Does not add any power, but does clean up and fine tune the throttle response. I own the pedal commander, and it works awesome. You will pay much more for a programmer, which will only add minimal hp/tq at the very least.
Skip the pedalmax and go straight for the Edge Pulsar. Power levels adjust pedal sensitivity, they're adjustable on the fly with your cruise buttons without stopping, and it's dyno proven for around 30hp to the wheels. I get 1-2 mpg better pulling my RV as well. Plus, it doesn't require unlocking your PCM, and when you take it in to the dealer it comes out with 2 bolts in about 5-10 minutes. As it simply manipulates what goes in/out of the computer you can remove it and send the truck in and the dealer has readings to look at (vs. no history when you take out your tune and put the factory back in) and therefore has no idea you have a programmer. I don't work for any of these companies, just a happy customer who wasted money on a pedal commander then bought the programmer and enjoyed a legit gain in performance instead of a placebo.
Just bought a ‘19 ram 1500 classic bighorn 5.7. So far I’m lovin it !! Glad to see another PA guy doing his thing 😎. If you ever make your way towards Bethlehem let me know !!
Hey i jave a 2020 ram bighorn...wondering if you could reply to this to let me know how it works out,? Looking at getting one aling with cia and throttle body spacer..already have borla exhaust
@@lexschmidt8471 so I’m not sure if it’s my vehicle it works fine the issue I was having it was throwing my sensors off so I stopped using mine I have the commander version for my Dodge charger and that works fine. I’ve never had any issues. I never tried that version on my Ram so buy with caution I did upgrade my muffler and resonator delete so I don’t feel lag anymore.
@@thatoff-roaddude9515hey thank you man i appreciate it .i think im goona go with the commander or banks one..ive got my throttle body and cia figured out i just need something to get rid of the throttle lag drives me nuts
I agree with the one’s that say it doesn’t add power. I had the Pedal Commander for a month or two. I tried all positions and actually preferred stock. Especially after the day I went to the stored and the unit failed. Most of the ride was below 40 mph neighborhoods, and about 1/2 mile of 55mph. It wasn’t till this stretch that I realized I had no throttle control. The truck would just keep speeding up till I hit the brake without ever touching the throttle. In park it idled fine. Put it in gear and it took off. Not fast but just kept going faster and faster till I hit the brake. Remove the unit and the truck is fine. Then I had to go in and clear all the codes and lights it set.
@@jayhopkins1337 all I really saw that it did was make the throttle more sensitive. Kinda like changing the cam on a carb. Did make it fast, take off better, this wasn’t a performance upgrade. Max throttle was still the same. Till it wasn’t and killed the throttle all together!
Hey Steve, thanks for the video on the PedalMax. I was skeptical about this product working like you say it does. I just put mine in today on my new 2020 Ram Rebel and took it for a spin and I am now a believer. Boy did it open up those 400hp ponies. Yes guy's it works as he says it does. Beats paying big bucks for a Diablo tuner any day. You got yourself another subscriber. Thanks, Rob
I installed mine and all the warning lights came on? I disconnected the battery before installing too. Check engine, traction control disabled, tow haul disabled.. what gives lol? 2020 ram rebel.
Dane hmmm I have done 2 of these in new rams with no issues and didn’t disconnect the battery at my own risk make sure all the plugs are seated if they are I’d contact JMS
I agree with Steve, I have had mine in for over a month now without one issue. Try unplugging from the pedal again and reinstall. If doesn't help call JMS.
I timed both 0-60 mph and they are both 6.56 seconds in response > so I thought maybe the delay was around 25 mph so I timed both @ 0-40 mph and same time on both @ 3.65
What's difficult to understand? By asking for more throttle response you are getting more power to the ground. Hence the hidden power as you don't get this stock. He didn't say you are MAKING more power.
@@sergeysmelnik I don't think you understand what it's actually doing. You can do that stock but it doesn't mean it responds faster and is as aggressive. Adding these pedal commander type mods do both and considerably increases acceleration and speed. Not difficult to use your head and think about it.
@@MrComputerCoder No sir you are the one who doesnt understand how it works, I wrote a comment in this video explaining it. This product doesnt affect the ecu, which is why its warranty safe. The ecu is what slows down the throttle body opening speed. The throttle body only sees the input from the ecu, not the throttle pedal. Therefore no matter what you install on the throttle pedal it will never change the way the ecu interacts with your throttle body. All this thing does is change the signal from pedal to ecu. You press down 20 percent but with this product the ecu is seeing 30 percent for example. This product cant get rid of torque management and other nannies that try to save the drive train. You literally can press your pedal down faster and further and do exactly what this product does. There is no "lag" in an electronic system like this. It does absolutely zero for acceleration and speed.
@@sergeysmelnik ironically it still let's you accelerate faster lol 😂 I know the reasoning. Don't care what you say it makes it faster. Honestly not hard to do a simple Google search to find results.
@@xmarksthespot4617 pretty much. So the throttle is all electronic now, no physical connection between the pedal and throttle body. Just an electric signal telling the throttle body to open, and how far to open. This, and many others exactly like it, take that signal and boost it. So if you barely press the pedal for normal take off from a stop, your throttle body might open 20%. This would take your same input but change it from 20% to 40% or something. Give you the illusion you’re gaining power when it’s just the same as if you push the pedal to 40% yourself. Wide open throttle is still 100% with or without this module. It’s a gimmick. If you want the throttle to be more “responsive” just stand on the pedal lol
You can change the throttle response in the ecm itself if you dont mind voiding warranty lol. Its a cool little tool for those who want to leave the ecm alone.
Food for thought: That lag in response on the newer generation RAM is built in there by the engineers. What the lag does is signal the 8spd Aisin transmission to start circulating more fluid before accelerating. This protects that expensive transmission.
It's the same thing is the pedal commander. Set it just opens the throttle plate more then what the factory setting is I think it's definitely worth it.
Banks just came out with the Pedal Monster. No crazy code if you bump the wire, it will default to the standard code. They also have the power draw on the connector figured out.
@@MoparSammy Hi Mopar Sammy, I have the 2019 Classic and It will not spin the tires, I have the 3.92. from a dead stop floored and it will not spin at all.
I timed the 0-60 on the video (four times each) with and without the pedalmax, Without it the truck averaged 7.04 seconds 0-60, and with it the truck averaged 7.48! What I noticed in the video is that with the pedalmax there was a lag in the speed increasing right around 50 mph. That could have been a driver variance. I put one of these in my '14 Ram, and it was fun for a couple weeks, but after that, I took it out because my mileage significantly went down (yes I could have reduced the percentage, but I found myself liking it too much). I now have a '21 Ram, and the factory did somewhat address this issue, but there is still a significant lag when passing. What I do now is, if I think I'm going to pass, I just blip the gas pedal, which causes the transmission to downshift a couple gears so when I do you get on it there's not as much delay.
The pedal boostermaxcommander works by altering the signal that is being sent to the ecu of the vehicle. Most stock vehicles give you a 1 to 1 ratio oh how far you press the pedal and how far the throttle body opens. Press the pedal half way and throttle body opens half way, just like the old throttle by cable systems. However because this is electronic, manufactures added in things like torque management, or clutch protection for smoother acceleration. These things make it feel like the throttle body is opening slower than the throttle press many times, and thats exactly whats happening. This product installs right between the pedal and ecu and intercepts the signal. It then increases the signal and sends it to the ecu. For example if you press the pedal half way, the throttle body opens three quarters of the way. But because the product is installed before the ecu, the ecu will still add in torque management and slow down the speed at which your throttle body opens. This is why this product is warranty safe as well, it doesnt tamper with any ecu settings. Your ecu just things youre pressing the pedal down further than you are, which brings me to the point, dont waste your money, just press the pedal down faster and further. Also, these products all do the same thing and are very simple and over priced. I think at 20 dollars it would be a great product. RC radios now days come with more complex version of this product for 40 bucks. But you get to map out your exact throttle press on a visual graph. Also, any car or truck with sport mode increases the throttle sensitivity, and its already built in and free. The true and only way to get rid of a slow, gradual opening throttle body is to simply tune.
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA What Sergey is saying makes a lot of sense. Are you claiming that this device exceeds the limits of the pedal? Like, assuming stock pedal has a max throttle open speed of X at WOT when the pedal is floored. This device can exceed that speed by some percent? And 7 degrees more than what? If it is 7 degrees more than where the throttle is open at any point on stock pedal travel, then you are proving Sergey's point that simply pressing the stock pedal more or faster would achieve the same goal. Not trying to be dismissive of the product, it just seems more like a throttle input adjuster than something that would release power. For that, like Sergey said, you would need to tune the ECU.
jed92y I mean obviously I did not invest this product but from my understanding it allows the throttle to open faster and open 7 degrees more than stock so pressing the pedal to the floor there is a delay and this will eliminate that by intercepting the output from the ecu and amplifying the signal to the throttle body motor causing it to open faster than stock in turn giving you control over throttle lag and the difference is very noticeable
Duuuude!! This thing is awesome!! Just ordered, received and installed into my 2020 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi. What a difference!!! You have help me unleash the BEAST!!!! Frickin LOVE IT!! Thanks again for the video! #HEMIPOWER
I have a 2019 Laramie tow package with the 3.92 rear axle and I get tire spin from a stop on gravel and a loud screech on asphalt. No mod for me needed...but I'm an older guy!
@@hemilifeornolife567 I sure dont know. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I guess for me, the truck has enough power and speed with no mods. Understand though that the 2019 ram I bought replaced my old worn out 2004 chevy Silverado with just a little over 300k miles on it with the original transmission and engine. So I am used to driving an old worn out truck. Even a Prius would have more power than that old girl! I do have the 3.92 rear axle. 4x4. Maybe that's why it spins out on gravel etc.
Jessy Adsms tow package just would be a difference on like trailer mirrors/trailer brakes/rear end gear ⚙️ be different than one without, I’m not sure if they would be automatically be made with the 4x4 or not that’s also an option too I believe either way i don’t think it would make it faster by having the towing package or not, would just be how much harder it would leave of the start due to having a higher gear ration like a 3.92.
Jessy Adsms I own a 17 Ram Rebel and has every option minus the sunroof. Comes with the 3.92 and I have modded this truck and it does leave hard off the start. I can spin the tires even on traction control on
That throttle delay is annoying and I would even say dangerous. When I got my truck I noticed myself giving more pedal off the line because it wasn’t moving right away but then I get more throttle than I wanted.
If it has the 5.7 Hemi V8 ...to make it go faster. Try changing out the stock intake to a 392 intake plus born out the head says inquire to do out the intake Plus installing two double turbos
I have a 2019 longhorn model with echo boost. It is stock and when I disable echo Mode by switching it to Manual, it will burn the tires off from dead stop. Not saying the mod won't help, but there was to much lag on that truck before the mod.
My 2019 RAM 1500 V8 4x4 CCab has the same issue...a delayed response to the pedal in acceleration. Not just that, while driving, say between 40-50 and the traffic opens up and if it is a freeway, I push the pedal, not quite flooring, but I have some 2-3 seconds delay before I see the acceleration. So, as you described, will this JMS Pedal-Max do the magic trick on mine, or is it just a myth? Also, I would like for you to make a detailed video of BorgWarner 44x44 and BorgWarner 44x45 systems of RAM and how DOdge lied to the customers on BW44x44 and calling it 4x4, which is not the case because it is a wet clutch concept. The only true 4x4 is BW44x45.
I’m sorry, I didn’t rely notice any quicker Acceleration from dead take off. I will say if your cruising at a certain speed and your in a high gear, it takes a bit for the transmission to downshift from 6or 7th gear to 3rd.
@@AndoBMS another guy did a video on how these work, basically it tells the computer to open the throttle more than stock. As far as delay, it doesn’t take it out, you just think it did bc your mind is use to the amount of power to the ratio of pedal your pushing. A guy did a video on the pedal commander and no delay was reduced, just the throttle position from stock
Great product after your recommendation after the Camaro vid I picked one up for my grand sport and wow what a difference. I skipped the knob install so it stays set on 60% automatically. Thanks for the review
An interested effect, if you're driving, and turn this on, it feels like the throttle pedal loses resistance. It's made me hold off on a tuner/unlocked PCM package.
Thanks for watching no worries with warranty if you end up having an engine issue you can always remove it and there is no way they would know it was installed just to remove the blame game from the equation
Subbed to the channel because I love learning about mods. Looking into a 2019 limited early next year. Can the videos include if warranty is voided with each mod? That would be super helpful
Nate Skinner welcome to the channel and my plan with this build is all bolt on accessories that will have no affect on warranty, mine has a lifetime power train warranty and I’d like to keep that in tact for sure
Knowing FAC and the service dept if they were to find out about that mod it would indeed void the warrantee. Vehicle manufacturers these days frown upon that unless its done in house and its approved. Looks like a great mod and adds more fun!
That gap between the grille and bumper i think could be fixed if you get the sports grille , not entirely sure but thats what i have heard from people who swap out for the 4th gen bumper
Love your site and have a Laramie limited 2020 because you spoke so highly and I freaking love it. What muffler do I get so it sounds like your old one?
Thank you for the performance enhancement tip! Question: Larger cool-air intake. Have you tested or know the impact of replacing the current air intake for a larger & cooled one on the new Ram 1500?
Lucas Beradi I haven’t got my cold air intake since it is still in development but as soon as I get it there will be a video on it should be early 2020
Hey I know this is a bit late and I’ve seen you changed trucks but I’ve wanted to know your final impressions of owning the pedal max and if I should get it installed on my truck. Does it hurt or decrease engine life in any way and is there anything I should know about. Really like the idea of reduced throttle lag because the 5.7 hemi on rams do have quite a bit delay when hitting the throttle even for 4wd so should I be fine to get it or should I not
What did you use on that bumper?? Can you use this on the frame? I want to pre treat my frame, living in PA the salt kills these trucks! I have a brand new 21 1500 and what to protect underneath soon!
Beware of breaking a coil spring when using these.. ive also lost power while driving on the freeway. I used the pedal commander on my 2017 ram 1500 sport. Im sure this is the same.. just saying, faster acceleration isnt always good for stock. Dont get me wrong..its fun to use,just use lightly. Nobody likes a blinking check engine light.
So your 2019 won't spin the tires? V6? My 2018 5.7 will cook the tires without anything even with the "traction control " on. That doesn't work when both wheels break free off the line.
Not doubting the seat of the pants feel that is obviously better than stock by your laughter but according to the zero to 60 times on your video, they are exactly 7 seconds on the before ( 3.32 - 3.39 ), and on the after ( 9.18 - 9.25 ) so I'm wondering if this is really much of an advantage. This was a couple of years ago now so I am wondering if this has remained a good choice and would you still recommend it? I have a brand new 2021 Ram 1500 and I am considering this. Any input would be great, thanks.
so, does it just change the throttle angle ratio to the computer? So, 20% angle changes to 30% or more depending on the adjustment? WOT is still WOT or does that come on earlier too? Like a condensed angle sensor?
It's not about adding power.its about unleashing the power already there.ig you want to build a race truck have at it.its just a way to enjoy our trucks and cars.not every body is a race track roadie .
My pulsar keep tripping codes for my electronic throttle module and then I get no power to my wheels really until it resets .. does this mod ever have that problem ?
Gran Sport it doesn’t give you a gain it takes away the throttle lag but I have heard people getting better dyno numbers since the throttle opens more than stock
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The PedalMax sure looks like an awesome mod. Congrats
thanks I turned it off today just to see if i needed it on all the time and turned it back on about 30 seconds later love this product
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA Looking forward to meeting you tomorrow with Olde Carr Auto Guy.
America: Bumper to Bumper sounds good
I have jsm on my duramax will never own a car without it from now on
Can this work in conjunction with the pulsar from Diablo?
Does not add any power, but does clean up and fine tune the throttle response. I own the pedal commander, and it works awesome. You will pay much more for a programmer, which will only add minimal hp/tq at the very least.
How long have u had PC? I had mine 1 1/2 years when it completely malfunctioned and had to be removed so my throttle would work again
If you turn off traction control it will smoke the tires. Mine will bone stock
yes ... Spot mode is --> Turn off Traction Control and turn on towing ... it makes the trans pop a little harder
Skip the pedalmax and go straight for the Edge Pulsar.
Power levels adjust pedal sensitivity, they're adjustable on the fly with your cruise buttons without stopping, and it's dyno proven for around 30hp to the wheels. I get 1-2 mpg better pulling my RV as well.
Plus, it doesn't require unlocking your PCM, and when you take it in to the dealer it comes out with 2 bolts in about 5-10 minutes. As it simply manipulates what goes in/out of the computer you can remove it and send the truck in and the dealer has readings to look at (vs. no history when you take out your tune and put the factory back in) and therefore has no idea you have a programmer.
I don't work for any of these companies, just a happy customer who wasted money on a pedal commander then bought the programmer and enjoyed a legit gain in performance instead of a placebo.
Just bought a ‘19 ram 1500 classic bighorn 5.7. So far I’m lovin it !! Glad to see another PA guy doing his thing 😎. If you ever make your way towards Bethlehem let me know !!
Mike W. Thanks yeah I hoped to be around lots this year but good old China put a wrench in that one lol
Hammerdown Motorsports yeah I hear ya . I am trying to add on to the truck but I end up waiting weeks to be told “ it’s on back order “ 😖
gotta do some maintenance on mine, after im done Ill be installing next
I so just bought this for my 2020 RAM 😁 I totally notice the delay at a dead stop. I'm gonna enjoy this 🤙
Hey i jave a 2020 ram bighorn...wondering if you could reply to this to let me know how it works out,? Looking at getting one aling with cia and throttle body spacer..already have borla exhaust
@@lexschmidt8471 so I’m not sure if it’s my vehicle it works fine the issue I was having it was throwing my sensors off so I stopped using mine I have the commander version for my Dodge charger and that works fine. I’ve never had any issues. I never tried that version on my Ram so buy with caution I did upgrade my muffler and resonator delete so I don’t feel lag anymore.
@@thatoff-roaddude9515hey thank you man i appreciate it .i think im goona go with the commander or banks one..ive got my throttle body and cia figured out i just need something to get rid of the throttle lag drives me nuts
Change in throttle response is nice. I would suggest using the Pulsar tuner box. In line tuner that when removed the dealer can’t see it.
I agree with the one’s that say it doesn’t add power. I had the Pedal Commander for a month or two. I tried all positions and actually preferred stock. Especially after the day I went to the stored and the unit failed. Most of the ride was below 40 mph neighborhoods, and about 1/2 mile of 55mph. It wasn’t till this stretch that I realized I had no throttle control. The truck would just keep speeding up till I hit the brake without ever touching the throttle. In park it idled fine. Put it in gear and it took off. Not fast but just kept going faster and faster till I hit the brake. Remove the unit and the truck is fine. Then I had to go in and clear all the codes and lights it set.
Tom Wise should have gone with the pedal max
I’ll just leave it be. I’ve outgrown most of that.
Yes I had similar problems with pedal commander! Dangerous! And company wouldn't return my messages
@@jayhopkins1337 all I really saw that it did was make the throttle more sensitive. Kinda like changing the cam on a carb. Did make it fast, take off better, this wasn’t a performance upgrade. Max throttle was still the same. Till it wasn’t and killed the throttle all together!
What an awesome mod! I installed it today and cant believe how much quicker the truck is. I highly recommend it.
Roland Pelletier see so much better love that thing thanks JMS
I feel ya'! When I upgraded my intake and exhaust and tuned it, I was like a big kid! Oh, I still am!
What tune?
@@kylershirley5444 Superchips!
Hey Steve, thanks for the video on the PedalMax. I was skeptical about this product working like you say it does. I just put mine in today on my new 2020 Ram Rebel and took it for a spin and I am now a believer. Boy did it open up those 400hp ponies. Yes guy's it works as he says it does. Beats paying big bucks for a Diablo tuner any day. You got yourself another subscriber. Thanks, Rob
Robert Alexander awesome i am glad you love it like I knew you would, I wouldn’t tell people about it unless it was worth it thanks for your comment
I installed mine and all the warning lights came on? I disconnected the battery before installing too. Check engine, traction control disabled, tow haul disabled.. what gives lol? 2020 ram rebel.
Dane hmmm I have done 2 of these in new rams with no issues and didn’t disconnect the battery at my own risk make sure all the plugs are seated if they are I’d contact JMS
I agree with Steve, I have had mine in for over a month now without one issue. Try unplugging from the pedal again and reinstall. If doesn't help call JMS.
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA yeah will do thanks
I love the new interiors in the dodges
I timed both 0-60 mph and they are both 6.56 seconds in response > so I thought maybe the delay was around 25 mph so I timed both @ 0-40 mph and same time on both @ 3.65
I timed them too, so now I’m questioning if its worth it
…. I did see the mpg go down though lol
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I had my PCU sent out 6 checks 3 on the engine 3 on the transmission, S & B cold air and turned. Freaking amazing.
It doesn't add any horsepower just changes throttle response. Why do people not understand that?
What's difficult to understand? By asking for more throttle response you are getting more power to the ground. Hence the hidden power as you don't get this stock. He didn't say you are MAKING more power.
@@MrComputerCoder Pressing the pedal down faster does exactly the same thing.
@@sergeysmelnik I don't think you understand what it's actually doing. You can do that stock but it doesn't mean it responds faster and is as aggressive.
Adding these pedal commander type mods do both and considerably increases acceleration and speed.
Not difficult to use your head and think about it.
@@MrComputerCoder No sir you are the one who doesnt understand how it works, I wrote a comment in this video explaining it. This product doesnt affect the ecu, which is why its warranty safe. The ecu is what slows down the throttle body opening speed. The throttle body only sees the input from the ecu, not the throttle pedal. Therefore no matter what you install on the throttle pedal it will never change the way the ecu interacts with your throttle body. All this thing does is change the signal from pedal to ecu. You press down 20 percent but with this product the ecu is seeing 30 percent for example. This product cant get rid of torque management and other nannies that try to save the drive train. You literally can press your pedal down faster and further and do exactly what this product does. There is no "lag" in an electronic system like this. It does absolutely zero for acceleration and speed.
@@sergeysmelnik ironically it still let's you accelerate faster lol 😂
I know the reasoning. Don't care what you say it makes it faster.
Honestly not hard to do a simple Google search to find results.
You should have a side to side comparison. With and without the pedal max from 0-60
They wont do that cause then you will really see what you get for $300!
@@zash008 so basically nothing, I'm assuming? Cuz it doesn't add hp, it just make throttle response better, right?......or am I wrong? Lol
@@xmarksthespot4617 pretty much. So the throttle is all electronic now, no physical connection between the pedal and throttle body. Just an electric signal telling the throttle body to open, and how far to open. This, and many others exactly like it, take that signal and boost it. So if you barely press the pedal for normal take off from a stop, your throttle body might open 20%. This would take your same input but change it from 20% to 40% or something. Give you the illusion you’re gaining power when it’s just the same as if you push the pedal to 40% yourself. Wide open throttle is still 100% with or without this module. It’s a gimmick. If you want the throttle to be more “responsive” just stand on the pedal lol
@@heklyr3370 that’s exactly what i was thinking. Thanks for the reply.
I timed it as I watched and didn't see any difference from 0 to 40 or 0 to 60. Not worth it in my mind.
Turn off traction control and turn on tow haul mode! The difference is mind blowing!!!!!
Definitely gonna try, what's the difference?
@@wesleylipe3308 You'll see! ;) It will feel like a whole different beast and even more so with a unit like this or the pedal commander.
Put it in 4HI too.
@@mikebromelow8514 my buddy says that to im trying it tomm
You can change the throttle response in the ecm itself if you dont mind voiding warranty lol. Its a cool little tool for those who want to leave the ecm alone.
Food for thought: That lag in response on the newer generation RAM is built in there by the engineers. What the lag does is signal the 8spd Aisin transmission to start circulating more fluid before accelerating. This protects that expensive transmission.
This is a ZF 8 speed not an Aisin and what you are saying is nonsense.
I love America not aisin
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This escalated quick.
@@charlesmarshall2697 same ZF8 in the Audi? Lol
It's the same thing is the pedal commander. Set it just opens the throttle plate more then what the factory setting is I think it's definitely worth it.
Banks just came out with the Pedal Monster. No crazy code if you bump the wire, it will default to the standard code. They also have the power draw on the connector figured out.
Yes, the Pedal Monster seems far more superior and almost the same price.
So I’m late to the party but I have the pedal monster and it’s amazing
3.92 and Etorque Hemi, I can light em up on dry asphalt every time.
1971kpc same here I have a 2019 Classic 4th Gen, those 5th gens are badass
@@MoparSammy Hi Mopar Sammy, I have the 2019 Classic and It will not spin the tires, I have the 3.92. from a dead stop floored and it will not spin at all.
Joe Rogers take off traction control!!!
no eTorque on mine, but I can definitely smoke my tires on dry asphalt.
@@jrogers7581 what's your elevation?
I timed the 0-60 on the video (four times each) with and without the pedalmax, Without it the truck averaged 7.04 seconds 0-60, and with it the truck averaged 7.48! What I noticed in the video is that with the pedalmax there was a lag in the speed increasing right around 50 mph. That could have been a driver variance. I put one of these in my '14 Ram, and it was fun for a couple weeks, but after that, I took it out because my mileage significantly went down (yes I could have reduced the percentage, but I found myself liking it too much). I now have a '21 Ram, and the factory did somewhat address this issue, but there is still a significant lag when passing. What I do now is, if I think I'm going to pass, I just blip the gas pedal, which causes the transmission to downshift a couple gears so when I do you get on it there's not as much delay.
The pedal boostermaxcommander works by altering the signal that is being sent to the ecu of the vehicle. Most stock vehicles give you a 1 to 1 ratio oh how far you press the pedal and how far the throttle body opens. Press the pedal half way and throttle body opens half way, just like the old throttle by cable systems. However because this is electronic, manufactures added in things like torque management, or clutch protection for smoother acceleration. These things make it feel like the throttle body is opening slower than the throttle press many times, and thats exactly whats happening. This product installs right between the pedal and ecu and intercepts the signal. It then increases the signal and sends it to the ecu. For example if you press the pedal half way, the throttle body opens three quarters of the way. But because the product is installed before the ecu, the ecu will still add in torque management and slow down the speed at which your throttle body opens. This is why this product is warranty safe as well, it doesnt tamper with any ecu settings. Your ecu just things youre pressing the pedal down further than you are, which brings me to the point, dont waste your money, just press the pedal down faster and further. Also, these products all do the same thing and are very simple and over priced. I think at 20 dollars it would be a great product. RC radios now days come with more complex version of this product for 40 bucks. But you get to map out your exact throttle press on a visual graph. Also, any car or truck with sport mode increases the throttle sensitivity, and its already built in and free. The true and only way to get rid of a slow, gradual opening throttle body is to simply tune.
but the PedalMax opens it faster and 7 degrees more
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA What Sergey is saying makes a lot of sense. Are you claiming that this device exceeds the limits of the pedal? Like, assuming stock pedal has a max throttle open speed of X at WOT when the pedal is floored. This device can exceed that speed by some percent? And 7 degrees more than what? If it is 7 degrees more than where the throttle is open at any point on stock pedal travel, then you are proving Sergey's point that simply pressing the stock pedal more or faster would achieve the same goal. Not trying to be dismissive of the product, it just seems more like a throttle input adjuster than something that would release power. For that, like Sergey said, you would need to tune the ECU.
jed92y I mean obviously I did not invest this product but from my understanding it allows the throttle to open faster and open 7 degrees more than stock so pressing the pedal to the floor there is a delay and this will eliminate that by intercepting the output from the ecu and amplifying the signal to the throttle body motor causing it to open faster than stock in turn giving you control over throttle lag and the difference is very noticeable
Duuuude!! This thing is awesome!! Just ordered, received and installed into my 2020 Ram 1500 5.7 Hemi. What a difference!!! You have help me unleash the BEAST!!!! Frickin LOVE IT!! Thanks again for the video! #HEMIPOWER
Did you really just put a hashtag here?
the delay is directly from a dead stop so this is helpful in a way
I have a 2019 Laramie tow package with the 3.92 rear axle and I get tire spin from a stop on gravel and a loud screech on asphalt.
No mod for me needed...but I'm an older guy!
I have a 2018 ram 1500 Big Horn with the tow package it’s also a 4 x 4 does that mean it’s going to be
Faster than a ram what out to a package
Miss spelled tow package
@@hemilifeornolife567 I sure dont know. I'm not an expert by any stretch of the imagination. I guess for me, the truck has enough power and speed with no mods. Understand though that the 2019 ram I bought replaced my old worn out 2004 chevy Silverado with just a little over 300k miles on it with the original transmission and engine. So I am used to driving an old worn out truck. Even a Prius would have more power than that old girl!
I do have the 3.92 rear axle. 4x4.
Maybe that's why it spins out on gravel etc.
Jessy Adsms tow package just would be a difference on like trailer mirrors/trailer brakes/rear end gear ⚙️ be different than one without, I’m not sure if they would be automatically be made with the 4x4 or not that’s also an option too I believe either way i don’t think it would make it faster by having the towing package or not, would just be how much harder it would leave of the start due to having a higher gear ration like a 3.92.
Jessy Adsms I own a 17 Ram Rebel and has every option minus the sunroof. Comes with the 3.92 and I have modded this truck and it does leave hard off the start. I can spin the tires even on traction control on
When i floor my 10,it makes a swish sound and takes off like a icbm 😼.
That throttle delay is annoying and I would even say dangerous. When I got my truck I noticed myself giving more pedal off the line because it wasn’t moving right away but then I get more throttle than I wanted.
If it has the 5.7 Hemi V8 ...to make it go faster. Try changing out the stock intake to a 392 intake plus born out the head says inquire to do out the intake Plus installing two double turbos
I bought one of these for my Chevy Aveo. Now I can get tire chirp going into third gear! Very exciting
You can gear limit to keep the truck in 8cyl, gets rid of the MDS delay
are you in 4X4 or is traction control worse In the new ones? my bone stock 2016 blows the tires off if I floor it from a dead stop.
I have a 17 Laramie with a glass pack “muffler” and a K&N filter. This stuff really lets the ponies out.
Lmfao. No. No they do not
No they really don’t
I have a 2019 longhorn model with echo boost. It is stock and when I disable echo Mode by switching it to Manual, it will burn the tires off from dead stop. Not saying the mod won't help, but there was to much lag on that truck before the mod.
Ram doesn’t have a eco-boost
@@Mrad72 he said "echo-boost", he's probably just yelling in his truck bed with with a tonno cover on , it improves the echo.
My 2019 RAM 1500 V8 4x4 CCab has the same issue...a delayed response to the pedal in acceleration. Not just that, while driving, say between 40-50 and the traffic opens up and if it is a freeway, I push the pedal, not quite flooring, but I have some 2-3 seconds delay before I see the acceleration. So, as you described, will this JMS Pedal-Max do the magic trick on mine, or is it just a myth?
Also, I would like for you to make a detailed video of BorgWarner 44x44 and BorgWarner 44x45 systems of RAM and how DOdge lied to the customers on BW44x44 and calling it 4x4, which is not the case because it is a wet clutch concept. The only true 4x4 is BW44x45.
I’m sorry, I didn’t rely notice any quicker Acceleration from dead take off. I will say if your cruising at a certain speed and your in a high gear, it takes a bit for the transmission to downshift from 6or 7th gear to 3rd.
it really is noticeable from a dead stop and makes the truck a lot more responsive
It doesn't add power. It increases throttle sensetivity.
@@AndoBMS another guy did a video on how these work, basically it tells the computer to open the throttle more than stock. As far as delay, it doesn’t take it out, you just think it did bc your mind is use to the amount of power to the ratio of pedal your pushing. A guy did a video on the pedal commander and no delay was reduced, just the throttle position from stock
Great product after your recommendation after the Camaro vid I picked one up for my grand sport and wow what a difference. I skipped the knob install so it stays set on 60% automatically. Thanks for the review
Was there wheelspin afterwards? Watching the time stamp, your 0-60 is actually slower after the install.
Yeah probably what it was
And how much will this cost me to buy?
An interested effect, if you're driving, and turn this on, it feels like the throttle pedal loses resistance. It's made me hold off on a tuner/unlocked PCM package.
i just hooked this up to my truck. and my back up camera stopped working. any ideas ?
I just got my RAM 1500 yesterday, adding the pedalmax won't void warranty?????
jabojr not to my knowledge it’s plug and play you can remove it in minutes if you had to take it in for anything
just read the description on the website and it says it has a "seamless and warranty-friendly installation". gonna check it out myself
If you add a camera to watch your throttle cable and what not, all it does is open it up further faster
No throttle cables on these trucks
Keep that Hammerdown!!!! Cant wait for the mod coming on monday!
Luv this mod, definitely gonna add it on to my Rebel!! Great job again with your videos Mr Hammerdown!! Any idea if it messes with your warranty?
Thanks for watching no worries with warranty if you end up having an engine issue you can always remove it and there is no way they would know it was installed just to remove the blame game from the equation
Subbed to the channel because I love learning about mods. Looking into a 2019 limited early next year. Can the videos include if warranty is voided with each mod? That would be super helpful
Nate Skinner welcome to the channel and my plan with this build is all bolt on accessories that will have no affect on warranty, mine has a lifetime power train warranty and I’d like to keep that in tact for sure
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA awesome! I'll keep that in mind moving forward too.
Knowing FAC and the service dept if they were to find out about that mod it would indeed void the warrantee. Vehicle manufacturers these days frown upon that unless its done in house and its approved. Looks like a great mod and adds more fun!
Certian brands will throw you in limp mode.
The joy on his face haha
Seems like the same as pedal commander.
The etorque accelerate like that. I have a 19 Hemi with no e-torque and an instantly roast the tires through first and second gear
Mine is stock and will roast the tires from a stop
Same here. My '19 has no lag.
And I quote, "ROAST THE TIRES FROM A STOP."
RAM HEMI BEAST 💪🏾🙌🏾
So does my 04..
2021 ram bighorn blackout and with traction control mine will spin. with it off I can roast tires all day long
Any new mods! I appreciate your videos 🙌🏾 my new 2021 is so much fun now!
That gap between the grille and bumper i think could be fixed if you get the sports grille , not entirely sure but thats what i have heard from people who swap out for the 4th gen bumper
Love your site and have a Laramie limited 2020 because you spoke so highly and I freaking love it. What muffler do I get so it sounds like your old one?
East Texas here. 80-95% humidity at 90-105 degrees 🥵🥵🥵
I feel like this would fuck with the eTorque models since the eTorque performs the half tire rotation from a dead stop before the engine kicks in.
Thank you for the performance enhancement tip!
Question: Larger cool-air intake. Have you tested or know the impact of replacing the current air intake for a larger & cooled one on the new Ram 1500?
Lucas Beradi I haven’t got my cold air intake since it is still in development but as soon as I get it there will be a video on it should be early 2020
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA Thanks for answering!
@@YTLuc absolutely
Iv got a 2024 big horn with a 5.7 hemi. If I added this mod would it void my warranty
Hey I know this is a bit late and I’ve seen you changed trucks but I’ve wanted to know your final impressions of owning the pedal max and if I should get it installed on my truck. Does it hurt or decrease engine life in any way and is there anything I should know about. Really like the idea of reduced throttle lag because the 5.7 hemi on rams do have quite a bit delay when hitting the throttle even for 4wd so should I be fine to get it or should I not
Great video. I love my 2019 bighorn black out....I had to trade my 18 camaro as for. Worth. Needs more power. Do you have 3.21 or 3.92?
Damian Collum honestly I’d have to check my window sticker to be sure
I have a 2020 ram 1500 with 3.21 it’s fast but I drove a 2019 ram 1500 with 3.92 that shit was faster and you feel all that Hemi
many power
So I know little about this stuff but would this bypass or disable the speed limiter?
Directions say you have to unhook the battery. Did you?
WakeTheDead300 it says to but I didn’t and had no issues but do at your own risk
P'fhew' 🐃💩🧻🚽 Balmy 86°! ....ha!
And $300 for that thing? You gotta be crazy!
What did you use on that bumper?? Can you use this on the frame? I want to pre treat my frame, living in PA the salt kills these trucks! I have a brand new 21 1500 and what to protect underneath soon!
I’m curious what your peak coolant temperature got up to when you were flooring it
The drb can fix all the limitations. Take off the limiter and the rest doesn't matter.
Drb.?
Do you know if it messes with the warranty? I know a tuner does void the warranty.
This doesn’t if you take it to the dealer just pull it out takes 5 minutes
yeah... i hate that mine goes into nanny mode. My 245HP 360 Duster can easily out accelerate this 395hp thing.
k.. I'm convinced where do I get one?
Does not increase actual hp numbers whatsoever...
If you want an increase buy a supercharger nothing better then getting blown not sucked.
actually makes it 1.23seconds slower than no mod.......used a stopwatch a few times on both pulls ......that thing is a joke.
@@bryanhenry8075 hmmm not so sure about that
once the track opens again I'll do a pull with it on and one with it off
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA I take it this never happened...
Awesome performance upgrade for sure!!
How's the pedal max been? Any issues? Also does it affect the gas mileage?
It doesn't really affect gas mileage but no issues just great throttle response
What's the difference between that and pedal commander ?
I have a 2012 Power Wagon - is the PedalMax system compatible with a truck that old?
Yes they have one for that truck too
Beware of breaking a coil spring when using these.. ive also lost power while driving on the freeway. I used the pedal commander on my 2017 ram 1500 sport. Im sure this is the same.. just saying, faster acceleration isnt always good for stock. Dont get me wrong..its fun to use,just use lightly. Nobody likes a blinking check engine light.
So your 2019 won't spin the tires? V6? My 2018 5.7 will cook the tires without anything even with the "traction control " on. That doesn't work when both wheels break free off the line.
Not doubting the seat of the pants feel that is obviously better than stock by your laughter but according to the zero to 60 times on your video, they are exactly 7 seconds on the before ( 3.32 - 3.39 ), and on the after ( 9.18 - 9.25 ) so I'm wondering if this is really much of an advantage. This was a couple of years ago now so I am wondering if this has remained a good choice and would you still recommend it? I have a brand new 2021 Ram 1500 and I am considering this. Any input would be great, thanks.
I am still enjoying the pedal max if you turn it off you really see how much it does from stock
Sounds like the pedal commander
but better doesn't have that ugly control panel just a sleek level knob that's easy to put under the dash
'95 Ram is getting there. 😎
Excel video - thank you!
15 miles per gallon?
My 2021 is getting like 11.5 & that's driving the speed limit everywhere. Wonder why?
I know those are factory OEM 22 inch. But is there a name for them?
I hate that delay in my 19 big horn, my 17 rebel was instant. I wonder how your truck is now 1 year later
What is the difference between the pedal max and a pedal commander?
I hope so
so, does it just change the throttle angle ratio to the computer? So, 20% angle changes to 30% or more depending on the adjustment? WOT is still WOT or does that come on earlier too? Like a condensed angle sensor?
from what I understand it comes on faster and WOT is open more than stock
I have a 2019 Ram Classic but it’s the older body style. Will that mod work on my truck???
It's not about adding power.its about unleashing the power already there.ig you want to build a race truck have at it.its just a way to enjoy our trucks and cars.not every body is a race track roadie .
Come to Louisiana then you will know what hot weather is. 🔥😅
Jacob Sebastien I’d love to
so this is what "sport" mode does....
My pulsar keep tripping codes for my electronic throttle module and then I get no power to my wheels really until it resets .. does this mod ever have that problem ?
Contact them. It’s an issue they are having with older software. Just went through it. Throws a P2122.
Would this void the warranty?
I just got a new 2020 hemi ram and I hate the 5 mpg I get every time I step in the gas lol
So trade it in for a Prius?
Just helps w the delay but theres no HorsePower added
Which model number is it? I have a 19 ram 1500 as well and I went on the website but they have different ones.
Ron Cruz it has been quite a while since i got mine I would suggest either calling or emailing them they will make sure you get the right one
Would your recommend this one or the pedal commander
I prefer the JMS it is simple and easy to use
Whats the jms part # pedalmax with control knob included for 2020 ram laramie .
Any dyno numbers of the actual gains??
Gran Sport it doesn’t give you a gain it takes away the throttle lag but I have heard people getting better dyno numbers since the throttle opens more than stock
Oh...that makes sense.
Honestly the acceleration looked the same to me? Turn the traction control off and the limiter is turned off. It will burn the tires off the wheels.
I thought the same thing.
Great video man. I need to come up for another ride with the new mod!
JMS PedalMax is the best. Better than Pedal Commander and Sprint booster.