The MLM "Girl Boss" Narrative is a Lie
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0:00 - intro, what is an MLM?
2:20 - shout out to today's sponsor, Amino
3:15 - why would anyone join an MLM?
3:47 - the perfect "Boss Babe" life... aka how MLMs target women
4:15 - moms and military spouses are often targeted
5:14 - whoops I left this title up for way too long but it's not worth it to go back and edit it bc exporting and uploading takes forever BYEE
5:25 - MLMs are predatory, often specifically targeting lower income people
5:54 - MLM starter kits: business investment or huge financial mistake? distributors have to buy their own stock, and hit monthly quotas to remain active
8:10 - MLM sales strategies. Build a team, so you can earn commission from everyone below you
9:21 - message EVERYONE you know, and invite them to your facebook "business" page
10:30 - MLM parties + my first experience with MLMs
12:32 - shameless sales tactics. guilt-tripping moms for having jobs outside of the home. taking advantage of lonely people by inviting them to MLM girl boss squads under the guise of friendship
15:23 - more insidious marketing tactics, such as buying followers or otherwise artificially inflating your success in your "business"
17:11 - what about MLM products tho? are they worth buying? are they good quality?
18:15 - what happens once you're deeply involved in an MLM? your relationships probably will suffer.
19:30 - the upline relationship is inherently exploitative. they tell you, if you aren't doing well, you're not trying hard enough!
20:45 - the perfect boss babe life is a LIE! let's talk MONEY. how much do people in MLMs make?? we'll look at some income disclosures. spoiler alert: the majority of MLM distributors end up breaking even or losing money.
25:22 - MLMs exist only to enrich the small number of people at the top. at worst, others end up with unsellable stock, in extreme debt.
27:44 - MLMS are a major scam and they ruin lives. but I understand, people take risks when they're desperate for work. Please try to get a legitimate job instead of wasting your time, money, and energy on an MLM.
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Remember, if you have to purchase to start working, you are a customer, not an employee.
It's also kind of like when you start your own business. You pay for inventory, innovation, etc.
It just depends on how much and realistically how fast you can get your money back. I've had to pay for security card to work in a poker room (expensive) but made it back quick. Same thing with uniforms, work supplies. Unfortunately though a lot of the mlm companies charge jizload for crap quality products to the employee/sales person/sap who then has to try to sell it for then more jizload.
Oh and the annual fee which only is to cover "membership" is ridiculous. I can pay for products cheaper, sell cheap, still make money without paying "membership". But what most popular mlms do provide is the advertising therefore easier to get customers....until you're competing with a huge amount of employees for the same customers for the same product....
Elizabeth Morales Not the same at all.
I did hate it too when businesses I worked at- stores and restaurants- made me buy my damn uniforms, then return them. I understand why, but at the same time, if I'm making $6.25/hr, it does seem pretty miserly. (But I was probably the only one nerdy enough to return these items, too..)
MLM - "moms losing money"
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Damn it. Thought the same thing before seeing your comment. Lol
its funny because it's true
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“Girl Boss” makes me cringe. Like why not just boss? And why “girl”? Such a demeaning and cringe term
boy boss 😌✌🏻😎😏🥵
Look up Girl Boss on a channel called The Take! It’s really interesting
Hehe True, I see 5 year old when someone say GIRLboss.
It's meant to prey on the "girl power" mentality, to lure women in with the promise of self sufficiency and screw them over financially and socially.
@@chrismorris6865 yeah most definitely. But they are talking more abt how its weird that women can’t just be bosses, they have to be GIRL bosses. And girl is an infantilizing term to use for full grown women. It’s just a strange term to choose to use as it isn’t empowering, but rather quite the opposite.
“Did you kill that guy?”
“No that’s impossible murder is illegal”
Such an apt comparison lol
I actually laughed out loud. Thank you 🙏🏼
LOL! You made my day!
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the only valid MLM is "men loving men"
VIH positive lovers
@Big Wee Wee Man - No, Marxism is an even bigger scam than MLMs. At least millions of people don't die in MLMs.
Big Wee Wee Man and that’s on facts
Marsettic Please...stop linking reddit outside of reddit.
Aww.
I escaped a MLM just by being too lazy and antisocial, I watched a presentation and was like "that sounds like too much work and social interactions, nope, pass".
Yep llka sadly that's why most people earn nothing as they are too lazy and we don't get paid for doing nothing. ..hard work didn't scare me so I worked hard. Mortgage nearly paid, don't have to work now and travel the world ...I'm not too lazy to get the things I want but at least your honest x
@@saffytara7929 😐
Saffy Tata wow a real life mlm member😳
ha, relatable
Saffy Tata
How tremendously condescending of you. I'm sure Ilka works hard at what she's passionate about. No shame in not putting effort towards selling worthless crap. You need to hop off your pedestal.
I was 14, an MLM had set up a booth at the local mall probably thinking they could get more customers. I was in high school, and I drifted off away from my mother when she was shopping, I caught the attention of one of the sales people. She somehow coxed me, and proceeded to put make up all over my face, and at first I liked it. I asked how much it was she tried to sell me everything costing up wards to 140.00 dollars. Trying to find any excuse possible Im like "my mom wont buy this", "I cant afford it". She said and I quote "just take your moms master card and use it--its fine". I was told to legit steal! My heart sank, mom works hard every day at her job, and for this lady just to make a quick buck was manipulating a 14 year old, still boggles my mind to this day.
Girl, bye! 😂 I’m sure you’ve gotten conned out of sex by boys at that age, and you still dated after that. Y’all kill me 😂😭
EPH Lifestyle, inc what does this even mean
@@EPHtheChemist since you care so much about honesty on the internet i'm sure you won't mind disclosing how much money you made from network marketing by selling to actual customers vs selling to other distributors or hosting classes? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 or if you're even making a profit and aren't still in the 'losing hundreds/thousands of dollars a month' stage but still convinced you can make it for some reason 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 also really good at marketing yourself with your 757 total views across 10 years of posting 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 how's that Positive Thinking 😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄 leading to Positive Results 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 working out 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@EPHtheChemist ok look, i'm just going through a tough time rn and i took it out on you, i'm sorry. i still don't agree with mlms but that's not an excuse to act the way i did.
@@princeofbohemia that sounds more like the apology they should be giving you, not the other way around
Calling themselves “entrepreneurs” literally destroys me to the core of my soul. They are sales agents. That’s all. Coming from someone who has built a brand from the ground up, it’s so fricken insulting to hear these clowns calling themselves entrepreneurs.
What’s ur brand?
Brooke Evans I am the founder of a skincare brand, and I am pleased to inform, it is not an MLM LOL
Sugarholic Sheep I can’t imagine anything worse. LOL I’d rather die than ever wear or sell such disgusting And garish Looking clothing. The people that wear them look like three-year-olds that got themselves dressed
you're totally right entrepreneurs own their own businesses so why change the words around because other people are close-minded?
Honestly!!! I hate when they say they own their own business... like no, no you don’t. Or “I’m my own boss” like no? You report to your upline aka your BOSS. Like I get it. The dream of being your own boss, working from home, making good money from your phone, owning a business, BUT this... this is not the way.
I find the phrase "girl-boss" to be condescending as heck
Amy Trevaskis agreed.
I heckin agree.
Yes! It's annoying
IKR! A female boss is still a boss, not a girlboss.
I don't mind the term girl-boss, I just hate when it's misused like for mlms. At one point it was actually empowering especially with the rise of female entrepreneurs.
"Boss babe." Cringe
1234OTAKUANIME I prefer boss bitch as I'm a boss AND a bitch.
Yes!!
@@elleelle9048 I prefer to be called by my name. I'm the boss, but I'm not a bitch or a babe or some bird or a chick or girl. I'm a woman. I'm not you're girl. I'm not sugar or honey. I have a name. People have a way of instantly getting under my skin with this and then wonder why I don't like them. If they can't remember my name, they could just ask.
"lone wolf" 😂 cringe x100
@Chaos Burrito I'm from London originally. I've found Canadians and Americans use these familiars long before they are in a relationship/friendship/on terms with me where that would be a appropriate. It's like nails on chalkboard. I find strangers touching me less offensive and I don't particularly like that either.
The best one I've ever had was about 2 years after my son passed away. A girl from school messaged me saying she was sorry to hear I had lost my boy. I thought it was odd as I didn't know her other than from sight and we were never friends or acquaintances. Next message was "you seem like such a strong person with what you've had to go through, you would be a perfect fit for our community of tough boss babes making their lives better" the fucking audacity
So disgusting how they prey on this kind of situations.
Very sorry for your kid, condolances
I’m so sorry for the cruelty and for your horrible loss 💜
Sincere condolences for your loss. This is truly disgusting behavior.
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I'm so sorry you lost your son. I hope you are healing as much as one can.
“Do YoU rEaLlY wAnT sOmEoNe ELSE rAiSiNg YoUr KiDs!?” - asked to dad’s precisely zero times
I realized MLM stands for multi level marketing but for like half a minute I thought you meant men loving men and I was very confused
sksksksksksk same
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Ain't no girl boss when there ain't no girl.
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diydyke me too lolz
I love my old classmates hitting me up about Paparazzi jewelry when I am a jewelry maker/designer. I just respond with my website link.
My boss once went to a party for something like that. She's been in the jewelry business for 17 years and warned the friend who invited her that everyone going was aware of her experience. Her friend insisted, and when my boss saw earrings being sold for $30 that she knew cost less than $0.50 wholesale, she put down the catalog, and everyone noticed. No one bought anything.
That jewelry is so cheap looking & ugly
Haha *you* are the actual boss here!
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Excellent response! Best wishes on your success. I'll have to look up your brand🙋🏿♀️
Lol. Right! I'm a jeweler too. Though I don't own my own business yet. I can literally custom make anything I would want. But next time ask them to buy some of your pieces and they can sell it at their next party. 😂
I remember when I came out publicly as a trans dude, my cousin messaged me with all this support only to end it with a suggestion to start selling her MLM product because "i'm so brave and it shows that I can put myself out there and be a sales person". Like thanks I feel so loved
so sorry you had to deal with that :(
ANd it was probably for make up or some other feminine shit, too? LOL. Like, "Yeah, I just came out as a transguy and clearly do NOT like this feminine shit, but yes, let me sell some more feminine shit to females, while transitioning to male, in a world where honestly most companies or enough hiring people are transphobic to some extent. While I'm at it, can I be your bridesmaid and go dress shopping?! And be your surrogate if you can't get pregnant???"
MLMs seem to cause people to turn every relationship into a transaction.
Thats some new Kind of f*cked up
Thats some new Kind of f*cked up
The only successful direct sales with quality products are Girl Scout Cookies tbh
So you’re telling me that Girl Scouts is an MLM training camp??? 😱
Facts !! Lol
except you are not buying the cookies for the cookies.. it's one giant guilt-trip isn't it
Also from my experience in the Girl Scouts it’s teaching the girls how to handle money, budget, work ethic etc. That and it actually can go towards the troop (ie a trip to camp or a theme park or even getting a sash or vest for the underprivileged troop members). However this is just my own experience.
@@hgzmatt as a Girl Scout, it’s not a guilt trip as the money goes to the troop so we can do activities. Obviously as a older girl it’s harder to sell cookies cause I’m not a daisy anymore I’m a cadet. I hate when people shit on us Girl Scouts like for what?
When I was 16 I was at a SLEEPOVER at my friends house and her mom tried to sell me skincare items.
LMAOOOO
even worse bc you can't just like, leave and go home when you're at a sleepover! how did you get rid of her?
DasDudu I just like....accepted her little brochure things and told her I’d think about it. She gave me stuff to give my mom too lol
What did I just read!?! :o
that sounds like hell honestly
These also target immigrants. Heavily.
Herbalife and Amway prey on Latinx people. Amway also has this weird habit of trying to get Hispanic recruits to convert from Catholicism to Pentecostal.
@@Jaxxie1981 Latino. No one uses latinx and it's a little disrespectful. Saying this as a latina.
@@so7780 It's literally just an inclusive term, nothing disrespectful about it. I also know of plenty of hispanic people that do use it, so I'm not too sure what you're talking about.
@@glitter404 Inclusive perhaps but you gotta take the big picture in. The term latinx makes no sense within our gendered language and it just seems like americanization. Trying to change our language for a few recently created people. If people are really that offfended by a gendered language it seems to me that the language isn't the problem here.
@@ThatKillerQuote mhm. I know they mean well with it but it just makes more sense and is MORE inclusive if you use the regular latino or latina (latinos in plural) as it includes more peeps and isn't trying to americanize our culture more than it already currently is right here in the States.
The dentist I was working for said she was having a “party” for us.... we all showed up and she was just trying to sell us essential oils. We already work for her everyday... what more does she want from us lol
Amanda Crump
Why does a dentist need to make more money by side hustling essential oils?
Amanda Crump wooooow 😑😑
This is hilarious 🤣🤣
This is what confuses me... I know a LAWYER who is selling Monat. Like GIRL- you have 2 whole ass degrees! This is why I’ve been consuming anti-mlm videos like crazy. Trying to understand- is it ignorance or malice?
I'm sorry! Lol! But this made me laugh so hard!!! Bajajajja
one thing i've always found extremely suspicious about MLM's (i'm older so i'm talking even pre-internet) is the strange religious undertones that so many of them seem to have. i'm not an atheist but still i fail to see what jesus has to do with making money. honestly or otherwise.
Yeah, that’s kinda why MLMs are super big in Utah 😬
They are very cultish. Many of them have a leader who is worshipped in a Christ-like fashion. My in laws were deep into Amway. When they got "deprogrammed" they admitted that they'd lost about 45,000 in 3 years. They're garage was full of products. I don't think they ever sold any, but by buying them, they advanced their position in the organization.
Because MLMs are cultish in nature, and people who are easily manipulated by religiosity are perfect targets for the religion angle if the other tactics dont work.
@@MeowCatTrio Lo
High demand religions, fasc tendency abrahamic religions, and corporate cults/MLMs all have the same skeleton
When a close family member passed away, I was telling one of my moms friend how sad I was and how isolated I feel. She asked me, “do you have friends you can talk to?” I said “yes, but I’m not feeling very social”... she said that I should talk to my friends.... and that they will talk to their friends... and that we can all start selling this shampoo that she sells and brings up every conversation. I thought “wow. You’re a shit person. Here I am at my lowest point, I thought you were here to console me and somehow it ended up with you trying to slang shampoo”. These MLM people are brainwashed and it’s disgusting
Yeah. I had family die and family in the hospital this past holiday season, and a "friend" tried to sell me life insurance through Primerica. Totally disgusting. No longer a friend.
This is so sad! So sorry for your loss, and so sorry that you two went through this with them!
Disgusting.. I wonder if they're really brainwashed or just shitty people. Or, maybe they got themselves in debt buying these products, that now they're so desperate and they would just do anything to sell some..
Eva B. I believe it’s the later. No one starts being an insensitive prick (though there are exemptions), I think the change is gradual, depending on their desperation and size of the whole they have dug themselves in.
Where is your mom’s friend these days? I just wanna talk...
When MLMs are specifically sold to men, they tend to talk about entrepreneurship and being lone wolf CEOs, even though the scam, I mean...business proposition....is exactly the same setup.
I actually got this same thing "proposed" to me once, but they were calling the head of the "company" a mentor. It had all the same MLM concepts though
They really try to alter this shit to drag you in.
@@chloeschmidt7884 So Guy Boss?
yup, i've seen some ads for "start your own drop shipping business" -- not a scam in and of itself. but at least the way i understand it, the drop shipping market is pretty oversaturated now. if you wanted to get in on it you should have started like 2 or 3 years ago. but now there are people offering all these master classes that cost like $500 or something, and those opportunities do seem to be more directed at men for some reason.
My dad got involved in one of these and I remember being 9 years old and getting dragged to events at fancy hotels where some guy would show us his Mercedes Benz and spew out motivational speaking bullshit. I'm pretty even at 9 years old I realized that it was all too good to be true
I almost joined an MLM when I was really low on money and studying. I had ordered the starter pack and just talked about it to a friend with a stupid sell speech. That very night, I woke up feeling like a trapped animal, full anxiety attack, I deleted everything at 3 am and called my poor friend telling her: it's a scam, it's a scam, please forget everything I told you earlier. Gut feeling saved me on that one!
good that you realised it in time, many people don't. These things pray on vulnerable people.
My sister in law has just joined an mlm, and there’s no talking any sense to her. She’s so engrossed in the thought of earning thousands a week. Even her own mother is buying her products “supporting” her. She’s got a 1 year old, so she’s a prime example of the type of people they go for. It’s hard to watch her fall down this hole, I just hope she realises before she loses too much.
Have you tried sending this video to her x
@@mulanarmanisaffron891 it’s alright, she’s quit now! She came to her senses!
@@harleyoliver8913 god bless x
@@harleyoliver8913 You know what this is, Growth.
You are, and I cannot express this enough, NOT an entrepreneur if you work for an MLM. You don't own your own business. You are a salesperson or recruiter. I know so many people who fall for these scams and call themselves entrepreneurs and it just makes me sad for them because I've never actually seen it work out.
I just think it's really super degrading and offensive to, oh I don't know, ACTUAL entrepreneurs! lol.
I could not agree more . My friend who has been an Arbonne consultant for 3 years calls her business an “international business “ . And keeps posting about the perks of running her own business . Like girl did you create the products and pay for packaging , warehouse fees , accountants ... etc .
Exactly, I tell people I sell Mary Kay, I don't have a business. I have permission to sell their stuff but mostly just buy my favorite stuff at a discount 💁
YES THIS. It is so offensive to people who actually did establish and do run their own business from start to finish. The main thing that gets me is that these MLM ladies never seem to understand the difference between being a predatory sales rep, and being the person who is actually taking ALL of the risk and putting everything on the line for their business. Yes, entrepreneurship has lots of rewards, but also lots of risk. If one of my customers has a problem with my product, I am the person responsible. I am the person who has to fix it. If I have problems with a supplier or something, yes, I can "blame" them but ultimately the buck stops here. I'm the person putting blood, sweat and tears into my company, I am the person driving everything, from strategy decisions to branding, messaging and sales to accounting, good business practices, CRM, supplier management, quality assurance, etc. etc. etc. I can outsource some of this work but the responsibility falls squarely on my shoulders. And when it works, it's AWESOME. But it's a FAR CRY from MLM sales rep recruitment. And it's so offensive when these MLM ladies compare the two like they're one and the same. Entrepreneurs do not call their businesses a "side hustle"
Worked for me though . Follow me on Ig you will see @tomrivas
Every time I hear the term "girl boss" I cringe. Yes I, an adult woman, strive to be referred to as a "girl".
idk,,,’woman earner’ doesnt look as lit on a framed, vaguely pixellated pinterest quote...
I’ve heard “lady boss” too but it’s not much better in my opinion lmao still cringy
Yess
why cant it just be 'boss',,,, i personally see it as really condescending
It says a lot that I wanna puke on coffee mugs that say "girl Boss!" or "Boss Babe!" but I'd 100% buy a "Boss Bitch" one
I have a very distinct memory of going to “jewelry parties” with my mom when i was about ten and i’m realizing this is probably what those were 🤔
100%
Could it be the Nice brand?
Same!! I thought it was just shopping at home and really cool ha
I remember the jewelry parties era! I still have a gold plated bangle from one. I have to be honest, it’s actually a quality piece and has lasted a veeeeery long time without any signs of wear and tear.
Lia Sophia?
I volunteer at a thrift store and we’ve been getting loads of Lula Roe that we can’t sell because it’s too ugly. They’re all brand new with tags but we just hand them off to places that give them to people that can’t afford clothes. We literally can’t sell them for a few dollars.
My sister is a single mom and has fallen victim to SEVERAL MLMs. SEVERAL!!! I didn't know what MLMs were at the time, but when she explained It Works, I immediately thought pyramid scheme
Do you watch party trick astrology
madison j yeahh haha
Natalie Becker recognized you from the 8th house video. What a small world lol
Everyone involved is a single mom lol
YES! A friend of mine started working for it works! She messaged me about writing a status and I said sure, why not? How bad could it be? And then it said something like LOSE 90 POUNDS IN 3 MONTHS?? CONTACT MY GIRL (insert name) FOR MORE DETAILS!!
Incredibly annoying. I left her on read.
I hate the terms “boss babe” and “girl boss”. If they’re so feminist and female empowering, why not just say boss? I don’t want to be a “girl” boss. I want to be a boss and be take seriously.
If they're so feminist and female empowering why don't they stop exploiting moms who are drawn in by the unrealistic prospect of working flexible hours from home, while looking after the kids and having a great network of supportive mom friends and using female empowerment as a guise.
Then don't be lazy and do what a man does, start your own business with your own money... but thats too much work for you so you become a girl boss babe kween that you can do with no work.
me, misunderstanding the title: “gay and bi men are a scam?”
Jdjvoencov me too. I keep forgetting what mlm scams are and getting confused when I see the acronym.
Im a gay guy who KNOWS what "MLM" means but whenever I see it I get shocked or confused for a second before my brain starts working
ME TOOO
Yes. We scam str8 people by making them think we are one of them.
- A Gay 🏳️🌈
I once accompanied a friend of mine who had just gotten to Germany and didn't know the language to a job interview with a lady who tried to sign her onto an MLM. It didn't take long to realize that she specifically targeted vulnerable immigrants who were having difficulty finding a job because of language barriers in order to benefit from them financially. It was horrible.
If you have to pay a fee to work, that should be all the red flags you need.
It's genius because the mlm don't have to pay any benefits to their sellers because they technically are not employees. Avoid all those pesky benefits like retirement and healthcare and have an army of unpaid employees to sell your overpriced products. Genius .
Someone tried to get me into an MLM once. Luckily I knew about MLMs and turned them down repeatedly. But the way they tried to sell this, is by saying that you basically get your own business where you sell stuff, and any retailer would have to buy their stuff from wholesale first as well, so it makes sense (not what I think, but how they explained it). Any additional fees are even less than most licenses and the likes you would have to get! (Again, their words, not mine) But you don't need to worry about branding, making designs/logo/housestyle, they'll even train you on how to sell your stuff, etc! If you start your own job, you would have to do all of that youself and pay for it yourself (I'll just keep repeating that these are not my words and I don't believe in this nonsense). So they sell it as an investment in your own company, which would be smaller than the investment you would actually have to pay if you started your own company.
Of course, all of this is nonsense. If their product is that good and sells that well, it would just be in stores being sold by normally paid employees. Because you're not actually starting your own business. Which business starter has higher-ups to pay monthly fees to?! You're an unpaid employee, who somehow has to pay to be allowed to work. That's the reality. But they don't frame it like that. That's why no alarmbells go off for the people who fall for this.
By the way, the person who tried to recrute me, later confessed to all their friends for having fallen for an MLM, having lost a lot of money due to unsold inventory, and she confessed all her beautiful stories were a lie, because she was so desperate to get out of debt. Which, of course, never happened, as she couldn't sell nor recruit enough. I did buy sime things off of her when she was still in the MLM, as I felt bad for her, and I actually happened to need the household products she sold. I still have some of them. They were actually good products. Just overpriced, which made them hard to sell. I know, I shouldn't have spent money on an MLM product. I was one of those suckers who just felt really bad for their friend. If this ever happens again, and they won't heed my warnings again, I'll just wait for the bubble to burst and then try to help them find an actual job instead. I think that would be a better help.
Spongebob paid Mr Krabs $100 an hour when he started at the Krusty Krab and that worked out for him in the end. So not always...
I owned a business. I had to pay to work. All the time. In fact. I had to pay out more and more the bigger we got. More legal fees. Contractors. Taxes. So. Not sure on the logic of this particular criticism. 🤑🤓☠️
siomai Cape away
The amount of disabled girls and women I know who were roped into doing MLMs by their nuerotypical facebook "friends" makes me sick. it's unforgivable.
Yep. I dont know how the people on my friends list got pulled in- but theres one girl whos clearly been sucked into a few of them. I know she has chronic illness problems and many people in her family are disabled. So i get the impression she cant manage a full time job- certainly loads of other chronicly ill people cant. Its super exploitative. Whats frightening is i had no idea about the details of these 'companies'? I just avoided them cause i really didnt want to go into marketing
My little sister has ASD, I'll send her this video. I forget how predatory others can be. Makes my blood boil
lildeerling
Yes! I have seen this a few times. So predatory.
I'm disabled and I feel I dodged a bullet few times
As a young woman diagnosed with a chronic illness as a kid the amount of "friends" I have had that have tried to use my illness and the promise of miracle cures (seriously?!?) to get me to either join their scam or buy their product is disgusting.
I had a hub tell me to “borrow money” once.
I asked if I could borrow from her, if she was making $6,000 a month & then I would too she should be good for it & know I’d be good for it too.
She called me “b@tch” & blocked me
something tells me she was less than honest about making $6000 a month
Looove this!!!!!
This is genius!
Smart!!
Great idea
My daughter is visually impaired in her left eye and I’ve had people use that against me... it’s sick.
Damn those r some disgusting souls
I'm so sorry these predatory bitches did that to you.
"You're hired! You don't have a salary, and you need to pay hundreds or even thousands of dollars to start your new job. Congratulations, Boss Babe!"
"And there's no resume, job interview, or background check to make sure you're a halfway decent employee. We're totally legit even though being a cashier at McDonald's has a more selective hiring process than us!"
Unrelated but HOMESTAR RUNNER!! ⭐️
@@TheSameYellowToy mcdonalds is a franchise like mlm companies are lol. Paying hundreds to start isnt good. Most franchises you have to buy into though but i no longer need to work so if your willing to put the hours in then its good. Didnt cost me a penny to join
@@saffymccabe7705 There are differences between a franchise and an MLM:
-You need a business license to run a franchise. You do not need one to sell for an MLM.
-With franchising, you are not the owner of the whole corporation, but you do own your own LLC. I used to work at Subway, and all Subways are franchised. Not once did my paychecks ever say Subway on them, they said my forner boss's (the franchise owner) company on them. My former boss does not own Subway, but he owns a small company that allows him to be able to own Subway locations. An MLM salesperson owns nothing except the products they bought from their upline.
-There is no pressure to recruit or have a downline in franchising.
Mish Kish , "the Sub" is the perfect "dream job" for the guy who just finished his "business administration" degree. He could have just looked for it after high school.
my mom is literally becoming a MLM and I'm scared... doing research for her now and gonna do a presentation on it for her.
Good daughter. Save her from herself.
rennie??? omg haha
my mother is too. ive tried to yell her whats going on bur she doesn't care. i don't know what to do.
I'm glad my mom is a physician lol
did it work? because I want to do the same someday
the amount of "boss babes" popping up because of covid hurts my heart but is also SO DAMN ANNOYING! Really not interested in ur 30 day detox.... loved this video as usual!!
The two most terrifying words in history: "Hey girl!!!"
I've been contacted my MLMs but I never realized they were real people, I thought they were bots lol. Always sending these super awkward texts with too many emojis. Wild.
kitsterangel it’s cuz they’re scripted
kitsterangel this cracked me up
They copy and paste their messages 100 times so it makes sense that they’re so robotic
right??? I always thought they were bots
i think they look so robotic not only because the messages themselves are written in a non-human way, but because those people also never chaintext, it's just one big wall of text, which bots usually do
Excessive use of “hun” is an automatic tip-off that it’s an MLM. 👍🏻
Danielle Russomanno or “hey girl!”
And the emoji usage
princessprosecutor or hey girly!
And babe
or hey girlfriend
I did gymnastics as a kid and my coach was involved in an MLM. She would make us drink her MLM shakes and take vitamins etc. This way if we liked it we would convince our parents to purchase it from her for us. Pretty messed up now that I look back at it
🤣🤣🤣
😯😡
It’s really lucky that (hopefully) none of y’all got really sick from that.
That coach is messed up as hell. If she wants to sell for a company, fine. But she shouldn't be promoting it to her gymnastics students.
I work in a Starbucks in a mall, and right outside our corner in the food court, for a couple weeks a bunch of mlms set up stalls right outside and it was just absolutely fucking hellish. They weren't even done setting up when one of them came in and tried to recruit me (while I was working) to go try some skincare products. Obviously I'm on the clock so I can't be like "you're a scam, go away". Those two weeks I saw some serious Karen entitlement too.
I watched a lady try to full on recruit one of our SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD baristas and I literally had to step in afterward and let her know it was a scam.
As a matter of interest how did they get in there with their stalls and how did you get rid of them?
@@RalphMaver to my knowledge they just paid for the right to use the spots. It looked like a temporary setup, so when they left we weren't surprised (we were very relieved, though!)
can we talk about all the "influencers" who live in Hawaii and try to sell their followers $2000 water "purifiers"
This!!! I have friends in Hawaii, i knowwhat you mean lmao!!!!
tiffanyferg YES! Like literally using your influence over people who clearly look up to you and desire the aEsThEtiC dReAmY life you portray on social media to manipulate them so you can make a profit is the ULTIMATE SCAM
*TH-camr Merch enters the chat*
Crazy people
Who? 😳
Wanna make $50+ a month? Sell some junk from around the house on eBay, FB marketplace, Etsy, etc. Or go to yard sales/thrift shops once and a while and resell it online. Better than any MLM....
That's what I do!
If you have junk to sell, you gotta have money to buy those junk at some point.
I think she's just trying to say if you have the money to start and MLM then you probably also have junk around the house to sell. Or invest that money in something that will actually make you a profit instead of these scam MLMs
@@ellie7646 most people have some junk at home
Exactly. Shop cleverly in thrift stores and resell much much better. Sell anything you get for free or is useless in your house
Tf i didn't even know all this "boss babe" and "girl boss" was about these mlms n all😭😭😭😭😭 i just thought they're some encouraging quotes for women and girls who're working hard to become financially independent n stuff😭😭😭
Yeah me neither! I used to use those hashtags in my IG posts because I legit thought it was full of entrepreneurial ladies, not MLM. Never again!
It's sickening how they prey on vulnerable people. I was approached when I was also on my lowest point, the person you thought was a friend comes along saying they will listen to you, you feel a short relief for a while, "wow, there's someone by my side right now, maybe I'm not alone", and them they start talking about the MLM scheme. Such a betrayal. It really hurts when you're already depressed or traumatized.
yeah, so true.
Well I guess the answer is to just make my own MLM and be the very top of the pyrami- I mean business
Athena Kohrmann sjhsjsksjsks
I know someone who actually did it lol now he acts like a cult leader
Thats what alot of Instagram "entrepreneurs" do
My husband and I joke about that all the time. My family is full of mlmers so we would be rich! Easy targets lol
Athena Kohrmann Hahahaha
I cringe at the phase Boss Babe. Its sounds ironically sexist and degrading. Why not just Boss? What does me being a girl have ti do with it?
Well put
Not to mention that babe is douchey
There is nothing more degrading than this term - Attempt to celebrate being a boss while also qualifying that you beat the odds and accomplished something while also being a "girl" "babe" "mom" . Take a look at real female executives, they never, EVER, would degrade themselves by calling them self or someone else a "bossbabe"
Sophia Amuroso (Nasty Gal) is making a killing with the phrase now. 🙄
ikr
Reminds me of Pursuit of Happyness where Will Smith’s character buys a ton of those machines and has to sell at least one a month to pay rent.... really sad and insightful film
The only redeeming part of Facebook is the private group "Sounds Like An MLM, but ok"
By turns hilarious, enraging and just plain sad. It’s a great group.
lol I'm in this group too
Haha I’m apart of that group too
I love this group
Some military bases had to ban MLM parties because of all the drama they were causing. The wives were basically outcasts if they wouldn't join, and it was causing a lot of tension. They're so cult like, creepy stuff.
American Made I’m glad some bases stepped in and helped. I wish more entities would
Random Woman I wish they did this back then when my grandpa was still in the military. My grandma was one of the military spouses that ended up in an mlm (Avon) because of the fact they didn’t have a lot of money to spare (they had to live paycheck to paycheck especially when my grandpa was overseas). I guess what got her in was the fact that she was the main one raising my mom and two uncles, especially when my grandpa had to spend a year at a time in Japan and other nations.
Happened at my ex husbands base. Literally ALL his friends wives are hun bots and they were pissed, posting on Facebook trying to send their followers to complain. Kinda funny to be able to watch from a far now that I don't have to play nice.
That is so messed up
Happens on my base 🤦♀️
my sister calls these people “hun bots” adjfkls
Hahaha
The male ones are called “Bro bots”
Lol @ hon bots 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Buy my oils SWEETIE
LOL "consistently encouraging" is such a sweet way to say "bullying and manipulating" XD
These MLMs love targeting teachers too! I’m a teacher and I get messages all the time about: “oh I know you need to make extra money since you’re a teacher!” “You’ll probably make more than your lousy teacher salary. Lots of teachers pick up a side hussle! Hey, since you have summers off this can be a good summer gig for you”...and so forth!
Also, men are targeted too, but the approach is a little different. It’s about providing for your family, or starting your own business working with “real professionals”, gaining a mentor and being able to mentor others as business owners, etc. A lot of them hold meetings (“parties”) at cafes or hotel banquet rooms/conference rooms and wear suits and ties and stuff like that. It really is a trip!
When you realise that Tupperware and Avon are examples of MLMs 😳😳
At least tupperware got a quality product tho. >.
Well maybe it used to be a quality product. I have two family members that sell it so I have received a heap as gifts as well buying some either from a feeling of obligation or early on I believed it was good. I'm slowly getting it out of my house as it is breaking. And even though it is technically under lifetime warranty, you have to pay to have it replaced. So I'm spending the money on cheaper better replacements.
I get the feeling your comment was probably sarcastic but couldn't be sure.
I've never been dissatisfied with tupperware plastic. You do you tho. Ain't nothing I care to stick my nose in.
Avon is the worst as a "work place" i know my mom did it for a year as a side job but she wasn't agressive enough to do it because she didn't wanted to bomb everybody with it so she quit. But what i really wanted to say is that it is a shitty job but some of the products are pretty good. I mean not for everybody. But for example my skin is very sensitive and the best product for it are avon products and it's the same with a lot of my family members who gave sensitive skin. So i know it's a shitty thing what they do with their employees but i still have to buy from them because their products are the only good products for me.
And i am so sorry that this comment ended up being soo long
I remember a Tupperware "party" at home when I was probably like 5yo or something...
It especially bothers me when MLMs try to guilt moms with that “do you really want someone ELSE raising your children” line. Both of my parents were military, so I had an after-school nanny growing up. My mom was still the one who raised me!! (AND she was a huge role model for me bc she was an AF pilot and I thought she was such a badass lol.)
At 26, I’m still close to my old nanny and consider her a surrogate aunt
This is what’s been nagging me the most. Advertising being home with their babies and guilting other moms who work. I know ultimately it was my decision to join an mlm. I’m the one to blame. I was 7-8 months postpartum when I joined. I was a full time nurse working nights. It started affecting me so much that I could not be home with my son. All the constant posts and stories just kept making it worse. Specially my own coach who was a “ retired” nurse. Eventually my husband and I decided I went part time and I’ve slowly opened up my eyes to their lies. Specially seeing that they have to be on their phones 24/7. How in the world are you able to tend to your children when you got to “hustle” all day? I never ever cold messaged anyone. That just put me off from the get go. The last call I ever attended was a “top coach” that said you have to message 60 people everyday. She also swore so much that a lot of people starting logging off. Most of those moms that have their kids around also listening to what’s being said.
My whole life would be complete different if my mom didn’t work. She also inspired me to be independent and not rely on husband’s money. What I always remember when she said “I dont need my husbands’s permission to buy stuff”
I had nanny too but doesn’t mean my mom is less of a mother than any other mom who stays at home.
Don't know, both of my parents were working when I grew up and it was more or less my Gran who raised me. So for me my Gran was my mother figure more than my mother ever was or will be (my father died when I was 12). I have more of a friendship or sisterly relationship with my mom. It's okay for me though. I don't fault her or anything. Most families have to have two working parents to make ends meet nowadays. It was a big problem for my mom and there was s time when she tried to force the issue. Didn't work. She doesn't get to dictate the way I see her or my Gran just because she birthed me. She just wasn't there enough to look at her as a mother. It took a long time for her to come to terms with that. But that is the risk if you decide to have children when both parents have to work 🤷♀️
That doesn't make it okay to guilt trip moms, however. The world is not kind to parents or their children as a whole. It's not their fault, it's just life.
Stay at home moms are extremely rare, almost nonexistent, where I live. Sending your kids to daycare is the norm. And honestly, part of me feels like that's BETTER for the child. I get that you want to be with your kids, however in daycare you not only learn a bunch of stuff but you also get socialized from an early age! It's basically like a playful pre-preschool. Though I also see some Americans even complaining about schools and opting to homeschool their kids instead...... No idea how tf that works, and it seems like it would negatively impact the child's social development.
@@KreeZafi But it's hard when you are in the US that doesn't has maternity leave. I study psychology and my professors said they wouldn't recommend mothers to put their child into a childcare facility before the age of one. I'm German and we have maternity leave (up to three years) and you can't put your child into Kindergarten before the age of one. So it all works out quite easily here.
Honestly, I can’t be bothered to be my own boss, I’m happy to just do my work, get paid and then let someone else worry about the big stuff 😅
SAME
“You have to pull people into the abyss to pull yourself out of it.”
Yes, brilliant, so well put.
May I request that this video be closed captioned? My mom is hard of hearing and she’s been the victim of many an MLM. I’d like to send her this video. Currently her “business” is press-on nails. Avon was the gateway drug...
Avon is the worst
I did it
Got nothing out of it but debt
Couldn't you just instruct get how to turn on the captions on You Tube?😁
stephani m there are no captions on this vid
there is auto captions
@@mrfarina1474 Autocaptions aren't proper captions. They're not good enough to be a proper alternative.
12:09 This reminded me of a party I went to. A friend (now ex-friend) was getting married and I was invited to her bachelorette party. The night before the party she texted us and told us to bring cash, and didn’t tell us anything else. Just bring cash. We all thought she was hiring a stripper or that we were going to a strip club or night club, so we all brought enough for tips and maybe a cover charge and drinks if we were going out. I was working a minimum wage job at the time, so I had to scrape together enough at the last minute and pulled out $18 from my bank account the day of the party.
When we got there, there was a sales woman from Slumber Party, which is an adult toys and novelties MLM. She went through her pitch and we all politely considered things, but ultimately none of us were going to buy because we all had $50 or less on us and a lot of the stuff was hundreds of dollars. I guess at the time Slumber Party had an offer for brides where they could throw a Slumber Party sales pitch as their bachelorette party and get a cut of the sales person’s commission. It’s a win-win for the sales person and the bride, but a lose-lose for all of us.
When we all wanted to take the sales lady’s card and not buy anything that night, the bride lost her shit. If nobody bought anything during the party, the bride would lose out on her cut of the commission. She threatened to kick us all out of her wedding if we left without buying anything, including her bridesmaids. She gaslit everyone like it was Victorian London, started a sobbing tantrum, stomped up to her bedroom and slammed her door like a toddler. Her mother then turned on us and screamed at us for making the bride cry during her own bachelorette party. The sales lady looked like she wanted to die where she stood, and we all felt something similar. To keep the peace we all bought something, but to this day I wish I had the self-esteem to tell that bitch to go fuck herself and her wedding. I bought the cheapest thing which was a glow-in-the-dark condom. The sales lady said it was $6 but with taxes and fees came out to $20, so I had to bum a couple of bucks off one of my friends for a goddamn condom. But I was poor and wanted free wedding food lol 😂 but that party was the moment our friendship really ended.
Edited for clarity.
Omg I'm so sorry. I totally understand why you caved and bought something but I feel for you and I would have wanted to end that friendship immediately at this point in my life
Well damn!
Your ex friend wasn't shit
Shantell Kight you right 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Sandra A She really was, I’m glad she’s out of my life. It makes for a great story tho!
"Gaslit everyone like it was Victorian London" such a delightful turn of phrase there lol
I joined one right out of highschool, luckily I was moving and poor so I stopped lmao.. They really pray on lonely, naive, gullible people
I think I got targeted
Omg you literally just saved me from being part of an MLM! My bf was telling me its a pyramid scheme but they kept saying its not a pyramid scheme. However I see from your vid they follow exactly the same narrative, the same way of pulling people in that you outlined. I know you probably wont see my little comment buut thanks truly and I appreciate you for the in depth analysis!
Which company
@@amybess any 🙄 all mlms are pyramid schemes. Mask off illegal pyramid schemes make more money than this crap
@@amybessprobably melaleuca, the not an mlm, mlm 😂
A crush from HS called me about a year after we graduated. Told me he wanted to meet up with him and catch up. I legit was so stoked. Turns out it was a WorldVentures meeting. So that was cool.
that happened to me, not with an ex but with a young person from my old church that I genuinely cared about. I spent my money and went out of my way to go meet him on my day off without a car, only for him to pitch me sales about an energy company! I was so pissed. Didn't even bother grabbing lunch with him.
jenna bunny The last one I dealt with was a coworker who wanted me to “Thrive”. I was pregnant. She told me “it will help the baby”. GIRL BYE
Oooooof
I had someone come to my house to drop off a “diffuser” that I “won” at a Bridal Fair. She came in and tried to pitch me a $5000 vacuum cleaner.... my granny and my mom were over visiting and she still kept going. I ended up asking her to leave and not to contact me again. I gave her back her “diffuser I won.” Watch out for this crap.
Same happened to me but not with my crush but school classmate and then she gave me long ass speech about it. Thank god I don't have that much money spend on stupid stuff
I’m a new mom and my neighbor was so nice to me until I repeatedly declined her offer to join. She implied that I don’t care to make money for my son. She pretty much just shuns me now lmao oh well
Thank God you didn't fall for that crap
whaaaat??? you don’t want to go into debt buying snake oil? how could u set such a good example for your son... for shame
yep thats a common tactic they aim for young mother to guilt trip into going into debt and making there kids life harder ill never forget reading a story of a hun bot infiltrating a support group for women whove had children die just to try selling shit to them while lying that they lost tons of kids hun bots are more evil then the worst drug dealers
Your neighbor will need a real friend once she’s broke and kicked out of the cult.
It’s a shame that a catchy phrase like “boss babe” is associated with these schemes. I propose that female librarians/writers/BookTubers/etc should reclaim it and call themselves “book babes.” As a writer/librarian myself, I’d certainly use it.
"We're all so desperate for human interaction..." This aged well. Lol
As a military spouse, I can see so clearly how enticing it’s meant to be towards us. “Make friends for life.” Or “you’ll find your best friends!” Moving state to state is really lonely. But thankfully it’s not lonely enough for me to join a MLM lol.
McKahla Jena Agreed. And the “be a stay at home mom when your spouse is away”. Bs. I feel bad for every military spouse who falls for this.
And the truth is, those who join only have friends for as long as they're active consultants. To my eternal chagrin, I represented an MLM for five years and none of my "friends" kept in touch when I left. These are people I saw weekly for YEARS. Some of that is probably down to circumstances changing since strong friendships tend to be with people who share our core values and beliefs, and when you're in an MLM they hijack all of those and twist them to make the MLM the center of your life. Even though I know that, it's weird and sad to me that none of those friends ever texted me on her own, even for my birthday or something general like that. It's like I fell off the face of the planet when I quit. And that's what happens to most of us, I think. Now I have friends who care about people, not selling things.
How many guys do you average a night on deployments?
Erium fuck you for this comment but I laughed 🤭
McKahla Jena SAMEEEE
Lmao the three ads on this vid were for "Get rich quick" scams
Jamie Writhe SAME! 🤣
Same but in german lol
Same. I got one for a webinar on how to better your MLM business 😬.
Literally the first ad was a free webinar offering tips for “network marketing”. Wow.
@@adav19 AAAAaaaaa
MLM Logic: No no it's not theft, theft is illegal! This is "surprise redistribution of goods."
my friends mom made her husband take out a $5,000 loan to do lularoux and didn't sell a single item. she just has a room full of leggings
another group that MLM’s target are COLLEGE STUDENTS. I was recruited into one knowing that I was in desperate need for extra cash at that time, so I joined. Only to get into 20+ hours of training with NO pay. The first day I automatically felt it was a complete scam because it was so intense (they didn’t even provide us with meals) and stopped showing up before I even began selling the products. Never again. Save yourself the energy and time, look for an actually legit job that will guarantee you your time and investment!! I can’t believe companies like these are not illegal in the U.S.
edit: the MLM I got recruited into was Vector Marketing 🤷🏻♀️
Sounds like primerica
I once got a text from Vector Marketing trying to recruit me. I didn't know much about MLMs at the time, so the only reason I didn't want to look into it was because the rep told me that a former acquaintance (who I cut all ties with after he went to prison for sexual assault) had given them my number. I didn't want to work or associate with a sex offender, so I turned it down. If he hadn't gone to prison for that, I might've gotten suckered in...
Kim0fficial i got a couple vector messages about a ‘summer job’ it was the same exact message both times lol
Oh vector... They almost got me
Kim0fficial THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!!
I have gotten many “offers” from Instagram because I’m a college student.
My mom has been in an MLM since the 90s and it's called Mary Kay!! She has risen, fallen and never gotten back up. At one point she was making $7,000 a month. But when the recession hit in 08 we lost the house, she lost all her "friends", clients, the car, EVERYTHING!! Sadly she still sells it and recruits women. We've tried telling her to stop and get a real job she's almost 70 and has nothing to show for her "hard work".
Krystal S this sucks. I’m sorry
I’m always so torn with how to respond to those messages... part of me wants to literally tell them to F off because they are annoying and predatory. But then I also just genuinely feel bad for them because they are so delusional and brainwashed. I usually just end up leaving them on read or blocking them 🤷🏻♀️
Do you think you could a video on the shitty clothes companies sell on Instagram, and they are always looking for "brand ambassadors" whcuh actually mean you buy their clothes at a "discount" and just take pictures of yourself wearing them?
A friend of mine does that, but is that considered scam? at least they are not making her buying in bulk
@@phillipgoat00 its a scam 💩
Should I be offended that I've never been reached out to by a boss babe?
Claudia Jade well if they are targeting weak, vulnerable people, it just shows you're the opposite!!
Claudia Jade ikr 😔
@@alicemurray1657 I thought that too, until they reached out to me a couple of times for some reason. And I´m majoring in law and economics, I know a bit about marketing, legal matters and business. These people a lot of times will just message anyone
Be proud of the fact that you have good friends and are not collecting stupid people.
Claudia Jade You should consider yourself lucky.
All the downvotes are just people involved in MLMs
Boss babes can't handle criticism.
charina this isn’t reddit tho
StrangerAle I knew someone would say that about the *op’s comment* lmao
I have bad eye sight BRUHHHHH
Lularoe’s start up price has dropped to $499, that says a lot. 😳
I thought they got shit down completely? That they lost a big pyramid scheme lawsuit, or some such.
Shut down, but shit works too
Neartmhor no they aren’t shut down. My aunt and uncle are still consultants.
Neartmhor That suit is still active far as I know.
During this entire video I got like 5 “get rich quick” ads 😂😂😂
I “won” a “spa day”...it was a Mary K party i was so angry
Ooh.. i remember my first full-time office job in my early 20s, and there was that nice young lady from another department always complementing my appearance, my outfits etc, I thought that was kind of her but in the end all she wanted was to bait me to Mary K
Lol same
Mary Kay is just the worst!!
Same! They advertised it as a spa party but nothing was spa about it. It was just a I’ll do your make up and I hated how they did my make up too. They were just regular sales people not make up artists
@@Valeria-th3ms I worked with a MK woman who did the exact opposite - told me how tired I looked, said I probably needed to exfoliate, oh and btw try this stuff I sell that can help make you look less awful. LOL.
MLMs in the hispanic community is very prevalent. mostly with low income women. these companies know that our culture values spending time with family. so that when these women are with their families (which is very often) they just try to sell them products.
for example, a few months ago there was a big family reunion type ordeal and a family member brought a bag of her products and tried selling all of them, while we were hanging out! most people didnt want them but they felt bad and ended up buying around $40 products each. not to mention my mom bought a $40 makeup remover that she hasn't used once.
babaykyu yes! When I was growing up in the 90s I lived in a huge Hispanic Community and almost every woman I knew except my own mother (who is Hispanic) was selling Mary Kay and Avon lol I never understood why or how at the time but after Herbalife came to our community I was like ohhhhh k
Yeah they do the whole I'm working hard to support my family.
@@gothamcat i think Mary Kay and Avon are still less pushy than all the others.
Ignaz S. yeah avon is pretty legit, my grandma makes a lot of money off of it and their stuff isnt garbage
@@nicotinejeans9310 No, Avon is not legit. They were okay when they were only focused on sales. But that's all changed. New Reps have to purchase starter kits and Avon strongly urges all reps to consistently purchase demo products and bundles. Their emphasis is on recruiting, front loading and sales are a distant third.
PREACH IT, SISTER!!! 🙌🏼
The funny thing is that they don’t call it “guilt tripping” they call it “finding their pain and relating to it” HAHAHAHA what a joke
That's the core of any marketing though. It's all about offering you a solution to a problem you have.. most of them are just intentionally misleading and don't change a thing or even convince you that you have a problem when you don't. It's really disgusting if you think about it.
in the case of military spouses, starbucks has a program specifically for veterans and military spouses where it's easy for them to transfer stores. it's a stressful job but i couldn't deny the benefits were pretty sweet when i worked there
That's actually pretty good and i think more stores should do that
That's really good actually! And a good way to meet new people in that area. The relationship between a mom and her barista is sacred
It’s only good if you can get hired, so many wives were fighting over a few positions available in Germany
It wasnt a stressful job for me. It was actually one of my favorite and I had the best team of peers. And I worked in a downtown area where the line would be out the door for hours at a time...
They’ve got tuition reimbursement as well!! Pretty great company ngl
I forgot how many MLM's my mom joined, but at one point she was involved with 6 at the same time.
Now I know why we were so poor lol.
damn, thats sad. Sorry that those bitches exploited your mom😯
Whose mom dabbled in Avon or Mary Kay? Let me see those hands.
@@chaghetti Mine still is. Like 20 years or something at this point ha
@@chaghetti yep mine was in both lol! 🖐🏼🖐🏼🖐🏼
@@obeyamichael1947 it's ok. that's all in the past anyway. at least I learned an important life lesson: never give your money to an mlm. period.
lol got a 3minute ad on this with a guy selling me affiliate marketing seminar. i guess thats the MANLY Version of MLMS
I love how every ad on this video is literally get rich quick schemes😬
Something that makes me even sadder for these people is that a lot of them have developed great sales and people skills-- if they were to put that much effort into starting their own business legitimately, or getting a commissioned-based job for a non-MLM, they could be making so much more and still get the benefits of flexible hours, working from home, etc.
Natalie Crowley i know some people leave their MLM to go into car sales or something like that. The point is that they have the skill now to succeed in sales and just need the foot traffic. MLM requires that you, a regular person with little influence, produce your own foot traffic but put that person in a place where they can focus on just their sales skills and they do decent. But anyone who is both good at sales AND good at marketing will make money anywhere no matter what it is.
YES! Great money in sales. One of the few jobs a woman can do without a degree and make a very good living.
Natalie Crowley I tell women who are thinking about an MLM or want to work from home, and have good skills and work ethic to go get a real estate license.
G. Dub that costs like 2 grand and some brokerages are basically network marketing like Keller Williams
Yeah, the people who actually do decent in MLMs develop good skills, if they were applied to any other company, then they would actually make good money.
This has to be the best MLM awareness video on TH-cam. She offers comedy while exposing the scam. These companies talk about female empowerment but it sounds more like female enslavement. So sad.
Tiffany in summer 2019: "We are all just so desperate for human interaction..."
Me in fall 2020: "...anybody wanna tell her?"
My parents got sucked into MLM when I was a very new baby. Mum had just given birth to me by caesarian section 2 weeks earlier and her upline pressured her to go along to an event because she would be "letting the team down otherwise" even though she wasn't physically or mentally ready. Absolutely disgusting.
My friend tried to recruit me in an MLM and I was kinda disappointed. We haven't talked in so long and she just said she has a business venture. She wouldn't even tell what it was when I asked. But lucky me, I already knew because she had been trying to recruit my other friends before me. So I straight out told her, "Yeah, this is an MLM. I don't think I'm cut out for that. I don't like selling things. And I don't have the people skills to recruit others."
But I kinda felt more disappointed because we are business graduates and we were told multiple times about these MLMs and their dangers. And yet here we are.
Happened to me too
That’s the thing that annoys me the most. The first time someone tried to get me into network marketing I didn’t know what it was so I thought it was this amazing rare opportunity I was getting. I was a couple meetings and a couple of books in and I still didn’t get to know what the product was. I got out before I even figured what the product was that was being represented. It’s so shady that my “mentor” wouldn’t tell me what it was and said I needed to attend more meetings to find out.
Many years ago this girl that I went to high school with sent out an invitation to everyone for a high school reunion/get together at her and her husband’s house. We thought heck why not so a bunch of my friends and I that never lost touch went and a few other girls from school also showed up. When we got there, there’s like 20 other people we do not know, some were as much as 30 years older than us so definitely not from high school. Turns out her and her husband sent out invitations to different groups under the guise of whatever they share in common (high school reunion, ex-coworkers and/or present coworkers getting together, etc) and they pretty much held us hostage to listen to their presentation for over 2 hours. The product? A $500-dollar landline phone that does video calls. A bunch of us were like uhh we all have iPhones and android phones why in the world would we want a landline version that has limited capabilities and we have to purchase several every month. I think all politeness went out the window. One of the girls I came with was the first to walk out without a word with me right at her heels and by the time we got to the curb (we street parked since the hosts lived in an apartment), there were 10-12 more people from the same party that exited with us. Long story short the girl created a post about us on Facebook but we didn’t even care because the people we care to be friends with we are still hanging out with anyway.
They should call MLMs the relationship destroyer.
During training sessions for one I was in, they more or less taught you that it’s ok to “cut off dead weight”. A cult of sociopaths.
I like how you used "held us hostage" in this context
Another group unfairly targeted by MLMs: college students/students fresh out of high school. I've been targeted twice, it's like the scummiest thing you can do, to target people in tremendous debt for your scam
It just struck me that you, and other creators on here, put out so much free knowledge that could literally save us hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. So yeah, I would just like to thank you for continuously posting such great content and feeding our minds.
The thing that bothers me about MLM is that the exploit insecurities and good natured people. the claims about curing depression and anxieties also infuriate me. depression requires therapy and medication, not essential oils
Its true. I feel like a victime. Im too polite and often say yes to things im not really into just because im scared of how mad they get i reject them. Im glad i eventually got the confidence to leave and say im done with it all because i got so angry and tired of the lack of care they have for relationships and lives. Its so sad they make people who are good natured feel like they are the bad person for "not putting enough work in" or "thinking big enough". I never cared about the stupid car you win or the trips (even though you still are in debt from all you have to do to get no where). Arbonne is the company I was with. Their products arent bad but not worth calling up old acquaintances you never even spoke to, just to further ruin a relationship you never even got to start. Point, dont feel bad to say no if you dont feel right as soon as you hear something. Do something because YOU want to, not because you were pressured.
Ugh the “hun,” triggered me. If I had a penny for every time I got that from a MLM recruiter I could buy my own starter kit 😂
Actually, you'd got probably the same they 'earned' for a month after buying that starter kit lol
I regret joining herbalife 5 years ago. omg what a waste of everything
Im sorry
Do you need to buy stock?