Somehow I imagine someone passing by as you’re running around with the flag and going “well that’s as sure a sign as any” before turning around from whatever they were on their way to and going home.
As a black woman and I was born in 1985 so thank you for bringing to light how long this tragedy has lasted and she got no justice. I had a strong suspicion that he did kill her and what sold me is when he wrote a book about how he would have done it if he did it.
@@MilitantOregano Not at all The copyrights, of [If] I DID IT , belong to Judith Reagan & Fred Goldman According to the civil litigation, which can't be a criminal charge Or overrule a superior court decision . The interview challenged Judith Reagan"s theory of domestic violence, that was stricken from the record Petrocelli" s exhausting, repeated questioning of everything that didn't matter ! Mentioning a hypothetical theory only needs to be repeated to anyone that can't understand the definition. No knife , no bloody clothing no eyewitness no timeline !
It's crazy the incident on New year's day in 1989 I was born just 8 days after that incident when Nicole claimed he was trying to killed her and to think 5 years later in 1994 she was brutally murdered by him. Shows the system failed her.
Yes he wrote that book, but let's also not forget the evidence... The bloody glove at his property... His blood at the crime scene... Everyone's blood in his bronco... The cut on his finger and his blood in that exact spot in the glove... Should I go on?
I know everyone likes to focus on the insanity that was the trial, but this part of the story is always so forgotten. Nicole lived terrified for years of this man and she got no justice for what happened to her. She never got to see her children grow up and never broke free from this man's abuse which is a true tragedy in all of this. The fact he murdered her when their children were sleeping upstairs is so understated, truly evil. And poor Ron as well, treated as a footnote in his own murder. All he did was to do a favor for a friend and ended up getting murdered for it. Thank you for bringing attention to this part of the story which most people sadly glosses over
In the paper, it was reported that there were 62 police reports of abuse by his wife before he murdered her. It’s insane that police negligence ruined what should’ve been an easy conviction and life prison sentence.
Please understand, OJ bay have been affected due to soo many concussions from extremeky tough hits to his head...that is all that I wanna say!!! Please, please understand that OJ definitely wasn't a dirty animal ...it hurts me to read so many people putting out Lies bout the Juice....by the way, please call OJ the Juice ....He was an amazing Guy...ps, dont believe the Lies.😊
This guy’s narcissism is through the roof.. I remember being in middle school when his trial started and having a school survey on whether he’d be found guilty or not guilty.. I was the only black kid who voted guilty and was called a “sellout” for selecting guilty.
You are far from a sellout. You are one of society's protectors. After people saw all these dudes who end people's lives, criminals thought they could get away with what they did to George Floyd, Cherica Adams, and Megan Thee Stallion. When all those people who committed those crimes are released, the public will not be safe.
@@MrJuvefrankGeorge Floyd is decorated criminal. You need to stop looking at people as a whole race and judge the individuals character or lack thereof.
I went to an all white(I'm white, too) Catholic school for middle school. The girls said guilty and the boys said not guilty. Can you guess one o the reasons I'm not Catholic anymore?
@@heathercontois4501 That many White males in a school said things like that? That's all right. If you write things on TH-cam that are difficult to believe, I can just put you on mute. Every day for the rest of your life, your mythical communications are blocked from my account. Think of it as a learning experience.
I'm a woman and in my high-school we did a vote of whether women should be drafted if there ever is another draft. I'm the only girl who said yes and all the other girls were mad at me.
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I was a young adult working my first job when the trial occurred. The day the verdict was read we gathered around a tv. When they said not guilty every white person‘s face was stricken, the Black people in my office were cheering clapping jumping around. This is more about our judicial system than OJ. I think they felt that they have been denied justice for so long, that any black man getting off, was something to celebrate. It was very disturbing. I’ll never forget it.
Yeah, he became a figurehead for POC who were being unfairly incarcerated. Instead of concern for the truth and justice, it became about race. Here was a dark skinned man who fought the system and won, his guilt was irrelevant to so many.
@@akirababe1570 I mean, 'Black man on trial for murder of white women' without it all ending in the death penalty was a novelty at the time. And let's not pretend police didn't have a history of scapegoating black men for crimes involving white women. Add that to his previously clean image (which probably means there wasn't reporting on his violence), a cop known to be racist (right after Rodney King), and the evidence being tampered with? I kinda get why there was a knee-jerk 'oh, they arrested him because he was the easiest suspect, and they needed to cover their asses after letting the press destroy all the evidence' from the general public. Not saying it was right, just that I understand the logic.
It shouldn't be up to the victim whether or not to arrest a perpetrator of domestic violence. If there is sufficient evidence of an attack, arrest should be automatic.
I believe it depends on the state but where I live, if a person commits a violent crime, the state prosecutes them not the victim. I think that's what makes a big difference. If the court case is state v. Abuser or victim v. Abuser. The victim doesn't have to do anything at all, but it helps if they give a statement for evidence. If it's on camera or has witnesses then the state won't need the victim to provide any evidence at all.
@@GoldenMermaid A victim has to testify to physical abuse. It isn't the hearsay of anyone that is involved with an argument That would be perjury with a violation of rights in any American state
My ex abused me and the cops showed up for one of the incidents. I was still very much in the thick of the relationship so I said I didn't want to press charges and they flat out told me "cool. you don't get to make that choice, the DA does." I live in California but I think every state should have laws like that. Thank God they pressed charges 😅
@KevinShaughnessy-lf3vs the victim doesn't need to testify if there's enough physical evidence to determine that abuse happened. My ex was charged based on injuries to me vs. him. The police know what defensive injuries look like and can typically determine who was the aggressor by what the injuries look like. For instance, I had red marks around my neck/a bite on my finger and he had scratches on his chest/neck. The police could already tell that his injuries were consistent with me defending myself. A vast majority of DV survivors don't want to testify against their abuser because of safety or because they are so deep in the relationship.
@@KevinShaughnessy-lf3vs you don't know what you're talking about. He was arrested in 1989 for abusing nicole so bad that she had to be hospitalized. Keep parroting the wrong information, you're digging a hole you can't get out of.
And the fact that the industry let her be terrorized, abused, and eventually murdered all before painting her as the cheating villain. Not only did it allow this to happen to her but this negligence stole her children's mother and that is a debt that can never be paid.
But they were more of LA celebrities not super into the Hollywood movie circles…my older sister was her age and knew her, they had friends in common. It was known what she was dealing with regarding OJ, different times back then. It was considered taboo to get involved in someone’s marriage
@@JoeRogansForehead And you're completely missing that the OP knows that and was appreciating Dustyn's joke in which he called him Ornamental Jim Smithsonian. ... explaining the joke makes it so much funnier....
The red flags weren't missed, they were ignored because he was talented, famous, and rich. Respect The Dead did a 2 episode deep dive on him, the murders, the trial, and the aftermath. Nicole reached out to people. She had evidence, she took photos, she documented injuries, and at least once she told people that OJ was going to kill her. He systematically dismantled her support systems, isolated her, wrecked her self-esteem, and when he was finally sure that he was going to lose control of her, he murdered her.
The fact that she went to a bar with him just days before he murdered her -- even though they were already separated -- speaks to the level of fear she had towards him, his level of aggression, and just how bad the stalking was. I think she felt that going somewhere with him would at least just temporarily get him to stop, not just for the sake of her but especially her children.
@@DustinPoynterVideosnot only did she willingly go to out with him, she also hit him up for money, she had actually written him a letter after the divorce wanting to reconcile and that was actually mentioned at the trial and you can look it up and read the letter online, And, for somebody supposedly so scared, she chose to move away only just a mile away when she had the means to move me much farther away How scared could you be really when you do all of this?
@@naithngr81-jh2bb Nicole didnt deserve to be killed. That being said she seems to have been "WELL KNOWN"and a hot commodity in NFL Police Politicians and general dirt bag circles for "UNKNOWN REASONS" . The fact that OJ is not either Spiderman Bat man or an Orangutan rules him out completely to me considering the high level of slaughtering done within a 5 minute time frame ! Furman and LAPD didn't know it was OJ but they doctored the scene to ensure all fingers point to him ! Also Nicole and Rons friends were also from the restaurant were also slaughtered shortly after them. Which says to me LAPD covered up probably the biggest scandal in history that they were a part of for years !
@@DustinPoynterVideos There was huge pressure on her to reconcile with him bc her dad was working for OJ. Her family wouldnt let her leave him (due to the perks) and she did not disclose the severity of the abuse😞
Not true. People believed her . She wasn't going to mess with her child support and alimony by putting him in jail for past domestic violence. Nicole divorced that coked out animal.
I took a forensics crime class, basically how people investigate murders and all, and this case was used as an example of what not to do. The short of it was that too many reporters were let on the property and the cops weren’t taking it as seriously as needed. For those crimes, nothing can be touched or moved before pictures are taken of evidence. But all the reporters and cops were wandering around, smearing the blood and their hands and fingerprints everywhere. It was just enough to fuck up all the physical evidence from the scene that it was impossible to tell OJ’s prints and dna from everyone else’s. That’s called tampering with a crime scene kids
Plus a cop pled the 5th on the witness stand about whether he planted evidence in the case. At that point, a jury simply has to acquit. (And yes, he did it.)
I've watched a lot of crime docs lately on cases from the 70s, 80s and 90s and I'm floored at how regular of an occurrence it was to botch crime scene evidence like this. Just a ton of corruption and incompetence coming outta this era.
@@DustinPoynterVideos The years after the OJ trial also saw a lot more exposure of just how pervasively the LAPD planted evidence. (Something the targeted communities were well aware of, already.) It’s tragic for the families, the straw to break the camel’s back against the abusive practices and total lack of public trust was the acquittal of an obviously guilty murderer. But the fact is, OJ couldn’t have gotten away with murder without all that generous help from the LAPD.
A lot of those "what not to do" are rules now BECAUSE of that case. It really reshaped how crime scenes are managed and how evidence is preserved. Some of those rules were already in place and were just ignored, but many were added or made MUCH stricter after this one.
I wonder if my class had the same textbook because this case was one of two that were used as examples of botched investigations. The one detail I remember was that they put a blanket or sheet over the bodies to hide them from the paparazzi that was from somewhere on the property, not a sterile sheet, so there was almost guaranteed evidence contamination.
i was twelve years old when that verdict came in. they showed it live on all the TVs at my junior high school. that was the first time in my life i discovered that guilty people could get away with murder. it had never occurred to me until that day.
And above we see commenters being mean without provocation. Perhaps they are fighting for territory. Perhaps they are taking their anger out on a lone commenter without risk of reprimand. We may never know... but there is hope.
One really wild thing about the case is how it reshaped crime scene investigations and evidence handling. A HUGE amount of the defense was just poking holes in chain of custody, saying "well, how do you KNOW that blood wasn't smeared in the car by your tech who was in the house?" A lot of the very strict guidelines CSIs and forensic techs abide by now came about as a result of that case. People can't move from one crime scene to another (e.g., from the house to the vehicle) without stripping off all their protective gear and putting on a new set. Chain of custody is much more strictly tracked. If it happened today, the investigators would've had much more rigid procedures to prevent compromising evidence or contaminating a crime scene, and the defense would've had a MUCH steeper uphill climb to defend him.
Huh, I didn't know that part! So it's kinda like the titanic of forensics. (All the safety drills/procedures for ships are because of that sinking, the titanic literally didn't have enough life boats for everyone on board)
Tell the whole truth, not only was there violation of chain of custody but also the so called blood evidence amounted to specks and contained preservative and the lead detective pleaded the fifth for planting evidence.
It's not all that shocking. Unfortunately that's generally what it takes to make much needed adjustments happen. Just like the other person comment about the Titanic it often takes an obvious failure to make progress in many aspects. It's not like those changes appeared out of nowhere they had been proposed before like with many other noted tragedies but were ignored. Sadly this well not be the final example of humanities brutal learning curve. As its been repeated many times since and is must likely ongoing even now with our current climate situation. Maybe the next dominant species will be capable of learning from its mistakes before its too late.
How would a tech changing protective gear from one scene to another make OJ harder to defend? And what is the chain of custody (and what about it changed)? I have no knowledge about the inner workings of legal systems, so I'm genuinely curious.
@@juliastrawn2113 It doesn't make him harder to defend -- it makes him harder to prosecute. For example, if the prosecution says "This smear of Nicole's blood in O.J.'s car places him at the scene," the defense replies, "How can you be sure one of your techs didn't PUT that blood there after getting it on their clothes at the house, then searching the car?" Chain of custody refers to who had possession of a piece of evidence between its collection (when it was picked up at the scene) and when it's presented in court. Evidence will often be transported, change hands, etc., and it is STRICTLY logged who took possession, when, etc. If there is a break in this chain -- e.g., a period where the item's whereabouts and custodian can't be verified -- then it's possible for the defense to say "You can't be sure this isn't the exact item that was at the scene." Any forensic testing performed after the break in chain of custody won't be admissible in court, and the evidence itself won't be admissible. Prior to the O.J. case, investigators weren't as careful about cross contamination (e.g., they didn't have techs remove their protective gear after being on one scene and then putting on all new gear at the next scene, preventing transfer of blood, etc). They also weren't quite as careful about chain of custody. Hope that helps!
OJ Simpson was the first choice to play the terminator. But the directors thought the idea of OJ as a violent killer was totally unbelievable and so they cast Arnold.
The irony it’s so terribly sad it’s almost funny. But an innocent woman and man died for that irony. It’s just a tragedy. OJ Simpson walked away with murder and with thousands of fans still in love with him 😟
@Bigchet1223 That's gross and wrong of them. Better to speak truth than promoting a lie. This keeps getting done again and again with criminals who have the right skin color. George Floyd was no martyr, but they won't admit it.
@@bennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn- When she’s saying he’ll beat the 💩 out of her and he’s making it through different doors to where she is, it’s terrifying. When he starts hitting her, it’s horrific.
@@toritori5835 then I must've not heard that call... I was thinking about the one where she says "he's back, can you please send someone".. in that call she sounds more annoyed than anything else
@@bennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnit's the same one that you're thinking where she said he's back and the dispatcher says stay on the line with me and she says I don't want to cuz he's going to beat the s*** out of me
Untreated mental health is so dangerous. My mom is a narcissist and she now has psychosis. I'm disabled and she came up with this delusion that I made up my disabilities to be lazy and take advantage of her, even though she's never actually done anything to help me or made me feel like I can depend on her or trust her. My mom also refused to have my ADHD treated when I was a child and I wasn't diagnosed with Autism until I was 19. Now I suffer from several mental disorders, including OCD, mild hoarding disorder, alienation, paranoia, and hallucinations. Based on the mental evaluation I took when I was 19, I was on my way to developing Schizophrenia. It does run in my family but it's rare in my family. With me, my untreated mental health lead to self destruction because my mother was abusive. But clearly because of my mother's untreated mental health and OJ's untreated mental health, it lead to them hurting others. Oh, and the state of your mental health is never an excuse to hurt others. I often say my sin is Wrath because Wrath used to be something I struggled with but I gained control over it on my own. While mental health conditions can cause one to not know the difference between right and wrong, it doesn't mean we can't learn. There are too many resources now that are easily available to prevent insanity from causing crime. It's people like OJ and my mom who refuse to accept help that end up harming others and they should be held responsible for their crime and for refusing the help to prevent it.
100% mental health is an explanation, not an excuse. It's one of the hardest battles I have had to fight, but at the end of the day: only you can help yourself when your own mind is the enemy. It's not easy at all, and it can be a long gruelling road, but it CAN absolutely be overcome. When I first experienced symptoms of anxiety and depression, I remember thinking to myself "is this how I'm going to feel for the rest of my life now?" Having overcome that - multiple times now - when I do feel those symptoms come back, I hold fast to the knowledge that I can get better again, feel happy again, as my light in the darkness.
@@WingedAsarath The second that my depression or anxiety comes back, I harass my doctor until he increases my medication, and I feel better. I hate feeling either.
I hope you understand how proud you should be of taking care of yourself! That shit is HARD. Mental health problems are rarely one's fault but are always one's responsibility.
I was late diagnosed in my mid 30s. Wish I was diagnosed at 19. My dad is definitely a narcissist. Never apologized, always blames others for his mistakes, and was sometimes violent when I was young. He’s also now misogynist despite having a wife and 3 daughters. Arguing with him is like arguing with a screaming 4 year old except he’s an adult man and can be scary. Sometimes, you need to distance from family. Some people don’t understand that. All of his side of the family sided with him against me when I brought up his narcissism. I realized they don’t care. I now concentrate on friends who do care.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. My dad didn’t believe I was suffering from panic/anxiety disorder and depression. My family didn’t have a lot of money and in general just didn’t believe in medication even though I was 17 and had a history of head injuries along with panic attacks plus suicidal ideation. I never got medicated until I was hospitalized in my late twenties. When mental health goes ignored or is stigmatized you end up with shattered people and unfortunate stories like yours. I self-medicated with illegal drugs and other harmful acts. I hope you succeed in spite of everything. Please take care. 🌸✌️
Well done, Dustin! You examined an ugly subject with dignity, grace and the appropriate touch of humour while maintaining respect for Nicole and Ron. Thank you
Thank you Dustin, everything that you are saying is 100% true! I hope that you continue taking about all you say! I Love your message. OJ should not drive the blame for everything bad you were accused of! Don't blame OJ at all.
Wow, I think you need glasses. I mean, Id say youre trolling, but since all you did was burn yourself hard I dont think youre trolling. URN. You know, a place for cremated ashes?
I think the financial control is also a large factor of why Nicole stayed. Nicole was a teenager when she met OJ, and within weeks her demanded that she leave the apartment she was sharing with a friend to move into an apartment he paid for. She never got to be independent and come into herself as an adult. It's part of what makes her death so tragic, too. Right when Nicole was finally breaking away from Simpson, he took her life.
Yes! And her father was also indebted to him for finding him a role at hertz, and he supported her parents more generally. Dominick dunne made a famous observation (believe it was him) that all the simpson daughters, tho grown up middle class, had boob jobs but no college degree. Nicole was obvs intelligent but she never got to go where she belonged in life by getting involved with this man at a young age.... Her family did report that Nicole had made comments about physical arguments, being thrown v a dresser etc, and they knew he was handsy, at the least....
My sister worked at the Brain Trauma Foundation after undergrad. Her job was to assess high school and college football players in the New York area after they sustained head injuries, and the pressure they received to get back on the field despite being actively concussed was insane. The entire sport is broken.
Here's the problem- I contacted the director of the TBI center in Boston to see if I could be studied... "I'm sorry- we're only interested in studying MALES who are/were athletes/military"... The exceptionally BRUTAL reality: They care more about the potential predators, than those who have experienced many concussions from accidents and recurring abuse. It's a pretty sick system.
Yup, American football is f’ed up. It has caused so many murders and suicides. Beyond unfortunate, there is tons of money in football they can invest in some advancements in safety gear. Absolutely unacceptable. CTE is no joke, head trauma (especially repeated) is no joke.
No that was the sex tape. I don’t think Robert Kardashian would have let his daughters be like this. Especially not allow that video to be released. In fact, being a well known attorney, he probably would have done everything to stop it. That was all Kris’ doing.
@@MayorDeezy Really? Didn’t know that!🙄*thinly veiled sarcasm* Robert Kardashian was one of his attorneys. But the reason we are inundated with Kardashians/Jenners is because of that damn sex tape. And Kris making sure it got released for the world to see. (I know we all should all want the best for our kids, but what kind of parent does that?) That is what started their so called dynasty. That had nothing to do with that very well respected attorney or that trial. No one knew who Kim and the rest of them were during that trial. And Robert was dead before everything happened. She made that tape the year before he passed. Notice they waited 4 years before they released. Probably cause he wasn’t gonna be down for the bullshit. I said what I said. Don’t correct me again.
@@MayorDeezyhe was one of the least publicized attorneys from that trail. The judge and district attorneys got more attention from it. Cochran and Shaprio got the attention for the defense. It was more a case of people remembering after the fact than that being a driving force to it.
@@marcning918 It was still one of the most publicized trials of all time. Even if he barely had the spotlight on him that's still millions of Americans that knew his name after that. If anything it just opened doors to opportunities
Thank you for demonstrating how a person can PRETEND his own gloves don't fit. That part of the trial was so frustrating because so many people believed those couldn't be his gloves.
Also, I’ve heard most of his attorneys speak and one of them said he was worried about the glove fitting so the attorney suggested he stop taking his arthritis meds. If you know what that does, it makes your joints swell. So a glove that would normally fit won’t. 🤷🏻♀️
The thing about the "teerible childhood leads to murder" assumptionis that throughout history, MOST people suffered trauma as children. Slavery, war, famine, poverty, sexual and physical abuse--everybody took a trip on the Crazy Making Train. And yes, this did lead to a higher number of violent and disturbed people than you would find in peaceful and prospeerous societies and we should definitely think of that, but they were never more than say, 20% of the population. The other 80% managed to grow up with some semblance of deceny. OJ was violent because he wanted to be.
My late husband had met OJ & his entourage (he ALWAYS had one) several times over the years. He said OJ NEVER did his own fighting in the hood. His closest hanger on always protected him. Hubs was always convinced OJ didn't do his own murders, the good buddy did it for him.
I think it was a perfect storm of childhood trauma, repeated head injuries, and narcissism that made OJ a killer. It's a combination of nature, nurture, and free choice.
One more thing though… as a 7 year survivor of domestic violence, NO ONE gives a shit about it still… so I get that you say people care about it… they really don’t.
She was "so scared" yet she with him after the divorce, she also got him up for money after the divorce, actually wrote a letter to him after the divorce wanting to reconcile (yrs, that was at the trial too, and nobody talks about it) and also Nicole had only moved away one mile when she had the means to move quite farther away. Doesn't look like she was really so "scared" of OJ like mainstream "OJ did it" media narrative
@@KevinS702they had a Roxie terrible relationship but she is dead and brutally murdered. So it was not deserved. He could have just moved far away or never speak to her again or better yet seek therapy and medical care but no. He had too much of an ego to do anything decent and the people around him noticed how ill he was and did nothing about it
The amount of names you came up with for him is sending me. For real, though, thank you so much for this. It's a fantastic overview of such a horrific event and terrible person.
What I find is… there are always red flags with these people. I think it’s important for us to learn from these demons and stay away when we see *any* of these traits in people we come across in life.
We should teach it in school, but that won't happen, because then people would wise up to parents, administrators, police, the state, religion, and so on
@@CMStrawbridge the second-best option is to teach it through fiction: show those signs as bad, instead of romanticizing them for teens and young adults. Still gonna ruffle a few feathers, but the more it gets encoded as "absolute bastard backstabber" tropes, the more people will realize this is what the real monsters are.
“What did you do that made him so mad?” I stood there with a chipped tooth and a black eye and had to defend myself. This was normal for an abused woman in the 1970s. I’m so lucky I got out alive. And I’m so grateful that my generation went on to change laws. Before that, women really didn’t have the right to be safe. My heart breaks for for the victims.
I have ADHD it's very hard for me to watch a video in full but you are so easy to listen to and hilarious that I really enjoyed this video and all your videos keep them coming
I have ADHD too, so I get it LOL. You have no idea how many side quests I went on while making this video. Thank you so much for saying that though, that is awesome!! I've got another one dropping this weekend!
I just looked that up and what the fuck??? Tyson admitted to raping women and people in the subreddit under the post were just talking about his fights
@@undeadsweetheart7508 Robin Givens. He beat the hell out of her all the time. Barbara Walters did a special interviewing them, and like she always does, she intentionally poked the bear to get explosive reactions. She brought up his abuse, which terrified Robin. Mike said he was going to get help for his temper. After the interview, he accused Robin of setting him up (she had told Barbara what would happen if she brought it up so told her not to talk about the abuse). He beat Robin so bad, she was in the hospital. Years later, he says he was the one traumatized by that relationship. He's a piece of sh-t.
You’re *killing me* with all the different names you have for him 😂 In all seriousness, yeah, I can’t believe most people ignored most of his played off killing jokes. I grew up calling him Orange Juice Simpson.
@@jenniferharrington917 As soon as Hertz Rent a Car learned the old goat slit his ex-wife's throat, they cancelled his contract on the spot. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that at least one restaurant manager went up to him, and said, "I'm sorry; we don't serve O.J. here."
My cousin was a police officer with the Los Angeles Police Department prior to her murder, & told me that they were called to their house several times for domestic abuse done by O.J. He was convinced that O.J. was guilty of her murder.
Domestic dispute doesn't mean murder a few years after a divorce when. Oj had already been in a new relationship, and it was Nicole who had written OJ a letter (look it up, it was at the trial) wanting to get back together. And domestic violence from a few years before doesn't give you the idea to not only murder someone, but give them a Colombian necktie the same way that just happened to also be done to Ron's boss.
I’d never considered CTE as a contributing factor, but it makes a lot of sense actually. It’s highly suspected that CTE was a huge contributing factor to why Chris Benoit did what he did on top of the other examples mentioned in the video. Head trauma is no joke man, it can turn a normal person into a monster under the wrong circumstances.
@@souxcasa cte doesn't make someone a comic book superpowered being. If you had cte that's not going to negate the fact that you are in your late forties with chronic arthritis. It's not going to give you powers to take on Ron goldman by yourself without a scratch. Then not only kill but also mutilate their bodies the same way as was done to Ron's boss. And cte is not going to make you super smart and fast to hide the knife and bloody clothes so well that none of its been found in thirty years now, and then male you so fast you can get to Los Angeles international airport in a timespan of twenty minutes.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb what does being comic super powered have to do with anything? He's a grown man who's an athlete, most men could kill most women with their bare hands he wouldn't need anything extra. If he had a propensity toward violence and then brain damage took away his capacity for impulse control of course he's more likely to kill someone
I started following your channel for your Red Flag / Green Flag shorts, but I LOVE the new longer format you've been adding in. I know these have to be difficult to do; thank you so much for your thoughtful, kind videos. ❤️
Thank you so much! Longer videos on TH-cam will be my main thing going forward so that's really nice to hear. It was indeed difficult (70+ hours went into this one video) but it's very much worth it and I feel like this was an important subject to talk about.
This was soooo good. I think its important to look at the why, if we make demons out of people its easy to dismiss the behaviour. When we try to understand the why we can try and learn from it and stop it from happening again.
My hubs had 2 major TBIs years ago. When you said arguing with himself, i cracked a smile because I've seen that first hand. It can get really scary. Thankfully, he's on medication now.
Dustin, as a DV survivor I sincerely want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating a platform speaking out against domestic violence IN A MAN’S VOICE. DV survivors have long been advocating for their own and their sister’s right to live safe and in peace. I feel strongly, however, that having REAL MEN stand up and call out abusive males that the world will happily just push the potentially lethal effects of domestic violence into the shadows. I have SO much respect for what you do here!💜💜💜💜
I just found your channel this morning and I love it. You did a great job on this video. It was very well researched and you kept exactly the right tone with a little light humor (making fun of OJ) while showing empathy and compassion toward the victims. It was interesting to see how OJ's background influenced what he became and it was so sad to see how hard Nicole tried to save herself from abuse and still ended up tragically losing her life.
It's really unfortunate that Simpson's family didn't allow an autopsy after his death so they could confirm if he indeed had a CTE. I think that would have made his legacy not be so dark, kinda like with Aaron Hernandez. Of course there isn't an excuse for murder but CTE explains a lot. Simpson having a CTE explains why his first wife had such a difference experience than Nicole. Having one wife say he never touched me(whether that's true or not) and the other one is terrified due to the abuse is typically not a normal occurrence.
Yes please, CTE isn't an excuse for OJ. He clearly had a history of being violent and believing he was somehow within his rights to use violence to get what he wanted. The CTE exacerbated it all, but it didn't transform his personality. I'm sure there are cases where the level of TBIs makes a person's perception of reality deteriorate to where otherwise peaceful individuals feel the need to hurt those closest to them, but OJ wasn't one of them. And I will fight anyone on that, I got my Master's in Clinical Psychology last year. I *toiled* for the ability to fight you on this, even.
My abusive psycho ex idolizes and adores oj. He always "jokingly" said he'd do to me what oj did if I ever tried to leave. But "it was a joke." I had to make a very thought out, and it just took a lot of planning and everything in order to leave. I was always so scared he'd find out. Just thinking about it brings up a lot of stuff for me. My heart starts racing and ya. Anyways, sorry. Late at night after he passed out. And he knew he was afraid I'd leave. He'd sleep with his body locked to mine. When he started doing that it made it harder. But I was able to take my son and we ran away. We were homeless and couch surfing for over a year. I let my id's expire, my tags, I wouldn't stay anywhere too long. At 1 point, I even went back to my disowned abusive drug addict mom's house when he almost found us. Motels, hotels, in areas I knew he wouldn't think of. Anyways Long after I left, during coco He started seeing some woman(she did and said some evil stuff.) But anyways, he forced her to turn into me. I used to make videos talking about it. But when they came after my son, I privated them. My son was and is still upset with me that I did. But he was and is a kid. And ya. There's a lot about my ex that's just ya. And it's scary how spot on alot of that is. But no, he wasn't a football player or had head damage. Or ya.
I disagree that later events (daughter drowning, wife divorcing him due to affair) had anything to do with it. Those foundations (jealousy, control) were much earlier in the game, and expressed by his gang participation - particularly the part where a weekend was not a weekend unless he beat up some other dude (who supposedly deserved it, but doubtful that was the case). Probably the fraternal abandonment/anger played into forming his anger issues, but not the later 'abandonment', that was him reacting in a way that way already patterned into his behaviour model. Yes, it was likely he had the brain injury from his football career, I think that is a given, and just exasperated what was in the foundation already. I happened to notice that fleeting glance of Nicole's at the party/nightclub, where he (jokingly) took her drink and said he would be drinking it. She had the look of dread, like he was going to be impossible or a monster that night. Go replay that bit. Nicole knew what was coming later that night. Charisma. Not a great attribute to be honest. The most deceitful (and sometimes violent) people are the most charismatic people ever. It's a mask, hiding their true selves. There seems an inverse formula, the more charismatic the person, the more to be wary of them. And domestic abusers are often regarded by everyone else as "the nicest guy". Big old 🚩 At the time this went down, we had CNN on cable. So watched the riots after Rodney King, watched the aftermath of Nicole and Ron's murder. Even at the time, when I had no deep understanding of DV situations, it was clear that he was guilty. Even watching the trial unfold, it was clear he was going to get off (King, his celebrity, lawyer dream team). I did not live in LA, but imagine it really would have kicked off big time if he had been found guilty, such was the racial tension in LA at the time. You had to 'be there' (in the time or location) to really understand the mood. Just stepping back to the head injury stuff. Even with his first wife, apart from the beatings was the strangulation report. In DV risk assessment, that is 🚩🚩🚩 and means the abuser is high risk of killing someone (wife, kids, both, anyone else that happens to be around). This was long before any obvious effects of the TBI business. If I were to guess, OJ would rank high on the psychopathic scale. His inappropriate laughter at times is a huge tip off. He was definitely 'empty' inside.
Murder isn't a prediction or facial expression The subject of domestic violence was introduced at trial, the photograph wasn't admitted Any point of domestic violence is after the verdict You would take Nicole Brown"s statements as the truth, only because of the murders Not Nicole Browns side of the story Statements are stricken from the record with physical evidence
“If I’m out in the garden, you must pardon.” That’s it… you’ve done it- You caught me so off guard that I chocked my sip of water. Holy crap, the way I cackled in between gasping for air. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 😂😂😂😂
Hey. I was one of the people that was passionate at the time of the trial about OJ's innocence, (I was 21ish at the time) I want to say that you did a great job with explaining this. Like, OJ **WAS** squeaky clean, a smart, funny, good looking dude before the trial as far as we knew it as a general public. It REALLY effected the trial press and general sentiment. We've learned better in the years since. Hope he burns. You presented this part especially well. You reminded me of what it felt like back then. Well done. Just wanted to say that, have a good one. :)
The pics you showed of the baby that passed away is Arnelle Simpson! .... Not Aaren Simpson. Arnelle is the surviving daughter that grew up & was there through the trials.
Small children drowning in backyard pools is very common. People really need to put better safeguards in place to protect their children. One of which being an alarm for the gate leading to the pool so that the parents can be alerted if the child opens the gate unattended.
Marguerite dodged the worst of it when Nicole became OJ's affair partner. Be careful what you wish for. You may think you are gaining someone's great marriage/life and instead you stole someone else's hell. 😞
I mean not only that OJ distance himself from a lot of black movements back in the 70’s when we had kareem, Brown, Ali, Russell, and many other Influential Black men and women trying to fight for civil rights. He off telling the press “I’m not black I’m O.J” he was LUCKY That Rodney king got beat up during the time he did the murder. Because we all knew he did it, it was just the fact that black folks wanted OJ to walk in spite of all the hardship we’ve gone through.
I've heard of authorities who wanted the old goat to walk. The authorities knew that if the old goat was put back in a cage, Marcia Clark and Chris Darden would be chased to the edge of the earth and injured worse than you could ever imagine. The authorities were afraid ghetto folks would burn, pillage, and gun down anyone who got in "their" way. Whenever the rioters get thick in number, the police get orders to get in their cars and drive as far away from the riots as possible.
Those people are disgusting. What if it was THEIR mom, sister or daughter who was brutally slain--throat slashed and abdomen disemboweled? Oh it was just a white woman and a white guy so no harm done.
Wow it's amazing that the fact that "folks" wanted him to walk doesn't clue you into where the majority of those "hardships" come from and continue to come from. Supporting someone's criminal behavior and normalizing violence to your children couldn't possibly have negative repercussions.
I couldn't wait until that damn trial was over. It's all anyone spoke of, even my 4th grade teacher. She would play the trial during class. She screamed at me and sent me to see the principal when I asked her as politely as I could to turn it off one day. She had it on when the verdict was read and I was the only one who wasn't elated. My bias was likely a factor (my mother is white and my father beat the hell out of her regularly), but whatever the reasons, I felt OJ was guilty from the beginning. Listening to people villify Nicole and speak of his psychotic ass like a hero made me sick. I don't know what became of that teacher, but to this day, I think it's absolutely disgusting that she enabled and encouraged us to watch one nanosecond of that trial. We were 9 and 10 years old.
Excellent work, Dustin! This is a superb example of a fresh, approachable analysis to a tragic old story. I am so glad I follow your channel. You have a rare talent for combining humor and empathy with hard-slapping servings of truth. More power to you! Hope your YT channel subscriber count grows and matches your other social media accounts ASAP ❤
You are absolutely one of my favorite youtubers! I LOVE your sense of humor and make me laugh every time. But in this video you also show that you are able to bring forward hard subjects to talk about, in a professional, interesting and "your stile" way. Very good!! 👏👏👏
Fun fact. If you trace the origin of almost every gang in existence you will find that they started as a generally benevolent organization to help their communities. Source: my ex husband was in a gang in south central LA in the 90s. They had no problem with him leaving for college.
Thank you so very much for this video and for your channel in general. I was born in 1956 and throughout the 1960's my father battered and abused my mother and siblings and me. The police would come, stand around in the open garage of our house laughing and joking with my father and then leave. He was never arrested, even after giving my mother a black eye or a seriously damaged arm & shoulder. In my case, he hit me over the head with a broom handle so hard that he left a raised "goose egg" on the top of my head -- for absolutely no reason. No trip to the doctor much less the emergency room. Certainly no police called. Injuring his children was somehow his right as our father. These were terrible times for the vulnerable. In fact, marital rape, even if the spouses were separated for years and in divorce proceedings, was not illegal at the time. People raised by men like my father instantly recognized him in OJ Simpson after the murders. The narcissism, the arrogance, the smug self-confidence, the amusement at the horrific pain he caused to the families of his victims, the people rallying around and saying what a "great guy" he is despite all the mounds of evidence to the contrary. Anyone who claims that he is innocent is nothing more than a dupe and an enabler. I am so grateful that now, at 68, I am finally seeing more and more men of subsequent generations facing up to and calling out the men who committed this crimes in the past and today. Domestic violence is a scourge and must come to an end, once and for all, in the same way that we stopped the Atlantic slave trade, or emptied the interment camps in California after WWII, or liberated the ghettos and concentration camps of Europe. Horrifying abuse by hideously wrong people can be stopped if only we have the will to do so.
The fact that his hand still went into the glove says everything. He was able to put it on but said it was too small for his hand 😂 he only won the case because of conflict of interest
The "when I'm in the garden, you must pardon" line made me spit my wonderful Aldi sparkling water. By the way, if you haven't, watch OJ: Made in America.
Dustin I can’t put into words HOW impressed I am w/how u’ve managed to translate the ‘red flag’ shorts into long forum content…let alone to break it down SO eloquently & in a way that so desperately NEEDS to be HEARD… Yes… we as woman can point out these signs & talk about it from our perspective *but* the hard truth remains, there’s a certain level of power that comes w/a man speaking about these types of things… Those particular men who aren’t willing to listen to woman’s experiences… who have already shrugged them off as “there’s gotta be 2 sides of the story“ Most the time they’ve already decided they’re not going to listen to us… But.. they *will* listen to you.. Another really good example of CTE contributing to violence is Chris Benoit..(was a huge wrestling fan growing up)… (he had alotta other contributing factors but drs said his brain looked like a 80yr old man w/ Alzheimer’s.. (He m*dered his wife & child & looked up resurrection in the Bible & googled “how to bring back loved ones from the dead” ) Aside from it being well known he had brain damage from constant work … he had JUST lost him best friend & was a wreck. It ROCKED his faith & belief system.. but WWE never gave him time off… they just kept pushing & pushing him.. Like u said… there are plenty of ppl who have CTE & don’t do horrible things but; that along w/other factors create this torrential down pour.. & while this is happening, these corporations (like WWE & NFL) are seeing the ramifications of what’s happening, but rather than giving a fk about the human… they see a piggy bank…everything else is collateral damage… Fantastic video! & from the bottom of my heart, thank you! Would LOVE to see more of these ‘in hindsight’ videos🩵
That jury was never going to convict him. Saw an interview of a juror and she made the comment about Rodney King and payback for that. No justice was served for Nicole or Ron.
It was a different time. I think it’s really hard for people who were too young to understand how much things have changed with criminal cases. That being said, Robert Durst was found not guilty and freely admitted to murdering, dismembering, and disposing of his neighbor in garbage bags so you never can tell what a jury will do.
@@Janjones7735 well I qualify for AARP . Different time? I'm guess I am not connecting your point. That jury pool was tainted. And Bob Durst is serving life.
I was 8 when this happened. I vaguely remember the car chase. I remember my teacher putting the verdict on in class, she polled us on what we thought it would be. Knowing nothing, I said not guilty. I remember going to my dad's on the weekend , he said people at his work wanted to kill OJ. I had no idea why people were so upset. I wish I didn't to this day.
TW: CTE and mental health in sports My late stepdad had CTE from playing college football. He ended up getting very paranoid and thinking there were people that were following him and he ended up going off the grid. About a year later my mother got a call that he had passed due to a cyst that had not been treated and ruptured, leaving my 5 year old sister fatherless. Sooooo yeah I have a rough relationship with football culture. When I remember cases like this I know there’s a lot of other factors that go into why people make decisions, but I have a passionate hatred for the way that footballers and other contact sportsmen do not get adequate support or care.
If your an abused person.. You better have an exit strategy.... Do not count on help from police.... And if you drop charges, let them come back etc...police will stop taking you seriously..be careful out there,who you decide to stay with...
Family & domestic courts can be awful. Long lines, staffs who screw up records 📂 forms. I had a 2015 court case, domestic problem with a violent neighbor. The county court office screwed up the case numbers, files. The neighbor never showed up for any court hearings. 👨⚖️ ... the guy died ⚰️ in 2023.
It's not always easy to tell who is an abuser. My friend married a man who was prominent and well liked in her church. After marriage he showed his true colors as an abusive drunk who used her as a punching bag. Finally it was to the point he was trying to kill her and make it look like an accident. He ended up driving her car off a cliff with her in it leaving her for dead. Luckily she wasn't dead and the car was seen from the road. Three weeks in a coma and multiple broken bones resulting in a six month hospital stay. He was never charged but she filed for divorce. He was left with the hospital bill which was in seven figures.
Doesnt mean anything. She hit him up for money, stayed just a mile away from him when she had the means to move farther away, and she even worte him a letter wanting ro reconcile after the divorce
@naithngr81-jh2bb Such were the effects of his pathetic and frequently criminal attempts to control her. He was a murderer who couldn't take "no" for an answer.
19:20 silly funny reminder! its not "charisma," lets call it what it is. Manipulation. He manipulated millions of people even if indirectly, he changed the way people viewed him by carefully crafting his image in a positive way. (No offense is meant by this comment btw, i just wanted to add my own perspective. great video, my dude!)
This was interesting to watch and I would like to see more content like this one. Definitely handled this topic with grace and was also something engaging to watch. Great job!
That was so good. Thank you, I didn't know that whole story, and I loved that you named him all kinds of different things through out your video. Very good. Hope you get lots of views
Big fan of your videos since finding your channel recently! One suggestion would be jn the sound editing, the volume tends to be much higher when yourw outside which is kind of jarring but otherwise definitely keep up the good work!
Trying to fit those gloves on like OJ did in court was foul lmao. About the case tho, I do think it's wild that there's been so many people that genuinenly think he didn't do it. I only recently actually watched a documentary about the case and I had assumed that was going to be more obscure than what it really was. He definitely did it.
Somehow I imagine someone passing by as you’re running around with the flag and going “well that’s as sure a sign as any” before turning around from whatever they were on their way to and going home.
Hahaha yeah just straight up "that's a nope from me, then" 😂
Dude was probably heading to a tinder date😂
LOL 🙌 delighted by your imagination ✨
Moments earlier they uttered "god please send me a sign" 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
As a black woman and I was born in 1985 so thank you for bringing to light how long this tragedy has lasted and she got no justice. I had a strong suspicion that he did kill her and what sold me is when he wrote a book about how he would have done it if he did it.
This…he 100% did it in my mind
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Not at all
The copyrights, of
[If] I DID IT , belong to Judith Reagan &
Fred Goldman
According to the civil litigation, which can't be a criminal charge
Or overrule a superior court decision .
The interview challenged Judith Reagan"s theory of domestic violence,
that was stricken from the record
Petrocelli" s exhausting, repeated questioning of everything that didn't matter !
Mentioning a hypothetical theory only needs to be repeated to anyone that can't understand the definition.
No knife , no bloody clothing no eyewitness no timeline !
It's crazy the incident on New year's day in 1989 I was born just 8 days after that incident when Nicole claimed he was trying to killed her and to think 5 years later in 1994 she was brutally murdered by him. Shows the system failed her.
I didn’t know about OJ until a Family Guy episode and I knew he did it.
Yes he wrote that book, but let's also not forget the evidence... The bloody glove at his property... His blood at the crime scene... Everyone's blood in his bronco... The cut on his finger and his blood in that exact spot in the glove... Should I go on?
I know everyone likes to focus on the insanity that was the trial, but this part of the story is always so forgotten. Nicole lived terrified for years of this man and she got no justice for what happened to her.
She never got to see her children grow up and never broke free from this man's abuse which is a true tragedy in all of this.
The fact he murdered her when their children were sleeping upstairs is so understated, truly evil.
And poor Ron as well, treated as a footnote in his own murder. All he did was to do a favor for a friend and ended up getting murdered for it.
Thank you for bringing attention to this part of the story which most people sadly glosses over
In the paper, it was reported that there were 62 police reports of abuse by his wife before he murdered her. It’s insane that police negligence ruined what should’ve been an easy conviction and life prison sentence.
Please understand, OJ bay have been affected due to soo many concussions from extremeky tough hits to his head...that is all that I wanna say!!! Please, please understand that OJ definitely wasn't a dirty animal ...it hurts me to read so many people putting out Lies bout the Juice....by the way, please call OJ the Juice ....He was an amazing Guy...ps, dont believe the Lies.😊
And left them to find her. It was only by the grace of God and circumstance that they didn't find her
The truth about Nicole Brown, is just something that you don't want to know
@@KevinShaughnessy-lf3vs Oh shut up.
This guy’s narcissism is through the roof.. I remember being in middle school when his trial started and having a school survey on whether he’d be found guilty or not guilty.. I was the only black kid who voted guilty and was called a “sellout” for selecting guilty.
You are far from a sellout. You are one of society's protectors. After people saw all these dudes who end people's lives, criminals thought they could get away with what they did to George Floyd, Cherica Adams, and Megan Thee Stallion. When all those people who committed those crimes are released, the public will not be safe.
@@MrJuvefrankGeorge Floyd is decorated criminal. You need to stop looking at people as a whole race and judge the individuals character or lack thereof.
I went to an all white(I'm white, too) Catholic school for middle school. The girls said guilty and the boys said not guilty. Can you guess one o the reasons I'm not Catholic anymore?
@@heathercontois4501 That many White males in a school said things like that? That's all right. If you write things on TH-cam that are difficult to believe, I can just put you on mute. Every day for the rest of your life, your mythical communications are blocked from my account. Think of it as a learning experience.
I'm a woman and in my high-school we did a vote of whether women should be drafted if there ever is another draft. I'm the only girl who said yes and all the other girls were mad at me.
Please consider more [Vile Person Here] Missed Red Flags deep dives like this - either passed away or currently incarcerated. Your easy to digest journalism with top tier hilarious near-slapstick names is excellent!
Like Aaron Hernandez. I feel like he could do that in a more lighthearted way as it is so jarring.
Ted Bundy
Check out Respect the Dead! They do deep dives on dead people who sucked with all the reference they deserve.
I second this!❤
@@Toriiiiiiiiii11oh indeed it was. I watched the patriots my whole childhood so I was like I’m sorry wha? That was a wild ass day
I was a young adult working my first job when the trial occurred. The day the verdict was read we gathered around a tv. When they said not guilty every white person‘s face was stricken, the Black people in my office were cheering clapping jumping around. This is more about our judicial system than OJ. I think they felt that they have been denied justice for so long, that any black man getting off, was something to celebrate. It was very disturbing. I’ll never forget it.
Yeah, he became a figurehead for POC who were being unfairly incarcerated. Instead of concern for the truth and justice, it became about race. Here was a dark skinned man who fought the system and won, his guilt was irrelevant to so many.
@@akirababe1570 I mean, 'Black man on trial for murder of white women' without it all ending in the death penalty was a novelty at the time. And let's not pretend police didn't have a history of scapegoating black men for crimes involving white women.
Add that to his previously clean image (which probably means there wasn't reporting on his violence), a cop known to be racist (right after Rodney King), and the evidence being tampered with? I kinda get why there was a knee-jerk 'oh, they arrested him because he was the easiest suspect, and they needed to cover their asses after letting the press destroy all the evidence' from the general public. Not saying it was right, just that I understand the logic.
They still very much do that.
That's scares me because at the end of the day, innocent people go to jail or get killed while guilty Narcissists always get away with things :/
@@akirababe1570that's still the case with black America
It shouldn't be up to the victim whether or not to arrest a perpetrator of domestic violence. If there is sufficient evidence of an attack, arrest should be automatic.
I believe it depends on the state but where I live, if a person commits a violent crime, the state prosecutes them not the victim. I think that's what makes a big difference. If the court case is state v. Abuser or victim v. Abuser. The victim doesn't have to do anything at all, but it helps if they give a statement for evidence. If it's on camera or has witnesses then the state won't need the victim to provide any evidence at all.
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A victim has to testify to physical abuse.
It isn't the hearsay of anyone that is involved with an argument
That would be perjury with a violation of rights in any American state
My ex abused me and the cops showed up for one of the incidents. I was still very much in the thick of the relationship so I said I didn't want to press charges and they flat out told me "cool. you don't get to make that choice, the DA does." I live in California but I think every state should have laws like that. Thank God they pressed charges 😅
@KevinShaughnessy-lf3vs the victim doesn't need to testify if there's enough physical evidence to determine that abuse happened. My ex was charged based on injuries to me vs. him. The police know what defensive injuries look like and can typically determine who was the aggressor by what the injuries look like. For instance, I had red marks around my neck/a bite on my finger and he had scratches on his chest/neck. The police could already tell that his injuries were consistent with me defending myself. A vast majority of DV survivors don't want to testify against their abuser because of safety or because they are so deep in the relationship.
@@KevinShaughnessy-lf3vs you don't know what you're talking about. He was arrested in 1989 for abusing nicole so bad that she had to be hospitalized. Keep parroting the wrong information, you're digging a hole you can't get out of.
People knew. I personally saw Nicole with a black eye. People in Hollywood absolutely knew, this was no secret.
When and where did you see her? Not doubting your story, he was well known to be abusive. I’m just curious
Oh wow. And no one saved her. There had to be powerful people in their circles. This was absolutely avoidable.
And the fact that the industry let her be terrorized, abused, and eventually murdered all before painting her as the cheating villain. Not only did it allow this to happen to her but this negligence stole her children's mother and that is a debt that can never be paid.
But they were more of LA celebrities not super into the Hollywood movie circles…my older sister was her age and knew her, they had friends in common. It was known what she was dealing with regarding OJ, different times back then. It was considered taboo to get involved in someone’s marriage
Well I feel like with all the celebs being exposed lately, we now know most of them are terrible people hiding their own secrets.
I was not expecting OJ's real name, "Ornamental Jim Smithsonian", to be dropped 😂
Gotta bring out the government names
Orenthal James Simpson
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@@core17 that’s his govt name habib .
@@JoeRogansForehead And you're completely missing that the OP knows that and was appreciating Dustyn's joke in which he called him Ornamental Jim Smithsonian.
... explaining the joke makes it so much funnier....
The red flags weren't missed, they were ignored because he was talented, famous, and rich. Respect The Dead did a 2 episode deep dive on him, the murders, the trial, and the aftermath.
Nicole reached out to people. She had evidence, she took photos, she documented injuries, and at least once she told people that OJ was going to kill her. He systematically dismantled her support systems, isolated her, wrecked her self-esteem, and when he was finally sure that he was going to lose control of her, he murdered her.
Thinking about how scared Nicole was of him makes my heart ache.
The fact that she went to a bar with him just days before he murdered her -- even though they were already separated -- speaks to the level of fear she had towards him, his level of aggression, and just how bad the stalking was. I think she felt that going somewhere with him would at least just temporarily get him to stop, not just for the sake of her but especially her children.
@@DustinPoynterVideosnot only did she willingly go to out with him, she also hit him up for money, she had actually written him a letter after the divorce wanting to reconcile and that was actually mentioned at the trial and you can look it up and read the letter online,
And, for somebody supposedly so scared, she chose to move away only just a mile away when she had the means to move me much farther away
How scared could you be really when you do all of this?
@@naithngr81-jh2bb BINGO... She wanted to get back with OJ
@@naithngr81-jh2bb Nicole didnt deserve to be killed. That being said she seems to have been "WELL KNOWN"and a hot commodity in NFL Police Politicians and general dirt bag circles for "UNKNOWN REASONS" . The fact that OJ is not either Spiderman Bat man or an Orangutan rules him out completely to me considering the high level of slaughtering done within a 5 minute time frame ! Furman and LAPD didn't know it was OJ but they doctored the scene to ensure all fingers point to him ! Also Nicole and Rons friends were also from the restaurant were also slaughtered shortly after them. Which says to me LAPD covered up probably the biggest scandal in history that they were a part of for years !
@@DustinPoynterVideos There was huge pressure on her to reconcile with him bc her dad was working for OJ. Her family wouldnt let her leave him (due to the perks) and she did not disclose the severity of the abuse😞
A gross misuse of power. That poor woman cried for help and NOT A SINGLE PERSON CARED NOR BELIEVED HER.
Just another day of being a woman =/
Not true. People believed her . She wasn't going to mess with her child support and alimony by putting him in jail for past domestic violence. Nicole divorced that coked out animal.
I took a forensics crime class, basically how people investigate murders and all, and this case was used as an example of what not to do. The short of it was that too many reporters were let on the property and the cops weren’t taking it as seriously as needed.
For those crimes, nothing can be touched or moved before pictures are taken of evidence. But all the reporters and cops were wandering around, smearing the blood and their hands and fingerprints everywhere. It was just enough to fuck up all the physical evidence from the scene that it was impossible to tell OJ’s prints and dna from everyone else’s.
That’s called tampering with a crime scene kids
Plus a cop pled the 5th on the witness stand about whether he planted evidence in the case. At that point, a jury simply has to acquit. (And yes, he did it.)
I've watched a lot of crime docs lately on cases from the 70s, 80s and 90s and I'm floored at how regular of an occurrence it was to botch crime scene evidence like this. Just a ton of corruption and incompetence coming outta this era.
@@DustinPoynterVideos The years after the OJ trial also saw a lot more exposure of just how pervasively the LAPD planted evidence. (Something the targeted communities were well aware of, already.)
It’s tragic for the families, the straw to break the camel’s back against the abusive practices and total lack of public trust was the acquittal of an obviously guilty murderer. But the fact is, OJ couldn’t have gotten away with murder without all that generous help from the LAPD.
A lot of those "what not to do" are rules now BECAUSE of that case. It really reshaped how crime scenes are managed and how evidence is preserved. Some of those rules were already in place and were just ignored, but many were added or made MUCH stricter after this one.
I wonder if my class had the same textbook because this case was one of two that were used as examples of botched investigations. The one detail I remember was that they put a blanket or sheet over the bodies to hide them from the paparazzi that was from somewhere on the property, not a sterile sheet, so there was almost guaranteed evidence contamination.
i was twelve years old when that verdict came in. they showed it live on all the TVs at my junior high school. that was the first time in my life i discovered that guilty people could get away with murder. it had never occurred to me until that day.
YAWN
And people cheered.
@@angelmartin7310 they had good reason to do so, because OJ was innocent of the murders
And above we see commenters being mean without provocation. Perhaps they are fighting for territory. Perhaps they are taking their anger out on a lone commenter without risk of reprimand. We may never know... but there is hope.
What insightful commentary@@naithngr81-jh2bb
One really wild thing about the case is how it reshaped crime scene investigations and evidence handling. A HUGE amount of the defense was just poking holes in chain of custody, saying "well, how do you KNOW that blood wasn't smeared in the car by your tech who was in the house?" A lot of the very strict guidelines CSIs and forensic techs abide by now came about as a result of that case. People can't move from one crime scene to another (e.g., from the house to the vehicle) without stripping off all their protective gear and putting on a new set. Chain of custody is much more strictly tracked.
If it happened today, the investigators would've had much more rigid procedures to prevent compromising evidence or contaminating a crime scene, and the defense would've had a MUCH steeper uphill climb to defend him.
Huh, I didn't know that part! So it's kinda like the titanic of forensics. (All the safety drills/procedures for ships are because of that sinking, the titanic literally didn't have enough life boats for everyone on board)
Tell the whole truth, not only was there violation of chain of custody but also the so called blood evidence amounted to specks and contained preservative and the lead detective pleaded the fifth for planting evidence.
It's not all that shocking. Unfortunately that's generally what it takes to make much needed adjustments happen. Just like the other person comment about the Titanic it often takes an obvious failure to make progress in many aspects. It's not like those changes appeared out of nowhere they had been proposed before like with many other noted tragedies but were ignored. Sadly this well not be the final example of humanities brutal learning curve. As its been repeated many times since and is must likely ongoing even now with our current climate situation. Maybe the next dominant species will be capable of learning from its mistakes before its too late.
How would a tech changing protective gear from one scene to another make OJ harder to defend? And what is the chain of custody (and what about it changed)?
I have no knowledge about the inner workings of legal systems, so I'm genuinely curious.
@@juliastrawn2113 It doesn't make him harder to defend -- it makes him harder to prosecute. For example, if the prosecution says "This smear of Nicole's blood in O.J.'s car places him at the scene," the defense replies, "How can you be sure one of your techs didn't PUT that blood there after getting it on their clothes at the house, then searching the car?"
Chain of custody refers to who had possession of a piece of evidence between its collection (when it was picked up at the scene) and when it's presented in court. Evidence will often be transported, change hands, etc., and it is STRICTLY logged who took possession, when, etc. If there is a break in this chain -- e.g., a period where the item's whereabouts and custodian can't be verified -- then it's possible for the defense to say "You can't be sure this isn't the exact item that was at the scene." Any forensic testing performed after the break in chain of custody won't be admissible in court, and the evidence itself won't be admissible.
Prior to the O.J. case, investigators weren't as careful about cross contamination (e.g., they didn't have techs remove their protective gear after being on one scene and then putting on all new gear at the next scene, preventing transfer of blood, etc). They also weren't quite as careful about chain of custody.
Hope that helps!
OJ Simpson was the first choice to play the terminator. But the directors thought the idea of OJ as a violent killer was totally unbelievable and so they cast Arnold.
If James Cameron had waited another 10 years....
Hertz rent a car cancelled the old goat's contract when they learned his D.N.A. was at a murder scene.
The irony it’s so terribly sad it’s almost funny. But an innocent woman and man died for that irony. It’s just a tragedy. OJ Simpson walked away with murder and with thousands of fans still in love with him 😟
Probably for the best. Would many people wanna watch that movie after this? 😂
@@JupiterMuffles O.J. Simpson was a goat.
I'm still appalled that some people cheered when he was found "not guilty".
The people around me knew there was no doubt.
Most of the black community. Most know he's guilty too.
@Bigchet1223 Are you saying most of them cheered and also knew? Or that most simply knew?
I'm struggling to understand which one you mean.
@@Lydia-Frost I'm saying out of principle they'll say OJ was innocent. But I think most of them know he did it.
@Bigchet1223 That's gross and wrong of them. Better to speak truth than promoting a lie.
This keeps getting done again and again with criminals who have the right skin color. George Floyd was no martyr, but they won't admit it.
@@Bigchet1223Oof. If that's true that's really stupid. It's disgusting and it helps nothing.
You're right Dustin, you don't want to hear the 911 calls.
I muted the sound when I gathered the footage for the 911 call for this video, and just seeing the words on the screen was uncomfortable.
@@DustinPoynterVideoshonestly the call from Nicole isn't that bad, she just sounds scared
@@bennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn- When she’s saying he’ll beat the 💩 out of her and he’s making it through different doors to where she is, it’s terrifying. When he starts hitting her, it’s horrific.
@@toritori5835 then I must've not heard that call... I was thinking about the one where she says "he's back, can you please send someone".. in that call she sounds more annoyed than anything else
@@bennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnit's the same one that you're thinking where she said he's back and the dispatcher says stay on the line with me and she says I don't want to cuz he's going to beat the s*** out of me
Untreated mental health is so dangerous.
My mom is a narcissist and she now has psychosis. I'm disabled and she came up with this delusion that I made up my disabilities to be lazy and take advantage of her, even though she's never actually done anything to help me or made me feel like I can depend on her or trust her.
My mom also refused to have my ADHD treated when I was a child and I wasn't diagnosed with Autism until I was 19. Now I suffer from several mental disorders, including OCD, mild hoarding disorder, alienation, paranoia, and hallucinations. Based on the mental evaluation I took when I was 19, I was on my way to developing Schizophrenia. It does run in my family but it's rare in my family.
With me, my untreated mental health lead to self destruction because my mother was abusive. But clearly because of my mother's untreated mental health and OJ's untreated mental health, it lead to them hurting others.
Oh, and the state of your mental health is never an excuse to hurt others. I often say my sin is Wrath because Wrath used to be something I struggled with but I gained control over it on my own. While mental health conditions can cause one to not know the difference between right and wrong, it doesn't mean we can't learn. There are too many resources now that are easily available to prevent insanity from causing crime.
It's people like OJ and my mom who refuse to accept help that end up harming others and they should be held responsible for their crime and for refusing the help to prevent it.
100% mental health is an explanation, not an excuse. It's one of the hardest battles I have had to fight, but at the end of the day: only you can help yourself when your own mind is the enemy. It's not easy at all, and it can be a long gruelling road, but it CAN absolutely be overcome.
When I first experienced symptoms of anxiety and depression, I remember thinking to myself "is this how I'm going to feel for the rest of my life now?" Having overcome that - multiple times now - when I do feel those symptoms come back, I hold fast to the knowledge that I can get better again, feel happy again, as my light in the darkness.
@@WingedAsarath The second that my depression or anxiety comes back, I harass my doctor until he increases my medication, and I feel better. I hate feeling either.
I hope you understand how proud you should be of taking care of yourself! That shit is HARD. Mental health problems are rarely one's fault but are always one's responsibility.
I was late diagnosed in my mid 30s. Wish I was diagnosed at 19. My dad is definitely a narcissist. Never apologized, always blames others for his mistakes, and was sometimes violent when I was young. He’s also now misogynist despite having a wife and 3 daughters. Arguing with him is like arguing with a screaming 4 year old except he’s an adult man and can be scary. Sometimes, you need to distance from family. Some people don’t understand that. All of his side of the family sided with him against me when I brought up his narcissism. I realized they don’t care. I now concentrate on friends who do care.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. My dad didn’t believe I was suffering from panic/anxiety disorder and depression. My family didn’t have a lot of money and in general just didn’t believe in medication even though I was 17 and had a history of head injuries along with panic attacks plus suicidal ideation. I never got medicated until I was hospitalized in my late twenties.
When mental health goes ignored or is stigmatized you end up with shattered people and unfortunate stories like yours. I self-medicated with illegal drugs and other harmful acts. I hope you succeed in spite of everything. Please take care. 🌸✌️
Well done, Dustin! You examined an ugly subject with dignity, grace and the appropriate touch of humour while maintaining respect for Nicole and Ron. Thank you
Nicole Brown had no dignity
Thank you Dustin, everything that you are saying is 100% true! I hope that you continue taking about all you say! I Love your message. OJ should not drive the blame for everything bad you were accused of! Don't blame OJ at all.
@@daviddavis3389since you know OJ so well, did you go to his funeral? And I'm also curious...did the urn fit?
@@QueenAlexis556 did the UMH fit? Is that a secret code Ms Alexis? Because I have 0 meaning of what you are trying to to say!
Wow, I think you need glasses. I mean, Id say youre trolling, but since all you did was burn yourself hard I dont think youre trolling.
URN. You know, a place for cremated ashes?
The 911 call is mostly the 911 operator asking Nicole to stay on the phone so it picks up more of OJ's insane and violent screaming
Yes! Those true colors came out and are forever to be heard on the Internet 🤭
The part where he is calling her “his woman” just days before he killed her she looks so uncomfortable
The way she was watching him, it just breaks my heart that she ever met him. To live in that terror for years. Horrible.
He did the classic sweet and devoted man act
@@goingferalluvs More like the classic abusive territorial pissing bullsh.
It's so sad and terrifying that domestic violence is so easily perpetuated.
What’s more terrifying is how often it’s just ignored by anyone who could do something
'Domestic' violence (so-named) is insidious because there are no witnesses to spill the beans... except possibly the young children.....
"if you're out in the garden you must pardon!" 😂 That is great.
absolute gold, i actually cackled at that one. he’s got such sharp quick wit! i wish i could come up with the things he does
I think the financial control is also a large factor of why Nicole stayed. Nicole was a teenager when she met OJ, and within weeks her demanded that she leave the apartment she was sharing with a friend to move into an apartment he paid for. She never got to be independent and come into herself as an adult. It's part of what makes her death so tragic, too. Right when Nicole was finally breaking away from Simpson, he took her life.
Yes! And her father was also indebted to him for finding him a role at hertz, and he supported her parents more generally. Dominick dunne made a famous observation (believe it was him) that all the simpson daughters, tho grown up middle class, had boob jobs but no college degree. Nicole was obvs intelligent but she never got to go where she belonged in life by getting involved with this man at a young age.... Her family did report that Nicole had made comments about physical arguments, being thrown v a dresser etc, and they knew he was handsy, at the least....
My sister worked at the Brain Trauma Foundation after undergrad. Her job was to assess high school and college football players in the New York area after they sustained head injuries, and the pressure they received to get back on the field despite being actively concussed was insane. The entire sport is broken.
Here's the problem- I contacted the director of the TBI center in Boston to see if I could be studied...
"I'm sorry- we're only interested in studying MALES who are/were athletes/military"...
The exceptionally BRUTAL reality:
They care more about the potential predators, than those who have experienced many concussions from accidents and recurring abuse.
It's a pretty sick system.
Yup, American football is f’ed up. It has caused so many murders and suicides. Beyond unfortunate, there is tons of money in football they can invest in some advancements in safety gear. Absolutely unacceptable. CTE is no joke, head trauma (especially repeated) is no joke.
And to think that the Kardashian clan was built from Nicole’s blood. Ive always thought that.
No that was the sex tape. I don’t think Robert Kardashian would have let his daughters be like this. Especially not allow that video to be released. In fact, being a well known attorney, he probably would have done everything to stop it. That was all Kris’ doing.
@@leleigh934This trial is what first put the Kardashian name out there.
@@MayorDeezy Really? Didn’t know that!🙄*thinly veiled sarcasm* Robert Kardashian was one of his attorneys. But the reason we are inundated with Kardashians/Jenners is because of that damn sex tape. And Kris making sure it got released for the world to see. (I know we all should all want the best for our kids, but what kind of parent does that?)
That is what started their so called dynasty. That had nothing to do with that very well respected attorney or that trial. No one knew who Kim and the rest of them were during that trial. And Robert was dead before everything happened. She made that tape the year before he passed. Notice they waited 4 years before they released. Probably cause he wasn’t gonna be down for the bullshit.
I said what I said. Don’t correct me again.
@@MayorDeezyhe was one of the least publicized attorneys from that trail. The judge and district attorneys got more attention from it. Cochran and Shaprio got the attention for the defense. It was more a case of people remembering after the fact than that being a driving force to it.
@@marcning918 It was still one of the most publicized trials of all time. Even if he barely had the spotlight on him that's still millions of Americans that knew his name after that. If anything it just opened doors to opportunities
Thank you for demonstrating how a person can PRETEND his own gloves don't fit. That part of the trial was so frustrating because so many people believed those couldn't be his gloves.
Not to mention the glove was frozen….frozen fabric will shrink.
Also, I’ve heard most of his attorneys speak and one of them said he was worried about the glove fitting so the attorney suggested he stop taking his arthritis meds. If you know what that does, it makes your joints swell. So a glove that would normally fit won’t. 🤷🏻♀️
"Young Tropicana"!! I am rolling with laughter.
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Hilarious! All of the names, so funny. Which was needed because this is a heavy topic.
So good!
"Juicy Simpleton" XD
The thing about the "teerible childhood leads to murder" assumptionis that throughout history, MOST people suffered trauma as children. Slavery, war, famine, poverty, sexual and physical abuse--everybody took a trip on the Crazy Making Train. And yes, this did lead to a higher number of violent and disturbed people than you would find in peaceful and prospeerous societies and we should definitely think of that, but they were never more than say, 20% of the population. The other 80% managed to grow up with some semblance of deceny. OJ was violent because he wanted to be.
Scientists said the old goat slit his ex-wife's throat. Folks in the ghetto say the old goat wasn't violent.
My late husband had met OJ & his entourage (he ALWAYS had one) several times over the years. He said OJ NEVER did his own fighting in the hood. His closest hanger on always protected him. Hubs was always convinced OJ didn't do his own murders, the good buddy did it for him.
@@patricialong3492 Did you talk to law enforcement about this?
@@patricialong3492there is a theory he didn't do it alone
I think it was a perfect storm of childhood trauma, repeated head injuries, and narcissism that made OJ a killer. It's a combination of nature, nurture, and free choice.
One more thing though… as a 7 year survivor of domestic violence, NO ONE gives a shit about it still… so I get that you say people care about it… they really don’t.
I'm very sorry this happened to you.
@@arfriedman4577 thank you .
In the end..we are all alone.
@@_Elizabeth_theMaid 💯💯💯
@@darkheartsartccollective you are probably the toughest bitch you will ever know. I hope you got away and are able to breathe again.
This was done superbly, Dustin. I won’t be mad at all if you did more backstory/background pieces.
Just read her journals… “ he beat me so bad” . He killed her.
She was "so scared" yet she with him after the divorce, she also got him up for money after the divorce, actually wrote a letter to him after the divorce wanting to reconcile (yrs, that was at the trial too, and nobody talks about it) and also Nicole had only moved away one mile when she had the means to move quite farther away.
Doesn't look like she was really so "scared" of OJ like mainstream "OJ did it" media narrative
Respect for how you chose to honor the victims and acknowledge domestic violence awareness .💜
But you're not aware of what Nicole Brown did
You're only defending one side of a story
@@KevinS702they had a Roxie terrible relationship but she is dead and brutally murdered. So it was not deserved. He could have just moved far away or never speak to her again or better yet seek therapy and medical care but no. He had too much of an ego to do anything decent and the people around him noticed how ill he was and did nothing about it
The amount of names you came up with for him is sending me.
For real, though, thank you so much for this. It's a fantastic overview of such a horrific event and terrible person.
Rest in love Nicole Brown Simpson and Ron Goldman. Thank you for covering this. You're humor made this much easier to watch.
What I find is… there are always red flags with these people. I think it’s important for us to learn from these demons and stay away when we see *any* of these traits in people we come across in life.
We should teach it in school, but that won't happen, because then people would wise up to parents, administrators, police, the state, religion, and so on
@@CMStrawbridge the second-best option is to teach it through fiction: show those signs as bad, instead of romanticizing them for teens and young adults. Still gonna ruffle a few feathers, but the more it gets encoded as "absolute bastard backstabber" tropes, the more people will realize this is what the real monsters are.
“What did you do that made him so mad?”
I stood there with a chipped tooth and a black eye and had to defend myself. This was normal for an abused woman in the 1970s. I’m so lucky I got out alive. And I’m so grateful that my generation went on to change laws. Before that, women really didn’t have the right to be safe. My heart breaks for for the victims.
I have ADHD it's very hard for me to watch a video in full but you are so easy to listen to and hilarious that I really enjoyed this video and all your videos keep them coming
I have ADHD too, so I get it LOL. You have no idea how many side quests I went on while making this video. Thank you so much for saying that though, that is awesome!! I've got another one dropping this weekend!
Im the same. I watched the whole thing. Hes amazing
My grandmother refused to believe OJ was guilty until her death. That was how powerful his good-guy image was back then.
More of the crime stuff please. You do it so well. Your handling of this was amazing
Thank you so much!!
Agreed! I would love to see more red flag content of famous people
Ditto
Brentwood hello? what is that?
"Young Tropicana" I laughed out loud and scared my cat. Needed that to offset how sad this all was.
Have you done one of these on Mike Tyson yet? I'm so sick of seeing him praised after what he did to his wife.
I did not know Mike Tyson did this shit to his wife, that's awful
I just looked that up and what the fuck??? Tyson admitted to raping women and people in the subreddit under the post were just talking about his fights
@@undeadsweetheart7508he beat her with a telephone
And his rape victim.
@@undeadsweetheart7508 Robin Givens. He beat the hell out of her all the time. Barbara Walters did a special interviewing them, and like she always does, she intentionally poked the bear to get explosive reactions. She brought up his abuse, which terrified Robin. Mike said he was going to get help for his temper. After the interview, he accused Robin of setting him up (she had told Barbara what would happen if she brought it up so told her not to talk about the abuse). He beat Robin so bad, she was in the hospital. Years later, he says he was the one traumatized by that relationship. He's a piece of sh-t.
You’re *killing me* with all the different names you have for him 😂 In all seriousness, yeah, I can’t believe most people ignored most of his played off killing jokes. I grew up calling him Orange Juice Simpson.
Ornamental Jim cracked me up😂.. he was a psychotic mess,... I never understood how he got away with this... Totally ridiculous.
@@jenniferharrington917 As soon as Hertz Rent a Car learned the old goat slit his ex-wife's throat, they cancelled his contract on the spot. I don't know if it's true, but I heard that at least one restaurant manager went up to him, and said, "I'm sorry; we don't serve O.J. here."
Juicy Simpleton was best 🔥🚒🔥
lol same
My cousin was a police officer with the Los Angeles Police Department prior to her murder, & told me that they were called to their house several times for domestic abuse done by O.J. He was convinced that O.J. was guilty of her murder.
Domestic dispute doesn't mean murder a few years after a divorce when. Oj had already been in a new relationship, and it was Nicole who had written OJ a letter (look it up, it was at the trial) wanting to get back together.
And domestic violence from a few years before doesn't give you the idea to not only murder someone, but give them a Colombian necktie the same way that just happened to also be done to Ron's boss.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb Shut up O.J. lover.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb Give it up dude. You love OJ, you hate women. We get it. Now go back to your basement, you come off as a bot anyway.
He definitely did. It’s not really in dispute unless you’re a weird conspiracy nut like someone bombarding the comments in this video😂…
I’d never considered CTE as a contributing factor, but it makes a lot of sense actually. It’s highly suspected that CTE was a huge contributing factor to why Chris Benoit did what he did on top of the other examples mentioned in the video. Head trauma is no joke man, it can turn a normal person into a monster under the wrong circumstances.
Oj may have had cte but cte doesnt make someone a killer.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb Obviously not. Explanation isn’t the same as justification; not every reason is a good one, sometimes it just sucks.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb CTE coupled with a certain type of personality might though. With CTE he may have maintained control of himself.
@@souxcasa cte doesn't make someone a comic book superpowered being.
If you had cte that's not going to negate the fact that you are in your late forties with chronic arthritis.
It's not going to give you powers to take on Ron goldman by yourself without a scratch.
Then not only kill but also mutilate their bodies the same way as was done to Ron's boss.
And cte is not going to make you super smart and fast to hide the knife and bloody clothes so well that none of its been found in thirty years now, and then male you so fast you can get to Los Angeles international airport in a timespan of twenty minutes.
@@naithngr81-jh2bb what does being comic super powered have to do with anything?
He's a grown man who's an athlete, most men could kill most women with their bare hands he wouldn't need anything extra. If he had a propensity toward violence and then brain damage took away his capacity for impulse control of course he's more likely to kill someone
I started following your channel for your Red Flag / Green Flag shorts, but I LOVE the new longer format you've been adding in. I know these have to be difficult to do; thank you so much for your thoughtful, kind videos. ❤️
Thank you so much! Longer videos on TH-cam will be my main thing going forward so that's really nice to hear. It was indeed difficult (70+ hours went into this one video) but it's very much worth it and I feel like this was an important subject to talk about.
This was soooo good. I think its important to look at the why, if we make demons out of people its easy to dismiss the behaviour. When we try to understand the why we can try and learn from it and stop it from happening again.
You nailed it! And thank you for the kind words!
This is really well done my friend. My heart still breaks for Ron and Nicole and their families.
My hubs had 2 major TBIs years ago.
When you said arguing with himself, i cracked a smile because I've seen that first hand. It can get really scary. Thankfully, he's on medication now.
Dustin, as a DV survivor I sincerely want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating a platform speaking out against domestic violence IN A MAN’S VOICE. DV survivors have long been advocating for their own and their sister’s right to live safe and in peace. I feel strongly, however, that having REAL MEN stand up and call out abusive males that the world will happily just push the potentially lethal effects of domestic violence into the shadows. I have SO much respect for what you do here!💜💜💜💜
Not to be nitpicky, but Furhman wasn't the lead detective. The leads were Lange and Vanatter. Fuhrman was the one, unfortunately, to find the glove.
Its kinda stupid that he was found innocent just because the gloves didn't fit his hands.
I've always thought that was sooo stupid. What happens to leather when you get it wet? It SHRINKS! DUH .
“Unlike the glove” holy fuck I’m cackling
I just found your channel this morning and I love it. You did a great job on this video. It was very well researched and you kept exactly the right tone with a little light humor (making fun of OJ) while showing empathy and compassion toward the victims. It was interesting to see how OJ's background influenced what he became and it was so sad to see how hard Nicole tried to save herself from abuse and still ended up tragically losing her life.
It's really unfortunate that Simpson's family didn't allow an autopsy after his death so they could confirm if he indeed had a CTE. I think that would have made his legacy not be so dark, kinda like with Aaron Hernandez. Of course there isn't an excuse for murder but CTE explains a lot. Simpson having a CTE explains why his first wife had such a difference experience than Nicole. Having one wife say he never touched me(whether that's true or not) and the other one is terrified due to the abuse is typically not a normal occurrence.
0:20 NOT THE GLOVE DUSTIN 💀
Thank you for the humor to make the pill easier to swallow and also thank you for putting this out there. It is information that needs to be heard.
Yes please, CTE isn't an excuse for OJ. He clearly had a history of being violent and believing he was somehow within his rights to use violence to get what he wanted. The CTE exacerbated it all, but it didn't transform his personality. I'm sure there are cases where the level of TBIs makes a person's perception of reality deteriorate to where otherwise peaceful individuals feel the need to hurt those closest to them, but OJ wasn't one of them. And I will fight anyone on that, I got my Master's in Clinical Psychology last year. I *toiled* for the ability to fight you on this, even.
My abusive psycho ex idolizes and adores oj.
He always "jokingly" said he'd do to me what oj did if I ever tried to leave. But "it was a joke."
I had to make a very thought out, and it just took a lot of planning and everything in order to leave.
I was always so scared he'd find out.
Just thinking about it brings up a lot of stuff for me. My heart starts racing and ya.
Anyways, sorry.
Late at night after he passed out. And he knew he was afraid I'd leave. He'd sleep with his body locked to mine. When he started doing that it made it harder.
But I was able to take my son and we ran away. We were homeless and couch surfing for over a year.
I let my id's expire, my tags, I wouldn't stay anywhere too long.
At 1 point, I even went back to my disowned abusive drug addict mom's house when he almost found us.
Motels, hotels, in areas I knew he wouldn't think of.
Anyways
Long after I left, during coco
He started seeing some woman(she did and said some evil stuff.) But anyways, he forced her to turn into me.
I used to make videos talking about it. But when they came after my son, I privated them.
My son was and is still upset with me that I did. But he was and is a kid. And ya.
There's a lot about my ex that's just ya.
And it's scary how spot on alot of that is.
But no, he wasn't a football player or had head damage. Or ya.
Your continual play with OJs name was entertainingly stellar. Thank you for your continued great content my fellow introvert!!
11:25 I've heard the call and I couldn't stop crying. After hearing it any doubt I had of his guilt was gone.
I disagree that later events (daughter drowning, wife divorcing him due to affair) had anything to do with it. Those foundations (jealousy, control) were much earlier in the game, and expressed by his gang participation - particularly the part where a weekend was not a weekend unless he beat up some other dude (who supposedly deserved it, but doubtful that was the case). Probably the fraternal abandonment/anger played into forming his anger issues, but not the later 'abandonment', that was him reacting in a way that way already patterned into his behaviour model. Yes, it was likely he had the brain injury from his football career, I think that is a given, and just exasperated what was in the foundation already.
I happened to notice that fleeting glance of Nicole's at the party/nightclub, where he (jokingly) took her drink and said he would be drinking it. She had the look of dread, like he was going to be impossible or a monster that night. Go replay that bit. Nicole knew what was coming later that night.
Charisma. Not a great attribute to be honest. The most deceitful (and sometimes violent) people are the most charismatic people ever. It's a mask, hiding their true selves. There seems an inverse formula, the more charismatic the person, the more to be wary of them. And domestic abusers are often regarded by everyone else as "the nicest guy". Big old 🚩
At the time this went down, we had CNN on cable. So watched the riots after Rodney King, watched the aftermath of Nicole and Ron's murder. Even at the time, when I had no deep understanding of DV situations, it was clear that he was guilty. Even watching the trial unfold, it was clear he was going to get off (King, his celebrity, lawyer dream team). I did not live in LA, but imagine it really would have kicked off big time if he had been found guilty, such was the racial tension in LA at the time. You had to 'be there' (in the time or location) to really understand the mood.
Just stepping back to the head injury stuff. Even with his first wife, apart from the beatings was the strangulation report. In DV risk assessment, that is 🚩🚩🚩 and means the abuser is high risk of killing someone (wife, kids, both, anyone else that happens to be around). This was long before any obvious effects of the TBI business. If I were to guess, OJ would rank high on the psychopathic scale. His inappropriate laughter at times is a huge tip off. He was definitely 'empty' inside.
Murder isn't a prediction or facial expression
The subject of domestic violence was introduced at trial, the photograph wasn't admitted
Any point of domestic violence is after the verdict
You would take Nicole Brown"s statements as the truth, only because of the murders
Not Nicole Browns side of the story
Statements are stricken from the record with physical evidence
Kamala Harris also laughs inappropriately
“If I’m out in the garden, you must pardon.” That’s it… you’ve done it- You caught me so off guard that I chocked my sip of water. Holy crap, the way I cackled in between gasping for air. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 😂😂😂😂
Loving your videos! 🎉 humorous and sensitive.
The names you’re calling him are killing me 😂😂😂
Hey. I was one of the people that was passionate at the time of the trial about OJ's innocence, (I was 21ish at the time) I want to say that you did a great job with explaining this. Like, OJ **WAS** squeaky clean, a smart, funny, good looking dude before the trial as far as we knew it as a general public. It REALLY effected the trial press and general sentiment. We've learned better in the years since. Hope he burns.
You presented this part especially well. You reminded me of what it felt like back then. Well done. Just wanted to say that, have a good one. :)
People excuse the behavior of powerful men all too often.
The look she gives him is chilling… 9:09
Absolutely
The pics you showed of the baby that passed away is Arnelle Simpson! .... Not Aaren Simpson. Arnelle is the surviving daughter that grew up & was there through the trials.
Yes. I have never seen a picture of Aaren. That’s arenelle
Small children drowning in backyard pools is very common. People really need to put better safeguards in place to protect their children. One of which being an alarm for the gate leading to the pool so that the parents can be alerted if the child opens the gate unattended.
Marguerite dodged the worst of it when Nicole became OJ's affair partner. Be careful what you wish for. You may think you are gaining someone's great marriage/life and instead you stole someone else's hell. 😞
I mean not only that OJ distance himself from a lot of black movements back in the 70’s when we had kareem, Brown, Ali, Russell, and many other Influential Black men and women trying to fight for civil rights. He off telling the press “I’m not black I’m O.J” he was LUCKY That Rodney king got beat up during the time he did the murder. Because we all knew he did it, it was just the fact that black folks wanted OJ to walk in spite of all the hardship we’ve gone through.
I've heard of authorities who wanted the old goat to walk. The authorities knew that if the old goat was put back in a cage, Marcia Clark and Chris Darden would be chased to the edge of the earth and injured worse than you could ever imagine. The authorities were afraid ghetto folks would burn, pillage, and gun down anyone who got in "their" way. Whenever the rioters get thick in number, the police get orders to get in their cars and drive as far away from the riots as possible.
Those people are disgusting. What if it was THEIR mom, sister or daughter who was brutally slain--throat slashed and abdomen disemboweled? Oh it was just a white woman and a white guy so no harm done.
Wow it's amazing that the fact that "folks" wanted him to walk doesn't clue you into where the majority of those "hardships" come from and continue to come from. Supporting someone's criminal behavior and normalizing violence to your children couldn't possibly have negative repercussions.
I couldn't wait until that damn trial was over. It's all anyone spoke of, even my 4th grade teacher. She would play the trial during class. She screamed at me and sent me to see the principal when I asked her as politely as I could to turn it off one day. She had it on when the verdict was read and I was the only one who wasn't elated. My bias was likely a factor (my mother is white and my father beat the hell out of her regularly), but whatever the reasons, I felt OJ was guilty from the beginning. Listening to people villify Nicole and speak of his psychotic ass like a hero made me sick. I don't know what became of that teacher, but to this day, I think it's absolutely disgusting that she enabled and encouraged us to watch one nanosecond of that trial. We were 9 and 10 years old.
Thank you for all you do to raise awareness about red flags in relationships. ❤
Excellent work, Dustin! This is a superb example of a fresh, approachable analysis to a tragic old story. I am so glad I follow your channel. You have a rare talent for combining humor and empathy with hard-slapping servings of truth. More power to you! Hope your YT channel subscriber count grows and matches your other social media accounts ASAP ❤
Got my alarm set for this one, Dustin! 🎉❤
Cya there!
"if im out in the garden you must pardon!" 😂 Subscriber earned!
You are absolutely one of my favorite youtubers! I LOVE your sense of humor and make me laugh every time. But in this video you also show that you are able to bring forward hard subjects to talk about, in a professional, interesting and "your stile" way. Very good!! 👏👏👏
As a true crime junkie, I love this video!! You could do a whole series of true crime red flags. You'd have endless material!
Fun fact. If you trace the origin of almost every gang in existence you will find that they started as a generally benevolent organization to help their communities. Source: my ex husband was in a gang in south central LA in the 90s. They had no problem with him leaving for college.
Thank you so very much for this video and for your channel in general. I was born in 1956 and throughout the 1960's my father battered and abused my mother and siblings and me. The police would come, stand around in the open garage of our house laughing and joking with my father and then leave. He was never arrested, even after giving my mother a black eye or a seriously damaged arm & shoulder. In my case, he hit me over the head with a broom handle so hard that he left a raised "goose egg" on the top of my head -- for absolutely no reason. No trip to the doctor much less the emergency room. Certainly no police called. Injuring his children was somehow his right as our father. These were terrible times for the vulnerable. In fact, marital rape, even if the spouses were separated for years and in divorce proceedings, was not illegal at the time. People raised by men like my father instantly recognized him in OJ Simpson after the murders. The narcissism, the arrogance, the smug self-confidence, the amusement at the horrific pain he caused to the families of his victims, the people rallying around and saying what a "great guy" he is despite all the mounds of evidence to the contrary. Anyone who claims that he is innocent is nothing more than a dupe and an enabler. I am so grateful that now, at 68, I am finally seeing more and more men of subsequent generations facing up to and calling out the men who committed this crimes in the past and today. Domestic violence is a scourge and must come to an end, once and for all, in the same way that we stopped the Atlantic slave trade, or emptied the interment camps in California after WWII, or liberated the ghettos and concentration camps of Europe. Horrifying abuse by hideously wrong people can be stopped if only we have the will to do so.
The fact that his hand still went into the glove says everything. He was able to put it on but said it was too small for his hand 😂 he only won the case because of conflict of interest
The "when I'm in the garden, you must pardon" line made me spit my wonderful Aldi sparkling water. By the way, if you haven't, watch OJ: Made in America.
Dustin I can’t put into words HOW impressed I am w/how u’ve managed to translate the ‘red flag’ shorts into long forum content…let alone to break it down SO eloquently & in a way that so desperately NEEDS to be HEARD…
Yes… we as woman can point out these signs & talk about it from our perspective *but* the hard truth remains, there’s a certain level of power that comes w/a man speaking about these types of things…
Those particular men who aren’t willing to listen to woman’s experiences… who have already shrugged them off as “there’s gotta be 2 sides of the story“
Most the time they’ve already decided they’re not going to listen to us…
But.. they *will* listen to you..
Another really good example of CTE contributing to violence is Chris Benoit..(was a huge wrestling fan growing up)… (he had alotta other contributing factors but drs said his brain looked like a 80yr old man w/ Alzheimer’s..
(He m*dered his wife & child & looked up resurrection in the Bible & googled “how to bring back loved ones from the dead” )
Aside from it being well known he had brain damage from constant work … he had JUST lost him best friend & was a wreck. It ROCKED his faith & belief system.. but WWE never gave him time off… they just kept pushing & pushing him..
Like u said… there are plenty of ppl who have CTE & don’t do horrible things but; that along w/other factors create this torrential down pour.. & while this is happening, these corporations (like WWE & NFL) are seeing the ramifications of what’s happening, but rather than giving a fk about the human… they see a piggy bank…everything else is collateral damage…
Fantastic video! & from the bottom of my heart, thank you! Would LOVE to see more of these ‘in hindsight’ videos🩵
I think you’re brilliant for this video topic. We’ve all heard the same stories a million times. But I appreciate this different angle :)
Love all the plays on his name! So funny! Thank you for the giggles lol
“Oreo Simon” I just love your channel, thank you for this video!
Sad proof that having money and power can let you get away with anything.
That jury was never going to convict him. Saw an interview of a juror and she made the comment about Rodney King and payback for that. No justice was served for Nicole or Ron.
It was a different time. I think it’s really hard for people who were too young to understand how much things have changed with criminal cases. That being said, Robert Durst was found not guilty and freely admitted to murdering, dismembering, and disposing of his neighbor in garbage bags so you never can tell what a jury will do.
@@Janjones7735 well I qualify for AARP . Different time? I'm guess I am not connecting your point. That jury pool was tainted. And Bob Durst is serving life.
I was 8 when this happened. I vaguely remember the car chase. I remember my teacher putting the verdict on in class, she polled us on what we thought it would be. Knowing nothing, I said not guilty.
I remember going to my dad's on the weekend , he said people at his work wanted to kill OJ. I had no idea why people were so upset.
I wish I didn't to this day.
I can't wait to see this!! I got my alarm set and this on in my background tab open there is no way that I am going to miss this!!
TW: CTE and mental health in sports
My late stepdad had CTE from playing college football. He ended up getting very paranoid and thinking there were people that were following him and he ended up going off the grid. About a year later my mother got a call that he had passed due to a cyst that had not been treated and ruptured, leaving my 5 year old sister fatherless.
Sooooo yeah I have a rough relationship with football culture. When I remember cases like this I know there’s a lot of other factors that go into why people make decisions, but I have a passionate hatred for the way that footballers and other contact sportsmen do not get adequate support or care.
If your an abused person.. You better have an exit strategy.... Do not count on help from police.... And if you drop charges, let them come back etc...police will stop taking you seriously..be careful out there,who you decide to stay with...
Family & domestic courts can be awful. Long lines, staffs who screw up records 📂 forms. I had a 2015 court case, domestic problem with a violent neighbor. The county court office screwed up the case numbers, files. The neighbor never showed up for any court hearings. 👨⚖️ ... the guy died ⚰️ in 2023.
It's not always easy to tell who is an abuser. My friend married a man who was prominent and well liked in her church. After marriage he showed his true colors as an abusive drunk who used her as a punching bag. Finally it was to the point he was trying to kill her and make it look like an accident. He ended up driving her car off a cliff with her in it leaving her for dead. Luckily she wasn't dead and the car was seen from the road. Three weeks in a coma and multiple broken bones resulting in a six month hospital stay. He was never charged but she filed for divorce. He was left with the hospital bill which was in seven figures.
did anyone else see the look on her face when he said there she is that's my woman
Doesnt mean anything. She hit him up for money, stayed just a mile away from him when she had the means to move farther away, and she even worte him a letter wanting ro reconcile after the divorce
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Such were the effects of his pathetic and frequently criminal attempts to control her. He was a murderer who couldn't take "no" for an answer.
19:20 silly funny reminder! its not "charisma," lets call it what it is. Manipulation. He manipulated millions of people even if indirectly, he changed the way people viewed him by carefully crafting his image in a positive way. (No offense is meant by this comment btw, i just wanted to add my own perspective. great video, my dude!)
This was interesting to watch and I would like to see more content like this one. Definitely handled this topic with grace and was also something engaging to watch. Great job!
That was so good. Thank you, I didn't know that
whole story, and I loved that you named him all kinds of different things through out your video. Very good. Hope you get lots of views
Appreciate you!!
@@DustinPoynterVideos You are very good! 🙂
Big fan of your videos since finding your channel recently! One suggestion would be jn the sound editing, the volume tends to be much higher when yourw outside which is kind of jarring but otherwise definitely keep up the good work!
16:47 Exactly. Doesn't excuse anything. This is a sick man, with possible brain injuries. But he was sick long before his first brain injury
Trying to fit those gloves on like OJ did in court was foul lmao.
About the case tho, I do think it's wild that there's been so many people that genuinenly think he didn't do it. I only recently actually watched a documentary about the case and I had assumed that was going to be more obscure than what it really was. He definitely did it.