Here's The Proof... Tesla Cybertruck vs Porsche 911 Drag Race
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- No, Tesla's Cybertruck is not faster than a Porsche 911 while towing!
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At the Cybertruck delivery event, Tesla CEO Elon Musk claimed the Cybertruck could tow a Porsche 911 down the 1/4 mile faster than a Porsche 911 could do it by itself. I did not believe it, so I made a video explaining why - but math is for nerds, let's do it for real! Thanks to MotorTrend, this test is now a reality, as we pitted the CyberBeast against a manual Porsche 911 T - the slowest current generation Porsche 911.
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The real winner is math.
And humor.
Maths looking on wondering Americans can never pronounce its name…🤦♂️
@@fearnpol4938 Moose is also the plural of Moose. You don't need that redundant S when context provides a quantity. "Maths" has gotta be one of the dumbest sounding Brit terms ever lol.
@@G82Jesse Maths is short for mathematics. You do mathematics, not mathematic.
Most English speaking countries call it maths.
sssssssssssss. Or, maffs, as the Brits say it.
You know what's sad? If TESLA had said 'we ALMOST beat a 911 towing a 911' I would have been just as impressed.
Yeah. Now instead they'll get dragged for being deceptive. All they had to do is be honest; it is actually quite fast and it doesn't have to win to prove that point. Smh
and we dont get all this drama in a pool ??? )))
? @@tvguide4khv
I'm sure we're many who feel that way, but I guess sometimes controversy means exponentially more exposure and ultimately more sales.
For real. And they probably could have even claimed honestly that their engineers think they could actually pull it off with some light modifications (remember Tesla gets to play with the safety margins on the batteries and motors too)
Something I look for in a pickup truck is the capability to tow a sports car faster in a drag race situation than the sports car itself. Extremely important factor in my purchasing decision.
Yeah same, as i do this most weekends. People would appreciate it more if they weren't just posers buying trucks to take us space. Real truck owners tow sports cars faster than the spots cars almost daily
I initially thought they were kind of cool but they seem like a complete flop
Don't be so miserable
Clearly youve never driven on American roads amongst truck drivers. Only about 5% of them are doing truck things in them, the rest just want a big truck that goes fast. I am not surprised in the slightest to see the Cybertruck selling so successfully. Aside from lacking a V8 its perfect for the average American truck bro.
@@Roddy556 im ok with some strange car designs, I realize the cyber truck has issues well beyond it's aesthetic
What a power move to actually test that to prove the math is correct
You can't prove that the math is correct. You can correlate but math doesn't prove anything. Ever.
@@sleepingwarrior4618😂😂😂
@@HHH-tz4gc you disagree? You think maffs is reality? Lolz
@sleepingwarrior4618 😂😂😂
@@sleepingwarrior4618me after watching that one veritasium video
Once again an engineer with a white board has trumped marketing propaganda. The hero we deserve.
it was a game of other engineers )))
marketing wasn't mathing
They may sue him
@@masudsaleh5155 For math? It would be completely frivolous because the initial marketing claim would be deemed false advertising.
@@masudsaleh5155 For what??! He didn't do anything wrong. He just disproved a lie.
I love the fact the cybertruck board drawing is just a triangle with wheels 😂😂
Y'all I've been professionally drawing on whiteboards for about 10 years, I've got this down.
I have a snip of this (and the 911 as a Beetle, and the CT towing the 911) from the last video as my desktop background on my work PC. I work with Tesla and it's my subtle dig at the company on conference calls, which they seem find amusing.
I mean, that’s basically what the Cybertruck is too: a 3.5 ton metal triangle on wheels. I saw one parked on a street in my neighborhood recently and they actually look pretty ridiculous in person. It was too wide to fit in the parking spot and a bird had dropped a big white spot smack in the middle of the hood.
Very accurate 😂
In fairness, that was the original design sketch.
About Porsche providing the car, I think I remember Mat from the Carwow channel mentioning how Ferrari, Mclaren and so on usually, send some extra people to drag races to be around the car in case anything goes wrong, while Porsche just sends the car like "It'll do whatever you need it to".
So among all performamce brands I somewhat trust that the Porsche provided was just a regular Porsche Carrera T with no special adjustment for this specific drag race.
This has been said to me by very reliable sources
Porsche produces a huge amount of cars in comparison to a McLaren and most other sportscar brands. With increased volume comes increased production automation following reduced variability from car to car. So this just makes sense.
@@TyrusSwonagreed, also my understanding is that the Porsche 911 is currently the most reliable German car according to their equivalent of UL, which is wild.
carwow are no reliable at all, they don't have any proffessionals yet they are monopoly
@@pr0ntab Porsches are NOT reliable. Ive owned one and had more problems with it than ANY car ive ever owned.
So an aluminum single-axle trailer rated below the weight of the 911, and then they gutted 150 pounds out of the trailer. Yikes.
No wonder they were worried about safety at the 1/4 mile that thing was a death trap
And I thought their safety concerns were just a lame excuse! 😅
Kind of happy they didn't do that 1/4 mike, would have hated to work anywhere near that whole shoot
@@tach-uq5tw Yeah, can you imagine that trailer folding up at over 100 mph?
Yeah, I was wondering how they took, what, 15% of the weight out of the trailer..? I mean they're not exactly loaded with extras to begin with...
Tesla is so lucky, picking the exact right model randomly out of dozens and dozens of different 911s!
Me, closing my eyes and definitely not peeking while I select which receipt to hold up.
Tesla removing weight from the trailer and everything else is pure embarrassing. U really can't trust a thing elon says.
@@user-my4xu4gf1z Do you really think the marketing guy sat with Elon Musk 1 on 1 and they discussed they should falsely advertise the quarter mile time while towing? The Tesla employee literally stated that they ran the simulations and it won.
Now picture this: You are Elon Musk, infinite money, can get the best engineers of the planet together, they have worked on tremendously succesful projects outside and within your company. You let your engineers test, they decide to run the 1/8 mile test, it's a success, they decide to simulate a 1/4, it's a success. They get back to you (likely through a spokesperson who is that, a spokesperson, not an engineer, because I doubt communications between Elon and his employees are 1 on 1) and say that "the Cybertruck is a total success, the guys tested it, wins in 1/8 mile and 1/4 mile while towing a porsche, yes Elon, we tested on track and in the sim, it wins in both!!!!!!!!1111111111oneone".
Wouldn't you believe your engineers and proudly state your product accomplishes this impressive feat?
You just like to hate on Elon, he's still a person, he's a guy.
Pretty amazing that the Cybertruck beat the 911 while towing a 911 in the 1/8th mile. It really is a beast.
@@EngineeringExplained so you just removed my comment then, ok
This is probably the furthest anybody has gone to disprove an auto manufacturer’s marketing claims since everyone jumped on SSC for lying about the Tuatara 316mph top speed run. The automotive community needs to do this more often.
Oof, I was on the phone with Shelby for that, what a mess!
Yeah it's weird how unevenly companies can be treated. Some can get away with murder but others people twist everything even if it's crazy close at worst.
@@EngineeringExplained I think that most ( ~80% ) of the general public does not question anything anymore - Sadly!!
@@EngineeringExplained But you elected to try to trash Tesla, not the SSC🙂. I'm amazed at how many people hate Elon/Tesla. Disclaimer: sometimes I drive my Tesla w/ 160 on the busy Autobahn.
Cheers!
Edit after response: @EngineeringExplained also trashed SSC, so I was wrong about that statement.
@@mrmariusi no wonder a tesla user got offended that someone badmouthed tesla😂 tesla users are absolute snowflakes lol
everytime a cybertruck shows up on screen i think my gpu is artifacting.
The 379-horsepower 911T with a manual transmission is also the lightest and slowest 911.
The base model 911 also has only 379 horsepower, but comes only with the 8-speed dual-clutch PDK transmission, and is faster.
Optioning the lighter 911T with the PDK, would make it faster than the base 911.
The 450-horsepower 911S is significantly faster, ESPECIALLY if optioned with the PDK.
The 473-horsepower 911 GTS is the real sweet spot in the 911 line-up, and is even faster with the PDK.
The 572-horsepower all wheel drive 911 Turbo with the PDK is simply in another league.
And there really isn't anything available that's faster than the 640-horsepower all wheel drive 911 Turbo S.
We’re just gonna have to wait for the 992 generation GT2RS. 🤘🏽
@@alexhayek2691 Yeah, I didn't even bring up the GT cars- the 997 GT2 RS was 600 horsepower, the 991 GT2 RS was 700 horsepower- the 992 GT2 RS could be 800 horsepower...in a 3,200 pound car.
It was so funny that they raced an electric truck with 834HP and instant acceleration against one of the lowest models of the 911 😭😭 Like are we supposed to be impressed 💀💀
Damn it must be fun walking into a Porsche dealer. The odds of you leaving with the 911 you actually want is like 0.
This channel is such a treat! No arguing. No taking sides. Just math. And occasionally, a nice demonstration to back up said math :D
Yet there is the conversation about what Tesla did different at the very end of the video. Which does not back up the math.
Telsa did not do a querter mille in the original fisrts show of power, it was a a 8th.
Who cares? Math without empirical evidence is pretty much a useless exercise. That is the important part.
@@ArubaSailing But they claimed they would win in a 1/4, which was demonstrated to not be true.
the tesla engineer immediately responded on twitter explaining why they didnt reproduce it. didnt set up trailer properly.
Jason: “Lawyers don’t want anyone to have any fun.”
*lawyer leans into frame and whispers something to Jason.
Jason: “in my opinion”
*flashbacks to Jeremy Clarkson and the Tesla Model X full of lawyers scene*
And @lagundafire is the lawyer
and heard other people say this but not me
People are always worried about plastics or rocks from space or nukes ending the planet... but the threat of over-regulation is far more real and insidious
Is there a way to search for planets that have been regulated to extinction? Just a space station of lawyers still in orbit?
@@arxcns the real winners there was the lawyers on retainer 😂
Porsche Carrera T = 4.3seconds, Porsche Turbo = 2.7s, Porsche turbo S = 2.6 seconds for 0 - 60mph.
Tri Motor Cyber truck 0 - 60 mph = 2.5 seconds.
@@user-jt4fy4od9rPorsche top speed - 330kmh/205mph
Tri motor is 2.6, and tio speed of 209kmh/130mph.
For comparison to both, a Kawasaki Zx14r in the usa can be grabbed second hand for under $10k easy, and will do 2.6s and 300kmh/180mph completely stock.
@@user-jt4fy4od9r Turbo s, more like 2.1/2.2 in reality. Also - tesla kinda fudged the marketing on their plaid as well, saying it goes below 2.0 0-60, which was also a lie.
@@RY3ER_ When my Plaid turns up I will let you know.
@@user-jt4fy4od9r cool. We had a plaid on the bulgarian drag championship this and last year, it kinda struggled against the more modded cars on the 1st 330ft.
The Cybertruck achieves 88 mph at the 1/8 mile? That explains how they won the drag race. It begins to time-travel at the 1/8 mile, then it can finish the drag race before it even launches. You forgot to activate the flux capacitor.
Problem with dilithium crystals not up to spec.
“Nothing too serious”
*cut to $350,000 worth of cars on a drag strip for the express purpose of calling out the most hyped car company in existence for lying*
👌
Gotta show the evidence
@@mezzb It's amazing what a small-pp moron figurehead with too much power can do to a company.
@@mezzb they lost their way as soon as they sold out to Elon
Musk advertised the Tesla semi truck on how much faster it is than the normal semi, and no one cared. Semi's are not supposed to be fast, they are supposed to haul multiple tons of cargo and get it to its destination safely, speed is a small factor in that equation🤣🤣
Super genius my a$$.
Yeah legacy car companies NEVER lie or hype 🙄
motortrend collab? ✅
cybertruck v 911 drag race? ✅
math? ✅
it's a fake drag race. the cybertruck is a real truck from a dealer, the porsche is a tuned porsche on loan from the porsche PR team. if you knows history of Germans Press cars review from the last 20 years they all tuned the engines to give more than promise for the journalists. the maths are good.
@@plop31 I wouldn't trust someone's words when they can't express their opinion cohesively even after editing their comment.
@@jkliao6486 So what? You can't do any research to check the veracity of the information on the cars in the press pool? Because you don't like a piece of information, you decide not to check whether it's true or false? if you're more confident about form than substance, you're clearly not a scientist and you should go back to school and not post comments on this channel
@@plop31 you didn't watch the video did you. The 911 did exactly what multiple cars of the same spec have done in tests
@@plop31 Did you even watch the hole video. The 911 did the same times that have been confirmed.
Is this the German citizenship test? Congratulations on passing
That's crazy you calculated it exactly down to a hundredth of a second, always love this channel
he fakes his test tho. used stock stuff and in unfavorable positioning.
Jason just solidified our confidence in his math abilities for eternity.
Not only that, he shows us the math, you can fact check, so it leaves no gaps. Love that.
Anyone can do the actual maths, it's the engineering involved that's impressive. Jason had to determine _how_ to calculate the figures, then make reasonable assumptions and estimates to feed into his equations, and interpret the results from an informed viewpoint. That's not just mathematics, that's the essence of engineering
None of this is hard math
It's pretty cool how far high school physics can take you if you really understand it.
Is it sad that "you could become a TH-camr" is apparently a valid form of encouragement to get kids to learn math?
@@Sparky400 I mean way back in time someone probably said "you could become a news reporter" to encourage a kid to study, you definitely don't see anything sad about that and I definitely don't see anything different about that. Being a youtuber can mean a variety of things, ranging from dancing in public for no reason to basically making and designing a racing car at home that beats Porsche not only in the 1/4 mile but also on the track. Being a youtuber is not sad in any way and no one should be ashamed of being one. Sometimes the only difference between a university professor and a youtuber might be that the youtuber shares the same knowledge for free to everyone in a more understandable way.
@@Sparky400how is it sad
@@Sparky400 Some TH-camrs are doing $50K/month and up. Even making $5k/month as youtuber would be pretty respectable in my books.
btw, I don't mean high school physics taking Jason to where he is in life. His knowledge is definitely above high school level. I just mean that 90% of his analysis is understandable after AP physics!
I just took an automotive engineering course. I see all the equations you’re using in my textbook. Very cool! You’re explaining it in a way that grad students can agree with, but non-students can understand and enjoy. Good job!
Your honesty and transparency is so so refreshing! I agree with one of the posts below, if Tesla had said we "almost" beat a 911 it would have been true and just as impressive!
I’m 9 years past a 40 year career as a ChE. I spanned the years from a Post VersaLog to a Lenovo T60. My most important calculational tool was a simple chalkboard at the start and a whiteboard at the end. My ChE professors had 3 rules: state your basis, state your assumptions and draw a picture before you start anything else.
I'm the guy that enjoys the video until the math begins and then finds somewhere else to go.
@@TheSkyline5467 I'm a huge math guy, but I still like you more than Mr. Life-Story/Weird, Traditionalist, Math Virtue-Signaler up above
As long as you're dealing with classical mechanics, that's always true. You might be extremely unable to do the mat because it might literally be analytically unsolvable, but to make sure your starting equations are right you should always draw a free body diagram.
@@TheSkyline5467you're in the wrong place then, also a dumbass
Just finishing a masters in ChE, can confirm the three rules from professors are still the exact same.
Thank you for holding Tesla accountable to those marketing claims!
Exactly ..because that was the reason I was going to buy that truck.
@@davidhumeston5292 😁
@@davidhumeston5292the cybertruck isn't a truck, it's a car you buy in an attempt to be cool
@@davidhumeston5292you can still buy one if you want. It’s ok.
@@davidhumeston5292 they should still be held accountable, y'all tesla fanboys will defend tesla with your lives if possible no matter whatever bs they come up with, there should be a limit to such blind bias, elon glazers are absolutely pathetic
A good rule of thumb: don’t believe ELON
its not that the cybertrucks time is not impressive but its the fact that once again they lied about almost every detail and people gobble it up as is
As a fellow mechanical engineer, I salute your math.
To be able to get your predictions THIS close to the real numbers -- THAT is the TRUE power (of math).
The delta between your predictions and the actuals is SIGNIFICANTLY less than the run-to-run variation that you may see in said 6 runs.
That is AWESOME!!!
Stay in school, kids.
And get REALLY good at math, because that's how you can provide the data and the evidence for when someone is trying to scam you with a marketing trick.
It's strange how your comment doesn't get the amount of likes it deserves. You got mine anyway, and I am not a fellow engineer.
Math also improves how you think, most times there are multiple solutions to a single problem. I love and hate maths lol
@@robertopreatoni7911 There are a LOT of people who HATE math, my wife included.
So, I'm not super surprised by that.
@@aimanazrie8944
Yup!
As a sidebar, I've actually been able to use one of the AI large language models to show why knowing your basic arithmetic skills are so important because I asked one of said AI LLMs to solve a basic, simple, arithmetic problem and it got the wrong answer (which I knew it was going to get it wrong), and I showed it to my tiny human #1 to demonstrate why you can't trust a "computer".
@@ewenchan1239 I trust computers, they never fail. What fails is the algorithm. And that is written by humans.
Fine i'll do it myself
-jayson said calmly to tesla
German Speaker here. Thanks for pronouncing Porsche the correct way and not "Porscha" or "Porsch"!
It is porsch. Deal with it
@@03056932 If you sai Porsch, you will Pay for removing every "E" on every Car made by them
@@03056932comical you’re telling a German how to pronounce a German car companies German name.
Americans saying PorschA is the same as as Germans saying PorschE, deal with it, nobody cares.
@@DoktrDub no its not..
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just show the race already!!
"I got bigger than yours" kinda war
Y’all saw the scale numbers, I’m def smaller 😭
@@EngineeringExplained Their brains are in the shadow of your's, buddy
@@EngineeringExplained Motor Trends' article mentioned that you tipped the scales at 154 after a bachelor party in Mexico. I'm sure most of it was your brain.
@@TheImperiusv Haha, I loved that bit from the article, it's true!
Now someone do Optimus
I think the marketing of "500 mile range for $39,990" is a little worse, but maybe that's just me..
Where's the FTC?! Bait and switch is illegal in every single state and the District of Columbia.
You'll find the extra battery capacity in the 6th seat.
Originally (2019 prices not adjusted for inflation) only the highest priced model $70K was suggesting a 500 mile range, not the lowest $40K version (250 miles). If you even want to be accurate?
@@MonsterSound what about the exoskeleton, or the 3mm thick panels? Was that in the fine print too?
How about the laser windshield wiper?
Downgraded. There was never a claim of "500 mile range for $39,990".
How ironic that the much-maligned Ford Lightning was used to keep the Cybertruck charged up.
thats what you took from this video? SMH
EV trucks are a joke regardless unless they have a range-extending ICE. The Ramcharger is the only EV truck that makes a modicum of sense for those who tow (which is a huge reason why many of us own trucks).
There are tons of use cases where people move a lot of stuff a short distance. These electric trucks might not be good for a lot of people, but they're fantastic for a lot of other people. A truck can be great without being good for you.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872In what scenario is a $80-100k EV truck useful for moving a lot of things short distances? The bed alone is a joke. It can barely fit a mountain bike. The price is not at all justifiable for simple trips at all. Renting a Uhaul (because most EV trucks are only available in NA) would literally cost you less than 0.001% of the price a CT. Its like $20/day plus gas. Even most people that are buying a truck for the utility and not a pavement princess are not buying the fully loaded top trim, they buy the most stripped down cheapest model. People that buy trucks for the looks don't care about moving things, that's an afterthought
Not really, they could have gotten another Cybertruck to do the same thing.
Tesla be like "WE DIDNT BEAT THE SLOWEST 911 THERE IS WITH OUR CYBERTRUCK TOWING ANOTHER 911"
I do wonder if it is like when the Cybertruck glass broke during the unveiling ceremony. This generated more clicks than if the window had not smashed. Gloomberg had a field day on that one, extrapolating that broken glass on a cybertruck clearly means all EVs will hunt down and then run over unattended children and small animals. In this case 1.1m viewers [so far] who may not have known much about a Cyber truck know it can almost beat a premium sports car while towing a premium sports car - and can thrash it into a cocked hat when one on one.
Just like a few of y'all did with the Tuatara's BS.. You did actual investigative journalism and proved things with facts. and math. Math FTW.
Thank you to everybody for being objective journalists. We need you.
Except not. Tesla did things differently as mentioned at end of video.
@@dirkbester9050 It still means they've been deceptive about it.
I love how the cybertruck on the board is a triangle on wheels 🤣
Tesla should say in its Cybertruck marketing: easy to draw on a diagram.🙂
Looks about right. 😂
The engineering that design cybertruck love triangle .
The little drawing of the cybertruck is spot on.
You mean the triangle?
@@testtor2714 correct
"How lucky am I, it did it in 12.84 seconds"
As Foghorn would say: "That's Mathematics, son! You can argue with me but you can't argue with figures!"
I read that in Foghorn’s voice. Thanks for the laugh.
Nah statistics and bikinis are similar in what they can reveal is enticing, but what they conceal is vital! 😀👍🏻
One is a dream vehicle and the other is a status symbol
@@johnbee7729 IDK which one is which, but the Porsche is definitely the dream one for me. However, my dream car is a Beetle A5 which I already own. It’s basically a Poorsche (Poor man’s Porsche) because it looks like a Porsche 911.
It’s so funny how, on its own, a truck, towing another CAR at under 13 seconds is incredible, ridiculous performance! But the fact that the stunt was meant to show how much better this truck is better to a Porche, undercut the whole performance. And especially when they needed to fudge the numbers as much as they did. Oh well, the CT will still be what it is, an extremely powerful vehicle with gremlins
It’s just a striaghline chill
The truck is an engineering marvel.
The most innovating truck ever made.
Light years ahead.
@@davidhumeston5292 the truck that can't be used for an actual towing or moving things further than closest neighbourhood
Such an innovation, much wow
@@davidhumeston5292light years ahead in braking down faster than any other truck, but thats it.
@@davidhumeston5292 my guy said eNgInEeRiNg mArVeL lmfao🤣🤣🤣
to be fair that fridge was quick
True, but that's about it. They claim it's an end of world vehicle with more capability than anything else but in reality no self respecting truck owner would buy this other than tech punk bro boys
Boiling to frozen in less than 13 seconds.
@@drivewayheroreally..
The truck is worshiped everywhere it goes. Turns out basement dwellers don't get out as much as you think.
@@davidhumeston5292 anyone who worships a truck is a basement dweller. The Cybertruck is a laughing stock amongst normal people who aren't brainwashed by the Tesla cult. The Model S Plaid is the only Tesla worth looking at.
to be fair, that bridge is packed with dual motors, making over 800/1000hp or what ever. and yet, cheapest porsche with third or quarter of that power is faster on quarter mile.
Remember when advertising fraud was something companies could be held accountable for legally?
wrong
Watch to the end
Well there wouldn't be politicians.
@@ericy.2108Did you watch to the end? It's clearly false advertising! 😂
I don’t think this rises to the level of false advertising.
I wouldn't even consider towing a 911 on that trailer even if it was loaded in reverse. I'm glad you survived.
Def a pucker moment for the first run!
if the w/d of the 911 is what's bothering you, then why wouldn't you tow it with the porsche reversed?
@@surewhynot6259 You did not watch the vid: because Tesla did not.
@@mattg432he is saying that that trailer sketches him out, to the point that even if the Porsche was turned around for proper weight distribution, he’s still be nervous about it.
@@EngineeringExplained Did they give you a trailer brake botton?
Absolutely love that you end the video with an unsubstantiated marketing claim about the MotorTrend video. * chef's kiss *👌🤣
Haha, I have now seen it, and can confirm it is indeed worth watching!
You are the GOAT💪
I've been waiting for someone to do the race irl.
Imo it was absolutely necessary that you were a part of it🤙
4 second 0-60 while towing a car is wild
12.8 sec on a 1/4 mile while towing a car is just as impressive. In the FnF quote "it's a 12 second car" , and the Porsche only .32 faster.
If they would have said "we made a 1/4 mile run with the CT against a Porsche and we only lost by .3 seconds....pause (short silence and brabble why are the telling us they lost against Porsche)... while towing a trailer with a Porsche on it", the audience would have freaked out. Then Elon would just need to say his famous words "so there's still room for improvement"
@@mammutMK2but then Jason wouldn’t be able to make a video whining about Tesla being slightly off on a performance marketing prediction. He went from using his Tesla to make videos, to just nit picking and bashing them. It gets old after awhile.
@@routybouty"just nitpicking and bashing them" He made 2 videos about a blatant lie they claimed when they announced the CyberTruck. That's it. And he's not even bashing them! Most of the video is just math and pointing out how and why the claim is wrong...
Man its ugly as hell and cant drive that far though. Beeting a sport car at the drag strip while towing it cool whatever but what about the real world outside rhe drag strip where what if you want to tow the car from arizona to luiziana or somethin
@@routyboutyfound the Tesla soyboy
Well done, excellent video. I'm a retired mechanical engineer and what stood out most clearly for me is how your mind and mine work in the same way! I've spent my life resolving engineering issues and many were resolved using the same techniques and maths as you used. Rock on!
I think if Tesla just told and framed the story in a different way without the deceit, the truck would still be as impressive.
Imagine if they said the Cybertruck could almost match the 911 (Carrera T) in a drag race - then they drop the bomb that the truck was actually towing a 911!
Anyways, great job on the math, Jason!
Impressive effort *virtual clap on the back *
So many opportunities to make this a successful marketing campaign. Yet they chose to lie and math eventually uncovered the truth.
I see a lot of similarities with Apple/Steve Jobs and Tesla/Elon. Both were/are marketing mediocre stuff as the most innovative stuff there is.
Or just claim it beat it in an 1/8th mile race. 1/8th mile drag strips are a thing, and TBH my favorite because driver skill matter a lot more.
@@Miksumr ^ Yup. Very much the same Culty community too. Once you are into teslas, everything else is just "copying Tesla".
Whilst ignoring the fact that Tesla is buying batteries from Chinese manufacturers because they are better(BYD) batteries.
@@Olterior You can't really ignore the fact that before tesla become popular around 10 years ago, no other automaker even tried to make a fully electric car. It's more than likely that eventually someone would've come up with the idea, but the fact of the matter is that tesla's popularity opened their eyes and yes, everyone who's making electric cars since is 100% copying tesla.
Wait, Tesla lied? Oh no.
Anyway
Oh no what’s new.
Elon: "I'm confident, blah blah blah"
Ok, so you're lying 😂
lol did you even watched the full video
@@noizz4 I did. Why? Oh you mean because of the comment time?
“Starting at under 40k”
Mad props man, the first video was amazing but nailing it with an actual experiment is crazy ...
Did you watch the end of the video? Tesla stripped weight off the trailer and had the Porsche closer to the truck and the hitch lower. It does not take much to get to the point of beating the Porsche, it is already so close, by calculation and by this experiment.
@@dirkbester9050So lying is ok?
The Fast and the Furious reference got me!! 😂🤣
Another great video!
someone very wise 😂😂
Is the Cybertruck a 10 second car?
"I almost had you!"
@@snorman1911 You almost had ME?! You never had me! You never had your car!! 😂 CLASSIC!
A Motortrend collab sounds like a car TH-camr's dream, super sick!
There's a 12 year old video on my channel of me trying to work for them; we've come full circle!
This is a great youtube channel. Really the best type of channel. I feel proud that I was here early. Long live Engineering Explained.
Thank youu! And thanks for sticking around - truly what makes it possible! 🙌
If u look for the definition of Over-Hyped u'll see Cybertruck in front of it.
overhyped by whom though? its pretty much all MSM
yes, this video doesn't help the situation@18:54
Elon is just an insecure ass dude. First he hates on every other EV company openly on X. Hates on Instagram and Facebook in order to boost X. Lies all the time about release dates, what teslas will be capable of doing, range estimates, uses rollout for all their claimed "0-60" times, etc.. I wanted to like the guy but he really is a straight up deceiver. The worst part is tesla sheep fans will believe everything he says. I think he does most of this out of insecurities
It’s still pretty impressive. But the haters ignore that.
@@shou635ah yes. A car that literally rusts just by being parked in the Sun is impressive. You're delusional
I've never clicked on an Engineering Explained video so fast😂😂. Here early Because the tesla fan boyz are on their way to make excuse...
😂😂😂
the excuses are in the video already, talking about comment before watching
@@noizz4He's referring to the actual Fanboys themselves commenting. Not what was already represented in the video. Talking about not being able to comprehend while you read...
They were making such excuses yesterday when MT’s video on this dropped.
@@atrain132Thank you....
Wow, with the ford charging the tesla you really thought about every single bit of doubt anyone could have about your test.
You overengineered your proof so much, I'm really impressed.
All the real car guys *knew* this couldn’t be true, as it just felt wrong. You’ve proved it. Excellent work.
"raal car guys" 💀
Real car guys absolutely also want to hit 100 mph in a quarter mile while towing another car. 😅
Elon is a show off, like always!
Still incredibly impressive.
It speaks volumes that you are compelled to be honest and transparent about even something so simple as not having watched their video yet because yours was recorded first. This was super awesome content, excellent mathing and a great experimental result to boot!
This channel makes math and engineering the coolest profession ever! 💪
Gentlemen, join us as we observe the victory of our beloved whiteboard connoisseur over blatant marketing.
That said, you HAVE TO hand it to Tesla engineers, it really blows my mind to see a fkng truck be so quick that it basically keeps up with a car on the drag strip while towing another.
It does not take engineers. Any electrician can build a quickly accelerating vehicle.
@@mikek5298 it's really easier said than done. And I say this as an electrical engineer.
@@moldytexas The only hard part is making it safe. Electric Motors are just that insanely powerful. Anyone who's mind is blown by the Cybertruck hasn't followed the F-150 Lightning or Rivian R1T like... At all.
You know, you could have also made a back of the envelope calculation by taking all of the time that Space Karen lied to the simps, and just extrapolated that it was a lie. Easy.
The only negative from this is that the picture for the 911 does no longer represent a VW Beetle which disappoints.
Maybe Porche's price for providing the cars was that Jason had to draw it properly lol
Haha, I try not to use the same joke twice. Obviously a miss!
can a vw beetle beat a cybertruck towing a vw beetle in a drag race tho?
@@119793”We’re going to need bigger tires.”
Such a good video, Jason doing what he does best. 👏 Jason + MotorTrend is a good combo.
They may have also raced at altitude, which would put the Porsche at a disadvantage.
Our drag strip was higher elevation than the one Tesla tested at (still fairly close to sea level, and since Porsche is turbocharged it's not a huge impact).
Or on Mars
The fact he takes the time to accurately draw a cyber truck is a feat that deserves a shout-out.
Love the video juat wish was a clip showing the full run from start to finish
It's great the MotorTrend put this to bed, but even greater that they collaborated with you on it. I watched both videos, both were great. Excellent all around.
Tesla should hire Jason to get their Math right... before challenging Porsche.
.... In Fact, i would never challenge Porsche without doing my Homework
I mean.. it can totally beat the Porsche without the trailer. It's an effective marketing stunt to claim it can do it even with the trailer. Despite it be not exactly a true statement, it's still pretty close which is crazy.
Porsche is doing it's own home work for over Half a century, it's hard to beat them. And tesla it's just a thing, that does not matter, porsche is creating it's own syntethic zero emission fuel to keep alive the engines and fun on cars... Thanks Porsche!
But that would bruise Elon's ego. I swear if they punted Elon to the boardroom and not involved in production. And just let him count money and build flamethrowers, Tesla would be far better off.
Tesla never cared about facts. They are bad for marketing when selling EV's
@@rustygear447then why didn’t they just drag race the taycan?
Or do a proper race on that famous race track in Germany? Hmmm?
This is the first video being recommended a video from your channel. The algorithm has failed me.
Subscribed! Awesome stuff here, about to go on a deep dive!
Very happy to hear it, welcome, and thanks for subscribing!
Thank you for making these videos. As an Engineering student I love the math with shown results. This confirms that I chosen the right field. It is so cool to see theory vs with corrections.
As a guy who has gone 211mph on an H2... This looked insanely sketchy lmao
Is there a video? Cuz i'd love to see that!
As in the Hummer???
Don't forget about as a guy that crashed his bike into a Porsche
@@justsomepandawithinternet yes!
@@justsomepandawithinternet
Kawasaki H2 bike I assume… that would be crazy in a hummer though! Lol
This continues to be one of my favorite channels on TH-cam. *Huge Shout-out* to everyone that made this happen. Well done!
You pronounced Porsche correctly. Immediately earned a sub. I follow a bunch of Porsche channels and people who claim to be fanatics about the brand can't pronounce it correctly!
Exactly! Almost like they say it wrong on purpose, like it's not a German car or anything. Silly at best.
@@PorscheDad "As a German, I don't care how you pronounce Porsche. If you really wanted to pronounce it completely correctly, you'd also use a hard German R, which is difficult for English speakers to do casually. if we care about pronouncing one right, we also should pronounce all of them correctly dont we? If I started pronouncing brands in the 'correct' way all the time, it would get cringeworthy. Imagine trying a Japanese dialect every time you said Subaru or Mitsubishi! In fact, I like how different languages have their own pronunciations for German brands. It shows how these brands are embraced worldwide. And who realistically keeps track of all the pronunciations in every language?"
porsch-uh
the fast and furious quote made my day 😆
Checked your math for you; looks good. :)
More seriously though, that's good info. For a publicity stunt, not surprised there is some cherry picking. Nice to know the ins and outs.
“Unsubstantiated marketing claims” is the peak comment of the video. Remember the numbers don’t lie.
Remember the numbers: 0-60mph in 2.6 seconds, 1/4 mile in 11 seconds!
well he faked the test. tesla removed weight from the trailer and placed the car further down... he did not. Nobody claimed the trailer has to weigh a certain amount.
The fact that the Tesla is even close is crazy. We should all know it’s a marketing gimmick though, but I’m glad someone actually tested their words. Looking at the fine print should always be done.
the entire run is the gimmick. yes, electric engines has insane capability from start, the question is, how it can keep it up in the long run. when you try to sell a truck by its speed, you already lost.
Why is it all that crazy? Throw enough horsepower at ANY so-called "problem", you're bound to get some sort of interesting result. 🙄
@@993isgawd not just horsepower/kw, but the fact that it produce maximum power from start and lose very little even later. an ice needs to be in the ideal zone to compete. also the electric engine has way better hp/kg than almost any ice, so it is still a great stuff. yes, it has to paid at the weight of the fuel (battery), so a usual, nothing is free, but the raw power statistic is nice.
Kinda? A high end 911 would annihilate it
why is it crazy? we all know how electric motors work, it has nothing to do wtih Tesla?? lol
This one is going to do big numbers.
I hope so! Higher effort than usual haha; and please watch MT's video; they're the MVP here!
Tesla could have saved face if they had just said "1/8 mile" instead of "1/4 mile". I think it's been established that it is *possible* for the CT to beat the 911 in this race in the 1/8 mile.
Even better, they could say 1/16 or 1/32 or 1/64, down to whatever distance where EV torque always beats ICE, just manipulate test inputs for desired output 😂
@@CleanPowerAutoI mean the plaid absolutely DESTROYS in 1/64, 1/32, 1/4th, 1 and 3 miles
Cybertruck vs Porsche
Porsche loses
imagine some other company do something like this against tesla? this is what i'm talking about..
@@izoytElon would roll out lawsuits everywhere.
Fantastic video, alot of work went into this.
Thank you, and it certainly did!
lol, TSLA cherry picked the slowest 911 model, that's the story here
wrong
The Carrera S is the most favorite model but not the slowest.
@@Suctessthis is the Carrera T and officially the slowest.
@@Nisimo6787 I noticed that, too, a bit later. Thanks for the clarification.
Tesla picked the slowest 911, yet it was still faster so they had an the 911 driver drive slower to fake the Cybertruck winning.
Somewhat impressive still, that the wankpanzer can tow things very quickly to a quarter mile.
Not that anyone needs this capability in A TRUCK, but still.
after all these years, this channel still one of the best on youtube. thank you!
cheers from Italy!
Still hate the Cybertruck before and after this video 😊
Why should we care if you hate CyberTruck ? With 2 million on order Tesla will do just fine without your endorsement. Unless you test drive one when you might decide to buy one.
Why the hatred? The fact we are discussing this is great advertising. The Cybertruck isn't for everyone, but nor is the F150. I want a Cybertruck. No interest in F150.
Prepped surface deserves some credit. The Cybertruck on all terrain tires did well.
Come with what you got. Leave with what you get. Ie no crying.
wow wow wow. One of your best videos/tests so far. Great work.
You forgot to shout out to the camera crew, who did a great job setting up all the cameras and drones.
Imagine “cooking the books” so much and still not beating the 911
We all have to wonder how much they cook their financials.
@@gloofisearchdo we?
Jason is going to get that Wes guy fired when Elon sees this on twitter
Love that you used isosceles triangles for the Cyber truck. Now They Might be Giants is stuck in my head. Thanks for that.
i love the way you draw the cybertruck. a straight up isoceles triangle
Waiting for this.
Absolutely.
what've you done with batman?
@@billynomates920 🧐...Me?
I'm more interested in seeing if this Cyber Truck can beat a regular truck in all the things people buy trucks for.
obviously not lol
it's made to look weird and be fast in a straight line, ignoring everything else
If it could, I'm sure Tesla would have shown us in their usual braggadocious, cherrypicked and exaggerated way!
But, for some mysterious reason, they chose to distract us with this ridiculous test instead... 😂
Roughly one in five regular trucks is bought to carry a load. Possibly fewer. Same with offroad vehicles, very few of which have ever been off the pavement.
I can’t believe I didn’t see this earlier. One of my favorite videos/video series on TH-cam of all time
''I got lucky" you're too humble lol you killed it
This whole video has nothing to do with the Cybertruck or Porsche drag race time, it is just him flexing his math skills and he is absolutely right to do so
Interesting video.
Great video, probably better marketing for the Cyber truck then the original video...well done.
i like how acurate your cybertruck drawing is on the whiteboard. i think thats all that needs do be said tbh
Love the fact that Tesla basically tried to clown Jason which resulted in this proof. The biggest mistake highly intelligent people make is forgetting they aren't the only ones. Also that Wes guy is probably going to be fired for sharing that information with you.
You think the CyberUrinal was designed by highly intelligent people?