Lindell Audio LiN76 Compressor Shootout w/ Mike Watts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ส.ค. 2022
- How does the LiN 76 Limiting Amplifier Compressor, a dynamic vintage compressor on a budget, stack up against the best of the best? Well, Mike Watts of VUDU Studios decided to find out!
In this video, Mike and his team at VUDU Studios compared the LiN 76 with some of the most heralded Compressors in the music industry:
- Universal Audio UREI 1176LN Peak Limiter
- Klark Teknik 76-KT Limiting Amplifier
- Warm Audio WA76 Limiting Amplifier
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This video was the deciding factor that made me go with the Lin76 which Ive paired with a Heritage Audio 1073 Clone with Eq. These units together put out an incredible sound!!!
Thanks, appreciate you!
The Lindell 76 to me sounds like it has a little more bottom end than the original UREI but sounds great and I don't mind that at a lower price point because it means I can afford more of them!
With an MSRP of $399... I am pretty impressed with the Lindell!
Thank you for mentioning that all gear may be calibrated differently. I've seen way too many comparisons where people are turning the knobs to the exact same positions and making their judgements solely on that instead of using their ears to compare the quality.
Spot on for what my assessment was listening through my studio monitors. I will definitely be checking out the Lindell and most likely adding it to the arsenal.
Kudos to Lindell Audio! Great product demonstration it sounds amazing. Well done Mike.✌🏽
Thanks Warren !
I wish mine would have arrived without the big knobs being stripped. Smh. Not a great start with me and the Lindell Audio brand.
Completely agree with you Mike, warm a bit „too much“, Klark losing body and Quality, Lindell pretty much hitting the nail on the head
I have my Lindell LN76 chained behind an Art Tube MP and behind that I have chained one channel of an Art Pro VLA 2. This gives me vocals that are undeniably stellar.
I agree ! the Art VLA 2was a shock to me after listening to many high end comps years ago. We had an ART to "get us by " in a film pre-prod studio and we ended up using all the recordingd in the final mix. Soooo nice for tracking when you're going to smash it anyway later or not
Thanks for helping me completing my chain
UREI sounds amazing, so well balanced on every source (none of the others came close on bass IMO, they distorted the low end too much). The Lindell sounded great overall, and the KT was very decent as well. Not a big fan of the WARM 76. Great video, great demo!
Thanks Kevin!
Added it to my collection and I'm loving it!!
Hey thanks! Glad to have you!
The lindell sounds pretty good gotta admit it has a sound to it that is just really charming. Adding a little more to the top in. The warms have always been decent but never got into the klarks had a pair but sent em back it never sounded like they were doing much on my drum bus.
just what I needed for vocals thanx for the shootout loving my lin76
Thanks for watching!
I received another unit after the first one I received came with the knobs stripped, and once I hooked it up and got going the sound was beautiful. I'm loving my Lindell LN76.
What happened to your little labs compressor you talk about all the time? Isn't the Lindell a "cheapy" compressor?
Awesome review. For me, there was not much in it, which lends well to my budget, maybe the lindell is the middle ground between kt and warm, and budget also.
Thanks Mike. Urei's saturation sounds great
the major difference I hear, especially on the guitars, is that each unit has a different high mid/high frequency resonance/notch, but not sure if that is an overall volume mismatch or something inherent in the units.
thanks for the video! very fun exercise
Definitely feel like the Lindell is most accurate eq wise and how the compression is reacting.
One big difference I heard is with the non smashed drums and the bass, the bottom end is much more round and a bit more pleasant to my ear on the urei.
I did actually feel like the klark did the round low end better but also a bit darker all around.
Not a huge fan of the warm but for the price compared to the urei none of them had a cheap or unpleasant sound.
I’m lucky to have access to a vintage urei but will definitely be picking up a lin76 because at that price, why not have some extra 1176 style channels.
All 4 Are Great Options!
I've come to the conclusion that I don't hear enough guitars in my life.. Lin76 stood up well and as a musician on a budget, the price is right!
Thank you for taking the time to do this comparison. Really appreciate it. The Lindell is sounding very good. I have the warm audio and it has served me well. On a side note, I am sorry to be "that guy" but the bass guitar was out of tune and it was driving me crazy. LOL. Warm was my fav on guitar, Lindell was my fav on drums and bass. The KT sounded shrill and clinical to me. I owed the KT unit for a few months and sold it. I would say "there isn't a noticeable difference between the warm audio and the real UREI". But this comparison definitely shows that the UREI is noticeably better than the three clones. To me its not worth the $ difference, but there is an audible difference to my ear. On the vocal the warm was my fav. The singer has a nasal quality that was emphasized to a point where it sounded unpleasant to me. I didn't like with some of the compressors.
Thanks for watching and for your thoughtful feedback!
What where the attack and release settings on vocals for the Lindell 76?
IMO if a person complains about the sound of the klark teknik, warm audio or even the lindell over the UA1176 then they are gear snobs that are just plain aggrevating and ruins it for everyone else. the warm audio, KT and Lindell are designed to give the user a close as possible experience without going broke, I don't see how any one can complain about the clones that can give the user a really good sound without spending 1000s of dollars to do it. I own 2 KT units and will be investing in 2 of the lindell units. I have a ton of plugins. if the UAs were cheaper I would buy them but the clones are really close and no listener that knows nothing about music recording or studio gear will ever know or even care about the gear
Brand snobbery is rampant in the pro audio community. Back in the 90s when I started studios all had unique gear they liked and the price or brand didn’t matter. Today it’s the opposite with everyone hating anything budget and only praising the most expensive.
Yeah.......Timp P 76.....or AA Silver.... will give you at least 90% of that same snap and analog sound to make it not worth it, spending an outrageous amount of money on those units
Funny thing is (to my ears anyway) When I only owned the original Urei 1176 I was so excited to buy a new UA 1176 so I could have 2....(again, to my ears) the UA reissue sounded pretty bad, dull, no life, soo... I sent it back..all of these clones sound better to me.
UAD....there really falling off....best 76.....for its price....Acustica Audio
Silver.....ART Trans y..or Black Rooster VLAFET....PSP FET....or PA Purple...
Acustica audio Silver? Or do u mean Nickel?
Amazing. Do you have any distributors outside of NA? I'd love to get a pair of this unit, but you don't seem to have a distributor in Korea.
Nice video and nice comparison. Thanks for doing it.
BTW: Your studio in LI is right next store to my location. I am at the start of the Jersey Shore...
Phil
Thanks !!
@@vudustudios Thanks for the reply...
Phil
NYC Area
UREI have a perfect cube compression with solid definition and timbre ... Lindell have a more like a piramidal shape with clear definition and timbre just not so dense ... Klak Teknik is just a little brick shape, you get just the top flavor ... Warm Audio have also a Piramidal shape tendency but with a lack of definition and a edgy timbre ... In the budget area I definitely choose the Lindell
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So which have the most noise? Which ones have a metal chassis? I am in an electrically noisy area.
Klark and Lindell sounded good. The Warm added a little hair and harshness.
Thanks for listening!
I bet you could just back off a bit on the Warm and it would sound similar. Just a guess. FWIW I have the KT and Lindell. Like them both.
UREI is amazing sounding but since that's not an option I think the only choice is between the KT or the Lindell, they are that close to each other.
I'm surprised the engineer noted the KT losing clarity on the sybillant vocal what I heard was a cleaner clamping on the sybillant part of the vocal, he's there I'm not but based on the demonstration samples, the KT and Lindell are very very close. The Warm did nothing for me at all, sounded cheap.
I'm using Neumann NDH 30 headphones and Senn HD650's.
YMMV
would be amazing to hear a null test
The problem with budget clone gear it's not going to hold up well compared to a real 1176. Usually the quality of components hense the price aren't in the same league. I think BLA does a nice job selecting top shelf components at a reasonable price that seems to better made than Warm Audio and many others that utilizes a lot of cheap Chinese parts, esp PCB components.
100 percent aggree!
Then buy 10 of them for less than the price of the Urei. Lol
Have you had the opportunity to listen to the Revive Audio modded versions of the Lin76 or the Lin2a? I’m pretty curious how they sound after the circuits are replaced along with the optical sensor.
If the Lin76 is really that close to the original sound, the mods may be a waste, but perhaps the Lin2a mods could make it into a pretty impressive unit.
Can you let me know what test tone you used for the KT-76. I think my unit is not right. What GR should i expect to see with a -18dbRMS 1K sine wave with the controls at default (In 10 oclock, Out 2 o clock, Slowest attack, fastest release and 4:1 ratio)?
That is not how you do it. You need to take the compression off and then calibrate with the level recommended by the manufacturer. My UREI 1178 which is a stereo 1176 calibrates to 0 VU with a -16 test tone at 1K. If Klark Teknik doesn’t have the calibration posted you should set the output to 24 with NO compression so take all the buttons out, and then ramp the input up with a -18dbfs 1K test tone until you reach unity gain of 0 VU on the output. Not all hardware works the same even if they are clones of something else. I have 3 LA-2 clones and all of them react differently based on the input gain. So in all honesty the best way to learn how to make hardware sound it’s best is to use it until you are familiar with it. Hope this helps you out.
@@joesalyers yes, what he said
Do you ship to the Netherlands? Would love to add one next to my Warm 1176
Yes! Check out Hyperactive: www.hyperactive.nl/product-categorie/lindell/
So when you do parallel drum mixes do you go mono in the parallel bus? What drawbacks does that have over stereo? I use a Drawmer 1978 for my bus right now in stereo, but just picked up a Lindell 76 and really like it. Was just curious how YOU do it. Thanks again!
Hey, uh, no I don’t do mono parallel compression..like most I do stereo. For this vid I only had one of each soo…mono is what we got!! That Drawmer 1978 is awesome! Have used it before.
@@vudustudios lol. I was thinking, “Am I missing out on some wizardry by not going mono on parallel?” Haha
Have a great weekend.
You _could_ simply create a mono bus in your DAW... and listen to what happens 💡
Hello! What transformers are used in this compressor? All I read is "American made" transformers. Are these Cinemag? Other? Thanks.
Cinemag
Sounds to me like the klark teknik has a slower attack and faster release compared to the others or at least doesn't have the same control as the others. The lindell sounds a bit boosted in the low end and a bit darker in the highs compared to the urei. perhaps a bit muddier. I dunno but maybe i like the warm audio better out of those 3. but i dunno. if i had to chose between warm and lindell it would definitely be a tough choice for me. A friend of mine has the warm audio one. so i kind of want a different one in case they end up in the same place at some point.
I have a warm and a klark in my stuio rn, the attack and release times are quite different indeed.
I have a problem keeping calibration at 0. It will drift forward. The knob to adjust it on the back is hypersensitive as well. It really turned out to be a bummer of a purchase.
First of all thanks for revie, now in your opinion for voice tracking paired with tube preamp ( wich have enough color ) wich one should i choose beetwen warm, KT, and Lindell ton control peak and sit in mix ?
We recommend the Lindell. :)
@@officiallindellaudio5879 lol of course you do.
that low end is totally gone when you use the kt,the warm and the lindell. Only the urei keeps that THUMP. its quite obvious!
the UREI definitely sounds better - has a lot more character overall
Do you record with Compression and Eq ?
yes i do
You got it wrong regarding the BLA Bluey - the attack knob is indeed opposite to a classic 76 design and goes fast to slow clockwise, but the release knob is actually correct to an 1176 going slow to fast when turning clockwise... unless you meant they are opposite to each other! It's so weird they are both different and didn't chose to just either have them both in the classic configuration, or change them both to be backwards, but the same 🙃
It's because CLAs Bluey the attack knob is backwards and it's a literal direct clone of his quirky/faulty awesome sounding unit.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist yeah I know - and I actually really like that it’s not a straight Rev A clone, that it has all these mods and things that have been changed to it over the years… but it still seems kind of stupid they decided to do that with the attack and release and not just make them both the same in the correct config. They also don’t mention anywhere in the manual how they are set up. It’s easy enough to hear it by ear but I know a lot of other Bluey owners that have been slipped up by this. Oh well, great units other than that!
@@DRUMVILLE it is a bit strange if it's not in the manual 🤷🏾♂️
No stereo link?
Seems strange that you don’t directly compare the Lindell to the Urei, it’s kinda the point of the video and you went from the urei to the warm each time? Well, I ordered a couple anyways. We’ll see
let me know how you like em
I'm tempted
I really wasn't asked to compare the Lindell to the Urie, I just happened to have one and I thought it would be cool to let people hear what the real thing does compared to all the clones.. I was asked to compare Lindell to KT and Warm.
Personally I think the Klark sounds a little punchier than the warm or lindell. The lindell seems to have a bit of a bass boost. Not sure If I like that or not. The original sounds perfect.
I purchased one of these units based on the positive reviews and a video recommendation. However, I was thoroughly disappointed with the product. My unit exhibited significant noise issues, rendering it practically unusable beyond the 9 o'clock position on the output knob, resulting in a noticeable and distracting hum. Furthermore, it intermittently produced a noise reminiscent of RF interference.
In an effort to resolve the problem, I returned the unit to my local dealer and even traveled to their store to test other brand-new units. Unfortunately, every unit I tried exhibited the same background noise problem. This level of noise was unacceptable for a product marketed as a "professional audio-grade compressor."
I actually liked the warm audio over lindell audio, the klark technik and lindell seems to be slower, but the the urei really is the best sounding one.
Honestly, they are all good and get the job done.
Man if only Lindell went with the normal color scheme instead of the greenish blue and white thing, it just doesn't have that it factor in appearance like the other. I know that shouldn't matter but unfortunately it does.
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The differences between all of them is so subtle as to be irrelevent. I would therefore go for the cheapest.
no so much difference, klark teknik surprise
Again don't tell me it just mentions Designed in Sweden ... So Lin76 Made in China ? Oh my god don't tell me
Somewhere in Asia, of course. To sell for $400 list it cant cost more than half that to R&D+build+ship each unit.
The cost of 1 unit's material is probably well under $100, when built in batches of 1000s.
The worst is Warm audio the best is UREI, 2nd place is Klark, 3rd place lindell.
I’m gonna guess that you own a KT 😂
Agreed, nothing comes close to the UREI
@@chrisdover8507 No I haven't. I just have an opinion.) Just a pair of ears and opinion. Is it enough?)
@@chrisdover8507 whats wrong with the klark tekniks? unless you want to mail me your UA1176s
@@marksmusicplace3627 I actually think the KT’s are ok. Before behringer bought them out, KT had a good reputation for decent clones, now people just diss them which isn’t cool imo.
Your levels are all over the place, the voice at times is 3x louder than the audio I actually am supposed to be listening to.
This is a mess, not a shootout ....better luck next time.
This does not match my experience with the Lin76 at all. Mike, how about I bring my units over and we compare?
4:12 Thank me later