And they aren’t wrong considering how successful “haul” and “unboxing” videos are. I personally don’t care for them but those tend to get the most views. It’s beyond me.
everyone's talking about Jenna Marbles, How is she even entertaining? She uploaded a video with the title "Claire's makeover" and that got 6.5 million views, Tell me why would 6.5 million people want to watch that? What's so entertaining on watching someone who's 33! years old act like a toddler by dressing up like a child in a full on claire's makeover. All the videos about is Jenna Marbles buying a bunch of childish stuff from clarie's and giving herself a makeover with it. Where is the "Relatable" in that? I find it so dump to be honest. Even grown adults on TH-cam act like toddlers by the kind of content they still do. It makes them look 3 years old all over again.
I noticed a pattern with youtubers who have remained “relatable” like Sofia Nygard, Jenna Marbles, Pewdiepie etc. are often people who started their channel’s once they were adults and often already in their early 20’s. It makes me wonder if there is a correlation and if having a few years of adulthood and the struggles that come with it have allowed them to remain a bit more humble and levelheaded. This doesn’t necessarily mean that someone who starts their channel in their 20’s is automatically a better person, they just are more likely to understand the privileges that TH-cam stardom have awarded them. But it’s just a thought!
Hannah Koenig That actually makes a lot of sense! Another TH-camr who I think is still relatable is Colleen Ballinger, and maybe it was because she worked so hard as an adult to get where she is now. Maybe it is just a matter of maturity and whether you have been exposed to adult issues…
I think the reality of bills, and the insecurity of changing jobs a few times changes their opinion on spending money, whereas younger TH-camrs who've maybe had one part time job to have extra cash for shopping before they started blogging and then started making a large amount very quickly without ever really having to depend on their savings or being super frugal before.
The biggest shift you may see is a political shift as seen by Laci Green (left to right), Cult of Dusty (left to right to Communist) or myself split between PorygonFanatics and HammableOfCarthage (Ancap to Democratic Socialist/Chavista).
Amanda i honestly had to laugh about how a HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT tried to make a video stating her opinions about college. she genuinely forgot her place and where her origins lie.
i think also though it's important to remember that these people have been making videos over the course of several formative years and obviously your personality will change as you grow up like that's life. and blaming people for changing and growing up is extremely hurtful b/c its not really something you can control.
I like newer channels because of the low production quality. The "half-assed' aesthetic amuses me and sadly a lot of channels try to up the quality but don't go far enough to make it good. It's sort of an uncanny valley situation but with humor instead of creepiness
I think the problem with that lack of “relatability” is actually the offensive nature of being so unaware of the situation that 99% people are actually in. Complaining about your mansion and “experimenting” with Walmart or living poor just shows an insensitivity and blindness to your own extreme privilege that isn’t attractive, much less relatable.
When you grow up poor it stays with you, and when you do get any amount of money it feels weird, like you shouldn't have it or don't deserve it. I feel like he's just trying to let people know that he didn't always have this and not flex on them and also maybe come to terms with the fact that he does have it. I mean he definitely missed the mark, but I think that's his mindset anyway
And there werent 10 ads on a seven minute video and cats like keyboard cat or nyan cat ruled cyberspace But also really happy dogs are getting appreciated this decade
now people are doing it bc they have pay bills. mostt people want to stop doing youtube but they cant bc youtube is a major source of income bc without youtube they dont havre100,000 of thousands of dollars.
yes and before the algorithm changed to make TH-camrs have to put out content regularly for them to stay on top. I remember Tomska getting 10s of millions of views and only posting once every six months because everyone loved his animations. He could actually _take time_ to make quality content.
Jenna is a humble queen and I love that she just enjoys her life and her success on the downlow. She deserves it. Her, Julien and the pups all deserve the world.
so true, she spends MONEY on making her videos but usually on supplies for crafts or things for her dogs and not on big ticket luxury goods for herself. definitely helps to prevent alienating her general audience while still using her wealth to create interesting content
Nozomi Tojo masquerading as a poor person in my opinion is worse because it’s like if you are rich, embrace it, be grateful for it, don’t tru to act like you are someone you aren’t. Honestly I’d rather someone brag about being rich because at least they aren’t lying.
definitely being rich and trying to act as if they are poor,if you're rich and earned your success its not a big deal unless if you're one of those kids in my schools or pretty much everyones school who only brags about her parents fame that's very annoying
It's actually super easy to forget how successful Jenna Marbles has been financially because her personality hasn't changed and her content is still down to earth and funny
It's likely very intentional on the part of Jenna Marbles to not flaunt her wealth. Of course, it helps that she usually makes actual content that isn't dependant on milking her everyday life.
She even tells people to unsubscribe half the time, lmao. She never does that "like and subscribe!!!!" at the beginning of the video either, which I really appreciate.
@yall better appreciate hoseok one thing is fishing for suscribers when you're a small, young creator like she was at the start and another one is trying to get ppl to suscribe when your peak has passed. for years now jenna hasn't been fishing for suscribers.
I’d also like to add Cristine, or simplynailogical, she acknowledges that she makes a lot of money from TH-cam, but she encourages education. Like literally holding a contest every year to pay a semester of someone’s college tuition
Kylee Trenton I think she did in as much as she cared less about the fame as it grew and more about making herself happy and having fun. It’s something fairly unique to youtube in general I think, seeing how her success made her into a more genuine person because she isn’t trying to grow a channel anymore. It’s her beautiful plant that she can do whatever she wants with because it doesn’t need careful consideration.
Yeah. I had to pause the video and stare at the wall for a sec. Like can you imagine being this baffled by the concept of normal people working normal jobs every day.
ughhhh seeing the ace family "working" at the restaurant for "24 hours" made me cringe a whole lot. I currently work part time as a waitress and there was this "celebrity" who used to work for us (bcs the owner REAALLLYYY cares abt fame n publicity) and jesus christ never have I met a person so entitled to themselves before. Basically he intentionally took breaks when the restaurant was busy (the rest of us usually take breaks before or after our shift, but no he just stopped in the middle of the chaotic situation and said "kay im gonna eat lol"), and he told the chef to cook him this dish that takes a longer time to cook, and bcs the chef thought it was for a customer he cooked it only to find out that it was for our dear "celebrity." Not only did he slow down our work during busy hours by interrupting our chef, he literally took his fucking time eating his food until the crowd died down. And what's worse, the owner always sided with him, literally blaming me for not refilling water that was located outside the kitchen that the "celebrity" was conveniently standing next to when my job that night was mostly inside the kitchen prepping dishes. I don't care if you're rich or famous. And acknowledging the fact that other ppl would see u differently is important too. But if you start going around using that to ur advantage then ure a piece of shit.
@@meowdyllic even when they get involved into drama they do whatever they can to have everyone becoming on there side, they threaten whoever involved them into the drama and say it's all lies, The ace family does that, They do it and still make money off it. They just want money. So that is why The ace family always defends themselves during any drama so that there brand can still stay together for content and money. a fucking disgrace is what it is.
Sam Serrao since when were david’s videos relatable ?? he’s never been a “relatable” youtuber so it wouldn’t make sense to call him out for having a tesla and a really nice house. tbh he never really brags about having a lot of money
Honestly one of my favorite TH-camrs is Micarah Tewers. She's really fun and charming while also being somewhat educational. Her channel revolves around sewing and her daily life living in her RV.
@@DM-lu5lw yea, simply nailogical does a college tuition giveaway every year and donates all her merch sales to the cat cafe she got her cat menchie from. She makes bank but is proactive and conservative about it. Safiya and Tylor dont really flex tho.
@Welcome To Poppy's World yes she built a mock farm where she would dress up in a silk milk-maid outfit and pretend to milk cows and pet perfectly groomed sheep. There's a reason she was guillotined.
Eline Hoes that’s actually a myth but the idea behind it is that she was really disconnected from the real world and French people, which is definitely true
i love bestdressed as a youtuber because she doesn't pretend to be poor. she talks about saving money and thrifting and things like that, but she also states that she's in a privileged position and cannot relate to a lot of strugges people face, and she's super open about her privilege as well as her issues
@@audreywang3060 everyone changes over the years which is natural. It depends on how you view it. But I still like her. I think she is actually changing for the better because in LA she never got to be her true self. Also, she actually is caring for the pandemic and is just staying in her apartment ACTUALLY being safe so if I were in New York all by myself I would change a little bit as well. But my opinion tho
@Freedom Fighter dude yea she's made it clear before that she didn't grow up poor and that she's from a small suburban town in maryland. that is not a secret. and if she resells things she thrifts then it's cause she alters them and adds something to it. to say that she's never worked is a complete lie lol
TroyceTV used to get death threats and thousands of dislikes on his videos because he called out their BS years ago. I’m really glad people are starting to wake up. They exploit their child viewers into giving them money
I genuinely think Catherine might be a good person away from austin. Austin is the rotten apple except he’s super toxic and irritating and I think he brings down the rest of the family. I hated Catherine too until I saw a video of her “getting rid of” Austin’s jet ski and then having to use Elle as a shield because she looked scared of his reaction. I think he is really controlling and toxic. Plus she always apologizes when Austin fucks up and she is way too good for him.
@@anikachaturvedii he gives me narcissistic vibes. He seems unable to care about other people but himself and seems to be quite manipulative. I feel for his daughters as they are gonna have a hard time being balanced in the future.
Shane acts like he's poor but he's literally rich, obviously he doesn't have money like jeffree but he still has a lot of money compared to 9 to 5 workers.
I wouldn’t say he acts like he’s poor, but coming from a poor family to suddenly making more money than you’re used to, it’s difficult to come out of that “poor” mindset.
Jerom Maat no he isn’t if you see his series with Jeffree star he says how his salary isn’t that high from like from a a bit higher than normal paying job but way lower than other youtubers and ofc influencers too
Shamey Ames I’m talking about their money on their paychecks not what they save Jeffree gets paid millions of dollars as “paycheck” while Shane only gets a few thousand every week
Just blows my mind that so many wealthy youtubers, especially when they didn’t grow up or start off rich, start to take being poor as a joke as if that’s not one of the most stressful and depressing things people go through
@@nah_. who lets them lol they get famous through something unique to them like shane and his conspiracies, but get out of ideas and start running empty on trends to keep themselves afloat
@@user-np9lb1xh7k there not from actually poor people either, there from others who see being poor for a day as a trend too, so we're still not "making it their game"
I find it really offensive when these “influencers” act like it’s gross and sO hArD to work a 9-5 job or do “broke people things” like shop at Walmart.
i think a lot of youtubers like that never had to work to begin with. they either had wealthy families, or managed to get successful at a really young age so they didn't have to do a 'normal' job.
Delaney De La Torre Did you really just say Jeffree is humble? Are you people serious. He’s done several videos about buying makeup from Walmart and Walgreens... where millions upon millions of people shop and get makeup from. He was laughing the entire video and talking about how he hasn’t stepped a foot in one of those places in a long time. He is not relatable at all. You’re just a fan still, so you and many others don’t see it.
I feel like Aspyn used to be in the same category with like MyLifeAsEva, Bethany Mota etc. but now she is married, has a kid, and has just matured way more. She doesn’t try to be the “relatable teenager” anymore(which I am very happy about, by her content is enjoyable and not cringey)
Adison Lopez when she showed the group of people in that category I was so caught off guard seeing aspyns old content, completely forgot she was part of that kind of content! I like her content now. She has been able to mature her content along with herself, cool to see a successful content transition like that
I mean i can somewhat understand it. No he isn’t poor but growing up being really short on money i would believe that stays with you. Its a mindset more than an economical shortage at this point. Its pretty obvious he doesn’t use his money nearly as much as he could and he still seems very humble regarding his fame to be honest. Nevertheless he’s not poor and shouldn’t claim to be so but he can still be overwhelmed by others wealth without meaning any harm.
@@bitchmaffia9956 idk man, buying a mansion in LA with land around it, having multiple expensive cars, buying gucci stuff just for fun, getting a huge bouncy house, goats, dogs, a trampoline, a coffin, renting a whole ass child, ect. That's a lot and I personally couldn't afford a single thing I mentioned :/
It's only really in context to him having a lot less money than someone like jeffree star, he knows he isn't poor because he has been in the past and joking around about it with for example jeffree star isn't a big deal as long as you remember the difference in their financial situations and get that's what he's referring to
I feel like the fact that Jenna has a Masters degree in psychology would keep her not only grounded but aware of her actions as she knows how her actions affect others at a tertiary level.
Also explains why she took the fish episode very seriously, I love her so much for how professional she is when it comes down to it, a lot of youtubers and online personalities lack that rn
sapy i think she bought the wrong size fish tank or sum?? but she made a 30 minute apology about it and that fr shows how much she cares and takes issues seriously 🥺❤️
@@reecee2488 it isn't high quality like saf video where she goes into detail but it's exactly what people need Jenna to be. High quality video where you can shut down your brain and just enjoy it. It's low effort to absorb what's been told but it's high quality in that it's not filmed on a potato and doesn't give motion sickness
I think that one of the reasons that she's so great is that she hasn't lost sight of the ground. She prioritizes her personal life before youtube, and consistently releases creative and entertaining content.
it’s wild because even watching jenna’s new house video just elicited feelings of pride and happiness for her. maybe because she’s been around and “in my life” for ten years and it’s like watching your hardworking big sis get something she deserves...or maybe because it wasn’t about how big and fancy it is but just the fact that they were proud of getting to own a home for the first time, together. idk but jenna is just so sweet and mindful and self aware and it’s easy to celebrate her successes with her.
I feel like what Jenna spends her money on is what *I* would spend theoretical money on -- no matter what my income is, I'm not going to wear Gucci slides, because I feel like they're ugly and wasteful. I would ABSOLUTELY buy a crateload of Halloween costumes for my 17 dogs. The mansion is okay because we all know it's mostly just for Kermit.
@@nessapie8407and watching her videos you probably don't really even think about how much she spent on them. The money spending is just a catalyst for her content, it's not a part of the content itself
@@mmybickers i think that's a huge part of her popularity and appeal to millennials. like she's achieved the real millennial dream; not of obscene wealth and fast cars, but a nice well-lit home with her supportive partner where she plays video games and does weird shit and has a bunch of pets and plants.
I think Cody Ko is really underrated in this sense, he's extremely popular and likely makes a ton of money yet he still makes the same kinds of videos and doesn't really ever talk about his wealth
He and Noel still have not apologized for the offensive things they have said, and have doubled down on them occasionally. I would rethink your position on them.
Yeah! I was scrolling through Zoella's Channel and her views have increasingly dropped. She went down from 1.8 million views on one video to 4.6k(ish) views on one video. I was really shocked.
the moment I realized Emma wasn’t relatable anymore was when she made a video with the Dolan twins and James Charles where they shopped for each other and they all spent like at least thousand like it was nothing
honestly now she doesn’t put much of her life with her friends on youtube, she seems more relaxed and like a weight has lifted. when she was with the dolan twins and JC, she almost HAD to be the “newbie to LA” who should be spending all their money and making original videos. but now she hangs out with her friends in private and doesn’t put it all on youtube. she also seems to have got her stuff together now. she has her own apartment and goes to the gym/ has a good diet/ spends fine with her parents/ etc. she also has two days, which sound silly to say, but she’s given herself some responsibility. honestly i think by the fine you become as popular as she is, it’s hard to be the same “relatable” person as you were 3 years ago. she lived in her moms house and then in an apartment with her mom she got stalked and it wasn’t safe for her (she had money and that made her a target for crime and stuff). not here to be sucking up to her i just think that sometimes it’s hard to be the same as you were 3 years ago when she grew up 😊
@@nm541 But she said that she was gonna use them nevertheless. Perhaps she gave some to friends and family and use the rest. I may be wrong but she seems so sincere.
It def is wasteful and as someone aspiring to be in the environmental field its not ideal. However i am interested in the content and enjoy her personality
@@nm541 there's a flipside to that argument that safiya really invests in her videos. you can tell she comes from a "content producer" background, her stuff is always well made and she's usually got several videos in production at the same time. i think she spends that money knowing it's a good investment for her channel, she understands that it's a business and a brand. i don't agree with her spending so much on unethical produced stuff like on Wish, but at least with her makeup science stuff she ends up giving the end product back to her subscribers in giveaways
james charles: changed his personality and continues to become less and less relatable jenna marbles: the same relatable dork she’s always been even though she’s gained money and fame
Not to defend James because I do not like his actions, but you are more easily led astray when you have such a meteoric rise at such a young age. Still not cool though!
Jenna Marbles id definitely depressed. She looks like shes given up on life, and her content reflects that. She also snaps at Julien on their podcast and takes things way too personally. She should just quit YT if she gives no fucks, but I guess she loves the money.
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] In their 30-40 after they will quit TH-cam and all that TH-cam money and fame will be gone they will remember how stupid they were to not go to school or at least learn a skill to be able to sustain their lives for not just a period of time but forever
especially in this era where you see tons of new TH-camrs emerging, trying to be popular, the old popular TH-camrs will realize how irrelevant they have become
Tbh, most Asian content creators who are successful from TH-cam moved on to another venture or are super lowkey about the wealth they possessed. Idk if it's a cultural thing but so far Asian creators like Wong Fu, Anna Akana, Ryan Higa and RHPC, JK party, and family vloggers (they're a lot) to name a few don't exactly strike me to have this whole "not relatable" issue.
I love your videos. They’re always intellectually stimulating!! It’s the type of content that’s interesting without being pompous which is rare on this platform !!
This reminds me of bunny aka graveyard girl hiding her mansion, closet and cars bc she didn't want to flaunt. As a longtime viewer I was surprised that she's basically living a double life
strabababerry yeah like tiffany said, Just don’t obnoxiously flaunt it/flex on us all, don’t try to lie to people or hide that shit and say that you’re not rich. That’s just being disingenuous..
@@randomalienfrommars0567 I think it would only be disingenuous if graveyard girl pretended she was poor, and pretended she didn't live in a mansion? Like, atleast IMO there's a difference b/w hiding something b/c you just don't want to flaunt it, and purposely hiding it *in order to* push forward a completely untrue agenda (i.e "pretending to be poor"). i haven't seen graveyard for a hot minute, so ignore me/correct me if im wrong lol. Jenna Marbles is such an excellent example I think. We know she's rich, and that she has a great house, etc- but she never for one second makes a point to show her wealth, but that doesn't mean her life is a lie, right? idk idk. pls ignor me lol
I call that The Zoella Effect She was the first one to suddenly get absurdly rich as a teenager and went from Primark hauls (extremely cheap clothing store here in the UK) to suddenly making tours of her £2M mansion
cristine and ben take such a mature, level headed approach to the whole youtube thing that's so rare on yt. sometimes it feels like they're the only adults on here hahaha
She's still so down to earth and so humble. The best thing about her is her ability to accept critisism with grace and take accountability and apologize meaningfully when she makes a mistake. She is just such a great person.
@@permanentstateofawe6544 she and Julien also apologized for reading r/nosleep posts on their podcast when they didn't realize it was not allowed and it's also a very good apology. No theatrics. No manipulation. Just "this was shitty of us. Don't defend us. We are so sorry and we are doing everything we can to make this right with the authors, and we've taken all the podcasts down."
You aren’t meant to be a brand. You are meant to be a person. Its hard to watch TH-camrs and celebrities turn themselves (personality, like-ability, daily activities) into a show for people to watch and buy into. Dangerous game. Especially when you are young and media savvy. Learn to live life without an audience. It’s okay to create but keep it separate from everything you are.
I literally watched Haley Pham transform in front of my eyes. she used to be really cool and had good content then boom she got pretentious as hell and started acting all high and mighty
i know you commented this like a month ago but i relate so much I had to comment. Yea EXACTLY, i used to love haley's content and her personality like when she had this cute song at the beginning of he videos. Also her school vlogs were so funny and relatable. I totally understand what you mean by she transformed in front of my eyes, like it was gradual but suddenly her videos just seemed detached and a show off of " look at how PERFECT my life is, #relation goals # model etc and you can really see her trying to put on the act of relatable girl but its so hard to watch.
actually Ryan Trahan did not have a Tesla at 16. He worked RLY hard to get it. I also think that Haley STILL has good content and is not "all high and mighty" just my opinion.
Sophia this isn’t true at all.. he just bought a tesla a couple months ago because he’s a successful youtuber and he’s 20-21 i believe. and she bought a house on her own with her own money
@@cookwithkids3765 Same, I love Haley and she talks about how she saved fro over a year to provide for her mom. She even addressed the fact that she had changed and was focusing a lot on views. In my onion she is back to her old self now if not just a bit more mature. Also with the house thing, they work film and literally spend so much time in their house so they might as well invest in a house that are going to stay in. I don't know I'm kind of going on a rant right now.
Honestly, the thing that bothered me the most about the Hayley Pham trip thing was how she criticized Greece so harshly as if it was an amusement park. We should all know by now that instagram is extremely fake. Its kind of offensive knowing that every single place has it's good and bad things, doesn't matter if I'm Greek or not. Not everything in Greece looks like Mikonos ok? The lack of respect and fake expectations really hurted us man
I just came back from Athens yesterday. I loved the country. Even with stupid ignorant influencers and their audience, there are still so many people in the world who will actually do some research and get their own opinion. Everybody I know thinks highly of Greece, whether they've been there or not :)
@@sofiamitchell5314 I was only in Athens, Hydra, Poros and Egina but everything was wonderful, from the people, to the food, to the landscape and hospitality from locals. Loved every bit of it ❤
@@rocioosunabeltran9227 ah yes! We really try to be kind to tourists because there are so many and we love how much they actually appreciate Greece. :)
Sofía Mitchell I agree. It’s Hayleys fault for planning the trip to Greece wrong. Like it’s not the country’s fault she had a bad trip, it was her own fault lmao. She even tried justifying to not go to Greece because they’re economically not doing well. And I’m like so? So what? Doesn’t mean that you won’t have a terrible trip lol
I’ve worked medium wage since I was a sophomore in high school and after watching this, I’m honestly so grateful to have that experience. I couldn’t imagine dropping out of high school to be a TH-camr and never even being able to relate to working a day in your life
Keep waiting for SimplyNailogical to get mentioned, -Still has a day job -Still Totally relatable -Biggest flex is custom shelves made for her extensive nail polish collection
And she even has a nail polish line which is something she actually cares about and makes money from (great products if you love holo) and yet STILL encourages her younger audience to stay in school and work hard
I personally don’t like her videos anymore because she doesn’t do much nail art anymore, but she’s honestly a good person and was a good role model for me when I was in middle school, struggling to keep my grades up. She cares for what she does and puts her everything into it and that’s amazing
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MENTION ASHLEY IN THE COMMENTS ! I just think Ashley does a good job of being relatable and acknowledging the privileges she has had in life, while not discounting the hard work she's put in to get to where she is. She's so down to earth and sweet and even if she spends ungodly amounts on clothing (which she also acknowledges bc it's a part of her job) and travels and goes to events, she's still just big sister Ashley and talks about boys and being a girl in America and growing up and periods and stuff
@@maqicool I absolutely agree. I saw, how her channel grew, and I think she definietly "kept" her relatability, because her new money didn't change her personality at all.
@@maqicool Yesss!! She still seems authentic. And even though she buys alot of clothes, she goes for style over just flexing luxury brands. She loves Reformation but still doesn't go crazy shopping their clothes.
@@gnarlyghoul3203 This is the dumbest fucking comment I've ever seen. I love Shane, I've been watching him since 2009. I was there when Bree, Kat, Steve, Shanna and Britt made up his 'squad'. I bought one of his ugly 'Shane is my boyfriend' shirts from Hot Topic when they came out and have bought his movies on iTunes. I also bought a subscription the second his podcast went to Fullscreen. I mention all of this to convey the fact that I love him and support him, but he is not fucking poor. I cannot believe how fucking stupid and cringe-worthy his new wave of fans are. Don't get me wrong, I am so happy he's gaining traction and am ecstatic that he is so popular right now, but holy fucking shit are they all ignorant sheep. Just because he doesn't have the physical currency (he probably does) to show for his fortune doesn't mean he's poor. It's hilarious that someone would even try to defend Shane in regards to the subject. EDIT: Also, he's not fucking poor compared to other TH-camrs. He just makes jokes about that. In contrast to Jeffree he definitely has less money, but that's because he's a tactful businessman, who's miles ahead of your traditional TH-camr. Shane's level of wealth is in no way relatable or can even be considered poor, even at the comparison of other TH-camr's.
Y’all he makes poor jokes (or at least did before the conspiracy palette bacame a huge success) because, while he had nice things, he was in serious debt for them. He’s been upper middle class for awhile, but not rich. Even then it’s his personality that makes him relatable, not his bank account.
Shane Dawson’s only personality trait is “Being bRoKE” yet he is LITERALLY a multi-millionaire. Let me repeat that, MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The cognitive dissonance that is required for him to even utter the words “I’m broke” is just...... whew. Can’t even imagine.
Chloe Wiley He has been poor for most of his life though. He only learned to really start spending more money (buying gucci etc) recent times. He still wears worn out shirts with holes in them, drives an old ass jeep, etc. He generally only talks about “being broke” when he’s comparing himself to someone waaaay wealthier like jeffree. I agree he sometimes says it and I go like “shut up” but I get why he says it.
If I suddenly earned a lot of money, I’d definitely buy nicer things, move into a bigger house, etc. I think I’d be a bit hypocritical for calling someone else unrelatable for doing it. I think it’s a bit simpler than that. My theory: These people were always unpleasant. it’s just becoming more obvious to their audience the more they share about themselves.
I completely agree with you. It is hypocritical, and even then why is it so important for everyone to be relatable in the first place. It is bothersome if they still “act relatable” so I do get that. As someone who has grown up very very poor, it shouldn’t be competition of who is the poorest/ most relatable or deserving of nice things.
I don't think that's what it's about... It's not that that's unrelatable, like if you take Jenna Marbles, yeah she lives in a big house, has 3 dogs and buys a lot of useless items to carry out all of her weird videos... but people still enjoy them! It's because the essence of who she is as a person hasn't changed. She's still loud and funny and weird and people click with that because that's who she's always been (imo she's actually even gotten better with time because she's stopped giving a shit about whether or not her videos are going to fit the algorithm/be well received). It's more like if your content has always been relatable and people like you, and then you make a crap ton of money and this completely different lifestyle is suddenly your main goal, but you're still pushing the relatability thing - that's annoying. Not because you can't be proud of what you've got, but because that's all that matters to you anymore and you've lost touch with an audience that was primarily interesting in you because u were "just like them". Then it gets worse when and they can't tell why people are complaining about how entitled they're acting, or make weird "you changed" videos
i think that’s not the point of the video, there’s nothing wrong w making money, just that a lot of people let it affect their content in a way that’s detrimental to their original brand, creating a disconnect that makes them unlikeble to their original viewers
That’s complicated. Most people don’t do it consciously. There’s a few different reasons we follow creators and influencers: they make interesting content, they make content you can relate to and/or are themselves relatable, they have lived you can aspire towards, or they have the type of personality that your friends typically do.
I know, recklessly buying a Tesla before she even has a license... yikes And that video she took following Emma Chamberlain around Whole Foods while playing some immature song...
Yep she is relying on that TH-cam money to keep flowing in but if she continues down the path she’s going she’s going to be broke before she realizes what happens. Hopefully she can turn it around.
Right after Haley’s complaining about her vacation, I completely unstanned. edit: she apologized for her behavior lately and it seemed genuine so she’s ok for now! acknowledging your mistakes is growth, right?
to me it was as soon as she moved out, the first couple of videos were still really good, and then slowly she just changed and I couldn't watch anymore..
I was kinda sad when she got really popular because I liked her, like right before she blew up on social media, and inspired me as a dancer, but now... :/
I do think that Drew Gooden did a great job covering how TH-camrs often get famous for being relatable and then they lose their relatability and become less likable with that. That being said, regardless of Ellen's behind the scenes personality, I watched her "Relatable" stand up special and it was hilarious because of how absurdly unrelatable it was.
That is his marketing scheme. Why do you think he goes around wearing the same raggy shirt and shirts with holes on them? Especially when he is earning millions of dollars through the palette launch? It's all a strategy to seem relatable.
I feel like this is kind of what she was talking about in her last point. How he’s unrelatable but still somehow relatable. I think it’s because of his personality and how even though he’s obviously rich, he doesn’t let it change his personality, in my opinion at least...
@@gabrielle6307 nah, he obviously cares about the money. There is a reason Shane didn't include any drama or "tea" in his documentary (esp when he was teasing it in his trailers). He and Jeffree don't want to bring out controversial stuff that could ruin the palette sales. The series was basically an advertisement of the palette that was hours long.
When he says he's poor he himself says it's not poor as in broke but poor as in not making as much as Logan Paul or jeffree or the other succesful TH-camr out there...and he doesn't indulge in too much expensive things until recently...I don't think there's anything wrong with people spending what they make..we watched their content and gave them our time and views and they made money out of it..now u can't dictate on how they spend it.
The only point I disagree with is that Jefree isn’t trying to be “relatable” when he’s eating Burger King, Taco Bell, etc. He just really really likes fast food
I agree I lost think that he is more relatable to a certain audience but not like the way of his lifestyle but the way he think and acts plus a lot of his audience watches him because he is funny and entertaining and for his credibility on make up that doesn’t mean they watch him solely for him being relatable
Megan Ealey ya I also think jeffree doesn’t try to be relatable at all. He just wants to show how far he’s gotten by working his ass off and being an entrepreneur. Aka he flexes. People watch him pretty much solely because of that, and because of the emotional shane content (which does make him emotionally relatable).
Megan Ealey and he’s not relatable just bc he likes greasy fast food either. It’s not relatable to eat Burger King in his private jet that’s ridiculous. Donald Trump eats McDonald’s everyday and he couldn’t relate to a “poor” upper class person.
@@Kellieirvinn yea! i tried to email Jubilee Media and get them to put subtitles (for deaf and HoH ppl) and they totally were like "no thanks" i feel like youtubers who do are so much more respectable than ones who don't cus it seems they actually care about and are proud of what they're producing enough to make it accessible to as many ppl as possible.
I'm pausing the video on the Pham part to say this. As a greek person, i am angry she said people shouldn't travel to greece because we're economically and financially unstable. I mean, it's very true. We are very unstable in those aspects but if people stop visiting us, we're gonna have to probably sell our country. Literally. Tourism is our biggest source of income and we are in desperate need of it. Please don't let our instability stop you from coming!
My issue with Shane is that he hasn’t “grown” as a person. His personality still revolves around “oh look I’m ugly and disgusting and poor” which has been his shtick since 2016. I dunno, but his personality feels more like a character than somebody who wants to be taken seriously. It’s just boring now to watch him repeat the same gestures, faces, and jokes😐😐
Yeah it’s getting super annoying. I literally have to stop watching the video to process how weird it is that he has millions of dollars and is saying he is ugly when he looks perfectly fine
I’d feel so dirty going to an award ceremony to thank me for donating money to a charity. Bruh, take that money and put it ALSO into the charity, I don’t need it.
I don’t mind if a TH-camr has money, but please don’t minimize your wealth, act poor, or patronize your non wealthy viewers. Shane: acts poor, but clearly has money. It’s obnoxious. I like him, but not a fan of the “I’m poor” line. Jeffree Star: clearly has money and is honest about how much money he has. I’m cool with it. He has earned it, worked for it, and doesn’t pretend he lives a modest lifestyle or patronize those who don’t. And that’s just his personality, so it works for his channel. Jenna Marbles: the personification of humility. I will never tire of watching her. Ace Family: I think there fast food worker video says it all. They are awful.
It’d be hard to live off more than about 50k a year if I was a TH-camr. You just never know when the gravy train will end, and if you get used to spending a million a year what do you do when you’re making 20k a year at Walmart because you have no other skills?
Jenna does good because she doesn’t try too hard, and she doesn’t try to act poor or rich, she acts like a normal person and that’s what makes her likable
Emma chamberlin: *drinks coffee* Teenage girls: omg i do that Emma chamberlin: *drinks coffee but this time wearing a gucci belt* Teenage girls: i...kinda do that?
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] wearing a gucci belt is an understatement. her insta is full of her, head to toe, in designer clothes. wayyyy past relatable 🤦♀️
I hate when Shane outright says he’s “poor” cuz he’s not obviously... But when he’s shocked by price tags I think it comes from growing up poor. He really doesn’t spend his money quite like other TH-camrs. Jeffree was the one who got him to spend on luxury items.
I think he just means he's not as rich as people think. Especially not compared to Jeffree, Tana, Jake.. etc. He did state he didn't want to come across as "pretending" to be poor because he knows he's not. He just doesnt want to use the money and flaunt. Maybe Im reading too far, bc Im a fan loool 😂 but I guess I get what you mean.
TrulyTaekook he doesn’t make more money that them. You don’t know this stuff. He doesn’t put adds in most of his videos anymore. He does make money yes, but we wouldn’t know weather he is making more money that the people you mentioned. Stop fishing for things you can say to prove your point.
He says “I’m poor when I’m with Jeffree,” not that he’s poor. He’s saying that comparatively to Jeffree, shane really isn’t that wealthy. This difference is especially reflected in the series when they discuss how much shane is going to make from the palette.
He grew up being poor and even tho he isn't, he may feel like he is. He most definitely doesn't mean it in a bad way and it's probably just something mental. He also said that if he admitted to being rich, he'd be scared that it all will go away.
I feel Like Jenna Marbles is the only sincere youtuber i know of that’s down to earth. When it comes to apology videos, other youtubers just say sorry but Jenna oH jEnNA she apologizes like heck (made no sense but o well) home girl made like a forty minute video apologizing for buying the wrong fish tank and recently apologized for reading reddit posts on her and her mans podcast. Not to mention she doesn’t flex and her content is just trying to be happy with her life and spoil the fuck out of her dogs
people think spending money is content
Ellie Scott they claim it as a business expenses
But it is, and i LOVE
It's basically spending money to get it back. It's all about it, that's quite sad actually.
And they aren’t wrong considering how successful “haul” and “unboxing” videos are. I personally don’t care for them but those tend to get the most views. It’s beyond me.
only mr beast can make that work
even the word "relatable" sounds like it's fake now
astrid kjellberg I--
that is so true wtf
That's been the deal since Vine was a thing
Never thought I'd see another kjellberg
SammyPebbles excuse me vine WAS AMAZING even if it wasn’t relatable
everyone's talking about Jenna Marbles, How is she even entertaining? She uploaded a video with the title "Claire's makeover" and that got 6.5 million views, Tell me why would 6.5 million people want to watch that? What's so entertaining on watching someone who's 33! years old act like a toddler by dressing up like a child in a full on claire's makeover. All the videos about is Jenna Marbles buying a bunch of childish stuff from clarie's and giving herself a makeover with it. Where is the "Relatable" in that? I find it so dump to be honest. Even grown adults on TH-cam act like toddlers by the kind of content they still do. It makes them look 3 years old all over again.
I noticed a pattern with youtubers who have remained “relatable” like Sofia Nygard, Jenna Marbles, Pewdiepie etc. are often people who started their channel’s once they were adults and often already in their early 20’s. It makes me wonder if there is a correlation and if having a few years of adulthood and the struggles that come with it have allowed them to remain a bit more humble and levelheaded. This doesn’t necessarily mean that someone who starts their channel in their 20’s is automatically a better person, they just are more likely to understand the privileges that TH-cam stardom have awarded them. But it’s just a thought!
Hannah Koenig That actually makes a lot of sense! Another TH-camr who I think is still relatable is Colleen Ballinger, and maybe it was because she worked so hard as an adult to get where she is now. Maybe it is just a matter of maturity and whether you have been exposed to adult issues…
I think the reality of bills, and the insecurity of changing jobs a few times changes their opinion on spending money, whereas younger TH-camrs who've maybe had one part time job to have extra cash for shopping before they started blogging and then started making a large amount very quickly without ever really having to depend on their savings or being super frugal before.
Really good point! They had already formed their personalities possibly?
The biggest shift you may see is a political shift as seen by Laci Green (left to right), Cult of Dusty (left to right to Communist) or myself split between PorygonFanatics and HammableOfCarthage (Ancap to Democratic Socialist/Chavista).
That makes sense
Haley said they wanted a bigger house for better videos and all she’s done is sit in a lush bath and hydro dip a phone lmao
period
op had to be said
She used to be humble but now she is a brat
Yes because she's going to make 10 videos in one day. To prove that she is going to post better videos.
Amanda i honestly had to laugh about how a HIGH SCHOOL DROPOUT tried to make a video stating her opinions about college. she genuinely forgot her place and where her origins lie.
i think also though it's important to remember that these people have been making videos over the course of several formative years and obviously your personality will change as you grow up like that's life. and blaming people for changing and growing up is extremely hurtful b/c its not really something you can control.
I like newer channels because of the low production quality. The "half-assed' aesthetic amuses me and sadly a lot of channels try to up the quality but don't go far enough to make it good. It's sort of an uncanny valley situation but with humor instead of creepiness
I think the problem with that lack of “relatability” is actually the offensive nature of being so unaware of the situation that 99% people are actually in. Complaining about your mansion and “experimenting” with Walmart or living poor just shows an insensitivity and blindness to your own extreme privilege that isn’t attractive, much less relatable.
Well now I’d like to see a video on flex culture. And how people go broke for ‘aesthetics’. It’s wild 😩
Same
Oooooh yes, please!
Yes!
Yes
Same
I think that shane thinks that being “humble” means acting poor
Yeah it’s almost annoying
When you grow up poor it stays with you, and when you do get any amount of money it feels weird, like you shouldn't have it or don't deserve it. I feel like he's just trying to let people know that he didn't always have this and not flex on them and also maybe come to terms with the fact that he does have it. I mean he definitely missed the mark, but I think that's his mindset anyway
@@gray1648 but he reiterates it so much is very obvious he tries too hard to seem relatable.
he thought acting poor was being humble, not being able shower isn’t cute hunti 😁
Crystal•Builds that’s so true.
girlie it seems like you've hit algorithm lottery
I second that
I saw that too. She was like "my last few videos haven't been getting as many views :/" and youtube was like "i gotchu" xD
Yup
I miss the old youtube when money never mattered and youtube was just like a hobby and not a lifestyle
And there werent 10 ads on a seven minute video and cats like keyboard cat or nyan cat ruled cyberspace
But also really happy dogs are getting appreciated this decade
now people are doing it bc they have pay bills. mostt people want to stop doing youtube but they cant bc youtube is a major source of income bc without youtube they dont havre100,000 of thousands of dollars.
Hannah Plantana u can only put more than 1 ad on 10+ minute vid :)
yes and before the algorithm changed to make TH-camrs have to put out content regularly for them to stay on top. I remember Tomska getting 10s of millions of views and only posting once every six months because everyone loved his animations. He could actually _take time_ to make quality content.
Ikr now everyone is depressed and edits so fucking alike with their relatable tags!
When she started talking about how great Shane Dawson was I automatically thought “this must be from 2019”
shane YAW
YEP
LOL YES
HAHA SAME
I mean even back than. I did not think he was relatable at all.. mostly annoying for complaining so much about all his 'struggles'
The most Jenna has ever flexed, is PR from Crocs lmao
Amber Ingargiola and that’s on PERIODT !
She also shyly brought up that she bought a mansion. Love her.
Jenna is a humble queen and I love that she just enjoys her life and her success on the downlow. She deserves it. Her, Julien and the pups all deserve the world.
Idk, she also really flexed her amazing green screen skills in her blending in with my green screen video.
Iamjellibell She FLEXED her turning into a chevron patterned chair skills, too!
BEING RICH ISNT A PERSONALITY TRAIT
Put that shit on a t-shirt
I've never been so proud to share a name. Lol
Speak for yourself ☠️😂
Unless your Jeffrey Star lmao
(Cough) (cough) Jeffrey starr
Early Jenna Marbles: Relatable
Later Jenna Marbles: Relatable in a bigger house. This is why Jenna is everything
True. The house is just the background and her content is the same.
Jenna is so wonderful honestly
top tier youtuber right there
FACTS
so true, she spends MONEY on making her videos but usually on supplies for crafts or things for her dogs and not on big ticket luxury goods for herself. definitely helps to prevent alienating her general audience while still using her wealth to create interesting content
idk whats worse: being rich and bragging about it or being rich and masquerading as a poor person
Nozomi Tojo masquerading as a poor person in my opinion is worse because it’s like if you are rich, embrace it, be grateful for it, don’t tru to act like you are someone you aren’t. Honestly I’d rather someone brag about being rich because at least they aren’t lying.
@@connersuxx very good point. it's so sinister when rich folks pretend to understand a thing less fortunate people go through
I feel like if your rich you could show your stuff off you worked to get there
definitely being rich and trying to act as if they are poor,if you're rich and earned your success its not a big deal unless if you're one of those kids in my schools or pretty much everyones school who only brags about her parents fame that's very annoying
conclusion is to eat the rich
It's actually super easy to forget how successful Jenna Marbles has been financially because her personality hasn't changed and her content is still down to earth and funny
Kyleigh Caicedo YES!!
Yeah even when her videos weren't great, she never jumped away from who she was - which is admirable. Her views never dropped as a result.
It's all for the dogs; the dogs deserve that house
It's likely very intentional on the part of Jenna Marbles to not flaunt her wealth. Of course, it helps that she usually makes actual content that isn't dependant on milking her everyday life.
a slut for sabrina spellman sorry, but your username 😍 samee
can we talk about how Jenna Marbles, by and large one of the most successful creators on this platform, doesn't even try to sell her followers MERCH
so admirable but so frustrating because I WANT TO SUPPORT MY QUEEN JENNA. BRING BACK THE POP SOCKETS AT LEAST
she talked about this on the podcast another day. they wanna do merch but the companies she tried all flaked somehow and she’s frustrated
She even tells people to unsubscribe half the time, lmao. She never does that "like and subscribe!!!!" at the beginning of the video either, which I really appreciate.
Nothing wrong with selling merch , stop worshipping her .bruh moment
@yall better appreciate hoseok one thing is fishing for suscribers when you're a small, young creator like she was at the start and another one is trying to get ppl to suscribe when your peak has passed. for years now jenna hasn't been fishing for suscribers.
I’d also like to add Cristine, or simplynailogical, she acknowledges that she makes a lot of money from TH-cam, but she encourages education. Like literally holding a contest every year to pay a semester of someone’s college tuition
KatieSzar and Safia and Tyler- great people
Kat Harness 100% agree. Jenna & Julien, Safiya &Tyler, and Cristine & Ben are amazingly down-to-earth
@@ktloowho15 They're basically the holy trinity youtube couples of the internet
Jay Byeon oh absolutely
Cristine also still works her normal full time job as a crime data analyst for the Canadian government.
why is no one talking about how relatable ryan higa is, like he’s an og on youtube and his content is still amazing
OMG yes! And Jenna Marbles, also Jacksfilms! :)
And pewdiepie
Not Gonna Lie yeah he is , but he says racial slurs and hasn’t apologized
@@niyarenetv3467i think he has apoligize for it
TEE HEE
having money is not a personality trait.
🙏
Thank you!!
lol if it was i'd have absolutely no personality.
what is personality trait
It's kinda is
Jenna Marbles is a perfect example of someone who doesn’t let fame get to her head
She's the perfect example of everything honestly.
Kylee Trenton I think she did in as much as she cared less about the fame as it grew and more about making herself happy and having fun. It’s something fairly unique to youtube in general I think, seeing how her success made her into a more genuine person because she isn’t trying to grow a channel anymore. It’s her beautiful plant that she can do whatever she wants with because it doesn’t need careful consideration.
She’s just a perfect example of a good person and youtuber
i agree. i love that she still makes the same sort of content and hasn't 'sold out' at all.
Jenna Marbles just makes me happy at the fact that a person like that exists. It makes me happy that other people appreciate her as much as I do.
"we are literally working at a restaurant" i hated the way she said literally. smh
Yeah. I had to pause the video and stare at the wall for a sec. Like can you imagine being this baffled by the concept of normal people working normal jobs every day.
when?
LiTRAaly
I know it’s spelled wrong
-frances. 9:21
They were like "imagine working at a restaurant lmao"
ughhhh seeing the ace family "working" at the restaurant for "24 hours" made me cringe a whole lot. I currently work part time as a waitress and there was this "celebrity" who used to work for us (bcs the owner REAALLLYYY cares abt fame n publicity) and jesus christ never have I met a person so entitled to themselves before. Basically he intentionally took breaks when the restaurant was busy (the rest of us usually take breaks before or after our shift, but no he just stopped in the middle of the chaotic situation and said "kay im gonna eat lol"), and he told the chef to cook him this dish that takes a longer time to cook, and bcs the chef thought it was for a customer he cooked it only to find out that it was for our dear "celebrity."
Not only did he slow down our work during busy hours by interrupting our chef, he literally took his fucking time eating his food until the crowd died down. And what's worse, the owner always sided with him, literally blaming me for not refilling water that was located outside the kitchen that the "celebrity" was conveniently standing next to when my job that night was mostly inside the kitchen prepping dishes.
I don't care if you're rich or famous. And acknowledging the fact that other ppl would see u differently is important too. But if you start going around using that to ur advantage then ure a piece of shit.
Expose that "celebrity"
duuuude expose that celebrity, we really wanna know
Who was it though?
Who was that
sis spill
My Dad could be a billionaire and still think Starbucks is too expensive.
Edit;; I know it's overpriced lol.
Lol! Same!😂
Ikr 😂😂😂
mood tho
AbbyAttempts
BIG MOOD 😂😂👏👏
saamme
I don’t even know or understand why the ace family is famous
They're only famous for their cute kids and all the drama that's going on with them tbh
@@jadaj4355 I know I honestly feel bad for those kids
When you find out let me know cuz their content seems boring...
they're really boring
@@meowdyllic even when they get involved into drama they do whatever they can to have everyone becoming on there side, they threaten whoever involved them into the drama and say it's all lies, The ace family does that, They do it and still make money off it. They just want money. So that is why The ace family always defends themselves during any drama so that there brand can still stay together for content and money. a fucking disgrace is what it is.
Buying mini mansions, Tesla’s, and going to the Met Gala is def not relatable
paging David Dobrik
lmao i'm saying
Yeah its not, but at the same time they should be proud of what they have accomplished, but yeah maybe not make it the main focus
Still but something that happen in their life are relatable
Sam Serrao since when were david’s videos relatable ?? he’s never been a “relatable” youtuber so it wouldn’t make sense to call him out for having a tesla and a really nice house. tbh he never really brags about having a lot of money
Honestly one of my favorite TH-camrs is Micarah Tewers. She's really fun and charming while also being somewhat educational. Her channel revolves around sewing and her daily life living in her RV.
I love her ❤
*gasp* other micaracans
I love her content, I feel so at home with my adhd self watching her videos and she’s just so cool and awesome
She reminds me of a female Garrett Watts I ADORE her
aahh yesssss, was not expecting to see her name here but am v pleasantly surprised!❤
Everyone seems to have forgotten about Ryan Higa and that’s upsetting.
it's because he has been mia on and off for the past years. I haven't forgotten about him tho ^^
He has done what rich youtubers should do - be done
ok, but bga tho.
River Overland Whos that
River Overland I was hoping someone would comment this! He’s literally the most humble and fun youtuber
simply nailogical and jenna marbles are the queen of relatable and wealthy
also Safiya Nygaard and Tyler
91clarie no. They be doing crazy shit the average person does not do or think about
Destinee mercado but they still acknowledge it
@@DM-lu5lw yea, simply nailogical does a college tuition giveaway every year and donates all her merch sales to the cat cafe she got her cat menchie from. She makes bank but is proactive and conservative about it. Safiya and Tylor dont really flex tho.
Celina Posey omg I didn’t kno that I love that! I kno that simply also has a normal job to so def humbles her
The ACE family kinda reminds me of Marie-Antoinette when she just built herself a village to experience how normal people live
@Welcome To Poppy's World yes she built a mock farm where she would dress up in a silk milk-maid outfit and pretend to milk cows and pet perfectly groomed sheep. There's a reason she was guillotined.
Hopefully they get canceled soon and get to experience first hand how normal people live 😜
/Katarina/ n
Didn't she also say that the people should eat cake if they can't buy bread?
Eline Hoes that’s actually a myth but the idea behind it is that she was really disconnected from the real world and French people, which is definitely true
i love bestdressed as a youtuber because she doesn't pretend to be poor. she talks about saving money and thrifting and things like that, but she also states that she's in a privileged position and cannot relate to a lot of strugges people face, and she's super open about her privilege as well as her issues
@@audreywang3060 everyone changes over the years which is natural. It depends on how you view it. But I still like her. I think she is actually changing for the better because in LA she never got to be her true self. Also, she actually is caring for the pandemic and is just staying in her apartment ACTUALLY being safe so if I were in New York all by myself I would change a little bit as well. But my opinion tho
@@Kiwi-dl3sr agree
@@audreywang3060 i know this is an old comment but it wasn't tone deaf at all lol
@Freedom Fighter dude yea she's made it clear before that she didn't grow up poor and that she's from a small suburban town in maryland. that is not a secret. and if she resells things she thrifts then it's cause she alters them and adds something to it. to say that she's never worked is a complete lie lol
Honestly, Ashley is someone I want as a friend. She is just cool and seems like a fun person
bro the ace family one literally makes me sick, it reminds me of the capital in the hunger games.
Ace family is pure trash
TroyceTV used to get death threats and thousands of dislikes on his videos because he called out their BS years ago. I’m really glad people are starting to wake up. They exploit their child viewers into giving them money
Exactly what I was thinking too
I genuinely think Catherine might be a good person away from austin. Austin is the rotten apple except he’s super toxic and irritating and I think he brings down the rest of the family. I hated Catherine too until I saw a video of her “getting rid of” Austin’s jet ski and then having to use Elle as a shield because she looked scared of his reaction. I think he is really controlling and toxic. Plus she always apologizes when Austin fucks up and she is way too good for him.
@@anikachaturvedii he gives me narcissistic vibes. He seems unable to care about other people but himself and seems to be quite manipulative. I feel for his daughters as they are gonna have a hard time being balanced in the future.
"Guys, we are LITERALLY working right now!" Lolololol, this is the height of being privileged, xd.
I knooow😭😂
germankiwigal “do you understand how cool that is??” No no I don’t
I sell weed (legally) for a living and I say this line to myself almost everyday. It's so unbelievable lol
Shane acts like he's poor but he's literally rich, obviously he doesn't have money like jeffree but he still has a lot of money compared to 9 to 5 workers.
More money than a 9 to 5 worker?? That dudes probably a millionair, he's been at it for years
I wouldn’t say he acts like he’s poor, but coming from a poor family to suddenly making more money than you’re used to, it’s difficult to come out of that “poor” mindset.
Pilar Guerrero hes literally a millionare
Jerom Maat no he isn’t if you see his series with Jeffree star he says how his salary isn’t that high from like from a a bit higher than normal paying job but way lower than other youtubers and ofc influencers too
Shamey Ames I’m talking about their money on their paychecks not what they save Jeffree gets paid millions of dollars as “paycheck” while Shane only gets a few thousand every week
Relatable element of this video - bestdressed earrings
Someone who’s done a really good job of avoiding all this : Jenna Marbles
Hah just got to rest of the vid
And simplynailogical (Cristine) or Safiya
@@jadearchibald9093 hey can we be big buddies
Safiya and Jenna are my faves
@@noladee9057 YASSS
Most relatable : simply nailogical...she has LITERALLY a job with the canadian govt...you know...a regular job like us all 😂
Alexfolledemoi honestly both my parents are diplomats so it’s not that far off for me
@@borednerd5767 being a diplomat is not the same thing has working as a crime statistic analyst.
she also has her own brand now... So, in a way, she has 3 jobs now...
I love nailogical!
Wait she does?
Just blows my mind that so many wealthy youtubers, especially when they didn’t grow up or start off rich, start to take being poor as a joke as if that’s not one of the most stressful and depressing things people go through
Yes it is heartbreaking
yeah. sssniperwolf is a good example of that
gh0st_flowers yesss
rather stay poor than be a class traitor ngl
YESSSS
I can’t stand “slumming for views” ☹️my poverty is not your game
But y'all let them make it their game
@@nah_. who lets them lol they get famous through something unique to them like shane and his conspiracies, but get out of ideas and start running empty on trends to keep themselves afloat
@@therealvlad505 I said what I said
@@therealvlad505 yet they continue to gain subscribers and views..those views aren't from robots
@@user-np9lb1xh7k there not from actually poor people either, there from others who see being poor for a day as a trend too, so we're still not "making it their game"
I find it really offensive when these “influencers” act like it’s gross and sO hArD to work a 9-5 job or do “broke people things” like shop at Walmart.
I love getting leggings and comfy shirts/ pjs at Wal-Mart
Anna Gleason *ahem Jeffree Star*
Kassy Baby lol like almost half of my clothes are from Walmart but I don’t get leggings bc they always seem to be see through from there
@@jrseahorse5886 the ones I buy are patterned and are made out of cotton, so they're softer than usual. Also, the workout leggings are to die for!
i think a lot of youtubers like that never had to work to begin with. they either had wealthy families, or managed to get successful at a really young age so they didn't have to do a 'normal' job.
They do not have to stay relatable, they just have to stay humble
and jeffree, even tho he flexes his money/items, he still is quite humble about it as he shows the amount of work he puts in to get it
Delaney De La Torre you support the racist man
@@ivyrainbitch ppl change.
Charlotte Adam exactly!!! Great wording
Delaney De La Torre
Did you really just say Jeffree is humble? Are you people serious. He’s done several videos about buying makeup from Walmart and Walgreens... where millions upon millions of people shop and get makeup from. He was laughing the entire video and talking about how he hasn’t stepped a foot in one of those places in a long time. He is not relatable at all. You’re just a fan still, so you and many others don’t see it.
I feel like Aspyn used to be in the same category with like MyLifeAsEva, Bethany Mota etc. but now she is married, has a kid, and has just matured way more. She doesn’t try to be the “relatable teenager” anymore(which I am very happy about, by her content is enjoyable and not cringey)
Adison Lopez when she showed the group of people in that category I was so caught off guard seeing aspyns old content, completely forgot she was part of that kind of content! I like her content now. She has been able to mature her content along with herself, cool to see a successful content transition like that
Shane Dawson saying he's poor is like spitting in the face of poor people
I mean i can somewhat understand it. No he isn’t poor but growing up being really short on money i would believe that stays with you. Its a mindset more than an economical shortage at this point. Its pretty obvious he doesn’t use his money nearly as much as he could and he still seems very humble regarding his fame to be honest. Nevertheless he’s not poor and shouldn’t claim to be so but he can still be overwhelmed by others wealth without meaning any harm.
@@bitchmaffia9956 idk man, buying a mansion in LA with land around it, having multiple expensive cars, buying gucci stuff just for fun, getting a huge bouncy house, goats, dogs, a trampoline, a coffin, renting a whole ass child, ect. That's a lot and I personally couldn't afford a single thing I mentioned :/
Achy ka 🤣🤣🤣trueee
It's only really in context to him having a lot less money than someone like jeffree star, he knows he isn't poor because he has been in the past and joking around about it with for example jeffree star isn't a big deal as long as you remember the difference in their financial situations and get that's what he's referring to
He already addressed this in a video
I feel like the fact that Jenna has a Masters degree in psychology would keep her not only grounded but aware of her actions as she knows how her actions affect others at a tertiary level.
Also explains why she took the fish episode very seriously, I love her so much for how professional she is when it comes down to it, a lot of youtubers and online personalities lack that rn
YeeHaw what happened with the fish all i know is she apologized for something
sapy i think she bought the wrong size fish tank or sum?? but she made a 30 minute apology about it and that fr shows how much she cares and takes issues seriously 🥺❤️
And she also has a "P H D in life" I think she said things to do with your degrees. It's a few years ago.
@@nicolovespanda IIRC she got a spherical tank not a rectangular one
jenna marbles, safiya, and simply nailogical don’t get enough credit for constantly putting out enjoyable quality content
I love safiya, she is really down to earth.
Quality is subjective. Playing with your dog or giving them a haircut, etc isnt exactly quality. I think people watch jenna because they like her
@@reecee2488 it isn't high quality like saf video where she goes into detail but it's exactly what people need Jenna to be. High quality video where you can shut down your brain and just enjoy it. It's low effort to absorb what's been told but it's high quality in that it's not filmed on a potato and doesn't give motion sickness
they do get enough credit lol, do you see jennas and safiyas views? Idk bout Simply doe.
@@reecee2488 I mean that is what quality content was on TH-cam when Jenna first started and lots of people still like that kind of content
Joanna Cedia is literally such a great TH-camr. She's studying physics at University and is really humble.
I think that one of the reasons that she's so great is that she hasn't lost sight of the ground. She prioritizes her personal life before youtube, and consistently releases creative and entertaining content.
My favourite TH-camr
My fave youtuber, so sad what’s happening to her rn
I LOVE HER SOOO MUCH
Anyone who loves physics -- especially astrophysics -- is fine by me . I say congrats to her 🙂
it’s wild because even watching jenna’s new house video just elicited feelings of pride and happiness for her. maybe because she’s been around and “in my life” for ten years and it’s like watching your hardworking big sis get something she deserves...or maybe because it wasn’t about how big and fancy it is but just the fact that they were proud of getting to own a home for the first time, together. idk but jenna is just so sweet and mindful and self aware and it’s easy to celebrate her successes with her.
I feel like what Jenna spends her money on is what *I* would spend theoretical money on -- no matter what my income is, I'm not going to wear Gucci slides, because I feel like they're ugly and wasteful.
I would ABSOLUTELY buy a crateload of Halloween costumes for my 17 dogs.
The mansion is okay because we all know it's mostly just for Kermit.
Jenna is so humble. You're right, she's like a big sister that deserves so much.
@@nessapie8407and watching her videos you probably don't really even think about how much she spent on them. The money spending is just a catalyst for her content, it's not a part of the content itself
@@mmybickers i think that's a huge part of her popularity and appeal to millennials. like she's achieved the real millennial dream; not of obscene wealth and fast cars, but a nice well-lit home with her supportive partner where she plays video games and does weird shit and has a bunch of pets and plants.
Mmy Moon it’s because u need a lot of space to help yuor cermet grow
Haley Pham always bothered me bc she used to “make fun” of the type of girl she has now become.
Unrelated but that profile pic 👏👏👏 ||-//
Damn. Reminds me of the short story Flowers for Algernon. Highly recommend you guys read it!
YES!!
She tries to sound so intelligent but is far from it. Has so much growing up to do!
StarBellySneetch⭐️ I’ve read that!!! It’s rlly good
i'm just sitting here eating chips and liking all the comments that i agree with lmao
Penny literally same
Popcorn here
Penny literally me
So relatable!!!
Same
I think Cody Ko is really underrated in this sense, he's extremely popular and likely makes a ton of money yet he still makes the same kinds of videos and doesn't really ever talk about his wealth
Ditto for Noel
He and Noel still have not apologized for the offensive things they have said, and have doubled down on them occasionally. I would rethink your position on them.
I think “you’re not relevant anymore” would be a very good video concept
Yeah! I was scrolling through Zoella's Channel and her views have increasingly dropped. She went down from 1.8 million views on one video to 4.6k(ish) views on one video. I was really shocked.
check out Hadassah Cordoba. She has done that video series in a great way
yes watch Hadassah! i loveeee her videos!
Logan Paul, jake paul, zoella, ricegum, Alisha Marie, and lastly Roi juice guava juice roi
Angelika Oles already has a series like this, its called "road to irrelevancy"!
the moment I realized Emma wasn’t relatable anymore was when she made a video with the Dolan twins and James Charles where they shopped for each other and they all spent like at least thousand like it was nothing
some day she’s still not funny or relatable so
i have never watched a vid of her the only thought that comes to my mind is balloney from Phineas and Ferb
Is everything about money in your lifes? Like wth
honestly now she doesn’t put much of her life with her friends on youtube, she seems more relaxed and like a weight has lifted. when she was with the dolan twins and JC, she almost HAD to be the “newbie to LA” who should be spending all their money and making original videos. but now she hangs out with her friends in private and doesn’t put it all on youtube. she also seems to have got her stuff together now. she has her own apartment and goes to the gym/ has a good diet/ spends fine with her parents/ etc. she also has two days, which sound silly to say, but she’s given herself some responsibility. honestly i think by the fine you become as popular as she is, it’s hard to be the same “relatable” person as you were 3 years ago. she lived in her moms house and then in an apartment with her mom she got stalked and it wasn’t safe for her (she had money and that made her a target for crime and stuff). not here to be sucking up to her i just think that sometimes it’s hard to be the same as you were 3 years ago when she grew up 😊
And do you want her to not spend her well earned money just so you guys can feel good about yourselves
Safiya Nygaard for me is one example of someone who got really big really fast but is still the same low key person and very relatable.
I wanna say I agree, but I honestly can't get past the wastefulness she protays to get views. Like buying every candle from B&BW? Really?
@@nm541 But she said that she was gonna use them nevertheless. Perhaps she gave some to friends and family and use the rest. I may be wrong but she seems so sincere.
I still like & sometimes watch her, but I also take issue with the amount of cheap unethical products featured in her videos.
It def is wasteful and as someone aspiring to be in the environmental field its not ideal. However i am interested in the content and enjoy her personality
@@nm541 there's a flipside to that argument that safiya really invests in her videos. you can tell she comes from a "content producer" background, her stuff is always well made and she's usually got several videos in production at the same time. i think she spends that money knowing it's a good investment for her channel, she understands that it's a business and a brand.
i don't agree with her spending so much on unethical produced stuff like on Wish, but at least with her makeup science stuff she ends up giving the end product back to her subscribers in giveaways
this comment is probably so random, but you have such a 90s face. like your face reminds me of actresses in the mid-late 90s, i love it
Alicia silverstone!
She reminds me of kirsten dunst so pretty
@@EnglishwithCarla I though I was the only one.
She looks kinda mature, like in the 90s faces seemed more mature than they do today
Now I see it, and I can't unsee it. I see a of Kirsten Dunst and Jennifer Aniston from circa 90s in her.
james charles: changed his personality and continues to become less and less relatable
jenna marbles: the same relatable dork she’s always been even though she’s gained money and fame
Not to defend James because I do not like his actions, but you are more easily led astray when you have such a meteoric rise at such a young age. Still not cool though!
Jenna Marbles id definitely depressed. She looks like shes given up on life, and her content reflects that. She also snaps at Julien on their podcast and takes things way too personally. She should just quit YT if she gives no fucks, but I guess she loves the money.
Queensocks you’re her therapist then yeah?
Queensocks ok boomer
Queensocks “I guess she just loves the money” have you even seen her latest video? What are you on about.
I love Shane but he should rlly stop saying he’s poor.
@@JoHarryDaddee why? Haha 😂 Iove Shane too tho
Jo Daddee but he’s not especially now
Omfg your profile pic caught me off guard 😂
Robert Rodriguez i feel like he only says that around jeffree because he doesn’t have as much as jeffree does.
Yeah like he has sooo much money and him saying he’s poor?! Like damn tf am I?
i wonder how long it’ll be until they realize skipping college and banking on your “youthful relatability” isn’t a sustainable lifestyle/career
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] I feel like this is a subtweet at Olivia Jade 😂😂😂 lmfao
Kyleigh Caicedo haley pham also
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] In their 30-40 after they will quit TH-cam and all that TH-cam money and fame will be gone they will remember how stupid they were to not go to school or at least learn a skill to be able to sustain their lives for not just a period of time but forever
especially in this era where you see tons of new TH-camrs emerging, trying to be popular, the old popular TH-camrs will realize how irrelevant they have become
You never know times are changing..
And it’s scaring me.
your third eye was really open when you predicted the fall of Ellen
your third eye immediately rested with Shane and Jeffery tho
LOL
Ellen has been known to be rude for years... People just glossed over it.
The ace family acts like everyone can afford a gym in their house
Why did I first read "the acne family" - -
@@ZombixMix the asscheek family
Well most normal people can have a couple of barbells and some small stuff but normal people don't have full blown machines and stuff
GG Marie Yes. That's what she and Drew already pointed out.
why is no one talking about ryan higa literally the most down to earth youtuber ever
THANK YOU I was searching for a comment mentioning him
Yessssss nigahiga was my first favorite TH-camd back in the old TH-cam days
I love him so much for being original til now
RIGHT!!
Tbh, most Asian content creators who are successful from TH-cam moved on to another venture or are super lowkey about the wealth they possessed. Idk if it's a cultural thing but so far Asian creators like Wong Fu, Anna Akana, Ryan Higa and RHPC, JK party, and family vloggers (they're a lot) to name a few don't exactly strike me to have this whole "not relatable" issue.
You know you lost touch with reality when being poor becomes an internet challenge.
I’m honestly tired of this whole “relatable and quirky” trend I’m so over it 😐
Sugar No Milk ikr like pleasee😩
ikr like who cares if it is relatable or not
And they r not relatable or quirky ... at all.
Lindsay’s Fairytale ikr I’m getting bored cuz now everyone is doing it and it’s getting overdone at this point
@@claraperez6299 Because it's dishonest. That's why ppl are attacking Shane and David Dobrik. Because they pretend to be relatable.
I love your videos. They’re always intellectually stimulating!! It’s the type of content that’s interesting without being pompous which is rare on this platform !!
READY TO GLARE love your videos too
Your content is great as well. And different to what others do.
Love you!
my two favorite female youtubers!! luv that 🖤
Iv been binge watching your videos lately love ya
“We are _LITERALLY_ *_working_* right now.”
Why did they think their followers would be so shocked to see them... doing work.... for one day ....
2 hours*
This reminds me of bunny aka graveyard girl hiding her mansion, closet and cars bc she didn't want to flaunt. As a longtime viewer I was surprised that she's basically living a double life
@@user-wp5cf4uf3b same here, but I think it also felt weird that she was actively hiding it.
@@strabababerry It's her private life that she doesn't have to share with us and choose not to until the Shane Dawson series with her.
@@GhostBritt of course! She doesn't have to openly explain all that she has now, I just felt it was weird how she so actively hid it.
strabababerry yeah like tiffany said, Just don’t obnoxiously flaunt it/flex on us all, don’t try to lie to people or hide that shit and say that you’re not rich. That’s just being disingenuous..
@@randomalienfrommars0567 I think it would only be disingenuous if graveyard girl pretended she was poor, and pretended she didn't live in a mansion? Like, atleast IMO there's a difference b/w hiding something b/c you just don't want to flaunt it, and purposely hiding it *in order to* push forward a completely untrue agenda (i.e "pretending to be poor"). i haven't seen graveyard for a hot minute, so ignore me/correct me if im wrong lol.
Jenna Marbles is such an excellent example I think. We know she's rich, and that she has a great house, etc- but she never for one second makes a point to show her wealth, but that doesn't mean her life is a lie, right? idk idk. pls ignor me lol
I call that The Zoella Effect
She was the first one to suddenly get absurdly rich as a teenager and went from Primark hauls (extremely cheap clothing store here in the UK) to suddenly making tours of her £2M mansion
Zoella is one of the least likeable people on TH-cam, I don't know how she gets views.
primark is the best honestly 😔✊
Mate I'm rolling in it and I still mostly shop at Primark, I'm not paying more than a tenner for a pair of damn jeans
@@siameseame no...cheap ofr sure...but at the expense of exploiting children in third world countries
I like Primark for pajamas and sweatshirts but damn, the jeans in Primark break so easily, it's not even worth it
You were on the Ellen train waaay before everyone else was.
Jenna Marbles and Simplynailogical are 2 youtubers who though they are rich, they are SO down to earth and act normal and do not flex unnecessarily.
dumbbrowngirl and the content is always enjoyable I love them both
Kailani Capelouto ugh same! Every video is funny of theirs
simply is the loml
cristine and ben take such a mature, level headed approach to the whole youtube thing that's so rare on yt. sometimes it feels like they're the only adults on here hahaha
and cristine has a job outside of youtube as well!
i honestly like that at least jeffree star KNOWS he isn’t relatable AT ALL and doesn’t try to fake it...
Haha true jeffree wil always be honest lmao 😂
@@itsleaax You're beautiful.
101sanford ur beautiful so spread positivity ❤️
Just here to comment His racist comments for sure put him back on earth and walking with the rest of us, in my opinion.
just me should people live in shame for something they’d apologized for on multiple situations? Or move forward trying to better themselves.
queen of staying relatable despite immense success is jenna marbles
She's still so down to earth and so humble. The best thing about her is her ability to accept critisism with grace and take accountability and apologize meaningfully when she makes a mistake. She is just such a great person.
She's the only one I feel people can actually relate too, like most of her videos are staying at home and just doing funny stuff, unlike others.
She's a BABE
@@dangernoodle9961 yeah, her apology for her goldfish was way more genuine and sincere than all those other 'apology' videos combined
@@permanentstateofawe6544 she and Julien also apologized for reading r/nosleep posts on their podcast when they didn't realize it was not allowed and it's also a very good apology. No theatrics. No manipulation. Just "this was shitty of us. Don't defend us. We are so sorry and we are doing everything we can to make this right with the authors, and we've taken all the podcasts down."
You aren’t meant to be a brand. You are meant to be a person. Its hard to watch TH-camrs and celebrities turn themselves (personality, like-ability, daily activities) into a show for people to watch and buy into. Dangerous game.
Especially when you are young and media savvy. Learn to live life without an audience.
It’s okay to create but keep it separate from everything you are.
I literally watched Haley Pham transform in front of my eyes. she used to be really cool and had good content then boom she got pretentious as hell and started acting all high and mighty
now shes taking a prestige dude who at 16 got a tesla for his bday or smth. She also apparently lives with him lmao
i know you commented this like a month ago but i relate so much I had to comment. Yea EXACTLY, i used to love haley's content and her personality like when she had this cute song at the beginning of he videos. Also her school vlogs were so funny and relatable. I totally understand what you mean by she transformed in front of my eyes, like it was gradual but suddenly her videos just seemed detached and a show off of " look at how PERFECT my life is, #relation goals # model etc and you can really see her trying to put on the act of relatable girl but its so hard to watch.
actually Ryan Trahan did not have a Tesla at 16. He worked RLY hard to get it. I also think that Haley STILL has good content and is not "all high and mighty" just my opinion.
Sophia this isn’t true at all.. he just bought a tesla a couple months ago because he’s a successful youtuber and he’s 20-21 i believe. and she bought a house on her own with her own money
@@cookwithkids3765 Same, I love Haley and she talks about how she saved fro over a year to provide for her mom. She even addressed the fact that she had changed and was focusing a lot on views. In my onion she is back to her old self now if not just a bit more mature. Also with the house thing, they work film and literally spend so much time in their house so they might as well invest in a house that are going to stay in. I don't know I'm kind of going on a rant right now.
The ace family is so annoying. Their entire channel is flexing
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Honestly, the thing that bothered me the most about the Hayley Pham trip thing was how she criticized Greece so harshly as if it was an amusement park. We should all know by now that instagram is extremely fake. Its kind of offensive knowing that every single place has it's good and bad things, doesn't matter if I'm Greek or not. Not everything in Greece looks like Mikonos ok? The lack of respect and fake expectations really hurted us man
I just came back from Athens yesterday. I loved the country. Even with stupid ignorant influencers and their audience, there are still so many people in the world who will actually do some research and get their own opinion. Everybody I know thinks highly of Greece, whether they've been there or not :)
@@rocioosunabeltran9227 aww how wonderful! I'm glad you liked it. My favourite place in Greece is Lefkada (where my family's from)
@@sofiamitchell5314 I was only in Athens, Hydra, Poros and Egina but everything was wonderful, from the people, to the food, to the landscape and hospitality from locals. Loved every bit of it ❤
@@rocioosunabeltran9227 ah yes! We really try to be kind to tourists because there are so many and we love how much they actually appreciate Greece. :)
Sofía Mitchell I agree. It’s Hayleys fault for planning the trip to Greece wrong. Like it’s not the country’s fault she had a bad trip, it was her own fault lmao. She even tried justifying to not go to Greece because they’re economically not doing well. And I’m like so? So what? Doesn’t mean that you won’t have a terrible trip lol
I’ve worked medium wage since I was a sophomore in high school and after watching this, I’m honestly so grateful to have that experience. I couldn’t imagine dropping out of high school to be a TH-camr and never even being able to relate to working a day in your life
Keep waiting for SimplyNailogical to get mentioned,
-Still has a day job
-Still Totally relatable
-Biggest flex is custom shelves made for her extensive nail polish collection
And she even has a nail polish line which is something she actually cares about and makes money from (great products if you love holo) and yet STILL encourages her younger audience to stay in school and work hard
I personally don’t like her videos anymore because she doesn’t do much nail art anymore, but she’s honestly a good person and was a good role model for me when I was in middle school, struggling to keep my grades up. She cares for what she does and puts her everything into it and that’s amazing
and she can acknowledge how youtube has made her alot of money without bragging
SpookyBread the fact that, “she doesn’t do nail videos anymore” is a meme on her channel cracks me up
same! she's still the same person, doesn't try too hard,and actually earned her success yet doesn't like to go brag around or tries to be "relatable"
I love how she's wearing besstdressed-Ashley's earrings!
Was just thinking that!!!!!! I wasnt sure tho so pretty ahhhh
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO MENTION ASHLEY IN THE COMMENTS ! I just think Ashley does a good job of being relatable and acknowledging the privileges she has had in life, while not discounting the hard work she's put in to get to where she is. She's so down to earth and sweet and even if she spends ungodly amounts on clothing (which she also acknowledges bc it's a part of her job) and travels and goes to events, she's still just big sister Ashley and talks about boys and being a girl in America and growing up and periods and stuff
@@maqicool I absolutely agree. I saw, how her channel grew, and I think she definietly "kept" her relatability, because her new money didn't change her personality at all.
😍
@@maqicool Yesss!! She still seems authentic. And even though she buys alot of clothes, she goes for style over just flexing luxury brands. She loves Reformation but still doesn't go crazy shopping their clothes.
I hate how Shane acts like he is still poor when he’s literally making millions.
shane still feels relatable because of his personality though and he doesn’t exactly flex things much
Same, like if Shane is poor then what am I
@@gnarlyghoul3203 This is the dumbest fucking comment I've ever seen. I love Shane, I've been watching him since 2009. I was there when Bree, Kat, Steve, Shanna and Britt made up his 'squad'. I bought one of his ugly 'Shane is my boyfriend' shirts from Hot Topic when they came out and have bought his movies on iTunes. I also bought a subscription the second his podcast went to Fullscreen. I mention all of this to convey the fact that I love him and support him, but he is not fucking poor. I cannot believe how fucking stupid and cringe-worthy his new wave of fans are. Don't get me wrong, I am so happy he's gaining traction and am ecstatic that he is so popular right now, but holy fucking shit are they all ignorant sheep. Just because he doesn't have the physical currency (he probably does) to show for his fortune doesn't mean he's poor. It's hilarious that someone would even try to defend Shane in regards to the subject.
EDIT: Also, he's not fucking poor compared to other TH-camrs. He just makes jokes about that. In contrast to Jeffree he definitely has less money, but that's because he's a tactful businessman, who's miles ahead of your traditional TH-camr. Shane's level of wealth is in no way relatable or can even be considered poor, even at the comparison of other TH-camr's.
Y’all he makes poor jokes (or at least did before the conspiracy palette bacame a huge success) because, while he had nice things, he was in serious debt for them. He’s been upper middle class for awhile, but not rich. Even then it’s his personality that makes him relatable, not his bank account.
Yes!!
simply nailogical is a good example of someone who is rich and relatable
Shane Dawson’s only personality trait is “Being bRoKE” yet he is LITERALLY a multi-millionaire. Let me repeat that, MULTI-MILLIONAIRE. The cognitive dissonance that is required for him to even utter the words “I’m broke” is just...... whew. Can’t even imagine.
Chloe Wiley He has been poor for most of his life though. He only learned to really start spending more money (buying gucci etc) recent times. He still wears worn out shirts with holes in them, drives an old ass jeep, etc.
He generally only talks about “being broke” when he’s comparing himself to someone waaaay wealthier like jeffree.
I agree he sometimes says it and I go like “shut up” but I get why he says it.
Chloe Wiley He’s also a pos. That psychopath/sociopath pseudoscience “documentary”?? YIKES
Those videos were before he became a multi millionaire
The thing is as much as people live Shane they can’t deny he’s gotten a little bit out of touch lately
His personality lives in 2014 ......yikes
I see u repping Ashley’s earrings 👀👀 we stan a bestdressed fan 🤩
Sanjana Hiremath omg yes I noticed that
yes i noticed lmao
I noticed and was searching for a comment like this #bestdressedfans
i was literally thinking about her channel when i saw this comment 😹
Talk about a relatable queen
If I suddenly earned a lot of money, I’d definitely buy nicer things, move into a bigger house, etc. I think I’d be a bit hypocritical for calling someone else unrelatable for doing it. I think it’s a bit simpler than that. My theory: These people were always unpleasant. it’s just becoming more obvious to their audience the more they share about themselves.
I completely agree with you. It is hypocritical, and even then why is it so important for everyone to be relatable in the first place. It is bothersome if they still “act relatable” so I do get that. As someone who has grown up very very poor, it shouldn’t be competition of who is the poorest/ most relatable or deserving of nice things.
I don't think that's what it's about... It's not that that's unrelatable, like if you take Jenna Marbles, yeah she lives in a big house, has 3 dogs and buys a lot of useless items to carry out all of her weird videos... but people still enjoy them! It's because the essence of who she is as a person hasn't changed. She's still loud and funny and weird and people click with that because that's who she's always been (imo she's actually even gotten better with time because she's stopped giving a shit about whether or not her videos are going to fit the algorithm/be well received). It's more like if your content has always been relatable and people like you, and then you make a crap ton of money and this completely different lifestyle is suddenly your main goal, but you're still pushing the relatability thing - that's annoying. Not because you can't be proud of what you've got, but because that's all that matters to you anymore and you've lost touch with an audience that was primarily interesting in you because u were "just like them". Then it gets worse when and they can't tell why people are complaining about how entitled they're acting, or make weird "you changed" videos
i think that’s not the point of the video, there’s nothing wrong w making money, just that a lot of people let it affect their content in a way that’s detrimental to their original brand, creating a disconnect that makes them unlikeble to their original viewers
I like your theory of "they sucked all along"
If that's what you do after getting a lot of money, then you're bad with money.
am I the only one who watch youtubers just because I like to watch them and not because I want to relate to them.
Right?
Right?
Exactly
That’s complicated. Most people don’t do it consciously. There’s a few different reasons we follow creators and influencers: they make interesting content, they make content you can relate to and/or are themselves relatable, they have lived you can aspire towards, or they have the type of personality that your friends typically do.
Honestly!
Antonio Garza is beginning to quickly lose her relatability.
I know, recklessly buying a Tesla before she even has a license... yikes
And that video she took following Emma Chamberlain around Whole Foods while playing some immature song...
Yep she is relying on that TH-cam money to keep flowing in but if she continues down the path she’s going she’s going to be broke before she realizes what happens. Hopefully she can turn it around.
Fluffy popcorn I mean Tesla’s are somewhat affordable
@@lizabeller *He....that's clearly not a female.😂
But her thing is being quirky not relatable, she is funny and weird but I don’t think she wanted to be relatable
haley phams boyfriend is so chill and it sucks that she’s not at all
ryan trahan is such a chill dude I could watch his videos for hours on end but i never really enjoyed haley pham's content :/
I really like both of their content
Tbh
Mary Waters i likes haleys dance content when i was like 13 and then it went down hill very quickly as i started watching her
I used to love watching Ryan’s videos but it seems like Haley kinda changed him tbh. Idk maybe that’s just me tho
Right after Haley’s complaining about her vacation, I completely unstanned.
edit: she apologized for her behavior lately and it seemed genuine so she’s ok for now! acknowledging your mistakes is growth, right?
Yes yes yes
"Ugh this place doesn't look like all those instagram pics 😭😭"
to me it was as soon as she moved out, the first couple of videos were still really good, and then slowly she just changed and I couldn't watch anymore..
same
I was kinda sad when she got really popular because I liked her, like right before she blew up on social media, and inspired me as a dancer, but now... :/
I do think that Drew Gooden did a great job covering how TH-camrs often get famous for being relatable and then they lose their relatability and become less likable with that. That being said, regardless of Ellen's behind the scenes personality, I watched her "Relatable" stand up special and it was hilarious because of how absurdly unrelatable it was.
No one:
Shane Dawson, while walking around in a mansion: ugH I'm so pOor
That is his marketing scheme. Why do you think he goes around wearing the same raggy shirt and shirts with holes on them? Especially when he is earning millions of dollars through the palette launch? It's all a strategy to seem relatable.
I feel like this is kind of what she was talking about in her last point. How he’s unrelatable but still somehow relatable. I think it’s because of his personality and how even though he’s obviously rich, he doesn’t let it change his personality, in my opinion at least...
@@gabrielle6307 nah, he obviously cares about the money. There is a reason Shane didn't include any drama or "tea" in his documentary (esp when he was teasing it in his trailers). He and Jeffree don't want to bring out controversial stuff that could ruin the palette sales. The series was basically an advertisement of the palette that was hours long.
my fridge needs to be refilled well that is what the video was about and also to show what went behind in making the palette
When he says he's poor he himself says it's not poor as in broke but poor as in not making as much as Logan Paul or jeffree or the other succesful TH-camr out there...and he doesn't indulge in too much expensive things until recently...I don't think there's anything wrong with people spending what they make..we watched their content and gave them our time and views and they made money out of it..now u can't dictate on how they spend it.
The only point I disagree with is that Jefree isn’t trying to be “relatable” when he’s eating Burger King, Taco Bell, etc. He just really really likes fast food
Megan Ealey I think she met that in comes off as relatable not that he’s trying to be
Megan Ealey 100% Jeffree has ALWAYS LOVED TACO BELL
I agree I lost think that he is more relatable to a certain audience but not like the way of his lifestyle but the way he think and acts plus a lot of his audience watches him because he is funny and entertaining and for his credibility on make up that doesn’t mean they watch him solely for him being relatable
Megan Ealey ya I also think jeffree doesn’t try to be relatable at all. He just wants to show how far he’s gotten by working his ass off and being an entrepreneur. Aka he flexes. People watch him pretty much solely because of that, and because of the emotional shane content (which does make him emotionally relatable).
Megan Ealey and he’s not relatable just bc he likes greasy fast food either. It’s not relatable to eat Burger King in his private jet that’s ridiculous. Donald Trump eats McDonald’s everyday and he couldn’t relate to a “poor” upper class person.
I'm a deaf subscriber and I just wanted to say thank you for putting custom captions! they help a lot, also love ur videos!! :)
Omg that's so cool.. not the deaf part..
I'll shut up now
I'm not deaf, but i rlly dig too because I have issues with listening
@@gabb5 lol
@@soy6505 it's beneficial for everyone!
@@Kellieirvinn yea! i tried to email Jubilee Media and get them to put subtitles (for deaf and HoH ppl) and they totally were like "no thanks"
i feel like youtubers who do are so much more respectable than ones who don't cus it seems they actually care about and are proud of what they're producing enough to make it accessible to as many ppl as possible.
I'm pausing the video on the Pham part to say this. As a greek person, i am angry she said people shouldn't travel to greece because we're economically and financially unstable. I mean, it's very true. We are very unstable in those aspects but if people stop visiting us, we're gonna have to probably sell our country. Literally. Tourism is our biggest source of income and we are in desperate need of it. Please don't let our instability stop you from coming!
i am really saddened about what happened with syriza. i hope you are doing well, and can continue the labor struggle.
My issue with Shane is that he hasn’t “grown” as a person. His personality still revolves around “oh look I’m ugly and disgusting and poor” which has been his shtick since 2016. I dunno, but his personality feels more like a character than somebody who wants to be taken seriously. It’s just boring now to watch him repeat the same gestures, faces, and jokes😐😐
thats why i dont watch him anymore...its just annoying
This has been apart of his shtick since he started posting to YT, so its been about 13 years now.
I think his poor childhood had an impact on him that being rich hasn't taken away or he at least acts like it hasn't?
Yeah it’s getting super annoying. I literally have to stop watching the video to process how weird it is that he has millions of dollars and is saying he is ugly when he looks perfectly fine
Yeah self-deprecating humor is hard to watch. Like please, Shane, love yourself even just a tiny bit.
the ace family, THE CRINGE OF IT ALL
On god 🙄😴
I’d feel so dirty going to an award ceremony to thank me for donating money to a charity. Bruh, take that money and put it ALSO into the charity, I don’t need it.
Its past cringe. We deep in narcissistic territory.
The cringe is you caring about what they do when you don’t like them 😂
Daniella Hunt Catherine the plastic ex escort and Austin the money hungry creep are the epitome of narcissistic
I don’t mind if a TH-camr has money, but please don’t minimize your wealth, act poor, or patronize your non wealthy viewers.
Shane: acts poor, but clearly has money. It’s obnoxious. I like him, but not a fan of the “I’m poor” line.
Jeffree Star: clearly has money and is honest about how much money he has. I’m cool with it. He has earned it, worked for it, and doesn’t pretend he lives a modest lifestyle or patronize those who don’t. And that’s just his personality, so it works for his channel.
Jenna Marbles: the personification of humility. I will never tire of watching her.
Ace Family: I think there fast food worker video says it all. They are awful.
It’d be hard to live off more than about 50k a year if I was a TH-camr. You just never know when the gravy train will end, and if you get used to spending a million a year what do you do when you’re making 20k a year at Walmart because you have no other skills?
Jenna does good because she doesn’t try too hard, and she doesn’t try to act poor or rich, she acts like a normal person and that’s what makes her likable
Oh I’m so poor like wtf Shane
jeffree has done some bad stuff in the past.
Jeffrey Star has earned money by knocking off his competition by making sick strategies against them lol
beauty gurus: I SPENT $3,000 AT SEPHORA
me: feels guilty for spending $50 at sephora
Emma chamberlin: *drinks coffee*
Teenage girls: omg i do that
Emma chamberlin: *drinks coffee but this time wearing a gucci belt*
Teenage girls: i...kinda do that?
heyitsjoshco [Josh Ocampo] wearing a gucci belt is an understatement. her insta is full of her, head to toe, in designer clothes. wayyyy past relatable 🤦♀️
Lmaooo
Nerys Ellis and what about it? sis is making that bag and she doesn’t owe it to you to be relatable
Francesco Muttini I never said she couldn’t wear designer clothes, or that she had to be relatable i just said she wasn’t anymore lmao
I hate when Shane outright says he’s “poor” cuz he’s not obviously...
But when he’s shocked by price tags I think it comes from growing up poor. He really doesn’t spend his money quite like other TH-camrs. Jeffree was the one who got him to spend on luxury items.
I think he just means he's not as rich as people think. Especially not compared to Jeffree, Tana, Jake.. etc. He did state he didn't want to come across as "pretending" to be poor because he knows he's not. He just doesnt want to use the money and flaunt. Maybe Im reading too far, bc Im a fan loool 😂 but I guess I get what you mean.
Meg R i mean, jeffree was homeless at a certain point of his life and look where he is
TrulyTaekook he doesn’t make more money that them. You don’t know this stuff. He doesn’t put adds in most of his videos anymore. He does make money yes, but we wouldn’t know weather he is making more money that the people you mentioned. Stop fishing for things you can say to prove your point.
He says “I’m poor when I’m with Jeffree,” not that he’s poor. He’s saying that comparatively to Jeffree, shane really isn’t that wealthy. This difference is especially reflected in the series when they discuss how much shane is going to make from the palette.
He grew up being poor and even tho he isn't, he may feel like he is. He most definitely doesn't mean it in a bad way and it's probably just something mental. He also said that if he admitted to being rich, he'd be scared that it all will go away.
I feel Like Jenna Marbles is the only sincere youtuber i know of that’s down to earth. When it comes to apology videos, other youtubers just say sorry but Jenna oH jEnNA she apologizes like heck (made no sense but o well) home girl made like a forty minute video apologizing for buying the wrong fish tank and recently apologized for reading reddit posts on her and her mans podcast. Not to mention she doesn’t flex and her content is just trying to be happy with her life and spoil the fuck out of her dogs
Her and Ryan Higa (NigaHiga). Love Ryan's videos!
she apologized for W H A T 😂😂
Empress Stewart actually Jenna did flex on us. Those glow in the dark crocs.
Shenbiibi Raumpaul you right you right
I absolutely love Jenna Marbles and I haven't read a better description of her!
The "Flex culture" all around, not only on TH-cam is disgusting to me.
Seriously. Like stop?
It's worse now