This video was super helpful when I swapped my Japanese COMAND head unit in a W209 against an Android unit. I found that I did not need to use any physical ACC, illumination, or reversing camera, wires, since all these respective states/signals are communicated over the CAN bus and the Android unit receives them via the CAN bus module. So, for instance, the buttons on my Android unit light up, when I turn on the headlights of the car, even though I did not connect any illumination wire to the head unit. Same with the reversing camera; its signal is automatically displayed on the Android unit, since the latter knows when to switch to it based on CAN bus information. One essentially only needs to find the following from the Japanese car: 12V, GND, CAN high and CAN low (one also needs the antenna amplifier wire but only if one does not get the MOST converter to work). The Android unit will turn on when it receives a signal from the CAN bus module (which in turn receives it via the CAN bus wires). It won't use the 12V constant power permanently, unless one uses a "sleep mode" to make it turn on faster. The two CAN bus signals can sometimes be obtained from nearby CAN bus hubs, but in my case it was easiest to tap into the CAN bus signals from the upper control panel (the one with the hazard lights switch). I cannot speak to the W220, but I would suspect that the CAN bus module would also take care of all the signals for ACC, illumination, and reversing camera. P.S.: For the MOST adapter, one should find ACC, in addition to 12V and GND, so my reduced wire list above was only meant to apply to the head unit.
hi, I am installing one of the latest Xtrons units. Its very similar. In your video, you dont cover the FM antenna connection. My can is also a Japan import W220 2004. I can easily identify the factory plug on the car.....but its nothing like anything on the Xtrons unit. Xtrons do supply an adpater that fits on the back of their unit, but the other end is nothing like the Mercedes plug. Do you remember what you did ? Thanks
I just did the same setup today on a friend's car, but the steering wheel wires that I pulled from the HVAC as your instructions didn't work, they just made the HVAC go off. Any idea which would be the steering wheel wires other than the brown/brown&red wires from HVAC?
hi. good video. do you remember the colors of the canbus wich one is wich on the xtrons? and the second thing: what for you are using fiber optic decoder box? thanks a lot
I am interested too! I got huge problems with steering wheel control, especially the seller cannot help me. I have a built-in canbus decoder in the radio, with can bus protocol to choose. I found out, that pin 15 and 16 (I had comand 2.5 with d2b) are the right ones CAN - L and CAN -H. I had already android head unit, worked perfectly with external can bus decoder, now I got troubles. Even if I understood the functionality of canbus and radio, but with the new one I got my troubles. So please be so kind and show exactly how did you wired the green / black cable... (e.g. from iso connector to the radio? or directly with swc1 / swc2 cables etc.) thanks in advance!
Maybe a silly question, but why can't you just cut the Japan spec connectors off and splice the correct wires to the connectors that came with the radio you bought?
@@gabrielgodoy4238 Indeed, that is the Japanese band. You can set up the xtrons to whichever band you like in its factory settings--mine came preloaded for North America.
@Andrii Motornyi You are right, in my W209, the CAN bus module takes care of ACC, illumination, and the "display video feed from the reversing camera" - signal. Normally, head units require a signal wire from the reversing camera to tell them when to switch the display, but at least in the W209, the "reversing" state of the car is communicated over the CAN bus and the CAN bus module attached to the Android head unit picks that up.
@@coolcat23 true. Even if you'll hook up to the reverse signal wire it'll draw small current and bring up check reverse bulb fault. So, thats why everything must be hooked up via can bus box.
Great video. I am working on installing a universal android head unit in my US W220 2004. I used a fiberoptic decoder and have wired everything and all works. Two problems. My battery drained overnight. Could it be because I wired fiberoptic decoder to constant power per benzworld forum instructions? Secondly, since my unit is universal, it doesn't have a canbus module, therefore I lost steering wheel controls. Are these CAN modules car specific? Can I use one for a w211 or a VW? I had contacted some w220 AHU sellers and they wouldn't sell me just the CAN module. So I'm considering trying this...www.ebay.com/itm/273958559325
@@vegasjoey89139 I assume you have the BOSE MOST system. Depends on whether you want to keep your factory amp or if you want to replace that as well and your budget. If you want to keep it, you will have to get a fiberoptic converter module. I tried that but didn't like the sound (I'm an audiophile). So I returned the module, replaced amp as well and bypassed fiberoptic. Whatever your decision, Android headunits made specifically for these cars are really improving them.
@@vegasjoey89139 Here are two other resources but please do your research. www.benzworld.org/threads/android-head-unit-install-anyone-have-questions.2987683/ th-cam.com/video/o9wgwZ0Ecug/w-d-xo.html
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Very good pice of work I have the same trouble in my cl 50 year 2004 radio switch on gif a short time lthen off tepetitly the part no on my audio gateway unit A 231 870 38 89. Were would I get one second hang when fitted does it have tone prograhamed to the car I hoe you can help me tjsmkd
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This video was super helpful when I swapped my Japanese COMAND head unit in a W209 against an Android unit. I found that I did not need to use any physical ACC, illumination, or reversing camera, wires, since all these respective states/signals are communicated over the CAN bus and the Android unit receives them via the CAN bus module. So, for instance, the buttons on my Android unit light up, when I turn on the headlights of the car, even though I did not connect any illumination wire to the head unit. Same with the reversing camera; its signal is automatically displayed on the Android unit, since the latter knows when to switch to it based on CAN bus information. One essentially only needs to find the following from the Japanese car: 12V, GND, CAN high and CAN low (one also needs the antenna amplifier wire but only if one does not get the MOST converter to work). The Android unit will turn on when it receives a signal from the CAN bus module (which in turn receives it via the CAN bus wires). It won't use the 12V constant power permanently, unless one uses a "sleep mode" to make it turn on faster. The two CAN bus signals can sometimes be obtained from nearby CAN bus hubs, but in my case it was easiest to tap into the CAN bus signals from the upper control panel (the one with the hazard lights switch). I cannot speak to the W220, but I would suspect that the CAN bus module would also take care of all the signals for ACC, illumination, and reversing camera. P.S.: For the MOST adapter, one should find ACC, in addition to 12V and GND, so my reduced wire list above was only meant to apply to the head unit.
hi, I am installing one of the latest Xtrons units. Its very similar. In your video, you dont cover the FM antenna connection. My can is also a Japan import W220 2004. I can easily identify the factory plug on the car.....but its nothing like anything on the Xtrons unit. Xtrons do supply an adpater that fits on the back of their unit, but the other end is nothing like the Mercedes plug. Do you remember what you did ? Thanks
The xtrons unit came with several harness options. I simply used the one that fit.
what canbus protocol isthis car using?
I just did the same setup today on a friend's car, but the steering wheel wires that I pulled from the HVAC as your instructions didn't work, they just made the HVAC go off.
Any idea which would be the steering wheel wires other than the brown/brown&red wires from HVAC?
They aren't steering wheel wires, they are can-bus loops. You can tap the wires at any place there is such a loop.
You might be a lifesaver I recently purchased a Japanese Mercedes radio and I can't find the 220 S500 2003??
hi. good video. do you remember the colors of the canbus wich one is wich on the xtrons? and the second thing: what for you are using fiber optic decoder box? thanks a lot
I am interested too! I got huge problems with steering wheel control, especially the seller cannot help me. I have a built-in canbus decoder in the radio, with can bus protocol to choose. I found out, that pin 15 and 16 (I had comand 2.5 with d2b) are the right ones CAN - L and CAN -H. I had already android head unit, worked perfectly with external can bus decoder, now I got troubles. Even if I understood the functionality of canbus and radio, but with the new one I got my troubles. So please be so kind and show exactly how did you wired the green / black cable... (e.g. from iso connector to the radio? or directly with swc1 / swc2 cables etc.) thanks in advance!
I think they appear in the video. I used the canbus decoder from xtrons.
Maybe a silly question, but why can't you just cut the Japan spec connectors off and splice the correct wires to the connectors that came with the radio you bought?
I think that would have been more work!
I have a question, every Mercedes W220 needs a Can Bus box to keep the steering wheel controls?
I can't say for sure that it is the case for every 220, but I imagine so.
The FM Band in japan is 76-95 MHz right? Changing the head unit to a xtrons, this automatically will work with the US band 88.0 - 108.0 MHz?
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@@gabrielgodoy4238 Indeed, that is the Japanese band. You can set up the xtrons to whichever band you like in its factory settings--mine came preloaded for North America.
@@Lesasquatch Thank you
Do you think that will work in a 07 CLS 350 (w219) japan version? (The w211/w219 xtrons model)
As long as you have the same fibre-optic interface, yes.
@@Lesasquatch if i send you a pic of the back of the unit you will know if i had the same interface?
@@jesusmolas3836 look up online if your car has MOST system. If yes, then it's the same.
No need to plug illumination and acc, otherwise what for is the can-bus box in there?
Steering wheel controls mostly.
@Andrii Motornyi You are right, in my W209, the CAN bus module takes care of ACC, illumination, and the "display video feed from the reversing camera" - signal. Normally, head units require a signal wire from the reversing camera to tell them when to switch the display, but at least in the W209, the "reversing" state of the car is communicated over the CAN bus and the CAN bus module attached to the Android head unit picks that up.
@@coolcat23 true. Even if you'll hook up to the reverse signal wire it'll draw small current and bring up check reverse bulb fault. So, thats why everything must be hooked up via can bus box.
Great video. I am working on installing a universal android head unit in my US W220 2004. I used a fiberoptic decoder and have wired everything and all works. Two problems. My battery drained overnight. Could it be because I wired fiberoptic decoder to constant power per benzworld forum instructions? Secondly, since my unit is universal, it doesn't have a canbus module, therefore I lost steering wheel controls. Are these CAN modules car specific? Can I use one for a w211 or a VW? I had contacted some w220 AHU sellers and they wouldn't sell me just the CAN module. So I'm considering trying this...www.ebay.com/itm/273958559325
Im looking to upgrade my head unit in my 2004 W220 S55 do you have any advice on the install or what head unit to use?
@@vegasjoey89139 I assume you have the BOSE MOST system. Depends on whether you want to keep your factory amp or if you want to replace that as well and your budget. If you want to keep it, you will have to get a fiberoptic converter module. I tried that but didn't like the sound (I'm an audiophile). So I returned the module, replaced amp as well and bypassed fiberoptic. Whatever your decision, Android headunits made specifically for these cars are really improving them.
@@vegasjoey89139 Here are two other resources but please do your research. www.benzworld.org/threads/android-head-unit-install-anyone-have-questions.2987683/
th-cam.com/video/o9wgwZ0Ecug/w-d-xo.html
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I somehow forgot the password. I would love any help you can offer me.
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Very good pice of work I have the same trouble in my cl 50 year 2004 radio switch on gif a short time lthen off tepetitly the part no on my audio gateway unit A 231 870 38 89. Were would I get one second hang when fitted does it have tone prograhamed to the car I hoe you can help me tjsmkd