You clipping the wire to make spikes gave me flash backs of my army days. I tripped and fell into a pit of coiled razor wire at night and it took 5 dudes to pull me out.
Quick tip: when cutting with metal ruler and sharp blades; stand up over the work. his allows you to put better downard force on the ruler & knife. Sitting, you're kinda 'side-on'. Cheers for your marvelous tutorials Mel
Great video, thanks. Confirmed I was on the right track, have been doing similar by using a length of thin florist wire and tuell or in other words fabric net. Its easier to cut the netting if its sprayed first with a cheap paint & left to dry so it's stiff. Then cut millimetre strips of the netting so that the cells that have been cut stick out sharp. I put glue along the wire & wrap the fine cut netting around the wire then spray paint the whole thing with black, grey or brown. You can get a rust effect by collecting actual rust from old tools or machinery etc & mix with PVA glue. The overall effect turns out pretty good.
Tie little knots with fine fishing line (you’ll need to paint it after) every one or two inches to create barbs that won’t snag or catch on things but look great
This was so much fun to watch! You have great energy on camera and it was super informative. You clearly love doing what you do and it rubs off on the people who watch it. Keep it up!
For a quick and uniform twist, use a cordless drill set to a low speed setting. Also, you can get a nice effect by twisting thin wire with a length of the mesh or vinyl screen. Looks perfect in 1/72 scale.
Hiya Mel, another great video! I remembered a very old technique from years ago how to make cheap barbed wire.... get a length of bulk standard cotton, tie a loose knot every so often, go back in with a small pair of scissors to make the barbs. Then a very light coat of pva over the cotton wrapped around a wooden dowel, Wait to dry and then you are away. Please feel free to share with the community. Only downside, is that it takes bloody forever to make. Kind Regards Johnny
Another great video Mel. Thanks for the top tip about the double wrap security wire, I have just ordered some on ebay and it is so much cheaper than the other barbed wire that I was going to buy. Cheers mate.
The aluminum mesh trick is a close looking barbed wire. I’m going to try two strands twisted together,should give me the the barbs I’m looking for. I work in fencing as my job and absolutely hate the stuff.
Nice and to the point! (Dammit, this is getting to be a habit. Sorry.) Anyway, I was a bit surprised you cut thru that steel mesh, but I love that effect. Try going down to a hardware store or lumberyard where they replace vinyl window screens. Ask them for scraps of old discarded mesh. That way you can get long sections of barb wire. One good sized window will yield enough for a year. I asked a guy for a square foot of it, he reached in the trash can and gave me a square yard! I cut it with scissors, super easy.
Hi Bill I think Mel was using Aluminium wire mesh rather than steel. It is also available form art suppliers as armature material for sculptures in very large rolls
Nice video with those different techniques. I used a different method back when I was in to terrain making that looked really good but takes a bit more time to create. You take 2 pieces of wire and you basically wrap one around the other, but with intervals. So, let's say you wrap a wire around another straight one. You make 2 or 3 wraps tightly together, and then you skip about 10 mm where you just pull the wire to the next spot where you want to wrap 2 or 3 times. This by itself already creates a great effect because your mind recognizes the wraps as part of a barbed wire. If you really want to go nuts, you can put a drop of superglue on each wrapped section, and then go back to cut the small wire connections between those sections. That basically creates a perfect mini copy of real barbed wire. But even without that last part, the barbed wire comes out really nice looking.
If you want to make it using the cut method you can take window screens spray paint it silver and cut with scissors. It won't be as stiff and is best used as strait line barbed wire between posts. Use a spot of superglue to secure as needed. Tinsel twisted is surprisingly strong and STUPID CHEAP and surpassingly strong but again use it in straight lines. Mel your a Genius as usual GREAT VIDEO:)!
Hey Mel what if you used the mesh wire you cut from the mesh sheet as your middle wire then twist the three wire together. It should be all done someone try this out and let me know how you liked it.
I've thinking and we know sometimes that's not a good thing. But instead of the two wires and the mesh straight cut wound together maybe just the one wire wound around the mesh cut. Try that. As always Mel you never disappoint. Thanks for posting.
Use a slow speed drill or rotary tool. To twist that wire. Put one end in small vice and the other in the drill. I have done this and it works. Just be careful with it.
Anyone have a link to the mesh in the second method? I'd love to just go on Amazon or ebay and order it, crater than wandering around a car parts store trying to explain my weird hobbies to car aficionados.
Why couldn't you do the double wire twist but before they are super tight, slide a small piece of the thinner wire through the 2 strands (at an angle where you want barbs). Finish twisting and just snip and shape the thin wire?
Hello Mel, I hope you are in good health. I have a question. What is the diameter of the log you wrap the wire around ? Get well and get well soon. Best regards Jens
Helped me find it in English as well as "Sealing wire". No one in North America seems to call it "double wrapped security wire" as far as I could find.
okay...this vid is great...another idea for my mechwarrior/train layout...my question is what would you suggest using for N Scale...these items seem to look a bit big for my need.
Three or four light strokes, not one big heavy one with the blade! You only nearly slice your thumb off once to learn a new technique for cutting with craft knives ;-)
I'm trying to build a large scale battlefield for my son in our backyard (20' x 12' area), but outdoors here in Seattle. With roads, buildings, sandbags, 1:18 scale. That said, what materials would you use to build roads, walls and sandbags that could withstand the test of time, sun, water, cold and heat?
Great video dude :) I was thinking about how to DIY barbed wire recently and rather than snip snipping away on the wrapped technique, do you reckon its possible to tie on small staples along and then wrap it up? Just a theory, I've definitely not tested... Liked and subscribed, your enthusiasm is awesome :D
Hi you helped me before... should i build my. goam board structures or the base and and terrain first. I have to tale it easy 2-3 minths due to surgery and an kinda new. ive done a couole of small boards for models but never ones i have platforms made 20x18 inches and 18x16 inches really nice wood squares. i just need ingo in if i should put down my structures after i use my mixed ProForm to make my terrain and i love yout aluminum foil rock wall tutorial. thanks for any info or help p.s. my firat will be a iraq war fiorama and sandy but am makung some dunes and a taliban or ISIS ruins fighting pisition... Thanks Fan MikeyLindsey'sAdventures (Mikey)
With bases that size, build the pieces and then mount them on the board, it'll be a lot easier than reaching over large boards while you're recovering mate. Get well soon mate!
Thought about that - but doesn't seem like that would hold if rolled up. I'd love the look of it rolled into a roll. I'll see what is out there :) love the vid!
anybody got a link I can use for the double wrapped security wire in the US? I've only found one roll on Ebay and it's 20 bucks but I don't know if it's the right stuff..it looks like but it's the only real option that does and forget finding it on amazon without it being amazon.uk..where I live there aren't a lot of hobby stores and pretty much none of them sell the premade 'barbed wire' for models and stuff..I got a Hobby Lobby and a Micheal's but that's about it for my neck of the woods.
You clipping the wire to make spikes gave me flash backs of my army days. I tripped and fell into a pit of coiled razor wire at night and it took 5 dudes to pull me out.
Damn!
I feel you dude. I was a Combat Engineer and dealing with that shit is nuts sometimes.
Mel dip the sealing wire in vinegar and let it dry it starts to oxidize naturally and turns out more realistic.
How long do you leave it in the vinegar?
I love it, so simple but so good looking and kinda cheap and esy to find the materials}
Quick tip: when cutting with metal ruler and sharp blades; stand up over the work. his allows you to put better downard force on the ruler & knife. Sitting, you're kinda 'side-on'. Cheers for your marvelous tutorials Mel
Thanks for the tip bud
Thanks for the tip about security wire, i just ordered a 100m spool for cheap on Amazon!
What thickness?
Great video, thanks. Confirmed I was on the right track, have been doing similar by using a length of thin florist wire and tuell or in other words fabric net. Its easier to cut the netting if its sprayed first with a cheap paint & left to dry so it's stiff. Then cut millimetre strips of the netting so that the cells that have been cut stick out sharp. I put glue along the wire & wrap the fine cut netting around the wire then spray paint the whole thing with black, grey or brown. You can get a rust effect by collecting actual rust from old tools or machinery etc & mix with PVA glue. The overall effect turns out pretty good.
Tie little knots with fine fishing line (you’ll need to paint it after) every one or two inches to create barbs that won’t snag or catch on things but look great
This was so much fun to watch! You have great energy on camera and it was super informative. You clearly love doing what you do and it rubs off on the people who watch it. Keep it up!
Thanks
This was super helpful. This barbed wire is going to look great on my vehicles!
You did this how long ago ? Im so glad I found it. Thanks so much mate.
thanks Mel ,youve just saved everyone a fortune(again)
Cheap and easy, my kind of video.😄 Great info Mel.
For a quick and uniform twist, use a cordless drill set to a low speed setting. Also, you can get a nice effect by twisting thin wire with a length of the mesh or vinyl screen. Looks perfect in 1/72 scale.
Nice mate
I love these "Let's Make" videos, Mel!
Spare cup to get the wire painted - great idea!
Hi Mel I use pipe cleaners not sure what they are called in the UK and then burn off the fluffy stuff and it comes out perfectly quick and cheap
They're called pipe cleaners.
Hiya Mel, another great video! I remembered a very old technique from years ago how to make cheap barbed wire.... get a length of bulk standard cotton, tie a loose knot every so often, go back in with a small pair of scissors to make the barbs. Then a very light coat of pva over the cotton wrapped around a wooden dowel, Wait to dry and then you are away. Please feel free to share with the community. Only downside, is that it takes bloody forever to make. Kind Regards Johnny
Another great video Mel. Thanks for the top tip about the double wrap security wire, I have just ordered some on ebay and it is so much cheaper than the other barbed wire that I was going to buy. Cheers mate.
Thank Celts for that one mate!
It's good that the community helps each other out in ways like this. Many thanks to Celts and everyone else.
The aluminum mesh trick is a close looking barbed wire. I’m going to try two strands twisted together,should give me the the barbs I’m looking for.
I work in fencing as my job and absolutely hate the stuff.
For method 3, you could put the wire into a dremel so you don't need to twist it manually :)
Nice buddy works out really well. Definitely more realistic than using spiral notebook wires like I used to lol
you should make more this type of video and is quite creative and engaging
Nice and to the point! (Dammit, this is getting to be a habit. Sorry.)
Anyway, I was a bit surprised you cut thru that steel mesh, but I love that effect. Try going down to a hardware store or lumberyard where they replace vinyl window screens. Ask them for scraps of old discarded mesh. That way you can get long sections of barb wire. One good sized window will yield enough for a year. I asked a guy for a square foot of it, he reached in the trash can and gave me a square yard! I cut it with scissors, super easy.
Hi Bill I think Mel was using Aluminium wire mesh rather than steel. It is also available form art suppliers as armature material for sculptures in very large rolls
Always wear safety glasses when dealing with wire.
Nice video with those different techniques.
I used a different method back when I was in to terrain making that looked really good but takes a bit more time to create.
You take 2 pieces of wire and you basically wrap one around the other, but with intervals.
So, let's say you wrap a wire around another straight one. You make 2 or 3 wraps tightly together, and then you skip about 10 mm where you just pull the wire to the next spot where you want to wrap 2 or 3 times. This by itself already creates a great effect because your mind recognizes the wraps as part of a barbed wire. If you really want to go nuts, you can put a drop of superglue on each wrapped section, and then go back to cut the small wire connections between those sections. That basically creates a perfect mini copy of real barbed wire. But even without that last part, the barbed wire comes out really nice looking.
thanks for sharing The Terrain Tutor
If you want to make it using the cut method you can take window screens spray paint it silver and cut with scissors. It won't be as stiff and is best used as strait line barbed wire between posts. Use a spot of superglue to secure as needed. Tinsel twisted is surprisingly strong and STUPID CHEAP and surpassingly strong but again use it in straight lines. Mel your a Genius as usual GREAT VIDEO:)!
We don't have window screens in the UK mate ;-)
AH:)! If you ever want some just say the word Brother:)!
terrainaholic
cheers bud
Nice Idea I wondered if screen would work. AWESOME!! Thanks
great stuff Mel. hoping to make some of this for my 40k battle reports
Oooh that's more like razor wire! Sweet
Hey Mel what if you used the mesh wire you cut from the mesh sheet as your middle wire then twist the three wire together. It should be all done someone try this out and let me know how you liked it.
I've thinking and we know sometimes that's not a good thing. But instead of the two wires and the mesh straight cut wound together maybe just the one wire wound around the mesh cut. Try that. As always Mel you never disappoint. Thanks for posting.
Great ideas
It's always a toss up between how easy and safe you want your wire, vs how realistic and difficult. I like the wrapped wire option.
Use a slow speed drill or rotary tool. To twist that wire. Put one end in small vice and the other in the drill. I have done this and it works. Just be careful with it.
Tried it, almost flayed my face off
Lol. Y s you have to do it at a,very slow speed..
this should come in real handy for my upcoming movie.
Awesome stuff Mel
Ever thought about using a wire wrapping tool mel!
not needed one mate
FYI Check out tigerwire, and hive wire as two awesome alternatives to Clapton wire (what you have Mel)
Anyone have a link to the mesh in the second method? I'd love to just go on Amazon or ebay and order it, crater than wandering around a car parts store trying to explain my weird hobbies to car aficionados.
Great tips, as always!
Another top tip! Many thanks!
Unfortunately I can’t find the security wire
Has someone already mentioned using an electric drill tool to wind the wire together? If so I apologize.
Holy shit thank you! Needed a good cheap way to do this!
Glad to help buddy!
Why couldn't you do the double wire twist but before they are super tight, slide a small piece of the thinner wire through the 2 strands (at an angle where you want barbs). Finish twisting and just snip and shape the thin wire?
How about a section that has a lane through blasted by Combat Engineers using a bangalore torpedo?
What gauge of security wire? Love the screen razor wire.
Wish you could link to that mesh - either where to buy it, or what it's called exactly.
Hello Mel,
I hope you are in good health.
I have a question. What is the diameter of the log you wrap the wire around ?
Get well and get well soon.
Best regards
Jens
I use tile spacers for the ends of the wire and they can also make great window frames, what do you think Mel?
Yep, did the same on my infantry obstacles vid
For the german viewers, the security seal wire is "Plombendraht" 😀
Four years later you helped a french find the name for it in its language. Thank you !!! For the french : it's called "fil de cachetage".
You helped a Spanish to find it too haha
Helped me find it in English as well as "Sealing wire". No one in North America seems to call it "double wrapped security wire" as far as I could find.
hi where did you buy this wire mesh, and what number 5 or 100 or 300 pleasen sent link
its exhaust repair mesh, I think I paid £1 for the sheet
okay...this vid is great...another idea for my mechwarrior/train layout...my question is what would you suggest using for N Scale...these items seem to look a bit big for my need.
Thinner guage wire mate, that's all really
Three or four light strokes, not one big heavy one with the blade! You only nearly slice your thumb off once to learn a new technique for cutting with craft knives ;-)
you know me buddy!
use cordless drill to twist wire ..works perfectly
I'm trying to build a large scale battlefield for my son in our backyard (20' x 12' area), but outdoors here in Seattle. With roads, buildings, sandbags, 1:18 scale. That said, what materials would you use to build roads, walls and sandbags that could withstand the test of time, sun, water, cold and heat?
Same materials, you just need to seal them properly mate, not really my field but I reckon a good outdoor varnish should do it
Thanks Mate!
looks great
Que num de calibre es el alambre???
Hi Mel. Could you link to an example of the barbwire on ebay at all? Tried searching for it, but couldn't find any at all on ebay. Cheers.
security seal double wire - www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Security-Seals-Galvanized-Steel-Double-Wire-line-for-sealing-100-Meters-/122095720092?hash=item1c6d78d69c:g:OuAAAOSwvUlWq1ID
OK cool thanks. Did find this one, but wasn't sure if it was the right thing. Great vid and keep 'em coming mate! ;)
thanks Mel! Any tips for using this in 15mm? Would you change anything?
Just smaller coils mate
so smaller rod or dowling like maybe 3/8" or 1/4" dia
thanks Mel
Great video dude :) I was thinking about how to DIY barbed wire recently and rather than snip snipping away on the wrapped technique, do you reckon its possible to tie on small staples along and then wrap it up? Just a theory, I've definitely not tested...
Liked and subscribed, your enthusiasm is awesome :D
Just a thought, not sure if it will work.Can you use "wire" from method 2 as middle wire in method 3?
Good stuff!
Where can you buy the security wire? I can't seem to find it online
eBay
so rust is just a really watered down orange ? I couldn't make out the details at the end of the vid .. sorry. would that work on vehicles too ?
yes and yes mate
+TheTerrainTutor much obliged sir !
Do you always use latex paints or do you ever use oil based too?
mainly latex based paints tbh
How big are the holes in the mesh
Subbed!
In germany the normal ppl doesnt have barp wire on the fence...its like to have illegal weapon...its a kind o' shit...
Hi you helped me before...
should i build my. goam board structures or the base and and terrain first. I have to tale it easy 2-3 minths due to surgery and an kinda new. ive done a couole of small boards for models but never ones i have platforms made 20x18 inches and 18x16 inches really nice wood squares. i just need ingo in if i should put down my structures after i use my mixed ProForm to make my terrain and i love yout aluminum foil rock wall tutorial.
thanks for any info or help
p.s. my firat will be a iraq war fiorama and sandy but am makung some dunes and a taliban or ISIS ruins fighting pisition...
Thanks
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With bases that size, build the pieces and then mount them on the board, it'll be a lot easier than reaching over large boards while you're recovering mate. Get well soon mate!
Thanks alot for the advice and the get well. One day at a time lol.
I can't find double wrapped secourity wire
Jepp, been searching for it too, but can't find it
www.ebay.com/itm/100-Meters-Security-Seals-Galvanized-Steel-Double-Wire-line-Sealing-Safe-Nr-1070-/201027900218
Security Seal Double Wire, not double wrap - Soz!
Security Seal Double Wire, not double wrap - Soz!
Thanks Mel.
Anyone know where to find that wire mesh in the States?
Door screens?
Thought about that - but doesn't seem like that would hold if rolled up. I'd love the look of it rolled into a roll. I'll see what is out there :) love the vid!
Metal screen mesh. There are two type metal and synthetic.
Does anyone in the states know what this "double wrap security wire" would be called here? I look it up but can't find the same stuff he uses.
Try "security seal wire", that's what it was called on my Australian search.
anybody got a link I can use for the double wrapped security wire in the US? I've only found one roll on Ebay and it's 20 bucks but I don't know if it's the right stuff..it looks like but it's the only real option that does and forget finding it on amazon without it being amazon.uk..where I live there aren't a lot of hobby stores and pretty much none of them sell the premade 'barbed wire' for models and stuff..I got a Hobby Lobby and a Micheal's but that's about it for my neck of the woods.
This dude reminds me of the "noice" dude
"Yea"
Yeah?. Yeah.
Aren't you the tic tac guy?
Yes, that was me
well like it got do it get sume and rust it out its almost thr 4th and ho noy good you lost that one see youz sun day ]]]]]
Say "yeah" one more time...I dare you.
wars are not games
god does not exist. I suggest you escape that cult you are in.