I don`t know about the Dodge trans of today however in 2007 I had a 4x4 dodge and it always took about a second or two for it to finally get wound up. I think it was a Dimler throw back for diesel motors.
Especially when it's not my truck. Sure I'll Rev it up and burn some tires. Who cares if I smoke the tranny and burn the torque converter? It's not my truck.
@@ms.annthrope415If it can't handle a little drag race, especially being new, they should stop making them. A drag race is nothing compared to what those trannys and torque converters go through going through mountains under load
On my 2002 Ram 2500 5.9L Diesel 4WD Quad Cab Long Box. Never dragged raced it. But that Cummings went 520k miles. That truck has pulled my Midi excavator its entire life. That's the drag race consumers are looking for, the long race.
I remember when I had a 2004 F250 SRW 6.0 PSD, 6-speed auto and an Edge Attitude tuner. It was putting down 500+HP and 800+Ft/LB. Somehow that truck was running WAY faster than what this brand new F-series is doing here with supposedly more HP and torque.
@@FlipCamFilms My Dad passed years ago, his last pickup was a 74 or 75 F-250, Pretty sure he never even imagined a truck like we have now. I think of him sometimes when I'm driving, just what would he think of a truck like this. Probably kick my ass for spending that much money!
@09dave1952 yep same my old man had a 88 250 idi. Same same curious as to what he would think of these new monsters. My 2019 350 is a workhorse, have yet to be in a situation where I would question whether or not I could move something.
That was fun! I was surprised the Ram didn't do better. I have a 2020 F-350 dually and after pulling the camper for a few days and then parking the camper, the truck is like driving a big go cart! It's amazing how something that weighs 9,000 lbs can jump up and run like that.
Seems that Stellantis has been resting on its laurels. Maybe because they are concentrating on BEV's and not upgrading their current line up frequent enough.
The HO ram tranny us a turd. The defuel between the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts kills it. The standard output engine with the 68rfe would be better for this drag race as it is the quicker of the two. The HO/aisin is great for pulling down a house though.
Wow. The Ram is so slow and the Ford is wicked fast!! I wish you guys would hook a trailer up to the trucks with …say 25,000lbs… and do drag races like the big rigs race. That would be so interesting.
I have a 2011 F250 with the 6.7L, still stock, that tows my fifth wheel just fine. However, these Fast Lane Truck guys are making me really want the new High Output 6.7!!! This channel is going to end up being hard on my wallet.
@@xcheifx1 Nah its common witth those dodge. The local shed haulers stoped using ram 3500s, as was not rare to bend the frame. Or now with the new hydraulic lifters on cummins drop a lifteralso common. So they now went all ford or Ram 5500. Ram 3500 frame bending is not a myth. In fact i was unaware of it till a shed hauler in my church had his snap in half-literally in half as he came to a stop sign. Patched it back together , and got it welded back together with reinforcements , then sold it with the quickness. 😂
Thank you for including info about rear axle ratios...had the ford been equipped with 430 gears the results would have been even more brutal. Great video
True comparison would be all three trucks with same gear ratio. What did we have, 4:10, 3:65, and 3:42 gears? Going by memory on those ratios, didn't go back and look at video...
@@boot3682 RAM has 3.50 vs Fords 4.69 ratio for the transmission makes the RAM still at a disadvantage for this test.. The transmission gearing make axle ratios moot...Transmission ratio's play a bigger roll in todays vehicles,more so than axle ratio's..Thats why the Ford takes off like that! Its not the engine,its all transmission!! True have them both 4.69 transmission 1st gear ratio and both 4.10 gearing and same weight to find a true test! Ford has the performance combo..4.69 transmission ratio for 1st gear to make it blast off the line,then 3.42's for 40 mph-top end performance! Fords 4.69 trans ratio made it leap frog off the line and the 3.42 gears help it go quicker past 40 mph,so the RAM had the disadvantage for off the line with its 3.50 1st gear and 4.10's for 40 mph -top end speed those dont help it take off or have quick times!
@@mypronouniswtf5559 the f350 in this video had 3.55 gears buddy… and it still smoked the 4.10 no problem. give the f350 4.10 gears and it would be a slaughter show
Ford was once again Fast On Race Day! Lol The power stroke was impressive ... Kept up with a 5.0 Stang up to 60 mph. Impressive. That's one fast dually!!!
They are at elevation which has a worse effect on the NA 5.0. These two vehicles aren’t even close really. Modern diesels are awesome though. Running them clean is the biggest limitation though. Not that they don’t already make over practical levels of power.
My 2017 with tune and delete is crazy considering the weight. To pass some one I only need to floor it for a few seconds and then just coast past them with all the speed its built up. And I'm only running stage 3 out of 5 with maybe a 200hp gain. Gained 100 klicks per tank too over stock.
No big surprises here, the V8’s are better at making revs and horsepower. And that Cummins is made to pull, not to mention the Aisin shifts like a dump truck “for pulling”
The V8 tows better as well moves more air at 80mph Duramax and power stroke are far superior at towing heavy in western states with high speeds and mountains
@@lamarbeachler7738you clearly don’t tow a lot. The in-line 6 is the best engine out of all of them. This isn’t an opinion, this is consensus between diesel mechanics, engineers and consumers. The V8s are more unreliable because they have more going on, the inline 6 makes torque low from the jump and is tried and true. I’m sorry but objectively you’re wrong. Prime examples the 6.0 and 6.4 DOGSHIT
@@lamarbeachler7738 and yet you still choose to be uneducated or just blind? Only thing ford has superior right now is the exhaust break and maybe the transmission, suspension, engine, reliability are all worse.
A straight 6 will deliver more torque but lack horse power. This races was designed for the V8's. For longevity, fuel mileage, and lifetime parts replacement prices, i will take the Cummins all day.
I have a F350 dually with 4.10's and its wicked fast for its size. When I come to a stop light all cars go into the other line because they think im gonna be slow pulling a camper. When I start pulling away from the pack they all pull back in line behind me. Happens at every stop light.
I like both Ford and GM, both are truly fantastic trucks but we knew going in that Ford had a huge advantage with it's almost 300 foot pounds torque more and a bit more horsepower as well
In the 2020-22 ford superduty trucks if you push the traction control button 2x you get a sport mode. Is that still a thing on these? It changes the shifts a bit and does make it feel a little faster.
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Roman, you didn't have your mirrors in for the 2nd and 3rd race, plus if you didn't allow for a complete cool down after smoking the Cummins, you were at a distinct disadvantage racing the Ford that had been cooling it on the sidelines. 🤔
Only 3 things I care about from my Ford F250 6.7 diesel: be dependable, durable, and reliable. I don't care if another brand can tow 2 seconds faster or even 5 seconds faster. I don't care if one brand rate their carrying capacity 500 pounds more. I don't care if one brand can run the 1/4 mile 25 mph faster. I want to start every time, not break down, not be a service bay queen, be dependable, and work to get me there and get me back. Work for a couple of hundred thousand miles with some care and maintenance. Get me to the blistering hot desert, carry me across the frozen winter, and not leave me stranded.
@@Glibzern this case it partially is. In that, Ram is owned by stellantis & they’re going to have the final say on what powertrain is in that ram truck. You can bet that FCA/RAM/Stellantis & the competition with gm & ford is why there’s even a 420hp/1075tq rated Cummins engine available. Cummins is content with keeping the non-Ram B6.7 @ 325/750. Personally, I think the ram is fine for actually doing the work, other than they need to get away from the 2 different power/transmission ratings on the diesel. I do think the I6 will benefit from an upgraded transmission (8-10 speed) as well.
Would have been faster without that heavy panoramic moonroof and heavy power running boards. Would love to see a light weight high output STX run the quarter mile.
My 2017 RAM 3500 HO feels like it doesn't have full power until 3rd gear. But when I'm pulling a 5th wheel, it feels like the power is there from the get go. I figured RAM limited the power from take off when empty.
I would be willing to bet the I6 will be around long after the v8 diesels are dead. I do admit in stock form the v8 diesels are fast. Cummins a hell of a lot better for heavy loads.
@mikecarmean1676 yes, very reliable. My uncle used his in his logging business & if you know anything about logging they are extremely rough on equipment, but the old Cummins held up.
There are so many factors involved here. How fast the transmission puts power to ground, axle ratio, percentage of total engine output being used and how warm the engines were because diesels have way less power when cold.
@@MrTruckTV yes sir completely understand you're the only one to pull off the shirt on the channel because your knowledge of these American built rigs speaks volumes in the truck community
500hp is insane! Sure on a hellcat or mustang but you gotta consider this trucks supposed to last 300k miles. 500hp and supposed to last 300k miles is unreal! I hope so, but we’ll see.
Poor ram, the aisin needs to go. I'm on my second one and I'll probably get a super duty if ram doesn't make a trans change for 24. The truck is very underwhelming to drive. Thanks for the video! I love these!
I have 13 rams with that transmission i feel the same way, although i put a pedal commander in my truck and omg did it wake it up. Fun to drive now no turbo lag and i cant believe how restricted that pedal is before i added it. Doesn't add any more power but for 300 bucks it was so worth it
While not serving any real practical purpose, insomuch as how these truck are used in real life, I have to admit it was FUN! Actually all three of these trucks are solid. Kind of comes down to individual preference. Good video boys!
Now it's time to do a drag against the half ton vs 1 ton trucks comparison between the big 3. Which pickup will win the match, gas or diesel, half ton or 1 ton, only the drag strip will tell that tail.
Yeah my brother-in-law has been driving ram and now it's switching to Ford , 23 model. My buddy bought a 2019 ram and with less than 30,000 miles drover for about 3,000 and the transmission went out. But the interior on the new Dodge's are amazing and they look really good fixed up
My Duramax roasts the tires at 45 mph when pulling a trailer sometimes. I thought the transmission was slipping but was just the tires breaking loose and the traction control kicking in
The problem with these high powered truck are some of their owners. They will pass you towing a trailer doing 80+ mph which isn’t safe at all. But these new trucks have so much power they can easily tow a 10K load at that speed forgetting the trailer’s tires (and sometimes the trailer) isn’t designed for sustained high speed cruising.
100% true! Trailer tires, especially RV tires, are designed for 55 mph, which, incidentally, is where these trucks get their best fuel economy. My Ram gets around 20 mpg at 55 mph (with a high top camper shell and about 500 lbs in it). If I go 70, I get around 15 mpg. That means 150 miles further on EVERY TANK of fuel! Pulling our little 7500 lb travel trailer, I have no trouble accelerating up any hill with the Cummins, and we average around 16 mpg. Never been inclined to drag race, so just prefer the mileage and the longevity and reliability of the Cummins (plus, it's a more comfortable truck)
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I stopped it at :34 to comment that our 2007 Freightliner Cascadia (Cat Power!) runs mid 14's at 76 mph. All stock and very tired. But she's a workhorse. I hope I beat at least one of these guys.
I think the gear ratio definitely has a something to do with it. 4.10 ratio is really good for for pulling heavy loads. I really want to see this pulling 25,000 pounds and see who wins! Great video!
A detune truck will usually outlast a truck that has added power to them.Most people that buy diesels dont buy them to drag race but for pulling and safely go downhills . All 3 trucks can pull 31000 no problem, but the question is how well does it hold the load back downhill. I've pulled with all three hauling over 25k, and the ram has best exhuast brakes and was most comfortable pulling heavy loads. You should do a 31000 down hill exhuast brake and see who touches there break the least and maintain a certain speed down Ike gauntlet.
The rear diff ratio was a large cause of differences in speed/acceleration. It's probably not worth it, but is a tow drag race worth the time? Maybe a tractor pull? 4/11 gears is more about getting heavy loads moving, and keeping them moving up steep inclines.
Great Video! I can see why you did not show the Ford vs Ram! So much for a Cummins . . Always wondered why Ram drivers pack a lunch and take a lantern even for short trips vs a Ford driver.
Great video! I loved it! YOU HAD TO REMIND ME! so back in 1978 before I overhauled my 327 2v Low compression heads in the 1967 camaro That was BLOWING oil and smoke Sooooo bad after 100miles I had to clean 4 spark plugs if i ran it hard. So at the 1/4 it ran a 16.75 E.T. Yeah! so Your Brand New HEAVY 7500lbs, Trucks did PRETTY WELL
It's all about the power-to-weight ratio. A Go-Kart with a Suzuki Hayabusa engine would be even faster with a mere 130 hp...despite not having 700+ foot pounds of torque and 400 + hp horsepower. I think people have a hard time understanding that simple principle. But if I was hauling a fifth-wheel around, I would want a Ford. If I wanted comfort and styling, I would take the Chevy or the GMC equivalent. If I wanted to go pick up one single bag of groceries at Walmart, get the Dodge.
Im not sure about the chevy but the stated towing capacities for the ford and the ram are well under their tow ratings for these trucks in these configurations.
The Ford also has that heavy panoramic moonroof and power running boards. We have known since last generation that the panoramic moonroof slows the Ford by .3 in the quarter mile. Without the weight of the panoramic roof and power running boards, that Ford would have run high 14's.
It's not the transmission. The V8 diesels are just faster. The Cummins is massively detuned from the factory due to emissions. The pedal won't let you go faster after a certain point
YUP! Let's do a LOADED 30,000 lbs worth of trailer and cargo drag race between all the trucks! Use a typical low bed goose neck trailer with MANY thousands of pounds worth of sandbags to make the combined trailer and cargo weight equal a full 30,000 lbs! Now THAT would be a dually HD truck test to write home about! V
There is a Cummins swapped Mustang. Think he built another with a big block too. Westin Champlin if you look him up on here he has a late model Mustang he put a Cummins in and pretty sure he put a blown or turbo big block Chevy in another
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If trucks were meant to drag race they would not be shaped like a brick 🧱
I don`t know about the Dodge trans of today however in 2007 I had a 4x4 dodge and it always took about a second or two for it to finally get wound up. I think it was a Dimler throw back for diesel motors.
Buck Fords😢
The only thing they are racing for is to be #1 in recalls. Ford 8 million recalls. Dodge and Chevy 3 million recalls each
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That F350 Super Duty HD Duelly doing a 15 second quarter is insane !
A dozenor so years back a race tuned 6.0 powerstroke was good for mid to low 14s. The new trucks are pretty quick stock.
Those '90s Dodge trucks 12 valve turbo Cummins would scoot around the 15/16 sec time
They are probably at a million ft above sea level too as usual
1,200 foot pounds of torque will do that
Makes me wonder if the 4.30 final drive in the F450 is enough to overcome the additional weight and allow it to keep up with the F350.
I love this channel. Who else is racing brand new Dually trucks? Well done gentleman.
Thanks for the kind words!
Especially when it's not my truck. Sure I'll Rev it up and burn some tires. Who cares if I smoke the tranny and burn the torque converter? It's not my truck.
@@ms.annthrope415If it can't handle a little drag race, especially being new, they should stop making them. A drag race is nothing compared to what those trannys and torque converters go through going through mountains under load
Would love to see a drag race with loaded trailers
Lol every one of them...
Would end up with CELs 😂
10,000 lb trailer and they hit over 80mph in 1/8th mile
The Ike is pretty much that
1000% just like how motor trend used to do with diesel power challenge!
Let's see it TFL
0-60 in 25 seconds 😂
On my 2002 Ram 2500 5.9L Diesel 4WD Quad Cab Long Box. Never dragged raced it. But that Cummings went 520k miles. That truck has pulled my Midi excavator its entire life. That's the drag race consumers are looking for, the long race.
It's not a Cummings. It's Cummins "ins" not "ings"
Because it's a ram. Fiat,Mopar junk is garbage.
@@jasonmorrell301what do you drive?
@@Wilderbliss17 his mom's Toyota. Ignorant troll he is
I know where there is 93 F250 with 923k miles still going strong just burns oil. All original miles.
The drag race we never knew we needed 😂
No. I knew I needed this
Watch 2017 diesel power truck challenge, drag race with a 10,000 lb trailer and they hit over 80mph in 1/8th mile. Ridiculous
The Cummins straight 6 has never been able to keep up with the V8's off the line. Fortunately, in real world conditions that does not matter.
@@SuperSnakePlisskenyeah haha that’s funny
Says who?
I was worried about Tommy's Coyote for a second😂. That F350 HO moves on!
Thats not a coyote
It's amazing how fast these big trucks have gotten. Granddaddy would freak out!!!
I’m always thinking that when driving my dually
Actually kind of scary 😂
I remember when I had a 2004 F250 SRW 6.0 PSD, 6-speed auto and an Edge Attitude tuner. It was putting down 500+HP and 800+Ft/LB. Somehow that truck was running WAY faster than what this brand new F-series is doing here with supposedly more HP and torque.
@@FlipCamFilms My Dad passed years ago, his last pickup was a 74 or 75 F-250, Pretty sure he never even imagined a truck like we have now. I think of him sometimes when I'm driving, just what would he think of a truck like this. Probably kick my ass for spending that much money!
@09dave1952 yep same my old man had a 88 250 idi. Same same curious as to what he would think of these new monsters. My 2019 350 is a workhorse, have yet to be in a situation where I would question whether or not I could move something.
That was fun! I was surprised the Ram didn't do better. I have a 2020 F-350 dually and after pulling the camper for a few days and then parking the camper, the truck is like driving a big go cart! It's amazing how something that weighs 9,000 lbs can jump up and run like that.
Seems that Stellantis has been resting on its laurels. Maybe because they are concentrating on BEV's and not upgrading their current line up frequent enough.
The Ram has a useless transmission that really has zero business being in any vehicle at this point.
The HO ram tranny us a turd. The defuel between the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts kills it. The standard output engine with the 68rfe would be better for this drag race as it is the quicker of the two. The HO/aisin is great for pulling down a house though.
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Ehoubgh said. I. Have 2007 5.9 that. Will out perform you all
Wow. The Ram is so slow and the Ford is wicked fast!!
I wish you guys would hook a trailer up to the trucks with …say 25,000lbs… and do drag races like the big rigs race. That would be so interesting.
It would probably be the same outcome.
I'm more concerned which one is going to last the longest.
@@windrider65 yeah that’s why I am still driving a ram mega. I have had fords and got tired of the issues with the motor
Well that ford's gonna fall apart as fast as it launched off the line.
@@windrider65 when it comes to diesels, NONE of them are more reliable than the other
@@thevenom4634
Yes of course they are (pat on head) now run along and play.
I have a 2011 F250 with the 6.7L, still stock, that tows my fifth wheel just fine. However, these Fast Lane Truck guys are making me really want the new High Output 6.7!!! This channel is going to end up being hard on my wallet.
The either of the new 6.7s will spin all 4 in a 250. Wouldn't be surprised if the H.O can get a Drw to spin em.
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HO are reportedly throwing rods out the block
You can see just how fast those V8s are, while the Ol’ trusty inline 6 Cummins is totally fine just being a tractor.
As long as the frame doesn't bend!
@timcheek5134 oh stop it the guy who bent the frame over l9aded the truck for more then 25,000 miles you goon
Google Ford dually with camper bends frame, pics out there
@@xcheifx1 Nah its common witth those dodge. The local shed haulers stoped using ram 3500s, as was not rare to bend the frame. Or now with the new hydraulic lifters on cummins drop a lifteralso common. So they now went all ford or Ram 5500. Ram 3500 frame bending is not a myth. In fact i was unaware of it till a shed hauler in my church had his snap in half-literally in half as he came to a stop sign. Patched it back together , and got it welded back together with reinforcements , then sold it with the quickness. 😂
The issue is the transmission. A 6 speed vs 10 speeds.
This will help 0 people choose which dually to purchase, but was 100% entertaining. Keep up the great content 💪
He blacked it out and put 37s on it
Sure will embarrass the fast and furious noisy rice rocket, though.
You must not have noticed how many people nowadays buy these trucks to be fashion statements driven around empty all the time.
I think not, most of these newer trucks aren’t even purchased to work anything more than a half ton can do, it’s a look at me statement.
@@RiggyRonniejust cause you can doesn’t mean you should a half ton won’t last you long towing
Roman half a second after the race starts: “Oh it’s close!” 😂
Ford puts a bus on him “it’s close” 😂
Thank you for including info about rear axle ratios...had the ford been equipped with 430 gears the results would have been even more brutal. Great video
Or even with 3.73......
True comparison would be all three trucks with same gear ratio. What did we have, 4:10, 3:65, and 3:42 gears? Going by memory on those ratios, didn't go back and look at video...
@@boot3682 RAM has 3.50 vs Fords 4.69 ratio for the transmission makes the RAM still at a disadvantage for this test..
The transmission gearing make axle ratios moot...Transmission ratio's play a bigger roll in todays vehicles,more so than axle ratio's..Thats why the Ford takes off like that! Its not the engine,its all transmission!! True have them both 4.69 transmission 1st gear ratio and both 4.10 gearing and same weight to find a true test!
Ford has the performance combo..4.69 transmission ratio for 1st gear to make it blast off the line,then 3.42's for 40 mph-top end performance!
Fords 4.69 trans ratio made it leap frog off the line and the 3.42 gears help it go quicker past 40 mph,so the RAM had the disadvantage for off the line with its 3.50 1st gear and 4.10's for 40 mph -top end speed those dont help it take off or have quick times!
@@mypronouniswtf5559 the f350 in this video had 3.55 gears buddy… and it still smoked the 4.10 no problem. give the f350 4.10 gears and it would be a slaughter show
@@mypronouniswtf5559my fault i read that wrong, i apologize haha
The torque of the Powerstroke is amazing
Yo mama said that to me too
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@@sothickitssickkWhat are you 13?
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It will blow up first.
Ford was once again Fast On Race Day! Lol
The power stroke was impressive ... Kept up with a 5.0 Stang up to 60 mph. Impressive.
That's one fast dually!!!
What r u saying bro doesn’t know what he’s talking about
That Ram is a turtle with wheels!!😢🐢
Unloaded, yes. But with 30,000 lbs or 15,000 lbs of trailer? The Ram's gearing will get rolling first.
No, my 1996 f350 7.3 is a turtle.. lol but it's been paid off over 22 years .still pulls fine.
Well it is a 370 hp inline 6 being compared to 400 hp v8s its a little different tuned and deleted
Blown away how the Ford350 kept up with the 5.0 for a short while. NEVER saw that coming! Now I understand all the hype with the 6.7L Diesel Tuners.
They are at elevation which has a worse effect on the NA 5.0. These two vehicles aren’t even close really. Modern diesels are awesome though. Running them clean is the biggest limitation though. Not that they don’t already make over practical levels of power.
My 2017 with tune and delete is crazy considering the weight. To pass some one I only need to floor it for a few seconds and then just coast past them with all the speed its built up. And I'm only running stage 3 out of 5 with maybe a 200hp gain. Gained 100 klicks per tank too over stock.
Im new to trucks and diesel and my f250 got bawlz! 😂
No big surprises here, the V8’s are better at making revs and horsepower. And that Cummins is made to pull, not to mention the Aisin shifts like a dump truck “for pulling”
The V8 tows better as well moves more air at 80mph Duramax and power stroke are far superior at towing heavy in western states with high speeds and mountains
6 speed vs 10 speed, 10 speed will always pull way harder
@@lamarbeachler7738you clearly don’t tow a lot. The in-line 6 is the best engine out of all of them. This isn’t an opinion, this is consensus between diesel mechanics, engineers and consumers. The V8s are more unreliable because they have more going on, the inline 6 makes torque low from the jump and is tried and true. I’m sorry but objectively you’re wrong. Prime examples the 6.0 and 6.4 DOGSHIT
@@bobbythomas6520 I tow 80,000 miles a year in the mountains used to average 120,000 year as a hot shotter towing 35-55,000lbs
@@lamarbeachler7738 and yet you still choose to be uneducated or just blind? Only thing ford has superior right now is the exhaust break and maybe the transmission, suspension, engine, reliability are all worse.
My favorite was your Mustang versus F350, shocking!
I wanna see the ford race the dodge, just for comedic purposes. Lol
Same. They should have just did a 3 wide race for perspective.
😂 same here
I'll sign that petition lol
@@BlackpowderBBQ might as well say it's not all Ram since the engine isn't made by them
@BlackpowderBBQ I know. Dodge can't make shit on their own just like viper engine that was dodge but put together by lamborghini
It would be very cool to see the standard output Powerstroke vs. new Duramax! Can you set that up
I'd like to see the standard output Powerstroke race a high output Powerstroke to see how much difference their really is.
I absolutely love my '22 Ram 3500, but the performance is sub par compared to the V8 rigs BY FAR. The new Ford looks to be pretty impressive.
The Straight 6 will out last a V8 in durability
A straight 6 will deliver more torque but lack horse power. This races was designed for the V8's. For longevity, fuel mileage, and lifetime parts replacement prices, i will take the Cummins all day.
@@Mantis858585🎉
Tune it. It's a whole new animal
Just need to tune it to let out the true potential. My 19 Ram on a tow tune will pull on a 22 f250 with a performance tune.
I have a F350 dually with 4.10's and its wicked fast for its size. When I come to a stop light all cars go into the other line because they think im gonna be slow pulling a camper. When I start pulling away from the pack they all pull back in line behind me. Happens at every stop light.
You're awesome. I wish I was you
@@jeffreyrogers8151 Yeah, I dont blame you.
I like both Ford and GM, both are truly fantastic trucks but we knew going in that Ford had a huge advantage with it's almost 300 foot pounds torque more and a bit more horsepower as well
In the 2020-22 ford superduty trucks if you push the traction control button 2x you get a sport mode. Is that still a thing on these? It changes the shifts a bit and does make it feel a little faster.
No they got rid of that for this model year sadly
This race needs to be done, but when all three vehicles have 200,000 miles on them. See how much they hold up.
@@timstappler5522are you high? These have the worst quality objectively. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Dodge would call in sick due to having its second transmission implode.
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Roman, you didn't have your mirrors in for the 2nd and 3rd race, plus if you didn't allow for a complete cool down after smoking the Cummins, you were at a distinct disadvantage racing the Ford that had been cooling it on the sidelines. 🤔
It's just slower dude accept it. When it comes to trucks Ford is the best.
Only 3 things I care about from my Ford F250 6.7 diesel: be dependable, durable, and reliable. I don't care if another brand can tow 2 seconds faster or even 5 seconds faster. I don't care if one brand rate their carrying capacity 500 pounds more. I don't care if one brand can run the 1/4 mile 25 mph faster.
I want to start every time, not break down, not be a service bay queen, be dependable, and work to get me there and get me back. Work for a couple of hundred thousand miles with some care and maintenance. Get me to the blistering hot desert, carry me across the frozen winter, and not leave me stranded.
Couldn’t have said it better. I don’t care if it’s the ugliest piece of shit. Just has to be reliable and capable.
This is like seeing which exotic Italian car is better off road. Fun to watch nonetheless haha!
Correct me if I’m wrong here but didn’t gm and ford collaborate on fords new 10 speed trans?
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Shows that Stellantis needs to update their power train game across their entire line up.
Cummins isnt stellantis
@@Glibzern this case it partially is. In that, Ram is owned by stellantis & they’re going to have the final say on what powertrain is in that ram truck. You can bet that FCA/RAM/Stellantis & the competition with gm & ford is why there’s even a 420hp/1075tq rated Cummins engine available. Cummins is content with keeping the non-Ram B6.7 @ 325/750.
Personally, I think the ram is fine for actually doing the work, other than they need to get away from the 2 different power/transmission ratings on the diesel. I do think the I6 will benefit from an upgraded transmission (8-10 speed) as well.
Never knew I need HD races, but I see I do. Keep bring Mr. Truck with y'all.
Thanks
It would be interesting to see ford's 6.7 regular and high output up against eachother
Agreed cause the regular 6.7 10 speeds rip lol
Fun!
…but which gets the best mpg unladen, max carrying, max towing?
The Ford would've been even faster with the optional 4.10 gears
You think? It would've run out of breath sooner. It would've helped in the 8th but the quarter would probably be slower.
I dunno with a 10 speed.. My HD van basically is wasting fuel in 1st gear because it's geared so low. It really catches it's groove in 3rd (1:1).
Would have been faster without that heavy panoramic moonroof and heavy power running boards. Would love to see a light weight high output STX run the quarter mile.
The Ford would have gone even faster with a better driver. Love Mr. Truck but his reflexes aren't what they use to be.
The duramax had a 3.42…. Of course it’s faster.
I remember what a diesel tuner show on TLC or discovery back in early 2000s. Some of those trucks were just getting over 1000lbs/ft of torque.
My 2017 RAM 3500 HO feels like it doesn't have full power until 3rd gear. But when I'm pulling a 5th wheel, it feels like the power is there from the get go. I figured RAM limited the power from take off when empty.
What does it feel like to own a turd?
I would be willing to bet the I6 will be around long after the v8 diesels are dead. I do admit in stock form the v8 diesels are fast. Cummins a hell of a lot better for heavy loads.
I have no need for a truck like this, but it was entertaining to watch. That Ford is impressive for a truck that size.
Fun times! The Ram is slow in comparison. Funny though it's not really slow just crazy how far trucks have come
Yes, my uncle had a 1990 3500 Dodge Cummings "1st gen" & that th8ng was so slow it wouldn't hardly get out of its own way.
@@scottyellis3442 🤣 reliable though!
@mikecarmean1676 yes, very reliable. My uncle used his in his logging business & if you know anything about logging they are extremely rough on equipment, but the old Cummins held up.
The first gens with auto trans were horrifically slow. The 5 speed getrag wasnt to bad, especially when you turned the power screw up. :)
6:17 Is that the engine brake activating the brake lights?
So much fun. Love the drag races. Thanks guys
That Ford is a beast! The Chevy is pretty quick too.
But they don't have Cummins engines, which are best for those of us who didn't buy our HD trucks for drag racing!
There are so many factors involved here. How fast the transmission puts power to ground, axle ratio, percentage of total engine output being used and how warm the engines were because diesels have way less power when cold.
Yup, you sure are right about that.
So wouldn’t that make the Chevy more warm than the ford?
Why don't you guys do boosted launches?
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Thanks, it's the week of the 4th
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@@kingshawn1857 Thanks
@@MrTruckTV no problem and hey thanks for replying
500hp is insane! Sure on a hellcat or mustang but you gotta consider this trucks supposed to last 300k miles. 500hp and supposed to last 300k miles is unreal! I hope so, but we’ll see.
The type of drag racing carwow can only dream about. ❤️
The 410 Ram vs 342 is not apples to apples
Poor ram, the aisin needs to go. I'm on my second one and I'll probably get a super duty if ram doesn't make a trans change for 24. The truck is very underwhelming to drive.
Thanks for the video! I love these!
I have 13 rams with that transmission i feel the same way, although i put a pedal commander in my truck and omg did it wake it up. Fun to drive now no turbo lag and i cant believe how restricted that pedal is before i added it. Doesn't add any more power but for 300 bucks it was so worth it
Ive been seeing people get low 7 second o-60 with a 4x4 HO Powerstroke Dually with 4.10 gears.
They ALL are beasts. Really depends on what brand you like.
While not serving any real practical purpose, insomuch as how these truck are used in real life, I have to admit it was FUN! Actually all three of these trucks are solid. Kind of comes down to individual preference. Good video boys!
AMAZING VIDEO. NICE TO SEE MR TRUCK BACK. WAY TO GO FORD. I BLEED BLUE.😀
What happened to the ultimate Ike gauntlet videos? The 35,000lb towing tests, those were the best.
Really fun. Great presentation and interesting to see how fast the new Ford dually is for an overweight monster :-).
Now it's time to do a drag against the half ton vs 1 ton trucks comparison between the big 3. Which pickup will win the match, gas or diesel, half ton or 1 ton, only the drag strip will tell that tail.
Still wanting to see the towing test with the 21+ HO Cummins since they upped the power again 🙏
that was the new high output
Won’t matter that shitty 68rfe will blow to shit towing
@@hunterdoncanady I repeat, I want to see the TOWING test with the new High output
@@toofastnobrakes It can barely tow itself.
I can't believe that a huge a$$ super duty is only .8 seconds slower than a Mustang GT. I love it
Great Entertainment!!, Thank You fellows., I felt embarrassed for the RAM though😣😣
Yeah my brother-in-law has been driving ram and now it's switching to Ford , 23 model. My buddy bought a 2019 ram and with less than 30,000 miles drover for about 3,000 and the transmission went out. But the interior on the new Dodge's are amazing and they look really good fixed up
I’m a Chevy guy but why you would be embarrassed these trucks are made for pulling not racing
My Duramax roasts the tires at 45 mph when pulling a trailer sometimes. I thought the transmission was slipping but was just the tires breaking loose and the traction control kicking in
These drag races are so much fun to watch. I am not a "Ram guy", but I love that Cummins inline 6.
It is one of the most capable engines ever made. I wonder what this race would look like if they were all towing a trailer.
@230k19 the ford would still win by far
@@230k19lol most Capable. NOT
The one and only good thing Dodge is that a completely different company made their motor!
@@Meeksballs in house is always better
The problem with these high powered truck are some of their owners. They will pass you towing a trailer doing 80+ mph which isn’t safe at all. But these new trucks have so much power they can easily tow a 10K load at that speed forgetting the trailer’s tires (and sometimes the trailer) isn’t designed for sustained high speed cruising.
100% true! Trailer tires, especially RV tires, are designed for 55 mph, which, incidentally, is where these trucks get their best fuel economy. My Ram gets around 20 mpg at 55 mph (with a high top camper shell and about 500 lbs in it). If I go 70, I get around 15 mpg. That means 150 miles further on EVERY TANK of fuel!
Pulling our little 7500 lb travel trailer, I have no trouble accelerating up any hill with the Cummins, and we average around 16 mpg.
Never been inclined to drag race, so just prefer the mileage and the longevity and reliability
of the Cummins (plus, it's a more comfortable truck)
I wonder if the speed limiter is kicking in at 90 mph on these trucks.
Ive had several power strokes. Love em ..
Did you put the F350 on sport mode?
Imagine a tune that doesn’t limit torque in the ford 👌
Axle would split in half
Lots of broken parts
Lol yes no torque control and towing 15 tons 👎
They are basically tuned from the factory now. But it's always fun to really push them to the limits. Expense, though.
Stock Trans can't only handle so much torque, trust me....
I would like to know how many miles were on each truck.
I am a GM guy but kudos to Ford on this one. I actually think all 3 are pretty awesome trucks.
You should be ashamed to admit that GM builds the worst garbage out there
It would be interesting to know the as tested weight of each truck.
Tow drag test ?
Old TFL is back...Do the dual tow MPG runs with them big boys
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I stopped it at :34 to comment that our 2007 Freightliner Cascadia (Cat Power!) runs mid 14's at 76 mph. All stock and very tired. But she's a workhorse. I hope I beat at least one of these guys.
I think the gear ratio definitely has a something to do with it.
4.10 ratio is really good for for pulling heavy loads.
I really want to see this pulling 25,000 pounds and see who wins!
Great video!
I would imagine that the outcome would be the same but they would all be equally slower
Yep. 4.10 would be what I preferred in a dully. Just saying.
A detune truck will usually outlast a truck that has added power to them.Most people that buy diesels dont buy them to drag race but for pulling and safely go downhills . All 3 trucks can pull 31000 no problem, but the question is how well does it hold the load back downhill.
I've pulled with all three hauling over 25k, and the ram has best exhuast brakes and was most comfortable pulling heavy loads. You should do a 31000 down hill exhuast brake and see who touches there break the least and maintain a certain speed down Ike gauntlet.
That's a hat-trick, spelling "touché there break" all wrong
The rear diff ratio was a large cause of differences in speed/acceleration. It's probably not worth it, but is a tow drag race worth the time? Maybe a tractor pull? 4/11 gears is more about getting heavy loads moving, and keeping them moving up steep inclines.
Glad to see somebody comment that understands this... 👍
Super happy about my 2023 HO powerstroke purchase!
I wonder which is holding the Ram back. The engine or the transmission having 4 less gears?
Great Video! I can see why you did not show the Ford vs Ram! So much for a Cummins . . Always wondered why Ram drivers pack a lunch and take a lantern even for short trips vs a Ford driver.
The ram junk dodge couldnt beat the chevrolet whats the point.
What’s the gear ratio in each truck?
This is like the great value top gear
I think this stuff is great and it's not staged. Not that there's anything wrong with Top Gear being staged but it was definitely staged.
Great video! I loved it! YOU HAD TO REMIND ME! so back in 1978 before I overhauled my 327 2v Low compression heads in the 1967 camaro That was BLOWING oil and smoke Sooooo bad after 100miles I had to clean 4 spark plugs if i ran it hard. So at the 1/4 it ran a 16.75 E.T. Yeah! so Your Brand New HEAVY 7500lbs, Trucks did PRETTY WELL
Love this!!! Great guys, as always, keep up for good work.
It's all about the power-to-weight ratio.
A Go-Kart with a Suzuki Hayabusa engine would be even faster with a mere 130 hp...despite not having 700+ foot pounds of torque and 400 + hp horsepower.
I think people have a hard time understanding that simple principle.
But if I was hauling a fifth-wheel around, I would want a Ford.
If I wanted comfort and styling, I would take the Chevy or the GMC equivalent.
If I wanted to go pick up one single bag of groceries at Walmart, get the Dodge.
15.5 out of the box is crazy
At huge altitude too !!
Im not sure about the chevy but the stated towing capacities for the ford and the ram are well under their tow ratings for these trucks in these configurations.
Dang. My duramax is fast. Never raced a ford though. Good job fellas.
GM products are garbage
I’ll never be a Ford guy but in stock form that thing is pretty bad to the bone!!! Great video guys!!
I never dreamed a Powerstroke would out run a duramax.
And that's with ford having torque management 1-3 gears and ford would be even faster if it had the 4.10
The Ford also has that heavy panoramic moonroof and power running boards. We have known since last generation that the panoramic moonroof slows the Ford by .3 in the quarter mile. Without the weight of the panoramic roof and power running boards, that Ford would have run high 14's.
Be good to see these three do a heat tow test in phx pulling the hills up to payson az I think the heat will effect them greatly
The 6 speed killed that Ram
They’re still using the 6 speed?? 🤦♂️
Agree with the 6 speed is a killer . also Ram has little horsepower to carry the load after the engine passes it peak torque.
Exactly. This is just as dumb as the first time they did it.
It's not the transmission. The V8 diesels are just faster. The Cummins is massively detuned from the factory due to emissions. The pedal won't let you go faster after a certain point
I don't know why Dodge doesn't use Allison transmissions! They don't make their own motor why would they make your own transmission
YUP! Let's do a LOADED 30,000 lbs worth of trailer and cargo drag race between all the trucks! Use a typical low bed goose neck trailer with MANY thousands of pounds worth of sandbags to make the combined trailer and cargo weight equal a full 30,000 lbs!
Now THAT would be a dually HD truck test to write home about!
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Obviously we need a 6.7 power stroke Mustang.... Let the transplant begin!
There is a Cummins swapped Mustang. Think he built another with a big block too. Westin Champlin if you look him up on here he has a late model Mustang he put a Cummins in and pretty sure he put a blown or turbo big block Chevy in another
@@JesseLJohnson cool thanks!
3:57 Andre is in a different zip code... LOL .hahahahha made my day
It was different area code 😂
I'd really like to see a test between a F150 Ecoboost vs that F350
the 350 would get demolished mostly because of weight the difference is about 1500 pounds
The most American Drag race I've ever seen 😂
I'll take one of each, please.. 😊