New Pioneer DJ DDJ-FLX4: 7 things you NEED TO know before buying
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ย. 2024
- Phil from Digital DJ Tips DJ reveals the new DDJ-FLX4 in this live show, sharing 7 important points, and taking questions from the community.
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In the last 15 years, I've owned more than a dozen controllers. DDJ 400 is an excellent device. FLX4 has smart upgrades, especially for beginners. Nice work Pioneer. I'm excited to see the new mobile app.
Thanks for sharing
Simply the best
This is a ddj 400 on steroids. Works with mobile, tablet or laptop. Midi control via bluetooth. Works with a power bank. Rekordbox and Serato compatible. Microphone features. Great job Pioneer 👍🏻
Pretty much our thoughts, too.
PANTS...400, then CDJ'S This guy gets paid for chatting shite
Will this controller connect to my pioneer dm40 bt speakers via Bluetooth?? Thanks
I think that this unit is an absolute gamechanger (considering they deliver on the mobile software). The idea of a powerbank powered controller that works with a mobile phone means that you can just take it on the go with relative ease.
Yeah. The details are where this controller really shines.
I’m really having problems getting to work to be honest I’m kind of over it
I already have a DDJ 400 and I don’t think this has enough modifications for me to swap. However, if I was buying a brand new beginner controller then I would definitely buy this. I like the idea of getting other people involved who wouldn’t normally DJ using the sync/smart fader.👍
your DDJ-400 continues to be a great little controller.
If this has 4 deck control u must swap it out..
I would recommend a ddj RB or the ddj-SB3 for a well distributed layout.
For me personally, this video came out at just the right timing (as im holiday shopping). I'm getting back into DJing again (used to own the pioneer DDJ-SR around 8 or 9 years ago) and was looking at getting a new beginner controller that gives alot of compatibility options to ease back into the swing of things without being too overwhelmed on a single decision. Thanks for the info Phil! This controller really does check many of the boxes and main features/concerns I first look for when I'm searching for a unit.
Im impressed Pioneer finally did something correct for the enthusiasts / hobbyists currently looking to get into DJing (ESPECIALLY considering this price range)
Thanks for sharing your thinking! Yes, flexibility is one of the key features of this.
I was looking for my first controller back in May 2023 and I really wanted to get the DDJ400. New and used DDJ400s were selling well above a brand new DDJFLX 4 ($300) so I went for the DDJFLX 4. I am soooo happy I went for the DDJ FLX 4 over the DDJ400. And I thought I’d prefer Rekordbox over Serato, but thanks to this controller being compatible with both I was also able to try Serato and I’m really liking Serato a lot more.
this video saved me! I was about to pull the plug on the flx6 and I watched both of your videos and made the decision to buy the flx4. Thanks!
Glad we could help!
I love the new updated FX features. I wish they would add theses to the DDJ-1000. They would be awesome to have in that moment you have to mix at the last minute while trying to listen to guest's requests.
Yes, they're pretty cool...
Do you think serato could add this feature ?
I just checked out the review and this entire video, and I'm very glad that I'm still saving money and waiting, saved $172 so far, so I'm very close :) and what I'm most excited is the Android support and the future rekordBox mobile app for Android :D hopefully it won't have GUI fragmentation between iOS and Android
Really loved the way you gave a demo on this, and the studio u have to do this job us next level, really i have lot of respect on you and on your work,
Thanks, Guitar Zone!
The best Dj Standalone and controller in the market is the Numark Mixstream pro, you just save a lit more of money, and you get an amazing gear. Pioneer long time ago lost the way overpricing the DJ industry with bad gear. Numark and Denon are making the good way.
Hmmm it's a great controller, but the FX are not up to scratch on the latest versions, for us.
Lol you just answered my question thank you
No, the XDJ RX3 is.
The cheaper Standalone player from Pioneer it's to way more expensive than Numark Mixstream Pro and Denon gear. The DJ DDJ-FLX4 it's just a controller, you need a Laptop too, The best option for a good investment is the Numark in my opinion, It's Standalone, 2 usb port, 1 sd card, Big touchscreen , a super good Software, the Engine 2, with Recordbox playlist integration, build in speaker, Wifi for streaming Djs Music Service, and yeah like you said, the FX's are no the best, they fixed a bit better in the new update. I don't care to much about FX, I don't dig Djs that fill the track with a lot of FX's. Don't let it be the track and breath his original vibe, instead of focus on a good mix.The cheaper Pioneer standalone player it's the XDj -700 with a price of $769, just for one Side player for a gear from 2015. The Numark it's $699, the DDJ-FLX4 it's $299, you just save a lit more and you get a better gear for your investment. People check the Numark and make your decisions.
@@SantinoP619 The XDJ RX3 Its $2,099 in USA, and even more in the rest of the world. Numark Mixstream pro its like a cheaper good quality of the RX3, you can do the important things the same.
Between the FLX4 and the hercules impulse 500 for a beginner/intermedium DJ, which controller would you go for?
You need to compare/contrast, they both have strengths and weaknesses. We have a review of both units.
I have pioneer Wego 3 it works fantastic I like the new functions on the flexx 4 glade i waited I don't need a 1000 dollar controller this will be a perfect upgrade for me....
Definitely a good upgrade 😀
I love my ddj 1000 had it since it came out. But I'm itching to REALLY go Mobil meaning minimal cords and no electricity. This is what I need and want. I'm also going battery speakers so the fact that I can use my rekordbox app or my computer is just a game changer to me. I want to be able to set up and break down in certain situations quick and easy
Look at the Mixstream Pro
Thanks for the review, people always gonna hate. Appreciate ya
That's life! thanks :)
Not seen this until now as I have been loving my Roland 707 BUT ...... BUT I am going to buy one as what looks to be a great backup unit if the main device ever fails and a good price point with this in mind THANK you for a great review
Enjoy!
Exactly what I needed. Thank you!!!
You're so welcome!
So when is the flx 8 coming out? BTW LOVING THE MOBILE DJ COURSE!
Not sure! Thanks for the 👍 on the course
The FLX 8 would be great. But with the FLX 6 then you should not get your hopes up
@@nighthawkgamer2 I’m hoping for an hybrid Ddj 800
@@DJ_V_squared Yeah, could be nice
Hi! I'm a brand new DJ and I wanted to ask you some specifics on controllers if possible :) I have both a brand new Pioneer DDJ-FLX4 and DDJ-FLX6 and I'm trying to decide which to start/learn with. I see pros and cons listed in your videos and they have been super helpful. For a beginner edm DJ, focusing on bass house/tech house, would you recommend one over the other? As a goal of possibly playing with club level equipment eventually. The smartfader seems like a nice feature, but I think 4 channels will help me in the long run? Or any other advice you might have. Thank you!
Honestly, either is fine - it's like wanting to learn to drive, and spending ages worrying about the exact spec of car to learn in. DJing can be learned on either of those units.
Great vid nice little controller
Yeah it is
Can't wait to see what else Pioneer have in the Works Phil 😉
If anyone is interested in djing on the FLX4 with a mobile device, I posted a MIDI mapping for djay Pro on the Algoriddim community forums. Works with iOS, macOS and Bluetooth.
Nice work
Should i buy a used DDJ 400 or a new flx4 because I think the smart fader destroys the fun and the challenge?
FLX4. You don't need to turn the smart fader on.
@@digitaldjtips Will you be able to use the DDJ 400 with the app or is that only possible with the FLX4?
Really informative video. 🙌
As a newbie, this unit looks perfect! It doesn’t seem too overwhelming either, unlike some of the gear I’ve been researching. I’m torn between the FLX4 & the Numark mix track. Budget is playing a big part unfortunately.
FLX4 gives you access to a well featured DJ platform (Rekordbox) as well as the same free Serato access you get for the Mixtrack, so I'd say FLX4.
@@digitaldjtips Really appreciate the feedback. I’m a musician, but this is like starting over & learning a whole new instrument! What speakers would you recommend me buying - something that will cater for 100-200 people ? Thanks again for your help. 👍
@@futureproof80behringer euro live 15inch passive or active 👍🏻
Love that intro song!
as a newbie bedroom dj I am sold!
Enjoy!
Does Rane wait another week then drop their new controller?🙂
Denon and Pioneer have shown their hand after all.
Well, we know it's coming...
Honest question here. Why dont djs use flx4 in the club? I bought one and ive played on high quality club gear with cdj3000s and honestly the flx4 just feels like having cheat codes. What is the reason not to use an flx4 and laptop setup in a top 5 club?
Build quality, audio quality
@@digitaldjtips how does the audio quality change from the Flx4 to the standard club gear (the djm mixer and cdj 3000)? is the difference that big? ive seen a video of dj carlo perform with an flx4
Rekordbox doesn't recognise my flx 4 after installing a driver.any idea I should try? Thank you so much for your videos (:
I own a Pioneer DDJ-SR from 8 years ago and I was planning on upgrading it. May I ask if the DDJ FLX4 would be an upgrade? or do you recommend that I stick with my Pioneer DDJ-SR
Great overview, can you use Serato STEMS with this out of the box?
Yes
Another great vid. Im thinking of getting back into things, thanks to you im leaning towards the fx4, one question, can you record your sets to either directly to iPhone or laptop or would it be downloaded to one of the apps, serato for example, and then listen to my set when ever i want?
If you are DJing with a laptop, there is a Record button in the software. This only works with music you own, not with streaming services.
Thank you. That leads me to another question. I have lots of vinyl from back in the day that i put onto my iPhone through iTunes. Can i access those on the fx4 ?
This is cool but for the same price as the Hercules 500 i’m wondering if it’s worth it if you already that? Probably more for those wanting to switch to a pioneer controller/recordbox
Exactly - has Rekordbox and mobile use, too.
The Smart filter seems to be just like the merge effect on the Flx6 but just a two-button control versus the one big knob.
Looks great
I bought it. Thank you for video qnd also to support my country Ukraine 💥🌹❤
Our pleasure!
I hope this gear will collaborate with edjing mix team
A Smart-Fader with Phrase Sync would be nice unless there is a software setting for that to work.
Im impressed Sir😊awesome review, as I have commented before, and I really appreciate all your videos from you took your advice controllers currently. I have a question, did they get rid of the original sync button on this unit? Being disabled and only have ability to use one arm properly I depend on the sync button, and I think it's a wonderful feature on controllers. And like you said, if you don't like it, don't press it. Well said! Also, is there any controller and software that will work with the chrome book? I am desperate to get that working for now until I get windows. Thank you.
This still has a sync button on it. There is an app called Beatport DJ that works on a Chromebook, I am not sure if you can plug in a controller and get that to work though on a Chromebook.
I was super hot for buying DDJ-400 and came to me like cold water splash.
Can u use the pioneer flx4 for weddings? Thank u for this great tutorial!
It is not designed as a pro controller, but in theory you could.
Just wanted to add, I did once noticed that most of lights on controller, I did not see the MIDI light but maybe that’s not for iPhone?? But now, only the IN OUT lights flashing
WHAT CASE BEST FOR THIS UNIT
how is it sound quality and power compared to a Pioneer cdj 2000 or 3000?
Will it work with Virtual DJ?
If not now, then imminently, yes.
What software does it use the FLX4?
Appreciate your input 👍
Ty
Rekordbox #1
Love this one for smart functions with rekordbox, but old school layout for FX is a bit annoying with other apps
Yes, true that!
I'm really torn between this and the Numark Platinum FX... I've been using Serato Pro so i'm not sure if the flx4 is worth getting if it won't work as good with serato
If you want to be able to use Rekordbox and/or the forthcoming Rekordbox mobile app, then get this.
Hi there, I am on the market currently to buy a new controller and I'm looking at the Numark Mixtrack Platinum FX and the DDJ-FLX4, I love using both programs (Serato DJ & Rekordbox DJ) however I'm not 100% sure on witch controller to buy. I love both layouts and the controllers in itself, and I want to know witch one should I buy as in witch in overall is the better controller, I do love modern stuff and both have it however the DDJ-FLX4 has the phone compatibility witch is superior than the Numark. I'm just really looking for the better recommended controller given they are really good controllers for there price point. Hope to get a reply have a good day/night.
If you want to use more than just Serato go for the FLX4
I purchased this controller a week ago, how do you turn on the jog wheel lights? Thanks
Not sure what you mean, it doesn’t have jog wheel lights
ok.... interesting...... rotary knob modification?
Is this better than the numark mixstream pro ? I’m in the market
We compare then at the end of the video.
thank god you did a size comparison. Are the jog wheels on the flx 4 slightly bigger than the 400s?
Not much in it, so I'd say no
I can guarantee that at the weeding day mobil djs play and mix very quick the radio version, it is not always a bad thing to do it, because at the wedding you to should make people happy easy with their favorite music, nobody take care if you a super mixer dj in perfection, sometime it is boring for a mix of people.
As we say, play to the audience in front of you.
Hi! Help, I can't connect to My laptop abd Mobile. The MIDI light blinks ando the cue and play lights buttons doesn't work. Any help would be great! Sorry about my English.
So let me get this straight, you said serato can work on my iPad or android tablet now!!?
No, it can't.
@@digitaldjtips thanks for clarifying,always love your content,keep up the great work !
Love it, however shame the visual dotted guides have gone around the knobs as it just makes it a bit harder to set levels in darker environments.
Thanks for pointing that out, we tend to do this stuff "by ear".
Can you pair a wireless Bluetooth speaker and plug the headphones in? On DDJ 200 the audio gets unpaired
No DJ would do that, as you need wired speakers for zero latency audio. So in truth, I am not sure, but I doubt it.
@@digitaldjtips I have paired my Bose Bluetooth speaker which has exceptional sound for small mobile gatherings, but it’s a bummer that I cannot cue the next track in the headphones … I have ordered the DDJ - Flx4 so maybe I can plug the headphones into the controller directly
What's the unity gain on this? Is it the last green light?
Question! Is it better to use MacBook Pro or Air (and adding memory) to install the software??? Serato / rekordbox 🙏🏽
Air is fine as-is, it's what we use.
I heard speculation that smart fader doesn’t work on Serato Dj Pro. Is this true?
You're right, it is a Rekordbox feature.
my concern is about the type c cable, my computer doesn't have type c in it, can I use type c to USB to my computer?
Yes, just use a type C to type A
@@digitaldjtips thanks I currently have this same issue but trying to get an adapter and hope it doesn't interfare with the sound quality?
It would be nice to see your comparison of flx4 and s2 mk3. . .
Thanks for the suggestion
Hi mate if I order this now will it work with the WeDJ app or do I have to wait till the start of 2023 for them to release the app
We don't think this will work with WeDJ.
Once the new software launches that allows you to utilize your mobile device, would this open the door utilize bluetooth powered speakers via your iPad?? Or would you run into some issues??
Won't ever work for DJing, due to latency.
Hello. I wonder do i get cables in the box to connect it to my pc or do i have to buy it seperatly?
You get one usb-c cable
Best muziek app
Why so much hate for DDJ-FLX6? It’s a 4 channel controller which you give it no credit for. It has 4 separate channels which to a lot of DJ’s is a really convenient feature but you appear to rate all controllers with a 2 channel mindset.
We detail our issues with this controller elsewhere, but we feel it is underpowered for the money. That said it unlocks Serato Pro which is a rarity at this price level, so for Serato it represents better value.
Regarding the sound path. Do I have to use master out? This is a controller so ideally I would like to use my usb DAC, not the dac in the controller. You mentioned that the sound quality is not the best. But what happens if I don’t use the master out? Is it possible?
Sound quality is fine. I'm not sure Rekordbox lets you re-route audio, Serato certainly doesn't. That's not to say it isn't possible, just I haven;'t tried/don't remember seeing the option.
I have FLX 4 and Serato lite … how does Smart Fader work or how is it enabled?
It doesn't work on Serato, but you can just use Rekordbox, which this unit unlocks
@@digitaldjtips Ok cool.. some reviewers are saying that this unit comes with RekordBox… it does not.
Smart fader?!! Come on Pioneer. Using a controller with sync is so easy to learn. Like the FX options though..
This moves way past sync - it's actually very cool.
Agreed, it's the same like everything else, it's not for everyone, but it can be cool if used properly since just mixing willy nilly will just make it sound bad, I think Smart Fader is like a teaching tool to make beginners listen out for the what the techniques are going to be used so that they can do the old fashioned way, but it can be used to save time
The thing I find funny is how they all love this but not the flx6 bc of the “gimmicky” features.
@@digitaldjtips yep I suppose it is if you’re a complete beginner
Hi Phil, could you tell us if we can use this unit on MacBook Pro 2011 with USB TYPE A? Do we need to power the unit or just the USB power is enough? Thanks!
Should work fine
Will it work with rekordbox 5?
Good question, not sure but we'd say probably.
very nice!
Pleased to help
Is there any way possible to enable 4 beat auto loop just by holding in button in it’s such a putty that they removed that
Can I use Rekordbox for free with the purchase of the DDJ-FLX4? I'm just a beginner.
Yes
When is this going to hit stores? (Europe)
They say "now"...
Depends on where in the world. In my country u can preorder until December 16th and that’s where it comes out
Is it have Output USB C 2.0 or 3 ?
DJ DDJ-FLX4: 7 or hercules inpulse 500??
both aiming at a similar market pace, choose the FLX4 if you want Rekordbox too.
I’m currently connected by Bluetooth , I can mix but my synch buttons and cue buttons and play buttons don’t light up? Also headphones aren’t working. Is that due to all my connections being via Bluetooth for now ? 🤔🤔🤔
You need a USB cable between this and your laptop
What about the license to upgrade your description for rekordbox or serato DJ pro
Where would you even buy one of these? everywhere I check they are out of stock or on back order.
It's hard! Many people are managing to get them but it seems not everyone.
Hi why do you think the sound ı hear from the headphones and the master from the bluetooth speaker arent synched..?
Because Bluetooth has latency ie delay. Do not use Bluetooth at all when DJing.
Pioneer also need FLX2 and XDJ Portable to compete with Denon. Also if FLX can be played with iOS or Android device they should have phone or tablet stand for FLX4
They have the DDJ 200
@@jss_510 ???? You are missing the point.
@@sfkim44 FLX 2 would be another version of DDJ 200
@NighthawkGamer200 yes that is what i want but I've already got flx4
@@sfkim44 Ah ok, makes sense
Ive just taken delivery of mine but having serious difficulty getting beatsource to stream through rekordbox. Im using a macbook, what software are you using on mac. Ive heard there may be a mac os issue. Im stumped and annoyed!
Sorry, not heard of that issue.
wonders about DJAY...
Sure it will come soon enough.
What requirements does my laptop require for this and do you recommend any specific laptop (at a fair price)
Check which software you would use. And check the requirements
Bro stick with windows and rekord box and you be all good. I personally don't buy this mobile phone/tablet shizzle. A mobile is a phone, if you going to be mixing home, or mobile, then you may as well use a laptop, with a stand. The software runs a lot quicker, get your cue points/keys ect onto a usb drive ect.👍 (p.s I guarantee the mobile apps are cut down versions, and buggy as fcuk for long time)!!
Is the headphone output signal loud enough for cueing over speakers? I missed that one
Yes, although obviously it depends on the sensitivity and insolation of the headphones, but it's fine.
I am confused about the USB-C outputs and the cable Pioneer will provide with the unit. Does it have USB-C on one end and USB-A on the other end or USB-C on both sides? Will I need to buy any extra cables to connect it to my iPad?
Both USB-C
@@digitaldjtips my MacBook doesn’t have USB-C, so this means I’ll have to buy a USB-C to USB-A cable. That sucks. Hope it works as expected
why is their and indicator light ring with no indicator light?
Probably just aestehtics
@@digitaldjtips right on
Haven't they confused things with he name which sounds like that other, very different, controller (is it the FLX-6?)?
And surely it's a pretty good guess that the 800 and 1000 will now get revamps?
How is it confused? Flx or “flex” likely refers to the ability to use with both rekordbox or serato. FLX6 comes with a serato dj pro license and this only come with dj lite …..
Important question, the DDJ SB3 has two buttons to switch to deck 3&4 but the FLX 4 does not? Is there a way to still use all 4 decks in Serato DJ or is it strictly 2 channel?
I don’t want to drag and drop tracks lmao
No, there are no layer buttons on the FLX4
I have one question
Can ddj flex4 play wirelessly from mobile phone or I pad, I always find the out sound comes from the mobile not from the mixer ,
Wirelessly the music will always come from the phome.
I got the FLX4 but w no usb c outlets on my laptop have powered usb hub and adapters but no power to play. Any advice?
You need USB PD for the power, but that said your laptop should provide sufficient power for this
Master output to speaker connected via Bluetooth lags a for a second in comparison with audio in cue headphones...any solution for it?
You are not meant to connect master speakers via Bluetooth
Thank you sir, though I have a question please 🙏 . I just got mine, and I realise that I can’t use my laptop and play while I’m charging it at the same time, am I right? So … what, i can play until there’s no battery left on it and that’s it? Cause that’s so bad!😢
Why can't you just leave your laptop plugged in like normal? The controller will take power from your laptop.
@@digitaldjtips because the cable came with the controller is type c, and my laptop’s port for charging is also type C and I was like … how can they do that? But it’s no more a matter, since I just connected a simple cable of a charger to connect the controller with my laptop. So in other words the cable came with the controller is useless to me. Thanks for your time🙏. Remember me for more questions in the future please.
I like it the flex 4
Hey great video. Can i use this device with usb-a to type c since my pc doesnt have typec
Yes
Using A to C presently, works great on an older Mac book.
I like the looks of the 400 more than the FLX to be honest. The FLX looks more toy-like imo.
A few people saying that!
Does FLX 4 offer key lock? So the pitch doesn't change when we chamfe tempo?
Yes
I also wonder if the new app will be on IOS, I only see an Android switch on the back..
Yes, they've said it will be iOS too
@@digitaldjtips Thank you!