WHAT BIKE IS THE BETTER BUY?! *Cannondale LAB71 vs. Tarmac SL8*
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0:00 weight of both bikes
0:38 intro of video
1:31 cannondale lab71 in depth details
3:49 Tarmac sworks sl8 in depth details
5:59 why the big weight difference between bikes?
10:26 what bike is priced better??? (better price point?)
15:14 What bike has better performance??
17:00 what bike is more comfortable??
18:05 if you had to pick one bike, what would it be??
20:08 freehub tests of both bikes - กีฬา
Big shout out to Roland for coming by the store and having some fun with the interview, it is awesome to here riders who own both bikes and had to pay money out of there product give full unbiased reviews on the bikes..... and these two bikes for every average day rider I would only dream of owning, So again Big shout out to Roland and Thank you for the fun video..
Here is his instagram account right here if you want to check it out and drop him a follow instagram.com/miles_and_motions/
Sorry. Does Roland own both bikes? Does he have any affiliation with the store or either brand? Thanks. I like the SL8, but I don't like the white on the rims.
Great meeting you finally and glad we were able to do this. Now we need to link up for some miles.
@@royanderson3478I do and no affiliation to anything.
@@royanderson3478 like in the video I said, he bought both bikes with his own money, from another store about an hour away, I never sold him anything, this was my first time meeting him in person and he was nice enough to drive to the shop with both bikes and do this video
The Lab71 looks really sharp.
I'm skeptical if anybody can "feel" a bike holding speed over and above another one when their performance is so similar in the first place. Ditto for a bike's ability to accelerate in the same context. Sounds an awful lot like the marketing speak magazines love to use. But I believe he believes it. Also, thanks for the awesome video!
My theory is that they are mistaking other things for speed. Like maybe comfort or different tires.
when it is very flat here and you are in a group rides all the time and riding same roads and have you have no mountains going up or down, all you feel is how the bike maintains speed..... you g et a very good sense to how one bike compared to other bikes hold speed down here, no lie, aero bikes down here are crucial in the group rides, and when you have a good aero bike in a group you feel that effortless cadence effect where you are just spinning your legs and maintaing speed, where if you have a round tube bike or a climbing bike you can feel the more resistance it takes to hold or maintain that speed, I ride the same road same direction and same group rides for over 10 years, you get a good idea of how some bikes compare to to others. I know it sounds very bullshitty but ask any florida riders down south some of the miami blazer guys or whoever you want to reach out to who you think is a credible source for this.
@@GCPerformance18 You want speed on the flats you want deep wheels. Those framesets are a wash for an aero standpoint. Also what is his body position on each bike? Slight differnces matter for both aero and power. And you have different tires at different pressures. What are road surfaces like? Could a rider feel a difference? For sure. But what makes the difference?
I used to be very skeptical as well, but switching from a Giant contend to a propel, which having an aero frameset and deep section wheel, at the same route i ride very often, the different is very very huge, but major contribution should be my position > wheel > frameset. But yeah, propel is a way "faster" bike in the comparison.
Its pure bullshit
That Momo design integrated handlebar is a beaut
it really is, something different and very sleek looking, they did a nice colab with cannondale for it
Being a Lab71 rider and having the ability to ride the nicest bikes in the industry, I gotta say Specialized stepped it up with their SL8. Very similar to a Teammachine SLR01, it definitely handles much better than the sl7 but the nano resin and carbon layout on the Lab71 is definitely my weapon of choice
Do you feel the nano resin and carbon layout? Genuine question.
@@l.d.t.6327 Marketing has a very strong effect on this guy.
And the Supersix is more aero, tested by Tour Mag. SL8 is only 1watts faster then SL7.
they are saying the sl8 is faster then there venge, I dont think that the lab71 is more aero, we need someone with unbiased and a ncie wind tunnel to go into these studios and run tests with it
@@GCPerformance18 Tour Mag tested both, their protocol is widely regarded as not biased, and they do it for 10+ years on many frames. 207W for the Supersix Evo Lab71 and 209W for SL8. SL7 did 210 watts. Proper Aero frames do 202-204watts, like Systemsix, Venge, Aeroad, etc. Supersix Evo even looks more aero, in the back part, where the SL8 has zero aero tubing.
What a treat to be able to see both of these bikes side by side in the same video. Well done GC! Your next mission if you choose to accept should be to track down BMC's new Teammachine R! Apparently, it's an Aero bike BMC doesn't want to call an Aero bike.
Its like Singapore over there. Everywhere u look is a tour level bicycle.
llmao I know, thats why in some of my early videos when I use to do 8000, or 9000 dollar sworks bikes I would be like good deal because these bikes are bought almost everyday, very fortunate for this but also there is so much competition around here
Spesh should do something about the gap between the headtube and the first proprietary spacer. Next to that they should make the spacers a bit longer so it matches/follows the line/flow of the head tube bulge. The thing not really clean looking on the SS Evo is the gap between seat tube and back wheel. But hey both bikes are winners.
Wow. Two amazing bikes. So nice to hear from an average Joe and their opinions. Keep up the great work.
thanks so much, I felt he has a very good input on the two bikes and came from someone unbiased who bought both products
It was nice to hear from someone who has a true account of what both bikes ride like. I have had to move to indoor training now. Getting too cold and wet and soon enough snow will fly here in Canada. I cannot wait for the next video.@@GCPerformance18
Lab71 looks soo good.
In reality I’d probably go for a Evo HiMod…
Cannondale Supersix Evo Actual max supported tire width is 700c x 34mm (measured) as specified in the Cannondale website. Just look at the Owner's manual documentation on page 8.
Lab 71 looks soooo sick. Just for putn around and lookn cool, im pickn the super6
I just brought the new trek madone SLR gen7 in matte black..it rides alot smoother and more comfortable than my 2022 s-works tarmac sl7..the madone also holds speed better than the Tarmac..i don't care for bontrager aeolus rsl wheels so i carried over my roval rapide clx wheels to the madone..lol..im running TPU inner tubes and brown GP5000 continentals and i got the weight down to around 16 pounds which is perfect for me..im no weight weenie so anything under 18lbs is ok to me...😅
My Supersix Evo at 15 pounds feels amazing compared to my 18 pound CAAD10. To me, the weight is noticeable in out of the saddle efforts and flicking the bike cornering around obstacles and the like. So much more responsive
Yep, I'd go Madone now too since they refuse to bring the Venge back, and absolutely don't believe the hype about thr SL8 being more aero, nope
Interesting review thanks for that. I personally like the Cannondales design a bit better but I guess the Spezialized quality might be better ?! Both are for people with too much money in the pocket. I wish I would live close to you so you could review a SEKA EXCEED with Shimano 105 Di2 and LUN Hypers 38. Weighs at 7.5 kg with pedal and bottle cages. For under $5000
Absolutely Love my LAB71 for climbing 🫶🏻
- DA 12 speed
- Zipp 454nsw
- Favero duo power meter
- 28c gp5000 str
Total weight : 7.3kg with bottle cages, garmin mount, pedals 😁
Absolute beast on climbs and flats 🫶🏻
sounds like amachine
Great comparison Grant. Thoughts: 7.2kg for SLR8 with all bit - wow that heavy. Q: with their unpainted frame - unless you can ride that without trashing it, what’s the point of giving a weight? May as well quote a weight with only one chain stay.
Lab 71 - again really heavy…. And it’s not just the wheels. Put proper climbing wheels on and we are still not a 6.8kg
Looks - Lab 71 frame is far cooler and distinctive. Too tube and dropped seat stays are neat.
so they make a frame called ready to paint and it is sold as that option it is there lightest version of the bike they make but also gives the consumer the option to paint it without voiding there warranty, which is really cool, its like the tarmac sl6 ultralight they use to do back in the day, it is the same thing, this is just a raw version of the frame that is ultra lightweight
@@GCPerformance18 that’s really a cool idea. It’d be nice to see some outcomes of inventive frame design.
Another awesome video....
Yeah, good job GC 👍🏼
Glad you enjoyed it I had fun making this one, it was cool having th eguy there
I always have a thing for Specialized bikes great bike and reliable everything just works I have the sl7 and can’t say enough goods about it👍👍👍
I always stand by specialized they do good things
As much as I love the shape and the carbon weave on the momo bars, I wouldn't want to have to look at that momo designs logo every time I rode 😂
I think its one of those designs, thats like winspace, at first I loved the different weave but after seeing it for so so long, I kind fo got tired of it lol
4:48 - Just check the headset spacer on the S-Works, there seems to be a gap between the frame and the spacer and you can see the yellow backdrop come through.
The gap could be smaller, but you do not expect a zero-gap fitment. That'll be basically rubbing the frame.
yea it never had zero gap there, but this one seems higher then normal, but I did not build this bike
There is a warning when building the sl8 about this and the spacing that you use it's likely they cut the wrong proportion I think you need to keep 10mm below somewhere (possibly above the stem) I know you need to cut below there but not sure if this would cause that. It likely could but perhaps it was something else mentioned as well.
That's a huge gap though the bike is basically trash now I would just put it in the ocean and let it rust!
jesus the Lab71 looks amazing
its a beauty bike
That Lab71 is a beauty 😍
its a cool looking bike
Great video! If you can, try and get a Giant Propel.
I alwyas look for that bike for some reason they do not have them in store anywhere
@@GCPerformance18 Not even at Hillsboro Bicycle Center or Cycling Forza ?
That dumpster has a sick paintjob.
lol I knew someone would say something
Excellent idea to interview normal riders like everyone out there.
yea I think it was a god opportunity, not al thge time does someone has two of the most desirable bikes almost identical builds to be able to give us a nice comparison
Yeah normal riders like everyone out there have 2 $10k bikes in their stash
Hey GC always watch your videos!!! 🤘🏻 does a Syncros Creston iC SL X - Bar/Stem fit into a Sworks tarmac frame??? Thanks
Depends on the model and you might have to get a 3d printed spacer made from one of these companies
Interesting that Roland's subjective impressions are pretty much the opposite of how Tour magazine's testing characterized the relative strengths and weaknesses of these two bikes. They found the Tarmac to be stiffer (so presumably quicker off the line), while the SSE was more aero (so presumably would hold speed better). Sounds like these are two of the best (and maybe the two very best) all-around race bikes on the market, however, and most folks would be very pleased with either.
yea, this is the tough thing about bikes, because at the end of the day it is all off of feel, it is not like a car engine where we know the numbers and hoiw much horsepower they got and torque and we can all feel the same performance, here this is all preference to whoever is giving there opinion, sometimes the person telling you this information could have off days on the bike, or they could have really great days on the bike, but i hear a lot of people say what he said about the sl8 at least donw here in the flatr state
Could also be fitness I haven’t had the bike overlapping time frames for long. And I’m fitter now than when I was only riding the Lab. It really is 1A 1B situation. Splitting hairs
Awesome freakin review!!!!
Thank you kindly! I appreciate it alot
Actually the baby blue bike on the rack is the better buy… low maintenance, comfortable, rim brakes, and mechanical shifting… 😂… very clean….🍻
hahahaha its in for a major clean lol
@@GCPerformance18 lol
After using s works it’s a dream for me
Specialized 🏁🔥 Parcontre c’est bizarre mon Tarmac sworks sl7 en taille 58 équipé comme ce sl8 pèse 7.20 sur la même balance. La différence les porte bidon le combo ,les pedale (assioma duo pour moi) et le dura ace en 50/34.
At least in Portugal, Cannondale is way more expensive than the Canyon Aeroroad, the Cannondale Super six Hi Mod with ultegra di2 is more expensive than the Canyon CFR with either Dura Ace or Red shifting system
I can buy the Canyon Aeroad with Red and the Canyon Grail SLX with Force, for less than the Lab 71. I think it's a MTB bike away from being the perfect bike garage > Canyon Lux World Cup CF 7. For a total of 8500 + 4750 + 3600 = 16850€ - Lab71 price in Portugal with Red 14999€
Fun video.
thanks so much chase!!!
Considering Lab 71 too
they are a ncie bike but sl8 al day
I climb 200 feet just to get out of my neighborhood. A 40 mile ride is 3000 if I go out of my way to find a "flat" route. I'm in central CT.....I love my 14lb SL6, but I still have a Black Inc Evo for climbing days. I have ridden some new all rounders, SL7, the outgoing Evo, and I hate the lack of the snappy feel that this customer referred to on the SL8.....
Can you share what saddle clamps he used to run the power saddle on the Lab71? The rails on the power saddle are oval shaped vs the round ones that come on the lab71. I’m going to put a power saddle on my Lab71 so appreciate any input.
they should come with 2 sets of clamps, contact your cannondale dealer
If you set both bike on the same per of wheels/tyres you will not feel any different is down to preference which one look better for you ,I will go for Lab71 but with different color black bikes make me sick specially for the price out of this world :)
Forever bike....for right now....
Famous last words.
hahahaha
15k bike with 50 cent plastic bottle cages. 😂
Interestingly, in Singapore, the frameset retail price for Supersix Evo Lab71 is S$5325 (US$3878.73) and S-Works Tarmac SL8 is S$8500 (US$6191.40)
That is crazy. Over here it is $6000 maybe cannondale is more American brand
@@GCPerformance18 Yeah that is weird, basically Singapore has pretty low (probably lowest) price for lab71, compared to any other region as far as I know. Considering the price, lab71 will definitely be my choice. However, it takes months of waiting to get a lab71 frame while only several days for a sl8 frame.
Lol I saw it on the red build on IG too, but what's wrong with speci's cap? The gap with the frame is way too big here as well... Is it due to installation? Some seem better than others.
Glad I'm not the only one noticing it.
That was built from another store, but obviously that top cap is never going to sit flush because it will rub on the top tube. But there’s a little black piece that sits inside the bearing and raises it alittle for clearance
@@GCPerformance18 thanks man, absolutely I wasn't pointing at you, as I'm quite interested in the bike I was wondering whether during the installation phase there's a way to make it sit closer to the frame without rubbing. Some caps like this one it seems really do seem to leave a large gap, which is quite ugly to see.
Great job and cool video as usual.
Both beautiful bikes, love the momo handlebar system and wheels on the Cannondale, hate the bullnose front of the SL8 head tube - overall I think I’d have the Cannondale rather than the SL8
When you shoot the two of them side by side, the stand out difference is just how ‘narrow’ the SL8 looks in comparison. Does that come across in real life, or is it just on camera?
Probably wide angle, live they don't look this fragile, but a bit more beefier. Both look better in person
the lab71 has a way skinnier seatpost compared to the sl8 I would say the lab 71 is more narrow of a bike
Both brilliant bikes.
But if I were gonna spend that much on a bike I´d rather go with something more special.
Like a custom Officine Battaglin, Sarto, Passoni or similar.
They might not be as fast, but they will be fast enough.
And then you get a frame that is especially made for you instead of having to adapt a stock bike to your geometry.
About Sarto - watch Hambini. 8000 $ frame is crap.
@@rolffuchs2737 Must have been unlucky then.
And that can happen with any brand.
I used to work in a bikeshop and have put together a few and never had any problems with them.
@rolffuchs2737 hambini makes money by bashing products. If you think he is giving you an honest opinion on anything, then you are as naive as someone believing everything a bike company tells you about their bike.
would you please add the V4RS to this comparison? Thanks.
I love the v4rs bike they are so nice
Over the years I always wanted to build a sworks but there never in stock, so I always built something else, could you explain why specialized doesn’t make enough bikes for demand?
yea it makes no sense there is such demand for it
@@GCPerformance18 I thought may be specialized was just shipping to all bike shops to support them, but not so , in Colorado three shops I talked to got limited amounts 🤔
I love S work
metoo
BMC Teammachine R has entered the chat.
I’m working to get one of those
There both Very nice bikes, i am happy with my daily TREK 6000 MTB 👍 Au
very nice
Sorry my friend make a test between madone slr and tarmac sl8 and the madone was faster on the flat and on the hills , so , the tarmac it's a aero bike ?
I doubt it. I think I know what video you are talking about
@@GCPerformance18 it's on The Bicycle Station
Built my Lab71 for around $11k. Crazy how much bike companies charge for full bikes now. I like my build better than the stock as well because it's much better fit with narrow handlebar and lighter weight
Frame $6050
Full Dura ace + Crankset $3150
Wheels (Farsports Carbon Spoke 55mm RD270) $990
Tires Conti GP5000 $140
Handlebar EXS Aerover $450
Saddle Alpitude Gardena $250
I also have Favero Assiomas but not including in price to make it apples to apples with stock bike.
What did yours weigh?
@@justinmiller70836.67 with tpu tubes and gp5000s. 6.82 with tubeless setup and tubeless gp5000s. That’s with 30 grams extra from air tag. Weight includes pedals, bottle cages (not stock) and computer mount. About to lose 90 more grams though cause I’m switching to 4iiii dual sided (which has its own apple find my feature) and duraace pedals.
Team Cannondale 😊
team spesh
So 500 grams difference, with mostly the same components? I wonder how heavy those momo bars are. I know EF ride vision metron and they are not exactly lightweight either 😅
60g I remember the weight difference on bars
Hey GC, please do a review like this if you can get your hand on the new bmc teammachine R after release, its a bike that fulfilled all my fantasy about how a racing aero bike should looks like. It 100% my next bike
bro I love that bike that is my fave bike right now too, I am working very hard to find one to see in person but also if I have th eluxury of knowing someone who puts down miles and has a good feeling for bieks I will ask his opionn of the bike
What is that gap under the spacers on the SL-8?
that is normal on there
But I dont get it why the sl8 is at that weight. All the Build ups i saw weight in at 6.8, 6,9 also with powermeter and Sizes Like 54 and 56.
Ck hubs sounds is just so different.. i would go with a lab. Seeing sl8 so much on the streets it’s just not as appealing. Just my opinion tho
Just in looks the cannondale wins
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
why not test them with the same wheelset? missed opportunity! just the tires alone make a big difference
There will always be something that you can say they should have done. This is just his overall feeling of the bike. He’s not a TH-camr or looking for the data. I just asked him to speak on his overall feeling of it. The wheels are very similar depths. But this was just a preference feel. Other people will have other feelings
@@GCPerformance18 First of all, thanks for the content, and it's for sure interesting to hear his opinion! True, it's never going to be perfect, nevertheless, the wheels + tires do have a significant impact and it would have been an easy swap.
@@3TXRthat is something I want to do for myself and do plan on getting to that. Just haven’t yet. But I am curious of that very point.
@@Miles_and_Motions Nice, please keep us updated, maybe in a follow up video? Thank you!
I believe Cannondales have an asymmetrical dish, so that’s one reason it’s hard to swap wheels between these two bikes.
this shocks me, why is the sl8 so heavy? i have ordered one for myself because i want to get sub 7kg with pedals, mounts and garmin. currently i have the wilier zero slr with ultegra 12s (except cassette is dura ace) and it weights 6.98kg with 45mm deep custom carbon wheels and tubeless gp5000 strs. pls tell me there is a reason for this sl8 beeing that heavy in a 52.
Don’t get deep dish wheels. Do tpu tubes and lighter Tyres. Should get you there. Those wheels are 1520 grams. Seat is also about 50 grams heavier than non 3-d one. Also I have older rotors on there as I am waiting for newer ones to come in. Additional weight there.
gloss paint, it is heavier I have seen some claims on the projext black to weigh i around 770 grams compared to the 680 grams they claim..... I have done some builds with cages and pedals coming in around 6.8 kilo ready to paint
@@GCPerformance18 i have everything rdy only waiting for the frame, im so stocked!
In italy a supersix evo with ultegra di2 is 6,799 euros :(
That's a lucky bike owner! Beautiful bikes but those bottle cages on the cannondale are hideous
yea they should be like a custom momo carbon cages or something
Why is this lab71 heavier than the HM with ultegra review you did?
Pedals + cages?
deeper wheels, gloss paint, cages pedals, power meter
I own a slr Domane (race geometry) which is very comfy, I also own a custom built Cannondale caad13 with the carbon seatpost and its also very comfy, not far off of the Domane. So I'd go with the LAB71 on this one.
Hello: What torque wrench could you recommend for at home use, in the lower Nm range ? Is park tools 5.2 good one ?If not what others do you recommend ?
Spec. has Carbon-ti ;)
Hah had to come back and comment. Looks like Roland put his money where his mouth is! His Lab71 is for sale on ebay. Kinda wish I saw that before buying a brand new one as it's the color and size I bought.
Yea man, he scooped up an sworks venge as well. He loves the whatsapp
"Regular bloke" with 30k dollars worth of bicycles...that we know of.
Little nipper with short man complex trying to buy game...lol
The SL8/Venge are not as aero as a S5
not my words but what I have been told
Bro can buy a mansion with those bikes if it was 1950 lol
lmao hes got my annual salary on the back of his car
SL8 all the way for me out of these.. although I’ll stick with my Dogma F 😊
maybe a new dogma coming out
Really? This guy owns both
yes he does lol
Murdered out black, subtlety does it for me. Blingy looking S-works is too attention seeking. Either bike would be awesome when you're looking over the handlebars not at the cafe.
the sworks looks very pro to me
The Cannondale is beautiful, the specialized not.
Both are way too heavy for the price. People in SL8 weight weenies forum posting 6.7-6.8kg brutto weights for SL8. (with Pedals + mounts).
gloss paint is heavy
Cannondale thanks to Ben heanley what he did in Giro Itaia
very nice
Lab71 all day. This sl8 is just ugly from the headtube to the paint scheme.
that is a nice statement and a good opinion
I expected both to weigh less. 7.53 and 7.23kg? geez .
Better is madone trek always low Weight
If you can afford the Lab71...you can afford both 😂
LOL, didn't realize both bikes had the same owner.
hahaha yes he has the best of both worlds
How is this Lab71 weighing much more than my SSE4 hi-mod with ultegra. My SSE weighs in 7.1kg. Somehow the SL8 just looks hideous IMO and overpriced as hell.
my CAAD optimo is lighter than those $$$ bikes ?!?
hahaha
OMG! both are beautiful
agreed I am for sure I am biased but something about the black and white decals on the sl8 I love it
CAN is far better, Spec is pure marketing only.
That individual got money 💰 i see! Lol 👌
He said he would get the dentist jokes lol
Too funny!
imo SL8 looks aesthetically better, looks counts for a lot of people - good vid Grant
im still waiting for my sworks sl8 lol
Living in Florida what is the point of these bikes, so dumb unless you race. Also the comments just can't be right you cannot feel the difference between these bikes in flat speed I refuse to believe it.
you never rode down here, you probably dont ride the speeds we ride, if you ride the same bike on the same route on the same flat rode, you wil feel differences, there are no inclines or declines no mountains, it is always the same, always pedaling. there is a difference to notice
Aww, did your feelings get hurt little fella? Are you mad you can't afford these bikes? There, there little Timmy...it will be alright.
My rim brake allez is better 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Better for my bank account.
if it works for you then that is good
Not denouncing but I wouldn’t take this “customers” input at all.
He lives on a primary flat city with zero climbs and looking at the stack height, isn’t an amateur rider but more a weekend warrior who’s able to offload $30,000 on two bikes.
Just look at real world testing from amateur athletes.
no of course and this is not a "all or nothing test" this is more just one customer who has the ability to give his input on it
Geez that is 30 grand worth of bikes.
yea he has my yearly salary just sitting in front of me
i'll take the Lab 71 if i feel like doing some downhill mountain biking
Someone has too much money
he enjoys spending his money on things he loves
@@GCPerformance18 for sure, but spending this much on 2 bikes that are soooooo similar… and I’m saying that but I own 11 bikes. But 2/3 of them are aluminum fixed gear bikes with affordable carbon & alloy components. Like 5 of my bikes equal 1 SL8 hahaha and they are all different. 3 aluminum track bikes with very different style/components, 1 carbon gravel, 1 C50 rim brakes 11s, 2 steel fixies (1 chrome 1 matte black with chunky gravel tires) 1 aluminum TrackloCross and 1 SWorks Venge (frame bought 2nd hand) etc
I can't understand anyone saying this is my forever bike when the thing is made of carbon. For whatever reason you chose a bike carbon is not a forever bike material unless you don't ride it, even then the glue that holds it al together will degrade and lose it's properties and become brittle. Glue is glue this much I know. My Titanium bike is a forever bike and can be ridden everyday of my life and only cost me $11,000. I quit racing years ago and not just because I was getting older but because it's too expensive. So I could not justify paying the asking prices for modern road race bikes. Not even if I was a poser, I.E. Dentist.
I have a titanium bike coming to the channel very soon, blackheart
@@GCPerformance18 👍👍
Good thing I am not a dentist. And why are dentists posers anyway? Good on them for fixing our nasty teeth and blinging their bikes. If I had to look in mouths all day I’d want to look down at a nice bike at the end of the day too! Wouldn’t you?
And yes I agree neither would be my forever bike but I have seen sl2 still riding out there. Realistically speaking steel or titanium is the forever frame.
Neither, buy a Time, they blow that 💩 out of the water
7.5 kilos on a road bike is a crime.
Not at all if you trade some of that weight for more aero properties. Your mind is too stuck in the past.
Another surgeon showing off dat large..... Net worth.
deep pockets, but I just admire. everytime i see a ferrari drive down the road I dont hate on it, I just admire and say I want that lol
Both ugly bikes. I’ll take a madone slr over these two all the time.
Good input
Jealous😂
I just got rid of my 2022 s-works tarmac sl7 for the matte black trek madone SLR gen7...the madone has a smoother and more comfortable ride..it also hold the speed better..im running TPU inner tubes,brown gp5000 continental tires and carried over my Roval rapide CLX wheels..I don't care for bontrager aeolus rsl wheels..roval wheels are alot better to me..the new trek madone slr gen7 is alot lghter in weight than the gen6 madones
What!
Saw a comparison vid yesterday and the Madone was faster than the SL8 in all real world conditions including climbs, soooo, please stop with this one bike to rule them all Specialized, 🙏 please
ah yes.. bicycle for old dudes with too much money.
lmao
owner casually dropping 30k on some bicycles...
What is the purpose of that purple skinned person at the end of your comment?
@@roadcyclist1 are you the owner?
@@comedyman112 no. I own a ribble. What is the point of that cartoon character?
@@roadcyclist1 wouldn't you wanna know, weather boy? 🤣
@comedyman112 what is the point of that cartoon head laughing and crying? I think I see teenage girls use it a lot.
Such bad reviews and NOT great information from the owner. The info is exactly what you were expecting which makes me suspicious he is just repeating what he heard. I mean really with all that money and modification all he can come up with to describe the rides are one keeps up with the bunch better the other keeps up with the bunch better when people are trying to go faster and out of the saddle. Oh and one is more comfortable but it's likely just because of the tire depth and psi difference. Such crap! You have $30k+ in bicycles there ride them for real and provide some actual analysis. How do they handle? How do they brake and slow down? How do they handle road surfaces? Higher rpm? Which is more stable? Which feels lighter beyond the 1lb difference? How do they climb descend and draft and sprint and perform over longer rides? I mean that is just some REALLY BASIC info
That is missing coming from a very amateur cyclist but I'm confident there are many details that I cannot think of that I would notice to mention if I were able to ride both bikes. Oh yea and the most relevant and most important thing you could
Have provided is the fit and your body type. How long are your legs arms torso compared to an average rider and how does the bike feel how do you have the bikes set up and what role does the set up play in the performance of the bike? How does the bike feel from
Different positions? Which is more comfortable from the drops? Which is more STABLE from the Drops!?
This video had a wonderful
Opportunity to be information and for anyone with a brain it wasn't it was just a couple really cool completely custom expensive bicycles that most people in the world will never ride or afford so do everyone a favor and ACTUALLY EXPLAIN something intelligent. (I do have a bike just like this custom
Sl8 I almost built a lab 71 that was top on my list I switched at the last minute but I can tell you - nothing you mentioned really would have been anything I would have considered when buying either. Cool video because of the bikes. Naming all the parts also was annoying and not intuitive or informative in all reality. Just a bad video I think missed opportunity big time! Lol😂
this is the owner of the bikes opinion, this is how he said it rides, maybe what he values doesn't matter to what you value, he does not race, he just has the funds to buy high end stuff, should he be penalized or not be able to buy these bikes because he isn't racing? no he just rides bikes for fun and likes to spend money on bikes instead of other things. also he is not a reviewer or a public speaker, He might of wanted to said more but only said what we he said in the moment