This $20K Three-Day Bootcamp Heals Trauma 🚩
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The MDK Project has been famously demonized by penguinz0 and so many content creators at this point, but most have overlooked the 3-day course's most red flag worthy flaw: they sell it on the idea that it heals trauma. MDK Project founder Bedros Keuilian has said it's because most men don't want to talk about their trauma, but it's most likely due to the fact that they don't have a single mental health professional overseeing the course.
Today, we step into the insanity of the alpha male movement's most alarming ideology yet. You will witness verbal threats, screaming, being buried alive, nearly suffocating, excruciating physical exercises, withholding sleep, limiting water intake, and even some being unalived.
A special thank you to psychotherapist Tom Stevens for his professional input on this video. Please check out his TH-cam channel @ReactionTherapyOfficial
This video was edited by @StephenMakesVideos
Video Timestamps:
0:00 MDK Project Introduction
3:25 The Course's Biggest Red Flag
4:21 The Verbal Abuse
10:44 Being Buried Alive
12:02 The Alleged Unalivement
13:38 3AM Bear Crawls
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Amazing job Dustin! Appreciate you having me on and shedding light on the dangers of programs like this when it comes to to healing trauma! “Mental Health Matters”🙏
Fantastic conversation and I really appreciate you contributing!! Definitely would love to have you weigh in on another mental health topic that I tackle in the future. Thanks so much Tom!
Mental health is very important
“I’ll give you something to cry about” vibes. Trying to out trauma the trauma with new trauma
That’s what I was thinking. This isn’t going to heal trauma. It’s going to cause more trauma.
If my spouse wants to get yelled, screamed, emasculated, go through physical hell, and tons of abusive BS. I can do that to them for free and a cattle prod in one hand. $20K for that is ridiculous.
@@littlecake453 I bet sarcasm just "whooshes" over your head on a daily basis.
@@WildKat25 yeah, that was stupid from my side.
@littlecake453 It's okay. Everyone takes a comment a little too seriously sometimes. But no, I would sooner get my husband help or divorce him than do what these stupid alpha camps do. I was just more pointing out that 20K for abuse is ridiculous.
Kinky...
The moment I saw there were two Marines involved, 😅 "Aw jeez what are the odds that they're not addressing their own PTSD correctly and taking it out on other people?" ...
Well dang, they've made a career out of reliving their trauma. That's entrepreneurship and a half. They're setting those other fellas back about five years in their efforts in healing but at least they're all ahead in the bank... those toxic walking red flags.
To those who got out and actually are working on your shit, I salute you.
This is so scary! I wonder how it’s legal to advertise it as a mental health service (healing trauma boot camp) without having any mental health training or licensing?
From everything I have seen, they have zero mention of the course healing trauma on their website, and they very rarely mention it on their social media channels. Their founder did a podcast interview and released a clip from it where he he alluded to the "real reason" for creating the course was to help men heal from trauma with journaling. He also alluded to kind of keeping that portion of the course secret because, in his words, "you're never going to get a bunch of men to talk about their trauma." In my opinion, they keep it mostly secret to do the best they can to avoid legal repercussions.
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Isn't it though?, it's not helping these men it's making them more vulnerable to themselves and dangerous for others to be around.
Not a fan of generalizing, but gna do it anyway. Military men are the LAST people to seek out when learning to heal. Marines and army infantry specifically are integrated into a "don't think, just do" mentality and lifestyle. It makes it easier to do their jobs if they're more animalistic. They preach "adapt and overcome", but never actually learn to adapt into regular society.
It's all in how you word the product you are pushing. Phrase it right and you can easily fly under the radar.
This is in no way healing…I’m a therapist focusing on Trauma and PTSD, specifically as a result of relationship abuse. Would love the opportunity to weigh in a bit here.
At the risk of sounding flippant or cavalier, nobody who actually went through basic training would pay 20K to go through an abbreviated version of it that seemed only to focus on the worst parts. I spent 8 years in and hot take is that basic is a necessary evil, like a test you endure to make it to actual service. The vets involved have either bought their own bs or it's a cynical and dangerous con. Spending that much on a 3 day macho fantasy camp would actually cause me PTSD.
My understanding is the military is moving away from the "break them down so you can build them up" model and focusing more on "help your fellow soldier be their best so we are all best". And hazing has never been a part of boot camp ever, but there are some real toxic instructors who take it too far.
For me I see these instructors as marine red flags that couldn't transition to civilian life afterwards because of what they went through. As toxic as it was the marines gave them an identity and they cling to it because they don't know how to become anything else.
@@elizabethwhitman7846 I went to army basic training in 2012. It’s a careful balancing act. Basic had a method to its madness that some people got and some people didn’t. It was meant to simulate combat stress and chaos and so you learn to make a rapid decision under chaotic stress, while also acting selflessly and learning to work as a team, and not freezing under stress or questioning things when immediate action needed to happen.
The first 3-4 weeks were the worst because that’s when the most “smoking (slang for physical exercise) for no reason” and collective punishment smoke sessions happens bc someone screwed something up or forgot a weapon. known as Red Phase. Then you transition to White phase and then Blue Phase, where you learn more technical things, the drill sergeants start easing up, and collective corrective training starts goes away in favor of holding someone individually responsible for a misguided action.
That’s the general set up anyway, every company and cycle was different, some were harsher than others, others cushy, some never made it out of red phase. All of this could be very different by now as it’s been 12 years since I did the training
This training camp just looks like how much abuse can you take as an individual to prove how tough you are, which wildly misses the point of basic training in the first place
This is abuse, plain and simple. And what's sad is will these men go home to their sons and treat them like this in order to "make them into men?" That's kind of terrifying. When you go into the military (especially the Marines) there's a saying that they break you down to build you up. They have to in order to train them to be prepared for warfare. Now, not everyone will end up on the battlefield, but they still have to be prepared for it. My oldest son is a Captain in the Marine Corps and OCS and TBS were hell. But it wasn't "abusive." It was necessary training for what they might at some point have to deal with.
They will definitely come home and be even more abusive to their family
the body doesnt differentiate between training and abuse, its all the same, the body doenst care or understand "necessary abuse" its just abuse. and the body will remember. breaking people doenst make them stronger. it just makes them easier to use/control to those who break them. it all will come back one way or another. you cant make machines out of people it never works there are always consequences for mistreating people regardeless of what the intention or agenda is.
@@rene3759 The body keeps the score.
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Soldier here. It’s kinda the weird way it’s split. The training is necessary to survive inhuman situations, because war is inhuman and horrible. You get a lot of positives: lifelong friendship, discipline, being able to make clear decisions under stress, being great in a crisis moment (I saved my friends life when she had a medical emergency and got her to a safe location when others in the group froze or waffled on what to do. I took charge and gave directions etc).
But the training has its costs to the mind over time. Eventually, you get tired. Your heart isn’t in it anymore, that’s when you know it’s time to move on from the military as a whole, and start slowing down and healing.
And what ARE they going to be dealing with? Who will they be fighting? Is it just? Where does the motivation come from to fight wars of oppression and how is that different from the motivation for fighting against oppression?
As someone training in mental health this makes me wanna sob. Why aren't authorities closing this down its basically just paying to be abused.
Irresponsible does not even begin to describe this nonsense.
One of my biggest concerns about this is lack of evidence. Real therapy is based on years and years of peer reviewed research. These people no only have no training but they have zero proof it’s helpful
This is as "therapeutically healing" as someone who burned their hand on the stove setting themselves on fire as "treatment".
Damn right you wont give a shit about your hand anymore, your entire body is covered in burns now. What hand?
My husband was in the Army (long ago), he was paid. He would never pay for anything like this. He's seen small clips if this bs, rolls his eyes, and scrolls on.
They're basically fixing trauma with trauma. But they don't actually fix it, just add another one in the pile.
Old man is stuck in the past. As a drill sergeant 10 years ago, my husband was no longer allowed to curse in a soldier's face. Yell, yes, not cursing. As a basic training soldier 20 years ago my drill sergeants were able to get their points across without spewing profanities. Also, there are so many other curse words, come up with something new already. Broken record.
I remember people complaining when news got out that drill sergeants would not be allowed to curse at soldiers because it meant the military had gone soft. My first thought was that the military finally took the training wheels off, now the drill sergeants get to be creative.
Thank you! I went through basic training in 2022. It was one of the hardest experiences of my life. We got smoked plenty. No one needed to call us name. It was challenging enough. Having a lack of empathy or sympathy doesn’t make someone “tough.” I would say it makes you a weak leader, not a strong one.
Wow, that’s re-traumatizing people. 😳 crazy
People with depression/anxiety/childhood trauma/ptsd or c-ptsd/phobias and many other mental health issues are ALREADY more likely to have issues with sleeping; Whether that it is sleeping "too much" or struggling to get enough sleep and/or struggling with poor sleep quality.
The last thing these people need is to be deprived of sleep, water and the ability to rest or take a break, while being put in situations that cause hyperventilating and panic attacks, which just retraumatise people.
This is nothing short of abuse of vulnerable people
This, for once, we'd say is worse than Springbrook.
Springbrook Behavioral Health was where we were sent by our father and stepmom after we attempted 4 times in a 24 hour period. It's in Travelers Rest, SC. They did this "to fix you" and they said we were lying and manipulative when we didn't want to participate in therapy.
Here's what we went through (🍻 specifically exists because everyone else couldn't handle it and went dormant. 🍻 was the sole host and member for those months, and it still affects him to this day):
-Allowing another patient to s3xually assault us and writing the infraction as "consensual" so we couldn't file legal (it looked like we were going back on our own words in our record, that we were "one of those me too women," so we would never win, especially in South Carolina. We've given up due to that, and actually forgave the patient, since we know he wasn't being treated properly either and is also probably dead by now, given that he was on such a high prescription for his ASPD that he was already experiencing early renal failure and Springbrook's lead psychiatrist, Dr. Fisher, apparently straight up told him he probably wouldn't survive more than 2 years at that rate, while also saying in the same breath that he HAD to take that amount for the rest of his life to manage his diagnosis. He was 16. If that expiration date was accurate, he would have died back in 2019, so either rest in peace or rest in pieces, take your pick.)
-Left us in the shower from 8 pm to roughly 3 am (our therapist put a "soap check" order because our father said "we always smell and she won't shower properly." After we left the shower on our own twice due to being forgotten, and the $7.50 an hour staff forgot to write down that they completed soap check on our paperwork a few times when we DID get checked, she said if we ever left without soap check again, she would take away our "pencil privileges" for the rest of our stay. "Pencil privileges" was the ability to talk to other kids, the ability to sit anywhere in the room, to write or draw, or call family, which we stopped doing anyway after our abusive stepmother was made our only accessible number and we were banned from talking to our grandparents or mother. The time we actually got them revoked, for two hours [originally one, another hour was added by our therapist for what we are about to say] we tried to pick up a pencil and the staff came up and SNAPPED THE PENCIL IN HALF so we couldn't use it. Needless to say, we got forgotten again, and ended up trying to sleep in the warm shower since it was warmer than the cheesecloth we had to sleep with, anyway. After many hours, we finally realized we couldn't sleep on the linoleum, and we knocked out the bathroom door. Third shift came in and asked WHY WE WERE BACK IN THE SHOWER after making MANY 15-minute checks on our room, and we told them we had never gotten out. They asked when we got in, we said we got in when second shift was telling us all to take a shower. Second shift leaves at 10 pm. 3rd shift made us put soap on again, we did the soap check, we got out and fell asleep hearing the disbelief in the hallway that 2nd shift left us in the bathroom and we weren't discovered until 3 in the fucking morning. Our therapist never apologized for her response, but she did remove the check from the paperwork and told us "I guess you were right.")
-Consistent health hazard (the building was moldy, you could see the sky through the roof in some parts. There was black mold on some of the beds that was never taken care of until 👾 freaked out since we have asthma, and the showers' assist bars from when the place was a shell-shock clinic were constantly filled with a moldy soup. Also, the "4-star kitchen" they advertise on their website is actually only a 4-star CHEF that only comes in twice a month, and no one was wearing gloves or hairnets until everyone got foodborne illness from undercooked cafeteria-pan chicken enchilada. Apparently the building had already received several health code violations, but it was only THEN when they were on their last strike that they started wearing PPE.)
-blood draws every 3 days, in the middle of the night, and we were made fun of for "being a baby" and threatened with being strapped to the desk (we learned "vagaling" from the nurses telling us we were literally shitting ourselves from fear and laughing about it. Vagal reflex is basically when your blood pressure rapidly drops so you can actually #2 properly. When you feel like your face is losing feeling while going #2, that's vagal, since the lack of blood pressure will visibly make your face pale. Eventually we struck a deal with a male nurse to use the fact that we tend to sleep talk REALLY WELL so he could ask while we were asleep for consent, and answering machine will always automatically say "yes" if it means we are left alone to sleep. Even asking answering machine "are you awake" will get a yes, and we don't remember jack. No idea how many more draws they took, but at least we weren't there for it. 😅)
-Gave us a TB bubble test TWICE in a month (both were negative, but we've been told it should have only been done once since a negative result would mean we were clear and there wouldn't be an immediate risk of infection. Apparently, they needed to test us twice when that shouldn't be necessary, literally giving us the second bubble as soon as the first test disappeared.)
-Diagnosed us as BPD and OCD when that was clearly incorrect, never letting us speak (we have OCD, but Dr. Fisher said we had OCD about "impulsively rebelling against your parents." That's not OCD, dumbass, that's ODD. He also diagnosed our behavior as BPD, saying we were faking our headspace and dissociating to escape responsibilities, and ABUSING OUR PARENTS as a form of retaliation, so he put us on Luvox. Luvox basically destroyed the ability for 🍻 to dissociate, or for 👾 or anyone else to come back front from dormancy to help relieve duty. He had to take every second of it instead of being able to escape when left alone.)
-Repeatedly physically abusing us (our therapist SAT ON US AND LOCKED THE DOOR since we wouldn't admit we were "abusive and manipulative," and admit that "your parents are the best." The same parents who would strap us to a table to force us to eat when we were 6, and then when our 4 year old sister continued to refuse, forcing her to eat carrot baby food while calling her a baby and asking "doesn't it taste good, baby?" She did not get off of us or unlock the office until we said that we were abusive and that our parents are always right, word for word. Staff also would grab us, and they also bet on the patients' fights. Apparently I [🍻] was a "floppy fish" in the betting ranks because I couldn't fight well, basically getting into slap fights or being instantly pummeled while other kids were punching and choking each other out.)
-Destroyed our belongings (our Christmas gift of a shirt was torn in half because it had a hoodie string and it was sewn in at the top, and they literally just tried to rip it out. It was never replaced. We also had an expensive bottle of Fresh Cream Philosophy from our grandmother, so we'd have a good soap, and they let a patient from the "low-functioning" wing spill it and play with it until there was basically only 10% of it left in the bottle when it was originally almost untouched. This was also never replaced. They also stole our notebook several times and removed pages from it, which we never got back since they were given to our parents, who put it in the big garbage bag of evidence they have to prove that we're "fucking insane and a sociopath.")
ALL OF THIS, and the fact that they also nearly killed a patient (if you look up Chestnut Hill Behavioral or Springbrook Behavioral, which is just the same facility with a new name, there's many horrible reviews, but one parent said that Springbrook discharged their 12 year old child and refused to respond, even threatening legal action, after they left him in the ER dehydrated/malnourished, to the point the parent could SEE HIS HEART BEATING IN HIS CHEST, and nearly fatally OD'd on Wellbutrin, after the parents had DECLINED consent to give Wellbutrin.)
ALL OF THAT, and this is worse.
You don't get to sleep, when we were at least forced to with drugs to sleep from 9 pm to 7 am, and at least we got SOME food.
Sure, we eventually were so desperate for carbs or fat that we all started to add two butter packets and two sugar packets in our morning oatmeal (we were on a protein diet, since "carbs and fat worsen autism" and "make us hyperactive." We also were banned from any caffeine. Needless to say, they did fix the "hyperactive behavior," because we were all lethargic and hungry constantly, even stealing things like the gram cracker packs from the nurse cart or frosting bags from making cookies at Christmas. We *may* have done the latter, as well, and ate it all over three nights before going to bed... 😅) but at least we got food and water.
Like, holy shit, they didn't ban us from electrolytes when we exercised.
So, props to you, MLK. You officially beat a rundown, moldy building with abusive staff and the healing capacity of a pack of cigarettes. cPTSD is our specialty from childhood, and we were destroyed by Springbrook, but at least we didn't fucking die.
-🍻/👾/👥
The military training is for war. Not for normal life. They basically increased these individuals trauma and if they didn’t have ptsd before they do when they finish this camp. Boot camp belongs in military not every day life. The military is training for war. Not for business and family matters. These men are gonna snap and hurt someone or themselves.
Isn't this literally part of the problem with a lot of police departments too? They get military-type training when the subburbs or inner city....aren't a war zone. Even the really bad places (in the U.S. at least) are a far cry from a war zone, which creates a lot of problems when they try normal life as if it was a militaristic threat
Alternate name for this course: "Military Bros Mistaking Bootcamp for Therapy."
I also want to say that these men will probably suffer more mentally after the “course” because they will realize that they spent $20k+ and their trauma was not fixed only amplified. 😕
I am absolutely THRILLED that you are making long form videos now! Your shorts are funny and entertaining, but this is the best of both worlds, entertaining and informative, and I'm here for it ❤
Thank you so much! Already have the next one in the works!
@@DustinPoynterVideosomg do one on the camps where parents have their wayward teens kidnapped and sent to bootcamps like these! They're even worse than these but the kids are there involuntarily and indefinitely and the PARENTS send them there. Absolutely horrifying. (Ps I'm also thrilled you're doing this! Great work!!)
This "program" has set the progress of mental health back a few hundred years. These assholes are completely reinforcing the stigma we, as a society, have been desperately trying to eradicate for years! Not to mention the massive individual damage being inflicted onto these poor souls. Excellent presentation, Dustin. Well done, my friend! ❤❤❤❤❤
I have c-ptsd and this would trigger me so badly that I'd be in a fight reflex that leads to violence. I've been triggered like that before and it's horrible.
The disassociation and the come down are enough to add more trauma
What's cptsd
@itsdamoon compound or complex ptsd. Essentially irs caused by multiple traumatic experiences overlapping either in the event or aftermath. So you might be recovering from assault and be in a trauma response when suddenly you are in a severe car accident. Ir compounds the trauma and the responses.
For me I was emotionally, mentally, physically, and sexually abused throughout my child and teen years by a number of people with different methods of abusing. This has created a complex web of reactions to trauma because each situation called for different survival needs
They're training people the way they were trained so they can get "their turn" being in charge of the abuse. Prior service combat vet here, and i got angry watching this, because my first thought was,"Do you want a knife in your neck, because this is how you get a knife in your neck!" These fellas think their military service makes them mental health pros like college graduates think their certificates make them all-knowing. How does ANYONE, anywhere at any time benefit positively from being yelled at, degraded, and threatened? Never. And they charge $20k for this!? Robbery in the highest degree! Talk about false advertisement! I'm not one to immediately say "toxic masculinity" because we need tough, rugged, strong willed men in the world, but at the same time, there's a line that crosses from leader to abuser, and they've left that line way in the dust long ago. Their "healing" is nothing more than them putting the physical and mental hurt on others, in order to make themselves feel more like the definition of "man" they didn't attain themselves from those who trained them in this same way. They're big, tough men who are acting like children, yelling as a means to do everything.
I really like how you articulated need for men but the line of leader and abuser was left in the dust
Yes
That's the psychology equivalent of essential oils and homeopathy.
Oh it is considerably worse. In that analogy this is the psychology equivalent of those turn of the century radium tonics.
You talking about how trauma responses arent inherently "wrong" reminds me of a reponse i gave to someone a couple weeks ago.
We were having a discussion (in an academic setting) on how to help a hypothetical person in a complicated situation in terms of housing, healthcare, hygiene, etc.
One person said "We should evaluate for their mental capacity because any normally logical person would just do X".
I pointed out that there was a potentially abusive situation and therefore """normal"" "logic" isnt applicable. Because abuse isnt normal, and therefore our reactions dont follow "normal logic". Logic in an abusive situation is entirely different, because the goal is to avoid abuse, and as you said, survive. So logic derived from those circumstances works in those circumstances, but fails and becomes ""illogical"" in non-abusive situations
YES. THIS. Trauma responses should never be mocked or belittled. They served a purpose at one point in our lives and our nervous system is still operating under those survival tactics. This is exactly why an actual therapist or even a team of therapists needs to oversee this bootcamp, because people like these instructors don’t know this information and even if they did, they wouldn’t know how to navigate it with a student.
Horrendous, that's psychological warfare what they're doing to these men.
It makes me think about something a friend told me where they do something similar in Mormon camping trips. The kids go through a rigorous multi-day hike with limited supplies, leaving them in a mentally compromised state by the end as a result. And then once the kids reach the end they're given food and water while teaching their ways, making them more susceptible to just accept without question. (My friend articulates the science/psychology behind it better than I can recall, but it's basically that)
I had nightmares from basic training for 25 years. The idea of going through it all again for nothing is terrifying. This looks like the kind of thing they send queer kids to try and make them “normal “
Like conversion “therapy”? I guess conversion therapy is much worse😢
Because when I think of mentally stable men that I want to help other men through their ptsd journey, I think military.... just wow. Love that you're on TH-cam now!
This is so, so bad for everyone involved: the guys who are clearly trying to deal with trauma in their lives, the environment they are coming back to (family, friends, colleagues, pets) and the future they are shaping for those they are guiding (for example their kids).
Your production quality and content is great. It's insane you don't have a bigger youtube following.
Thank you so much!! I'm just starting out on here with long videos, really. We'll see if it picks up
You bringing all the receipts makes this an amazing video. Your humor and humanity from shorter videos and education makes this video *chef’s kiss*.
Allegedly, the dead person was named Richard "Ricky" Spoon, from New York. Wife named Kaitlin, and child due October 2020. Obits posted in April of that year. He was a member of IBEW 97.
That's insane! Save your money and just go to Chicago or DC in the middle of the night
Thank god this wasn’t sponsored by BetterHelp. That’s a green flag in itself
Ma’mm 😂😂😂
Years ago, I almost got decked by a couple having a shouting match in a grocery store. Every other word was "f**k." It seemed to be the ONLY swear word they knew. Of the wealth of words in English to insult someone, "f**k" was it. I started giggling, and they turned in unison to stare me down. I backed away.
These guys are just like that couple. Of all the tv, movies, books they've seen, "f**k" is it. No imagination, no steals. Just endless, mind numbing abuse. This organization deserves to be sued for crimes against the English language.
And aren't there laws about "pratcicing medicine without a license"?
This isn't therapy, it's sadism.
They inflicting trauma to heal trauma?! Ye gods! I feel traumatised just thinking of it!
This should be illegal.
I practice yoga. I've been told in many classes that the issues are in the tissues. Meaning that we need to stretch and exercise to move the emotion out of our bodies.
Another thing I learned from my yoga teachers is a psychological technique of changing how you feel in the moment. Do you identify how you feel with three words or less and then you find positive words that are the opposite of those feelings. Now you make a mantra of those three words and you say it to yourself over and over again. For example if I felt frightened, alone and lost. I always tell myself that I am safe, protected and loved. After 5 minutes of repeating that, I feel a whole lot better in my soul.
I know this is a very serious subject, but Beakback Mountain is hilarious.
How is needing electrolytes non-manly?
I literally started a panic attack like… 4 minutes in
I knew about what MDK was when I found out that a Survivor contestant named Joe Anglim went through it. He's the guy in the thumbnail being threatened with a knife.
at 6:06 i can clearly see this guys entire body get stiff and the way he’s so tense
"Beatings will continue until morale improves."
LOVE seeing @reactiontherapy on with you! ❤
BT-dubs (yes, it's 2004 in my mind) I was a volunteer service dog trainer with an org who provided service dogs for veterans with PTSD. It was one of the most profound experiences of my life to witness the benefit. Just being in the presence of dogs helps, but when you train a dog to identify and predict a trauma response, and then train a specific behavior that mitigates the trauma, it's better than drugs or psychotherapy. Dogs have incredibly high emotional intelligence--more so than humans. I stopped working with this particular organization for two reasons: 1. They refused to train shelter dogs for this function and would only train pure bred-dogs that were donated-- which left too many vets on waiting lists. And 2. They were MAGA right-wingers. It's my dream to start a rescue dog service training program for trauma.
I think shelter dogs can be good ESAs but everything I know about service dogs suggests that a good breeding program is the best practice for both dogs and humans. The support dog training program near me breeds their own dogs and raises them on site and later housed with volunteers from birth. They're breeding for temperament, intelligence, low prey drive, etc. I agree that many shelter dogs can be emotional support animals. But it's very unlikely to get a shelter dog who is as well suited to the continual hard work of a service animal as a dog bred for it. You might get lucky, and a dog might have a specific ability or skill that aligns with the need. But it's too much of a risky crapshoot to be sustainable to train shelter dogs like that.
If you find one lmk
Thanks for raising awareness about this, Dustin ❤
Been waiting for this upload!🎉 Much love to you and yours, Dustin!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Absolutely love your content. So ready to follow you here after whats been going on on FB. I wish creators like you existed years ago when I was going through 2 abusive relationships without even realizing it, but I’m thankful people like you are putting this out into the world now so my daughters can grow up exposed to your message online as well as by us at home.
1. google what NOT to do
2. do them all anyways
3. alpha male podcast
4. profit
the recipe for success on the modern day internet!! 💰 🚩
for something that's meant to help you heal from trauma you will leave with even evermore traumatised than you were going in 🤦🏿
Absolutely appreciate the long-form content! As much as the shorter red flag reactions amuse me, they don't always address the root of the problems being presented.
There are a ton of people out there who could benefit from videos like this one, or any video you might do that expands on an issue and explains why the content is harmful. It's helpful because, at least from my own neurodivergent perspective, if I'm being told to raise my expectations, approach a problem differently, end a relationship, etc., I need to understand exactly why before I consider that advice.
Especially in the context of relationships. There are a lot of red flags that many people (including me) will often overlook, or find ways to justify to themselves, because despite a partner's problematic behaviour you often still love them and want to think the best of them.
If I had posted a video talking about my physically and verbally abusive ex while we were together and you were tagged and responded with a red flag reaction, I would have just told myself something like, "this guy just doesn't understand our dynamic. He doesn't see how much we truly love each other. Afterall, no relationship is perfect".
Or course now, several years after the fact, I can look back absolutely appalled at the way this person treated me and realize that if they treated this way, they clearly did NOT love me.
I think if someone had truly taken the time to explain a few things to me back then though, like for example what narcissistic abuse is and what tactics narcissists use to control empathetic people, I might have been more receptive to that brand of advice than I was to my friends just being like, "MAN BAD! LEAVE BAD MAN!".
They were right of course, man was bad, and I should have left a lot sooner, but I didn't fully understand until much later. Not until an amazing friend, who sadly has since passed away (RIP Katie), dragged me out of the place I shared with this man kicking and screaming, drove me from Alberta where I had moved to with this guy back to my home province of BC (Canada), and offered me a place to stay while I reflected on things and got back on my feet. After that act of kindness and adequate time to really examine the behaviour of my former partner, it was obvious to me (finally) that I had been seriously abused.
For an intelligent person I felt pretty stupid, but after some time I stopped blaming myself, and instead appropriately blamed the master manipulator/predator that is one GIANT walking red flag.
I think you have the power to do what Katie did for me, all from behind a computer screen. You spread a crucial kind of awareness. That kind of awareness can save people from toxic/abusive situations. You can literally rescue people, using just your knowledge, charisma, approachability, empathy, sense of humour, some giant pieces of brightly colored fabric, and of course the enormous amount of effort it must require to produce content of this quality.
Lol, no pressure. Just telling you to go save the world or whatever. But only because you've already demonstrated that you know how to, you have what it takes to do it, and you're willing to put in serious time to help educate people.
Thank you for everything you've done and will do.
PS: I know this comment focused more on the red flag stuff, but your green flag videos are also powerful in their own way. Not only does wholesome content like that brighten people's lives, it also empowers people to make positive choices. By highlighting good behaviour so it can be recognized and repeated, and illustrating how good behaviour is deserving of being celebrated (and is thus its own reward) you motivate people to be better. Green flag for that, fella!
I wish I could say I cannot believe this exists, but I definitely am not shocked that things like this exist. It is so awful that people go through this.
Joe Rogaine 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The best😁😆
This is so dangerous for them to be doing. Imagine what the ultra traumatizing can do to these already traumatized folks. I understand it will add to the PTSD that's already there, but I feel like it can trigger someone to continue self harming if that is something they do, or trigger someone to start self harming to deal with the trauma they cause these poor guys, and the worst: self - deletion. Ugh this needs to be shut down ASAP. These men are making things worse, not better. Again, it's so dangerous. How is this not shut down yet?!
So what I want to know is how do we get them closed down? Possibly arrested? This was a great video, I love what you are doing! As awful as this is, your content has so much positivity and hope I absolutely LOVE IT! Thank you!
Love the new content! Rooting for ya!
Keep doing this content. You're awesome!
This is insane. These people need real help not these grifters.
How hasn't this place been shut down?😧
I’m all for expressing masculinity in how you feel is best. I believe that it is self-defined. But I also believe there are better ways to work on your mental health then subjecting yourself to this torture
Isn't there any law in the US against that?
There probably will be lawsuits or divorces and then lawsuits and such in a few years or year (please let it be months) and that’s where they might get slapped down.
Anyway, I feel like this business should be shut down regardless…it’s being sold as a mental health care service, and it’s not.
If you want to play army, you can spend $200 on Milsim West to get the actual "infantry experience." It's a lot more fun than getting sorayed with a hose by bro vets in a pakring lot
What really pisses me off is these guys are former military, so they think they know what it takes to train men to become “real men.” However, the military has structure. I went through basic training. I know what it’s like. We still got yelled at, we still got “smoked,” people still had breakdowns. But you know what? Our instructors were there to pick us up and support us through all the stress and conditioning. It’s not supposed to be traumatic, and constant verbal abuse like in the movies serves no purpose. I think all these former military dudes running the program are the worst types who slip through the cracks. The power tripping assholes who think bullying other people helps them and if they can’t take it, they’re weak and not worth anyone’s time. What a backwards mentality.
hi! i love your content, didnt know you made videos that arent based on reddit posts! this is great (both is good)
Dustin, you are a credit to humanity. Thanks for pointing out the red flags, but even more important thank you for waving the green flag. It is important to celebrate the good guys. There are a lot of good guys out there. They deserve to know they are seen and appreciated
Good video let’s goooo Steven
Girl this should be called giving trauma bootcamp
My heart genuinely started racing during the buried alive part. I have pretty bad claustrophobia and have a fear of being buried alive so I immediately felt for that guy 🥺😭
How much PTSD is thing gonna cause ?
yes
Dustin, more like this!
you got it!
Every time i hear “MDK Project”, AngryCops just pops into my head going “Murder Death Kill”
1:14 He is showing his gun like it’s his dog or smth lmaooo
If i can get trauma regarding something I was alone during, you can easily get traumatized among other people.
They also market it as business development 😂
I have cptsd, and just watching this is triggering the fk out of me 😐how is this legal?
... So like it's fixing trauma with trauma? Wtf?
So when the first lawsuit happens after someone 💀... They're scamming these guys out of their money and I'm sure it's not helping. Sad.
At first I was like "Oh, a bootcamp for traumatized people. That could work kind of like exposure therapy I guess." And then I saw the tagline and realized that was most assuredly not the case.
Does anyone else thinks that it is ironic to have combat veterans who have first hand experience with trauma ,PTSD and what is needed to overcome it doing such a lousy job at helping others?
Ironic, but more because this are obviously combat veterans who are likely traumatized with PTSD who HAVEN'T overcome it, trying to teach others to do what they haven't. Also the military is notoriously bad about recognizing/discussing mental health issues, not not really a surprise
there’s a ton of irony in this one 😅
The first 1:15 minutes made me laugh so hard, and then the horrible facts. Thanks for exposing this sh!t
Is that guy really holding a live blade to that guy in the photo?
Yes. I wish I was making that photo up but it’s 100% real. They later deleted the photo off of their socials because it received so much negative backlash.
the pug noises did it for me
You give me Jeff Buckley vibes! I love your wholesomeness
Like other people said in the comments, just parroting what they're saying, but those coaches are preying on the insecurity of these poor men and getting off of the abuse they can get away with
I like this dude, gonna subcribe - hope it helps =)
Thank you!!!
Okay, I'm just a humble film nut with a mental illness and a passion for writing, but being buried alive is a surprisingly common plot device in media specifically intended to GIVE CHARACTERS TRAUMA. In good fiction, it's not handled lightly and has long-lasting, serious consequences. The idea that burying people alive in real life would somehow heal trauma is laughably absurd at best and downright disturbing at worst
Is it just me...or does the 1st guy getting yelled at look like Cory Williams??
Just wondering, does your therapist ask for pronouns before sessions? Because I’ve seen commercials with them listing their pronouns and immediately I get all the information I need to know.
Yes he does. Judging by your phrasing I can’t tell if you have an issue with pronouns or not lol
Yikes
Now that you're not puttering around and somersaulting and I can get a good look at your face, I can say you're quite handsome.
Not also great and quick-witted with similes, but also good-looking and positive. GGs, brother
The whole thing is giving cult vibes.
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
for the algo
This would cause trauma, not fix it. Just the thumbnail triggers me.
This "bootcamp" is just childhood trauma for adults. Most Gen Xers got this treatment for free. 😂
This channel is weird.