I,m a Scottish woman in her 70,s and I’ve been wondering on and off for the last few months how barbed wire is made ...I looked on TH-cam not really thinking I could find an answer ..but I found you straight away ....thank you very much ...and keep experimenting .
So, out of the hundreds of barbed wire styles, why did you choose the Ross? It's definitely a tough design but the least conducive method for replicating by hand. The Ross was originally meant to have barbs in all four directions (90deg separation) rather than two sets of barbs 180deg apart. The type of barbed wire most often encountered (two point twist) is made by taking a single wire, wrapping the barb around it with almost two wraps (660deg), and then twisting the other wire around the barbed single strand to make the complete wire. Nip the ends off at an angle to make a sharp point and you're done. The barb will move to a small degree on the single wire but the twist on the other wire holds it in place well enough to do the job, in fact, some of the cheaper wire actually forgoes the double wrap entirely with just a 300deg twist. I've used this method a few times when repairing a section of fence using bailing wire when I didn't have any barbed wire on hand. I suppose for that reason it's the easiest to replicate in an automated facility, hence why it's so common these days. In the late 1800's you might see several dozen types with very little similarities between them.
That is very interesting, I didn’t know that there was a lot of different designs to be honest. I’ve just always wondered what it would be like to try and make it by hand, so found a piece on the farm to replicate. Thanks for the information!
@@oscarduck1920 Ah, that would make sense. If I didn't know there were other designs, I'd probably think they were all pretty much the same thing as what I had in my hand. The type you have is a clever little workaround, as so many of the types were back in the 1800's, in order to sell bootleg copies of a patented product. Make a small change in the way the wire is wrapped or the barbs are made, and they bypass patent laws. Ross came into the game a little late, as there were tons of companies saturating the market by that time, so this wire found its way out of the US where the market was still fresh. Probably why you found this type as opposed to the mass produced simple stuff in the US. If you ever run across some wire that looks really odd and not at all like simple barbed wire, see if you can identify it. Some varieties are very rare and valuable to collectors. Another interesting fact for blacksmithing, some of the thin strand barbed wire is made with high carbon steel for better tensile strength and can be heat treated to acceptable knife and chisel hardness. The wire is heat treated and subsequently tempered close to the annealing point, to allow for bending and wrapping while maintaining some of its strength. You can generally identify it by a smaller wire gauge and higher tension being used on the fence. Sometimes you can find lengths of it laying near corners and end posts. Be mindful of the galvanized stuff if you forge it though, it's hard to keep inclusions out of the billet unless it's cleaned well.
Thanks again for the info you seem very knowledgeable! That’s a funny one about the patents, I’ve never even thought about barbed wire as being some that could have a patent, but now you mention it, it seems obvious.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper This is so interesting and cool! Is this an avid, active interest for you, or just a passing hobby? Have you read The Devil's Rope? I'd never considered that there'd be barbed wire collectors! So neat :)
@@dextrapede I'd call it more of a passing interest. I'd run across all sorts of old fencing running around ranches which made me curious as to why, and the info proved helpful mending fences and whatnot. I haven't seen a whole lot of it lately, but years ago it was pretty commonplace at ranches to have a board to display all the different types of wire they found on their property. Big ranches would absorb smaller ranches over the years, and as long as the fences were holding, they'd stay. I've seen some fences that were placed in the wild west days, still standing and doing their job! Anyway, those displays would occasionally find their way into flea markets and western themed restaurants and such, but I guess interest has waned over the years as it's been a while since I've seen one in a while. It was pretty neat to see really off the wall designs in remote places that had rarely been visited since they were strung all those years ago. If I ever had to repair a section of historical fencing, I always did what I could to mimic that style rather than replace it with a more simple modern design...perhaps someone a hundred years from now will appreciate it, who knows.
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I've never taken the time to really look hard at a piece of barbed wire. Thank you for sharing this it was great
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I,m a Scottish woman in her 70,s and I’ve been wondering on and off for the last few months how barbed wire is made ...I looked on TH-cam not really thinking I could find an answer ..but I found you straight away ....thank you very much ...and keep experimenting .
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So, out of the hundreds of barbed wire styles, why did you choose the Ross? It's definitely a tough design but the least conducive method for replicating by hand. The Ross was originally meant to have barbs in all four directions (90deg separation) rather than two sets of barbs 180deg apart. The type of barbed wire most often encountered (two point twist) is made by taking a single wire, wrapping the barb around it with almost two wraps (660deg), and then twisting the other wire around the barbed single strand to make the complete wire. Nip the ends off at an angle to make a sharp point and you're done. The barb will move to a small degree on the single wire but the twist on the other wire holds it in place well enough to do the job, in fact, some of the cheaper wire actually forgoes the double wrap entirely with just a 300deg twist. I've used this method a few times when repairing a section of fence using bailing wire when I didn't have any barbed wire on hand. I suppose for that reason it's the easiest to replicate in an automated facility, hence why it's so common these days. In the late 1800's you might see several dozen types with very little similarities between them.
That is very interesting, I didn’t know that there was a lot of different designs to be honest. I’ve just always wondered what it would be like to try and make it by hand, so found a piece on the farm to replicate. Thanks for the information!
@@oscarduck1920 Ah, that would make sense. If I didn't know there were other designs, I'd probably think they were all pretty much the same thing as what I had in my hand. The type you have is a clever little workaround, as so many of the types were back in the 1800's, in order to sell bootleg copies of a patented product. Make a small change in the way the wire is wrapped or the barbs are made, and they bypass patent laws. Ross came into the game a little late, as there were tons of companies saturating the market by that time, so this wire found its way out of the US where the market was still fresh. Probably why you found this type as opposed to the mass produced simple stuff in the US. If you ever run across some wire that looks really odd and not at all like simple barbed wire, see if you can identify it. Some varieties are very rare and valuable to collectors.
Another interesting fact for blacksmithing, some of the thin strand barbed wire is made with high carbon steel for better tensile strength and can be heat treated to acceptable knife and chisel hardness. The wire is heat treated and subsequently tempered close to the annealing point, to allow for bending and wrapping while maintaining some of its strength. You can generally identify it by a smaller wire gauge and higher tension being used on the fence. Sometimes you can find lengths of it laying near corners and end posts. Be mindful of the galvanized stuff if you forge it though, it's hard to keep inclusions out of the billet unless it's cleaned well.
Thanks again for the info you seem very knowledgeable! That’s a funny one about the patents, I’ve never even thought about barbed wire as being some that could have a patent, but now you mention it, it seems obvious.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper This is so interesting and cool! Is this an avid, active interest for you, or just a passing hobby? Have you read The Devil's Rope? I'd never considered that there'd be barbed wire collectors! So neat :)
@@dextrapede I'd call it more of a passing interest. I'd run across all sorts of old fencing running around ranches which made me curious as to why, and the info proved helpful mending fences and whatnot. I haven't seen a whole lot of it lately, but years ago it was pretty commonplace at ranches to have a board to display all the different types of wire they found on their property. Big ranches would absorb smaller ranches over the years, and as long as the fences were holding, they'd stay. I've seen some fences that were placed in the wild west days, still standing and doing their job! Anyway, those displays would occasionally find their way into flea markets and western themed restaurants and such, but I guess interest has waned over the years as it's been a while since I've seen one in a while. It was pretty neat to see really off the wall designs in remote places that had rarely been visited since they were strung all those years ago. If I ever had to repair a section of historical fencing, I always did what I could to mimic that style rather than replace it with a more simple modern design...perhaps someone a hundred years from now will appreciate it, who knows.
Amazing. Thank you. Now I have to see the specific machine that does this in slow motion
I'm going to attempt this with sterling silver, and solder them onto a cuff bracelet to make it wearable
but what if you made an entire crown out of it?
With this knowledge, those 'Peacekeepers' won't steal my WMDs
Awesome! Thank you!
if theres a zombie apocalypse im going straight to this man
great work man ! very much apreciated
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So cool I love experiments
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any way i can pay u to make me a piece of this ?
Send me an email if you’d like a piece ohbduck@gmail.com
Bro it barbed wire, not barbed scaffolding
It does look like it’s 9 wire that he’s using
That's pretty cool video stay safe forge on
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Oscar Duck ur very welcome my friend and thank you so much
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Tire wire is more good than that thing you used
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