I've seen sec have their spare baton stolen chase a nerd from the bridge and back. But as soon as they saw the assistant go in maints they fucked off back to mama warden to ask for new baton
Note: Removal PR was made after a singe round, but not this one. I teamed up with other 2 lings and round was just like "Guide to Advanced Mimery" level of epicness. If only I hit that "Record" button. So I had to repeat this propably not so fun and interactive gimmick. I understart why it is a fix, since game mechanic of golems like no DNA via Genetics, cellular dmg immune etc. Still sad about Bananium golems.
Fucking annoying how coderbase's response to literally every imbalance is 'remove it" Maybe if they weren't retarded they could come up with better solutions
Getting something nerfed into the ground by dunking on the local powergamer is a ss13 rite of passage. Long time ago I found out you could, with some work, grow tomato contact grenades, stackable by the dozens in the botanist plant bag. I told a friend about it and the next day botany was already castrated.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
One time on bee I used the ghost goggles and some spraypaint to make a oujia board and interviewed a ton of different ghosts which lead to the cult that was on board being completely annihilated. The next time I played curator they would only show arrows pointing towards ghosts but not the actual ghosts themselves
A few years ago on TG I found out that plasma in a smoke grenade would create plasma gas each tick that the smoke was meant to dispense reagents, and scaled massively with size. After a day or two my pocket plasma floods were no more :(
You know exotic goats? Well, what if one of them was radioactive as fuck? Now make them spawn from radiation anomalies, which shoot a ton of particles. Oh, and make them able to spawn weaker ones that they can heal off of, because radiation heals them. I used exactly that to get it removed, because those things fucking SUCKED.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it) so yeah maybe, now that you mention it sucking golems technically shouldn't work either
@@edward9487 those were synths and they are basically cyborgs, they had organic parts merged with robotic ones, its why synthflesh was used to heal them and also heals other organics, synths are basically robots made out of organic based material. anyway, synths have been disabled on tg for 4-5 years now for a reason, so bad example
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
@@edk.2045 see this is the thing,there was at one point in time a time where everyone had access to something or another thats busted to use right,going with that if everything is OP,nothing is OP,it is then simply a matter of learning how to think outside of the box to be better at the game,this is something you have to learn genetics to understand,and it is FUN,an entire experience ruined because a bunch of people were too bald to kill a literal glass man
Nah, once they see livrah do something funny and unique they usually have to remove it because it will be seen literally every round for the next month if they dont.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
>find something fun >coders remove it >find something fun >coders remove it >find something fun >coders remove it >find something fun >coders remove it >can't find something fun anymore >quit game
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
this is what unironically happened to me. They patched out so much of the game I enjoyed that it wasn't the ss13 I fell in love with anymore, so I moved on
People always find a way to break something changing it makes people complain its too weak and removing it makes them complain its gone but keeping it makes then complain its still there its never actually a good balance change Dx
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
lol. ling can transform sting people into any DNA it has absorbed. So turn someone into someone else for example. Here they absorbed a Glass Golem DNA to turn people into Glass Golrn then kill them with brute damage strikes. brute does extra damage against Glass Golem and they break apart into glass shards upon death, so no reviving. 3 or 4 hits and it's game over for anyone transformed
The changeling armblade deals 30 damage. Glass golems take x3 the normal amount of brute damage from attacks. It takes a 100 damage to put someone into critical condition, and 200 to kill them. Additionally glass golems shatter on death, preventing them from being revived by other players. So by using one of the other changeling abilities to transform someone into a glass golem you can take them from full health to critical condition in two hits, and then permanently kill them with two more. Functionally this means you only need to land like two hits on someone to win, as getting knocked into crit is basically a death sentence at that point. (Golems in general also can't wear clothes outside of headgear and - I think - backpacks. Not nearly as threatening as the first thing of course, but it's one more thing to disorient and inconvenience someone even if they somehow manage to survive the encounter.)
fuckin hell, permakilling has never been so easy and accessible. 2 clicks was all it takes. Did you kill the original golem or did he at least get to play the game a bit?
clever use of bugs and un-intended mechanics. Golems have no dna, and you stung guy inside hardsuit, huh. Glad too see this fixed on server i play, but very funny to watch.
There's a few comments here saying "wah why do they nerf fun?" Tell me, would you want to be on the receiving end of this? Killed with absolutely zero chance of revival? Being pretty much ended in three clicks; one for turning you into a golem, and two to crit you - arguably LESS reaction time available than getting hit by a stun baton? Being rendered unable to shoot a gun to stop the threat because you're a golem? If something is more bullcrap than stun combat, you bet people are going to justifiably remove it. Sure you can argue that you can round remove with bombs just as well and quite effectively, but bombs take time to set up, and you can only do it once per bomb. Here, all they did was get a golem friend and an armblade, which is considerably far less effort. You can also argue that nobody is going to use this often. No. Once something is demonstrated to be extremely effective, it can easily become a meta. This is absurdly OP and it's a very good thing this bug was fixed.
Unless you are extremely lucky with Lavaland golems, this will take 30-50 minutes to get a shell via xenobio. Transform sting 50 chemicals(+20 for armblade), makes you use everything you have for one kill and regenerate it for next 10 minutes. In total per 1 hour round you can kill 4-5 people with it. So you can compare it with bomb setup and one-time-use. People just less salty about bombs cos it's less personal. It was effective gimmick, but not that strong as people see it in edited video.
@@LivrahYT I've generally been able to get tier 5 slimes within 30-40 minutes most of the time as a xenobiologist, but that's because I've mained xenobiology and I've learned of ways to optimize my xenobio runs a lot. If I get tier 4 parts quickly, that could potentially be sooner. But you basically have to be as sweaty as I am with the methods I use. While I haven't been on tgcode in a while, the server I played on is not that much different from tgstation's xenobio (although they still have things like self-recharge cells.) Otherwise, you could speed up the chemical production as a ling by chugging changeling sting for example - something you probably could've done easily even, since you started as a bartender in the instance of this video. You can also attempt for xenobio crossbreeds like the regenerative extracts to back you up as well, though I'd argue the luminescent bluespace ability is also pretty effective as I saw in the video. Lastly - if the issue was in the bug that you were able to extract DNA from DNA-less beings, you could arguably just make someone a plasmaman and it'd likely be just as awful. Probably wouldn't need to armblade them afterwards - just run away or teleport. I guess in terms of xenobiology absurdities you can do otherwise, there's still always the classic "advanced mutation toxin grenade + later water grenade" trick you could pull if you want to be a jerk, and glassing someone isn't that much different otherwise in terms of balance. Though gas masks are a hard counter to gas grenades - something commonly seen in your typical greyshirt.
So, because it was too strong and only like maybe a few people thought of it as a pretty good gimmick to eliminate with... People got rid of it because they probably thought EVERYONE would do it.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
Ahem. They'll remove being able to use anything. They'll remove movement. They'll remove ghosts. Remove joining the game. The station. All Z-levels. Items. The server. Its own existence as being a server.
Librah I love you but this shit singlehandedly ruined funny golem ling shenanigans because TG literally lets people make "boo hoo I fucking died" prs. Like they could've excluded glass specifically or something.
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Assistants are like the Vietnamese they know the maints better than anyone else
I've seen sec have their spare baton stolen chase a nerd from the bridge and back. But as soon as they saw the assistant go in maints they fucked off back to mama warden to ask for new baton
@@gazzmaz8830 bro I literally used to lure sec chasing me into maints just to banana peel and shank/revolver them as a assistant
You're a true gentlemen for not attacking the random engineers who just wanted to talk to you.
With round removal like this I targeted heads, sec and validhunters.
@@LivrahYT Based and clap the real antagspilled
@@LivrahYT you killed that assistant with the afro though. In the halls next to AI upload
@@omobus1403 well-known powergamer
@@LivrahYT got it, that was frederico
Note: Removal PR was made after a singe round, but not this one. I teamed up with other 2 lings and round was just like "Guide to Advanced Mimery" level of epicness. If only I hit that "Record" button. So I had to repeat this propably not so fun and interactive gimmick.
I understart why it is a fix, since game mechanic of golems like no DNA via Genetics, cellular dmg immune etc. Still sad about Bananium golems.
It wasn't very fun to getting literally get killed in 3 hits 1 minute after you arrive on station
@@colovorat shit happens it's space station 13 after all
@@colovorat skill issue
Big F for bananium golem stinging. Although it was beautiful. It was also pretty cancerous with self antaging and suicides.
Fucking annoying how coderbase's response to literally every imbalance is 'remove it"
Maybe if they weren't retarded they could come up with better solutions
Getting something nerfed into the ground by dunking on the local powergamer is a ss13 rite of passage. Long time ago I found out you could, with some work, grow tomato contact grenades, stackable by the dozens in the botanist plant bag. I told a friend about it and the next day botany was already castrated.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
One time on bee I used the ghost goggles and some spraypaint to make a oujia board and interviewed a ton of different ghosts which lead to the cult that was on board being completely annihilated. The next time I played curator they would only show arrows pointing towards ghosts but not the actual ghosts themselves
gay
A few years ago on TG I found out that plasma in a smoke grenade would create plasma gas each tick that the smoke was meant to dispense reagents, and scaled massively with size. After a day or two my pocket plasma floods were no more :(
You know exotic goats? Well, what if one of them was radioactive as fuck? Now make them spawn from radiation anomalies, which shoot a ton of particles. Oh, and make them able to spawn weaker ones that they can heal off of, because radiation heals them.
I used exactly that to get it removed, because those things fucking SUCKED.
oh, this was removed weeks ago on bee after multiple attempts at turning the entire crew into bananium golems.
Can't have shit on Bee.
After gold went down for good I went on acacia and did something similar
crunch
@@koolaidman10574 one year later and i still miss gold
@@megalobanter3997yeah same me too
Beware the glass maker and his horrible shattering claw.
*shatters into a million pieces*
"All fun things must come to an end." -Coderbus, probably.
another adventure from the best debugger in space station 13.
Whenever I watch your videos, I get a history lesson, and a lesson in badassery.
Thank you.
Simply a difference in game knowledge
God damn, that must be udderly terrifying; being turned to glass, then forced to watch as you're helplessly shattered.
Utterly terrifying indeed.
Are you speaking of the mammary glands of a cow? No? Then it's T, not D.
@@grammarnazi1495 nono, I was speaking in cow.
I didn't get this at first- transform stinging someone to a glass golem and then clapping them in this way is SO GOD DAMN MEAN, I LOVE IT!!!
reminds me of the sleepy pen c4 combo when it gibbed
What do you mean "when"? I've got some news for you... :)
what's next? do they disable the ability to suck golems?
today they take that, tomorrow they remove antags.
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
so yeah maybe, now that you mention it sucking golems technically shouldn't work either
@@XiaoYueMao last I checked there was a robotic race of people and THEY could be cloned.
Eh?
@@edward9487 those were synths and they are basically cyborgs, they had organic parts merged with robotic ones, its why synthflesh was used to heal them and also heals other organics, synths are basically robots made out of organic based material. anyway, synths have been disabled on tg for 4-5 years now for a reason, so bad example
Они заряжают пушку! Зачем? А, ОНИ БУДУТ СТРЕЛЯТЬ!
That is BRUTAL man, both in character and game-wise
if you keep making fun gimmicks there wont be anything left not PR removed in 1 year
Brought a whole new meaning to glassing the station
I like how so many videos end in "bugfixes"
Hahahaha this is super creative, I love it
It's a shame that every W for emergent gameplay gets nerfed into the ground right after,rip masterkey shotguns on the TX,we lost a real one
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
@@XiaoYueMao that's kinda a lot of words for taking away player agency
@@zzurge1173 in fairness, being able to permanently kill people within 3-4 hits isn't very fun for them
@@edk.2045 see this is the thing,there was at one point in time a time where everyone had access to something or another thats busted to use right,going with that if everything is OP,nothing is OP,it is then simply a matter of learning how to think outside of the box to be better at the game,this is something you have to learn genetics to understand,and it is FUN,an entire experience ruined because a bunch of people were too bald to kill a literal glass man
@@zzurge1173 if everything is OP then it's just a matter of who gets the first hit
real gamers don't need to min-max to become a god
Is sad how everything fun gets removed from TG.
The easiest fix would be...not letting you turn people in golems.
Nah, once they see livrah do something funny and unique they usually have to remove it because it will be seen literally every round for the next month if they dont.
@@npswm1314 Thats the exact fix applied.
@@harryboner8394 so the solution is to remove it and then stealth re add it?
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
Wooooooooo!
This is what I've been waiting for!
That's what it's all about! Woooo!
>find something fun
>coders remove it
>find something fun
>coders remove it
>find something fun
>coders remove it
>find something fun
>coders remove it
>can't find something fun anymore
>quit game
>k̵̼͈̈̓i̷̟͌l̴̤̘͕̍͘l̷̛̲͊̐ ̷̪̺̹̒̎̊c̸͍̔̃͜o̸̟̭̗̎̚͠d̷̮͆̀͆ë̸̤̣̜́̾r̶͇͍̅͝s̴̠̝͂̊͝
>find something fun
>enjoy
down with them i say
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
@@XiaoYueMao Fun is a bug in the eyes of the c*ders
this is what unironically happened to me. They patched out so much of the game I enjoyed that it wasn't the ss13 I fell in love with anymore, so I moved on
"they hate fun so they fix it" - imagine devs actually Adding more features like that?
"Ling"
"Free copium"
Absolute lad
Oh my god! So epic
yo technically you made them all into golems, which by the law of how golems work, they're all your subordinates, and so the last guy validhunted.
Damn
no he would be a golem without a master
That aint it chief
this is really cool but also really fucking horrific, as ss13 usually tends to be
By the cannon on preview I remeber about one of the guns in enter the gungeon for some reason...
Thats actually a crazy idea
Breaking news
Wow, this is savage
Devious
Как всегда хорош, и музон топ!
I think I'm starting to see a pattern, you find something broken, you exploit it, then the dev team fixes it
based
god i love livrah
Coders don't know balance. Coders only know remove, nerf, eat hot chip and lie
Very smart and relevent comment not many people realise that we live in a society nowdays.
People always find a way to break something changing it makes people complain its too weak and removing it makes them complain its gone but keeping it makes then complain its still there its never actually a good balance change Dx
@@CoastalCookie no brain excuses
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
@@MrEme. r/redditor
This is... quite effective. I can see why it was removed.
I wish I understood what was going on.
lol. ling can transform sting people into any DNA it has absorbed. So turn someone into someone else for example. Here they absorbed a Glass Golem DNA to turn people into Glass Golrn then kill them with brute damage strikes. brute does extra damage against Glass Golem and they break apart into glass shards upon death, so no reviving. 3 or 4 hits and it's game over for anyone transformed
The changeling armblade deals 30 damage. Glass golems take x3 the normal amount of brute damage from attacks. It takes a 100 damage to put someone into critical condition, and 200 to kill them. Additionally glass golems shatter on death, preventing them from being revived by other players.
So by using one of the other changeling abilities to transform someone into a glass golem you can take them from full health to critical condition in two hits, and then permanently kill them with two more. Functionally this means you only need to land like two hits on someone to win, as getting knocked into crit is basically a death sentence at that point.
(Golems in general also can't wear clothes outside of headgear and - I think - backpacks. Not nearly as threatening as the first thing of course, but it's one more thing to disorient and inconvenience someone even if they somehow manage to survive the encounter.)
@@Sweld549 @internetTAB thank you. Seeing the video again after these comments and things make a lot more sense.
a reverse glass cannon would imply impossibly high defense but barely any damage
Why kill tider at 3:10
Local powergamer.
yeah thats probably fair holy SHIT
Ggs
pure evil
Good ol' TG, where the players play in spite of the coders, not because of them.
still no match for the funny instant kill wand
Just waiting for a removal pr since its tg
Can this transfer genetic mutations?
Actually a solid question... I'm fairly certain no
Coders hate fun, simple as.
Lmao you got owned by a lizard
fuckin hell, permakilling has never been so easy and accessible. 2 clicks was all it takes. Did you kill the original golem or did he at least get to play the game a bit?
No ghosts was around so I asked an admin to enter the shell. He didn't have time to play.
Nice strat. A shame its no longer possible
clever use of bugs and un-intended mechanics. Golems have no dna, and you stung guy inside hardsuit, huh. Glad too see this fixed on server i play, but very funny to watch.
he did only use it on valid hunters. sec . head department so it's fair game
transformation nerf soonTM
А почему они роняли все свои вещи с 1 прикосновения? Абилка линга на ТГ?
Големы не могут носить ничего кроме слота головы-пояса-сумки.
@@LivrahYT А превращение в големов вот такое мгновенное было? Понятно, спс за ответ, эт очень находчиво было)
There's a few comments here saying "wah why do they nerf fun?"
Tell me, would you want to be on the receiving end of this? Killed with absolutely zero chance of revival? Being pretty much ended in three clicks; one for turning you into a golem, and two to crit you - arguably LESS reaction time available than getting hit by a stun baton? Being rendered unable to shoot a gun to stop the threat because you're a golem? If something is more bullcrap than stun combat, you bet people are going to justifiably remove it.
Sure you can argue that you can round remove with bombs just as well and quite effectively, but bombs take time to set up, and you can only do it once per bomb. Here, all they did was get a golem friend and an armblade, which is considerably far less effort.
You can also argue that nobody is going to use this often. No. Once something is demonstrated to be extremely effective, it can easily become a meta.
This is absurdly OP and it's a very good thing this bug was fixed.
Unless you are extremely lucky with Lavaland golems, this will take 30-50 minutes to get a shell via xenobio. Transform sting 50 chemicals(+20 for armblade), makes you use everything you have for one kill and regenerate it for next 10 minutes. In total per 1 hour round you can kill 4-5 people with it. So you can compare it with bomb setup and one-time-use. People just less salty about bombs cos it's less personal.
It was effective gimmick, but not that strong as people see it in edited video.
@@LivrahYT I've generally been able to get tier 5 slimes within 30-40 minutes most of the time as a xenobiologist, but that's because I've mained xenobiology and I've learned of ways to optimize my xenobio runs a lot. If I get tier 4 parts quickly, that could potentially be sooner. But you basically have to be as sweaty as I am with the methods I use. While I haven't been on tgcode in a while, the server I played on is not that much different from tgstation's xenobio (although they still have things like self-recharge cells.)
Otherwise, you could speed up the chemical production as a ling by chugging changeling sting for example - something you probably could've done easily even, since you started as a bartender in the instance of this video. You can also attempt for xenobio crossbreeds like the regenerative extracts to back you up as well, though I'd argue the luminescent bluespace ability is also pretty effective as I saw in the video.
Lastly - if the issue was in the bug that you were able to extract DNA from DNA-less beings, you could arguably just make someone a plasmaman and it'd likely be just as awful. Probably wouldn't need to armblade them afterwards - just run away or teleport.
I guess in terms of xenobiology absurdities you can do otherwise, there's still always the classic "advanced mutation toxin grenade + later water grenade" trick you could pull if you want to be a jerk, and glassing someone isn't that much different otherwise in terms of balance. Though gas masks are a hard counter to gas grenades - something commonly seen in your typical greyshirt.
This is so evil. Im actually glad they fixed it.
So, because it was too strong and only like maybe a few people thought of it as a pretty good gimmick to eliminate with...
People got rid of it because they probably thought EVERYONE would do it.
Real reason - one salty seccie PR'd so you can't do it anymore. He quit the game weeks after.
@@LivrahYT Don't we call that an IDED? A PR created because you died to it?
Feature too op?
1) keep it but make it so its harder to use or just weaker
2) remove it.
At some point TG "coders" will make a PR to remove all ways of movement from the game so they don't get killed by an antag after it gets merged XD
yeah fuck dem tg staff
this ones a real bug fix. golems dont actually have dna. its why they cant be cloned, messed with in genetics, get mutations, or take cell damage. ling dna stings shouldn't have even worked to begin with (probably some shit code allowed it)
@@XiaoYueMao Please stop spamming.
Ahem.
They'll remove being able to use anything.
They'll remove movement.
They'll remove ghosts.
Remove joining the game.
The station.
All Z-levels.
Items.
The server.
Its own existence as being a server.
@@edward9487 oh hi there, didnt notice you Mr. TH-cam moderator
I hate tgststion so much, they remove every little thing
Why the fuck are you uploading at 4 am
cry about it
Nanomachines, son! They make time go faster in response to exhilarated sensory inputs like this video.
@@Sashacoolguy_Games Ну не токсичь
His balls are like the pendulem on a grandfather clock. The bigger they get the slower time moves so video is released at different time.
@@petryshka9682 Да ладно тебе я же пошутил :troll:
Librah I love you but this shit singlehandedly ruined funny golem ling shenanigans because TG literally lets people make "boo hoo I fucking died" prs.
Like they could've excluded glass specifically or something.
Что за аура вокруг тебя была?
космическая мутация. так что он не терпит давления или урона от холода
Because Coders are removing a lot of cool content I can understand why content is being harder to make.
powergaming ewwwwww
;3
Devious