Why Cant You BUY What Tadej Pogačar Rides?
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I know it’s just an equipment item and to the normal 1 consumer it might be looked past but being in an industry where all I do is here customer requests for items. I get asked for this a lot. Also, towards the end of the video, I showcase all his bike parts and how cool it is to have all these boutique parts on it.
Don't you have an ENVE rep you can ask? I think companies have 12 months to produce for the public once an item is in a race.
Forget the bike or components on the bike. What I'd really like to buy are Tadej's legs. Are Tadej's legs for sale?
You also need his heart and lungs
It sure is! At the low price of a year long painful training, high risk of work induced accidents, with a bonus of a lifetime of cardio and skeletal disorders in your old age.
Unfortunately, I’m too poor to afford his fitness; I can only afford to throw money at whatever equipment or gear I want lol.
@@slowcyclist4324doesnt work like that but keep projecting your poor fitness 😂
The model pogacar is riding is the enve ses aero version of the integrated handlebar, which enve says will be released at the end of the month, according to the instagram post.
which post?
it's really late at this point they were supposed to release the AR last year and the Aero in February, really hope they release this soon
i believe the instagram post was from a display at EuroBike? an ENVE stand had both cockpits on display with a note on the aero cockpit saying "coming soon"
@@benetan2324 the post from when they first lunched the integrated model someone commented underneath saying when will this be available in the aero version and when will it be released and they said end of July time, can't find the exact comment now
@@TheBassallyear100 according to there instagram, answering a question from a question on the post it states that the one that UAE are using will come in spring so unsure why it has not been released yet!
The weird thing is there is an explicit UCI rule that states all equipment used in UCI cycling races must be available to the general public within 1 year of use in professional races, and that manufacturers have to demonstrate that they are well on their way in production of that equipment (IE showing tooling, molds, marketing, etc). It doesn't seem like it's enforced at all though! Other examples are things like large chain rings that component manufacturers make for pros but never sell to the public.
“Equipment shall be of a type that is sold for use by anyone practicing cycling as a sport.
Any equipment in development phase and not yet available for sale (prototype) must be
subject of an authorization request to the UCI equipment Unit before its use. Authorization
will be granted only for equipment which is in the final stage of development and for which
commercialization will take place no later than 12 months after the first use in competition.
The manufacturer may request a single prolongation of the prototype status if justified by
relevant reasons.
When assessing a request for use of equipment which is not yet available for sale, the UCI
equipment Unit will pay particular attention to safety of the equipment which will be
submitted to it for authorization."
Article 1.3.006
Enve measures their handlebars on the drops so the 40 is actually a 35 on the tops and 40 on the drops
yes you are right
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The AR in route originally came out for the ENVE custom road bike. The POG bar is called the SES Pro Aero road 1 piece bar.
You can buy up here in Ontario Canada only problem its 1600 bucks way overpriced
Hi Grant! Why don’t you just reach out to ENVE directly to see can they answer your question?
they're the aero not the AR, different drop shape - that's why it's 37c-c as well, which lines up with the 42 model
Enve's name is appropriate, I always feel a little jealous when I see someone kitted out with SES wheels and handlebars. Is it silly for us normal folk to spend the $$ on bikes, yes, but it's fun and still cheaper than other expensive hobbies like vehicles. That being said, the cost of bikes now is wild.
I’ve had an Enve aero stem for 5 years. It’s superb. You don’t need an integrated stem and bar. You need to be able to change the stem length.
It's not enve bar just the decal. Van Rysel as one piece bar made by Deda and it is available with the team bike for retail
The reason why you can’t buy this type of bar is because that’s where they put the motor #doping
I'm full Dura Ace except i use Campy rotors. Why? Simply because they're beautiful, and looks matter.
hahaha hell yea!!! you should look at carbon ti
@@GCPerformance18 I don't like the 6 bolt kluge center lock deal. I might look at Galfer. They're big time in motocross and motorcycle road racing, so plenty of experience stopping vehicles.
@@GCPerformance18 I was also thinking of using the Hope 4 piston caliper on the front. I like really strong brakes, but it's not mineral oil, so no dice.
@@rg807 The Hope RX4+ has a mineral oil counterpart. The piston retaining caps are now marked with M or D, depending on the fluid the caliper is configured for.
Simple bikers like us have Enve components. The pros have Envy components!
i buy almost everything for aesthetics. i'm too damn slow for any other reason these days!
7:38 They are gravel bars, 'AR' model means 'all road'
Yeah AR and Aero are different product lines with Enve, but I totally see why so many people mistake them for the exact same name. AR looks like an abbreviation of Aero if you’re not paying close attention.
I’ve never loved a component more than my AR bars (just bars, not the cockpit), but they are very much road-adjacent gravel bars and not TdF road racing bars. I wouldn’t choose them for my Tarmac (or Tadej’s Colnago)!
I’m definitely that consumer that’s going to buy whatever the pros are riding. I’m all about the aesthetics of my bikes.
hahahah same here, I mean if I can afford it but it for sure has some influence on what I buy
Looks like a Most handlebar off of a Pinarello🤔
no lol looks like a really good bar though,. once it is avaible it will sell
I ride the 35-40 enve with an alu stem and I love the combo. Would choose the narrow tops/flared drops and the stiffness of the alu stem any day over other bars
Maybe the integrated handlebar is (still) from deda elementi? The Alanera RS? UAE was sponsored by them back in the days and maybe they still use their products, but relabeled nowadays…
i bet i can find that bar in aliexpress😂😂😂
hahahhah
can’t beat my $45 FSA Omega Compact 🤘🏻
they will always be goated bar
You're right. Call enve
LMAO i NEED ANSWERS!!!
@@GCPerformance18 try it, you might be surprised, they will talk to you. I've called them a bunch.
Are UCI rules only applied to the frame? I thought it was applied to all equipment including handlebars. The UCI rules I'm referring to is all equipment is available to the public. They have been running that handlebar since last year. If they not going to release that handlebar then the UCI should deem that bike illegal.
This is kind of common, combo bars are made by another manufacturer and are way better than Enve, so Tadej want to ride them, but he have to put Enve stickers on it because of sponsorship.
ENVE has been building the TEAM 1 piece bar since JAN when I took a tour of the factory. I even saw Eric Min's order of the bar being built. I was to get the bar in Mar, then April, then June........ I think they have finally started shipping some July 1
I have not seen it advertised or shipped yet but maybe the end of summer
@@GCPerformance18 Even the women's continental DNA team doesn't have that bar stem
it also use carbon-ti stem cap /w bolt, carbon-ti thru axle and a Bikone bottom bracket
yea I saw the bikone bb so weird, I have never heard of that company before
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In the picture he is wearing gloves.
So he cannot be Tadej. 😆
Special versions of Tour bikes and parts has long been a thing and the UCI doesn't seem to care. For a long time Sarto and a speciality builder in Spain, built most of the peloton's bikes regardless of whose name was tubes. Enve making special bars is just a continuance of a long tradition.
Maybe they are testing what will be the new model?
no this model has been out on pros bike for over a year
I think it also uses a weird bottom bracket from Bikone, like one piece or something like that
Tadej is the engine. Don't forget that😅🚴
no its all equipment
I ride the bikes the pros ride………well the bikes they rode in 2008.
I ride the bikes the pro's ride.....well the bikes they road in 1987-'91. Just with a lighter stronger steel frame, a lot of CF and lighter wheels.
I have a custom road and I believe my one piece combo is different from the one they are now selling. I have few photos to share, if you would like to review.
If there’s plenty of people who can afford what the pros use that’s interesting. I wonder what the breakdown is as far as bike store margins are concerned for the top shelf equipment versus the “prosumer” and mid level buyer. Does the budget bike consumer even still exist? I for one approach bike stuff from a “bang for the buck” which is why I build my own bikes up with stuff I find anywhere from Aliexpress to Panda Podium to a high level bike store in Quebec or my local bike stores. I shop around because it’s all part of the hobby but if I was racing a lot or doing those fast group rides I imagine I’d be looking for the pro level gear. But I’d still probably not look for a $1200 handlebar.
Grant, ran into the same problem, Litespeed came out with a new model called the F1 Spezia, with Enve's aero integrated stem and Enve's SES AR Road handlebar, so i figure i'll order this system to convert my cockpit to internal/integrated, i went to their product page and i don't see it offered, so i called them and asked them why they don't offer it, they gave me a very generic answer like from a robot, i said to them why wouldn't you offer this don't you think people would want to buy this, and the CS person just didn't have an answer. Don't know what is going on with ENVE, bizzarro world for sure
Pedestrians do NOT get access to buying pro-specific equipment, ONLY replicas! A simple example, the pro frames top-tubes have extremely light upper-sides in contrast to the bottom-side!
Enve put out an email today calling it the SES Pro Team One-piece Handlebar.
when did they do this?
Hit my inbox this morning at 1010 am PST. They were celebrating their 1st GT stage win on the Melee.
@@GCPerformance18I forwarded it to you.
The only gear the public cant buy is the stuff the doctors are giving him! He smashed the doped Pantani's record and barely broke a sweat. 😂
Hahahaha I know man, it’s crazy to see the time get beat by that much when it stood for so long
You forgot the BIke One ceramic BB.Never heard of them either.
It make me laugh when i hear that we can buy the same products that the pros have.I live in Italy and i often go to watch amateur road races.Not a week goes by that i don't see a broken frames when riders fall.Now: I also watch the Giro d'Italia or the Tour de France and crashes are the order of the day.Have you ever seen shattered frame? i have not,why? In my opinion the materials/frames of the Pros are not the same as what they sell to us amateurs!!
I agree! The frames the pro rides are the “same” but not really.
Enve had the new aero bars on display at EuroBike. They're coming...
I don't know wth is going on with Enve they said they would release right after the AR one piece but nothing yet about the Aero, but they do say they are releasing at some point. The one piece handlebar that's currently available is their one piece All Road bars, the one Tadej uses is the Aero one that hasn't been released yet.
would be cool if they ditched the shimano cranks all together 😅
New “pogi” handlebar will be available this summer soon
Can barely even get Carbon-TI chainrings as their production line is just almost exclusively running for UAE 😢
Love how GC finds the time to cover such silly topics but let me help him understand the difference between the handlebars. The one piece bar offered to the race teams is a sleeker, narrower, lighter piece designed around a race longer stem and reach. The one for the consumer is beefier , design to work with shorter stem length , accepts their TT extensions clamp and has to be more sturdier and stiff. Enve offers aero clamps for their TT extensions , that clamp on the aero profile top bar. Hope this makes sense and GC can reload now
That doesn't really answer the question. GC already covered that they are different - he isn't exploring WHY they are different, just asking why the Pro one is offered for sale because thats what consumers want. You don't really answer that question either. As for being beefy or not, you don't know that for a fact because you don't know how the carbon has been laid up on the pro version. A bulkier look doesn't necessarily mean a stronger, stiffer bar.
@@SandSanta Because the pro one doesn't have to support the tt extensions, pros don't convert their road bikes into tt bikes, so the one for consumer has to be beefier and sturdier to work both , pretty clear NO?
@@ciprian7 I don't think you're understanding the ask here - people want the SAME BAR as the pros - not another bar with other use cases. Its not me not understanding the difference, its you not understanding what some consumers are asking for.
@@SandSanta dude... when a brand is selling a product to consumers they have to deliver it so that it can withstand things consumers may do to them. If they sell the same handlebar - like you want them to do - and a few riders try to mount the aero extensions and die in crashes it would be bad for the brand. Not so hard to get I believe.... btw, 1200 $ or 1399 € for a handlebar that offers nothing other handlebars don't for less than half the price is ridiculous, so a smart buyer stays away from that crap anyways; which is also true for their wheels which are hookless and dangerous - watch Tadej's crash caused by that! Luckily it was at very slow speed, but imagine that happen at a descent with 100 kph... The entire ENVE range is extremely overpriced and not nearly as well designed as they want us to believe
Dude, just stop.
The video is about how they are different.
You don’t seem to get that consumers don’t care about practicality; they just want what the pros have, because it’s cool. That’s all. we don’t care about cycling competitively, so we have the money and privilege to buy whatever we want, practicality be damned.
It’s a sport where you just use whatever you want, not what you need. Simple.
9:18 This is Pornago V4S. . . bike porn!
💯 exactly same as I feel on their handlebar but I one you rude sold out...SPECIALIZED one piece needs the drops flare of 3-5 cm...any other available great 1 piece solution?😊
Looks like he has removed the rubber in front of the bleed port on the brake caliper
Something something fake LAB71 😂 Seems like another case of companies using smoke and mirrors trying to market a certain product vs. the crazy fragile stuff pros actually use.
lmao yep
Are there tests comparing performance of various rotors and pads? I'm heavy, so if something brakes notably better, I'm interested.
Not really, but I follow another TH-camr who is a weight weenie. He has tried all sorts of rotors, including Carbon-Ti, and he is now using the latest Dura-Ace rotors because, in his own words, "these are the only rotors that do not bend with hard braking during descents." Mind you, he lives in Japan and all he does is climb! So I trust his opinion.
This might be why the team bus got all their bikes stolen 😅
They even cut the number tag for aero gains...
Shouldnt bikes be available before a race happens according to UCI?
BOW-TEEK. hahahahahahahhahaahahah
lmfaooo
It's like the Formule 1 ...
.. let's dive in ..
Fake news LOL Acording to UCI rules etc, they eventually have to sell the products to consumers. Keyword is "eventually" plus there is no mention in the rules as to how many needs to be sold
it needs to be within a year once the product is being raced upon, this he has been riding since march of 2023
I'm with you. I love this crazy beautiful tech 🤩😎
I love it
my question is whether that ENVE bar is as light and strong as Roval Rapide Cockpit I have on my Aethos along with aero 3D headset spacers which is significantly less cost and has won a lot of TdF sprints, etc.
I have no idea, we have not seen one in shop or at least in person but I would assume it is strong being ridden by pros
He had a 3rd leg. In the giro.
He pedals like he has electric powered legs. But of course, it just looks that way.
Tadej is one of us because we all have $15k to build boutique bikes with exotic parts. GC used to be one of us but now he is just like Tadej , maybe should wear the yellow kit as well
More than 15k given all the exotic stuff. I think colnago, stock, is already the most expensive tour bike, above 15k?
video could've been shorten to 3 min max...
yea fuc me
They’re late and I don’t know if UCI is going to deal with it. It’s bullshit.
uci will let it slide
@@GCPerformance18 but God forbid you kiss your wife in the tt 🤡
It looks like a rebranded deda alanera …
wasnt mathew the goat rn?
mvdp? he is the world champion I think of him as the best 1 day racer but when it comes to grand tours no one can out shine tadej and his longevity, the man is always healthy and also has a motor that no one else has
Asked Colnago if I can get one of those Poga motors to install on my Trek. They said it's copyrighted to Poga.
Omg you're so funny, you should tell that to your imaginary friends!
Hii
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hahahha lets see what happens with uci
You are so wrong. Pro stuff is often custom and not available to the public. Has been this way Sine the 80's.
Except the UCI a while back enforced that components riders use have to be made available to the public within a specific timeframe.
IMO the parts should be publicly released before they can even use it.
SOMEDAY grant you will realize the rider wins races not equipment..im sure customers are knocking down your door wanting to pay $1200 for a bar ! You think pogs colnago is off the shelf? THE RIDER WINS RACES..quit pushing the bikes are the stars! If the SL 8 is so good why arent they world champion like canyon with van der poel? riders are test pilots for new products..where have you been the last 15 years????
You ain't too bright are you?
Uhhhhh we own a bike shop, I’m not saying his bars are the reason his winning races. I’m saying it’s cool to see pros have custom items on there bike
Whooossshhhhh……
@@pierrex3226 WHO taught you english? arent is the word to use GENIUS..
@@GCPerformance18 How do you know what they are using? so enve prototypes new wheels, puts old decals on, and nobody knows..same with frames, shoes. groups...you can not buy the colnogo that pog rides..looks the same..CUSTOM!!!!
Have you taken an even closer look at his handlebars since Saturday? 😇
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