2024 Subaru Impreza 2.5RS is BACK - World Premiere First Look
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ค. 2024
- We get our hands on the new 2024 Subaru Impreza RS to check out all the features in this world premiere preview.
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CONTENTS
00:00 - Introduction
00:29 - The Original 2.5RS History
01:37 - 2024 Impreza RS Features
04:04 - Trunk Layout
04:43 - Back Seat
05:18 - Driver's Seat
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2.5RS would have been nice with a 6 speed stick from current gen Crosstrek... close to WRX wagon we've been after, just a bit down on power.
No clutch, no sale.
The current impreza 5 speed is a million and one times better then the crosstreks 6 speed. The 6 is geared horribly. The 5 is wayyyy smoother and a lot more fun to drive because its not as annoying
CVT = cunt vehicle trim = girls car
5speed is more aggressive and quick, actually
@@fidgetspinner5886 the 5 is just geared better all around. Officially its 1 second faster in the 0-60 time and it gets 1 maybe 2 mpg more then the 6mt.
They lost so many customers not giving this thing a manual gearbox.
The customers that want a manual transmission are no longer relevant to the brand. That's how much they're betting on the Lineartronic CVT and standard EyeSight to get that IIHS safety rating for accident avoidance technology. The writing is already on the wall, the current manual transmission offerings will be the last.
@@AWDfreak Except most the people who care about all that safety technology and CVT stuff are buying Corollas and Camrys or foresters and Outbacks… not Impreza RS’s. I personally know a handful of people who wouldve bought this but now that its a CVT they will opt for something else. No stick in this will boost their WRX sales thats for sure. Maybe thats what they want.
'Fun' and CVTs aren't mutually exclusive, but they aren't synonymous, that's for sure
@@8JFJK8 yep. My mom has had two Imprezas, both manuals, and in her last 5 cars only one was auto. She specifically seeks manuals and AWD is a must, living in Maine, and she commutes a long distance so mpg is also crucial. Which leaves her with one choice-Manual Impreza. Sadly it looks like this will have to be her last one
If you drive a manual you would have wanted the WRX anyway. The gas savings of a manual over auto is long gone.
I can forgive the less than 200hrsp/trq, I cannot forgive the no manual option. Would have loved to see the WRX or STi be this.
Fuel mileage and safety. The CVT gets much better mileage, and they want to entire line up top be top safety pick rated with Eyesight, so no manual.
@@edsmith9855 Yes, the CVT gets better mileage, but it is a gutless transmission. Manual transmission is a must for an RS badge in my opinion. I am also aware of their top safety goal of 2030.
@@AdsmanJays Just like 5 boomers know how to drive manuals and they all have pre 2010 cars.
@@noob.168 whatever kid. My WRX is a 2018. Enthusiasts are not gonna want this car, Subaru going the wrong direction.
@@noob.168 lol what a brain dead comment.
This should at least have a decent short ratio manual as an option
First I'll start off by saying that Subaru did a good business move in streamlining the Impreza lineup to a more practical hatchback.
It is also a good move to bring back the RS model. However I feel like Subaru missed out on a good opportunity to make the RS more appealing to enthusiasts on a budget that also need something practical by not offering it with a good manual transmission. The old manual Impreza models never sold well because they were not really that appealing and the manual transmission it's self was not that good. They could had at least adapted the manual transmission from the BRZ to make it a nicer shifting manual option.
They should of put the BRZ/GR86 engine in it. Totally dropped the ball
Dispite some of us wanting a WRX hatch, whats really unfortunate is the lack of a manual option, I could see me buying this in my early 20's and lightly modding and decaling it into my own faux sports model, like I did back then with my 03 Focus. I love sporty yet affordable base models.
I like it. My first car was an ‘05 2.5L RS. Those were slightly over 120 hp. The cruise control acceleration was faster than using the gas pedal. It was a hatchback and a 5 speed. This is definitely a nice improvement. So glad that the seats are better. I have the 19’ 2.0L crosstrek limited, and the seats on that still are lacking.
they had 165 hp
Haha maybe your throttle cable was too loose
@@iTeachMyToast, they also topped out at 130 mph. Some folks did on TH-cam. Though I don’t condone that or recommend that, I wonder if these can do the same/worse/ or better
Am just wondering what's the appeal of an Outback 2.5L if it produces the same power i.e. 180hp or thereabouts as a Crosstrek and soon as a 2.5L RS....? Am not sure who to blame but I blame Toyota for buying out Subaru and mass producing (or over-producing) the things that endear those who love and are loyal to Subarus, huge profits notwithstanding. Can't fault the profit making, it's a business after all, but what changes they're doing to the traditional Subaru as we know it, doing away with manuals, CVT gearboxes et cetera, that's the hard bit to take. Maybe with time we'll accept the changes but for now, it's disappointing.
@Isotope387 yea unfortunately many other car makes are changing their legacy to cater to the masses. This 2.5 RS in reality is not like the old RS. It’s the product of pushing something out for sales. To me it’s just an Impreza with more power. The RS of the past was more than that. If it came with a hood scoop and little vents, as well as a manual, I could live with the rest of compromises.
Lost me after CVT... but the average buyer won't mind and notice the difference. Nice looking car overall. 🚗 👌
Not unless you take the car up to mountains often. CVT is generally fine in city and highways. But i've takena crosstrek over highways in mountains with slopes and downhills the CVT generally struggles at one thing, pulling torque out. with 20-30% slope angles and long climbs rated at 120km/h standard. The car likes to rev to 3500 to even 4000 rpm. But you feel like theres no power to push. You just see the speedo going down while revs keeps climbing. Gets worse on summer days with A/C on.
Other than that one issue with delivering torque, the CVT is fine in everyday driving, just not great when you take it up mountainous regions. It'll manage but will struggle even with the 2.5L.
It's ironic how the previous Impreza that was available with manual and not a very good one at that, did not sell well mostly because it was not a compelling package like this new RS model. And now that it's finally appealing it no longer has a manual which is the very thing that the typical RS buyer would be interested in.
Had one of the gc8 rs coupes when I was younger. Best car I have ever had for drivers experience. This thing with a manual and I’m in.
Yeah, Ryan doesn't even dwell on the no manual issue....stopped watching after I heard it was only CVT
No 5/6MT no deal. At least WRX owners can rejoice knowing they can make WRX's without the tacky plastic cladding on the wheel arches. Maybe the 2024 WRX will get that treatment and give buyers a decent option for a fun Subaru.
I think they should have given dual exhaust and 6 speed manual. You can't call it an RS with auto and hidden exhaust.
I guess you can say I have history with the 2.5 RS. I bought one new in 2002, enjoyed it immensely and still own it (though it needs head gaskets to be useful.)
I like that this doesn't have black cladding and I like that it's a hatch, but I'm not sure the CVT is for me. Yes I get that nobody cares about manuals anymore, but I don't have to like it.
The CVT robs the engine on hp and mpg.
Trying to get around another car on a mtn pass with your foot on the floor, the rpm is at 5K and you’re sitting on 70mph.
Headgaskets killed my '04..such a blast to drive.
@@Doc1855 You're partly wrong; the Subaru CVTs get slightly better mileage than the manuals.
@@poturbg8698 I was comparing the CVT to an 8 or 10 spd geared transmission.
Sorry I didn’t clarify that to you
I almost bought a 2000 RS sedan but ended up buying a used 05 WRX instead because I know I would eventually end up swapping the engine anyways.
However this new RS model would had been a nice compelling package if it was available with a good manual transmission. I say that because the old manual that Imprezas had were not that good to shift.
Finally, the 2.5L comes to the Impreza. About time. Wonder when it will be available, and if the supply situation will be sorted out by then. I know the seats are not very elaborate, but somehow the ones in my 2019 Impreza fit perfectly. Maybe it is because I am the only driver, and they have molded to fit my body. The new model will be great if the price is right.
My first new car during college was a 2.5RS coupe with gold wheels....it was a year before the release of the bug eye WRX...really loved the car...installed AVO turbo kit. Loved the GC8 body style...still the best looking Subie
Drove that car 1st gen RS - Rally Blue, gold wheels - brand new (friend owned a dealership) on a week long road trip back East in ‘99 and it absolutely sold me on the brand. Such a different solid and planted feeling than the Hondas and Mazdas I was familiar with. I couldn’t believe how much attention that car garnered as well. It was like we were driving a Lamborghini or something haha.
Great review! Id like to see a side by side video with Mazda 3 AWD 184hp
Where is the 1.8l turbo from the Levorg. Or the 1.5l Turbo?
Thanks for the review Ryan,
If I were 35+ years younger, I’d probably buy one.
But now that I’m in my late 50s, our Outback suits our needs perfectly.
lol i'm 26 but bought outback for the same things
David, I am 66. We owns One ascent (limited) and a 21 Crosstrek Sport. As much as I love the smoothness of the Ascent, the Crosstrek Sport handling is much more aggressive.
@@ericpizarro3084 I was in a horrific car accident in 87. I’ve been in constant pain since that day.
We need vehicles which are comfortable.
Yes I completely miss sport cars and roadsters, but I can’t get my wheelchair in and out of those on the days that I’m unable to walk.
@@Doc1855 sorry to hear that. Still you have the Outback. It’s an amazing car. Actually we had one and gave it to our daughter just because of how safe those cars are. She still have it with almost 300K miles.
My first new car purchase was a WRX and I love it. When my wife needed a new car we drove everything and she ended up in an Outback XT Touring because it is so comfortable and capable. I hate to admit this, but my wife and I pulled up next to each other on the way home from work at the last light before we turn off into the neighborhood and I did the engine rev and we raced. I dropped clutch, red lined and kept that pedal to the floor and she beat my WRX in the Outback XT. That speed is such a utility and the interior is lexus status. Hope they keep that change in the line up. I was sad they dropped the Forester XT, but this Outback is better.
How is the longevity on the current cvt? I had a really bad experience with a slightly older generation
So an up to date version of my ‘06 wagon but still missing my manual transmission? Sticking with my fun antique for now, thanks
At 7:10, you my man, have to hold some record for the most Bluetooth paired devices on a phone!! Amazing video in just 10 minutes!
😂
Will be getting rid of my wrx for this. Less hp for sure but all I need is a small 2nd family car that's automatic now. Did they say if the RS version will come in ocean blue color? or is it only red? will get red if have to
Honestly, would it kill Subaru to put the engine out of the BRZ in this with the manual?? That would be such a killer hit. Too bad they’re afraid it would steal the sales from the BRZ itself
Yes. Est. [US]$42M in Federalization costs per vehicle (engine/trans combo); so yes, it would not make money sense to them or their accountants. That is why lots of cars only get one engine and one transmission across entire showrooms, and languish for 8+ years on the same chassis. Or, if you are Nissan, 12+ years.
It would be fun, but no one buys Impreza manuals anymore so it would sell poorly.
I'll never not miss my ole 01 RS. :( NVH reduction is good stuff, still callin em FHI though. ;)
Thank Ryan, always good to see you hangin in there.
Stiffer chassis, updated powertrain, AWD, suspension, steering and safety systems. One of the rare performance oriented wagon/hatch’s remaining has my attention. It’s not a WRX (I’ve been driving one for 22 years) but the Subaru DNA seems to be here. Looking forward to the first test drives - an 8/10s WRX could be accessible when you milk out its limits. I’m keeping the Bugeyes wagon but this looks to be a potentially fun, modern daily driver.
Yeah I’m looking to trade my legacy for a new daily, this car looks like a good option
I love the tone of your videos. Keep up the good work.
Subaru made ulgy ass WRX and a RS without manual option. Dropped the sti. Great year for a subie fan.
Designed by committee. Garbage yes men/women in product development.
I like it and as always great review. I miss my 99 RS, super fun and to me one of the better looking vehicles Subaru has ever made. I was getting excited, thinking it would be a nice replacement for my 2019 Impreza Sport Manual. However, I will be keeping it as long as there is only the CVT option now for the Impreza. Looking forward to the full review.
I drove the ‘99, brand new Rally Blue on gold wheels for weeklong road trip. Its planted, great road feel sold me on the brand and I still have my bugeyes WRX wagon I purchased a couple years later. This seems to have the potential for a very good compact hatchback in a sea of CUVs. Super rigid, quieter chassis, sport suspension and bigger brakes, improved AWD and transmission response, the tiny torque bump is available 700rpm sooner. I like switches and manual transmissions but can live with screens and CVTs (I’m keeping the delightfully analog and manual bugeyes). This may be the car to replace our aging ‘06 Tribeca and bring us to the modern automotive age.
Interesting thing about that low resolution back up camera/screen, my 2018 Subaru Outback with the new for 2018 8inch STARLINK screen looks really good like high definition good! not to mention that it also looks brighter and bigger since the 2020+ models only use a small portion of that big 11inch screen and after driving a 2020 model and a 2022 model(both with the bigger screen) and then getting back into my 2018 model you can clearly see and notice how much more clearer and high resolution the older 8inch STARLINK screen look’s especially when pulling up that rear back up camera
When I consider a Subaru, I like its simplicity and reliability, especially for Impreza WRX. The current auto trend's large center touch screen makes it complicated enough already, now the CVT only model is totally opposite to me.
I wouldn't put reliability and Subaru in the same sentence
@@matthewgonano636 We've owned a Crosstrek, Outback, and BRZ (I know - that last one is mostly Toyota but it does have the badge so it's included) and have had nothing but reliable transportation with absolutely zero issues. Maybe I'm an outlier? Maybe I should knock on wood?
@@matthewgonano636 Subaru is rated 7th in reliability among all manufacturers according to recent reports.
What would be really crazy is if they put a turbo engine in it with a manual transmission and tuned suspension and called it an STi.
...but then the "darling" GR Corolla could not sit atop the Japanese AWD Hot Hatch mountain. It would have actual competition (not from Germany) and it would also be fighting it's cousin, in a roundabout sort of way. 3-cyl turbo vs boxer-turbo; each with about the same amount of power ironically. The GR Corolla did not kill the STI, car boardroom executives did; and most likely, ones from Toyota, despite the minority stake in FHI
maybe I missed it but are they offering manual on all models?
Is it standard with LED lights?
If it is priced at around 25k and has a 0-60 time between 6.8-7.2s then this will be perfect in their lineup and the market as a whole. If it is priced any higher then people will go for a base wrx, civic or something else.
The current premium model starts at $27,000 so this RS model will most likely be above that.
@@beebs4881 No, it doesn't, unless you are using Canadian prices. I just checked the website, and the premium starts at 23,700 without delivery and destination, so about 25k for a premium hatchback. Unfortunately that means the RS will probably be close to 30k, which is a bit much.
Why would you buy this when other japanese cars are 20x better?
@@edsmith9855 I was looking at a local dealer's site. Either they are ripping people off or made a mistake
@@beebs4881 More likely they were padding the price or adding a lot of options. Unbelievable, but Crosstrek sports are going for 32k in my area now.
I liked the style of the current gen and I really like this one as well. Never got into a subaru because the gas mileage always seemed not great to me lol
I wish they would have offered a 6 speed manual transmission with this
Agreed.
@@drivingsports when Honda can turn out a civic SI with a manual, Subaru is really fumbling it with overly myopic bean counting decisions. Disappointing!
I believe the decision is due to eyesight and safety + lack of enthusiast in an Impreza. Manual transmission conflicts with eyesight habits. I own the 2017 forester in a manual as my daily driver. That was my reason for the point of sale. Let’s hope the future can adjust to our desire.
So no manual option will be offered at all? Is that correct??
Can you break the tires loose and slide it? That was the best part of my 2001. I had a legacy more recently. It definitely did not like getting sideway. It was pretty difficult To break it loose
Does it come in manual ?
Ryan, Going way back to your 2005 RS, how many old-fashioned, un-simulated gears did you have to choose from? 😉
I had a bugeyed RS. It was my favoritest car. Will this new RS replace my dying car? Maybe. But I dislike the tablet vs the outgoing center stack.
Gonna have to do some comparisons between this, the Civic hatch, and the Mazda 3 hatch.
Any chance it has the Crosstrek fuel tank? Extra range would be nice!!!
Wait is that RidinLow Garrick? :) I haven't seen him since I was a teenager back in my NASIOC Tristate meet days
I recently had to get rid of my 01 RS. I loved that car.
very nice first-glance review! I'm a huge fan of compacts and this was going to be a serious contender for my next daily driver.
...but it won't be.
I hate to jump on the no-manual-no-care train, but this is a serious point. I'm not sure who they are targetting with this car, but I have to assume it's a buyer who has a serious axis on driving enjoyment and chooses to put aside creature comforts (and automation) in favour of envolvement. This new Impreza definitely seems to hit many great marks, but the serious bump stop here is the CVT-everywhere, no more manual option thing.
Compact cars are a dying breed, as we all know. If someone wants a comfy commuter, there are a meriad of commuter-grade and performance-grade CUVs and SUVs to suit every need and want, all with many ways of automating gear ratios. The number of manually shifted options are probably counted on one hand now. Also, to release a brand new car in 2022 (for the 2024 MY) without any hint of electrification option is...ehhh...lacking foresight? The Crosstrek can already be had with Toyota's Rav4 hybrid drive system reassembled in a longitudinal configuration and holds onto Subaru's mechanical AWD and bxer engine. Very cool. Only available on the topest of top trim. (why?)
Flame suit on, but this car equipped with a gas engine should have been manual only, and base trims should have been a parallel hybrid system. Heck, the 2.5RS should be the only Impreza available with a gas-only engine and only have a manual trans. Everything else should have some form of hybridization. They already build a 6-speed manual transmission for this platform that bolts to this engine. And if you don't fancy shifting your own gears, this should make every use of hybridization as possible as the driver axis on pure driving enjoyment isn't really there anyway. Why burn more gas for no enjoyment?
Trims should ahve been :
2.0L + parallel hybrid (automatic only)
2.0L + PHEV (automatic only)
2.5L + 6-speed manual (from WRX)
Anyway, I like the updated styling, interior space and normal analog gauges (also a dying feature), hate that massive tablette. I would have considered it had it had a serious hybrid option. Would have loved it for its performance throwback had it had a manual.
Oh well.
FWIW, I'm 33, have 2 kids but my wife wants the bigger squishier car for kid duties. Me? I have a 2014 Mazda3 with a 6-speed manual and a 2001 6-speed manual Miata now tucked away for the winter. One day, I'll have to replace my Mazda3, but it's doing really well. I'm really looking for an excellent hybrid (preferrably PHEV) option in the compact car segment, as light and cheap as humanly possible with a serious axis on driving pleasure. So far, maybe the Kia Niro, maybe the Corolla AWD, maybe even a damn Prius. Mazda hasn't done anything with electrification, and I see Subaru is on the same page.
I bought the 21' sport & love it, this looks very nice.
Please review the mazda cx-60
How do you make a 2.5 rs without a 2 door option
Which AWD system does the RS have? The standard MPT for CrossTrek or the more advance VTD in the WRX?
It's using the same Active Torque Split AWD system as before with a 60:40 nominal split and multi-plate clutch for F:R transfer.
@@drivingsportsdisappointing, if they gonna drop manual at least give options for the vtd
@@suewang9210 Completely agreed. Having the Active AWD is a disappointment. If they're gonna relegate the RS to a CVT-only, they might as well exploit that and put in the VTD as standard.
I didn't hear anything about a manual trans option so this unfortunately might be a pass, unless Subaru come to there senses and put a manual back in later on but I doubt it. Still have a love my 04 Impreza Outback Sport 5 speed, the good ol' days of Subaru.
Probably not. They want you to have eyesight and auto start stop and all the good for you features. SAD!
@@mallninja12 This is pretty much the new Subaru. They want all customers to get EyeSight + Lineartronic. The manual transmission is a burden to them at this point, despite a sizable chunk of its hardcore loyalist following being the kind that does buy a manual transmission.
@@AWDfreak They also wanted to force me to pay 99 dollars to have the "feature" of having the OBW remotely lock and unlock, record my trips, and all this other BS I don't want. I got the onyx to go off the grid - not have a satellite record my every move or have a bug lock me out of my car in the middle of the desert (I had my garbage battery die and had to walk 4 miles to route 66 in march). That, and all the other regulations on these things now just made me not want it. I got my deposit back and bought a 13 blue wrx wagon with rod knock thats going in for an IAG stage 2 build wednesday. That car is simple. That car drives. That car won't email me 10x after a weekend out when my tires are aired down and my wiper fluid is low. it will be a driving experience not a nag.
@@AWDfreak Subaru has forgotten the rally heritage that made people care about their cars in the first place. They have been trying to ride on pure hype since 2008.
Wait, How is it a 2.5L when they were replaced as of 2022 with the new FA24 to replace the EJ model completely. To be standard for the Global Chassis. Lol I'm kind of confused
Is that a ‘the Batman’ Batmobile on your shirt Ryan? Love it! Love this new 2.5rs too, always wanted one. 😊
I will take mazda 3 hatch. Looks way more hot
Great job as always
So no manual option?
Is it an FA25 or an FB25
I already want it but I just bought a 2018 Impreza sport a year ago 😅
Hi Ryan!
What's the expected price for the car
Guessing around the same price as a limited of the outgoing model? That would be around $28k for the RS. No actual info to back that up though.
definitely swapping the rs seats into my VA wrx
Shame there is no mention of a manual, which would be how I option it. With most manufacturers ditching them on non-sport models, I gravitate towards dual clutch or torque converter automatics. I've been in a few CVTs and really dislike them.
A wrx Crosstrek would sell like hot cakes.
Actually the Crosstrek has always sold like hot cakes since the first generation came out and that’s with a 2.0 flat 4 boxer that makes 152hp(current generations base engine)….and really that’s all you really need for such a small light weight vehicle….sure it’s not fast by any means, but it feels way faster then it really is….maybe it’s the amazing sharp tight handling the Crosstrek provides that makes it feel faster then it is….
A Subaru XV/Crosstrek XT with a 5MT or 6MT would have me itching to buy a new Subaru again.
the front end on this looks sooooo much beter than the 2024 crosstrek.
Water temperature?
Why the video at 0:58 and 1:07 has combing? Did you forget to deinterlace?
We didn’t de-interlace when we put them on TH-cam more than a decade ago.
Hi Ryan, Regarding at 6:28 the poor resolution of the central screen with the reversing camera, considering that this is a prototype, fingers-crossed, hopefully by the time the vehicle makes production in 2023 that there is a much better resolution screen available. :)
I’m curious about driving dynamics, how hefty and precise the steering wheel is, it all comes down to how it drives
I can’t wait for the test drive! 🚗💨
Test drive?
why there are no plastic trims in the fenders of this impreza but there are on the WRX ....
Damn it’s a limited wrx with a different motor. Put the fa24 in this with a manual 😢
Such a shame they use a cvt as the only transmission option. I get they do that for the safty features but i feel like the RnD to make a manual gearbox compatible with the eyesight would be beneficial for subaru in the long run. Or use some RnD to develop a dct for these more performance/sporty models
Sooooo happy I bought my new 2021 sti!!!
Excellent shirt, Ryan. Now I'm going to have to go find one.
Adaptive cruise control with Lane Centering will be standard across all trim levels, not just the RS.
Looks great! I’m looking forward to the 24 trek based on the upgrades to this one!
Ryan, thanks for 1st look at 2024 Impreza RS... Can't wait until pricing is published. I owned 2002 Forester Limited and really like that hatchback. Current Impreza is under powered and boring... but the 2024 RS
meets my needs.... How much do you think a loader RS will cost?? Yes, might buy one net year !!The red one is smoking hot 🙂
An annoyance I have with the top portion of the screen is the water and oil temps. The oil temp gives you the actual temperature, but the water temp says, "Norm". Who is Norm and what was he doing in my car? Is there a way to get rid of Norm and see the actual number?
Overall it's disappointing that the RS is just a trim level now where it originally was a sports oriented package for the car. There's no mention of different suspension settings, special seats, or most importantly a manual transmission, which further reduces the RS as a sporty alternative to the Civic or Mazda3. That humongous ipad in the center of the dash is an eyesore. Overall, meh.
Looks like they hit it out of the park. Shame that it is auto/cvt only. I would have liked to see the adition of rear AC ventilation on the impreza. I think thats a must have to keep your family/ pets comfortable.
I wish they'd add a JDM roof vent option instead of a heavy mini sunroof. Forced induction would be cool. Positive pressure is great for dust. A dream
should be a 225hp, is this the same engine in the Crosstrek ??
I was waiting for you to post this lol
In Japan, the CROSSTREK was released first, so after seeing that, the new Impreza looks like Hyundai from a generation ago without any features.
You know I'm gonna be honest I'm happy they brought back the rs yes I know it's automatic but let's be honest there's thousands of performance shops throughout the US someone will give it a mannual gear box and supe it up thats what I want to see just bought an 13 impreza sport hatch and I'm in love coming from me who's a rotary head
i love that subaru has an affordable wagon competing with corolla and civic! it's fantastic because where the others lack in rear seat headroom and legroom and also luggage space, this car has all of it! But, no actual spare tire and a full center console touch screen with no easy dials or buttons for temperature controls, and an apple car play system that isn't even proven to work are all very bad signs. hopefully the outback sport (impreza) has an actual spare tire and more space dedicated to actual dials and buttons on the console. As a city driver though, i am of the unusual standpoint that I embrace a CVT, but only if it's not trying to be something its not, i don't want it to immitate a manual, or a traditional automatic. I want a CVT to be an honest smooth reliable transmission. after just recently needing a rebuilt transmission on my camry, i've learned that for a city driver, a good CVT might be a more durable choice than a traditional transmission, no gears, less pieces to break, as long as you do the timely fluid service intervals, a good cvt should last just as long if not longer than a traditional auto.
When I see those 2008 STI's now I think they're cool looking.
The STIs were wide body. The WRXs adopted the wide body in 2011-2014 and the Stis were that body from 08-14. The "narrow body wrxs" are the Tribecas of WRXS that we all willingly forget about.
Still love my 2012 hatchback 2.0i.
I had an 18 trek and a 20 onyx. The global chassis is GREAT but the CVT is boring. I traded in my OB onyx for a busted 13 wrx wagon and its going in for an iag short block next week. I figure they don't make em like that anymore
Some nice improvements but like other comments, needs a manual. I'll hang on to my 2019 5sp for now.
The CVT's that come in these subaru's are so painfully slow. In my experience, These cars are REALLY fun to drive when manual.... and literally just okay with CVT's. This CVT will have to offer vast improvements on the existing platform (closer to what Mazda, or BMW are offering) for many buyers (Myself included) to even consider purchasing it.
Subaru, I expect the 2025 to do better. Please give us a manual option in the 2.5RS.
I'm looking for a replacement for my 2013 BRZ that'll more easily fit my kids. If this (or another Impreza) were offered with a 6 speed manual transmission and 200+hp , I'd consider it. But as is, it's not enough.
Check out the Outback XT.
@@Doc1855 bought my wife the Outback Wilderness. Regular gas and it goes like stink lol. Very nice car overall. (I'm in my STI still though but the Outback is real nice)
@@matthewwain9958 I too bought my wife an Outback.
I’m still driving my 11 Rav 4WD Limited with a 3.5 V6. It has 268hp and can easily pull away from any Subaru XT.
MINI Clubman JCW (oops, sorry about the price)
@@Doc1855 Outback is sluggish compared to my BRZ and more than 1100lbs more. I want something that no slower than my BRZ and still handles well around corners.
I personally love it just enough power , comfortable seats, great look, reliable and affordable. It’s got everything
Yea, all the complaining.. I don't get it. It's what people want.
Finally, the hot hatch Impreza is here, maybe to stay. Good for you, Subaru.
The question is the reliability of the head gaskets. They get that sorted, I am a fan again.
Ugh, it kills me when everyone boasts about making the engines or sound quieter. Back in the day we WANTED to hear that Boxer engine rumble. It is a sweet sound. I smile everytime mine power on
Crosstrek with the 2.4t and more stripped down in equipment so it’s not super expensive would be perfect. 👌
I think the obvious comparison would be the AWD mazda3 2.5 which is a little nicer but less space and visibility for sure
Those 2007 shoelaces where epic!
😂
This impreza rs is the definition of FUN and checks all of my boxes for FUN on what I was looking for in a car. This RS has me really sold and just want to buy it already
It looks good, it seems the powertrain is well balanced, but no manual transmission?
No more manual for this model.
It’s nice to see this level offered. However, some of us like the simple bargain basement trim levels. I don’t want a massive iPad dash, or eyesight, or a smart key. If my Baja ever gives out, I’ll be looking for the last good analog (probably 2018ish) Crosstrek to replace it with. Manual transmission, no Starlink, no massive tablet dash.
Unfortunately, even the base models have the giant iPad now.
Wait. There is going to be no more low trim level Imprezas in late 2023, 2024? What do we get instead?