Do NOT Buy A Tesla
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Imagine buying the fastest accelerating car on the market and being shocked when you rip through tires after endlessly flooring it
You mean your Testarossa doesn’t get 50K miles out of a set of tires? 🤣
100k Dodge Demon 170 SRT 0-60 in 1.66 seconds and quarter mile in 8.91 seconds. McMurtry Steirling 0-60 in 1.4seconds and 7 seconds quarter mile.
The Rimac Nevera, Aspark Owl, Koenigsegg Gemera and even the Lucid Air Sapphire have quicker acceleration and quarter mile times.
@@THEREALZENFORCESapphire isn’t in production yet and the other cars aren’t mass produced sedans. I think the Plaid still holds the “fastest product sedan ever” title though.
@@ilmostro16The SRT Demon is faster than a Plaid lol. Just buy an M3 xDrive, perform an "over the air update" from MHD, and run 9s in the quarter mile
Exactly 😂 and I would eat my phone if that is standard stance on model s plaid 😅
What you describe about waiting 1-2 years for the price to drop is EXACTLY what Tesla wants you to do. At the beginning of production they can’t make that many so production costs are high but demand is high so they can charge whatever they want. Eventually, production increases, economy of scale takes over, margins improve, demand slows, so price drops. Moral is if you want to be the first to own a new Tesla model, be prepared to stomach insane depreciation because they price cars based purely on supply and demand.
This.
Tesla S started production in 2012. So, I should wait 10 years or so?
Tesla made it clear that it’s goal was to lower the price. !!!
Exactly. You pay your money, you take your choice. The car was obviously worth it to him at the time he bought it. Tesla don't promise to maintain prices artificially high if their production costs drop. This whole video reeks of entitlement.
@@jonathanridder The cost of the model S had dropped precovid. During covid however Tesla jacked up their prices because they could. The other manufacturers experienced it too but it was the dealerships that were adding the ridiculous ADMs to prices, the car companies besides didn't start jacking up prices till the end of covid during peak inflation. Now that interest rates have gone up and demand has dropped, Tesla is dropping prices to avoid idling their plants.
"On the way to race at thermal club..." 10 seconds later. "I don't race this car..." Stop the bullshit
i can't believe bro ranted about the price drop for 3/4th of the video. What next, iphone users complaining about Apple dropping iphone prices after a couple of years? You pay a premium for premium goods because you believe the price justifies what you're getting - if you don't, just don't buy it.
Rich guy complains that his expensive car depreciated too fast and the tires were out with a 1000hp powertrain😂
and he's running high performance low profile tires. for a reason. he drives *vigorously*
lol loving it 😂
This guy is an idiot... this is like watching a comedy show. I can't stop laughing at his stupidity for buying a 140k car, LOL! That right there is stupid in its own right. If it were a Ferrari or something like that, then okay, but it's a freaking Tesla, Hahahahaha! Usually, I feel bad for people like him, but I just can't because of his sheer stupidity! Every single car depreciates the second you pull it off the lot!
ya this guy looks like he put aftermarket rims on the car too... and uses super low profile tires.. and acts surprised... bet if he went down a rim size and used meatier tires theyd last 20k-30k miles. dude is a dousche the way he even talks is annoying.
He’s owned Rolls Royces, Ferraris, Lamborghinis and he’s FINANCING a Tesla?!?! What in the world is going on here?
I slammed my car on links with no adjustable camber arms and have no clue why im eating up tires 🤦♂️ They should recall you.
I 10000%agree. He is a little bit stupid.
Amen brother!
exactly what i was thinking too. tires wear like that due to camber. i worked at a tire shop and that wear pattern is a dead giveaway. this guys a retard
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Surprised a knowledgeable car guy didn’t realize he bought at the highest dealer markup era in modern history due to the supply issues at the time … all the dealerships from every car maker were jacking up their prices… now they can’t give them away
In 2021 many cars were going for well over MSRP as dealers added 30%-50% for high demand vehicles. You aren’t comparing unseen dealer markup during that period.
Exactly, Tesla just added the mark up themselves instead of a dealer getting it.
I had to replace the OEM 21 inch tires every 5k miles as well. I downgraded to the 19 inch rims and tires and the inner tire wear problem gone. The 19 inch tires now last more than 20k miles. Unlike the previous 21 inch wheels, which were a staggered configuration, the new 19 inch tires are square configuration so I can rotate them and make them last even longer.
Too much common sense...
U replaced the wheels? why didn't you just replace the tires.?
to be honest anything above 17-18 inches on a car is purely for cosmetics and has no benefits in performance, usability, comfort, range and durability at all
You get more range with smaller wheels as well. You probably gained a good bit of range for going smaller wheels.
My tires are fine. I just hate carrying the car everywhere I go.
Use OEM tires and rims and get your alignment set by Tesla and maintain air pressure as mentioned by manufacture
You must be fun at parties.
@@paulpieper4356 and you must be boring af
Does the camber issue remain today? Does the issue apply only to the 19" Tempest wheels? Some online forums claim the issue applies only to the 21" wheels, but they provide no evidence, and camber settings don't care about wheels, right?
Also, my philosophy is never buy a new car no matter the company… I should clarify… the amount of depreciation would be similar to a used one (of course there are exceptions). I am not saying everyone should buy a used car instead of new, all I am saying is that in my experience, buy a used car (if the odometer is less than 90,000 miles) can save lots of money… but whatever you do, make sure the used or new car isn’t a lemon
That's just being cheap.
nah man just go with a toyota, most reliable car company you'll find
@@micham8278 Possibly, but then again, the depreciation of driving a car off the lot… besides a 250GTO (Ferrari)… all for thought
@@bluegang2320 My brother likes his Mazda… (Japanese cars seem to be reliable)… or?
.The model s originated in 2012, hardly a "new car"! Put the bong pipe down amigo.
I think for Tesla cars it makes more sense to lease. That way you're not stuck with a huge loan in the event of a sudden price drop and can upgrade every few years to the latest model!
lease will get you with the balloon payment at the end, EV is just money in the bank for a lease too.
Leasing cars from US dealers is a very bad idea - unless you've got money to burn.
You need a bottle of wine to go along with this, for relaxing purposes only... hehe
He probably had so many and then came out in frustration 😂
Imagine you have this kind of experience with this company and still went ahead to pre-order the first-generation cyber truck. Honestly, as normal sane person, my first thought is either i don't believe his true frustration with his current car experience or this guy is so freaking rich and insane.
Amen!
Or just plain stupid, lacking all smarts and common sense. 10K in tires in 25,000 miles, duh, you have a LEMON or a vehicle. I We will never own an electric car, not until the grid is everywhere, maybe 2099 ? Cybertruck > Lots of Honda copy, the suspension, the under bed trunk and more. But wait, there are few delivered and few proven to be reliable. Not only is it an electric truck, it will get stranded without many charging stations and is not made to float. Deep mud nd soft sand, forget it.. FAIL
Imagine - all the horrible things that Elon has done and said since this guy bought the car and his main complaint is that it is costing him money because the price on the new cars has put him underwater. I assume that he can not see past the nose on his face.
We are budgeting and saving for an EV. I like the APP for Tesla more then the competitors, but I can not trust anything that they say - and that is a deal breaker.
Rented a MY and an Ioniq 5 for a week and enjoyed both of them - but Tesla has them beat on the charging front.
No. He is a content creator. He knows tens of thousands of potential views await him once he starts YT videos about his CT.
It's called business expense .he buys them to create content on TH-cam and generate views.
@VehicleVirgins : Tesla may have deliberately set the camber to such a high negative angle because it greatly improves handling when cornering. But I can see why the rapid tire wear would be an issue. Basically, you decide whether you want an inexpensive car for transportation, or an expensive toy for fun driving. But most buyers would probably never research this particular point, which is what makes it dangerous.
this MO is literally in Tesla's master plan/mission statement. Early adopters fund the price drops for the mass market. This is why i can now finally afford a Tesla, so thank you for your service to the greater good
Yeah but unfortunately, you are now stuck with a Tesla
@@Ricky-mo6mv Oh, the humanity
Tesla model S is like a Camry. This is why trade in is horrible. There's literally tons of used Teslas for sale. I also overpaid for my Model 3. Line waiter and Tesla took my $7,500 federal incentives as they baked that into their MSRP at the time.
@@Ricky-mo6mv not yet… next month hopefully 🙏 and I hope I’m stuck with it for a loooong time
@@Franklinsone The entire EV revolution is stacked up against the consumer. I can only guess that people were/are so intrigued by the “technology” that they were willing to take a risk. Not to mention the environmental propaganda being pushed by governments worldwide. Obviously, the wealthy population are the ones jumping in, and likely won’t feel the impact of owning a vehicle that is more of a secondary mode of transportation. Even still, I don’t like seeing the direction of any of this.
correction...it's price is 62 grand, and you owe 100k + interest. Some of you need to look at an amortization chart sometime and see that you are paying at least double the loan amount when you add in interest. Loans are always a bad idea.
Taking Tesla's loan option seems beneficial to me because in my case I would invest the money that I would be temporarily saving for that purchase.
If you take right now the Model X Plaid for example, you have to put down roughly $15k-$20k, and pay ~$1,250 a month over 8 years (so $120,000 over 8 years). The total cost will be about 22% higher than purchasing it in one go (so $33k more, which is not double at all btw, no idea where you got that from), but you can make a hell of a lot more than $33k within 8 years by investing the $120,000 you don't spend immediately.
So loans are a blessing if you know how to invest.
You can buy new arms to reduce camber.
I have a p100d since 2017 I am only on my second set of 21" tires , the inner side of rear tires did get worn also but at 48 thousand km, not too bad.
Am considering changing the camber.
It's difficult to understand how a person with such little actual vehicle knowledge has 2+ million subs.
It's his lovely voice. So relaxing to listen to. 🙂
I was just thinking the same thing.
@@Thankz4sharingso true
He bought subscriber bots.
Look at how few comments and likes there are compared to subs and views.
His father is a multi millionnaire.
Thank you Tesla for actually doing what you promise and reducing the price of your vehicles. 😍
@@howard5992 That's the average Tesla fanboy.
Any sane person would never ever buy a Tesla again after this.
There’s a reason why most people who buy a Tesla never buy another brand again, they’re far superior products.
@@diegoolivarez1wat u talking about🤣🤣. People are re selling them like crazy online. Some with only 40 miles on them.
@@stevenrivers8386 Anecdotal evidence isn't really evidence big dog! Tesla easily has the highest customer satisfaction rating and repeat buyer rate, a quick google search of "tesla repeat buyers" and "tesla customer satisfaction" can save you a lot of heartache. Or,,, maybe just keep yelling over the internet, maybe it'll change people's minds, idk :)
I had the same issue with my MS3. Camber is meant to aid when taking turns at high speed but the sacrifice is high tire wear from everyday driving. Also the stickier the tires the faster they wear. It’s shitty but performance vehicles come with a high level of maintenance.
Elon was talking resale on cyber truck at 39k 😂
“DO NOT BUY Tesla”… I’m currently own Tesla Model S and I went through many headaches and hassles. After I did a over the air update and suddenly my heat doesn’t work. I bring my Tesla to the dealership and it will cost $2400 to fix. Not just Tesla expensive to fix but they lower their price at the end of the year so they can met their goal numbers so the shareholder could benefit. Also, TESLA it’s losing values the most out of other auto manufacturers. So my advice to whoever looking into buying Tesla is doing your extensive research and homework. But for me, I will never buy Tesla again. 👎🏻🙏🏻
Anything with Elon Musk is corrupt
I've bought and sold my share of cars for over fifty years, and the one thing I've learned is never rush into any "new" innovative auto design offering especially with the EV craze where we are just beginning to uncover all the cadavers lurking within that system.
Elon fanboys gonna kneel, it's sorta what they do.
@@humanonearth1some people are smart and wait, and some people act like whining little girls. 😂
You smart 👏 unlike some whining little spoiled girls complaining because they couldn't wait for the prices to go down like they always do. Whaa..whaa.. 😂 he's probably single or has a prostitute for a partner because nobody could possibly stand being around this person for two minutes. Ugh! Someone please tell the little girl to shut their trap.
Facts
It's like Apple 🍎, in fact telsa is a apple iPhone On 4 wheels
I have 2022 model S LR and had two flat tires. Both times there were nails in them. 19 inch wheels is better than 21 inches. I am glad I chose the LR vs. plaid. LR is crazy fast enough (0-60 in 3 seconds).
The thing with gap insurance is if you wrecked your car your regular insurance would pay for an equivalent replacement car. You could continue to make your payments on $140,000 and have the $62,000 replacement car exactly the same as the one in this video because that is what it is worth.
An avid car buyer, and doesn’t ask about gap insurance during a purchase. Could you imagine?
Rich guy problems, I guess... 🤷♂️
@@jasonl4571 Rich? With a car on finance, and super concerned about depreciation? This is somebody heavily in debt.
@@mikelovesbaconhe has a half a million cullinan hes not broke 🤦
@@mikelovesbaconlol I doubt he’s broke…he sound like he’s been rich since he’s been born.
Well never mind lol I just went to his TH-cam. Buddy been doing millions of views for years 😂
Camber necessary for hard cornering. You can always realign rear suspension,and run higher profile tires
lol at your “my new cybertruck” videos on your profile after watching this 😂
This is what happens when you change wheels from stock with obviously different back spacing and lower the vehicle. It happens on most cars that are modified in this way.
That’s what I was thinking. He only mentioned it once.
@@lukeatmadik4644if it was a matter of weight then something else like a Chevy Tahoe would have the same problem. His wheels stick out more than the stock wheels do, so there is more leverage. He even said the camber is off. If he would put the stock wheels back on and have it at the normal ride height, the tires would last a lot longer.
You'd get fined here in Switzerland driving around with a wheel configuration like that. My Model S doesn't have this issue.
Did you miss the point where he said these are 100% factory spec wheels that you can option the car with?
The wheels are stock config, car is stock, car isn't lowered, it's just you didn't watch the video bro @daveragsdale7970 lmfao
I have a 2013 S P85+. It comes with 21” staggers. Looks nice but obviously it’s got the same rear tire issue, because you can’t swap them to the front. I ended up buying a used set of classic model S 19”s. No issue since…. Ride much smoother with less road noise.
And NOBODY but a full time race car driver could ever tell the diference in handling
I have my second Tesla Model S now, and no other car makes sense to me... I did buy adjustable camber links (for less than $300) on my first Model S that solved the negative camber issue. Tire life is around 28,000...
Honda & Totoya, less complaints,reliable and enjoy cool ride with no range anxiety! One of my friend has a Toyota 300000 miles with Toyota no major issues. Built To Last! Tesla - I feel you do not save money with gas because you paid all that in one shot to the dealer. 😂
Happended to my mothers Tesla model X within the first year.
Tesla service accused her of "aggressive driving"... only time I've seen her aggressive was when she responded to that claim in the service office
how can it be agresive driving when the inside is worn out..
Nonsense. I track my Tesla, have videos of me doing donuts and drifting, driving off road, and Tesla service has never once questioned anything with warranty claims.
Tires aren’t made by Tesla, and the S and X have an adjustable ride height. It’s not their responsibility if you drive around on the lowest ride height and don’t keep your car in alignment.
anecdotal fallacy
This has been another episode of First World Problems.
Tune in next week where we discuss what to do when your maid calls out sick.
Comment of the day :)
Not really. In the US, many buy cars they actually can't afford and take out huge loans on them - to them, having > 30 k $ negative equity in a car can be serious trouble.
The problems of accelerated depreciation after the manufacturers cut prices isn't new. It probably goes back to the golden days of the Ford Model T when ole' Henry lowered prices whenever some innovation would reduce production costs by a few bucks.
In Europe, FIAT did pretty much the same with most of their mass models in the 2000s and 2010s. Initially, they advertised New models like a must-have fashion article and when demand dwindled, sharply lowered prices to maintain sales - with early buyers ending up holding cars much longer than they would have liked to.
Comment of the year lmao. Guy with a 130k car bitching about its value dropping and maintenance costs. I can’t…
@@doomsday9973 You could - if you were imprudent enough to buy one on borrowed money.
Don't assume that people buying a 130,000 $ car can afford to do so. Many who do can't - and with 30 k $ negative equity in play, theft or an accident can be ruin.
@@notroll1279 this guy is not one of those people lol. That’s who I’m referring to.
Thanks! Finally someone tells the truth. On my Tesla P85D, almost $10,000 on tires to go 100,000 miles! That's why I did not buy a new Model S Plaid. I checked and sure enough 9 years later Tesla's Model S performance car STILL DOES NOT HAVE ADJUSTABLE REAR CAMBER ARMS! How can this be?
I'm 63 and I haven't spent $10,000.00 on tires in my WHOLE life. My current car a Ford 2016 Explorer that is an 4WD model with 89,000 + ml and it's still on it factory tires. Here in Miami some people are only getting 700 to a 1000 miles on a set of EV tires. It seems the rubber compound doesn't like the hot Florida roads.
buy the right treadwear tires. i buy continental sports i used to buy for my high hp bmws and put it on my tesla awd lr and so far so good.
They Hot Rod the Tesla because they never had a fast car before! Mostly Young Punks Blowing their money what little they have after rent and Beer
I’ve never heard of someone being mad when a company lowers their prices when inflation goes up. Salute to Elon for lowering prices instead of raising them😊
I think the people getting mad are the ones who bought before the price drop.
@@GONExTOxMYxHEAD prices are always higher on newer models and technology. That's why I always wait for others to pay for the companies recoup costs. 😂
I’ve never heard of someone outside of said situation be happy that others got gooped.
@@dyrandoms Do you also get butthurt when prices of electronics (which an EV is) drop year after year? It's just expected as technology improves, especially for old products. If you're an early adopter, prepare to pay extra for the privilege.
@@mariusvancyeaaaaa but consider those who’ve bought other Tesla vehicles that weren’t new vehicles that also took a loss. This isn’t an isolated situation for the Plaid. All vehicles had price increases. No “privilege” there.
Poor baby. He bought something he couldnt afford.
Are u stupid?
Thanks for making me aware of this problem. What;s Tesla like with spare parts?
Fantastic feedback! I had both a TMS Plaid+ and a Tri-Motor Cybertruk on order, but canceled both in succession when the Plaid+ dropped out and the Cybertruk didn’t make EU specs. Have considered the TM3 Highland but seeing this I think I’ll just keep away from Tesla altogether. Thx!
A lot of “regular” cars had huge markups in 2021. Now, they are discounted below msrp. How is that any different than Tesla? You can’t negotiate Tesla prices, so their online prices have fluctuate with market demand. How is that hard to understand? Everything was inflated in 2021, Tesla vehicles were no different.
sounds like a great time to buy a plaid!
That's exactly what I am feeling!
Get the 19s or 20s though and the Gap insurance. @@micham8278
It is a great time to buy a plaid bc its the end of the year were they are trying to get rid of inventory.
Boi can’t afford Lamborghini 😂😂😂
@@simp2234boi will be faster than a Lamborghini 😂
7 years ago I told everyone that EV's were a scam. 7 YEARS AGO!. Glad you all are catching up. LOL.
in what sense is it a scam
In USA electricity is made by burning fuel fossil anyway, so it's not better for the environment in the end
@@carlahaiduk1878you think having a little oil based power plant in millions of vehicles is better for the environment than a few larger more efficient coal/natural gas power plants?
a guy created magnetic motors in the 1930's we can create solutions or argue back and forth forever about gas vs electric like retards..
@@carlahaiduk1878 So... there's absolutely ZERO renewal energy in the US huh....?
www.energy.gov/eere/renewable-energy#:~:text=Renewable%20energy%20generates%20over%2020,the%20first%20time%20in%20history
Damn. That wheel fitment hella flush bruh. Legit af 😂
The camber issue is a problem (though note that you said “factory spec” and not actually using factory wheels. If this happens with factory wheels then it would be worthy of a recall) but also, the plaid is a toy. There’s cars twice the price with worse problems and worse performance.
Imagine saying you are intelligent and at the same time you say "I own stock in the conpany" and "Do not buy major car products in that company!"
for the 1st time I'm considering buying a Model X & changing my superb 2015 Mercedes ML which has been brilliant, great video !
Had the exact same problem in my Chevy Volt, just buy 4 tires once, you never rotate the tires ever, you just need to replace the 2 front tires , twice a year… problem solved, don’t rotate tires ever, back tires stay brand new forever
By the way, I upgraded to the Tesla Model 3 long range, I know that I will have this problem with any electric vehicle, save yourself this tire flaw, never rotate tires, big mistake, buying 2 tires is a lot easier than replacing 4 ❤❤❤😂😂😂 and now you know!! 😅
Sorry, I used to love your videos, but this one is just ridiculous. Being an early adopter of the world’s first premium sedan priced hyper-car, then crying out because of the recent price drop is just childish. As a Tesla investor you should have known Tesla is scaling up production of every model by letting it partially finance by early adopters. It was the case with the early model S, X, both S and X performance versions, even with the model 3 performance. Why should it be different with the Plaid. On the other hand, talking about alternatives to the Plaid, there are literally none. No premium priced sedan with hyper-car performances. You could alternatively go for fully speced “slow” Amgs and Bmw M, which all cost more than the Plaid, however they all have close to 50% depreciation in two years time regardless of new car price development. At least in Germany you can’t sell a fully speced two years old E 63 Amg for more than a 50-55% of a new one, for a simple reason, coz. more than 90% of those cars are leased, and only very few people would actually buy it.
Regarding tire wear, it seems you keep forgetting you drive a 1000+ hp car with hypercar performances. This car’s performances are only comparable to something like Bugatti Veyron, however Bugatti is a pure two seater hypercar, and it’s suspension is set to be used on track. Contrary to that, Plaid is a comfortable sedan which needs to provide decent comfort comparable to that of an E class Mercedes or 5 series Bmw. Those are completely opposite requirements when comes to suspension settings. On top of that, Plaid comes standard with an height adjustable air suspension, meaning actual camber is being changed considerably between the two extremes, the lowest and the highest suspension setting. And here comes the catch, while the car needs to provide reasonable camber also in its highest suspension setting in order to ensure safe road holding when all 1000+ hp are released in a curve, in its lowest setting the camber will of course be more extreme which would lead to a higher tire wear. But that’s the case with all powerful premium sedans which need to provide decent wheel travel. It had been the case with all my Bmws M, and it’s apparently even worse with Audis RS. It’s also the case with my Plaid, but far from that what I have experienced with M cars. now, it again depends on your air suspension settings. I usually set mine to the middle setting. However, it seems you permanently use the lowest suspension setting, and it looks like you have even lowered the suspension on your Plaid. This of course increases the camber again and causes excessive tire wear. On top of this, the tires you are using are way to wide, there’s literally no space between the tire and the fender left. In Germany that’s not permitted and the car would lose driving permission.
Hopefully this video was meant as a joke, it simply does not comply with the professionalism you have been providing through the years.
I think he was pushed on doing this video.
@@ricardosimon1975
Also there’s no denying that because content consumers love to rag on Tesla as of late, especially so called “car enthusiasts”, content creators are incentivized to make content that criticizes Tesla.
Had the tyre issue in my model s p100d too, price drops are weird and just push off loyal customers.
I keep mine due to free supercharging and needing to travel to regional area regularly.
Would rather a 992 911t but can’t be bothered.
If there wasnt a price drop I wouldnt be driving a Tesla now, and sometimes you have to pay to play early in the game. It sucks but you got to experience the awesome car early but on the other side had to pay the steeper price.
Is the tire problem still going on with the new 2024 plaids?
3:30 good that you are pointing this out. i drive a model 3 and i was woundering why my car is telling me to replace the tires i have done about 8k km with (about 5k miles) and i was about to ignore it, because it seemed like a bug to me or sth.
but now i am going to change them in a few days and have a look while not driving faster then 50 kmh(30mph).. i realy wounder if they look shredded as well!
Almost everyone who bought in 2021 paid more - most at dealerships that charged 10k+ called a market adjustment. Definitely more a timing issue than anything else. i agree that 5k on a set of tires is ridiculous though - glad you pointed that out. Hopefully Tesla addresses this issue. On higher speck cars in your price range they would sell for 30k or more over MSRP so your pretty close to everyone else. It was a good time to hold off, but you have also generated revenue through your videos on youtube so hopefully this helped you recoup some of the costs of the depreciation.
thats not a timing issue. only tesla does this.
i'm negative 30 grand on my plaid, i'm stuck with it
@@Van-life-4-Jesus thanks to elon
@@deficator750 There was a price drop, but EVERYONE was paying more for cars in 2021, new or used, EV or ICE. Dealers were charging insane markups.
Here is the title of the video where he lowered the car: I SLAMMED MY TESLA PLAID SO LOW IT'S DANGEROUS!
Another expensive toy. Most Tesla owners always say no oil change cost, no transmission fluid change cost, no maintenance cost, and no money left..
Have you tried N2itive’s camber arms ? Considering buying them cause I go through about 2-3 sets of tires a year
Love my 2023 model 3, dual motor, extended bat., I drive in chill mode. 18k on tires still look new
Rich people problems.. I bought a USED model 3 for 30k and had NONE of these issues
Totally understand your frustration. End of 2021 was a terrible time to buy a car, even though rates were so low. Used car prices were super inflated at the time, as well. On the flip side, there were a number of people who ordered Plaids when the price was $110k, but then got delivered when they were $130k but were locked into their original price, so they probably felt pretty happy then, and now their cars are down a more reasonable percentage from their purchase price. For me, a current model 3 owner, and former S owner, who wants to get back into an S, this drop is a blessing because used S prices are going to drop as well, allowing me to get much more car for my money.
When looking for a used model S I'd take this tire issue into account.
I think they fixed that issue with newer ones. They reworked suspension and frame. Also making it perform better on track.
Stay away from the used p85's
@@zbirdmusic Why is that? I was thinking at least a 100D, or P100D, or the newer 2020 Dual Motor.
Greetings from Europe. Unfortunately I can't say if this is 100% true, but it is a fact that here in Europe people are talking a lot about the Model 3 made in China and made in Germany. The difference in quality is said to be striking, and you will also pay 5,000 to 8,000 euros more for a new piece made in Germany than for a piece made in China.
I ordered my Plaid when ordering first started. The initial price was $120k, not $110k and then Tesla raised it to $130k at the Plaid event in June 2021. I got locked in at $120k even though the car was $10k more expensive when I picked mine up in Aug 2021.
I still love my model 3 and it has saved me tons of money! It is totally worth it if you are tired of spending monthly gas payments often over $200.
The first year of a *new model* is going to be the highest priced. If you want the best value, wait until the second or third year of the model run. If you have to be the first to have the shiny new thing, expect to pay big bucks for it, and plan your loan strategy accordingly.
I can't imagine spending that type of money on a car and then having to worry about a blowout due to a manufacturing issue. Especially since you know you're driving fast in that car that's a huge safety hazard
Ahhh, the truth finally takes a skinny dip in the lagoon of awareness. Bare and raw, the truth indeed. 😂🎉
Ford and Firestone?
Happens alot.
Idk. I've got a Plaid. I've also got a 2013 p85+. Those of us on the earliest models were well aware of the inside wear, but other than going through tires faster (just the rears and in 10k miles, not 5k), there was never a real concern, and I've never heard of a major incident due to this issue over the last 10 years.
I do think the variant of Michelins that are recommended has changed in the play decade, and that's helped. That might also help with the plaid.
What about adjustable camber bushings with 19" -20" wheels? Then change the alignment to factor tire wear? Has anyone been doing this yet?@@akrakenreleased
its not an issue... Parker has his slammed on lowering links. I haven't had this issue on my plaid.
Unplugged performance sells an adjustable rear camber kit. I have it on both my Teslas P100D and Plaid. You can reduce the camber and unless you are someone like Lewis Hamilton you cannot tell the difference. This increases the life of the rear tires. You can also swap the rear tires on the rims to change the inner contact patch to the outer.
Thank you for commenting facts and congratulations on your vehicle's
To summarize, he only has 2 reasons on why you shouldn’t
1. There was an issue with old performance tires that destroyed them, this has since been fixed prior to the publishing of this video so weird to include it.
2. They made it more affordable.
That tire wear looks like a Toe problem.
@@partymanau can you expand on that. I’m not very knowledgeable about cars
Thank you for the amazing video, you’ve completely changed my Outlook on Tesla
I test drove a Lexus GS-f today and your video made me feel good about potentially spending $40,000 on a bulletproof reliable 8 cylinder Lexus. I’ve never felt quite comfortable with Tesla.
I also like the 12 cylinder Toyota Century, what a wonderful car! 😁
Ya that's b/c tesla's suck. But elon bf's don't care.
@@humanonearth1 L😂L
The Great Elon lost one of his "boyfriends" in this video 😂
😂 This seems like *"The Toyota Corner"*
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Even when people do their homework, there is other crap 💩 that pops up that you didn't think about or know about.
I am thinking of getting a 2024 Toyota Tacoma, *_"but never buy the first series"_* .
So I will wait until the twenty twenty five's are on the dealership lots, and get one of those.
All negative issues should be addressed. 👌
Remember all the problems people had with the first series twenty twenty two Tundra 😳 🧐
@@humanonearth1 why do they suck?
Totally had a rear tire blowout in my "S" on Malibu Canyon road one morning taking my kid to school. Exactly what you are showing here is what happened to me. A year later I had to put $4,200.00 into suspension work, broken control arm, and all new bushings. Can't afford to replace the two headlights that randomly turn off and I have to manually turn them off and back on while driving at night.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Unreal.
Yeah I had two S's they just had endless repairs for years, I dumped Tesla a few years ago it's just not worth it in the long run. Maybe the non-S models are better? Someone else can find out.
Greetings from Central Europe. Considering that the Tesla car company has maintained the status of the most defective brand in the world, including the worst workmanship, from the very first year of production, and it's been like this year after year, and the worst thing to choose is the S model, I have to ask: What are you surprised about? What did you expect? With all due respect = you got what you wanted, so enjoy it. If I didn't hear the same thing every year = what a disaster Tesla is, then I would feel sorry for Tesla owners, but I can't feel sorry for anyone like that.
@philjamison7893 dont you have warranty on the car ?
@@Mijanboy I am not sorry for Tesla owners because they are mostly dicks who brag they drive a Tesla
Two points. First you are paying the early adopter tax. Secondly Elon musk has been telling people his plan is to reduce the price of his car is aggressively, and he's been saying this since day one.
Tesla model X plaid 2022 owner and like so many others I’ve seen the car depreciate by about 30 grand and in less than two years I’ve owned it. Besides the fact that you don’t get the advertised mileage, I’ve dealt with a plethora of issues with the car breaking down so much to point where I’m returning the car under lemon law. Tesla offered to Repurchase the vehicle. Luckily, I’m receiving all my money back l, minus the PPF install and winter tires that I had to purchase because it just comes with the worst possible tires for winter weather in my opinion… Taking long trips to Vermont and I’m a snowboarder so yes, winter tires is a necessity. I do love the technology of a Tesla. I think they’re amazing cars, but in terms of range, they are just not quite there yet. I’d rather put gas in a car for five minutes than have to wait 20 minutes plus to charge my car each time on long trips… Time is money and there’s been times I probably get about 250 miles if that on an average of a 315 mile range that Tesla claims… That is just not good enough for me I read online somewhere by someone who put it quite well, Tesla is a rich man’s second car.
It’s not only with the plaid. I had the same on the p85D model s and on our model X p100D
We changed the arms and got some aftermarket rubbers combine with a bit offset tire set, that helps.
When set tire settings r calibrated with the air suspension on low it’s a bit better two
This should not be something the costumer has to handle. Name another company that has so much negative camber it destroys tires?
the inner wall of the tire wearing out used to happen to my old shitbox car that was slammed / too low. This was about 15 years ago. Wouldn't expect this from a modern factory setup for a car that is almost in the realm of supercars. Maybe telsa should investigate a camber kit so the rears can be adjusted to within a reasonable spec.
We bought our first Tesla Y just before the price drops started in 2022, and while slightly frustrating, it's always been part of Tesla's masterplan, and it doesn't stop me from wanting to continue buying Tesla's. It's an EV land grab for volume and Tesla has plenty of room in their margins to drop prices in order to maintain selling what they produce. The internal combustion vehicle production process has fully extracted all material efficiencies from the process, which is why you don't see manufactures dropping prices like Tesla can.
Dude i had the exact same problem on my lowered Model 3 with 20inch rims. Went through 3 sets of rear tyres in 1 year. Finally installed adjustable cambers and toe arms with a good non-tesla alignment... problem gone.
Agreed just like I said... Industry standard...
Gas cars don't have this problem how much you spent turkey
You lowered it. You messed with the geometry.
I subscribe to the *"Wham Bamm Tesla Cam channel"* .
There is a lot of accidents where the Teslas hydroplane . A known heavy car loosing their grip while #ICE vehicles Whizz on by N/P.
Now I can understand how this happens.
With the wear being inside and people who is used to #ICE vehicles, not having to rotate their tires all that much. Yes , now I can understand the hydroplaning. 😳
Take out some of the batteries so it weighs less and get a camber kit and tyres Will last longer.
I can second all of this 😂 although I switched to 19s and tire life is a peach.. still not ok. Great car, super convenient, got smashed on depreciation 😂
So you don't have the issue on the 19's? I actually have an order in for a new plaid and went with the 19's cause I figured the tire price alone would be annoying for the 21's, didn't even know about this issue. I drive a lot so if I have to change tires every 5k miles it would be basically every 1.5 months or so lol
yeah not a single issues on the 19s@@esk1mo
7k miles Plaid on my 19s, all good.
Pissssssssed about the depreciation, worst ever. Most likely cancel my Cybertruck Beast since they screw us over in price drops
Quit whining and keep the car,why should someone else buy your discards.
@TrackSlayers All hail the king of the ring! Show your respect to this man everyone. Mans has the world record for the nurburgring lap time and daily drives a plaid. envious
I agree 100% it happened to me when I wrecked my model 3, insurance paid portion of the car and I was stuck with a 6k bill to wells fargo and no car
It's like buying an Iphone 14PRO when it first came out for $1500, then findout that apple dropped the price 1 year later to $600. Yes, you get first dibs, but you have to pay for it.
Would a good alignment shop not be able to sort the rear TOE (rather than camber) out? As it’s the toe that comes with aggressive camber that kills tires, and not the camber itself.
All RWD/AWD cars have adjustability for this, so I’m sure it takes a shop that know what they are doing to adjust correctly and away from the incorrect factory setting.
I had this issue on one side and on the alignment rack it shower a lot of toe which was sorted and hopefully resolves this issue
To be fair if you can afford a Rolls Royce Cullinan then you probably live with the 40% price drop and 8000 km tyre changes but am deeply appreciative of your vlog as I could never justify spending endless money and parting with my beloved 16 yr old Hyundai i30.
But then you cant make a yt vid bleating like a woman about how unfair it all is.
Everyone knew the value would plummet due to how quickly EVs are advancing.
I owned a Tesla Model X from 2016-2021, the best car in 40 years, no issues, no range anxiety, no charging in the cold problems, the Falcon Doors worked flawless. The Tesla X saved my life going 65 mph in Kansas City on 435 south loop. A very large Church like chair fell from the back of a truck. I did not have time to respond but guess what, the car steered left to avoid the chair crashing into my windshield and likely severely injuring me or worse. Then steered back into the original lane to avoid a car to my left rear blind spot. There no amount of features better than collision avoidance. For Tesla its routine to help its drivers, its built into the design of this EV
Would switching to OEM 19” wheels solve your problem - I’d really like to know. I pick mine up tomorrow 😱
No problems on 19 inch rims I think this guy from the video is just making up bs
Tesla was never well known for build quality, handling or vehicle dynamics. Just being electric and going quickly in a straight line. I’m guessing as more people catch on about this, the depreciation will get worse and worse….which we’re starting to see now.
Facts
The tire issue is life-threatening, but the depreciation you can get over.
that isn't depreciation per se, they dropped the new car price
It's commonSENSE it will devalue
Devalues because the brand is too cheap to upgrade the body style even after 10 years!
Devalues becuz other big hitters are releasing luxury evcars full of outstanding tech like Mercedes
I recommend buying a Bugatti Veyron = it will train you perfectly on the topic of tires. You'll just have to watch...
You are correct but its about $644 to get the adjustable camber arms, problem fixed. Yes you bought at the time it was at it's highest price. Pay cash and don't worry about it.
You got a luxury car, you pay.
We seen your videos, and we know damn well did you’re racing that plaid drifting burning tires and all types of crazy shit in that plaid.
Its almost as if buying a car brand new instead of second hand is the most well known waste of money
With my Model X P100D from 2018 I had the exact same issue: Tires every 6/7000 Miles a new set, Insane with that tire damage on the inside. Some people say it can be solved by lining the car. Never tried it. Regarding the price drop had the exact same in 2018 like 4 or 5 months after purchase the price of my Model X dropped from 169.500 Euro at that time to 129.500! In 4 months! Insane! With Tesla you have to wait for a longer time before purchasing a model.
Idk I have same tires on my car for 20k miles. 2020 model s long range plus. Something was up with your balance or something maybe the big rims or the plaid thing I’m glad I didn’t get a plaid.
I'm so sorry you're experiencing economical backlash buying a Tesla S, a CT and a Roadster. poor you :(
Looking healthy man, been a while since I watched one of your videos. In regards to the video, you can usually get gap insurance through your automobile insurance (and it is usually way cheaper). Speaking of the lower price, just look at it like you were rich enough to buy it before the drop. 99% of the people out there cannot even buy it at the lower price if it makes you feel better (in other words not many people are going to cry tears for someone in the 1% complaining about losing some money).
So true....
healthy? hes balding
in nz we can go to a tyre shop and they can set up the suspension correctly, i dont know why they dont do that in the us
You can check your own wheel alignment at home with a string or chock line, with your tires on that car you should have about 1/16" gap on front of wheel for tow in. I can tell by your tread you have one side of the tire out of balance and excessive towin. I gotta think if you bought a car for over 100k did you overcharge your customers?
I'm pretty sure those rims you are running aren't OEM. You can even see those rims don't fit the car, why would you still run with them? No wonder you'll get tire issues. Also if the camber is an issue, get it aligned properly. About the depreciation, nobody told you the car wasn't gonna depreciate in value so why would you cry about it.
The other thing about Tesla, like no other manufacturer. Is within a model year, they are making improvements. So the year you bought, costs probably were a lot more. As they improve manufacturing and costs come down, they can reduce the vehicle price.
That seems less of an issue as the tire problem.
As for gap insurance. I didn't think they ever offered that at the bank. That is something you talk to your auto insurance company about (at least that is how I've always understood it).
Great video. I wasn’t sure what to expect when I clicked on it - I love my Tesla. I have a MX which has a similar issue with the tires, so I think not as bad. My rear tires went down to the wires sticking out without me realizing it. Never had a blowout. But noticed the leaking air. It’s definitely frustrating the insane price drops. And Teslas refusal to acknowledge / fix either of these issues
Might not be supply and demand might be just that a lot of people order them and they could scale up the production therefore lower the cost significantly. It's a new car company and difference between selling 50,000 cars or 550,000 is enormous
My Plaid with the 19s hasn’t had any of those issues in 35k miles. My yoke peal is the only issue I’ve had in 2 years. Love the car but the price cuts do suck big time for people like us that paid full price 😩
Allah ensures, dont worry.
nice for me i’m about to pick one up or maybe wait little longer see if they drop even more 😂 basically saved myself half the cost just by being patient, worth it.
You plaid double
You didn't pay full price, you over paid for a tweaked Model S.
You got your 15 minutes , I also would like to buy a toy that became an instant clasic and sky rockets in value.