How GOOD was Greninja ACTUALLY? - History of Greninja in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 6-7)

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  • @FalseSwipeGaming
    @FalseSwipeGaming  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3153

    The Patreon backers are crazy. We probably won't do more Gen 6+ Pokemon for a while. We still have to get through the first 5!

    • @Wolfism
      @Wolfism 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      False Swipe Gaming please False Swipe, cover the rest of the Kanto Pokemon 🙏🏻💫

    • @Gaurang_Karande
      @Gaurang_Karande 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      What about Gen 1 👌😲

    • @VoidDWG
      @VoidDWG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Man, I'm glad really liking these thiccc ass videos man. Thank you.

    • @nsbathome
      @nsbathome 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Watch them pick Toxapex or Zygarde

    • @shawnli4746
      @shawnli4746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Can see Mascot Aegislash get in after a few months.

  • @deltalord6969
    @deltalord6969 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7752

    When the pokemon only existed for two generations but the video is almost a half an hour long you know its amazing.

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +296

      and half of it's life was relegated to set hazards in ubers
      so I'd say it's more generation and a half

    • @leonardofarias8843
      @leonardofarias8843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +175

      All thanks to Protean and a exclusive upgrade form

    • @CryoJnik
      @CryoJnik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Or ridiculously busted

    • @gabrieldiniz8371
      @gabrieldiniz8371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      It’s because of a magical word
      FAVOURITISM

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      Landorus t is 3 gens and it'll have 2 hours

  • @caldw615
    @caldw615 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2912

    Quickest match I ever had was with a Greninja. Opponent was using an Alolan Golem to start off and I sent out Greninja. I used Spikes which changed Gren to ground while Golem used Explosion with its ability turning it into an electric move, which Greninja survived due to changing to a ground type while Golem fainted. The other player disconnected straight after that.

    • @sarmilaacharya318
      @sarmilaacharya318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +215

      What a coincidence.

    • @mr.preston1632
      @mr.preston1632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +185

      That’s a Galaxy brain move

    • @alokrath9330
      @alokrath9330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      Mind size:
      MEGA

    • @octocoro
      @octocoro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      Yeah, this is big brain time

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@alokrath9330 the opponent: F-MEGA

  • @petelee2477
    @petelee2477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2366

    Lol I love how the OU council freaked out when Greninja learned how to throw a trash can

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ARTEM DORDZHIEV hihihihihihihihihihihihihihihihh

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hihihihihihihih

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hihihi

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Hi

    • @f.r.8909
      @f.r.8909 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi

  • @AtChiaPet
    @AtChiaPet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3436

    Remember when people wanted Ash-Greninja gone from Gen 7?
    _Then Dracovish came in_

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +488

      As overpowered as Dracovish is, I don't hate it for that, cuz I can predict it'll be nerfed to oblivion in gen 9 like it happened to Gengar and Talonlame.

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +330

      Rev up the Seismitoads. We've got a Dracovish to handle.

    • @pissmaster8859
      @pissmaster8859 4 ปีที่แล้ว +384

      Ash-Gren actually has a moveset, Dracovish has one move it can click and profit, it makes me lose braincells

    • @_dave4681
      @_dave4681 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Isn't Dracovish UUBL?

    • @thom9910
      @thom9910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      We don't speak of he who must not be named

  • @wideMac7
    @wideMac7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4020

    Gen 6 it was banned for being too good. In Gen 7 it gets even better but isn’t banned. Thank you power creep very cool

    • @sebas8225
      @sebas8225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      Protean is broken, pls ban.

    • @elvgamez3864
      @elvgamez3864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +316

      Imagine if gamefreak treated battle bond evolution like mega evolution cuz if they did they could just give ash-greninja protean cuz that’s how most mégas work like how venusaur starts with chlorophyll and gets thick fat after mega that would be so broken a protean 640 base stat total mon

    • @Darkstormsun9865
      @Darkstormsun9865 4 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      @@elvgamez3864 if it worked like a mega then it would actually stand a chance in ubers.

    • @coolyeh1017
      @coolyeh1017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      @@sebas8225 and then they gave Libero to Cinderace, granted, Cinderace isn't as good as Greninja. Cinderace has two solid signature moves, pyro ball a physical fire blast that burns and court change which flips hazards and screens.

    • @tommyortega7796
      @tommyortega7796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@coolyeh1017 court change is so fucking bs

  • @AnimeGames16
    @AnimeGames16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4496

    You're telling me that Greninja got banned in ORAS solely for throwing trash bins at fairies?

    • @marcusdellow
      @marcusdellow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +832

      This should be Greninja’s Gen 8 Pokédex entry, “banned for throwing trash bins at fairies”.

    • @sansthedevil
      @sansthedevil 4 ปีที่แล้ว +265

      to be more precise, it had no safe counters/checks with the right movepool

    • @fork-man
      @fork-man 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Why did they do that to our HERO

    • @byronlyons3548
      @byronlyons3548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

      Someone getting banned from competitive for _toxic_ behavior? Sounds about right.

    • @muddposs
      @muddposs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Marcus Dellow lol

  • @alexanderstilianov
    @alexanderstilianov 4 ปีที่แล้ว +847

    Water Pledge Greninja: What are you doing in my swamp?!

    • @windindi2834
      @windindi2834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      RayQUADza

    • @nyoron39
      @nyoron39 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@windindi2834 I like FARQUADza better, but works as well.

    • @BigRedLeg
      @BigRedLeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Lmfao i love this community

    • @Super_Smash_Dude
      @Super_Smash_Dude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You guys are awesome:)

    • @SandshrewEnthu1
      @SandshrewEnthu1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i will now name my greninja shrek

  • @josemansquito
    @josemansquito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +840

    someone: **has a name**
    FSG: I'm about to end this man's whole career

    • @hiei49
      @hiei49 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Being myself from south America, i find it hilarious how he struggles to pronounce names like Sebastian Escalante lol

    • @kiyonobu2833
      @kiyonobu2833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      FSG more like Substitute Teacher

    • @Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan
      @Lolo_Antonio-FryEmUpFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hiei49 do you know they don't speak Spanish

    • @EshamPlayz
      @EshamPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      670th Like

  • @phantomblizzard7756
    @phantomblizzard7756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1645

    Game Freak: Wanna see me give a starter a broken ability?
    *gives greninja protean*
    Game Freak: Wanna see me do it again?
    *gives cinderace libero*

    • @bigmounchi
      @bigmounchi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +126

      libero cinderace is so stupidly broken, if charizard can get into ubers why can't the stupid rabbit get banned there

    • @animegirl5980
      @animegirl5980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Alwin Cahyadi landorus incarnate

    • @parthacharya42069
      @parthacharya42069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Blaziken in particular getting speed boost is also broken but protean is better overall

    • @jambon2730
      @jambon2730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      Serperior : a bad starter
      Game freak : here's contrary
      Serperior is actually the first one who get a broken ability

    • @parthacharya42069
      @parthacharya42069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jambon2730 serperior got contrary at gen 6 and blazike got speed boost at gen 5 i guess

  • @beydey2647
    @beydey2647 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3518

    How SUBTLE was GameFreak's favoritism ACTUALLY?

    • @andrewkos5560
      @andrewkos5560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      They had to make up for it by snapping him out of Gen 8

    • @Gamesmarts194
      @Gamesmarts194 4 ปีที่แล้ว +411

      *points obnoxiously to Charizard
      Not at all I want to say.

    • @averytubestudios
      @averytubestudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Not at all

    • @TurbulentBreak
      @TurbulentBreak 4 ปีที่แล้ว +373

      Honestly, both Charizard and Greninja got more than their fair share of pandering. The other Kanto starters at least were still blessed with a mega evolution and Gigantamax form in the Sword and Shield expansion packs while the other Kalos starters are left in the dust. Charizard is overhyped, but people still loved it even though it sucked in battle. Game Freak and TPC gave Charizard everything in response to its popularity.
      Meanwhile, Greninja got everything from the get-go. Greninja has the stats, movepool, and ability to do great in the competitive scene while Chesnaught and Delphox languish behind. Greninja also has a more appealing design than the other Kalos starters to most people. It got in Smash, was Ash's ace, and even got an exclusive form. Greninja was manufactured to become a popular Pokemon and it worked.
      This is coming from someone who has Greninja as one of my favorite Pokemon btw.

    • @kefkapalazzo1
      @kefkapalazzo1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Andrew Kos he’ll be back

  • @elilopez6260
    @elilopez6260 4 ปีที่แล้ว +764

    Update: Libero Cinderace was banned from OU for doing the exact same thing as Gen 6 Protean Greninja

    • @lionelk.y7233
      @lionelk.y7233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +127

      Greninja from the ban wall: "first time?"

    • @crusaderofholyness2042
      @crusaderofholyness2042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      The ban wall is now the cool kids club

    • @BlooperTanooki
      @BlooperTanooki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +97

      Cinderace is an absolute monster. Slower than Greninja, but sturdier and hits harder. Also benefits from Gigantamax's stat boosts and Gmax Fireball, which destroys Mimikyu's disguise. The king of single battles.

    • @crusaderofholyness2042
      @crusaderofholyness2042 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      That's why I call him my "4 feet tall killing machine"

    • @Butter_Warrior99
      @Butter_Warrior99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Bruh

  • @whatamidoing725
    @whatamidoing725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +932

    I feel like if greninja gets released into gen 8, cinderace will be a perfect partner with its libero ability, making a duo team called probero

    • @carreragt006
      @carreragt006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      Perfection

    • @whatamidoing725
      @whatamidoing725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Ananya Gangavarapu it would probably dwarf landorous T

    • @Ace0-i
      @Ace0-i 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Probero? I LOVE IT! lol

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      Don’t forget that Cinderace can get Ally Switch for even more mindgames

    • @aerohydreigon1101
      @aerohydreigon1101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Oh crap

  • @LAZRGATR
    @LAZRGATR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1321

    >"a cornucopia of coverage"
    That is undoubtedly the most uber tier line your writer has ever thought up in the competitive history of this channel.

    • @chaosbreaker657
      @chaosbreaker657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +194

      "...upgrade Bullet Punch from a rifle to a bona fide bazooka."
      - How GREAT was Scizor ACTUALLY?
      "...before being brutally beaten back by Brave Bird."
      - How GOOD was Staraptor ACTUALLY?
      "...BandedTar's power become even greater due to Stone Miss - I mean Stone Edge."
      - How GOOD was Tyranitar ACTUALLY?
      There are more, but these are some of my favorites.

    • @陳嘉宇-y4q
      @陳嘉宇-y4q 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Dynamic miss ......I mean dynamic punch

    • @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989
      @itsyaboychipsahoy.7989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      GUILE; Sonic Boom

    • @muhammadrizkywidyakusumoaj1594
      @muhammadrizkywidyakusumoaj1594 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      ".....a pokemon that outhaxorused Haxorus"
      -How GOOD was Haxorus ACTUALLY

    • @blaster.m1943
      @blaster.m1943 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      i submit quagsires verdict to that hall of fame of lines
      "So how good was quagsire actually? Man i don't fucking know"

  • @STAROCiDE
    @STAROCiDE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    Libero cinderace: father? Is that you?

    • @meghanaingleshwar
      @meghanaingleshwar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      StarLight Of MoonSide greninja:yes it is me son it very much is

    • @theepicgreninja5423
      @theepicgreninja5423 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      You will use my protean in another version as I am watieng for my god dam trainer to come back to me but I doubt he will

    • @TheJadeFist
      @TheJadeFist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm actually not sure why they didn't just give Cinderace Protean, I mean, they are literally the same thing. However Greninja had a better move pool to select from to have greater type coverages. As well as had more balanced attack vs attack stat (95 A, 103 SA) that made it possible to take it physical or special, while Cinderace has to go physical (116 A, 65 SA). Cinderace is still awesome with easily the single best looking G-Max form that makes me miss megas, but w/e I guess, I hope they come back at some point.

    • @averytubestudios
      @averytubestudios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Are they in the same egg group? If so yes. Definitely.

    • @BusterDash
      @BusterDash 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is all that remains of a once powerful nation. Right now, you're on the threshold of an amazing adventure

  • @krishhiranandani7875
    @krishhiranandani7875 4 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    Back in my day there was this 10 year old with 20 years of experience who had a crazy Naruto Greninja
    He lost in some final to a mega Charizard x
    Then someone tried destroying the world but no one cared

    • @cintronproductions9430
      @cintronproductions9430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      Maybe he would have defeated Charizard if he were to spam Water Shuriken like a person with a brain would do. But seriously? Cut? CUT!?

    • @Nosretep
      @Nosretep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      @@cintronproductions9430 Dragon Resists Water. And Greninja is incredibly frail.

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

      @@Nosretep Charizard is still neutral

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      @@Nosretep tell that to the XY anime where Greninjas take no damage from leaf storms yet grass dragon types get completely beaten by water moves...

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Nosretep neutral STAB from gren isn't anything to scoff at

  • @darthrevan5609
    @darthrevan5609 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Gamefreak: You're a water and dark type
    Greninja: Its 2018 I can be what I want

  • @h0m3st4r
    @h0m3st4r 4 ปีที่แล้ว +262

    How GOOD were the starters ACTUALLY?
    Blaziken: (to all the other starters) "You're all vying for second place."
    Greninja: (to Blaziken) "Make that third place."

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Ngl Greninja is easily better than Blaziken in both gen 6 and 7 Ubers so this meme would be much funnier if the roles were flipped.

    • @jeremyfaure1888
      @jeremyfaure1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Meganium : Make that... Third place.

    • @sarmilaacharya318
      @sarmilaacharya318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Charizard : Make that good o'l 4th place

    • @zylen3167
      @zylen3167 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Blastoise after getting Shell Smash in gen 8: "Make that 4th place."

    • @zylen3167
      @zylen3167 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @ARTEM DORDZHIEV cinderace isnt better than gren. it could be good in uu tho. mega blastoise is banned from ou atm

  • @Eric4bz
    @Eric4bz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +393

    Ash Greninja is why I decided to get my own golisopod. Making a good First Impression was important as all hell.

    • @eliteadrisn4872
      @eliteadrisn4872 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t care

    • @tommyortega7796
      @tommyortega7796 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      @@eliteadrisn4872 who asked tho

    • @snarls3760
      @snarls3760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Funny joke

    • @berkay4903
      @berkay4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@eliteadrisn4872 stfu

    • @siaguamiel1787
      @siaguamiel1787 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh ya bc Greninja is weak to Bug types

  • @turtlenator6249
    @turtlenator6249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Froakie was one of my favorite Pokémon from Gen 6 even before finding out it’s evolution. So glad he had some major success in the competitive scene.

  • @LoinkLoink
    @LoinkLoink 4 ปีที่แล้ว +351

    Greninja is a pokemon where you want to battle with it non-shiny. Shiny Ash-Greninja is impossible to legitimately get, so when I see people flexing their shiny Greninjas online, I easily know they're using Protean and can plan around that. It's a situation where your flex can become your downfall.

    • @sonicblaze24
      @sonicblaze24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      Or a girl. BB was male only

    • @BigRedLeg
      @BigRedLeg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I like to sit outside for a while after my shower. It is peaceful

    • @Ego-Fiend
      @Ego-Fiend 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It's too bad
      It's Shiny looks so dripped 👌

    • @pkmntrainerred4247
      @pkmntrainerred4247 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And honestly I think the non-shiny looks cooler

  • @why8308
    @why8308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    Me: Finally, a gen 6 Pokémon! This should be pretty short!
    Also me: Looks at the time.

    • @rexyjp1237
      @rexyjp1237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      What da f happend to the floor

    • @Bemw0
      @Bemw0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rexyjp123 hi I’m bulbasaur

    • @ashopp9392
      @ashopp9392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Bemw0 and I'm squirtle

    • @Bemw0
      @Bemw0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ved Prakash and this is Pokémon talk

    • @why8308
      @why8308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ben Aldred You weren’t supposed to Finish the intro!

  • @Softcorns
    @Softcorns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    The fact is that you can see Groudon in almost every single video.

  • @adrienlust5927
    @adrienlust5927 4 ปีที่แล้ว +196

    "You know a pokémon is popular when it gets his own exclusive form"
    Meanwhile Audino

    • @masapeeta4140
      @masapeeta4140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Well Audino was memorable for how you might try to find groups of them for exp at some point in the game

    • @heplays2004
      @heplays2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Audino is the only gen 5 pkmn that has mega evo

    • @achievedchair17
      @achievedchair17 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And then there’s stunfisk

  • @fabg2416
    @fabg2416 4 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    His evolution across 2 generations, what a character develoment

    • @jjtheenton
      @jjtheenton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      And yet there's still nearly 30 minutes of material lmao.

  • @arlen7726
    @arlen7726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +681

    Imagine weather ball Greninja. That level of unpredictability would be insane.

    • @syazmanlyman
      @syazmanlyman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      No dont give them ideas

    • @Oneiromancy
      @Oneiromancy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@syazmanlyman Gen 9 would be great

    • @vibra7
      @vibra7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Or even better- Nature Power

    • @arlen7726
      @arlen7726 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      How about both? 😈

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I don’t think it would make it any more unpredictable if the weather was already out

  • @99wins31
    @99wins31 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    “You know you’re popular when you get your own exclusive form”
    Cherrim: You keep telling yourself that

  • @JCBro-yg8vd
    @JCBro-yg8vd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    Charizard: I'm the most popular fully evolved starter of all time.
    Greninja: Hold my pokeblocks.

  • @orionsfate4909
    @orionsfate4909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    It says a lot about Greninja when a video on it has nearly 30 minutes, when Delphox, a starter from the same gen, is 1/3 of the length. Just shows how much a great ability -and favoritism- can affect a mon.

    • @eyecontrol4900
      @eyecontrol4900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      yea, i hate how gamefreak completely neglected the other 2 starters and gave so much to greninja. Delphox shouldve got magic guard or magic bounce as a dreamworld ability

    • @skeetermania3202
      @skeetermania3202 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2 years separate those two videos, and another year separates Delphox and Chesnaught.

  • @kyoyamurasaki9169
    @kyoyamurasaki9169 4 ปีที่แล้ว +329

    This is basically "How GOOD was Protean/Battle Bond ACTUALLY?"

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah we dont need greninja

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

      Meanwhile Chesnaught and Delphox got almost nothing.

    • @mainakbiswas1758
      @mainakbiswas1758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      I mean An ability definitely defines a Pokemon, There are some exceptions like Garchomp

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That covers a lot of competitive Pokemon with the exception of most Psuedo Legendaries (except maybe the gen 3 ones once they got their megas).

    • @clamthechef2389
      @clamthechef2389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mainakbiswas1758 I meant as a different form of the geration like mega evolution, which they didn't get for some reason.

  • @cintronproductions9430
    @cintronproductions9430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +670

    Fun fact: Greninja has less Special Attack than flippin' ABRA. XD

    • @3.2187_Kilometres
      @3.2187_Kilometres 4 ปีที่แล้ว +367

      Fun fact: Onix has less base attack than Oddish.

    • @yumxi8632
      @yumxi8632 4 ปีที่แล้ว +322

      Who hits harder. An elite water ninja whos been training for 30+ levels. Or. One shy psychic boi

    • @CheesyCore
      @CheesyCore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      someone watches mandjtv
      well mandjtv kinda forgot to mention that abra might be the best wallbreaker in LC. so we didn't really "miss" abra's crazy spA (although it's the speed that allows him to be so good)

    • @xaropevic7918
      @xaropevic7918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Or even worse, solosis is only a single green cell and has more special attack as well

    • @nightmarekinggrimm4064
      @nightmarekinggrimm4064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Not like Abra can use that sp. atk stat anyway

  • @bmac4
    @bmac4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    Greninja may have a few too many tools but it's legit one of my favorite Pokemon of all time, even its design is fantastic.

    • @chialeendrums
      @chialeendrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Robert MacIntosh ikr! The design is amazing. Greninja is my favorite Pokemon of all time!

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@alwincahyadi831 fun fact:the bubbles on its arms are actually from the bubble scarf that its pre evolves had
      Also you gotta admit,the tounge scarf is disturbing,but creative

    • @namitapandey7136
      @namitapandey7136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Greninja look weird for me to that tounge look weird

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@namitapandey7136 But it's a god

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alwincahyadi831 Greninja is a god

  • @genkaiba15
    @genkaiba15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Sad day to be a Delphox. You're the first non-fighting/fire in generations, and you get paired with Greninja...

    • @mectainea5575
      @mectainea5575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Gen Kaiba if only Delphox had magic bounce instead of magician as its hidden ability and a bit more coverage then at least it could of had some successes. Its a shame too because Delphox has great special attack, solid speed and special defence.

    • @Super_Smash_Dude
      @Super_Smash_Dude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It was a sad day when it looked at itself in the mirror.

    • @HaHaHaHolowence
      @HaHaHaHolowence 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mectainea5575 *could have...

    • @blazefactor6849
      @blazefactor6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mectainea5575 Maybe Magic Guard instead of Magic Bounce, it would give it safe Stealth Rock switches as well as let it use Life Orb without taking any tick damage. I'm not sure if we'd really want the Fox with Bounce powers, especially with how fast it is, how strong it is, and how many tools it has. Will-o-wisp, Trick Room, dual screens, Sunny Day, Calm Mind, Psychic Terrain, and Ally Switch, all on a mon that can reflect non-damaging moves? That'd be disgusting, especially Ally Switch in doubles. You could literally perma-deny status onto an important teammate by threatening with bounces and setup, along with your own decent damage output. Plus, while the Fox has some pretty nasty weaknesses (Ground, Rock, Ghost, Water, Dark), she also has some really good resistances (Fighting, Steel, Fire, Grass, Psychic, Ice, Fairy). She'd be hellish when paired with someone like Tapu Bulu, who would cover Ground, Rock, Water, and Dark, while also really appreciating someone who can take out Poison, Ice, and Steel types who would otherwise be hard for it to fight.

    • @mectainea5575
      @mectainea5575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blazefactor6849 I agree with all of this though I should of clarified my old comment of magic bounce as an example though magic guard works just as well for the reason you mentioned its just that either option would be far better than magician as a hidden ability. Also yea from what you mentioned, I can see magic bounce delphox to be a very irritating Pokémon if it had magic bounce (and I forgot it had ally switch so it would be disgusting).

  • @iainplank7261
    @iainplank7261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Who would’ve thought we’d get gen 6 so quickly

  • @tomyhervas2422
    @tomyhervas2422 4 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    *Battle Bond activates*
    Greninja: *GOtTA swEEP sWEeP SWeEp!!!*

    • @heplays2004
      @heplays2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baldi's Basics

    • @ralphmarges2965
      @ralphmarges2965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      toxapex and ferrothorn: N O

    • @insertnamehere658
      @insertnamehere658 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ralphmarges2965 it can run hp fire for ferrothorn tho but I doubt extrasenssory would kill toxapex

    • @PyroPlays0
      @PyroPlays0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@insertnamehere658 specs boosted battle bond boosted will kill as much as i know if they not runnin SpD evs

    • @gamesnig
      @gamesnig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any defensive pokemon in an average team: i'l stop you right there

  • @frozenvoltz6739
    @frozenvoltz6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4143

    If Greninja got 30 minutes on just 2 generations being dominating in OU and being meh in VGC
    Imagine how long the Landorus video would be

    • @phantomz87
      @phantomz87 4 ปีที่แล้ว +612

      2 minutes dedicated to regular Lando. 40 dedicated to Lando-T

    • @justaadhdgamerwesley6244
      @justaadhdgamerwesley6244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +189

      Bring on blunder :)

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

      @@justaadhdgamerwesley6244 Agency Agency

    • @thom9910
      @thom9910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Please, don't give the Patreons ideas.

    • @kingoflions827
      @kingoflions827 4 ปีที่แล้ว +195

      @@thom9910 Lando is banned from being voted on as its WAY TOO LONG for a 1 week episode so its prolly gonna be a special if we get it at all

  • @substitutedoll5224
    @substitutedoll5224 4 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I love how FSG made an exception for greninja only because it's greninja

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Cuz Green ninja

    • @aknight7642
      @aknight7642 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wat da sub doin?

    • @lazydelibird
      @lazydelibird 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aknight7642 Either setting up or preparing a focus punch.

  • @thesolarhunter
    @thesolarhunter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +377

    Protean Greninja is basically Preyas from Bakugan.
    "CHANGE ATTRIBUTE"
    Edit: Thanks for the likes everyone, I just have one question for all you Bakugan fans...
    "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO!? THE ODDS ARE STACKED AGAINST YOU!...."

    • @xhale671
      @xhale671 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It's sad not everybody will get this

    • @machina5
      @machina5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @IllumiNation Bakugan is still being sold in stores.

    • @XO_Hikari
      @XO_Hikari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fax

    • @joegreen3802
      @joegreen3802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@xhale671 I get it XD

    • @mahn3580
      @mahn3580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@machina5 i have a bakugan ds game and I used to love it

  • @johnymousAnonymous
    @johnymousAnonymous 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    As an Australian I can confirm this, we love greninja.

  • @grub833
    @grub833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    FSG: how good was greninja actually
    Me: Screams in protean

  • @hoodclassicsofcalifornia
    @hoodclassicsofcalifornia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    5:33
    "Face me then god, you've rambled on long enough."

  • @armandorodriguez324
    @armandorodriguez324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Hahaha the Pledge Moves. Back in SM I had an absolutely Evil team where I would lead with Greninja and Charizard. I would Water + Fire Pledge for the Serene Grace and then spam Rock Slide on both of them for two 60% Chances to flinch.

  • @TheTrueMega
    @TheTrueMega 4 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Who knew that in gen 7 The dark type pokemon was used to removed fairy types.

    • @snarls3760
      @snarls3760 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Well if the dark type pulls a transform then thats not a dark type thats an unreleased imposter ditto

    • @iamzahin5910
      @iamzahin5910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snarls3760 When the dark type is sus.

    • @Ghoulofidiocy2917
      @Ghoulofidiocy2917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iamzahin5910 SUSUS AMOGUS

  • @whoiskizuki.
    @whoiskizuki. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    So Greninja got banned for being able to "Throw Trash at Fairies"?

    • @jamesgiles4517
      @jamesgiles4517 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Trash can

    • @yrrosi
      @yrrosi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello greatest loser

    • @redman4482
      @redman4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You just copied another comment you loser

    • @berkay4903
      @berkay4903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redman4482 shut up you asshole

    • @redman4482
      @redman4482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@berkay4903 no u

  • @MoodRealm_Native
    @MoodRealm_Native 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    "Truly one of a kind"
    Cinderace in gen 8: *Not anymore False Swipe Gaming, I am here now*

  • @MrJtizzle136
    @MrJtizzle136 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "It had to rely on Guile (sonic boom)".....god damn you 🤣

  • @kalamander8563
    @kalamander8563 4 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    FSG: “How GOOD was Greninja ACTUALLY?”
    Me: Yes

  • @ok443
    @ok443 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Now here we are in Scarlet and Violet where both Protean and Battle Bond have been gutted. :(

    • @spiciestbirb
      @spiciestbirb ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Protean was gutted, Battle Bond was slightly nerfed but still great

    • @AirGlobalTicketHouse
      @AirGlobalTicketHouse 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@spiciestbirb But now the boost is temporary🥲

  • @seanoodles7008
    @seanoodles7008 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Me: Ah it’s only been around in competitive for 2 gens so this video should be pretty sho....
    Video: 28 minutes!

  • @b2j135
    @b2j135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    20:10 unless it was Female. Then you knew FOR SURE it was Protean...or Torrent

    • @kyle-cl1by
      @kyle-cl1by 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      b2j135 wait how

    • @nousername191
      @nousername191 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@kyle-cl1by can't have Female Battle Bond Greninja

    • @byronlyons3548
      @byronlyons3548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Don't forget shiny, as you can't have that on BB Greninja either.

    • @akr0b4t
      @akr0b4t 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Battle bonds gren has to be male and non-shiny

    • @n484251
      @n484251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ... Unless that's Protean male regular greninja, then you fucked.

  • @tatsukinomiya
    @tatsukinomiya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Remember when folks believed that Froakie was going to be ass and pooped all over its hopes and dreams and called it ugly, because they were more aroused by Fennekin and Chespin? The "ugly" one had the most success

    • @treygreypaws3689
      @treygreypaws3689 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Lmfao I remember, I picked Froakie cause I didn't want a fire fighting fox or grass type (didn't want grass cause I just used servperior also used emboar too in black)

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I always thought Froakie was the best looking gen 6 starter

    • @tatsukinomiya
      @tatsukinomiya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ghoul Gaming I'm just glad I'm not the only one to call him Grenigga, because that's exactly what he is lmao

    • @lolicunny2
      @lolicunny2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Pretty sure Chespin was the most disliked Starter though.

    • @tatsukinomiya
      @tatsukinomiya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lolicunny2 Not initially

  • @zorohibiki
    @zorohibiki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    *cinderace with libero appears*
    greninja with protean: finally! a worthy opponent! our battle will be legendary!

    • @NoxLebeau
      @NoxLebeau 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      zorohibiki sad part is gren still out speeds

    • @Meepoli
      @Meepoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Nox Reaper *laughs in dark STAB sucker punch*

    • @wizard_guru8035
      @wizard_guru8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      *laughs in snipe shot for cinderace*

    • @Meepoli
      @Meepoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      *Scarf Dracovish enters the chat* “something smells fishy”

    • @wizard_guru8035
      @wizard_guru8035 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Meepoli *oh no*

  • @notasquiremario3299
    @notasquiremario3299 4 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    mewtwo 7 generations 20 minutes
    greninja 2 generations 27 minutes

    • @Igor-gw4io
      @Igor-gw4io 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      They didn't went into too much detail back then like now they are doing, also Mewtwo had 25 mins

    • @pedromonteiro2248
      @pedromonteiro2248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Unfair comparison! In the video before he Didn’t go in so many details...
      Actually, videos like Charizard and Mewtwo needs a remake!

    • @notasquiremario3299
      @notasquiremario3299 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pedromonteiro2248 yeah you right.

    • @James-ym9sv
      @James-ym9sv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greninja had only 2 generations and it had 27 minutes. Imagine a Landorus video.

    • @sakib6638
      @sakib6638 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@James-ym9sv 1 hour for gen 5 OU only

  • @BoyFromBelgium99
    @BoyFromBelgium99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Greninja has everything: Great speed, great sp. attack, good coverage moves, access to Spikes, Mat Block, Protean ability and Battle Bond. It was a threat in the competitive scene and both the anime and Super Smash Bros. gave it even more love. It's my favorite pokémon and I trolled so many times with it alongside some Z-moves, Battle Bond and Dark Pulse with flinching xd

  • @liyrex
    @liyrex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Last time I was this early, greninja haddnt been nerfed in smash yet.

  • @sebarsht12
    @sebarsht12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    Nobody:
    Sword and Shield: Hey guys, remember how GOOD Protean was, let's see that with a Fire-type. I'm sure everything will be fine.

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Oh boy here comes darmanitan

    • @DaGamingCore
      @DaGamingCore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Naw, he means Cinderace. Although you can't get it legit yet, Cinderace's hidden ability is basically protean.

    • @frozenvoltz6739
      @frozenvoltz6739 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't think Cinderace is gonna be as O.P as Greninja

    • @shadowtitanx3962
      @shadowtitanx3962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Nah. Greninja is WAY stronger than Cinderace. Cinderace has average Coverage other than Gunk Shot to slay Clefable. Iron Head is meh. Sucker Punch is meh. And, Zen Missbutt is eh. For Greninja, it has great Mixed Attacking stats, which massively sets apart from Cinderace.
      Plus, Court Change is a mandatory move slot for Hazard Control. As well as Pyro Ball and U-Turn.

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@frozenvoltz6739 it has bigger usage in ubers than Greninja because of court change lol, and deals massive damage to zacian which is the best ubers mon atm

  • @oblati
    @oblati 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    14:33 is the only time I've ever heard Greninja described as underrated

  • @deathbringr0005
    @deathbringr0005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Greninja looks and feels like he came out of power rangers and I love it.

    • @andersoncampbell5083
      @andersoncampbell5083 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Power rangers ninja storm specifically

    • @treek10k
      @treek10k 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He looks like he came out of a medieval fantasy game to me.

  • @TIMxisxHERE
    @TIMxisxHERE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Let's get grassy;
    How good was FERRORTHORN Actually?!

    • @thaiangquoc9505
      @thaiangquoc9505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dear god...
      Not this stalling bastard again

    • @TIMxisxHERE
      @TIMxisxHERE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SharinganSakura \o/

  • @ZenoCrasher
    @ZenoCrasher 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Of all the gen 6 pokemon that could've been covered, I'm glad that it was Greninja who was chosen to be the first gen 6 pokemon. Greninja was tailor made to be one of the best pokemon of all time, in both competitive pokemon and the hearts of fans. I still want you to cover Krookodile though

  • @LesbianWitchAcademia
    @LesbianWitchAcademia 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    *listening to the first 15 minutes of the video:* Yeah this is nice and all. Greninja was a really interesting pokemon. Then Ash-Gren happened.

  • @kmwright19
    @kmwright19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I was on Team Froakie before it was cool. When I saw Greninja for the first time admittedly I was like "WTF?!" because of that tongue scarf. I couldn't decide if it was genius or insane. It ended up as my favorite Pokémon of all time. I love its design, its ability (especially since it fits with the ninja "master-of-disguise" motif), and its shiny (again fits in with its ninja theme and is great looking to boot). It got me to watch the anime again, which IMO is the best season. I was also estactic that it got in Smash 4 (didn't see coming) and is now a top tier threat in Smash Ultimate without all that BS nerfs (I wish Sakurai would leave that Pokemon alone). I haven't felt this excited over a Pokémon since I was a kid with Charizard, only except Greninja was as competitive as the anime depict it to be.
    I wasn't looking forward to Sun/Moon but I admit I was suckered in because of that Ash-Greninja demo (best demo ever). I really like Battle Bond Greninja due to how convenient it was to get and that it felt like a balanced "mega". You had to legit earned its overpowered form.
    While I'm not too happy that it's not in Sw/Sh, at least there's still Smash and it won Pokémon of the year. I hope Greninja continues to be one of the best starters. If it gets "nerfed", I hope it's still competitive like Aegislash and not end up like Talonflame. It annoys me that Gamefreak is using Cinderace to be the next Greninja with Libero instead of giving it is own originality. That just felt like they were not even being subtle about who they want to be the IT Pokémon without waiting for the fans to decide for themselves.
    Sorry for the essay. I'm just glad that you covered him despite being too soon for Gen 6 and I hope a Smash analysis video is coming up. For next Pokémon, I like to see Ferrothorn or a Swampert remake (Gen 7).

    • @notvex3987
      @notvex3987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel like the tounge scarf was increadibly creative..but a bit wierd

  • @krosshair450
    @krosshair450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love Greninja, by far my favorite starter Pokémon

    • @chialeendrums
      @chialeendrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Krosshair same. He’s my favorite Pokemon of all time

    • @somethingrandom4518
      @somethingrandom4518 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, Also my first pokemon *I started pokemon in X and Y don't ask.

    • @tristantemple834
      @tristantemple834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chialeendrums Same. It’s not even close for me It’s my favorite Pokémon PERIOD.

  • @N12015
    @N12015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    You forgot one place: Smash bros. He is, much like sheik, in the ninja archetype, a light, tall character with lackluster damage but amazing, versatile combos until high percentages. In smash 4 he was... decent, a higher mid tier who popularized the "better nerf greninja" because he was losing constantly his gimmicks, forced to rely on footstools.
    In Ultimate he is a High tier because of a lot of new kill confirms into up smash (He really loves the landing lag reduction), good enough to win top players, specially by players like Glutonny or Lea, but not so popular because Joker outshines almost everyone; still, you know a character is good when he can achieve top 8 in a big tournament like glitch 8.

    • @mr.krustykrust
      @mr.krustykrust 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Can’t forget his falling speed allows for up-air drag downs as well

    • @awesometown1000
      @awesometown1000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nothing is funnier than using your enemies as a trampoline.

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mr.krustykrust That's also a Joker and Sheik gimmick who is decent and can be used alongside lick, but he also gained a safer kill confirm in down tilt and N-air.
      The problem with Greninja in Smash 4 was its bad air game outside of up-air and footstools, because he couldn't autocancel any air move in a short hop (He still can't, but landing lag is lower in ultimate), as well as a terrible grab game and being the Smash's equivalent of Irelia; if something taught me Little Mac, is that air game, recovery and grabs are important to not being an awful bottom tier (At least the ninja has the second one).
      Ultimate greninja still lacks a good grab game, but so do Joker, and at least he (Ash's greninja is male) has now a good synergy between ground and air moves, and more options in general which is important (Ask Ike, Piranha plant or Little Mac if you don't believe me).

    • @bunabobby
      @bunabobby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      also greninja OOS options are ass

    • @N12015
      @N12015 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bunabobby No character is perfect. Greninja does NOT have an amazing frame data, he has incredibly low endlag and startup on GROUNDED moves, which allow him to have sick combos. The only usable OoS is the B-air. You know someone has terrible defensive game when his most reliable OoS is jab.

  • @phoenixa4212
    @phoenixa4212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I can only imagine how long Rotom and its appliances and Landorus T is going to be...
    Now that i think about it what is cinderace going to be like..
    Imagine a vgc where cinderace with libero and greninja with protean staring down at the opponent...

  • @LucyRoseLuna
    @LucyRoseLuna 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I´m already hyped for "how good was cinderace actually?" I know, I have to wait quite some time for that, but I´m definetely looking forward

  • @starduststriker8792
    @starduststriker8792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Greninja: * is in OU for the entirety of its existence due to its type-changing ability *
    Cinderace: You know, I'm something of a Greninja myself

    • @Emobullymaguire
      @Emobullymaguire 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cinderace: I had to beat Gamefreak with a stick to this ability.

  • @hecatia666
    @hecatia666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember Joaquin's Greninja, it kicked my ass so bad I didn't got to do anything
    But that was so good, so good I felt admiration!

  • @leojun2
    @leojun2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even though I don't play Pokemon competitively, I love watching your videos! They are so detailed and well explaned!

  • @jamesaddy8438
    @jamesaddy8438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember when this series was in its early days and I was so sad thinking about how long it would take to get to greninja but here it is!

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't like that we already have a Gen 6 mon, when we even still have some Gen 1 mons left.

    • @CrazedKasaJizo
      @CrazedKasaJizo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tobiasgund8048 Why? FSG don’t have to go in order, and it’s not interesting to keep getting the same start and descent

  • @ChampionProductionsYT
    @ChampionProductionsYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man I have been waiting for this for so long 😁

  • @DunceTree93
    @DunceTree93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'd just like to give my personal experience with Greninja despite no one asking. So I missed ALOT of gens of Pokémon cause my family was literally dirt poor. Meaning the only gen I got to play was gen 1. I got to watch some friends play gen 2 but after that, Pokémon was not around for me. Fast forward 20 years and Sun &Moon came out. My fiancé bought it night of release for my birthday. I had to learn alot really fast, but I loved it. Then someone showed me Greninja. And to say that I fell in love with it is an understatement. I found all the anime I missed as a kid and re watched all of it BECAUSE of Greninja lmfao. I loved its design, the typing, the overall feel and playstyle. Greninja became not only my favorite starter, but one of my favorite Pokémon of all time. I sucked at competitive because I was missing like 15 years of experience, but Greninja made fall head first into competitive for the first time ever, and helped me learn a lot about the basics and strats and just how brutal competitive could actually be for Pokémon. I'm still not great by any means, but I can hold my own now.
    I miss him, wish he was in gen 8 but it is what it is. I get that he is just as hyped as Charizard popularity wise, but in my opinion, he's better. I'm glad that newer generations has a Pokémon that is what Charizard was for my generation.

  • @acedeepy4479
    @acedeepy4479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Greninja : Why did i got banned :(
    Reason : Throwing Trash cans to Fairy Types

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why did it throw itself at fairies

    • @yaboywest5856
      @yaboywest5856 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CJay101 says the mimikyu pfp okay

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yaboywest5856 greninja is weak to fairy types lmao

    • @hellothere4892
      @hellothere4892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CJay101 Gunk shot go brrrrr

    • @CJay101
      @CJay101 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hellothere4892 disguise exists 💀

  • @generalshepherd2209
    @generalshepherd2209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Our first Gen 6 Pokémon! Man hard to think we’re here. I remember the first Dragonite video.

  • @kyleeversfield8276
    @kyleeversfield8276 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ffs, the deliver on that guile sonic boom joke was just perfect. So nonchalant in execution that I almost missed it completely.

  • @calebdonaldson7044
    @calebdonaldson7044 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    TH-cam rn: lets take the comment section and push it somewhere else

    • @thebraveguy9808
      @thebraveguy9808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah. Am I the only one who kind of hates that change?

    • @Jam_Fam
      @Jam_Fam 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Brave Guy no you are definitely not

    • @isaacbarton1227
      @isaacbarton1227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If it ain't broke; don't fix it!

    • @kryo4491
      @kryo4491 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The comments works fine for me, I'm not sure what changed

  • @PepperonibeatsZombie
    @PepperonibeatsZombie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Imagine how lucky Greninja got. It was given a cool design and right off the bat it was put in Smash 4 just off the design alone. But if didn’t fare in battle well, it wouldn’t have gotten as popular. Luckily, it was born a Pokemon with a great design, a great statspread, and a great hidden ability. Then to put the cherry on top, it absolutely shined in the XYZ anime, being both written and animated spectacularly. No wonder it won Pokemon of the year.

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Greninja's statspread is that it has good speed and everything else is just mediocre so how is that a great statspread? Also in terms of writing Greninja in the anime has pretty much no personality, is a complete gary stu when it comes to battles and just happens to have a very very rare special ability what turns it into a new form what by a complete coincidence just happens to look like what his current trainer is wearing so not really written well by any means either.

    • @belimvasim143
      @belimvasim143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@V-Jes with 520 BST it has exactly what he needed look at serperior emboar decidueye

    • @jibby6969
      @jibby6969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@V-Jes “Gary stu” just a straight up lie on your part. And 102 is by no means a bad stat

    • @V-Jes
      @V-Jes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @him Ash in XY seasons literally walks to a Gym with a Pokémon with a type disadvantage and just 1 shots 1 of the Gym leaders Pokémon with a not very effective move while his Pokémon take little to no damage at all when they get hit by super effective moves, also 103 is extremely mediocre for an offensive stat what is why every Greninja uses Choice Specs or Life orb these days...

    • @jibby6969
      @jibby6969 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@V-Jes you when a Pokémon uses items to be more effective in a meta designed around efficient damage 😱 also are we forgetting that the anime Pokémon almost never strays to the games? Remember the time pikachu one shotted a golem with thunderbolt? Yeah I don’t think Greninja should be treated differently in an anime that is far different from the games since it’s a show not a game

  • @alessandroarroyo1731
    @alessandroarroyo1731 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tabu Bulu: **set Grassy Terrain**
    Greninja: Congratulation. YOU PLAYED YOURSELF.

  • @Firescizor
    @Firescizor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Seeing the absolute madlad-ism of Protean makes me wonder how even more amazing Cinderace can get when he finally receives Libero as an ability. He's coverage pales in comparison to Greninja's for the most part, but even some sets with gimmicky moves like Electro Ball could be enabled by that ability I think

  • @de4thb0rn57
    @de4thb0rn57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "How good was Greninja actually", you're shorter than I expected

  • @kmversion1
    @kmversion1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Greninja: I'm the first starter not from Hoenn to be banned
    Cinderace: Hello there

    • @Venom-dr9pc
      @Venom-dr9pc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That’s not wrong though Greninja is the first starter not from Hoenn to be banned

    • @laxusstrauss5945
      @laxusstrauss5945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cinderace was banned only because there is not national dex anymore
      + I thought only libero is banned the blaze one is still usable in OU

  • @callmeosho7792
    @callmeosho7792 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    How good was greninja?
    Me: It's greninja you need an explanation?

  • @renatatostada3318
    @renatatostada3318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I loved using Greninja in gen 6, it was always such a good time. I think any buffs to it for doubles would have negative effects on it for singles. If it gets a defensive buff in doubles, then all the issues it causes in singles are exacerbated. I think greninja allows for such creativity from trainers that people are always gonna try to find a way with it as it is

  • @chialeendrums
    @chialeendrums 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yay finally you made a video about my favorite Pokemon, Greninja! He’s awesome!

  • @Cyrentic
    @Cyrentic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    25:51 I can actually imagine greninja relaxing by the beach under a parasol sipping on some Piña colada.

  • @Mcflyeon
    @Mcflyeon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally, a Gen 6 Pokemon and starting with Greninja! :D

  • @craniifer
    @craniifer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly, I need to watch more of the Gen 6 competitions. The team comps looked crazy.

  • @tyson123123123
    @tyson123123123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Probably the best starter pokemon of all time, alongside with Blaziken

    • @aerohydreigon1101
      @aerohydreigon1101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Unpopular Opinion
      Greninja sucks, is overrated and GameFreak is biased to it

    • @ethanc.1443
      @ethanc.1443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@aerohydreigon1101 It don't suck if it's good Lmao

    • @Karaaa99
      @Karaaa99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      AeroHydreigon overrated in terms of what? He’s a good Pokémon, badass in the anime, a good competitive Pokémon, and he’s great in terms of design. You can’t call something overrated without being specific

    • @Karaaa99
      @Karaaa99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      AeroHydreigon he’s also been cut from gen 8, so that proves your point wrong regardless

    • @rajt9996
      @rajt9996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Karaaa99
      1. Better abilities and stats than the other starters
      3. Garbage anime form
      4. It's in smash
      5. More popular than charizard
      6. Game freak is too biased
      7. Better shiny than other starters

  • @SaltyTreecko
    @SaltyTreecko 4 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    Alternate title: How GOOD was Battle Bond ACTUALLY?

    • @yarc9
      @yarc9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SaltyTreecko meh only he useless without it

    • @MrEzman99
      @MrEzman99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Battle Bond didn't exist in Gen 6, it was Protean that made Greninja a star.

    • @cooperm4185
      @cooperm4185 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lol Protean got him banned to Ubers

    • @moltz4866
      @moltz4866 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also Protean

    • @MontageHustle
      @MontageHustle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well protean was incredible as well

  • @joshuawilliams4741
    @joshuawilliams4741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    /Gen 1 Starters/
    Venusaur: "I may not be as cool as the other one's, but I love you!"
    Charizard: "I.... am a motherfucking.... Dragon...."
    Pokedex: "....."
    Charizard: "Just give it a minute."
    Blastoise: "Hehehe! Water cannons go FWOOOSH!"
    /Gen 2 Starters/
    Meganium: "I... I... forget it...."
    Typhlosion: "Hehehe! Volcano back go FWOOOSH!"
    Feraligatr: "I.... am a motherfucking.... Dragon...."
    Pokedex: "...."
    Feraligatr: "Just give it a minute."
    /Gen 3 Starters/
    Sceptile: "I.... AM A MOTHERFUCKING.... DRAGON...."
    Pokedex: "The fuck's wrong with ya'll?"
    Sceptile: "JUST GIVE IT A MINUTE!"
    Blaziken: "I'm a fighting type?! This is way better than being a Dragon!"
    Swampert: *E L E C T R I C*
    *I M M U N I T Y*
    /Gen 4 Starters/
    Torterra: "I'm a Continent... with a ground typing? Where does the Earthquake start.... and where does it end?"
    Infernape: "Twice in a row! And better moves?! This typing is AWESOME!"
    Empoleon: *"R O Y A L T Y"*
    /Gen 5 Starters/
    Serperior: *"R O Y A L T Y"*
    Emboar: "Okay, it's old now..."
    Samurott: "I'm a Samurai.... with seashell armor? Where does the Razor Shell end... and the armor begin?"
    /Gen 6 Starters/
    Chestnaught: "YES! NOW I GET TO HAVE THE COOL FIGHTING TYPE!"
    Delphox: *whips out magic fire stick*
    Delphox: "How compelling. Now face the wall."
    Chestnaught: "Wait, why?!"
    Delphox: "Because you're about to get your ass beaten twice."
    Chestnaught: "B-but I can still hard Counter Greninja with this typing.... right?"
    Greninja: "AERIAL ACE!!!"
    Chestnaught: "NOOOOOO!!!"
    Mega-Venusaur: "I'm fat? Noice."
    Mega-Charizard X: "I TOLD YA'LL IT WAS HAPPENING!"
    Mega-Charizard Y: "Have fun with those Ground types, buddy."
    Mega-Blastoise: *B I G F W O O O S H*
    Mega-Sceptile: "I TOLD YA'LL IT WAS HAPPENING!"
    Feraligtr: "Wait.... hol' up! You guys skipped me!"
    Mega-Blaziken: "I got a need.... for SPEED!"
    Mega-Swampert: "BRING THE RAIN, AND I'LL BRING THE PAIN!"
    /Gen 7 Starters/
    Decidueye: *is the night*
    Incineroar: "Fun fact: for the past three generations, all of the fire secondary typings have countered the previous one.... also *R W A A A A A A A A A A R*
    Announcer: "INTRODUCING, THE BEST WATER TYPE STARTER POKEMON OF ALL TIME!"
    Primarina: "Oh my goodness! It's happening!"
    Announcer: " GIVE IT UP FOR ASH-GRENINJAAAAAAAAA!!!"
    Primarina: ._.
    Ash-Greninja: "GRENINJA!!!"

    • @halfway7690
      @halfway7690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joshua Williams here at 12:25 Am before you get millions of likes. 5/10/2020

    • @Big85746
      @Big85746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cringe

    • @ganjafi59
      @ganjafi59 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joshua Williams gold

    • @lyingninja5605
      @lyingninja5605 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro wtf are you blabbering

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      /Gen 8 Starters/
      Inteleon: I used to cry, now I’m a spy! And for my Gigantimax, I wield a gun.
      Rillaboom: I’m the drummer of the group, you know me well...
      Cinderace: I got a neat move Court Change, a powerful fire move, and I’m due for the next Protean! Ready or not, HERE I COME!!!!!
      Greninja: Amateurs.
      All three starters: You literally aren’t allowed this...
      Greninja: AMATEURS.

  • @Yhormungandr
    @Yhormungandr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I honestly expected a fifty minute video. Not that I'm dissapointed.

    • @HRCFre4k
      @HRCFre4k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I wonder how long Heatran will be

    • @quimartolas12
      @quimartolas12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh man you are in for a treat

    • @mainakbiswas1758
      @mainakbiswas1758 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      it's been only 2 gens for Greninja lol, And it's not that great in doubles , But yeat Mat block definitely a thing when Garchomp needs a SD lol

    • @Yhormungandr
      @Yhormungandr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@mainakbiswas1758 Incineroar has been in 1 gen and the current one, but it won't stop him from being in a half-hour video.

    • @MisterSleep1123
      @MisterSleep1123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HRCFr34k wanna bet for Landorus-T?

  • @justinarney3050
    @justinarney3050 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    one of the rare times when a pokemon gets a new form but both are equally viable in the formats that allow them.

  • @danieloh6782
    @danieloh6782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the most impressive things in these videos is how many ways you can introduce the placings without repeating yourself. Kudos to your writers!

    • @beta511ee4
      @beta511ee4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you explain?

  • @emojifr...
    @emojifr... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I wanna know how good Medicham was, I wonder how its mega got to OU.

    • @nic9080
      @nic9080 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Pure Power.

    • @tatsuya5888
      @tatsuya5888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100 base attack being doubled by pure power and then add 120 bp High Jump Kick and Fake Out/Bullet Punch for priority and here you go

    • @emojifr...
      @emojifr... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nic9080 but still i want to know how it did in the other generations

    • @emojifr...
      @emojifr... 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tatsuya5888 but what about the other gens

    • @twicepilled
      @twicepilled 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emojifr... it was still pretty good, it had pure power even before it got the mega

  • @NobodyDungeons
    @NobodyDungeons 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I typically ran Ash greninja with magnet pull magnazone, and excadrill to answer 90% of ash greninja's counters such as ferrothorn, toxipex, and others

  • @jacksonreynolds7433
    @jacksonreynolds7433 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh my god. A Pokemon video pronouncing protean correctly? Never thought I'd see the day.

    • @beta511ee4
      @beta511ee4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it really commonly mispronounced?

    • @danielthemaniel8601
      @danielthemaniel8601 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@beta511ee4 people constantly pronounce it like protein

  • @kefkapalazzo1
    @kefkapalazzo1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Gren has an amazing design. Up there with scizor and gengar for me

    • @tobiasgund8048
      @tobiasgund8048 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I can't even enjoy that because pf its sky rocketing favouritism.

    • @whydoiexist2180
      @whydoiexist2180 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobiasgund8048 tbf its significantly more subtle then there love for charizard

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whydoiexist2180 Lol Charizard is the most overrated

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobiasgund8048 if you actually wanna see favouritism then take a look at Charizard before hating on Greninja

    • @RealShades7
      @RealShades7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whydoiexist2180 Idk who ur against Greninja or Charizard?

  • @OptimusMinor1
    @OptimusMinor1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    How good was Exploud actually? BOOMBURST!!!!

  • @Umbrox-57
    @Umbrox-57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve heard of battle bond but never realised how utterly broken it was until you explained it to me. Every stat you explained, topping other stats made me pause in shock.

  • @xanderhunt2502
    @xanderhunt2502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Froakie was my very first Pokémon I ever used, I’m so glad Greninja holds the reputation and power it does. Greninja is so dear to my heart 🥺