They sold it for over 100k because they knew the Tesla fanboys would pay anything regardless of common sense. This should be no surprise to anyone. Good video though
Liked and responding because this comment needs to be higher up. Amateur with an amateur video vying for clicks. This dope fooled me into clicking too, but the top comments show this guy for what he is.
I bet you were smiling when you had the shiny newest thing on the block. Then all the kids got them and your toy didn’t seem so special anymore. Hard to feel sorry for a guy bragging about all his luxury car purchases.
What you describe about waiting 1-2 years for the price to drop is EXACTLY what Tesla wants you to do. At the beginning of production they can’t make that many so production costs are high but demand is high so they can charge whatever they want. Eventually, production increases, economy of scale takes over, margins improve, demand slows, so price drops. Moral is if you want to be the first to own a new Tesla model, be prepared to stomach insane depreciation because they price cars based purely on supply and demand.
Exactly. You pay your money, you take your choice. The car was obviously worth it to him at the time he bought it. Tesla don't promise to maintain prices artificially high if their production costs drop. This whole video reeks of entitlement.
@@jonathanridder The cost of the model S had dropped precovid. During covid however Tesla jacked up their prices because they could. The other manufacturers experienced it too but it was the dealerships that were adding the ridiculous ADMs to prices, the car companies besides didn't start jacking up prices till the end of covid during peak inflation. Now that interest rates have gone up and demand has dropped, Tesla is dropping prices to avoid idling their plants.
exactly what i was thinking too. tires wear like that due to camber. i worked at a tire shop and that wear pattern is a dead giveaway. this guys a retard
Seriously! Guy shows a setup with obviously the wrong wheels and tires, can't fit a toothpick between the edge of the tire and the fender, and wonders why it eats tires!
Surprised a knowledgeable car guy didn’t realize he bought at the highest dealer markup era in modern history due to the supply issues at the time … all the dealerships from every car maker were jacking up their prices… now they can’t give them away
Anyone who bought a new car after the first half of the pandemic made the same mistake. The car my parents bought depreciated by 10,000 euros in one year just at the sale price after the pandemic. On top of that, it has more technical problems than an old car. And it's obvious that you're going to get a bad price at the buyback, they have to make a profit again when they re-sell the car you used
What are you talking about. Toyota is still jacking up prices used couple year old toyotas are higher than MSRP in dealerships. because dealers are still saying F you if you don't want our car for this insane price someone else with more money than brains will come buy it.
I had to replace the OEM 21 inch tires every 5k miles as well. I downgraded to the 19 inch rims and tires and the inner tire wear problem gone. The 19 inch tires now last more than 20k miles. Unlike the previous 21 inch wheels, which were a staggered configuration, the new 19 inch tires are square configuration so I can rotate them and make them last even longer.
to be honest anything above 17-18 inches on a car is purely for cosmetics and has no benefits in performance, usability, comfort, range and durability at all
This guy is an idiot... this is like watching a comedy show. I can't stop laughing at his stupidity for buying a 140k car, LOL! That right there is stupid in its own right. If it were a Ferrari or something like that, then okay, but it's a freaking Tesla, Hahahahaha! Usually, I feel bad for people like him, but I just can't because of his sheer stupidity! Every single car depreciates the second you pull it off the lot!
ya this guy looks like he put aftermarket rims on the car too... and uses super low profile tires.. and acts surprised... bet if he went down a rim size and used meatier tires theyd last 20k-30k miles. dude is a dousche the way he even talks is annoying.
Also, my philosophy is never buy a new car no matter the company… I should clarify… the amount of depreciation would be similar to a used one (of course there are exceptions). I am not saying everyone should buy a used car instead of new, all I am saying is that in my experience, buy a used car (if the odometer is less than 90,000 miles) can save lots of money… but whatever you do, make sure the used or new car isn’t a lemon
I've bought and sold my share of cars for over fifty years, and the one thing I've learned is never rush into any "new" innovative auto design offering especially with the EV craze where we are just beginning to uncover all the cadavers lurking within that system.
You smart 👏 unlike some whining little spoiled girls complaining because they couldn't wait for the prices to go down like they always do. Whaa..whaa.. 😂 he's probably single or has a prostitute for a partner because nobody could possibly stand being around this person for two minutes. Ugh! Someone please tell the little girl to shut their trap.
The camber issue is a problem (though note that you said “factory spec” and not actually using factory wheels. If this happens with factory wheels then it would be worthy of a recall) but also, the plaid is a toy. There’s cars twice the price with worse problems and worse performance.
@stevenrivers8386 Anecdotal evidence isn't really evidence big dog! Tesla easily has the highest customer satisfaction rating and repeat buyer rate, a quick google search of "tesla repeat buyers" and "tesla customer satisfaction" can save you a lot of heartache. Or,,, maybe just keep yelling over the internet, maybe it'll change people's minds, idk :)
@stevenrivers8386the dealerships were marketing them up by so much becuase they were popular. Now the cost of cars will plummet once it reaches the peak
@@pepechill8118he is probably old enough to have a job as a tech where he understands that IT and engineers are the ones that create problems and dont listen to the techs creating their design
This is what happens when you change wheels from stock with obviously different back spacing and lower the vehicle. It happens on most cars that are modified in this way.
@@lukeatmadik4644if it was a matter of weight then something else like a Chevy Tahoe would have the same problem. His wheels stick out more than the stock wheels do, so there is more leverage. He even said the camber is off. If he would put the stock wheels back on and have it at the normal ride height, the tires would last a lot longer.
The thing with gap insurance is if you wrecked your car your regular insurance would pay for an equivalent replacement car. You could continue to make your payments on $140,000 and have the $62,000 replacement car exactly the same as the one in this video because that is what it is worth.
Happended to my mothers Tesla model X within the first year. Tesla service accused her of "aggressive driving"... only time I've seen her aggressive was when she responded to that claim in the service office
Nonsense. I track my Tesla, have videos of me doing donuts and drifting, driving off road, and Tesla service has never once questioned anything with warranty claims.
Tires aren’t made by Tesla, and the S and X have an adjustable ride height. It’s not their responsibility if you drive around on the lowest ride height and don’t keep your car in alignment.
$139,440 fully spec'd for a 2022 Plaid Model S? Bro, you got a deal! The list price of my 2016 Model S P100DL ("Ludicrous") was $160,400! But I DID get the $7,500 tax credit that was still in effect for all new EV's back then. And I also got free unlimited Supercharging forever! And no pesky monthly "Premium Connection" fee. It only has 68,500 miles on it. But when I asked recently what Tesla would give me for a trade-in of my car? $26,500!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Guess I'll be keeping my Ludicrous Beast until the thing crumbles into the ground. The good news is I haven't had any problems with it, tires or otherwise. And it still rips me to 60mph in about 2.5 seconds. Fast enough for me, old man, fast enough for me!
I test drove a Lexus GS-f today and your video made me feel good about potentially spending $40,000 on a bulletproof reliable 8 cylinder Lexus. I’ve never felt quite comfortable with Tesla.
😂 This seems like *"The Toyota Corner"* . Even when people do their homework, there is other crap 💩 that pops up that you didn't think about or know about. I am thinking of getting a 2024 Toyota Tacoma, *_"but never buy the first series"_* . So I will wait until the twenty twenty five's are on the dealership lots, and get one of those. All negative issues should be addressed. 👌 Remember all the problems people had with the first series twenty twenty two Tundra 😳 🧐
Not really. In the US, many buy cars they actually can't afford and take out huge loans on them - to them, having > 30 k $ negative equity in a car can be serious trouble. The problems of accelerated depreciation after the manufacturers cut prices isn't new. It probably goes back to the golden days of the Ford Model T when ole' Henry lowered prices whenever some innovation would reduce production costs by a few bucks. In Europe, FIAT did pretty much the same with most of their mass models in the 2000s and 2010s. Initially, they advertised New models like a must-have fashion article and when demand dwindled, sharply lowered prices to maintain sales - with early buyers ending up holding cars much longer than they would have liked to.
@@doomsday9973 You could - if you were imprudent enough to buy one on borrowed money. Don't assume that people buying a 130,000 $ car can afford to do so. Many who do can't - and with 30 k $ negative equity in play, theft or an accident can be ruin.
In 2021 many cars were going for well over MSRP as dealers added 30%-50% for high demand vehicles. You aren’t comparing unseen dealer markup during that period.
I have a 2013 S P85+. It comes with 21” staggers. Looks nice but obviously it’s got the same rear tire issue, because you can’t swap them to the front. I ended up buying a used set of classic model S 19”s. No issue since…. Ride much smoother with less road noise.
@VehicleVirgins : Tesla may have deliberately set the camber to such a high negative angle because it greatly improves handling when cornering. But I can see why the rapid tire wear would be an issue. Basically, you decide whether you want an inexpensive car for transportation, or an expensive toy for fun driving. But most buyers would probably never research this particular point, which is what makes it dangerous.
After market tires - too bad -no guarantee's for that. As far as the price drop of a new and different car that is normal - think about the DeLorean or the plasma tv - the priced dropped by 50%-70% on those items in a year or two - you can always buy used and save money
@@Furiousbanner Tesla has millions of them. but they have effective marketing to brainwash millions more of mindless drones. highly effective. the rims and tires are OEM. He said it in the video.
Sorry, I used to love your videos, but this one is just ridiculous. Being an early adopter of the world’s first premium sedan priced hyper-car, then crying out because of the recent price drop is just childish. As a Tesla investor you should have known Tesla is scaling up production of every model by letting it partially finance by early adopters. It was the case with the early model S, X, both S and X performance versions, even with the model 3 performance. Why should it be different with the Plaid. On the other hand, talking about alternatives to the Plaid, there are literally none. No premium priced sedan with hyper-car performances. You could alternatively go for fully speced “slow” Amgs and Bmw M, which all cost more than the Plaid, however they all have close to 50% depreciation in two years time regardless of new car price development. At least in Germany you can’t sell a fully speced two years old E 63 Amg for more than a 50-55% of a new one, for a simple reason, coz. more than 90% of those cars are leased, and only very few people would actually buy it. Regarding tire wear, it seems you keep forgetting you drive a 1000+ hp car with hypercar performances. This car’s performances are only comparable to something like Bugatti Veyron, however Bugatti is a pure two seater hypercar, and it’s suspension is set to be used on track. Contrary to that, Plaid is a comfortable sedan which needs to provide decent comfort comparable to that of an E class Mercedes or 5 series Bmw. Those are completely opposite requirements when comes to suspension settings. On top of that, Plaid comes standard with an height adjustable air suspension, meaning actual camber is being changed considerably between the two extremes, the lowest and the highest suspension setting. And here comes the catch, while the car needs to provide reasonable camber also in its highest suspension setting in order to ensure safe road holding when all 1000+ hp are released in a curve, in its lowest setting the camber will of course be more extreme which would lead to a higher tire wear. But that’s the case with all powerful premium sedans which need to provide decent wheel travel. It had been the case with all my Bmws M, and it’s apparently even worse with Audis RS. It’s also the case with my Plaid, but far from that what I have experienced with M cars. now, it again depends on your air suspension settings. I usually set mine to the middle setting. However, it seems you permanently use the lowest suspension setting, and it looks like you have even lowered the suspension on your Plaid. This of course increases the camber again and causes excessive tire wear. On top of this, the tires you are using are way to wide, there’s literally no space between the tire and the fender left. In Germany that’s not permitted and the car would lose driving permission. Hopefully this video was meant as a joke, it simply does not comply with the professionalism you have been providing through the years.
@@ricardosimon1975 Also there’s no denying that because content consumers love to rag on Tesla as of late, especially so called “car enthusiasts”, content creators are incentivized to make content that criticizes Tesla.
Dude i had the exact same problem on my lowered Model 3 with 20inch rims. Went through 3 sets of rear tyres in 1 year. Finally installed adjustable cambers and toe arms with a good non-tesla alignment... problem gone.
I subscribe to the *"Wham Bamm Tesla Cam channel"* . There is a lot of accidents where the Teslas hydroplane . A known heavy car loosing their grip while #ICE vehicles Whizz on by N/P. Now I can understand how this happens. With the wear being inside and people who is used to #ICE vehicles, not having to rotate their tires all that much. Yes , now I can understand the hydroplaning. 😳
A lot of “regular” cars had huge markups in 2021. Now, they are discounted below msrp. How is that any different than Tesla? You can’t negotiate Tesla prices, so their online prices have fluctuate with market demand. How is that hard to understand? Everything was inflated in 2021, Tesla vehicles were no different.
@@mxriderwd everyone is giving discounts on new cars right now, why?? Cuz there so freaking expensive! Those Dodge Ram trucks are still like $38,000 to $45,000 with the 20% discount! That's crazy for just a normal 4 door half ton pick up truck.
Imagine you have this kind of experience with this company and still went ahead to pre-order the first-generation cyber truck. Honestly, as normal sane person, my first thought is either i don't believe his true frustration with his current car experience or this guy is so freaking rich and insane.
Or just plain stupid, lacking all smarts and common sense. 10K in tires in 25,000 miles, duh, you have a LEMON or a vehicle. I We will never own an electric car, not until the grid is everywhere, maybe 2099 ? Cybertruck > Lots of Honda copy, the suspension, the under bed trunk and more. But wait, there are few delivered and few proven to be reliable. Not only is it an electric truck, it will get stranded without many charging stations and is not made to float. Deep mud nd soft sand, forget it.. FAIL
Imagine - all the horrible things that Elon has done and said since this guy bought the car and his main complaint is that it is costing him money because the price on the new cars has put him underwater. I assume that he can not see past the nose on his face. We are budgeting and saving for an EV. I like the APP for Tesla more then the competitors, but I can not trust anything that they say - and that is a deal breaker. Rented a MY and an Ioniq 5 for a week and enjoyed both of them - but Tesla has them beat on the charging front.
This guy has spent more money on tires than I spent on my 2002 Lincoln Town Car that I bought in 2007. Seventeen years later, it's still my daily driver!! You would think after spending $140,000 on this Tesla, you would get more than half of a steering wheel.
@ JustinJohnson-id1sl-- Almost everyone that I know that has an EV, has a spouse that has a gas car. They use the EV for shorter city runs and charge at home. They use the gas car for long trips. At least a third of the miles that are on my car are from long trips, so I don't think that I would ever buy an EV.
I think for Tesla cars it makes more sense to lease. That way you're not stuck with a huge loan in the event of a sudden price drop and can upgrade every few years to the latest model!
I think for Tesla cars it makes more sense to avoid haha. If you want to drive one find a sucker who overpaid for a rattlebox and have them take you for a ride in theirs.
@@AmitPatel-vp2ev I have a Type R and am highly satisfied with it haha. And I paid 31k for it (gently used with a lot of goodies) at the start of 2020 (pre-pandemic) and it's now worth 30k. (obvi inflation happened in the meantime). Still ridic for what you get compared to some Teslas which lost half their value in a year.
Totally had a rear tire blowout in my "S" on Malibu Canyon road one morning taking my kid to school. Exactly what you are showing here is what happened to me. A year later I had to put $4,200.00 into suspension work, broken control arm, and all new bushings. Can't afford to replace the two headlights that randomly turn off and I have to manually turn them off and back on while driving at night.
Yeah I had two S's they just had endless repairs for years, I dumped Tesla a few years ago it's just not worth it in the long run. Maybe the non-S models are better? Someone else can find out.
Greetings from Central Europe. Considering that the Tesla car company has maintained the status of the most defective brand in the world, including the worst workmanship, from the very first year of production, and it's been like this year after year, and the worst thing to choose is the S model, I have to ask: What are you surprised about? What did you expect? With all due respect = you got what you wanted, so enjoy it. If I didn't hear the same thing every year = what a disaster Tesla is, then I would feel sorry for Tesla owners, but I can't feel sorry for anyone like that.
Tesla stock down to $195 from a high of $690. Good times. I watch Maverick of wallstreet and he says Tesla costs to build have gone up 29% so the profit margin now for Tesla is 3%. That's really not sustainable. Buy UP fanboys!
Everything you covered in this video are good points other than the price drop. They were trying to figure out what good pricing is for their car and adjusted it accordingly after 2 years. This is totally fine, and it's the price you pay for getting the newest of the new tech. You are basically beta testing a hype product the second it comes out. The tire issue is very serious however and needs to be fixed.
This could be true if there weren’t price drops for their whole like up. I’m in the whole 20k and I have the model Y. And that’s not counting depreciation. I bought it for 62k and now they’re selling at 40k. It’s not just the model S
@@anttij2973 Teslas are still selling like hotcakes brand new so I don't know what you are talking about. The Plaid was a new model lineup / edition to the S model line and thus they were seeing how the market accepted their initial pricing. I assume they adjusted it based on demand and sales potential if they reduced it.
@@dyrandoms sucks to be you. You didn't value your money enough to wait for the price drops, being that they were clearly too expensive and since the very first year they were talking about making manufacturing more efficient to sell for cheaper, as their goal was always to make cars affordable enough to replace regular gas vehicles. This is just common sense, and you lacked some of it.
@@rRekkoHow could he wait for price drops that weren’t told to the public or employees? That happened in the morning and Tesla employees would wake up to the news?
Almost everyone who bought in 2021 paid more - most at dealerships that charged 10k+ called a market adjustment. Definitely more a timing issue than anything else. i agree that 5k on a set of tires is ridiculous though - glad you pointed that out. Hopefully Tesla addresses this issue. On higher speck cars in your price range they would sell for 30k or more over MSRP so your pretty close to everyone else. It was a good time to hold off, but you have also generated revenue through your videos on youtube so hopefully this helped you recoup some of the costs of the depreciation.
To be fair if you can afford a Rolls Royce Cullinan then you probably live with the 40% price drop and 8000 km tyre changes but am deeply appreciative of your vlog as I could never justify spending endless money and parting with my beloved 16 yr old Hyundai i30.
But then you cant make a yt vid bleating like a woman about how unfair it all is. Everyone knew the value would plummet due to how quickly EVs are advancing.
To be fair, at the time you bought the car, the car market was insanely high priced. Used Teslas were going for 10-20% over be price. There are tons of people who sold teslas at a profit. It was just an insane time, and it seems tesla has had costs come down and adapted their prices from a time when costs were extra high, which somewhat inflated the prices back then. The tire, however, isn't a new issue. I've had a 2013 p85+ for a decade. It has had similar wear, and I've gone through rear tires relatively quickly. That said, the lack of other maintenance over the last decade has easily made up the cost. My similarly aged f-150 goes through all terrain tires nearly as fast with a similar price tag. It also has cost 10,000 more in maintenance, without including the cost of gas, tires, and oil. I've gone through at least 3 more brake replacements in a similar 200,000 miles to my model s. I did just get a used 2022 plaid. I picked it up for 90k with 9k miles. This price drop hurts, but most of the depreciation was already built in as used car prices have dropped (along with the new prices on plaids coming down). I've got 7k+ miles on that car since i bought it. I haven't checked the inside of the tires, but until your videos, i wasn't as concerned, as i figured it was just like my 2013. I should also check the inside of my 2013s tires, as it's been a bit, but i don't remember this issue being as prominent since moving away from the Michelin supersport ps2 tires. That said, the fact that it is still an issue is crazy. It's also crazy that you haven't had it fixed in the aftermarket if tesla won't fix it. Is that not possible? All in all, these concerns didn't convince me to cancel my roadster or cybertruck orders, but definitely given me something to think about.
100% agreed, and is not a new thing at all. I bought a 2014 Model S 85, $114k at the time. Went through tires like a mofo, and not only the drive tires, the fronts too. Was changing out tires every 7k miles. I happened to get lucky and notice because I stuck my hand on the inner edge of the tire, just by chance while inspecting and caught a metal thread in my finger from the ripped up tire about to fail. Got sick of the car and got rid of it 2 years later.
He's just a whining little girl who couldn't wait for prices to drop but elected to pay the higher price that's common with new model electronics. It's called recoup cost just like a new brand TV and new medicines. The companies always have to recoup the upfront design and engineering cost. 🤷♂️
Tesla was never well known for build quality, handling or vehicle dynamics. Just being electric and going quickly in a straight line. I’m guessing as more people catch on about this, the depreciation will get worse and worse….which we’re starting to see now.
My Plaid with the 19s hasn’t had any of those issues in 35k miles. My yoke peal is the only issue I’ve had in 2 years. Love the car but the price cuts do suck big time for people like us that paid full price 😩
nice for me i’m about to pick one up or maybe wait little longer see if they drop even more 😂 basically saved myself half the cost just by being patient, worth it.
Had the exact same problem in my Chevy Volt, just buy 4 tires once, you never rotate the tires ever, you just need to replace the 2 front tires , twice a year… problem solved, don’t rotate tires ever, back tires stay brand new forever
By the way, I upgraded to the Tesla Model 3 long range, I know that I will have this problem with any electric vehicle, save yourself this tire flaw, never rotate tires, big mistake, buying 2 tires is a lot easier than replacing 4 ❤❤❤😂😂😂 and now you know!! 😅
The price of the car is falling because Tesla optimizes their production of the cars like no other manufacturer in the world. This is their main focus. Tesla also claimed it for many years that their focus is to make EVs affordable. They are also doing it across their whole lineup of models, not just the top spec cars. The car you bought cost much more to make than the same car which is built today, so Tesla is probably adjusting the price to keep similar profit margins. Take any other manufacturer and they probably would have kept the price to take all that extra profit margins away from the customers. Even if you payed more than what it cost today, that car is still outperforming other cars which cost 10x more, so is it really a big deal? You also made a lot of videos using that vehicle which probably payed off for that difference in price already. At that time you bought it, it was also the only car with such specs, so you payed for exclusivity. People who buy high tech gadgets first always overpay several times more than what the same gadgets cost later after mass adoption. For example, compare it to buying some large size fancy TV screen today and then 2 years later and its price will probably drop similarly like this Tesla
I absolutely agree with you! You paid for exclusivity and I applaud Tesla for lowering their prices and allowing consumers to get into their vehicles at lower prices. Any other manufacturer would have 100% pocketed the extra profit. I can't believe people are annoyed at a product going down in price. I say this as a model 3 performance owner. I'm happy others can get into the vehicles at a lower price.
@@jordanchopra5038 Dude, anyone who works in the auto industry would tell you ONLY Tesla fanboys are OK with what Tesla did. Don't forget they raised their prices over the last couple years and then went ahead and dropped the price of Model Y's 14K ya know their number one selling car. They are no longer a startup. They are the most valuable car company in the world. They don't get a pass for screwing over hundreds of thousands of customers out of billions of dollars. Not to mention they stay profitable due to tax incentives and continue to ask the GOV for more money to build EV infrastructure for their semi's. All while their rest of industry made their own investments. Tesla's are the new Chrysler 200. If you pull up to a lot to trade your car in. GOOOOD LUCK unless you have 15K in your pocket to cover the negative equity.
You've got two major problems. First is the Michelin Latitude Sport tires are defective and not designed for the weight. In this case, it's not the camber but cornering that does the inside edges in. The second problem is the rear camber is -2.4 to -2.5 degrees in low (not very low) on all S/X refresh...not just Plaid. You can fix this with aftermarket upper arms or shims. The shims weren't possible before the refresh because the upper arms pre-refresh attached to the cradle with tabs rather than laterally with bolts like they do on the refresh. Agree tesla really needs to fix this. It was also bad pre-refresh but it's even worse now. My X Plaid had exactly the same inner edge wear at 10K miles despite the tread across the tire being almost evenly worn.
Oh ok it is really a bad design and parts use from Tesla. That confirms that fact that they are great in launching rocket. But when it comes to make quality cars, they have never succeeded, very much the same for all american manufacturers unfortunately
@@conglin6965 The design is actually very good but their choice of fixed alignment values was picked for track performance so they could get those crazy record lap times on stock unmodified cars. Unfortunately those values are not the best for tire wear. Half the problem is simply the tire itself which is why they ditched the Latitudes finally.
I can't imagine how someone would buy a car for 140k that is from an amateur manufacturer. A land cruiser for 100k would have retained its value and you would have had 40k to spend for your adventurous trips, knowing that the car can take you almost anywhere in the world.
@@Resist4 Fake News : old Bmw Z4M coupe kept it's value, Porsche GT3RS always increase their value, Porsche 930 Turbo, same for Porsche GT4 and Porsche 718 Spyder, Ford GT 2005, Ford GT 2022, Lancia Delta Integrale HF and enough other wanted cars. Cars that depreciate in value are cars that most people do not desire. A 1980s Lancia Delta Intergrale HF with Martini Colors was 40k back in the days now it is way over 150k.
@@THEREALZENFORCE Don't throw out that Trump fake news line. Very few cars every appreciate, that's why I said inherently they are depreciating assets. In fact, financial advisors will say the same thing.
I 100% support you Parker, and will continue to support you, but as an early investor in the company, you’re forgetting one of the biggest points here, the cost of battery manufacturing and battery technology in general has changed drastically over the years. I paid $173,000 for my 2017 Tesla Model X P100D. At the time that was the fastest model available and it was fully loaded. Most people don’t even believe me when I tell them I paid that much. (Even though I still have the window sticker) As an original early adopter in the technology, and you being able to have the vehicle first before anyone else, we pay the price. I had mine before anyone and I was super excited to be able to smash on any cars out there and have a 0 to 60 of 2.7 seconds in a 6,000lb SUV. Naturally, as technology gets better and batteries become more available to provide higher mileage and more performance, the price is going to come down. At the end of the day, you have to remember that it’s not really a car, but more like a computer.
Thanks man. While it’s true batteries have gotten cheaper, the F150 lightning, Rivian and Taycan have maintained their msrps to respect their customers. The Taycan has increased in price by $5k since 2021, not decreased by 42k
@@VehicleVirgins yeah but like stated above, you can’t compare TESLA to Legacy auto manufacturers cause it’s completely different. The whole game plan from Elon was to bring sustainable electric vehicles to the market that people can afford and this is all part of his original plan that he wrote up bringing the pricing down to an affordable level. On top of that, pricing has come down due to the overall cost of battery technology coming down as well.
@@VehicleVirginslol. It appears you are complaining about the company following their mission statement which is to consistently make the cars more affordable therefor expediting the transition to renewable energy. There are countless people in this thread that have experienced the price drops. It also appears you just have no clue what is happening in the macro scheme of things and how all the other automakers are doing.
Imagine buying the latest and greatest technologies in their infancy (hd TVs, computers, etc) and then getting mad because you don’t understand price goes down over time as mass production increases and efficiency in production improves. Your fault for wanting to be the first to own said product. Also seems like you were only concerned about gap after you realized this fact and are now upset you can’t purchase it at this point. I don’t know who you’re trying to fool. Maybe it’s yourself
dont feel bad, you are not alone, many people got buried buying cars the last 4 years, they were paying way over sticker "their own fault" and now they are so far under water that their options are very limited. you really cant blame tesla, they were selling them for what people were willing to pay for them at the time and that has changed so they have no other option but to lower the price. its the market, not tesla.
@@SVEVelsen upsell scam? People wanted to buy them like crazy, they couldn't make as many to cover the demand, so they did what any other sane person owning a business would do, raise the prices to the max, as much as people are willing to pay. It's not a scam, people just wanted to buy it so badly they paid a shit ton of money, it's the people in the wrong, not Tesla. This is the mentality that got my country (argentina) to such a huge inflation, nobody ever looks for prices and always pay whatever the stores are selling their stuff for, they can't just not buy the thing and wait for the prices to drop.
The tire issue should be a class action against tesla. 5000miles and tyres failure in one of the fastest cars ever.. Musk is a conman as far as lm concerned..engineering genius..be real!!
Anyone know if these tire issues also exist with the model 3? As far as the price drop causing your car to be worth less, while that definitely sucks, if you can afford a $140,000 car, I am not sure how bad I can feel for you.
The factory tires on my 2019 model 3 lasted 53k miles. I replaced them with the hardest rubber I could find and those tires are about worn out at 144k miles. The issue is the auto adjusting air suspension on the model S. Model 3 and Y don't have that issue.
Any model I think is flawed, just don't buy this brand, quality is just bad, our X and S had many failures, everything is just falling apart after a year.
Imagine financing a $120,000 car, then complaining to everyone else about it, knowing nearly anyone else could almost never afford that. You are literally the definition of initial buyers remorse. Disconnected from reality. Should have waited.
Looking healthy man, been a while since I watched one of your videos. In regards to the video, you can usually get gap insurance through your automobile insurance (and it is usually way cheaper). Speaking of the lower price, just look at it like you were rich enough to buy it before the drop. 99% of the people out there cannot even buy it at the lower price if it makes you feel better (in other words not many people are going to cry tears for someone in the 1% complaining about losing some money).
Alrighty Parker, this is the first time I've commented even though I've spent hours watching your videos over the years. Your car is lowered. You talked about this in another video. Did you have the car re-aligned after lowering? Also, since you hold a BSME and are a car enthusiast, I expect you know most cars have camber gain designed into the suspension travel. Lowering your car will put your neutral at a different spot in that range of dynamic camber. On a car that naturally raises and lowers it's critical to have proper understanding of this. For those that don't understand, imagine that a 100% stock height car will gain 0.5 degrees of camber when lowered from normal ride height to aero height at speed. But, on a lowered car, this gain may be closer to 1 degree or more. Extreme gain like this will exacerbate the wear Parker speaks about in the video. Add in the fact that most cars also have some sort of dynamic toe to help stabilize the car under squat and now you have serious camber combined with toe wear which results in the feathering on the tire. Parker - put your car back to stock height, have it realigned, and let me know if the wear continues as significantly. And go to 20" wheels. There's a reason why Tesla's own track pack is 20" and not 21".
My car had this issue before it was lowered and it’s been aligned multiple times (which has proven not to help unfortunately with this specific car). Lowering it definitely made it worse but the hundreds of people on the Facebook groups and the several people in this videos comments don’t have lowered plaids and suffer from this issue
@@VehicleVirgins I have a 23 Plaid. No issues on 19". However, this is not a new problem. This has been a Tesla problem for YEARS. They don't have enough adjustment options to get proper alignment. That being said... if the car is aligned at MEDIUM height, and you drive in Low (either manually or the car drops automatically), then you your alignment will be out-of-wack. You can't align a car at several ride heights. That being said, I don't understand why anyone would want anything bigger than 19". Better comfort, more range, less likely to puncture, less road noise, even slower. Not only that, but you are actually paying a premium for an inferior product.
@@VehicleVirgins Basically the lower you drop it ,the more camber you are adding in, irregardless of wheel size.. from what people are saying in comments, these cars do Not have factory adjustable camber settings, thus even if you aligned it at a shop after lowering, they wouldnt do any camber readjusting Unless you had added adjustable aftermarket arms...
My 2021 Plaid has 19" wheels with 12,000 miles 3 track days and autocross and my tires are fine. The price drop sucked but this is not a problem for new owners. They are getting the deal of their lifetime right now and I would advise them to get one. 2021 Taycan Turbo S were 220k with a few options and they are selling for 150k. Yeah I am not happy about the price drop either.
@@VehicleVirgins Hey, I agree with you I paid $136k and we didn't get the tilting screen and the steam gaming capability. Tesla should give us even trade-ins/at no cost for 2023 Plaids or some kind of rebate or enable full FSD for free which is zero cost for them.
@@VehicleVirgins Why did you think getting the larger wheels was a good idea? Low profile large wheels need to go away and never come back. They will wear out quicker, can be more easily damaged and drastically reduce range.
EXCEPT, the stock 19's look soooo gay! Like a 16 yr-old, pimple-faced dork on a first date. IF that's what you want to see everyday, go for it!@@Resist4
Tesla model X plaid 2022 owner and like so many others I’ve seen the car depreciate by about 30 grand and in less than two years I’ve owned it. Besides the fact that you don’t get the advertised mileage, I’ve dealt with a plethora of issues with the car breaking down so much to point where I’m returning the car under lemon law. Tesla offered to Repurchase the vehicle. Luckily, I’m receiving all my money back l, minus the PPF install and winter tires that I had to purchase because it just comes with the worst possible tires for winter weather in my opinion… Taking long trips to Vermont and I’m a snowboarder so yes, winter tires is a necessity. I do love the technology of a Tesla. I think they’re amazing cars, but in terms of range, they are just not quite there yet. I’d rather put gas in a car for five minutes than have to wait 20 minutes plus to charge my car each time on long trips… Time is money and there’s been times I probably get about 250 miles if that on an average of a 315 mile range that Tesla claims… That is just not good enough for me I read online somewhere by someone who put it quite well, Tesla is a rich man’s second car.
Tesla's price drops have affected the entire EV market. So is the solution to the tire issue installing adjustable control arms so that camber isn't fixed?? Seems like a straight forward fix.
Yes, but instead of installing N2itive camber arms, Parker choose to only install the drop links they offered him free for advertising, which made the issue worse. Then he turns around and acts surprised and crys about it.
Won’t work, the car needs the aggressive camber because of how much it weighs. Tires contact patch increases as weight transfers to outside wheels in corner, less aggressive camber would decrease grip as tires load up. That is very bad.
@jacobd1432 it just won't corner as well bro You are way off. Having full contact and even wear is logical. Aggressive camber is for racing. The car will handle the weight evenly now and not just under cornering. Genius Lmao
@@cuinican1980 brother this thing weighs as much as a gothic cathedral. An even contact patch on a car this heavy with this suspension on tires this wide is going to turn the camber positive in any slightly aggressive driving. Oh no a deer! Lemme swerve so I can… well I guess spinning off the road into a forest at 70 mph is nice this time of day.
@jacobd1432 Bro, im 43 , I was a manager for Firestone in my 20's for 7 years. My Brother has a speed shop in Tampa Florida. Called Induction Performance, we specialize in GTR and Supras and anything with Turbos and Super Chargers. You Sir are 100% wrong. The aggressive camber helps with handling. Just because you have a 305, 295, 335 size tire means you have more tire. If I take any vehicle and cha he the settings with a camber kit. I can get more contact on the street. Therefore more rubber more grip hitting the pavement. The only thing this will change is the ability to take a corner 'faster'. That's it, only change it does. My wear on my tire is more even. Supports the weight 'BETTER' because the weight is distributed by the entire width of the tire now. Not just the inner edges. You not only wrong you are wrong about your entire thought process. You literally think this even holds the weight better. Doesn't matter the car weighs 5k. Having camber and toe set properly. Turns you into a Cadillac. Nice and smooth and stable. You want to take turns on the track in track mode. Change the tires and rims out. With your set of racing cup tires at the ready. Adjust your camber for the corners. Have some fun. When your done, switch back the rims to your driving rims and tires. Adjust the camber back. You have a Cadillac again. I own a Model S performance as well as a Model S Plaid. I also own a ZR1 corvette as well as a Shelby GT500 SuperSnake. You Sir, are a boy. Boys don't like learning from Men. It's how I was when I was 16 years old. I thought I knew it all. I'm Audi5000G, God Bless Stay Safe
I am definitely disappointed that the price dropped after I had bought a M3 in 2020, but at the same time, I'm also happy because it means that the same care is more accessible and is even more reasonably priced. It just means that when my current one dies or gives out, I can get whatever the newer one is at a better price and likely with more kinks and bugs worked out.
What really happens is production of the car gets more efficient and they lower the price because they can now supply much more, it’s a way of controlling supply & demand which is great but obviously flawed
@@DemonTied not flawed, the same thing happens with all tech, the first gen cell phone costs a ton, 3 years down the road it's cheep and the kinks have been worked out. it would be flawed if when they reduce the production costs and didn't pass on those savings to customers, you always pay a premium to have the first batch.
@@robgilmour3147 in terms of the car market this would never happen, if anything car prices only go up. I mean I think it’s great because it made it possible for me to get a MYP but I’m sure the early adopters don’t think it was so great. I get what you mean though but it’s just an objectively controversial move on teslas part, benefitted many people (including themselves cuz more yearly sales) but also massively devalued it for many people as well. Imagine you buy a $75,000 2021 car and a few years later you’d be lucky to get 28k out of it, must suck lol
correction...it's price is 62 grand, and you owe 100k + interest. Some of you need to look at an amortization chart sometime and see that you are paying at least double the loan amount when you add in interest. Loans are always a bad idea.
Taking Tesla's loan option seems beneficial to me because in my case I would invest the money that I would be temporarily saving for that purchase. If you take right now the Model X Plaid for example, you have to put down roughly $15k-$20k, and pay ~$1,250 a month over 8 years (so $120,000 over 8 years). The total cost will be about 22% higher than purchasing it in one go (so $33k more, which is not double at all btw, no idea where you got that from), but you can make a hell of a lot more than $33k within 8 years by investing the $120,000 you don't spend immediately. So loans are a blessing if you know how to invest.
I'm pretty sure those rims you are running aren't OEM. You can even see those rims don't fit the car, why would you still run with them? No wonder you'll get tire issues. Also if the camber is an issue, get it aligned properly. About the depreciation, nobody told you the car wasn't gonna depreciate in value so why would you cry about it.
Totally understand your frustration. End of 2021 was a terrible time to buy a car, even though rates were so low. Used car prices were super inflated at the time, as well. On the flip side, there were a number of people who ordered Plaids when the price was $110k, but then got delivered when they were $130k but were locked into their original price, so they probably felt pretty happy then, and now their cars are down a more reasonable percentage from their purchase price. For me, a current model 3 owner, and former S owner, who wants to get back into an S, this drop is a blessing because used S prices are going to drop as well, allowing me to get much more car for my money.
When looking for a used model S I'd take this tire issue into account. I think they fixed that issue with newer ones. They reworked suspension and frame. Also making it perform better on track.
Greetings from Europe. Unfortunately I can't say if this is 100% true, but it is a fact that here in Europe people are talking a lot about the Model 3 made in China and made in Germany. The difference in quality is said to be striking, and you will also pay 5,000 to 8,000 euros more for a new piece made in Germany than for a piece made in China.
I ordered my Plaid when ordering first started. The initial price was $120k, not $110k and then Tesla raised it to $130k at the Plaid event in June 2021. I got locked in at $120k even though the car was $10k more expensive when I picked mine up in Aug 2021.
What other car has dropped their MSRP 30%? I've never seen it. Theres a big difference between an $800 phone and a $140,000 car. Even still Apple INCREASES their price of the iphone every release
@@ethan424040I guess Autopilot and carbon-sleeved electric motors is old technology, to say nothing of building the quickest acceleration car in the world short of a Rimac Nevera
@@VehicleVirgins you knew Tesla was not like every other car company and they want to make EV's affordable to the masses. Note to self...stop buying cars costing over $100,000. And the GAP insurance thing is something you should have. known about prior to financing the car.
So if the price increases in the future, will you write a check to make up for the difference? I didn’t see anyone who bought a car pre-Covid waiting in line to write a check to the manufacturers when the prices increased
I haven't had the tire issue at all with my Tesla S Plaid, but I have the base OEM 19inch wheels and all-season tires. This must only be an issue with the 21 inch wheel option. The insane price drops is what's been getting me. The car is at least fun and crazy fast, but like Parker I now HATE Tesla. I was able to get GAP through my insurance company for $80 per year.
My 2013 p85+ with 21" at least initially burned through inside edges in 10k miles. The problem isn't as severe as it used to be. Not sure if it's due to a different variant of Michelins I'm using on them now. That said, the price thing sucks, but the entire car market was over priced in 2021, and tesla specifically was fighting through supply constraints. Used cars were selling above the cost of new cars then. Things have changed.
Tesla is a new manufacturer. As they streamline their processes and optimize production, cost will come down. They did not make 40% when they initially sold the car. Battery tech and everything has come down a lot in prices. Tesla is adjusting their prices partly due to lower cost of production.
From the model S manual: Tesla recommends rotating the tires every 6,250 miles (10,000 km) or if tread depth difference is 2/32 in (1.5 mm) or greater, whichever comes first. Tire rotation is an essential part of tire maintenance. It helps maintain an even treadwear pattern which enhances the tire's overall wear quality, decreases road noise and maximizes tire life. Vehicles with staggered wheels and non-directional tires can be rotated side-to-side (left-to-right) but not front-to-back as the front and rear tire size is different. Left-to-right rotation can increase tread life by changing the direction of rotation for each tire and balancing shoulder wear.
I'm 63 and I haven't spent $10,000.00 on tires in my WHOLE life. My current car a Ford 2016 Explorer that is an 4WD model with 89,000 + ml and it's still on it factory tires. Here in Miami some people are only getting 700 to a 1000 miles on a set of EV tires. It seems the rubber compound doesn't like the hot Florida roads.
The other thing about Tesla, like no other manufacturer. Is within a model year, they are making improvements. So the year you bought, costs probably were a lot more. As they improve manufacturing and costs come down, they can reduce the vehicle price. That seems less of an issue as the tire problem. As for gap insurance. I didn't think they ever offered that at the bank. That is something you talk to your auto insurance company about (at least that is how I've always understood it).
Pricing has changed due to improved and more efficient manufacturing which is dropping the total cost of manufacturing the cars - not Tesla simply ripping you off. They've been pretty clear all along that their goal has been to lower costs and prices. I'm totally with you though when it comes to, "do I want to buy one right now," and potentially losing money during the course of ownership. I'd be pretty peeved if I were in your position with that big of a drop. I was just talking about this with a friend. The X and S have dropped something like $40k just since January.
Not even close. Just facts. They’ve been saying it all along. I even agreed that I’d be pissed if I had bought one over the last year. I’m not buying a Tesla for that very reason.
There is no company in the world that would drop the price of something that drastically because of more efficient manufacturing. A massive drop like this means that a lot of people are underwater on their loans, which means that they owe more on the loan than what the car is actually worth. High-end brands do not do devalue their top products like this.
You guys all are wrong, the used car prices were inflated and so did the new car prices that were inflated in 2021 and 2022, slowly fed raising interest rates on loans and macroeconomics the demand and affordability became less and less ans just to add its the high interest rates. To offset the interest rates and reach more buyers tesla reduced the prices.
My Tesla is kind of the Tesla roadster so nothing happened to that every people keep getting pictures of my car that disturb me. That’s why I don’t like sometimes Tesla model one because I have one.
This isn't just a Plaid or even a Model S issue. I've been driving Tesla Model S and X variants since 2015. The tyre wear issue has been a problem since day one on both the S and the X. The X wears the inner edge on the rears, the S wears the front outer edges. Cars are as perfectly aligned as it is possible to get with the limited range of adjustment available and tyre pressures are per manufacturer. I'm lucky to get 10,000km's of normal commuting out of a set on either X or S. The price drops have also been an issue since at least 2017.
Respectfully this sounds like a one-percenter problem. At least regarding the price drops this is great. It's the only reason I was able to reasonably afford a Model Y Performance. It's like $20k less than a few months ago.
I can second all of this 😂 although I switched to 19s and tire life is a peach.. still not ok. Great car, super convenient, got smashed on depreciation 😂
So you don't have the issue on the 19's? I actually have an order in for a new plaid and went with the 19's cause I figured the tire price alone would be annoying for the 21's, didn't even know about this issue. I drive a lot so if I have to change tires every 5k miles it would be basically every 1.5 months or so lol
7k miles Plaid on my 19s, all good. Pissssssssed about the depreciation, worst ever. Most likely cancel my Cybertruck Beast since they screw us over in price drops
@TrackSlayers All hail the king of the ring! Show your respect to this man everyone. Mans has the world record for the nurburgring lap time and daily drives a plaid. envious
I love how a car that pushes limits as crazy as the plaid does gets such an uproar over maintenance costs. Heavy weight, crazy accel numbers and handling. Math?
@jetx2599 to be fair, it is. Not keeping up with maintenance is an owners responsibility. Its quiet and smooth, deceptively so. It doesn't feel like a supercar, which would realistically have the same tire life if it weighed 2000lbs more and got ripped around everywhere.
I just bought a brand new Model 3 performance for $41k. I think I’m gonna be just fine since I don’t drive like a 16 year old and I’m not going to lower it so that it’s impossible to get the proper alignment which will cause premature tire wear 👌🏻 Getting a car in the low $40s, with a top speed of 162mph and goes 0-60 on 3.1 and will do 11.7 or better in the 1/4 mile is a pretty good bang for your buck…
Thanks! Finally someone tells the truth. On my Tesla P85D, almost $10,000 on tires to go 100,000 miles! That's why I did not buy a new Model S Plaid. I checked and sure enough 9 years later Tesla's Model S performance car STILL DOES NOT HAVE ADJUSTABLE REAR CAMBER ARMS! How can this be?
The cambered wheels are an issue, but not as much as those shitty Charmin-soft Pirelli Summer tires.. I had three Hellcats prior to my Tesla and they all had the same issue
You're taking this too personal. If you weren't the type of person that trades their car every 2 years, it would hardly matter. That car is good for 10 years at least.
When the Plaid came out it was a one of a kind vehicle as far as performance, and Tesla had control of the EV market. People were paying significantly over MSRP for low mileage used Plaids for a while. Tesla charged what they did because people were willingly buying them. Now the EV market is much more saturated and there is more competition. Tesla had to cut prices to maintain sales. Simple as that. Its unfortunate for owners who bought a while ago, but that's the price you pay for buying almost anything when it is new and cutting edge. Eventually everyone else gets in on it and prices have to come down.
They sold it for over 100k because they knew the Tesla fanboys would pay anything regardless of common sense. This should be no surprise to anyone. Good video though
Here is the title of the video where he lowered the car: I SLAMMED MY TESLA PLAID SO LOW IT'S DANGEROUS!
Liked and responding because this comment needs to be higher up. Amateur with an amateur video vying for clicks. This dope fooled me into clicking too, but the top comments show this guy for what he is.
Exactly what I was thinking
I bet you were smiling when you had the shiny newest thing on the block. Then all the kids got them and your toy didn’t seem so special anymore. Hard to feel sorry for a guy bragging about all his luxury car purchases.
"On the way to race at thermal club..." 10 seconds later. "I don't race this car..." Stop the bullshit
There are obviously other options than racing the car you drive to the location. Perhaps having a separate track car or just spectating.
@@Maurus200 what I thought
not into spectating?
Obviously he was going to watch a race, or isn't he allowed to do that.? 👊🏾🇳🇬🇺🇸
I quoted him exactly from the video. "On the way to race..." Either he misspoke, or you guys can't read/hear.
What you describe about waiting 1-2 years for the price to drop is EXACTLY what Tesla wants you to do. At the beginning of production they can’t make that many so production costs are high but demand is high so they can charge whatever they want. Eventually, production increases, economy of scale takes over, margins improve, demand slows, so price drops. Moral is if you want to be the first to own a new Tesla model, be prepared to stomach insane depreciation because they price cars based purely on supply and demand.
This.
Tesla S started production in 2012. So, I should wait 10 years or so?
Tesla made it clear that it’s goal was to lower the price. !!!
Exactly. You pay your money, you take your choice. The car was obviously worth it to him at the time he bought it. Tesla don't promise to maintain prices artificially high if their production costs drop. This whole video reeks of entitlement.
@@jonathanridder The cost of the model S had dropped precovid. During covid however Tesla jacked up their prices because they could. The other manufacturers experienced it too but it was the dealerships that were adding the ridiculous ADMs to prices, the car companies besides didn't start jacking up prices till the end of covid during peak inflation. Now that interest rates have gone up and demand has dropped, Tesla is dropping prices to avoid idling their plants.
I slammed my car on links with no adjustable camber arms and have no clue why im eating up tires 🤦♂️ They should recall you.
I 10000%agree. He is a little bit stupid.
Amen brother!
exactly what i was thinking too. tires wear like that due to camber. i worked at a tire shop and that wear pattern is a dead giveaway. this guys a retard
lmao yea the dude is utterly clueless smfh
Seriously! Guy shows a setup with obviously the wrong wheels and tires, can't fit a toothpick between the edge of the tire and the fender, and wonders why it eats tires!
lol at your “my new cybertruck” videos on your profile after watching this 😂
Surprised a knowledgeable car guy didn’t realize he bought at the highest dealer markup era in modern history due to the supply issues at the time … all the dealerships from every car maker were jacking up their prices… now they can’t give them away
Anyone who bought a new car after the first half of the pandemic made the same mistake. The car my parents bought depreciated by 10,000 euros in one year just at the sale price after the pandemic. On top of that, it has more technical problems than an old car. And it's obvious that you're going to get a bad price at the buyback, they have to make a profit again when they re-sell the car you used
What are you talking about. Toyota is still jacking up prices used couple year old toyotas are higher than MSRP in dealerships. because dealers are still saying F you if you don't want our car for this insane price someone else with more money than brains will come buy it.
@@UnlockingCentralFloridaproof
I had to replace the OEM 21 inch tires every 5k miles as well. I downgraded to the 19 inch rims and tires and the inner tire wear problem gone. The 19 inch tires now last more than 20k miles. Unlike the previous 21 inch wheels, which were a staggered configuration, the new 19 inch tires are square configuration so I can rotate them and make them last even longer.
Too much common sense...
U replaced the wheels? why didn't you just replace the tires.?
to be honest anything above 17-18 inches on a car is purely for cosmetics and has no benefits in performance, usability, comfort, range and durability at all
My tires are fine. I just hate carrying the car everywhere I go.
@@KimoKimochii what? Are you serious? Perhaps you are drivning a Rav4 or similiar
Rich guy complains that his expensive car depreciated too fast and the tires were out with a 1000hp powertrain😂
and he's running high performance low profile tires. for a reason. he drives *vigorously*
lol loving it 😂
This guy is an idiot... this is like watching a comedy show. I can't stop laughing at his stupidity for buying a 140k car, LOL! That right there is stupid in its own right. If it were a Ferrari or something like that, then okay, but it's a freaking Tesla, Hahahahaha! Usually, I feel bad for people like him, but I just can't because of his sheer stupidity! Every single car depreciates the second you pull it off the lot!
ya this guy looks like he put aftermarket rims on the car too... and uses super low profile tires.. and acts surprised... bet if he went down a rim size and used meatier tires theyd last 20k-30k miles. dude is a dousche the way he even talks is annoying.
He’s owned Rolls Royces, Ferraris, Lamborghinis and he’s FINANCING a Tesla?!?! What in the world is going on here?
Also, my philosophy is never buy a new car no matter the company… I should clarify… the amount of depreciation would be similar to a used one (of course there are exceptions). I am not saying everyone should buy a used car instead of new, all I am saying is that in my experience, buy a used car (if the odometer is less than 90,000 miles) can save lots of money… but whatever you do, make sure the used or new car isn’t a lemon
That's just being cheap.
nah man just go with a toyota, most reliable car company you'll find
@@micham8278 Possibly, but then again, the depreciation of driving a car off the lot… besides a 250GTO (Ferrari)… all for thought
@@bluegang2320 My brother likes his Mazda… (Japanese cars seem to be reliable)… or?
.The model s originated in 2012, hardly a "new car"! Put the bong pipe down amigo.
"i just went to a race and my tyre started to lose air rapidly but yeah I don't race my car"
I know what a 🤡
I've bought and sold my share of cars for over fifty years, and the one thing I've learned is never rush into any "new" innovative auto design offering especially with the EV craze where we are just beginning to uncover all the cadavers lurking within that system.
Elon fanboys gonna kneel, it's sorta what they do.
@@humanonearth1some people are smart and wait, and some people act like whining little girls. 😂
You smart 👏 unlike some whining little spoiled girls complaining because they couldn't wait for the prices to go down like they always do. Whaa..whaa.. 😂 he's probably single or has a prostitute for a partner because nobody could possibly stand being around this person for two minutes. Ugh! Someone please tell the little girl to shut their trap.
Facts
It's like Apple 🍎, in fact telsa is a apple iPhone On 4 wheels
The camber issue is a problem (though note that you said “factory spec” and not actually using factory wheels. If this happens with factory wheels then it would be worthy of a recall) but also, the plaid is a toy. There’s cars twice the price with worse problems and worse performance.
Thank you Tesla for actually doing what you promise and reducing the price of your vehicles. 😍
@@howard5992 That's the average Tesla fanboy.
Any sane person would never ever buy a Tesla again after this.
There’s a reason why most people who buy a Tesla never buy another brand again, they’re far superior products.
@stevenrivers8386 Anecdotal evidence isn't really evidence big dog! Tesla easily has the highest customer satisfaction rating and repeat buyer rate, a quick google search of "tesla repeat buyers" and "tesla customer satisfaction" can save you a lot of heartache. Or,,, maybe just keep yelling over the internet, maybe it'll change people's minds, idk :)
@stevenrivers8386the dealerships were marketing them up by so much becuase they were popular. Now the cost of cars will plummet once it reaches the peak
@@lord_flashheart Any sane person would not take advice from this video.
IT nerds describing factory camber is hilarious
calling other people "IT nerds" how old are?
He is probably old enough to have a job as a tech where he has experienced -> through the process of having to work with engineers
@@pepechill8118he is probably old enough to have a job as a tech where he understands that IT and engineers are the ones that create problems and dont listen to the techs creating their design
@@pepechill8118" how old are? "????????????????????
Calling someone a nerd in 2024 is crazy work. You really got him with that one bud 🤓
This is what happens when you change wheels from stock with obviously different back spacing and lower the vehicle. It happens on most cars that are modified in this way.
That’s what I was thinking. He only mentioned it once.
@@lukeatmadik4644if it was a matter of weight then something else like a Chevy Tahoe would have the same problem. His wheels stick out more than the stock wheels do, so there is more leverage. He even said the camber is off. If he would put the stock wheels back on and have it at the normal ride height, the tires would last a lot longer.
You'd get fined here in Switzerland driving around with a wheel configuration like that. My Model S doesn't have this issue.
Did you miss the point where he said these are 100% factory spec wheels that you can option the car with?
The wheels are stock config, car is stock, car isn't lowered, it's just you didn't watch the video bro @daveragsdale7970 lmfao
The thing with gap insurance is if you wrecked your car your regular insurance would pay for an equivalent replacement car. You could continue to make your payments on $140,000 and have the $62,000 replacement car exactly the same as the one in this video because that is what it is worth.
Happended to my mothers Tesla model X within the first year.
Tesla service accused her of "aggressive driving"... only time I've seen her aggressive was when she responded to that claim in the service office
how can it be agresive driving when the inside is worn out..
Nonsense. I track my Tesla, have videos of me doing donuts and drifting, driving off road, and Tesla service has never once questioned anything with warranty claims.
Tires aren’t made by Tesla, and the S and X have an adjustable ride height. It’s not their responsibility if you drive around on the lowest ride height and don’t keep your car in alignment.
anecdotal fallacy
@stennan I got accused of the same thing by Tesla service 😂. Never getting another tesla again.
$139,440 fully spec'd for a 2022 Plaid Model S? Bro, you got a deal! The list price of my 2016 Model S P100DL ("Ludicrous") was $160,400! But I DID get the $7,500 tax credit that was still in effect for all new EV's back then. And I also got free unlimited Supercharging forever! And no pesky monthly "Premium Connection" fee. It only has 68,500 miles on it. But when I asked recently what Tesla would give me for a trade-in of my car? $26,500!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Guess I'll be keeping my Ludicrous Beast until the thing crumbles into the ground. The good news is I haven't had any problems with it, tires or otherwise. And it still rips me to 60mph in about 2.5 seconds. Fast enough for me, old man, fast enough for me!
An avid car buyer, and doesn’t ask about gap insurance during a purchase. Could you imagine?
Rich guy problems, I guess... 🤷♂️
@@jasonl4571 Rich? With a car on finance, and super concerned about depreciation? This is somebody heavily in debt.
@@mikelovesbaconhe has a half a million cullinan hes not broke 🤦
@@mikelovesbaconlol I doubt he’s broke…he sound like he’s been rich since he’s been born.
Well never mind lol I just went to his TH-cam. Buddy been doing millions of views for years 😂
I test drove a Lexus GS-f today and your video made me feel good about potentially spending $40,000 on a bulletproof reliable 8 cylinder Lexus. I’ve never felt quite comfortable with Tesla.
I also like the 12 cylinder Toyota Century, what a wonderful car! 😁
Ya that's b/c tesla's suck. But elon bf's don't care.
@@humanonearth1 L😂L
The Great Elon lost one of his "boyfriends" in this video 😂
😂 This seems like *"The Toyota Corner"*
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Even when people do their homework, there is other crap 💩 that pops up that you didn't think about or know about.
I am thinking of getting a 2024 Toyota Tacoma, *_"but never buy the first series"_* .
So I will wait until the twenty twenty five's are on the dealership lots, and get one of those.
All negative issues should be addressed. 👌
Remember all the problems people had with the first series twenty twenty two Tundra 😳 🧐
@@humanonearth1 why do they suck?
This has been another episode of First World Problems.
Tune in next week where we discuss what to do when your maid calls out sick.
Comment of the day :)
Not really. In the US, many buy cars they actually can't afford and take out huge loans on them - to them, having > 30 k $ negative equity in a car can be serious trouble.
The problems of accelerated depreciation after the manufacturers cut prices isn't new. It probably goes back to the golden days of the Ford Model T when ole' Henry lowered prices whenever some innovation would reduce production costs by a few bucks.
In Europe, FIAT did pretty much the same with most of their mass models in the 2000s and 2010s. Initially, they advertised New models like a must-have fashion article and when demand dwindled, sharply lowered prices to maintain sales - with early buyers ending up holding cars much longer than they would have liked to.
Comment of the year lmao. Guy with a 130k car bitching about its value dropping and maintenance costs. I can’t…
@@doomsday9973 You could - if you were imprudent enough to buy one on borrowed money.
Don't assume that people buying a 130,000 $ car can afford to do so. Many who do can't - and with 30 k $ negative equity in play, theft or an accident can be ruin.
@@notroll1279 this guy is not one of those people lol. That’s who I’m referring to.
Buy a Maserati and then you will understand how lucky you were with Tesla
In 2021 many cars were going for well over MSRP as dealers added 30%-50% for high demand vehicles. You aren’t comparing unseen dealer markup during that period.
Exactly, Tesla just added the mark up themselves instead of a dealer getting it.
I have a 2013 S P85+. It comes with 21” staggers. Looks nice but obviously it’s got the same rear tire issue, because you can’t swap them to the front. I ended up buying a used set of classic model S 19”s. No issue since…. Ride much smoother with less road noise.
And NOBODY but a full time race car driver could ever tell the diference in handling
@VehicleVirgins : Tesla may have deliberately set the camber to such a high negative angle because it greatly improves handling when cornering. But I can see why the rapid tire wear would be an issue. Basically, you decide whether you want an inexpensive car for transportation, or an expensive toy for fun driving. But most buyers would probably never research this particular point, which is what makes it dangerous.
After market tires - too bad -no guarantee's for that. As far as the price drop of a new and different car that is normal - think about the DeLorean or the plasma tv - the priced dropped by 50%-70% on those items in a year or two - you can always buy used and save money
Use OEM tires and rims and get your alignment set by Tesla and maintain air pressure as mentioned by manufacture
You must be fun at parties.
@@paulpieper4356 and you must be boring af
one of Tesla’s alt accoumt
@@Furiousbanner Tesla has millions of them. but they have effective marketing to brainwash millions more of mindless drones. highly effective. the rims and tires are OEM. He said it in the video.
@@paulpieper4356you must be compensating for something
Sorry, I used to love your videos, but this one is just ridiculous. Being an early adopter of the world’s first premium sedan priced hyper-car, then crying out because of the recent price drop is just childish. As a Tesla investor you should have known Tesla is scaling up production of every model by letting it partially finance by early adopters. It was the case with the early model S, X, both S and X performance versions, even with the model 3 performance. Why should it be different with the Plaid. On the other hand, talking about alternatives to the Plaid, there are literally none. No premium priced sedan with hyper-car performances. You could alternatively go for fully speced “slow” Amgs and Bmw M, which all cost more than the Plaid, however they all have close to 50% depreciation in two years time regardless of new car price development. At least in Germany you can’t sell a fully speced two years old E 63 Amg for more than a 50-55% of a new one, for a simple reason, coz. more than 90% of those cars are leased, and only very few people would actually buy it.
Regarding tire wear, it seems you keep forgetting you drive a 1000+ hp car with hypercar performances. This car’s performances are only comparable to something like Bugatti Veyron, however Bugatti is a pure two seater hypercar, and it’s suspension is set to be used on track. Contrary to that, Plaid is a comfortable sedan which needs to provide decent comfort comparable to that of an E class Mercedes or 5 series Bmw. Those are completely opposite requirements when comes to suspension settings. On top of that, Plaid comes standard with an height adjustable air suspension, meaning actual camber is being changed considerably between the two extremes, the lowest and the highest suspension setting. And here comes the catch, while the car needs to provide reasonable camber also in its highest suspension setting in order to ensure safe road holding when all 1000+ hp are released in a curve, in its lowest setting the camber will of course be more extreme which would lead to a higher tire wear. But that’s the case with all powerful premium sedans which need to provide decent wheel travel. It had been the case with all my Bmws M, and it’s apparently even worse with Audis RS. It’s also the case with my Plaid, but far from that what I have experienced with M cars. now, it again depends on your air suspension settings. I usually set mine to the middle setting. However, it seems you permanently use the lowest suspension setting, and it looks like you have even lowered the suspension on your Plaid. This of course increases the camber again and causes excessive tire wear. On top of this, the tires you are using are way to wide, there’s literally no space between the tire and the fender left. In Germany that’s not permitted and the car would lose driving permission.
Hopefully this video was meant as a joke, it simply does not comply with the professionalism you have been providing through the years.
I think he was pushed on doing this video.
@@ricardosimon1975
Also there’s no denying that because content consumers love to rag on Tesla as of late, especially so called “car enthusiasts”, content creators are incentivized to make content that criticizes Tesla.
Dude i had the exact same problem on my lowered Model 3 with 20inch rims. Went through 3 sets of rear tyres in 1 year. Finally installed adjustable cambers and toe arms with a good non-tesla alignment... problem gone.
Agreed just like I said... Industry standard...
Gas cars don't have this problem how much you spent turkey
You lowered it. You messed with the geometry.
I subscribe to the *"Wham Bamm Tesla Cam channel"* .
There is a lot of accidents where the Teslas hydroplane . A known heavy car loosing their grip while #ICE vehicles Whizz on by N/P.
Now I can understand how this happens.
With the wear being inside and people who is used to #ICE vehicles, not having to rotate their tires all that much. Yes , now I can understand the hydroplaning. 😳
Take out some of the batteries so it weighs less and get a camber kit and tyres Will last longer.
Tesla is doing the right thing by reducing price.
Its almost as if buying a car brand new instead of second hand is the most well known waste of money
A lot of “regular” cars had huge markups in 2021. Now, they are discounted below msrp. How is that any different than Tesla? You can’t negotiate Tesla prices, so their online prices have fluctuate with market demand. How is that hard to understand? Everything was inflated in 2021, Tesla vehicles were no different.
Car prices are still way inflated 3 years later.. they haven't gone down in price at all, Tesla's actually have gone down in price
@@RW-zh7kl I disagree, car and truck prices still have huge discounts. Ram has been doing 20% off msrp for a while now.
@@mxriderwd everyone is giving discounts on new cars right now, why?? Cuz there so freaking expensive! Those Dodge Ram trucks are still like $38,000 to $45,000 with the 20% discount! That's crazy for just a normal 4 door half ton pick up truck.
@ that’s exactly why I’m saying Tesla is lowering their prices , r3tard
Imagine you have this kind of experience with this company and still went ahead to pre-order the first-generation cyber truck. Honestly, as normal sane person, my first thought is either i don't believe his true frustration with his current car experience or this guy is so freaking rich and insane.
Amen!
Or just plain stupid, lacking all smarts and common sense. 10K in tires in 25,000 miles, duh, you have a LEMON or a vehicle. I We will never own an electric car, not until the grid is everywhere, maybe 2099 ? Cybertruck > Lots of Honda copy, the suspension, the under bed trunk and more. But wait, there are few delivered and few proven to be reliable. Not only is it an electric truck, it will get stranded without many charging stations and is not made to float. Deep mud nd soft sand, forget it.. FAIL
Imagine - all the horrible things that Elon has done and said since this guy bought the car and his main complaint is that it is costing him money because the price on the new cars has put him underwater. I assume that he can not see past the nose on his face.
We are budgeting and saving for an EV. I like the APP for Tesla more then the competitors, but I can not trust anything that they say - and that is a deal breaker.
Rented a MY and an Ioniq 5 for a week and enjoyed both of them - but Tesla has them beat on the charging front.
No. He is a content creator. He knows tens of thousands of potential views await him once he starts YT videos about his CT.
It's called business expense .he buys them to create content on TH-cam and generate views.
This guy has spent more money on tires than I spent on my
2002 Lincoln Town Car that I bought in 2007. Seventeen years later, it's still my daily driver!!
You would think after spending $140,000 on this Tesla, you would get more than half of a steering wheel.
@franknew9001 😂🤣. I’m back to gas not going back to Tesla that’s for sure.
@ JustinJohnson-id1sl-- Almost everyone that I know that has an EV, has a spouse that has a gas car. They use the EV for shorter city runs and charge at home. They use the gas car for long trips.
At least a third of the miles that are on my car are from long trips, so I don't think that I would ever buy an EV.
I think for Tesla cars it makes more sense to lease. That way you're not stuck with a huge loan in the event of a sudden price drop and can upgrade every few years to the latest model!
Leasing cars from US dealers is a very bad idea - unless you've got money to burn.
I think for Tesla cars it makes more sense to avoid haha. If you want to drive one find a sucker who overpaid for a rattlebox and have them take you for a ride in theirs.
I just checked leasing ,not bad but insurance is crazy as you need full coverage and not cheap.
Look into cars with better build quality and reliability. High-end luxury cars are over engineered and prone to expensive problems.
@@AmitPatel-vp2ev I have a Type R and am highly satisfied with it haha. And I paid 31k for it (gently used with a lot of goodies) at the start of 2020 (pre-pandemic) and it's now worth 30k. (obvi inflation happened in the meantime). Still ridic for what you get compared to some Teslas which lost half their value in a year.
We seen your videos, and we know damn well did you’re racing that plaid drifting burning tires and all types of crazy shit in that plaid.
Totally had a rear tire blowout in my "S" on Malibu Canyon road one morning taking my kid to school. Exactly what you are showing here is what happened to me. A year later I had to put $4,200.00 into suspension work, broken control arm, and all new bushings. Can't afford to replace the two headlights that randomly turn off and I have to manually turn them off and back on while driving at night.
I’m so sorry to hear that. Unreal.
Yeah I had two S's they just had endless repairs for years, I dumped Tesla a few years ago it's just not worth it in the long run. Maybe the non-S models are better? Someone else can find out.
Greetings from Central Europe. Considering that the Tesla car company has maintained the status of the most defective brand in the world, including the worst workmanship, from the very first year of production, and it's been like this year after year, and the worst thing to choose is the S model, I have to ask: What are you surprised about? What did you expect? With all due respect = you got what you wanted, so enjoy it. If I didn't hear the same thing every year = what a disaster Tesla is, then I would feel sorry for Tesla owners, but I can't feel sorry for anyone like that.
@philjamison7893 dont you have warranty on the car ?
@@Mijanboy I am not sorry for Tesla owners because they are mostly dicks who brag they drive a Tesla
Tesla stock down to $195 from a high of $690. Good times. I watch Maverick of wallstreet and he says Tesla costs to build have gone up 29% so the profit margin now for Tesla is 3%. That's really not sustainable. Buy UP fanboys!
Everything you covered in this video are good points other than the price drop. They were trying to figure out what good pricing is for their car and adjusted it accordingly after 2 years. This is totally fine, and it's the price you pay for getting the newest of the new tech. You are basically beta testing a hype product the second it comes out. The tire issue is very serious however and needs to be fixed.
This could be true if there weren’t price drops for their whole like up. I’m in the whole 20k and I have the model Y. And that’s not counting depreciation. I bought it for 62k and now they’re selling at 40k. It’s not just the model S
@AilecMusic
Why would anyone buy that brand? How can you trust them anymore? How do you know they won't drop the price radically again?
@@anttij2973 Teslas are still selling like hotcakes brand new so I don't know what you are talking about. The Plaid was a new model lineup / edition to the S model line and thus they were seeing how the market accepted their initial pricing. I assume they adjusted it based on demand and sales potential if they reduced it.
@@dyrandoms sucks to be you. You didn't value your money enough to wait for the price drops, being that they were clearly too expensive and since the very first year they were talking about making manufacturing more efficient to sell for cheaper, as their goal was always to make cars affordable enough to replace regular gas vehicles.
This is just common sense, and you lacked some of it.
@@rRekkoHow could he wait for price drops that weren’t told to the public or employees? That happened in the morning and Tesla employees would wake up to the news?
Almost everyone who bought in 2021 paid more - most at dealerships that charged 10k+ called a market adjustment. Definitely more a timing issue than anything else. i agree that 5k on a set of tires is ridiculous though - glad you pointed that out. Hopefully Tesla addresses this issue. On higher speck cars in your price range they would sell for 30k or more over MSRP so your pretty close to everyone else. It was a good time to hold off, but you have also generated revenue through your videos on youtube so hopefully this helped you recoup some of the costs of the depreciation.
thats not a timing issue. only tesla does this.
i'm negative 30 grand on my plaid, i'm stuck with it
@@Van-life-4-Jesus thanks to elon
@@deficator750 There was a price drop, but EVERYONE was paying more for cars in 2021, new or used, EV or ICE. Dealers were charging insane markups.
To be fair if you can afford a Rolls Royce Cullinan then you probably live with the 40% price drop and 8000 km tyre changes but am deeply appreciative of your vlog as I could never justify spending endless money and parting with my beloved 16 yr old Hyundai i30.
But then you cant make a yt vid bleating like a woman about how unfair it all is.
Everyone knew the value would plummet due to how quickly EVs are advancing.
saw the like/dislike ratio and knew this was gonna be good lol
To be fair, at the time you bought the car, the car market was insanely high priced. Used Teslas were going for 10-20% over be price. There are tons of people who sold teslas at a profit. It was just an insane time, and it seems tesla has had costs come down and adapted their prices from a time when costs were extra high, which somewhat inflated the prices back then.
The tire, however, isn't a new issue. I've had a 2013 p85+ for a decade. It has had similar wear, and I've gone through rear tires relatively quickly. That said, the lack of other maintenance over the last decade has easily made up the cost. My similarly aged f-150 goes through all terrain tires nearly as fast with a similar price tag. It also has cost 10,000 more in maintenance, without including the cost of gas, tires, and oil. I've gone through at least 3 more brake replacements in a similar 200,000 miles to my model s.
I did just get a used 2022 plaid. I picked it up for 90k with 9k miles.
This price drop hurts, but most of the depreciation was already built in as used car prices have dropped (along with the new prices on plaids coming down).
I've got 7k+ miles on that car since i bought it. I haven't checked the inside of the tires, but until your videos, i wasn't as concerned, as i figured it was just like my 2013.
I should also check the inside of my 2013s tires, as it's been a bit, but i don't remember this issue being as prominent since moving away from the Michelin supersport ps2 tires.
That said, the fact that it is still an issue is crazy. It's also crazy that you haven't had it fixed in the aftermarket if tesla won't fix it. Is that not possible?
All in all, these concerns didn't convince me to cancel my roadster or cybertruck orders, but definitely given me something to think about.
100% agreed, and is not a new thing at all. I bought a 2014 Model S 85, $114k at the time. Went through tires like a mofo, and not only the drive tires, the fronts too. Was changing out tires every 7k miles. I happened to get lucky and notice because I stuck my hand on the inner edge of the tire, just by chance while inspecting and caught a metal thread in my finger from the ripped up tire about to fail. Got sick of the car and got rid of it 2 years later.
I have a 2017 model s 90d with 106k miles and just purchased my 3rd set of tires. If one drives hard, expect to go through tires faster.
@@shou635you'd expect to go through tire faster, but not every 7k miles...
You kept it for two years…. For a guy that can afford to change cars I’d say the fact you kept it means it’s great
He's just a whining little girl who couldn't wait for prices to drop but elected to pay the higher price that's common with new model electronics. It's called recoup cost just like a new brand TV and new medicines. The companies always have to recoup the upfront design and engineering cost. 🤷♂️
Why didn't you lease, $7500 incentive applies and worst case you can turn it in. You can buy out leases at any time now.
Tesla was never well known for build quality, handling or vehicle dynamics. Just being electric and going quickly in a straight line. I’m guessing as more people catch on about this, the depreciation will get worse and worse….which we’re starting to see now.
Facts
it has more features, and the autopilot (which other cars do have, but they are far more expensive)
That sucks that the values dropped so harshly after you bought, but I'm super glad the prices are coming down
My Plaid with the 19s hasn’t had any of those issues in 35k miles. My yoke peal is the only issue I’ve had in 2 years. Love the car but the price cuts do suck big time for people like us that paid full price 😩
Allah ensures, dont worry.
nice for me i’m about to pick one up or maybe wait little longer see if they drop even more 😂 basically saved myself half the cost just by being patient, worth it.
You plaid double
You didn't pay full price, you over paid for a tweaked Model S.
You got your 15 minutes , I also would like to buy a toy that became an instant clasic and sky rockets in value.
Had the exact same problem in my Chevy Volt, just buy 4 tires once, you never rotate the tires ever, you just need to replace the 2 front tires , twice a year… problem solved, don’t rotate tires ever, back tires stay brand new forever
By the way, I upgraded to the Tesla Model 3 long range, I know that I will have this problem with any electric vehicle, save yourself this tire flaw, never rotate tires, big mistake, buying 2 tires is a lot easier than replacing 4 ❤❤❤😂😂😂 and now you know!! 😅
The price of the car is falling because Tesla optimizes their production of the cars like no other manufacturer in the world. This is their main focus. Tesla also claimed it for many years that their focus is to make EVs affordable. They are also doing it across their whole lineup of models, not just the top spec cars.
The car you bought cost much more to make than the same car which is built today, so Tesla is probably adjusting the price to keep similar profit margins. Take any other manufacturer and they probably would have kept the price to take all that extra profit margins away from the customers.
Even if you payed more than what it cost today, that car is still outperforming other cars which cost 10x more, so is it really a big deal? You also made a lot of videos using that vehicle which probably payed off for that difference in price already. At that time you bought it, it was also the only car with such specs, so you payed for exclusivity. People who buy high tech gadgets first always overpay several times more than what the same gadgets cost later after mass adoption. For example, compare it to buying some large size fancy TV screen today and then 2 years later and its price will probably drop similarly like this Tesla
I absolutely agree with you! You paid for exclusivity and I applaud Tesla for lowering their prices and allowing consumers to get into their vehicles at lower prices. Any other manufacturer would have 100% pocketed the extra profit. I can't believe people are annoyed at a product going down in price. I say this as a model 3 performance owner. I'm happy others can get into the vehicles at a lower price.
This is complete nonsense
Ya new tech always cost more to produce in the beginning. But I agree that the 21” tyre options need to be looked into to improve usability.
@@jordanchopra5038
Dude, anyone who works in the auto industry would tell you ONLY Tesla fanboys are OK with what Tesla did. Don't forget they raised their prices over the last couple years and then went ahead and dropped the price of Model Y's 14K ya know their number one selling car. They are no longer a startup. They are the most valuable car company in the world. They don't get a pass for screwing over hundreds of thousands of customers out of billions of dollars. Not to mention they stay profitable due to tax incentives and continue to ask the GOV for more money to build EV infrastructure for their semi's. All while their rest of industry made their own investments.
Tesla's are the new Chrysler 200. If you pull up to a lot to trade your car in. GOOOOD LUCK unless you have 15K in your pocket to cover the negative equity.
Exactly on point! 💯
You've got two major problems. First is the Michelin Latitude Sport tires are defective and not designed for the weight. In this case, it's not the camber but cornering that does the inside edges in. The second problem is the rear camber is -2.4 to -2.5 degrees in low (not very low) on all S/X refresh...not just Plaid. You can fix this with aftermarket upper arms or shims. The shims weren't possible before the refresh because the upper arms pre-refresh attached to the cradle with tabs rather than laterally with bolts like they do on the refresh. Agree tesla really needs to fix this. It was also bad pre-refresh but it's even worse now. My X Plaid had exactly the same inner edge wear at 10K miles despite the tread across the tire being almost evenly worn.
so you are saying its his fault not Tesla's? lol
@@Ferengi23 Nope. Just saying what he can do to fix this mess of a problem.
Oh ok it is really a bad design and parts use from Tesla. That confirms that fact that they are great in launching rocket. But when it comes to make quality cars, they have never succeeded, very much the same for all american manufacturers unfortunately
@@conglin6965 The design is actually very good but their choice of fixed alignment values was picked for track performance so they could get those crazy record lap times on stock unmodified cars. Unfortunately those values are not the best for tire wear. Half the problem is simply the tire itself which is why they ditched the Latitudes finally.
@@sorka95032 oh ok , thanks for the technical explanation. 👍🏼
Solution: follow guidance to use chill mode and medium suspension setting for all city driving and then lower at 60 mph. This will fix your issue.
He lowered the stock suspension too lol
Why spend over 100K to use chill mode??? Just buy a performance model 3 half the price.
I did this...didn't work. Tires still wore out at 5k miles.
I can't imagine how someone would buy a car for 140k that is from an amateur manufacturer. A land cruiser for 100k would have retained its value and you would have had 40k to spend for your adventurous trips, knowing that the car can take you almost anywhere in the world.
I bought my NEW 2019 Model 3 for 35K. Now CarMax offer me 27K after 4 Years with 25K miles Very good Deal for Model 3. Only lost a little money.
All cars lose money because they are inherently depreciating assets.
@@Resist4 Fake News : old Bmw Z4M coupe kept it's value, Porsche GT3RS always increase their value, Porsche 930 Turbo, same for Porsche GT4 and Porsche 718 Spyder, Ford GT 2005, Ford GT 2022, Lancia Delta Integrale HF and enough other wanted cars. Cars that depreciate in value are cars that most people do not desire. A 1980s Lancia Delta Intergrale HF with Martini Colors was 40k back in the days now it is way over 150k.
@@THEREALZENFORCE Don't throw out that Trump fake news line. Very few cars every appreciate, that's why I said inherently they are depreciating assets. In fact, financial advisors will say the same thing.
@@Resist4 Google the prices on the used car market then to see that i am correct.
Compare it to the value losses of 5 to 10 year old Tesla cars.
@@THEREALZENFORCEthose are the exceptions. 99% of cars depreciate, and you also can’t predict which cars won’t
I 100% support you Parker, and will continue to support you, but as an early investor in the company, you’re forgetting one of the biggest points here, the cost of battery manufacturing and battery technology in general has changed drastically over the years.
I paid $173,000 for my 2017 Tesla Model X P100D. At the time that was the fastest model available and it was fully loaded. Most people don’t even believe me when I tell them I paid that much. (Even though I still have the window sticker)
As an original early adopter in the technology, and you being able to have the vehicle first before anyone else, we pay the price. I had mine before anyone and I was super excited to be able to smash on any cars out there and have a 0 to 60 of 2.7 seconds in a 6,000lb SUV.
Naturally, as technology gets better and batteries become more available to provide higher mileage and more performance, the price is going to come down. At the end of the day, you have to remember that it’s not really a car, but more like a computer.
Thanks man. While it’s true batteries have gotten cheaper, the F150 lightning, Rivian and Taycan have maintained their msrps to respect their customers. The Taycan has increased in price by $5k since 2021, not decreased by 42k
@@VehicleVirgins You already knew that Tesla isn't like the legacy automakers, so you can't compare them.
@@VehicleVirgins yeah but like stated above, you can’t compare TESLA to Legacy auto manufacturers cause it’s completely different. The whole game plan from Elon was to bring sustainable electric vehicles to the market that people can afford and this is all part of his original plan that he wrote up bringing the pricing down to an affordable level.
On top of that, pricing has come down due to the overall cost of battery technology coming down as well.
@@VehicleVirginslol. It appears you are complaining about the company following their mission statement which is to consistently make the cars more affordable therefor expediting the transition to renewable energy. There are countless people in this thread that have experienced the price drops. It also appears you just have no clue what is happening in the macro scheme of things and how all the other automakers are doing.
So, a tech bro complaining about his tech bro issues? "I floor it regularly, but want my regular tires to last for years."
It’s not about that. Even if you floor it all the time, it shouldn’t eat a set of tires every 5k miles.
@@unconventionalideas5683 Electric produces torque like you haven't seen in your life. Take a ride you'll understand.
Imagine buying the latest and greatest technologies in their infancy (hd TVs, computers, etc) and then getting mad because you don’t understand price goes down over time as mass production increases and efficiency in production improves. Your fault for wanting to be the first to own said product. Also seems like you were only concerned about gap after you realized this fact and are now upset you can’t purchase it at this point. I don’t know who you’re trying to fool. Maybe it’s yourself
dont feel bad, you are not alone, many people got buried buying cars the last 4 years, they were paying way over sticker "their own fault" and now they are so far under water that their options are very limited. you really cant blame tesla, they were selling them for what people were willing to pay for them at the time and that has changed so they have no other option but to lower the price. its the market, not tesla.
The Tesla parts upsell scam was definately Tesla's decision
@@SVEVelsen upsell scam? People wanted to buy them like crazy, they couldn't make as many to cover the demand, so they did what any other sane person owning a business would do, raise the prices to the max, as much as people are willing to pay.
It's not a scam, people just wanted to buy it so badly they paid a shit ton of money, it's the people in the wrong, not Tesla.
This is the mentality that got my country (argentina) to such a huge inflation, nobody ever looks for prices and always pay whatever the stores are selling their stuff for, they can't just not buy the thing and wait for the prices to drop.
Yep
sure you can blame Tesla for demanding overly high prices the last years...
The tire issue should be a class action against tesla. 5000miles and tyres failure in one of the fastest cars ever.. Musk is a conman as far as lm concerned..engineering genius..be real!!
The tire issue is life-threatening, but the depreciation you can get over.
that isn't depreciation per se, they dropped the new car price
It's commonSENSE it will devalue
Devalues because the brand is too cheap to upgrade the body style even after 10 years!
Devalues becuz other big hitters are releasing luxury evcars full of outstanding tech like Mercedes
I recommend buying a Bugatti Veyron = it will train you perfectly on the topic of tires. You'll just have to watch...
Anyone know if these tire issues also exist with the model 3?
As far as the price drop causing your car to be worth less, while that definitely sucks, if you can afford a $140,000 car, I am not sure how bad I can feel for you.
The factory tires on my 2019 model 3 lasted 53k miles. I replaced them with the hardest rubber I could find and those tires are about worn out at 144k miles. The issue is the auto adjusting air suspension on the model S. Model 3 and Y don't have that issue.
Any model I think is flawed, just don't buy this brand, quality is just bad, our X and S had many failures, everything is just falling apart after a year.
It does not, it only effects S/X that run 295 or wider
My model Y is fine after 2 yrs, almost no tire wear
Just because you buy an expensive car doesn’t mean you’re any less aware of the value you’re getting for your money
Imagine financing a $120,000 car, then complaining to everyone else about it, knowing nearly anyone else could almost never afford that.
You are literally the definition of initial buyers remorse. Disconnected from reality. Should have waited.
Imagine the lithium battery in your Tesla burst into flames burns your building complex down. 😵 th-cam.com/video/U6dlHpKE-ug/w-d-xo.html
Thinking before buying, lol
Yo Stan, why you so mad 😂
Looking healthy man, been a while since I watched one of your videos. In regards to the video, you can usually get gap insurance through your automobile insurance (and it is usually way cheaper). Speaking of the lower price, just look at it like you were rich enough to buy it before the drop. 99% of the people out there cannot even buy it at the lower price if it makes you feel better (in other words not many people are going to cry tears for someone in the 1% complaining about losing some money).
So true....
healthy? hes balding
Alrighty Parker, this is the first time I've commented even though I've spent hours watching your videos over the years. Your car is lowered. You talked about this in another video. Did you have the car re-aligned after lowering? Also, since you hold a BSME and are a car enthusiast, I expect you know most cars have camber gain designed into the suspension travel. Lowering your car will put your neutral at a different spot in that range of dynamic camber. On a car that naturally raises and lowers it's critical to have proper understanding of this. For those that don't understand, imagine that a 100% stock height car will gain 0.5 degrees of camber when lowered from normal ride height to aero height at speed. But, on a lowered car, this gain may be closer to 1 degree or more. Extreme gain like this will exacerbate the wear Parker speaks about in the video. Add in the fact that most cars also have some sort of dynamic toe to help stabilize the car under squat and now you have serious camber combined with toe wear which results in the feathering on the tire. Parker - put your car back to stock height, have it realigned, and let me know if the wear continues as significantly. And go to 20" wheels. There's a reason why Tesla's own track pack is 20" and not 21".
My car had this issue before it was lowered and it’s been aligned multiple times (which has proven not to help unfortunately with this specific car). Lowering it definitely made it worse but the hundreds of people on the Facebook groups and the several people in this videos comments don’t have lowered plaids and suffer from this issue
@@VehicleVirgins I have a 23 Plaid. No issues on 19". However, this is not a new problem. This has been a Tesla problem for YEARS. They don't have enough adjustment options to get proper alignment. That being said... if the car is aligned at MEDIUM height, and you drive in Low (either manually or the car drops automatically), then you your alignment will be out-of-wack. You can't align a car at several ride heights. That being said, I don't understand why anyone would want anything bigger than 19". Better comfort, more range, less likely to puncture, less road noise, even slower. Not only that, but you are actually paying a premium for an inferior product.
@@VehicleVirgins Basically the lower you drop it ,the more camber you are adding in, irregardless of wheel size.. from what people are saying in comments, these cars do Not have factory adjustable camber settings, thus even if you aligned it at a shop after lowering, they wouldnt do any camber readjusting Unless you had added adjustable aftermarket arms...
My 2021 Plaid has 19" wheels with 12,000 miles 3 track days and autocross and my tires are fine. The price drop sucked but this is not a problem for new owners. They are getting the deal of their lifetime right now and I would advise them to get one. 2021 Taycan Turbo S were 220k with a few options and they are selling for 150k. Yeah I am not happy about the price drop either.
I regret not getting the 19s
@@VehicleVirgins Hey, I agree with you I paid $136k and we didn't get the tilting screen and the steam gaming capability. Tesla should give us even trade-ins/at no cost for 2023 Plaids or some kind of rebate or enable full FSD for free which is zero cost for them.
@@juanmedinar20dont be lazy sell your car elsewhere!! I want your wheels
@@VehicleVirgins Why did you think getting the larger wheels was a good idea? Low profile large wheels need to go away and never come back. They will wear out quicker, can be more easily damaged and drastically reduce range.
EXCEPT, the stock 19's look soooo gay! Like a 16 yr-old, pimple-faced dork on a first date. IF that's what you want to see everyday, go for it!@@Resist4
Tesla model X plaid 2022 owner and like so many others I’ve seen the car depreciate by about 30 grand and in less than two years I’ve owned it. Besides the fact that you don’t get the advertised mileage, I’ve dealt with a plethora of issues with the car breaking down so much to point where I’m returning the car under lemon law. Tesla offered to Repurchase the vehicle. Luckily, I’m receiving all my money back l, minus the PPF install and winter tires that I had to purchase because it just comes with the worst possible tires for winter weather in my opinion… Taking long trips to Vermont and I’m a snowboarder so yes, winter tires is a necessity. I do love the technology of a Tesla. I think they’re amazing cars, but in terms of range, they are just not quite there yet. I’d rather put gas in a car for five minutes than have to wait 20 minutes plus to charge my car each time on long trips… Time is money and there’s been times I probably get about 250 miles if that on an average of a 315 mile range that Tesla claims… That is just not good enough for me I read online somewhere by someone who put it quite well, Tesla is a rich man’s second car.
Tesla's price drops have affected the entire EV market. So is the solution to the tire issue installing adjustable control arms so that camber isn't fixed?? Seems like a straight forward fix.
Yes, but instead of installing N2itive camber arms, Parker choose to only install the drop links they offered him free for advertising, which made the issue worse. Then he turns around and acts surprised and crys about it.
Won’t work, the car needs the aggressive camber because of how much it weighs. Tires contact patch increases as weight transfers to outside wheels in corner, less aggressive camber would decrease grip as tires load up. That is very bad.
@jacobd1432 it just won't corner as well bro
You are way off. Having full contact and even wear is logical.
Aggressive camber is for racing.
The car will handle the weight evenly now and not just under cornering.
Genius
Lmao
@@cuinican1980 brother this thing weighs as much as a gothic cathedral. An even contact patch on a car this heavy with this suspension on tires this wide is going to turn the camber positive in any slightly aggressive driving. Oh no a deer! Lemme swerve so I can… well I guess spinning off the road into a forest at 70 mph is nice this time of day.
@jacobd1432 Bro, im 43 , I was a manager for Firestone in my 20's for 7 years. My Brother has a speed shop in Tampa Florida. Called Induction Performance, we specialize in GTR and Supras and anything with Turbos and Super Chargers.
You Sir are 100% wrong. The aggressive camber helps with handling. Just because you have a 305, 295, 335 size tire means you have more tire.
If I take any vehicle and cha he the settings with a camber kit. I can get more contact on the street. Therefore more rubber more grip hitting the pavement. The only thing this will change is the ability to take a corner 'faster'. That's it, only change it does. My wear on my tire is more even. Supports the weight 'BETTER' because the weight is distributed by the entire width of the tire now. Not just the inner edges.
You not only wrong you are wrong about your entire thought process. You literally think this even holds the weight better.
Doesn't matter the car weighs 5k. Having camber and toe set properly. Turns you into a Cadillac. Nice and smooth and stable.
You want to take turns on the track in track mode. Change the tires and rims out. With your set of racing cup tires at the ready. Adjust your camber for the corners. Have some fun.
When your done, switch back the rims to your driving rims and tires. Adjust the camber back. You have a Cadillac again.
I own a Model S performance as well as a Model S Plaid. I also own a ZR1 corvette as well as a Shelby GT500 SuperSnake.
You Sir, are a boy. Boys don't like learning from Men. It's how I was when I was 16 years old. I thought I knew it all.
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I am definitely disappointed that the price dropped after I had bought a M3 in 2020, but at the same time, I'm also happy because it means that the same care is more accessible and is even more reasonably priced. It just means that when my current one dies or gives out, I can get whatever the newer one is at a better price and likely with more kinks and bugs worked out.
What really happens is production of the car gets more efficient and they lower the price because they can now supply much more, it’s a way of controlling supply & demand which is great but obviously flawed
@@DemonTied not flawed, the same thing happens with all tech, the first gen cell phone costs a ton, 3 years down the road it's cheep and the kinks have been worked out.
it would be flawed if when they reduce the production costs and didn't pass on those savings to customers, you always pay a premium to have the first batch.
@@robgilmour3147 in terms of the car market this would never happen, if anything car prices only go up. I mean I think it’s great because it made it possible for me to get a MYP but I’m sure the early adopters don’t think it was so great. I get what you mean though but it’s just an objectively controversial move on teslas part, benefitted many people (including themselves cuz more yearly sales) but also massively devalued it for many people as well. Imagine you buy a $75,000 2021 car and a few years later you’d be lucky to get 28k out of it, must suck lol
That price delta is insane. I would lose my mind if I bought it at $140K.
The new NSX is worth 140K.
The Tesla? Never!!
the videos made with the early plaid can buy you plenty plaids@@mr.2cents.846
If you can afford to take out a 140k loan on a new car you shouldn't be worried about that. That, or you're just incredibly financially irresponsible.
Imagine agreeing to buy a car, then being angry that someone else won’t pay off your loan.
correction...it's price is 62 grand, and you owe 100k + interest. Some of you need to look at an amortization chart sometime and see that you are paying at least double the loan amount when you add in interest. Loans are always a bad idea.
Taking Tesla's loan option seems beneficial to me because in my case I would invest the money that I would be temporarily saving for that purchase.
If you take right now the Model X Plaid for example, you have to put down roughly $15k-$20k, and pay ~$1,250 a month over 8 years (so $120,000 over 8 years). The total cost will be about 22% higher than purchasing it in one go (so $33k more, which is not double at all btw, no idea where you got that from), but you can make a hell of a lot more than $33k within 8 years by investing the $120,000 you don't spend immediately.
So loans are a blessing if you know how to invest.
Double the loan? I think your math is very off 😂
"I bought a Rolls Royce, I know cars aren't investments. I'm still complaining about a price drop even when I said I wouldn't complain."
I'm pretty sure those rims you are running aren't OEM. You can even see those rims don't fit the car, why would you still run with them? No wonder you'll get tire issues. Also if the camber is an issue, get it aligned properly. About the depreciation, nobody told you the car wasn't gonna depreciate in value so why would you cry about it.
He said they're factory rims.
@@australienski6687 those aren't lol
@@matthijspijpker What brand are they then?
@@australienski6687 The look like AG I think AGL75
I was about to go by Tesla tomorrow, but after I watch a video.Thank you very much.I'm going to buy a toyota twenty twenty four corella
Totally understand your frustration. End of 2021 was a terrible time to buy a car, even though rates were so low. Used car prices were super inflated at the time, as well. On the flip side, there were a number of people who ordered Plaids when the price was $110k, but then got delivered when they were $130k but were locked into their original price, so they probably felt pretty happy then, and now their cars are down a more reasonable percentage from their purchase price. For me, a current model 3 owner, and former S owner, who wants to get back into an S, this drop is a blessing because used S prices are going to drop as well, allowing me to get much more car for my money.
When looking for a used model S I'd take this tire issue into account.
I think they fixed that issue with newer ones. They reworked suspension and frame. Also making it perform better on track.
Stay away from the used p85's
@@zbirdmusic Why is that? I was thinking at least a 100D, or P100D, or the newer 2020 Dual Motor.
Greetings from Europe. Unfortunately I can't say if this is 100% true, but it is a fact that here in Europe people are talking a lot about the Model 3 made in China and made in Germany. The difference in quality is said to be striking, and you will also pay 5,000 to 8,000 euros more for a new piece made in Germany than for a piece made in China.
I ordered my Plaid when ordering first started. The initial price was $120k, not $110k and then Tesla raised it to $130k at the Plaid event in June 2021. I got locked in at $120k even though the car was $10k more expensive when I picked mine up in Aug 2021.
It’s no different than any other new technology. They are always super pricey at first…. Then they drop with more production
What other car has dropped their MSRP 30%? I've never seen it. Theres a big difference between an $800 phone and a $140,000 car. Even still Apple INCREASES their price of the iphone every release
There is no new technology in a Tesla. They are terrible at building basic car technology that has been around for decades.
@@VehicleVirginsEXACTLY
@@ethan424040I guess Autopilot and carbon-sleeved electric motors is old technology, to say nothing of building the quickest acceleration car in the world short of a Rimac Nevera
@@VehicleVirgins you knew Tesla was not like every other car company and they want to make EV's affordable to the masses. Note to self...stop buying cars costing over $100,000. And the GAP insurance thing is something you should have. known about prior to financing the car.
So if the price increases in the future, will you write a check to make up for the difference?
I didn’t see anyone who bought a car pre-Covid waiting in line to write a check to the manufacturers when the prices increased
good point
FYI, you can get Gap Insurance through your auto insurance company.
I haven't had the tire issue at all with my Tesla S Plaid, but I have the base OEM 19inch wheels and all-season tires. This must only be an issue with the 21 inch wheel option.
The insane price drops is what's been getting me. The car is at least fun and crazy fast, but like Parker I now HATE Tesla.
I was able to get GAP through my insurance company for $80 per year.
its a 21" wheel / performance tire thing
Right there with you brother; will NEVER buy another Tesla. Love my Plaid but despise Tesla
I’ll buy the plaid with that discount this is good for new customers.
My 2013 p85+ with 21" at least initially burned through inside edges in 10k miles. The problem isn't as severe as it used to be. Not sure if it's due to a different variant of Michelins I'm using on them now.
That said, the price thing sucks, but the entire car market was over priced in 2021, and tesla specifically was fighting through supply constraints. Used cars were selling above the cost of new cars then. Things have changed.
@@Matt.e_Blackwhat's your next car gonna be?
Tesla is a new manufacturer. As they streamline their processes and optimize production, cost will come down. They did not make 40% when they initially sold the car. Battery tech and everything has come down a lot in prices. Tesla is adjusting their prices partly due to lower cost of production.
From the model S manual:
Tesla recommends rotating the tires every 6,250 miles (10,000 km) or if tread depth difference is 2/32 in (1.5 mm) or greater, whichever comes first.
Tire rotation is an essential part of tire maintenance. It helps maintain an even treadwear pattern which enhances the tire's overall wear quality, decreases road noise and maximizes tire life.
Vehicles with staggered wheels and non-directional tires can be rotated side-to-side (left-to-right) but not front-to-back as the front and rear tire size is different. Left-to-right rotation can increase tread life by changing the direction of rotation for each tire and balancing shoulder wear.
I'm 63 and I haven't spent $10,000.00 on tires in my WHOLE life. My current car a Ford 2016 Explorer that is an 4WD model with 89,000 + ml and it's still on it factory tires. Here in Miami some people are only getting 700 to a 1000 miles on a set of EV tires. It seems the rubber compound doesn't like the hot Florida roads.
buy the right treadwear tires. i buy continental sports i used to buy for my high hp bmws and put it on my tesla awd lr and so far so good.
They Hot Rod the Tesla because they never had a fast car before! Mostly Young Punks Blowing their money what little they have after rent and Beer
The money they save by not buying gasoline is used to buy new tires every 3 months. There's always a catch.
Na! Just punk lead foots! I got over 50,000 on my tires on a Tesla! I’m 73 and don’t drive like a shit head!
The other thing about Tesla, like no other manufacturer. Is within a model year, they are making improvements. So the year you bought, costs probably were a lot more. As they improve manufacturing and costs come down, they can reduce the vehicle price.
That seems less of an issue as the tire problem.
As for gap insurance. I didn't think they ever offered that at the bank. That is something you talk to your auto insurance company about (at least that is how I've always understood it).
Pricing has changed due to improved and more efficient manufacturing which is dropping the total cost of manufacturing the cars - not Tesla simply ripping you off. They've been pretty clear all along that their goal has been to lower costs and prices. I'm totally with you though when it comes to, "do I want to buy one right now," and potentially losing money during the course of ownership. I'd be pretty peeved if I were in your position with that big of a drop. I was just talking about this with a friend. The X and S have dropped something like $40k just since January.
lol we found the Elon musk fan boy
Not even close. Just facts. They’ve been saying it all along. I even agreed that I’d be pissed if I had bought one over the last year. I’m not buying a Tesla for that very reason.
There is no company in the world that would drop the price of something that drastically because of more efficient manufacturing. A massive drop like this means that a lot of people are underwater on their loans, which means that they owe more on the loan than what the car is actually worth. High-end brands do not do devalue their top products like this.
You guys all are wrong, the used car prices were inflated and so did the new car prices that were inflated in 2021 and 2022, slowly fed raising interest rates on loans and macroeconomics the demand and affordability became less and less ans just to add its the high interest rates. To offset the interest rates and reach more buyers tesla reduced the prices.
Tesla cope.
You need a bottle of wine to go along with this, for relaxing purposes only... hehe
He probably had so many and then came out in frustration 😂
My Tesla is kind of the Tesla roadster so nothing happened to that every people keep getting pictures of my car that disturb me. That’s why I don’t like sometimes Tesla model one because I have one.
This isn't just a Plaid or even a Model S issue. I've been driving Tesla Model S and X variants since 2015. The tyre wear issue has been a problem since day one on both the S and the X. The X wears the inner edge on the rears, the S wears the front outer edges. Cars are as perfectly aligned as it is possible to get with the limited range of adjustment available and tyre pressures are per manufacturer. I'm lucky to get 10,000km's of normal commuting out of a set on either X or S. The price drops have also been an issue since at least 2017.
I mean if you were okay with paying $139,000 in 2021 why complain?
*Tesla Hype
he made millions wiht this car in social media, this video is another success for sure.
good for him, soon we will see him in the cybertruck
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl isn’t this entire video literally about how he’s not going to buy another Tesla tho?
@@r3x_delta30 it's all about the clicks. These guys talk out of the side of their mouths. Meanwhile they bank on it all.
Respectfully this sounds like a one-percenter problem. At least regarding the price drops this is great. It's the only reason I was able to reasonably afford a Model Y Performance. It's like $20k less than a few months ago.
Nice to know what many many people are experiencing
I was about to buy one
I can second all of this 😂 although I switched to 19s and tire life is a peach.. still not ok. Great car, super convenient, got smashed on depreciation 😂
So you don't have the issue on the 19's? I actually have an order in for a new plaid and went with the 19's cause I figured the tire price alone would be annoying for the 21's, didn't even know about this issue. I drive a lot so if I have to change tires every 5k miles it would be basically every 1.5 months or so lol
yeah not a single issues on the 19s@@esk1mo
7k miles Plaid on my 19s, all good.
Pissssssssed about the depreciation, worst ever. Most likely cancel my Cybertruck Beast since they screw us over in price drops
Quit whining and keep the car,why should someone else buy your discards.
@TrackSlayers All hail the king of the ring! Show your respect to this man everyone. Mans has the world record for the nurburgring lap time and daily drives a plaid. envious
I love how a car that pushes limits as crazy as the plaid does gets such an uproar over maintenance costs. Heavy weight, crazy accel numbers and handling. Math?
Because it’s marketed as a family daily driver ???
Mine is not a Plaid. It's a 2013 S with an 85W battery. It's hardly a rocket ship pushing the limits.
@jetx2599 to be fair, it is. Not keeping up with maintenance is an owners responsibility.
Its quiet and smooth, deceptively so. It doesn't feel like a supercar, which would realistically have the same tire life if it weighed 2000lbs more and got ripped around everywhere.
Sorry but Supercars have way better tire lifespan than this. This is just a design flaw with the 21in setup.
@Neojhun 1000+lbs over any supercar. Easy math. Its gonna shred tires doing the same sort of numbers, especially on a daily basis.
I just bought a brand new Model 3 performance for $41k. I think I’m gonna be just fine since I don’t drive like a 16 year old and I’m not going to lower it so that it’s impossible to get the proper alignment which will cause premature tire wear 👌🏻
Getting a car in the low $40s, with a top speed of 162mph and goes 0-60 on 3.1 and will do 11.7 or better in the 1/4 mile is a pretty good bang for your buck…
Thanks! Finally someone tells the truth. On my Tesla P85D, almost $10,000 on tires to go 100,000 miles! That's why I did not buy a new Model S Plaid. I checked and sure enough 9 years later Tesla's Model S performance car STILL DOES NOT HAVE ADJUSTABLE REAR CAMBER ARMS! How can this be?
The cambered wheels are an issue, but not as much as those shitty Charmin-soft Pirelli Summer tires.. I had three Hellcats prior to my Tesla and they all had the same issue
I'm running Pilot Sport 4S tires not Pireli
Usain bolt wears out his running shoes much faster then we can.
You're taking this too personal. If you weren't the type of person that trades their car every 2 years, it would hardly matter. That car is good for 10 years at least.
When the Plaid came out it was a one of a kind vehicle as far as performance, and Tesla had control of the EV market. People were paying significantly over MSRP for low mileage used Plaids for a while. Tesla charged what they did because people were willingly buying them. Now the EV market is much more saturated and there is more competition. Tesla had to cut prices to maintain sales. Simple as that.
Its unfortunate for owners who bought a while ago, but that's the price you pay for buying almost anything when it is new and cutting edge. Eventually everyone else gets in on it and prices have to come down.
One of a kind performer? The M4 xDrive with an "over the air update" runs in the 9s too. Plenty of cars have been running those times before
More money than sense😂. When will they ever learn? Ya being ripped off😂