ATTENTION! Hey, it's Kellen. I missed some MAJOR Placements for Infernape for 2016. It actually has quite a bit of notable Regional, National, and World's placements. Thank you to Nerd of Now for pointing it out. I deeply and sincerely apologize for missing these placements despite taking more than the usual time to make this video. This video would probably be 3-4 minutes longer had I known about these placements. Also yes, this means Infernape was pretty good in 2016 despite what I said in the video. Anyways, here we go: 2016: trainertower.com/taiwan-nationals-2016/ 劉X安 易安 placed 1st at the Taiwan Nationals trainertower.com/north-american-regionals-spring-series/ Ashton Cox placed 3rd at the Massachusetts Regionals trainertower.com/european-regionals-united-kingdom/ Jamie Boyt placed 1st at the Liverpool Regionals trainertower.com/asia-pacific-regionals-australia/ Francis D’Souza placed 5th at the Perth Regionals And of course, trainertower.com/2016-world-championships/, Justin Carris made it to 5th at Worlds with Infernape on his team!. You can watch him use it in a match here: th-cam.com/video/eVTG3FfPpw8/w-d-xo.html Thank you for reading. Again, I am very sorry I missed these.
And you also forgot that infernapes defense and special defense stats were decrease to 69 both and it's special attack and attack stat increased to 106 each because of that.
@@funnybones7771 i think u forgot in BW infernape was an amazing wallbreaker in the sun, banded nape spamming flare blitz did so much damage to everything
Paul was basically a competitive player when I think about it lol Edit: I think a lot of people forget that the anime doesn’t usually follow the game’s logic because stats are the way that they are for balancing purposes and generally do not reflect the lore of a Pokémon
He's was more a plain douchebag, really, since his team was far from "competitive" if you think about it. In fact, the funny thing is that Ash technically used a more competitive team than Paul during D/P which is incredibly ironic.
"Now, unless Incineroar is sucked into a black hole, it seems that Infernape's days of VGC are behind it." A black hole *almost* appeared in the form of Generation 8, but Incineroar managed to escape it and threw Infernape in there instead.
Infernape will probably gain something in the DP remacks + since it's introduction it was OU/UU imagine it gaining something like a mega or an ability such as adaptability it will became a beast It would probably be in uber As for inceneroar it is probably my favorite gen 7 pokemon but it is OP in VGC only There is an entire world between it and infernape in singles Inceneroar is in NU even there it is outclassed As for infernape it is the best fire type in GEN 7 UU
Jack Holdcroft your comment should be:”Now unless Incineroar is sucked into a black hole,it seems that Infernape’s days of VGC are behind it” A black hole appeared in the form of Generation 8,but Incineroar managed to escape it but Infernape got sucked in not Incineroar and Incineroar is still amazing in VGC.
@@jacobhowell406 Well, paul does prove ash wrong at their match at the lake. Ash did his best effort, even got a emotional mid-battle evolution from his Chimchar and the Blaze ability triggerred... and still lost. Just being bffs clearly wasnt enough. Ash HAD to amp his game. Hell, Sinnoh is the region where he develops more strategies: Countershield, Ice Aqua Jet, full roster for the league, etc. Ash kept to his ideals AND implemented some of his rival philosophy, and it was great.
Sebastián Chávez Um no, Blaze was never activated in their battle at Lake Acuity, Reggie clearly says that it was just Monferno’s determination to win(even though it lost)
Man, Infernape was really one of those pokemon that received something similar to the Tauros treatment. Amazing in the gen it was introduced in, but sadly started to fall off after the power creep of the following generations. The difference is that at least he's still viable in UU, while Tauros is nowhere to be found.
GF has not been kind to Tauros with the generations... Like even though it has an amazing HA in Sheer Force it can't actually use it without Gen 1 VC transfer or special Dream World Tauros from gen 5 with Rock Climb Otherwise the best you can do is Secret Power import from ORAS.... Of course even getting that wouldn't be enough to redeem the guy so yeah...
@@Dragrath1 Being a male only pokemon with no prevolutions, alternate evoultions, or female counterparts means Tauros only has half the moveset it could have.
ShadowtitanX yeah Infernape is still amazing main reason it’s UU is majority of OU have stat totals of 600 for real only like 12 out of 38 Pokemon in OU aren’t mega or legendary
@@sinnohperson8813 First, the best comparison would be Meganium, since that was one of the Starter Pokémon in the game. Second, Meganium is trash too. Gen 2 was not the time for Grass Pokémon.
Not only is next week's a Patreon pick but he's said before that' he's no longer using the comments section for voting. And of course people use the comments section for voting.
I love how versitile the mon is. It's amazing choiced scarf, banded, specs, life orb, z moves, expert belt. It can be used for so much, really like it and no wonder it was so good throughout four different generations now
@@robertharris6092 i think they are just waiting for Sinnoh remakes to give It and the other 4th gen starters a mega , they probably don't care if it is going to be just a worse mega blaziken
It's really not that good nowadays with how much harder hitting and faster the meta has become. Mega-Mence being everywhere makes Infernape borderline impossible to use now.
I personally think Infernape needs 2 Megas, 1 for Physical Attackers, the other for Special Attacking just like Charizard. Is it wrong to think of my Special Attacker Infernape as a saiyan firing powerful Kamehamehas when Sunny Day is in effect?
It's sorta viewers just ignored what False said and just went straight back to cluttering up the comments with requests. While it was nice while it lasted, now the comments might be virtually the same thing in future videos. (EDIT: Not saying suggestions/requests are bad, just don't want an influx.)
Espeaking of which, where do we comment on our choice now? He had a single comment chain for it last time right? Just a question. Edit: Nevermind saw answer in comments. Thank you.
@@Zek3nator I don't see the point of posting it anywhere. I can't imagine being so hopelessly tied to a certain Pokemon that you'll diarrhea it's name on every video until a video gets made on it. Let FSG do what they do, enjoy the in depth commentary, and stop vomiting Pokemon names
Infernape is my favorite Pokemon hands down I love his design and his moveset and playstyle. Really want a mega evolution I could definitely see a Sun wu Kong Infernape complete with a staff
Considering that Chimchar was one of 5 Fire evolution lines available in Diamond and Pearl before national dex. You really didnt have much of a choice for fire types besides that one
Actually that is Platinum in Diamond and Pearl it was actually one of only TWO fire type lines available the Other Being Ponyta.... Yeah even though the generation added a fire type legend it was of course post game only because GF. In Platinum the dex was expanded by adding the Magby, Houndour and Eevee lines before post game.
@@IceBlueLugia uhhh Assuming you didn't super grind for monferno for fighting moves VS roark it beats: Gym 2, Grass, Your stabs one shot all the mons here Gym 3, Malenes Lucario Gym 4, Quagsire (with grassknot) gym 6, Steel, Your stabs one shot all the mons here Gym 7, Ice, Your Stabs one shot all the mons here Gym 8, Switch your set to SD and run EQ, it will be useful here on out Elite 4, Bug, The only threat is drapion. You could run SD EQ though. Elite 4, Fire, Goes even, wins with SD EQ Cynthia, Roserade, Lucario and gastrodon with grass knot. Can revenge kill garchomp with its better speed but can't ohko.
@@IceBlueLugia I never said they are needed, I was simply pointing out how great infernapes line was. I mean you can technically catch a bidoof at route I grind it till the highest level before it obeys before every gym and win easily with X items + Simple
AbdallahSmash026#1Fan the problem is more of the fact that a generation should have a balanced amount of types available regardless of difficulty, like how hoenn had so many water types but didn’t have only 2 or 3 grass types. The variety of types is what matters and without that the game can feel dull and empty to most people
Complete FSG evaluation for now (and this time I remembered about Smeargle): 1. Charizard - pretty decent 2. Venusaur - consistently good 3. Unown - I don't know, who cares 4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre 5. Dragonite - incredible 6. Starmie - great 7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off 8. Gengar - phenomenal 9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down 10. Gyarados - pretty good 11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon 12. Machamp - decent 13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat 14. Lapras - not that good 15. Articuno - even more not that good 16. Zapdos - pretty damn good 17. Moltres - better than I expected 18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him 19. Aerodactyl - decent 20. Nidoking - pretty good 21. Scizor - great 22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing 23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit 24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six 25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good 26. Smeargle - pretty good 27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles 28. Golbat/Crobat - OK 29. Slowbro - pretty good 30. Wigglytuff - outclassed 31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good 32. Porygon-Z - OK 33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really 34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything 35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying 36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving 37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good 38. Poliwrath - not great 39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon 40. Umbreon - pretty decent 41. Ampharos - wasn't that good 42. Cloyster - pretty damn good 43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming 44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good 45. Pikachu - pretty bad 46. Raichu - pretty bad 47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest 48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing 49. Gardevoir - up and down 50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome 51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious 52. Typhlosion - not great 53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know 54. Meganium - sucks 55. Dunsparce - sucked 56. Donphan - pretty dang average 57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good 58. Vaporeon - pretty good 59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks 60. Metagross - incredible 61. Salamence - amazing 62. Swampert - good 63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now 64. Wobbuffet - hard to say 65. Sceptile - pretty below average 66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement 67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while 68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect 69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon 70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right? 71. Mew - really good 72. Lucario - really strong 73. Kangaskhan - OK 74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining 75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind 76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force 77. Suicune - as good as it is regal 78. Raikou - pretty good 79. Entei - not that good 80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick 81. Ninetales - not very good at all 82. Gallade - pretty decent 83. Tangela/Tangrowth - Tangela was among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick 84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad 85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever 86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK 87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable 88. Persian - sucked after first generation 89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was 90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers 91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time 92. Muk - pretty alright 93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history 94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball 95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon 96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU 97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon 98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side 99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media 100. Infernape - overall, pretty good
@@Sombres The problem with Alolan formes is it doesn't help the base Pokemon out in the first place. Really it got stat screwed hard which is telling in that part of what made A-Ninetales as effective as it was was moving some of the unused attack to speed. It has always bothered me that regular Ninetales counterpart Arcanine gets an extra 50 BST total not to mention how it got screwed over in the special split... Plus I noticed its old dex entries mention it placing curses which only ghost types can do so it probably should have been made part ghost but alas Curse wasn't made until gen 2....
The Gen 4 segment is longer than Typlosion's entire video and Typlosion is two gens earlier. Hoo boy. It's also slightly longer than Kangaskhan, a Gen 1 pokemon
@@puteradarmasulaimanmarwan702 I'm pissed. I should've bought DQ11:E! This was my ace Pokemon. My first Pokemon was an accidental Shiny Chimchar(Adamant).
Remember when there were videos summing up the entirity of a pokemons competitive history in the time it takes to talk about infernapes gen 4 singles life... how far we have come...
Did some calculation, FSG starts covering gen 5 at 12:47. Video ends at 20:57, so that means 767 seconds / 1257 seconds * 100% = approx. 61.0% time spent. That was quite spot on!
That battle is probably one of the most satisfying battles in the entire anime, and one of my favorite moments overall. It felt so satisfying to see that Infernape that Paul abused and called weak as a Chimchar knock him down at the Pokémon League of all places
While Charizard is my favorite fire starter Ash owns because reasons, Infernape always had the best character story as it went through the whole season.
Excuse me did you just skip over VGC 2016? You know, where Infernape made TOP 8 AT WORLDS? (and I got a much less impressive Top 16 at a Regional with it)
Gautam Sarathy milotic is my all time favourite but infernapes my all time favourite starter and i think it has the best design ever. but milotic will always hold a spot in my heart
Ahh...False Swipe Gaming. One of the nowadays very few TH-camrs out there who put out consistent content. Cheers, I´ve liked every video of yours so far, and won´t stop!
Not going to lie, really disappointed you didn't mention Scarf Infernape's rise during late SM as a check to both Volcarona and Magearna, as well as just spamming through offensive teams in general thanks to how useful its Fire STAB was. Also Endeavor Infernape's niche during the HO meta back in XY.
people realized that scarf greninja was just a better revenge killer. not against magearna but still beat common sweepers like afprementioned volcarona, gyarados, zard x, lando
pkfire Magearna was a top tier threat who straight up 6-0d bulky offense at +2 speed without a mon like Nape that could outspeed and revenge kill. Not only that but Nape could beat the same mons Gren could including Scarf Gren with Mach and could switch in on Zard Y while it was relevant. It’s 100% worth a mention. Infernape has always been a mon that could never break through the power creep but managed to find uses through its versatility that made it meaningful.
@@Quickbobhero agreed, however nape did definitely lose its niche in ou but is undoubtedly a monster in uu. magearna DOES have both offensive and defensive checks and counters depending on its move, so using scarf nape in ou might not be a good idea. you got scarf chomp, zard x, mega mawile, and on the defensive side u have celesteela for gear lacking tbolt, tangrowth for gear lacking beam/ used fleur, ferrothorn and heatran which take focus blasts, chansey, so on and so forth.
I've watched all of these and this is made the best yet. You put so much detail into these you and your team's effort really shows. Keep up these awesome vids and thanks for doing my favorite Pokemon.
Infernape is my fav, I use a Mixape in my showndown team, named Goku, but kinda embarrassed by how it gets outshined by some other members like Rip&Tear the mega Sharpedo & Totallynotanalien the Clefable. Hardly gets chances to sweep, easily gets countered ToT This video does a great job explaining why and explaining the competitive history of my fav pokemon, great job dude!
Loved the video, man! Infernape is definitely a great Pokemon with one of the most diverse move pools and you did a great job going into so much amazing detail. Keep up the good work! Who thinks Linoone will be picked for the patreon pick? I'd love to see this guy get a review
Just want to add that I won a regional in VGC16 with Infernape. The team also had a Cottonee. Infernape also got top 8 at Worlds in 16 on Justin Carris' team.
Honestly, this video just reminded me even more of how much I miss Gen 4. Before hyper ridiculous power creep and broken alternate abilities and broken items, before legendaries and mythics became event or wormhole fodder with no special feel to them, back when multiple unique Pokémon had multiple entertaining options because the balance was fair enough to at least experiment with certain sets...
Charlie. Gen. 4 - Gen. 5 were the golden eras for Pokemon IMO. Even though Gen. 1 - 3 were the start and are quite alright ( except Gen. 1 because of an broken new ) and Gen. 6 - 8 were OK at there shot into 3D, Gen. 4 - Gen. 5 was when they put alot of effort into the quality and effort into the series and I still go back to them anyday.
@@jaretco6423 gen 5 was great, dont get me wrong The only real issue i have with it is the insane amount of power creep. If it didnt bring quite as many OP new things, it would be right up there with gen 3, my favourite gen of pokemon
Charles. Fair enough. But I'm not that much of an competitor. So I really don't care about that. Nor it isn't really an issue. It's just an personal taste of opinion. And besides, Gen. 5 didn't have that much O.P. new things. And even if they're were, it ain't that O.P. compared to say Mega Evolution or Z-Moves that breaks the battle system from being balanced. I just thought Gen. 5 balanced the game enough.
@@jaretco6423 most megas were awesome, but I agree Z-moves weren't exactly the best idea Mega evolution brought new life into pokemon like mawile and sableye, and if gamefreak restricted megas to weak pokemon, which was the original purpose, they would have been damn near perfect But yeah, I do play competitive, so things like power creep bother me a bit more than your average player
Kinda disappointed that you left out 'Ape's Gen 5 role as one of the better sun-based breakers. Seriously, those banded, sun-boosted flare blitzes were no laughing matter.
@@pkfire5790 im pretty sure he does 0.o 189 attack at level 50 with 140 speed is nothing to laugh at. I use darmanitan all the time cause he hits a lot harder in my opinion
@@frenchiee_96 but nape has a better movepool and is way faster. darmanitan speed ties with other base 100s so hes not a reliable revenge killer like scarf nape
Yes! So glad that my most favourite Pokemon of all time is doing well competitively. Maybe in the future, you guys should do their viability in BDSP OU and VGC. Like why Scizor was number 1 in BDSP OU. I also love your channel! Thanks for always giving us viewers such awesome content! 😁
Mike Warper Oh god I hated Grotel. Lived Turtwig and Torterra, but Grotle... With Grotle I was even considering just evolving Torterra and then replacing it. But then I got Torterra. And my god I LOVED it!
Also greninja was barely visible at first and also was an ex machina that felt worse then infernape's ex machinas. At least i fernape's ability makes sense for that
Man I loved using a 6v6 Setup Lead Infernape. Stealth Rock Fake Out Overheat Close Combat Naive Nature with 252/6/252 in Att/SpAtt/Speed was great. In ORAS it was the first competitive pokemon I breed.
Then in next gen blaziken got mega but still even after 4 gens later infernape didn't got any buff. It didn't even get belly drum even though it's an ape. Gamefreak sure does hate infernape or maybe they hate whole gen 4 starters
I like it: we weren't sick of its typing yet; is literally named goku; good move pool; lots of utility. got my approval. ( It's one of my 2 go to Sinnoh Choices )
That’s yet another Pokémon on this show that has fallen off the map, not because it’s bad or anything, but because of stupidly insane Power Creep. OU is Goddamned mess in Gen 7.
IMO OU is practically Uber 1 and the tiers lower are their tiers below it, there's so many Pokemon with 95+ average stats, that you could just make an SS tier now after S (OU), hehe.
While Infernape was a victim of power creep, it can still do its job decently. I use it with Flare Blitz, Close Combat, U-turn and a coverage move alongside Choice scarf, and it is ok. When I was a kid, I gave it a KingRock in my 1st Pokemon Pearl playthrough. Speeking of KingRock: How good was Regirock ACTUALLY? No one can stop the Rock!
Before speed boost: infernape is the best fire/fighting starter, blowing the doors off of emboar and outclassing blaziken When blaziken got speed boost and mega: now blaziken greatly outclasses infernape, is not only the best fire fighting starter but is the best starter period.
Since Empoloen and Torterra have terrible speed, Infernape can use close combat to wreck Empoloen and Fire Blast to wreck Torterra despite both of them having a type advantage on Infernape, but focus sash is the only way to save their ass.
Infernape is still one of my favorite Gen 4 Pokemon, I just think it's pretty badass and actually good (not as good nowadays but still it can't really be called bad).
So basically, Infernape's metagame prowess was reflective of its anime prowess; in Gen IV, it was the star Pokémon in the anime, picking up wins left and right under Ash's ownership, with the pinnacle being beating half of Paul's team in the League, but come Gen V, it was cast aside into the shadows never to be seen again
I use an Infernape in competitive Black & White OU as a lead in a balanced Spikes team and its amazing! Iron Fist Infernape is in my opinion one of the best Quiver Dance Volcarona COUNTERS (Not checks) in the game! It has a lot of potential! Give it a try. Thanks for the great video, Infernape is one of my favorite pokemon so it's great to hear that Infernape was, just like you said "Pretty good" (:
I tried it in a tournament and it was one of the most deadweight Pokémon I’ve ever seen. It literally just didn’t do anything against half the teams i faced, and the other half made it so infernape could never get onto the field safely making me play 5 Pokémon against 6
I'm biased because it was my first starter but Infernape is one of my favourites for sure. Which is why it hurt and still hurts to see it being neglected and then left behind entirely. And calling the Sinnoh remakes "faithful" was just an excuse to give the Sinnoh starters nothing new. Wasn't it GF?
Sinnoh remakes were made by another company, but I agree that Sinnoh starters were criminally neglected, and being fire monkey my favorite pokemon I'm very angry, specially when compared with Blaziken
I actually used Piplup for my first playthrough of Platinum. Infernape was the last one I picked, iirc. I honestly think that Infernape will soar to the top again with a new mega evolution (unless they REALLY botch it like with Sceptile)
Pretty good timing as my Monferno, named Chimpow, just evolved into Infernape the other day in Pokemon Platinum. Easily my favorite Starter Pokemon and my favorite of Ash's Fire Types.
@Golin punch I think I swapped Mach Punch for Close Combat just cause higher power, but looking back, I probably should have kept Mach Punch (priority) or taught it Brick Break. I did end up transferring my Platinum team over to Black 2. So now I can teach it Brick Break or have it relearn Mach Punch through Heart Scale.
This makes me reminisce on how nasty Infernape was as a lead in gen 4! With a focus sash on he could not only 1v1 other focus sash users but also set up rocks and hit both sides with overheat and close combat! Absolutely beast
Would it be possible to include draft league formats in videos, at least for the most recent gen (7)? I feel like it could be nice especially with some of the "weaker" pokemon to showcase ways they can still be good, rather than just relegating them to PU or whatever in some cases
I loved using it with Shadow Claw. Very helpful against Psychic types and had a good critical hit chance. Later on I taught mine Acrobatics which gains more damage without a held item.
I honestly hope in the future for Competitive Infernape, it at least makes its way back up in OU! While UU isn't that bad I wouldn't consider it too good either! Maybe with a Mega it can combine the effects of most items it has into it's stats and who knows maybe toss Infernape a couple of bones! If I were to choose any pokemon of any tier to use, it'd be Infernape, I would like to find some kind of use for it!
Infernape was nice and all, but I really wish he didn’t feel so mandatory in the Sinnoh games due to the total lack of other Fire types. The Piplup and Turtwig lines are both in my top five favorite starters ever based on design and unique typing but it feels so hard to use either of them compared to easy mode Chimchar.
Can confirm I have chosen the fire monkey as my starter first time around for D/P. Once platinum came out and we had a better selection of fire types, I went with Torterra.
Before the video even starts, as a veteran of 4th gen competitive, this thing was a monster. Mix Ape had no true counters. Its versatility with move pool made it impossible to switch into safely if they predict well. Close combat OHKOs blissey, flamethrower handles skarm, grass knot for swampert, thunder punch for gyara and starmie, HP ice handles dragons. This thing was a serious pain to deal with on par with Lando T of today.
@Clint Yeastwood about a close as you can come. The thing is that mixape has the potential to deal big damage to anything switching in with good prediction.
Infernape's movepool was so good, it better support moves (Fake Out, Stealth Rock, Taunt, Helping hand) and even a RECOVERY MOVE (Slack off) that many defensive Pokemon wish they had.
ATTENTION!
Hey, it's Kellen.
I missed some MAJOR Placements for Infernape for 2016. It actually has quite a bit of notable Regional, National, and World's placements. Thank you to Nerd of Now for pointing it out.
I deeply and sincerely apologize for missing these placements despite taking more than the usual time to make this video. This video would probably be 3-4 minutes longer had I known about these placements. Also yes, this means Infernape was pretty good in 2016 despite what I said in the video.
Anyways, here we go:
2016:
trainertower.com/taiwan-nationals-2016/ 劉X安 易安 placed 1st at the Taiwan Nationals
trainertower.com/north-american-regionals-spring-series/ Ashton Cox placed 3rd at the Massachusetts Regionals
trainertower.com/european-regionals-united-kingdom/ Jamie Boyt placed 1st at the Liverpool Regionals
trainertower.com/asia-pacific-regionals-australia/ Francis D’Souza placed 5th at the Perth Regionals
And of course, trainertower.com/2016-world-championships/, Justin Carris made it to 5th at Worlds with Infernape on his team!. You can watch him use it in a match here: th-cam.com/video/eVTG3FfPpw8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for reading. Again, I am very sorry I missed these.
And you also forgot that infernapes defense and special defense stats were decrease to 69 both and it's special attack and attack stat increased to 106 each because of that.
@@funnybones7771 i think u forgot in BW infernape was an amazing wallbreaker in the sun, banded nape spamming flare blitz did so much damage to everything
no worries. also, do grumpig
@@funnybones7771 did it? all i see is 71 and 104 online and on smogon
I think u forgot that in sun and moon, it had a defense stat of 69, special D of 69, attack of 106, and special A of 106.
Other Fire Starters : Bro, Special or Physical?
Infernape : MOVE IS MOVE
I mean, Blaziken has higher physical and special attack than Infernape. So it can definitely go mixed.
Just Another Handy Infernape takes advantage of Mix attacking better due to its Speed which is better than other Fire Starters.
@@bryanc1772 Blaziken: *Laughs in Speed Boost*
@@owentithof Infernape has more type coverage
@@justinwiebe8327 they are The same type
Paul was basically a competitive player when I think about it lol
Edit: I think a lot of people forget that the anime doesn’t usually follow the game’s logic because stats are the way that they are for balancing purposes and generally do not reflect the lore of a Pokémon
more like a jerkish meta slave.
Neko Medic Aka most competitive players?
@@MasterPpv
That is unfair
I use outdated teams with diggersby in the 16hundreds
He's was more a plain douchebag, really, since his team was far from "competitive" if you think about it. In fact, the funny thing is that Ash technically used a more competitive team than Paul during D/P which is incredibly ironic.
He doesn't even know how to use infernape
"Now, unless Incineroar is sucked into a black hole, it seems that Infernape's days of VGC are behind it."
A black hole *almost* appeared in the form of Generation 8, but Incineroar managed to escape it and threw Infernape in there instead.
Infernape will probably gain something in the DP remacks
+ since it's introduction it was OU/UU imagine it gaining something like a mega or an ability such as adaptability it will became a beast
It would probably be in uber
As for inceneroar it is probably my favorite gen 7 pokemon but it is OP in VGC only
There is an entire world between it and infernape in singles
Inceneroar is in NU even there it is outclassed
As for infernape it is the best fire type in GEN 7 UU
Jack Holdcroft your comment should be:”Now unless Incineroar is sucked into a black hole,it seems that Infernape’s days of VGC are behind it” A black hole appeared in the form of Generation 8,but Incineroar managed to escape it but Infernape got sucked in not Incineroar and Incineroar is still amazing in VGC.
LMAO Incineroar banned
@@laxusstrauss5945 There will not be D/P remakes, it's going to be Let's Go Gold/Silver.
@@RandalfElVikingo it's not confirmed tho
Even if it will be a let's go
DP remacks are a current project
Paul is like everyone of us. He wants the perfect nature, perfect IVs, perfect stats diverse movepool
George Burner exactly. he wanted the best unlike ash that wanted to just be bffs smh
Yeah, because any competitive trainer would give up infernape and have their best offensivr pokemon be electivire.
@@jacobhowell406 Well, paul does prove ash wrong at their match at the lake. Ash did his best effort, even got a emotional mid-battle evolution from his Chimchar and the Blaze ability triggerred... and still lost.
Just being bffs clearly wasnt enough. Ash HAD to amp his game. Hell, Sinnoh is the region where he develops more strategies: Countershield, Ice Aqua Jet, full roster for the league, etc. Ash kept to his ideals AND implemented some of his rival philosophy, and it was great.
Sebastián Chávez Um no, Blaze was never activated in their battle at Lake Acuity, Reggie clearly says that it was just Monferno’s determination to win(even though it lost)
Eric Herrera my mistake then thanks for clarifying
Then Blaze was only triggered in the league i guess
I remember spamming mach punch at every living thing
WorkInProgressX oraoraora
that and drain punch
@@MrGuy-xq5uv it doesn't get drain punch
@@adamtheriault6743 I honestly mightve been thinking of lucario which can learn it via tm
I was close combat guy it sounded cool lul
Half of the video is about Gen 4 singles. It literally was the Golden era for Infernape.
gen 6 and 7 uu is still god for infernape, as its still a top tier threat
@TheSeventhForce it still is really versatile, id argue even more versatile now
I noticed it too. The slow realization of how insane it was has been terrifying
It is top tier UU now
+ The UU tier of today is the OU of gen 5-6
Too bad Blaziken got Speed Boost...
*you've commited to a trio*
*Please choose between Empoleon and Torterra*
NEVER TORTERRA
Whishcash
@@funnybones7771 ALWAYS TORTERRA
ok then.
empoleon
Man, Infernape was really one of those pokemon that received something similar to the Tauros treatment.
Amazing in the gen it was introduced in, but sadly started to fall off after the power creep of the following generations. The difference is that at least he's still viable in UU, while Tauros is nowhere to be found.
GF has not been kind to Tauros with the generations... Like even though it has an amazing HA in Sheer Force it can't actually use it without Gen 1 VC transfer or special Dream World Tauros from gen 5 with Rock Climb Otherwise the best you can do is Secret Power import from ORAS.... Of course even getting that wouldn't be enough to redeem the guy so yeah...
not similar at all. infernapes been consistently good and is one of the best mons in gen 6 and 7 uu
@@Dragrath1 Being a male only pokemon with no prevolutions, alternate evoultions, or female counterparts means Tauros only has half the moveset it could have.
True. But, at least Infernape does stay strong in UU compared to Tauros, who is just an outdated relic from Gen 1.
ShadowtitanX yeah Infernape is still amazing main reason it’s UU is majority of OU have stat totals of 600 for real only like 12 out of 38 Pokemon in OU aren’t mega or legendary
Players: Why the hell is Infernape so good?!
Infernape: “There are literally only 5 fire Pokémon in my generation.... and I was two of them.”
Hmmm is that the reason it's uu even in gen7. That's a just a excuse for hating on infernape
Doesn't make sense
@@DavideKuras They had to make fire types good this Gen because there’s so few of them.
@@joshuawilliams4741 then why is sunflora so bad in original gold silver . It was one of the few grass type last stage before elite four
@@sinnohperson8813
First, the best comparison would be Meganium, since that was one of the Starter Pokémon in the game.
Second, Meganium is trash too. Gen 2 was not the time for Grass Pokémon.
Not only is next week's a Patreon pick but he's said before that' he's no longer using the comments section for voting.
And of course people use the comments section for voting.
God FUCKING damnit. I can't pay $ for videos
@@rejvaik00 I think you have to use the comments on community tab now, so you don't need to pay
He was tens of thousands of viewers. Some of them, like me, never heard that message.
› Has thousands of viewers participate by voting in the comments for over a year
› Expects none of them to do it again after 2 announcements
I'll be honest, I posted a comment too. I just forgot so maybe others did as well
I love how versitile the mon is. It's amazing choiced scarf, banded, specs, life orb, z moves, expert belt. It can be used for so much, really like it and no wonder it was so good throughout four different generations now
Seems crazy it never got a mega. Guess itd just be a worse mega blazakin though.
@@robertharris6092 i think they are just waiting for Sinnoh remakes to give It and the other 4th gen starters a mega , they probably don't care if it is going to be just a worse mega blaziken
It's really not that good nowadays with how much harder hitting and faster the meta has become. Mega-Mence being everywhere makes Infernape borderline impossible to use now.
I personally think Infernape needs 2 Megas, 1 for Physical Attackers, the other for Special Attacking just like Charizard. Is it wrong to think of my Special Attacker Infernape as a saiyan firing powerful Kamehamehas when Sunny Day is in effect?
joshua kim Infernape still does very well in UU so it's still a really good mon
How BAD was the *_comment section_* actually?
(pretty bad)
It's sorta viewers just ignored what False said and just went straight back to cluttering up the comments with requests.
While it was nice while it lasted, now the comments might be virtually the same thing in future videos.
(EDIT: Not saying suggestions/requests are bad, just don't want an influx.)
Can he use something to detect and delete those comments? It's getting annoying.
Welp, I guess some of the viewers never learn...
Espeaking of which, where do we comment on our choice now? He had a single comment chain for it last time right? Just a question.
Edit: Nevermind saw answer in comments. Thank you.
@@Zek3nator I don't see the point of posting it anywhere. I can't imagine being so hopelessly tied to a certain Pokemon that you'll diarrhea it's name on every video until a video gets made on it. Let FSG do what they do, enjoy the in depth commentary, and stop vomiting Pokemon names
Infernape is my favorite Pokemon hands down I love his design and his moveset and playstyle. Really want a mega evolution I could definitely see a Sun wu Kong Infernape complete with a staff
i got u bro. I already came up with a design of a thing i made called "true form". Also Infernape is also my favorite mon.
Or Infernape with golden flame hair instead
Yeah I agree. I love infernape because of its personality and the fact it's so good in battle. It's my favourite starter
@Luis Martinez I think he means in the anime
Same. Nothing beats infernape getting to snowpoint
Considering that Chimchar was one of 5 Fire evolution lines available in Diamond and Pearl before national dex. You really didnt have much of a choice for fire types besides that one
I still need to play D/P. I almost never run fire types, so it would be a great set for me.
Actually that is Platinum in Diamond and Pearl it was actually one of only TWO fire type lines available the Other Being Ponyta.... Yeah even though the generation added a fire type legend it was of course post game only because GF. In Platinum the dex was expanded by adding the Magby, Houndour and Eevee lines before post game.
@@IceBlueLugia uhhh
Assuming you didn't super grind for monferno for fighting moves VS roark it beats:
Gym 2, Grass, Your stabs one shot all the mons here
Gym 3, Malenes Lucario
Gym 4, Quagsire (with grassknot)
gym 6, Steel, Your stabs one shot all the mons here
Gym 7, Ice, Your Stabs one shot all the mons here
Gym 8, Switch your set to SD and run EQ, it will be useful here on out
Elite 4, Bug, The only threat is drapion. You could run SD EQ though.
Elite 4, Fire, Goes even, wins with SD EQ
Cynthia, Roserade, Lucario and gastrodon with grass knot. Can revenge kill garchomp with its better speed but can't ohko.
@@IceBlueLugia I never said they are needed, I was simply pointing out how great infernapes line was. I mean you can technically catch a bidoof at route I grind it till the highest level before it obeys before every gym and win easily with X items + Simple
AbdallahSmash026#1Fan the problem is more of the fact that a generation should have a balanced amount of types available regardless of difficulty, like how hoenn had so many water types but didn’t have only 2 or 3 grass types. The variety of types is what matters and without that the game can feel dull and empty to most people
Complete FSG evaluation for now (and this time I remembered about Smeargle):
1. Charizard - pretty decent
2. Venusaur - consistently good
3. Unown - I don't know, who cares
4. Blastoise - very, very mediocre
5. Dragonite - incredible
6. Starmie - great
7. Snorlax - edge early on, but later dropped off
8. Gengar - phenomenal
9. Alakazam - great start, but later pushed down
10. Gyarados - pretty good
11. Chansey/Blissey - one of the best Pokemon
12. Machamp - decent
13. Arcanine - wasn't a bad Pokemon, wasn't a top threat
14. Lapras - not that good
15. Articuno - even more not that good
16. Zapdos - pretty damn good
17. Moltres - better than I expected
18. Tauros - it were rough two decades for him
19. Aerodactyl - decent
20. Nidoking - pretty good
21. Scizor - great
22. Tyranitar - was and is amazing
23. Rhydon/Rhyperior - decent, at least for a bit
24. Shuckle - bad, until maybe gen six
25. Heracross - honestly, it was pretty good
26. Smeargle - pretty good
27. Skarmory - amazing, in singles
28. Golbat/Crobat - OK
29. Slowbro - pretty good
30. Wigglytuff - outclassed
31. Porygon/Porygon2 - Porygon sucked, but Porygon2 was pretty good
32. Porygon-Z - OK
33. Seadra/Kingdra - hard to say, OK, I guess? Seadra just kinda sucked, really
34. Onix/Steelix - Onix was outclassed, Steelix started out well, but never really got anything
35. Azumarill - certainly wasn't a Pokegod, but once it got its combination, it was terryfying
36. Magneton/Magnezone - pretty good, especially after evolving
37. Sneasel/Weavile - Sneasel was pretty bad, but Weavile was pretty good
38. Poliwrath - not great
39. Espeon - hard to say, potentially one of the strongest non-uber Pokemon
40. Umbreon - pretty decent
41. Ampharos - wasn't that good
42. Cloyster - pretty damn good
43. Houndoom - a little underwhelming
44. Togetic/Togekiss - Togetic f**king sucked, but Togekiss was pretty damn good
45. Pikachu - pretty bad
46. Raichu - pretty bad
47. Breloom - pretty amazing, to be honest
48. Garchomp - in a word, amazing
49. Gardevoir - up and down
50. Gligar/Gliscor - Gligar wasn't great, but Gliscor was awesome
51. Feraligatr - it depends, kinda well, not great, but certainly not atrocious
52. Typhlosion - not great
53. Quagsire - man, I don't f**king know
54. Meganium - sucks
55. Dunsparce - sucked
56. Donphan - pretty dang average
57. Jolteon - for most of its life, really good
58. Vaporeon - pretty good
59. Flareon - sucked and still sucks
60. Metagross - incredible
61. Salamence - amazing
62. Swampert - good
63. Blaziken - probably best starter of all time... for now
64. Wobbuffet - hard to say
65. Sceptile - pretty below average
66. Clefable - dramatically shifting its whole life, nowadays strong placement
67. Tentacruel - OK, for a while
68. Jumpluff - honestly not very good, but better than you might expect
69. Exeggutor - steepest decline of all covered Pokemon
70. Mewtwo - you're kidding, right?
71. Mew - really good
72. Lucario - really strong
73. Kangaskhan - OK
74. Flygon - never face of the tier, but always important and defining
75. Milotic - proud representative of its kind
76. Dugtrio - once it gain Arena Trap, it become the force
77. Suicune - as good as it is regal
78. Raikou - pretty good
79. Entei - not that good
80. Marowak - had a bone or two to pick
81. Ninetales - not very good at all
82. Gallade - pretty decent
83. Tangela/Tangrowth - Tangela was among the most forgettable Pokemon, but once it evolved, it become the damn important pick
84. Electabuzz/Electivire - for the most part, quite bad
85. Magmar/Magmortar - not good, like, ever
86. Misdreavus/Mismagius - OK
87. Pidgeot - bland, until mega made it viable
88. Persian - sucked after first generation
89. Roselia/Roserade - pre-evo wasn't great, Roserade was
90. Weezing - always decent, at least in the lower tiers
91. Ledian - one of the worst Pokemon of all time
92. Muk - pretty alright
93. Delibird - one of the worst competitive Pokemon in history
94. Piloswine/Mamoswine - Piloswine was underrated, but since it evolved, it become the wrecking ball
95. Froslass - definition of a specialised Pokemon
96. Beedrill - until it got mega, one of the worst Pokemon, but after, one of the most important in UU
97. Celebi - great, great Pokemon
98. Aggron - pretty much on the below average side
99. Lugia - every bit as good and some as in other media
100. Infernape - overall, pretty good
I think alolan ninetales got a lil' bit of redemption at the end with its aurora veil.
@@Sombres We're already at 100?!
@@Sombres The problem with Alolan formes is it doesn't help the base Pokemon out in the first place. Really it got stat screwed hard which is telling in that part of what made A-Ninetales as effective as it was was moving some of the unused attack to speed.
It has always bothered me that regular Ninetales counterpart Arcanine gets an extra 50 BST total not to mention how it got screwed over in the special split... Plus I noticed its old dex entries mention it placing curses which only ghost types can do so it probably should have been made part ghost but alas Curse wasn't made until gen 2....
@@The_Mister_E Yup, we are.
@@Sombres same for muk
Infernape's gen5 backsprite is a masterpiece
The Gen 4 segment is longer than Typlosion's entire video and Typlosion is two gens earlier. Hoo boy. It's also slightly longer than Kangaskhan, a Gen 1 pokemon
Typhlosion
those pokemon barely changed... just wait until Landorus-T gets a video...
M3rtyville several hours later* and so in gen 7...
@@deeznoots6241 and now gen 8 too
Infernape is my fav mon. I wish this guys get anything like mega evo or something in the future.
It has so much potential
Exactly
I want empoleon mega evolution with a royal cloak land trident like a king
@DF AMO Yes it does.
He cutted
@@puteradarmasulaimanmarwan702 I'm pissed. I should've bought DQ11:E!
This was my ace Pokemon. My first Pokemon was an accidental Shiny Chimchar(Adamant).
The dislikes came from Frieza and his henchmen.
I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE
lol
Lol
loL
and Cooler. And King Cold. And Chilled.
Remember everyone: DON'T use the comment section to ask for the next Pokemon. Use the community tab on his channel.
Thanks.
Nah, they will keep being as annoying as possible. This is youtube after all
@@superchrissybros.6236 very true sadly lol
@@superchrissybros.6236 I don't even think people care about the actual video and just want their request shown.
@@spectral5939 True that. I think he should just disable comments at this point.
I learned my lesson
*How GOOD was [Insert Patreon vote] ACTUALLY?*
*I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*
Not gonna lie, that’s actually pretty funny.
I agree!
By the way what is the patreon pick
[Insert Patreon Vote] was always annoying because it always chose "Derpy" Pokemon :P
Landorous therian
Infernape is a prime example of how strong power creep was in gen 5
and metagross now. its depressing yow it went to ru
I would say the power creep in Gen 6.
Remember when there were videos summing up the entirity of a pokemons competitive history in the time it takes to talk about infernapes gen 4 singles life... how far we have come...
Better or worse?
@@sebastianlucas704 depends on the pokemon covered like for infernape it's great
Not quite a surprise since it was so good in gen 4, but, did anyone notice that gen 4 coverage is about 60% of this video?
Did some calculation, FSG starts covering gen 5 at 12:47. Video ends at 20:57, so that means 767 seconds / 1257 seconds * 100% = approx. 61.0% time spent.
That was quite spot on!
Be honest
You loved Ash's Infernape and it vs Paul.
Gen 4 had the best battles minus them having to rush out the ending of the league due to needing to advertise Gen 5 ASAP
That battle is probably one of the most satisfying battles in the entire anime, and one of my favorite moments overall. It felt so satisfying to see that Infernape that Paul abused and called weak as a Chimchar knock him down at the Pokémon League of all places
Yes
That’s what makes me love Infernape. It’s story arc was one of the best in the anime, if not the best.
While Charizard is my favorite fire starter Ash owns because reasons, Infernape always had the best character story as it went through the whole season.
Excuse me did you just skip over VGC 2016?
You know, where Infernape made TOP 8 AT WORLDS?
(and I got a much less impressive Top 16 at a Regional with it)
Also Jamie Boyts regional win with cottonnee also had Infernape on that team
weird flex
nerd of now VGC LULW
@Zack Grey *King Kong wants to know your location*
> 20 Minutes
*Oh, boy*
12, 6 and 3 for the gens
Hey at least it’s not mewtwo episode long
No it's not it's 20:58 seconds
I heard that Infernape + Giratina was an interesting combo in VGC 2010 with Close Combat and Shadow Force, destroying a target on the enemy team.
Huh, didn't even know Infernape could learn Slack Off, let alone have it be notably used from time to time.
suprisingly, mixape still uses it to puvot into scizor more
Snorlax should learn slack off
Owen Baker I think he’d be too good in doubles if he had slack off
@@Ob1tuber it should, but trust me you dont want that
But all that snorlax does is well SLACK OFF
If Torterra or Empoleon doesn't make it in next week, we'll riot.
Tbf it could be the patron pick next
@PizzaBagelRoger
No.
It will be Bidoof
You said it💙
Eh, no we won't. We'll just vote again lol
@@AceOfVegas I was trying to hyperbolize a bit there.
Infernape will always be my favorite Pokemon.
Gautam Sarathy milotic is my all time favourite but infernapes my all time favourite starter and i think it has the best design ever. but milotic will always hold a spot in my heart
Same bro infernape is my all time favorite.
Obviously
Same here, Infernape is the goat!
Same, infernape is my favorite pokemon of all time,he was my first pokemon because i started pokemon with pokemon diamond, he have a spot in my heart
Wow. I can't believe just gen 4 is over half the video. Fantastic work and dedication dude, y'all deserve a break after that.
Ahh...False Swipe Gaming.
One of the nowadays very few TH-camrs out there who put out consistent content.
Cheers, I´ve liked every video of yours so far, and won´t stop!
Not going to lie, really disappointed you didn't mention Scarf Infernape's rise during late SM as a check to both Volcarona and Magearna, as well as just spamming through offensive teams in general thanks to how useful its Fire STAB was.
Also Endeavor Infernape's niche during the HO meta back in XY.
people realized that scarf greninja was just a better revenge killer. not against magearna but still beat common sweepers like afprementioned volcarona, gyarados, zard x, lando
pkfire Magearna was a top tier threat who straight up 6-0d bulky offense at +2 speed without a mon like Nape that could outspeed and revenge kill. Not only that but Nape could beat the same mons Gren could including Scarf Gren with Mach and could switch in on Zard Y while it was relevant.
It’s 100% worth a mention. Infernape has always been a mon that could never break through the power creep but managed to find uses through its versatility that made it meaningful.
@@Quickbobhero agreed, however nape did definitely lose its niche in ou but is undoubtedly a monster in uu. magearna DOES have both offensive and defensive checks and counters depending on its move, so using scarf nape in ou might not be a good idea. you got scarf chomp, zard x, mega mawile, and on the defensive side u have celesteela for gear lacking tbolt, tangrowth for gear lacking beam/ used fleur, ferrothorn and heatran which take focus blasts, chansey, so on and so forth.
HO meta what was that
The video we all wanted; but didn’t deserve. Thank you, FSG.
I didn't even know I wanted it. My infernape was just a HM Slave. I never knew...
Nah m8 that was the blaziken vid
Killer queen has already touched the comment section
Paul vs Ash is easily one of my favorite fight, tbh everything about sinnoh region was perfect
r/unexpectedjojo
no u
Ash was so good in the Shinnoh league, the writers had to literally write in a deux ex machina trainer to beat him.
@@aceclover758 not only that they choosed some of his worst pokémon to again against tobias torkel had no business being a choice and some others.
*Autistic midget explosion noises
My number one favorite pokemon! Now I know how people feel when their favorite mon is given spotlight in these.
it's a bit of a special feeling. I like it.
I've watched all of these and this is made the best yet. You put so much detail into these you and your team's effort really shows. Keep up these awesome vids and thanks for doing my favorite Pokemon.
Infernape is my fav, I use a Mixape in my showndown team, named Goku, but kinda embarrassed by how it gets outshined by some other members like Rip&Tear the mega Sharpedo & Totallynotanalien the Clefable.
Hardly gets chances to sweep, easily gets countered ToT
This video does a great job explaining why and explaining the competitive history of my fav pokemon, great job dude!
Basically gen 4 infernape can do everything and is absolutely amazing. Reminds me of Lando T. See you next week with Empoleon!
Infernape defeating Empoleon
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Matt Heitmann landorus t can, provided nobody uses mamoswine
Loved the video, man! Infernape is definitely a great Pokemon with one of the most diverse move pools and you did a great job going into so much amazing detail. Keep up the good work! Who thinks Linoone will be picked for the patreon pick? I'd love to see this guy get a review
Just want to add that I won a regional in VGC16 with Infernape. The team also had a Cottonee.
Infernape also got top 8 at Worlds in 16 on Justin Carris' team.
Most other Fire Types: You can either be Physical or Special, not both.
Infernape: Who decided that?
I think Infernape seriously has 4MSS
it seriously wishes it had 6 moveslots instead of 4
Mewtwo would adore this change
I wish pokemon had atleast 5 move slots!
You missed Infernape's Top 8 finish at 2016 Worlds when talking about Gen 6 VGC! I'd say that's a very notable finish.
Like how they made Infernape's stance Goku's stance when he fights. Nice little nod to their shared inspiration.
The only thing that's changed is that instead of seeing _only_ vote comments, we see vote comments _and_ complaints about vote comments.
Wack.
ye sounds about right
Honestly, this video just reminded me even more of how much I miss Gen 4. Before hyper ridiculous power creep and broken alternate abilities and broken items, before legendaries and mythics became event or wormhole fodder with no special feel to them, back when multiple unique Pokémon had multiple entertaining options because the balance was fair enough to at least experiment with certain sets...
Gen 3-4 was the golden era of pokemon
Still a great game series, but undoubtably worse than it was.
Charlie. Gen. 4 - Gen. 5 were the golden eras for Pokemon IMO. Even though Gen. 1 - 3 were the start and are quite alright ( except Gen. 1 because of an broken new ) and Gen. 6 - 8 were OK at there shot into 3D, Gen. 4 - Gen. 5 was when they put alot of effort into the quality and effort into the series and I still go back to them anyday.
@@jaretco6423 gen 5 was great, dont get me wrong
The only real issue i have with it is the insane amount of power creep.
If it didnt bring quite as many OP new things, it would be right up there with gen 3, my favourite gen of pokemon
Charles. Fair enough. But I'm not that much of an competitor. So I really don't care about that. Nor it isn't really an issue. It's just an personal taste of opinion. And besides, Gen. 5 didn't have that much O.P. new things. And even if they're were, it ain't that O.P. compared to say Mega Evolution or Z-Moves that breaks the battle system from being balanced. I just thought Gen. 5 balanced the game enough.
@@jaretco6423 most megas were awesome, but I agree Z-moves weren't exactly the best idea
Mega evolution brought new life into pokemon like mawile and sableye, and if gamefreak restricted megas to weak pokemon, which was the original purpose, they would have been damn near perfect
But yeah, I do play competitive, so things like power creep bother me a bit more than your average player
13 minutes dedicated to his debut generation because of how versatile it was
Good stuff
You totally skipped over VGC 2016. Infernape made it to Top 8 at Worlds that year!
Yeah, he did
Kinda disappointed that you left out 'Ape's Gen 5 role as one of the better sun-based breakers. Seriously, those banded, sun-boosted flare blitzes were no laughing matter.
exactly what i said, banded nape in the sun was an absolute nuke
@@pkfire5790 doesnt darmanitan hit harder when scarfed anyways?
@@frenchiee_96 no
@@pkfire5790 im pretty sure he does 0.o 189 attack at level 50 with 140 speed is nothing to laugh at. I use darmanitan all the time cause he hits a lot harder in my opinion
@@frenchiee_96 but nape has a better movepool and is way faster. darmanitan speed ties with other base 100s so hes not a reliable revenge killer like scarf nape
Yes! So glad that my most favourite Pokemon of all time is doing well competitively. Maybe in the future, you guys should do their viability in BDSP OU and VGC. Like why Scizor was number 1 in BDSP OU.
I also love your channel!
Thanks for always giving us viewers such awesome content! 😁
Love the Bojack Horseman reference in the beginning lol
As a Torterra fan, I'm not looking forward to him being inevitably torn apart here
Mike Warper Oh god I hated Grotel.
Lived Turtwig and Torterra, but Grotle...
With Grotle I was even considering just evolving Torterra and then replacing it.
But then I got Torterra.
And my god I LOVED it!
At least he's better than Meganium.
Mike Warper he isn’t THAT bad he isn’t PU after all but he isn’t the best tbh however I still love it
It's still better than Meganium & Sceptile at the least.
Best Pokemon Ash ever had.
*_CHANGE MY MIND_*
Greninja
@@Freeeeeeeee27
Infernape has a better win loss record.
Can't deny. Infernape had more character and devolopment than all of Ash's other Pokemon.
Also greninja was barely visible at first and also was an ex machina that felt worse then infernape's ex machinas. At least i fernape's ability makes sense for that
Ash Greninja was based off Infernape's blaze and when we get those sinnoh remakes I'm pretty sure he'll return
Man I loved using a 6v6 Setup Lead Infernape.
Stealth Rock
Fake Out
Overheat
Close Combat
Naive Nature with 252/6/252 in Att/SpAtt/Speed was great.
In ORAS it was the first competitive pokemon I breed.
Zakana I rather choose Flare blitz than overheat
Gen 4
Blaziken: who are you
Infernape: I'm you but better
Gen 5
Infernape: who are you
Blaziken: I'm you but better
Then in next gen blaziken got mega but still even after 4 gens later infernape didn't got any buff. It didn't even get belly drum even though it's an ape. Gamefreak sure does hate infernape or maybe they hate whole gen 4 starters
I've seen Grass Knot so many times at this point that I need a "How good was Grass Knot ACTUALLY" video.
I knew Gen 4 infernape was tremendous, but OH MY GOD THAT IS A TREMENDOUS MOVEPOOL
The Gen 4 starters need Megas.
Along with some others badly.
Fans: Gen 2 and 4 starers need mega...
GF: "Y E E T"
The Gen 6 starters need them the most though! Except Greninja,he already got a form.
Mega evolutions should cease to exist
@@urhsusnikvrecic1478 GF was like: yeah but there's lot of pokemon who needs to get boosted like salamence and metagross...
@@verximama828 actually the Gentoo ones do the only good one in competitive is the water type starter one the other ones suck especially the grass one
I like it:
we weren't sick of its typing yet; is literally named goku; good move pool; lots of utility. got my approval.
( It's one of my 2 go to Sinnoh Choices )
Is the other Empoleon? :3
That’s yet another Pokémon on this show that has fallen off the map, not because it’s bad or anything, but because of stupidly insane Power Creep.
OU is Goddamned mess in Gen 7.
IMO OU is practically Uber 1 and the tiers lower are their tiers below it, there's so many Pokemon with 95+ average stats, that you could just make an SS tier now after S (OU), hehe.
My boi Infernape! I hope one day it can get that mega that it deserves so much to see it shine once again!
I hope he gets a mega evolution too one day cause he's my favorite starter and pokemon cause I just love everything about him and he is a beast! 🔥🙌🏼
While Infernape was a victim of power creep, it can still do its job decently. I use it with Flare Blitz, Close Combat, U-turn and a coverage move alongside
Choice scarf, and it is ok.
When I was a kid, I gave it a KingRock in my 1st Pokemon Pearl playthrough.
Speeking of KingRock: How good was Regirock ACTUALLY? No one can stop the Rock!
@Ice Stop trying to stop the rock.
Before speed boost: infernape is the best fire/fighting starter, blowing the doors off of emboar and outclassing blaziken
When blaziken got speed boost and mega: now blaziken greatly outclasses infernape, is not only the best fire fighting starter but is the best starter period.
@Zack Grey Protean makes it to similar too Greninja. But Adaptability or Technician would be amazing.
For me with Blaziken, that's way too overkill.
@@jjc4924 ?
Sean. I meant it's way O.P.
Infernape can still mop the floor with the speedy chicken. Game Freak really want people to love that fugly bird, don't they ?
Now I want an Infernape. Image how much it'll get mixed up if and when it gets a Mega?!? I'm excited.
Oh yeah! My favorite Pokémon is getting looked at today! Thank you, FSG!
Infernape was my favorite pokemon and I leveled him up before my other pokemon
That's amazing!
Since Empoloen and Torterra have terrible speed, Infernape can use close combat to wreck Empoloen and Fire Blast to wreck Torterra despite both of them having a type advantage on Infernape, but focus sash is the only way to save their ass.
Unless, of course, you run fake out, which renders Focus Sash null and void
@@AkariHiZoru I dont think empoleon and torterra get fake out
@@kabirdang1346 fake out for infernape
*laughs in aqua jet*
Infernape is still one of my favorite Gen 4 Pokemon, I just think it's pretty badass and actually good (not as good nowadays but still it can't really be called bad).
Aaron Hernandez Better than Emboar by miles and Non-Speed Boost Blaziken
Why does everyone forget about me?
Cause ya suck
@@Teamo_505 shut up
@@Teamo_505 it was in pu in gen7 when other evolved ones where untiered. Shut up
@@Teamo_505 It was PU in Gen 7, so your comment has no meaning here
Don't worry monferno, you're still awesome
So basically, Infernape's metagame prowess was reflective of its anime prowess; in Gen IV, it was the star Pokémon in the anime, picking up wins left and right under Ash's ownership, with the pinnacle being beating half of Paul's team in the League, but come Gen V, it was cast aside into the shadows never to be seen again
I use an Infernape in competitive Black & White OU as a lead in a balanced Spikes team and its amazing!
Iron Fist Infernape is in my opinion one of the best Quiver Dance Volcarona COUNTERS (Not checks) in the game! It has a lot of potential! Give it a try. Thanks for the great video, Infernape is one of my favorite pokemon so it's great to hear that Infernape was, just like you said "Pretty good" (:
I tried it in a tournament and it was one of the most deadweight Pokémon I’ve ever seen. It literally just didn’t do anything against half the teams i faced, and the other half made it so infernape could never get onto the field safely making me play 5 Pokémon against 6
Ah the days of MixApe, where has the time gone...
I'm biased because it was my first starter but Infernape is one of my favourites for sure. Which is why it hurt and still hurts to see it being neglected and then left behind entirely. And calling the Sinnoh remakes "faithful" was just an excuse to give the Sinnoh starters nothing new. Wasn't it GF?
Sinnoh remakes were made by another company, but I agree that Sinnoh starters were criminally neglected, and being fire monkey my favorite pokemon I'm very angry, specially when compared with Blaziken
I like it more than blaziken
Noticed how it didn’t sink to RU, but still found, (the same roles because they’re that effective), over and over again in UU 🔥
(Currently hyping over the fact my all time favorite finally got an episode. #WorthTheWait)
I actually used Piplup for my first playthrough of Platinum. Infernape was the last one I picked, iirc.
I honestly think that Infernape will soar to the top again with a new mega evolution (unless they REALLY botch it like with Sceptile)
Pretty good timing as my Monferno, named Chimpow, just evolved into Infernape the other day in Pokemon Platinum. Easily my favorite Starter Pokemon and my favorite of Ash's Fire Types.
@Golin punch I think I swapped Mach Punch for Close Combat just cause higher power, but looking back, I probably should have kept Mach Punch (priority) or taught it Brick Break. I did end up transferring my Platinum team over to Black 2. So now I can teach it Brick Break or have it relearn Mach Punch through Heart Scale.
Wonder how the AuraGuadrian is gonna respond to this...?
1 who? 2 why?
@@chriskasmarski5709 1:He's a funny TH-camr who makes Pokemon videos
2: His favorite mon is Infernape
cdk sword same
@Zack Grey It's basically an Ash-Gren wanabe, and I like it
@Zack Grey I mean... you said op and you delivered
Infernape my first and favotite pokemon of all of time
My favorite moves for infernape are:
Flare blitz
Close Combat
Earthquake
Thunder punch
This makes me reminisce on how nasty Infernape was as a lead in gen 4! With a focus sash on he could not only 1v1 other focus sash users but also set up rocks and hit both sides with overheat and close combat! Absolutely beast
0:54 Infernape: What did it do? Did it do things?? Lets find out!
Would it be possible to include draft league formats in videos, at least for the most recent gen (7)? I feel like it could be nice especially with some of the "weaker" pokemon to showcase ways they can still be good, rather than just relegating them to PU or whatever in some cases
good idea
I know garchomp was banned due to his overpowered stats and moveset. But why were Latias and Salamence banned?
Overpowered stats and moveset.
Latias has Soul Dew
They did, but latias was OP anyways
I loved using it with Shadow Claw. Very helpful against Psychic types and had a good critical hit chance. Later on I taught mine Acrobatics which gains more damage without a held item.
I honestly hope in the future for Competitive Infernape, it at least makes its way back up in OU! While UU isn't that bad I wouldn't consider it too good either! Maybe with a Mega it can combine the effects of most items it has into it's stats and who knows maybe toss Infernape a couple of bones! If I were to choose any pokemon of any tier to use, it'd be Infernape, I would like to find some kind of use for it!
Just how GOOD was MURKROW and HONCHKROW ACTUALLY? It’ll be cool if they got it, so I hope you vote for them likewise!
Infernape was nice and all, but I really wish he didn’t feel so mandatory in the Sinnoh games due to the total lack of other Fire types. The Piplup and Turtwig lines are both in my top five favorite starters ever based on design and unique typing but it feels so hard to use either of them compared to easy mode Chimchar.
If you played Platinum there are more fire types available
How GOOD was Ho-oh ACTUALLY!? Also, Mega Infernape for Gen8 anyone!?
I won’t say it got a mega, cause it didn’t
This comment did not age well
Can confirm I have chosen the fire monkey as my starter first time around for D/P. Once platinum came out and we had a better selection of fire types, I went with Torterra.
In gen 4 :
Infernape- I am you but better
Blaziken- ...
Post gen 4:
Blaziken : u were saying???
Infernape : ...
Before the video even starts, as a veteran of 4th gen competitive, this thing was a monster. Mix Ape had no true counters. Its versatility with move pool made it impossible to switch into safely if they predict well. Close combat OHKOs blissey, flamethrower handles skarm, grass knot for swampert, thunder punch for gyara and starmie, HP ice handles dragons. This thing was a serious pain to deal with on par with Lando T of today.
O10FTW but starmie was faster and OHKOs it right? That’s the one thing confusing to me.
@@danielsmith5032 yes but it doesn't want to switch in on a thunder punch
@Clint Yeastwood about a close as you can come. The thing is that mixape has the potential to deal big damage to anything switching in with good prediction.
You missed out Jamie Boyt winning the liverpool regional with infernape in 2016
Now I'm really curious about Hariyama, what with it being on the team that beat the one Infernape was on during Sinnoh VGC.
Infernape's movepool was so good, it better support moves (Fake Out, Stealth Rock, Taunt, Helping hand) and even a RECOVERY MOVE (Slack off) that many defensive Pokemon wish they had.
Your first starter will always be your first starter. Goddamn, the Gen 4 remakes can’t come soon enough.
I would love to see a video about how good items were. How did leftovers or choice scarf or life orb change the metagame? How good were they actually?