulff ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yeah fr they were so passive aggressive wtf

    • @Nemecross
      @Nemecross ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@vinwulff haha, my guy, as someone who works in a restaurant; that chef was being so nice! Being behind is a big thing when you're prepping for service, usually you'd have a head chef screaming at you, but she was being lovely, showing him how she wants the things done and giving him feedback and guidance on his technique, while pushing to make sure they keep the pace up.
      In the world of kitchens, she handled it very nicely :P

    • @imranak12
      @imranak12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@vinwulff That's not passive aggressive, it's called being straight forward. He's there to make a show and has to be entertaining and has all the time in the world, which is fine, it's his job. This is her career/life. Do you expect her to not let him know that there's a deadline to make? Unfortunately this isn't a segment of just making doughnuts. They are in a business setting. They do not have all the time in the world for him to learn and play around. She could not have been nicer either. If dinner service was approaching and I still had tasks to complete and my Chef told me I was behind, it would not be considered passive aggressive. I'm so confused with the disdain towards the lady. She was very polite and pleasant. I would love to have her teach me to make doughnuts. She's a kind gentle woman with patience.

  • @dereklap1159
    @dereklap1159 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dream about the cruellers here. Probably in my top 10, maybe top 5, things I've ever eaten.

  • @dachicagoan8185
    @dachicagoan8185 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    New York has all these iconic places to eat. Meanwhile in my neighborhood all i have are corporate chains only accessible by driving

  • @MyNameIsWhat118
    @MyNameIsWhat118 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the first few minutes, I waas really wondering if they were a little behind. The chef shouldve mentionned it.

  • @abbyshackleton9198
    @abbyshackleton9198 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Did they not account for the time spent talking and that he’s not a pastry chef? Then spent the entire time blaming him for everything lol

  • @KRayxKodessA
    @KRayxKodessA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This looks _deceptively_ difficult. Wow.

  • @Wardothatguy
    @Wardothatguy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know what song was playing at the end

  • @cesarquintanilla8742
    @cesarquintanilla8742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🎉

  • @jackaguy
    @jackaguy ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If you need any more proof that the comments people are leaving on this video are misogynistic, take a look at the video Brad did for this series and the intensity of the supervision he had. No negative comments there.
    I wouldn't be surprised if the BA producers even cued the staff to emphasize the time crunch for the sake of entertainment.
    These women both struck me as patient and excellent at what they do. Worth reflecting on why seeing that makes you feel like they're too much.

  • @vanessaskinner2901
    @vanessaskinner2901 ปีที่แล้ว

    DEVON IS A QWEEN!!

  • @vickylikesthis
    @vickylikesthis ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Idk why people in the comments are so negative. She's intense but nice. Devonn is a great host for this show.

    • @romaczech75
      @romaczech75 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because this isn't a 30 minute baking challenge on Netflix or Food Network. People actually patron this place & purchase their food & eat it.

    • @vickylikesthis
      @vickylikesthis ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@romaczech75 are you replying to me? I was disagreeing with people who said she's annoying and needs to be nicer. I think she's perfectly awesome for what she needs to manage.