For me, the thing about the Japanese Silent-Hill games was that the real-world locations always seemed so life-like. They actually felt like places where someone might live or work. Rooms were furnished in ways that felt believeable. Objects were placed around the world in a way that felt believeable. Everything seemed to be the right scale. Texture-work was amazing. I don't know why, but in SH 1-4 you actually felt like you entered the worlds you visited in. For some reason the western sequels have been unable to recapture this. They all look and feel like video games by comparison.
I agree. And while personally I thought the stories in Silent Hill 1 and 3 were really dumb, they were also bizarre enough to add to the sense of being trapped in a nightmare. Meanwhile the stories of games like Homecoming and Downpour are also dumb, but not in a surreal creepy way, more of a bad Hollywood movie sort of way. And I actually liked Downpour, and I think it came the closest to recapturing the vibe of Silent Hill, but the story was both bad and forgettable.
Mechanically 4 was a mess but narrative wise it is amazing. Think about how Silent Hill torments Henry. Everyone who gets killed comes back aa ghosts who can go through doors even locked ones... the town is literally telling him let us kill you and you can be free. That is twisted even for Silent Hill
I just took it as Henry is a bit of an asocial shut it. Pining for human connection but unable and unwilling to put in the work. I played this game when I was 16 and started to call my friends more often to keep my social life more active
@@travismcnasty51 you got the NEET scared out of you. But genuinely that's the power of intimate personal horror media, it can help us reflect on the parts of our lives we otherwise wouldn't and grow through that experience
@@sean8102 It would've been perfect if Konami would've hire the team behind the mod, letting them develop an enhanced edition mod for silent hill 3, and release both games on gog and steam. But who am I kidding? It's Konami we're talking about.
Literally the only Silent Hill game I ever played and one that had me getting up for sunshine breaks every hour. I barely remember if I won. I think I did but the villain got in and took a nap on the couch while moaning "mommy" so that didn't FEEL like a win for me.
Silent Hill 4 has multiple endings based on how well you do in the last level. You have to do this thing in a ritual circle (I forget what exactly) and keep your escort girl from taking too much damage. I used her as canon fodder to distract enemies so she killed herself.
Walter Sullivan is probably the most interesting villain in the whole Silent Hill series imo. I actually started empathizing with this guy learning more about him...
Actually the whole game felt less like a typical Silent Hill psychological horror and more of a "detective story through hell" And I loved it for that. It's great in its own way.
Silent Hill's human antagonists have never been great imo, but I never actually played this one. I have it, but I haven't gotten around to it yet- been playing 1, 2 and finished 3 a short while ago. I always found the town the best antagonist, the nightmare itself as the villian, but I like me a good human villain every now and again.
PopTartNeko I think that Walter isn't an antagonist as much as he is the actual protagonist of the story. Henry is just the fake protagonist through whom you discover the details behind the events. Everything revolves around Walter, while Henry barely has any story in the whole game.
CopyZer0 Walter is not a protagonist by any means. Yes, he did not deserve anything that's happened to him, and that's exactly why he becomes a serial killer. Henry is more or less the player, the observer, receiver of wisdom = the protagonist.
CopyZer0 Walter is most definitely the antagonist. The protagonist of the story isn't necessarily the one around whom the story is centered. Take, for example, Bram Stoker's Dracula. Dracula is one of the most infamous examples of an antagonist: evil through and through, manipulative, charming, scheming, etc. Yet the story revolves around him. Yes, there are heroes who rise up against him, such as Jonathan Harker and Abraham van Helsing, but they are not the focus of the story. Just because Dracula is the focus of the story does NOT make him the protagonist. In the original novel, the role of the protagonist is pretty much evenly split up among Harker, Van Helsing, Dr. Seward, etc.
SH4 was one of my favourites, and the scariest for me. The sense of entrapment and the actual survival horror aspect of unkillable ghosts made it a difficult and scary game. And all I have to say after that is - Eileen's head. Nightmares.
"a hole in the wall, leading to a series to bizarre nightmare worlds where he keeps witnessing people get murdered who then turn up dead in real life" That sounds a lot like Persona 4 plot
And here I thought Persona 4 was mostly just ripping off Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4. Hang on, is Persona 4 just indiscriminately copying everything with a 4 in the title? Quick, someone summarize the plot of Final Fantasy IV!
@Pasi Mysiini Persona 4 came out in 2008- didn't part four come out in 2015 or something? Probably not that. *But* Slappy boom blappy 4 came out in 2004. *COINCIDENCE???*
I want to like SH4 since it is probably the scariest game I've ever played but between the limited inventory, invincible enemies, and overly long level design makes the game such a chore to play through. _The Room_ really is the definition of a flawed masterpiece.
I'm so impressed by this review honestly! You get exactly how I feel! So many people bash it but you've just perfectly explained why it deserves a bit more than that.
Every time I saw a review of this game they always shat on it and declared it the worst SH game ever so I just assumed that was the general feeling toward it
I realized that I typed he he he not tee he he after the fact but hoped that no one would notice. Thank you oh representative of TH-cam commenters for showing me the error of my ways.
Stonechewer I really was just teasing, which is why I misspelled loser, so you could shut the smug smarminess down. But then again, there are so many jerks who can't grammar but still correct others it's kind of impossible to tell. Thankfully, you've fixed the blasphemy (:
aah, i remember when sh4 came out, most players didn't like it, and then at every new western entry in the series, people started to love it more and more lmao
when the last jedi came out, people only focused on its flaws, which there are of course, but when the last jedi came, jesus christ episode 7 just became a masterpiece.
"Spunk Gargle WeeWee" will never be topped by "Splappy Boom Blappy" Unless Konami releases a Silent Hill game with a first-person shooter section and even clunkier controls for $60
Ian Rocco I've been EA free since ME3 and I've never stopped playing videogames, nor I've ever ran out of GOOD videogames to play. EA may win, but not thanks to me, that I can assure you.
Ah, Silent Hill 4... Brings back verdant memories of sophomore year in high school going over to watch my friend Joe play. He was the only one with an undying love for Sony and Konami. This was my 1st exposure to the franchise...not a Terrible start to be sure.
Anyone remember the room in the hospital where if you walk forward the camera switches to a creepy massive head of eileen? Man that shit was freaky for my mind
This was refreshing! I seriously love the Silent Hill series, and four was one of those I really enjoyed (and I personally enjoyed the fact that Henry's a giant doofus). Also, I loved how most of the endings REALLY DO NOT FEEL LIKE A WIN.
I agree, but I also think I got lucky, cause my ending showed Henry limping away from the apartment building, and arriving at the hospital to see the injured but healing up Eileen. I don't know how I did it, honestly. It was my first playthrough, and it was the very first Silent Hill game I've ever played.
It's a small Comfort to know that it doesn't matter how much Eileen gets damaged because you can completely undo all the harm done to her right before the end of the game.
Spencer Trumbore Get to the part just before Eileen runs off after you pick up the umbilical cord. Position Henry and Eileen as close to the umbilical cord as possible but don't pick it up. Put down a candle and wait till it's just about to burn out. Just before it burns out pick up the umbilical cord. You'll know you've done it right if Eileen isn't yelling at you during the cutscene. I've had to do it every time I've played the game and it always works. Keep in mind I haven't played the game in years and I might be a little bit fuzzy on the details so you might want to look it up online to be sure. I know it works though.
WarLord Era Try Saving right before you do it so you can keep going back to it if it doesn't work. I also looked it up right after I posted that comment and I saw someone on TH-cam placing several candles around Eileen and it healed her pretty much completely. I've never tried it myself as a matter of fact it's the first time I've ever seen it done that way.
On my first playthrough I thought she was invincible. Then near the end I was like "Hey there's a lot of veiny shit on her that wasn't there before... oh." It kinda worked, though, because getting the worst ending is also a challenge. You have to navigate around all the possessed crap in your apartment, some of which are containers you interact with, and never clean anything.
Brandon Powell SEVERAL CANDLES?? I had a hard enough time saving the one for Eileen! But I'll try again one of these days, it's kinda frustrating for two playthroughs to end that miserably. 😁
That bit at the end where yahtzee talks about "the point" of buying games being to support creators sounds like he's basically saying to pirate the game since you can only find ot second hand without openly admitting it. Glad to know he's on the right side with that.
SH4 is officially on PC on GOG now. I’ve been playing it these last couple of days and its a great port. You can even use any game controller you have with a bit of tweaking.
Just found your videos and I've grown addicted and now whenever I even think your voice comes out as the narrator which means your doing your job right
You do not "use" a Yahtzee love pillow, you make sweet sweet love to it so it can criticize you later. And you don't stop cuddling it to watch a ZP episode, you do them both, at the same time
Splappy boom blappy? Well, let’s see if Yahtzee commits to this monstrosity of a joke for the whole video... no way, he’d never do th... my god, he’s doing it... ugh
I honestly thought this game was fantastic when I played it, in fact (heresy alert) I personally enjoyed it more than Silent Hill 2. Sure it had rough edges but it has the best premise and creeping horror design in the whole series. Ironically this is the one game that really would benefit from a really well thought out remaster. Someone find the genius who did REmake and beg him to give SH4 the same treatment...
I tend to not give much thought to what an old classic would look like remade, even imperfect games, but SH4 is such a perfect case of missteps concealing the brilliance underneath that I can't not imagine it: monster sound design that's as unsettling as the level sound design, monster visual design that's uniformly creepy (instead of only the ghosts and baby faces), fidelity that allows way more propwork and thus even more contrast between the mundane room and the bizarre nightmare worlds, character microexpressions that would let the cast stay quiet and off-putting but instill more connection, a second half that takes advantage of repetition by innovating the level design and updating the visuals, and of course refined combat and escort AI. Goddamn does it suck that this game will never get its due (I know this is a very old comment, but we're deep in coronavirus quarantine now and something about being trapped in my urban apartment watching the world outside has me thinking about SH4, hmmmmmm no idea why)
Was that a positive review to a game a lot of people seem to dislike? Yahtzeey my love! Praise be to you! I've always loved the SH series and I look forward to when Konami loses the rights to it in some back alley bar. The series would be so much better in literally anyone else's hands.
Well to be fair, it's hard to be worse in any way imaginable to abandoning the series in almost all possible ways and making Pachinko machines out of it.
Silent Hill could have dominated so much in this current era of gaming. Silent Hills alone changed a lot of facets in gaming with a short demo and it's unimaginable to think what that game could have done in its completed state. This could have easily put Konami back at the top and brought back a series so beloved. But some things in life just dont seem to work out all too well. Regardless, I still have high hopes that Silent Hill will some day make a real comeback in honest hands.
It is pretty funny how Silent Hill and Resident Evil both experimented with their respective fourth entries, as you can kind of see the two ends of the spectrum both games landed on. RE4 redefined the series (and by extension, the genre) for the next several years until only recently returning to a semblance of its horror-heavy roots, whereas SH4's attempt at restructuring itself saw Konami wrest control from the original team and get a bunch of western teams to just catch the same bolt of lightning SH2 had masterfully snatched between its grasp back in the early days of the PS2.
I love so so so so so much the fact that he called the health potions Yakult and complaining about the stock sounds of the creatures, both of which he did in the livestreams, it's like we got to see a bit of his creative process and I love it so much
"The Point of buying games is to support the creators. Buying it second hand is only supporting the previous owner meth habits" - Yahtzee 2018. And i'm totally going to use it when debating piracy with my coleagues.
Wai... what? How does one even do that, and... why? Don't prebuilt computers come with a license? At least here in Brazil, it always has pre instaled in any prebuilt we've bought so far in my household. '-' My only guess is that people are trying to squeeze every coin for it's value...
Sounds very incovenient. But i guess if i look further into microsoft's business i would find some duds that could justify that course of action. So. Shrug i guess.
GameStop has made a killing soaking up the profits on used games, and any game developer would be more than happy to tell you that buying used from Gamestop just a more expensive form of piracy
Because here in Brazil, we avoid to buy games in stores because they are expensive due taxes and prefer to buy from street retailers which often sell pirated or stolen products which often are associated with other criminal activities. Such as making deals with security transport companies to steal products.
So, PT was a first person experience about exploring strange rooms that in the beggining they doen't seem anything unusual, but still makes you feel uneasy (since, you alredy know in a horror game) and as you progress, the things starts to getting bizarre and unnerving, and the Room stops being a safe place as you begin to been haunted by a supernatural pressence, and the more you dig into the backstory you realize it has something to do with a murder that has a relation with a counjuring that uses a sequence of numbers. And Silent Hill 4 was excactly that but also with third-person sections, a great villain and intresting new concepts to add in the Silent Hill lore. How comes that PT is praised but SH 4 is the "black sheep" from the series for so many people?
For a while I was thinking this was about Resident Evil 4, and I was entirely lost, as I tried to work out how Yahtzee and I got such different experiences from one of my favourite games of all time.
I loved SH2 for the game it was, but boi did I love SH4 concept. Even though I didn't beat the game, the first few hours when you enter and re-enter the room felt really unique and scary. Being trapped in the room while people around are just going on with their lives. I remember how you can look into the window and its normal life around, but you are trapped in hell. Great memories.
+Ora Saikatsu Not the original one, that one is ps2 only. The one on ps4(Silent Hill HD collection) only has 2 games and performs really poorly, it's barely an upgrade
At least the escort portion doesnt actually require you to protect her. She wont die, she just becomes more and more unstable the more damage she takes, which doesnt affect you until the final boss, potentially making her impossible to save.
@@wilsonkierankitsune here's hoping that silent hill 2 and 3 get a digital release soon. Possibly before Halloween. I hope they put Shadow of Memories on GOG
@@wilsonkierankitsune I'm worried that konami might just port the god-awful HD edition of silent hill 2 and 3 to pc. If that happens, the modding community will fix that.
It definitely will always have a special place in my heart as my first "new" Silent Hill game. I remember being completely surprised seeing it in the case at WalMart and saying "Oh, you're coming home with me, little guy."
I’m convinced this game is about social anxiety. Wanting to leave your head, seeing people around you, wanting desperately to interact with them, but not being able to do so.
Silent hill 4 is just one of those trippy games that i cant ever forget , it may not be as good as the others but it definitely wins on the weird factor
While I do feel guilty for buying second-hand, a lot of the time it's out of necessity. In a world where new console games cost upwards of sixty US dollars to buy, I often find myself torn between paying rent, buying food, or buying a game. Normally, I can usually do two of those just fine, but the third has to go on the shelf. Every now and again, I save up enough to indulge myself in a new game, but then it seems like forever before I can pick up another one. Secondhand games cut that time in half. It's like buying cars - I still believe that people who buy brand new cars are either rich or idiots; probably both. There's always a recall on airbags in like two years, and the second you buy the fucking thing its value goes into the drain. Same with games. The second you buy the disc, it's worth a quarter of what it was before you bought it. As for supporting the developers - fuck them. Especially in today's market. Hell, they'll make ten times of what I'd have given them just by selling the average consumer things that should've already been in that sixty dollar game.
The concept of your hub world becoming dangerous over the course of the game is freaking genius! Unfortunate that it only happened in a pretty bad game
I tried to play 3, but lost my save at the hospital. I tried to play the first one, but got stuck on a piano puzzle. The only one I finished was 2, and I thought it was exellent.
Victor Kruger I would recommend going back and giving them a shot. The piano is the hardest puzzle in the game and you could always look up the solution online. Even though 3 is my favorite I do have to acknowledge that 2 is the best and the most accessible one especially for people who haven't played the series before. If you do go back to play the others try to avoid the HD Collection. The less said about that awful mess the better.
I don't get how people find the piano puzzle so hard. Once you read the poem and get the clues, it's all really obvious. I wish more games had neat little puzzles in them like that, instead of stick item here or match shape there.
Bluemoon in the Daylight I don't want you to misunderstand me. I wasn't lobbying for the abolishment of these kinds of puzzles in video games. I think it's also fair to say that just because something is easy and obvious for one person doesn't mean that's going to be the case for everyone. Despite the fact that I do think it's the most difficult puzzle in the game and often have trouble with it I enjoy solving it none the less.
I agree with that (though 2 is a close second). Heather is my favorite lead character of the series and the horror is relentless in that game, kept me on the edge of my seat playing it.
I miss good Silent Hill. ..... and Silent Hill at all for that matter. Agreed on all counts here. 4 has a special place in my heart (and PS2 collection). ...... and I just bumped into another comment I made 2 years ago. It's like I've been here before... a Silent Hill loop!
Finally! Someone fairly reviewing this game instead of just broadly calling it shit! As one of my favorite installments in the series, I get so tired of people acting like it's garbage. Especially when those same people talk about 3 as if it's a masterpiece, when I was personally luke warm on it.
I'd say the gameplay of Silent Hill 4 is a mixed bag. The combat is perfect, it feels good, it's fun, and it works with the tone of the game and communicates things about your character. On the other hand, unkillable enemies who hurt you by just being near you, and the second half of the game is an escort mission largely done through a bunch of areas you've already explored, and now you can't go back to your apartment to heal.
Downpour wasn’t terrible it was just poorly optimized. It honestly wasn’t scary either. I found doing the side quests actually made it better as they are more disturbing then the main plot. But it was just sort of okay.
HEY! Extermination wasn't bad, well I'm not sure, never got to complete it because my dad broke it in half and threw it behind the dresser while I was playing it.
MachonyLeeoun not exactly, older consoles allowed you to continue playing the game without the disk. This is because the console loaded that segment of the game and didn't need to read the disk until it got to the next loading screen
The Room is probably my least favorite out of the Team Silent games but it's treated like the black sheep of the franchise and it deserved so much better.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the first four SH games are seen as basically a different series to the post-Team Silent ones. Even the worst Team Silent game is a thousand times better than any American title.
I did not fire Kojima, I did not. Oh, hi fans
best fanfic i've ever read
Anyway, how’s your sex life?
Woolfie McPoshinson oh hi mark 😋
Ocean Man I love your name
i feel ashamed of that giggle.
For me, the thing about the Japanese Silent-Hill games was that the real-world locations always seemed so life-like. They actually felt like places where someone might live or work. Rooms were furnished in ways that felt believeable. Objects were placed around the world in a way that felt believeable. Everything seemed to be the right scale. Texture-work was amazing. I don't know why, but in SH 1-4 you actually felt like you entered the worlds you visited in. For some reason the western sequels have been unable to recapture this. They all look and feel like video games by comparison.
I agree. And while personally I thought the stories in Silent Hill 1 and 3 were really dumb, they were also bizarre enough to add to the sense of being trapped in a nightmare. Meanwhile the stories of games like Homecoming and Downpour are also dumb, but not in a surreal creepy way, more of a bad Hollywood movie sort of way. And I actually liked Downpour, and I think it came the closest to recapturing the vibe of Silent Hill, but the story was both bad and forgettable.
Mechanically 4 was a mess but narrative wise it is amazing. Think about how Silent Hill torments Henry. Everyone who gets killed comes back aa ghosts who can go through doors even locked ones... the town is literally telling him let us kill you and you can be free. That is twisted even for Silent Hill
I just took it as Henry is a bit of an asocial shut it. Pining for human connection but unable and unwilling to put in the work.
I played this game when I was 16 and started to call my friends more often to keep my social life more active
Excellent interpretation
@@travismcnasty51 you got the NEET scared out of you. But genuinely that's the power of intimate personal horror media, it can help us reflect on the parts of our lives we otherwise wouldn't and grow through that experience
And with 2020, Yahtzee's claim dies as 4 is now on GOG for $10. What a time to be alive
Holy shit you're right.
It'd be amazing if they got konami to put SH2 on GoG with the "Silent Hill 2 Enhanced Edition" mod included.
@@sean8102 It would've been perfect if Konami would've hire the team behind the mod, letting them develop an enhanced edition mod for silent hill 3, and release both games on gog and steam.
But who am I kidding? It's Konami we're talking about.
@@sean8102 they’re too evil to do that
What does GoG stand for?
I love Henry. He's shy and introverted. Almost to a "You probably have an anxiety disorder" level. But he has a soft spot for kids and women.
So did Walter Sullivan, ironically.
Well considering that he has been stuck in an awfull nightmare dimension for 5 days, I would act like that too.
Well thats poorly worded
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
username + "last of us 2 is trash"
yikes
@@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 they melee ludens, duh
5:00 Alucard saying "Simmer down love" is actually pretty in character.
Literally the only Silent Hill game I ever played and one that had me getting up for sunshine breaks every hour. I barely remember if I won. I think I did but the villain got in and took a nap on the couch while moaning "mommy" so that didn't FEEL like a win for me.
Shawn McRoberts you didn't win
Yah. Bad ending ahoy.
You don't win in Silent Hill. You just hope the character didn't die before the game started.
Shawn McRoberts
Shoulda been a better exorcist and lit more candles.
Silent Hill 4 has multiple endings based on how well you do in the last level. You have to do this thing in a ritual circle (I forget what exactly) and keep your escort girl from taking too much damage. I used her as canon fodder to distract enemies so she killed herself.
Walter Sullivan is probably the most interesting villain in the whole Silent Hill series imo. I actually started empathizing with this guy learning more about him...
Actually the whole game felt less like a typical Silent Hill psychological horror and more of a "detective story through hell"
And I loved it for that. It's great in its own way.
Silent Hill's human antagonists have never been great imo, but I never actually played this one.
I have it, but I haven't gotten around to it yet- been playing 1, 2 and finished 3 a short while ago.
I always found the town the best antagonist, the nightmare itself as the villian, but I like me a good human villain every now and again.
PopTartNeko
I think that Walter isn't an antagonist as much as he is the actual protagonist of the story. Henry is just the fake protagonist through whom you discover the details behind the events. Everything revolves around Walter, while Henry barely has any story in the whole game.
CopyZer0 Walter is not a protagonist by any means. Yes, he did not deserve anything that's happened to him, and that's exactly why he becomes a serial killer. Henry is more or less the player, the observer, receiver of wisdom = the protagonist.
CopyZer0 Walter is most definitely the antagonist. The protagonist of the story isn't necessarily the one around whom the story is centered. Take, for example, Bram Stoker's Dracula. Dracula is one of the most infamous examples of an antagonist: evil through and through, manipulative, charming, scheming, etc. Yet the story revolves around him. Yes, there are heroes who rise up against him, such as Jonathan Harker and Abraham van Helsing, but they are not the focus of the story.
Just because Dracula is the focus of the story does NOT make him the protagonist. In the original novel, the role of the protagonist is pretty much evenly split up among Harker, Van Helsing, Dr. Seward, etc.
He’s only the second classical villain the series ever had, so
“Splappy Boom Blappy” somehow made me laugh. I think I have a child’s sense of humor.
At least you don't crack at hearing "boobie boobie bum bum" like Yatzee does.
Well can you atleast give the child its sense of humor back
dad jokes
which has more syllables than silent hill...so cringe
Jinn P yro Ditto.
I remember this game.
The room was nice.
I didn't spend too much time outside of it.
Just like IRL.
Yeees, the world always needs more Yahtzee reviews of old Silent hills
Coffera he just needs to review 3 and 1 and that's all of them. and we totally need those
SH4 was one of my favourites, and the scariest for me. The sense of entrapment and the actual survival horror aspect of unkillable ghosts made it a difficult and scary game. And all I have to say after that is - Eileen's head. Nightmares.
"a hole in the wall, leading to a series to bizarre nightmare worlds where he keeps witnessing people get murdered who then turn up dead in real life"
That sounds a lot like Persona 4 plot
I'm pretty sure Persona 4 sounds like this, actually. That ought to start some flamewars.
Lol
And here I thought Persona 4 was mostly just ripping off Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Part 4.
Hang on, is Persona 4 just indiscriminately copying everything with a 4 in the title?
Quick, someone summarize the plot of Final Fantasy IV!
Hey, since he liked persona 5, maybe he should go back to that one
@Pasi Mysiini Persona 4 came out in 2008- didn't part four come out in 2015 or something? Probably not that.
*But* Slappy boom blappy 4 came out in 2004.
*COINCIDENCE???*
HA never getting a re-release.. but here comes Konami!
To be fair it's just a port. I'd love an HD release.
@@RickySteels gog version is Good port
"Somewhat unqualified for action" - maybe, but you gotta admit, Henry has the best stomp out of all the protagonists.
I want to like SH4 since it is probably the scariest game I've ever played but between the limited inventory, invincible enemies, and overly long level design makes the game such a chore to play through. _The Room_ really is the definition of a flawed masterpiece.
"Yes, maybe I will marry Splappy Boom Blappy 2! Shut up!"
I'm so impressed by this review honestly! You get exactly how I feel! So many people bash it but you've just perfectly explained why it deserves a bit more than that.
5:15 “Sadly, it’s practically abandoned ware”
I can only imagine the egg on Yahtzee’s face when it was released on GOG before 1, 2, or 3.
1 was never on PC tho.
It’s not like he’s clairvoyant
4 was my first and by far my favorite Silent Hill game.
This game still gives me chills 10 years later
I'm so glad I'm not the only person on earth who loves this game, and one of the only other people is the hardest critic ever
TheGoldenRaptor i too love this game
I love it, still have the cd rom around:)
Why do people keep thinking like they're the "only" person? Of course you're not.
Every time I saw a review of this game they always shat on it and declared it the worst SH game ever so I just assumed that was the general feeling toward it
TheGoldenRaptor Ahh gotcha.
You have given me the tendency to sing 🎵Lets all laugh at an industry that never learns anything tee he he 🎵 every time I see a bad moment in gaming
Stonechewer he he he
Actually... it's teeheehee. Learn English, looser!
I realized that I typed he he he not tee he he after the fact but hoped that no one would notice. Thank you oh representative of TH-cam commenters for showing me the error of my ways.
I have changed my blasphemy to tee he he as it should be
Stonechewer I really was just teasing, which is why I misspelled loser, so you could shut the smug smarminess down. But then again, there are so many jerks who can't grammar but still correct others it's kind of impossible to tell.
Thankfully, you've fixed the blasphemy (:
Not gonna lie, I do have a soft spot in my heart for this game
The Thunderbirds puppet bit was a deep, deep cut
aah, i remember when sh4 came out, most players didn't like it, and then at every new western entry in the series, people started to love it more and more lmao
Brunn0121 Also known as Return of the Jedi syndrome
that will soon change to the force awakens syndrome LMAO
Brunn0121 not sure i got that one
when the last jedi came out, people only focused on its flaws, which there are of course, but when the last jedi came, jesus christ episode 7 just became a masterpiece.
Nah, I continued to hate it and all the later sequels. The first three are the only ones worth playing, as far as I'm concerned.
"Splappy Boom Blappy" is the new "Spunk Gargle Weewee".
"Spunk Gargle WeeWee" will never be topped by "Splappy Boom Blappy"
Unless Konami releases a Silent Hill game with a first-person shooter section and even clunkier controls for $60
Spunk Gargle WeeWee is generic, bald-head, brown-colored FPS games. Spappy Boom Blappy is specifically the Silent Hill series
no, that's Jiminy Cockthroat
EA: Mr. Greedy Investors, I don't feel so good.
Now I want Thanos to put EA on the dead half of the universe.
Connor Walters EA: winning because we know you can never stop playing video games. 😎
Ian Rocco
I've been EA free since ME3 and I've never stopped playing videogames, nor I've ever ran out of GOOD videogames to play.
EA may win, but not thanks to me, that I can assure you.
Andre Gon me too EA free is the way to bee 🐝
Ian Rocco Also EA free.
“In my restless dreams… I see that town… splappy boom blappy”
Silent Hill 4 has one of the best trailers ever. Even more so if you consider the extended trailer.
YES. It's my favorite trailer and by far the best thing about the game
Inriri Best spent 9 minutes of my life.
The game is called "The Room" and not one Tommy Wiseau joke?
That explains all the tommy wiseau quotes in the comment section.
You are tearing me apart(ment), Henry!
Every so often Yahtzee avoids going to the low hanging fruit
You can read literally ever other retro review of this game if you’re that hungry for stupid hack shit jokes like that
Holy shit. I thought it would never come.
Im sure thats what Yatz girlfriend says that constantly.
Crimsonpatty burnnnnnnn
Because she’s annoying as fuck, I’m sure it would take any guy a long time to “finish”.
Dweeb
Trapped in my flat
Only my memories for company
Trapped in my flat
Hoping someone will come and rescue me!
I was looking for this in the comments section, was not dissappointed.
Yahtzee made a video about it on his own channel.
Yes, that was the point.
Ah, Silent Hill 4... Brings back verdant memories of sophomore year in high school going over to watch my friend Joe play. He was the only one with an undying love for Sony and Konami.
This was my 1st exposure to the franchise...not a Terrible start to be sure.
_"Oh, hi game. What's new with you?"_
silent hill 4 is now on gog so now its the most acessible silent hill game and unlike the hd collection will probably never go away.
Anyone remember the room in the hospital where if you walk forward the camera switches to a creepy massive head of eileen? Man that shit was freaky for my mind
The best silent hill story and soundtrack. My personal favorite
This was refreshing! I seriously love the Silent Hill series, and four was one of those I really enjoyed (and I personally enjoyed the fact that Henry's a giant doofus). Also, I loved how most of the endings REALLY DO NOT FEEL LIKE A WIN.
I agree, but I also think I got lucky, cause my ending showed Henry limping away from the apartment building, and arriving at the hospital to see the injured but healing up Eileen. I don't know how I did it, honestly. It was my first playthrough, and it was the very first Silent Hill game I've ever played.
Love to relive the classic Silent Hill games through yahtzee and his reminiscing.
It's a small Comfort to know that it doesn't matter how much Eileen gets damaged because you can completely undo all the harm done to her right before the end of the game.
Spencer Trumbore Get to the part just before Eileen runs off after you pick up the umbilical cord. Position Henry and Eileen as close to the umbilical cord as possible but don't pick it up. Put down a candle and wait till it's just about to burn out. Just before it burns out pick up the umbilical cord. You'll know you've done it right if Eileen isn't yelling at you during the cutscene. I've had to do it every time I've played the game and it always works. Keep in mind I haven't played the game in years and I might be a little bit fuzzy on the details so you might want to look it up online to be sure. I know it works though.
I tried this twice and then learned that it's a bug that doesn't work 100% of the time. Oh well, who needs good endings.
WarLord Era Try Saving right before you do it so you can keep going back to it if it doesn't work. I also looked it up right after I posted that comment and I saw someone on TH-cam placing several candles around Eileen and it healed her pretty much completely. I've never tried it myself as a matter of fact it's the first time I've ever seen it done that way.
On my first playthrough I thought she was invincible. Then near the end I was like "Hey there's a lot of veiny shit on her that wasn't there before... oh." It kinda worked, though, because getting the worst ending is also a challenge. You have to navigate around all the possessed crap in your apartment, some of which are containers you interact with, and never clean anything.
Brandon Powell SEVERAL CANDLES?? I had a hard enough time saving the one for Eileen! But I'll try again one of these days, it's kinda frustrating for two playthroughs to end that miserably. 😁
That bit at the end where yahtzee talks about "the point" of buying games being to support creators sounds like he's basically saying to pirate the game since you can only find ot second hand without openly admitting it.
Glad to know he's on the right side with that.
SH4 is officially on PC on GOG now. I’ve been playing it these last couple of days and its a great port. You can even use any game controller you have with a bit of tweaking.
I like how all you have you have to do is punch in "Splappy Boom Blappy" and this is the first result.
Don't diss Extermination, the voice acting in that game gives me the chills.
Just found your videos and I've grown addicted and now whenever I even think your voice comes out as the narrator which means your doing your job right
I stopped cuddling with my Yahtzee Love pillow for this
Blasphemy
Fettuccine Alfredo Because I stopped "using" my Yahtzee Love pillow or because I have one?
You do not "use" a Yahtzee love pillow,
you make sweet sweet love to it so it can criticize you later.
And you don't stop cuddling it to watch a ZP episode, you do them both, at the same time
Fettuccine Alfredo It's called a dakimakura
Thank you pikistikman, now I want something else for my birthday
Just finished reading jam and now i want to read everything by this guy!
Steven Wills Read his Extra Punctuation columns on The Escapist. They're the best, funniest pieces of writing on the internet.
Oh boy, how I love my 5 minutes of Yahtzee's articulate, entertaining and funny rants
your subtitles are really well timed and its appreciated greatly.
Splappy boom blappy? Well, let’s see if Yahtzee commits to this monstrosity of a joke for the whole video... no way, he’d never do th... my god, he’s doing it... ugh
Christ Yatzee it feels like I've been waiting for you to cover this one for a decade at this point
I honestly thought this game was fantastic when I played it, in fact (heresy alert) I personally enjoyed it more than Silent Hill 2. Sure it had rough edges but it has the best premise and creeping horror design in the whole series. Ironically this is the one game that really would benefit from a really well thought out remaster. Someone find the genius who did REmake and beg him to give SH4 the same treatment...
I tend to not give much thought to what an old classic would look like remade, even imperfect games, but SH4 is such a perfect case of missteps concealing the brilliance underneath that I can't not imagine it: monster sound design that's as unsettling as the level sound design, monster visual design that's uniformly creepy (instead of only the ghosts and baby faces), fidelity that allows way more propwork and thus even more contrast between the mundane room and the bizarre nightmare worlds, character microexpressions that would let the cast stay quiet and off-putting but instill more connection, a second half that takes advantage of repetition by innovating the level design and updating the visuals, and of course refined combat and escort AI.
Goddamn does it suck that this game will never get its due
(I know this is a very old comment, but we're deep in coronavirus quarantine now and something about being trapped in my urban apartment watching the world outside has me thinking about SH4, hmmmmmm no idea why)
Silent Hill 4 was fucking incredible
Was that a positive review to a game a lot of people seem to dislike? Yahtzeey my love! Praise be to you! I've always loved the SH series and I look forward to when Konami loses the rights to it in some back alley bar. The series would be so much better in literally anyone else's hands.
100% agree
Well to be fair, it's hard to be worse in any way imaginable to abandoning the series in almost all possible ways and making Pachinko machines out of it.
Silent Hill could have dominated so much in this current era of gaming. Silent Hills alone changed a lot of facets in gaming with a short demo and it's unimaginable to think what that game could have done in its completed state. This could have easily put Konami back at the top and brought back a series so beloved. But some things in life just dont seem to work out all too well. Regardless, I still have high hopes that Silent Hill will some day make a real comeback in honest hands.
It is pretty funny how Silent Hill and Resident Evil both experimented with their respective fourth entries, as you can kind of see the two ends of the spectrum both games landed on. RE4 redefined the series (and by extension, the genre) for the next several years until only recently returning to a semblance of its horror-heavy roots, whereas SH4's attempt at restructuring itself saw Konami wrest control from the original team and get a bunch of western teams to just catch the same bolt of lightning SH2 had masterfully snatched between its grasp back in the early days of the PS2.
"That's when you know your buttocks have been splashed with the cold, toilet water of omen."
I need to find a way to make this my catch phrase.
I love so so so so so much the fact that he called the health potions Yakult and complaining about the stock sounds of the creatures, both of which he did in the livestreams, it's like we got to see a bit of his creative process and I love it so much
This is such a good review since he is clear and direct with what made the game so good and what it did right and wrong.
Thanks so much for reminding us of this amazing franchise that has now devolved into slot machines..
A review of Silent Hill 4: The Room? ಠ_ಠ
YOU’RE TEARING ME APART, YAHTZEE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Weird synchronicity! I went on a nostalgia trip through the Silent Hill games 2 weeks ago and 4 was the first one I fired up!
"The Point of buying games is to support the creators. Buying it second hand is only supporting the previous owner meth habits" - Yahtzee 2018.
And i'm totally going to use it when debating piracy with my coleagues.
Wai... what? How does one even do that, and... why? Don't prebuilt computers come with a license? At least here in Brazil, it always has pre instaled in any prebuilt we've bought so far in my household. '-'
My only guess is that people are trying to squeeze every coin for it's value...
Sounds very incovenient. But i guess if i look further into microsoft's business i would find some duds that could justify that course of action. So. Shrug i guess.
GameStop has made a killing soaking up the profits on used games, and any game developer would be more than happy to tell you that buying used from Gamestop just a more expensive form of piracy
In which way? Because the logical conclusion of that statement is that pirating any game that you can't get firsthand is perfectly acceptable...
Because here in Brazil, we avoid to buy games in stores because they are expensive due taxes and prefer to buy from street retailers which often sell pirated or stolen products which often are associated with other criminal activities. Such as making deals with security transport companies to steal products.
So, PT was a first person experience about exploring strange rooms that in the beggining they doen't seem anything unusual, but still makes you feel uneasy (since, you alredy know in a horror game) and as you progress, the things starts to getting bizarre and unnerving, and the Room stops being a safe place as you begin to been haunted by a supernatural pressence, and the more you dig into the backstory you realize it has something to do with a murder that has a relation with a counjuring that uses a sequence of numbers.
And Silent Hill 4 was excactly that but also with third-person sections, a great villain and intresting new concepts to add in the Silent Hill lore. How comes that PT is praised but SH 4 is the "black sheep" from the series for so many people?
This was the one that got me into the series. Awkward gameplay.... a resounding yes. But everything else makes up for it in near spades!
Oh my god, calling Henry Townsend a Thunderbirds puppet might be the greatest gaming revelation of the 21st century
For a while I was thinking this was about Resident Evil 4, and I was entirely lost, as I tried to work out how Yahtzee and I got such different experiences from one of my favourite games of all time.
Bad Request also one of his favorite games of all time
Resident evil 4 is on everyone’s list of favorite games of all time
I loved SH2 for the game it was, but boi did I love SH4 concept. Even though I didn't beat the game, the first few hours when you enter and re-enter the room felt really unique and scary. Being trapped in the room while people around are just going on with their lives. I remember how you can look into the window and its normal life around, but you are trapped in hell. Great memories.
I still have my Silent Hill Collection on ps2. Came with 2,3 and 4. Better than the ps4 version
Ashuraman Is the Silent Hill Collection on PS4?
+Ora Saikatsu Not the original one, that one is ps2 only. The one on ps4(Silent Hill HD collection) only has 2 games and performs really poorly, it's barely an upgrade
Ashuraman I didn't know the HD collection was on PS4 lol I just thought it was PS3 only
+Ora Saikatsu You are correct, my bad, it's ps3 only.
At least the escort portion doesnt actually require you to protect her. She wont die, she just becomes more and more unstable the more damage she takes, which doesnt affect you until the final boss, potentially making her impossible to save.
Silent hill 4 is now for sale on GOG
Nice, wonder how that happened
@@wilsonkierankitsune here's hoping that silent hill 2 and 3 get a digital release soon. Possibly before Halloween. I hope they put Shadow of Memories on GOG
@@Megaspartan23 hopefully
@@wilsonkierankitsune I'm worried that konami might just port the god-awful HD edition of silent hill 2 and 3 to pc. If that happens, the modding community will fix that.
@@Megaspartan23 well you know what they say: FucKonami
It definitely will always have a special place in my heart as my first "new" Silent Hill game. I remember being completely surprised seeing it in the case at WalMart and saying "Oh, you're coming home with me, little guy."
Please buy my games. Meth is expensive!
More than any other Silent Hill game no.4 really nailed the 'trapped in a literal nightmare' feel. (Though god DAMN the PC controls were fucked.)
I’m convinced this game is about social anxiety. Wanting to leave your head, seeing people around you, wanting desperately to interact with them, but not being able to do so.
Silent hill 4 is just one of those trippy games that i cant ever forget , it may not be as good as the others but it definitely wins on the weird factor
"This industry never learns anything tee hee hee"
Dat was a fine good 'ol self ref'rence, matey !
While I do feel guilty for buying second-hand, a lot of the time it's out of necessity. In a world where new console games cost upwards of sixty US dollars to buy, I often find myself torn between paying rent, buying food, or buying a game. Normally, I can usually do two of those just fine, but the third has to go on the shelf. Every now and again, I save up enough to indulge myself in a new game, but then it seems like forever before I can pick up another one. Secondhand games cut that time in half.
It's like buying cars - I still believe that people who buy brand new cars are either rich or idiots; probably both. There's always a recall on airbags in like two years, and the second you buy the fucking thing its value goes into the drain. Same with games. The second you buy the disc, it's worth a quarter of what it was before you bought it.
As for supporting the developers - fuck them. Especially in today's market. Hell, they'll make ten times of what I'd have given them just by selling the average consumer things that should've already been in that sixty dollar game.
He called Silent Hill IV "Slappy Bloom Blappy" so many times, I completely forgot the name of the game he was talking about for a little bit.
Did Yahtzee basically imply that we should pirate/emulate the game at the end there?
RE4VER I think he just doesn't think that buying a game second hand is better than pirating it since both don't give money to the people who made it
You are a poet. A very angry, but underappreciated poet.
The concept of your hub world becoming dangerous over the course of the game is freaking genius! Unfortunate that it only happened in a pretty bad game
'thunderbirds puppet' MURDERED ME lol
My favorite Silent Hill is Silent Hill 3. Everything is fine.
I tried to play 3, but lost my save at the hospital. I tried to play the first one, but got stuck on a piano puzzle. The only one I finished was 2, and I thought it was exellent.
Victor Kruger I would recommend going back and giving them a shot. The piano is the hardest puzzle in the game and you could always look up the solution online. Even though 3 is my favorite I do have to acknowledge that 2 is the best and the most accessible one especially for people who haven't played the series before. If you do go back to play the others try to avoid the HD Collection. The less said about that awful mess the better.
I don't get how people find the piano puzzle so hard. Once you read the poem and get the clues, it's all really obvious. I wish more games had neat little puzzles in them like that, instead of stick item here or match shape there.
Bluemoon in the Daylight I don't want you to misunderstand me. I wasn't lobbying for the abolishment of these kinds of puzzles in video games. I think it's also fair to say that just because something is easy and obvious for one person doesn't mean that's going to be the case for everyone. Despite the fact that I do think it's the most difficult puzzle in the game and often have trouble with it I enjoy solving it none the less.
I agree with that (though 2 is a close second). Heather is my favorite lead character of the series and the horror is relentless in that game, kept me on the edge of my seat playing it.
I... I think I've been waiting for you to review this for the past 10 years. I can finally die, fulfilled.
No Spappy-Boom-Blappy game will be better than Spappy-Boom-Blappy 2.
Mark Lumsley I agree that 2 is one of the best games ever but we should not limit ourselves you know
*Splappy-Boom-Blappy
SH4 gave us Room of Angel. Worth it all.
I feel like silent hill 4 would've been a much better game if Eileen was the main protagonist.
Splappy Bloom Blappy 4 is now my favorite
More Judging by the cover!
I miss good Silent Hill.
..... and Silent Hill at all for that matter. Agreed on all counts here. 4 has a special place in my heart (and PS2 collection).
...... and I just bumped into another comment I made 2 years ago. It's like I've been here before... a Silent Hill loop!
Finally! Someone fairly reviewing this game instead of just broadly calling it shit! As one of my favorite installments in the series, I get so tired of people acting like it's garbage. Especially when those same people talk about 3 as if it's a masterpiece, when I was personally luke warm on it.
-bizzare nightmare worlds
-leicester
Yeah, can't argue too much
I'd say the gameplay of Silent Hill 4 is a mixed bag.
The combat is perfect, it feels good, it's fun, and it works with the tone of the game and communicates things about your character.
On the other hand, unkillable enemies who hurt you by just being near you, and the second half of the game is an escort mission largely done through a bunch of areas you've already explored, and now you can't go back to your apartment to heal.
Glad to see some love for SH4, it was the most visually disturbing of the original series (1-4) and the Room was super creepy towards the end.
Downpour wasn’t terrible it was just poorly optimized. It honestly wasn’t scary either. I found doing the side quests actually made it better as they are more disturbing then the main plot. But it was just sort of okay.
It wasn't scary, but I actually liked the plot itself.
Liking just cos of the accuracy with the gauntlet reference
HEY! Extermination wasn't bad, well I'm not sure, never got to complete it because my dad broke it in half and threw it behind the dresser while I was playing it.
Mr.Death
Well, you weren't playing it anymore if he physically took it out of the console to break it 😂
MachonyLeeoun not exactly, older consoles allowed you to continue playing the game without the disk. This is because the console loaded that segment of the game and didn't need to read the disk until it got to the next loading screen
It was great because you could take out the game and put in a music cd and it would play that music instead.
This is one of the few ZPs where Yahts uses the actual model of the game character instead of a ZP style counterpart
The Room is probably my least favorite out of the Team Silent games but it's treated like the black sheep of the franchise and it deserved so much better.
I thought it was pretty obvious that the first four SH games are seen as basically a different series to the post-Team Silent ones. Even the worst Team Silent game is a thousand times better than any American title.