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Very, very true man. sometimes people just get hated on and the ball just rolls. Jonny is a champion though there is no doubt. His heart is devoted to the game.
I'm Irish and I have to say he is without a doubt the best Fly Half of all time, I mean it's not a coincidence that England just happened to reach the world cup final when Wilkinson was playing. That England team was playing terrible Rugby leading up to the tournament and then went to shit again when he left.
wilkonsin,BEST OUT HALF OF ALL TIME PERIOD.
A chest press not a bench press. But you have to love Johnny
Any comparison is unfair. Carter is becoming the all completed fly half the game will have ever seen, his composure and game management even when he's having off day is outstanding.
Giteau is an exciting player on the rise. Let's not forget he's played several position (12,9) and is finally finding his foothold at 10. He is not quite the finished article.
Wilko is just a shining example for all sportsmen in any code. Let's not forget he spent 4 out of 10 years injured.
He was 23/24 in 2003 - and he trained incredibly hard. Plus after the world cup he learnt to relax a bit more. If he hadn't been injured so much he'd have kept improving. He's never really had a long run of game time since 2003. Although he definitely contributed to his injuries through overtraining and tackling very hard.
Bench Press Machines allow you to keep perfect form, and it's alot safer because you don't really need a spotter.
I prefer traditional stuff though.
To be honest, I wouldn't even say we played GOOD in 2003 when we won it or indeed, pulled any trees up when we got to the final last time. The utcome though doesn't lie! Brian Ashton will still be in stitches! Everyone I knew in England was negative about him yet we still got to a final, compare that with the state of our game now with the so called "Mega God" Johnno???? I actually love the guy but IMO he has a thankless task due to the reasons I gave earlier in this post. We need to wake up!!!
Thank you, its nice to know there are some nice people out there.
@LBRproductionsSP2 its some stability thing, you shake it and it puts a shit load of force back onto you. they're really good.
whoever compared carter's tries to wilko's just shoots your agrument in the foot really. It emphasises even more how great a kicker he is if he can be world record points scorer with only 6 tries.
Mate I was talking about the last World Cup in 07. England were struggling to win games in the six nations, then Wilkinson came back for the World Cup where they reached the final, he got injured shortly after and England started loosing matches again.
"he wants to be the best player there has ever been," he already is.
leave it out mate, jonny is a legend though. I base my kicking routines around the best.
Johnny Wilkinson is one the best flyhalves ever. Better than Carter on defense, but Carter probably has the better attacking game.
@stevenbissett
Dan Carter said that Wilkinson was the best in the world and set the standard. Horses for courses, they are both the 2 best 10s from 2000-2010 :D
Its called a body blade for your core & shoulder stability.
You make a good point mate.
Lets hope he helps gets us over the line in an amazing Tri-nations
@RupertNorth you don't know if he's warming up or backing off or anything. he might have had an injury to that area and is doing a light set. He doesn't look like he's struggling.
In terms of single achievement, JW has the trump card. He's got a RWC winner's medal, DC doesnt. But in terms of overall achievement, DC's got it.
He is the tankiest five eight in rugby
nice guy
I hate all the peeps bragging about how much they can lift and all their impressive stats etc !!!!
I mean i'm 8 ft 6 inches and do ma curls with 2 small cars, oh yeh and i've got an enormous love truncheon !!!
@RupertNorth fair enough man.
He has achieved more than Carter has, but dont forget, those achievments are a team effort and the Kiwis are chokers haha.. I think they are almost on par Carter better on attack and Wilkinson better on defense, but who would you pick, if you were the coach and could have one or the other??
Tough one, but I would go for Carter by the smallest of margins. Both great players though!
Well, no wonder his shoulder got screwed. The strength curve and movement "plane" on this machine is completly out of kilter! I love Jonny's work ethic, he's a real role model BUT his loyalty to Newcastle and Blackie held him up, even knocked him back ay times IMO. Will be intersting to see how he performs and looks fitness wise in France. I think it'll do him the world of good, shame it's taken so long!
@JTudders you guessed right,well done
it's not his fault he is injury prone. Johnny is amazing though
@mattorpaul1 funny considering how the world record for squatting is 1250 lbs
@stevenbissett i agree my friend, wilkinson is no dan carter, wilkinson has no running game, carter has thats the difference
just so good he can touch mc hammer
it's all good winning tours but when you win a world cup i'll take it back
this dude is strong but the machine makes it easiet
not sure, but it looks like a tube that vibrates... maybe you have to keep it still, conditioning the muscles. not sure though!
@gabenewall22 oh yeah im still waiting for you to show me how your comment was in the slightest intellectual
is this prior to his shoulder injuries ? I know he underwent at least two shoulder surgeries on his shoulder so I was wondering if he was able to be 100% back to his shape...
@markgoffeney what ever lets you sleep at night ;)
wilko never was or never will be the best tackler in the world have u ever heard of CHABAL?
@MultiTrollHunter i doubt theirs a single rugby player who can lift as much as ronnie coleman
wait.. who made it to the final?
wait.. who went out in the quarter finals?
wait.. who lost to france?
wait.. who beat france?!?!?!
Reverse grinder, good idea!
@thomsocaca think he was being sarcastic mate...
@bobmatthewsJNR you need to work on how much 140kg is mate. 140kg = 22 stone. and i havnt seen jonny tackle a 22 stone man, ive seen him tackle a 18 and 19 stone guys, but 22 kg?! thats a prop forwards weight and i havnt seen him do that but anyway you are right about everything else
u think he couldve been btr that wat he was in 2003? wow that would be scary. how old was he then?. maybe he got injured from takling so hard which made him the great player he is
just look up his hits and then o gara s. o garacany tackle.wallace does it 4 him. where u from. wales or scotland?
wtf sort of plates are those? never seen any like them before.... anyone know how much he is pressing? i very much doubt they are 45lb plates....could be wrong though.
@RupertNorth i wouldnt at all be surprised if he can bench around 160, i know for a fact that dan carter of the all blacks can bench around 150, carter's a little cmaller than jonny,
whats that stick thing hes using in the last bit of the video
wilkinson is a very good tackler, especially compared to chabal? chabal can't even play rugby? he just runs into people and to me that requires no skill, just a body like some caveman. he's nobody to look up to, however, jonny is. especially because of his dedication to the sport and the huge amount of talent he has. go jonny :) and i hope he gets better soon.
yeah, that's right, a pro rugby player such as JW has 'side-stepped' the all blacks, pretending to be injured so he doesn't have to face dan carter. that's a very informed point of view. how thick can you be?
How much was he actually lifting?
Wha-?!?!? How does it work?
and most unlucky. The only way most other fly halfs are able to compare to him is because he missed most of his peak years through injury.
@paullovrey who exactly are you insulting and why?
He won't be able to lift that much if you put those weights on a barbell. Chest press machines make it a lot easier.
richie mccaw is a good tackler but lima you have probably just seen a few good tackles that doesnt means hes the best tackler in the world look at chabals ratio for missed tackles then ull agree!
you started by saying JW is faking injury because he's scared of the all blacks and doesn't want to play them, but that he'll be back for england after these tests.
now we see that he says he's not bothered about playing for england anymore.
so you were wrong.
really?! thought that nz laughed at o gara.
Yes, the damn RFU are sad! I can tell you as an Englishmen that the game needs an overhaul from the TOP. Rid the game of the money grabbing, gin swilling characters that are the outdated RFU, including the ridiculous appt of Andrew, and bring some pro-active thinkers in again. Reduce the number of games, up the intensity and as Graham Henry said last week and I have been saying for the past few years, STOP allowing an influx of Southern Hem players coming over here for their pension?!?!
why are so many people using this video as a shit reason to tell everyone how much they bench... nobody gives a shit how much you bench press. Alot of rugby players, like josh lewsey, never even did bench press and he'd fuck you guys up royally. It's not like it even matters whether you can bench more than jonny either, chances are he's probably a bit better at rugby than you.
Johnny was good. Carter is ok.
Both have NOTHING on Giteau!
Completely and utterly incorrect.
Firstly, I disagree with Wilkinson being the best fly half of all time, I believe he would be in the latter half of a top 10 of all time (if that). But that is just opinion.
However what you said about Englands form before the world cup? Wrong.
England went into the world cup as one of the favourites after winning their first grandslam since 1995 followed up by wins against NZ and Australia.
Their form was amazing before the world cup. That is a fact.
I'm only 4 and I can lift a bus.
@TheSuperfreak1234 looks like his ears threw up xD
@gabenewall22 its not hard to get like olympic gymnasts, are you just someone who cant build muscle so says everyone else is on roids because they can? ive seen people get to the size of these gymnasts and as ripped as them within under a year its not hard, just need determination
4kg
What about their pricks?
wait.. world cup? choke
@rnthemachine ...and that's not much weight at all.
kg or pounds?
@looknfortruth Surely a "real man" like you should have no problem finding HIS OWN woman?
@mattorpaul1 guess you dont get to the gym much,tell the mrs if she wants a real man to give me a shout
@thecallan008 hes not even 90kg bro.. even short ass dan cater is 93..
i won't argue with that. you're formidable competitors.
but i will say you bottle it when it matters most - i.e. in world cup knock-out stages.
and i will say that calling martin johnson and jonny wilkinson cowards and then relying on the reputation of your national rugby team to defend yourself is a bit sad.
@mattorpaul1 oh yeah ?! pfff, I'm 8feet tall, weigh 310kgs and I can bench press England ! So you're not so special afterall !
mate that makes no sense
@TheBruiser012 nope, nope, nope and nope
try harder
@markgoffeney lol
need to work on your grammar there bro :)
Yeh but he cant say fit for shit, DC is such a better player!
@gabenewall22 ok then whatever you say. so your saying that all these players are on drugs that the agencies have either never heard of, or are out of your system so quick that you are never caught. go on then what is this amazing drug because no one ever gets caught? and drug tests are random aswell?? are you abit jelous of these athletes? just making accusations saying they use roids with no proof, kind of pathetic tbh. no gymnasts are like they are because they train everyday,
ur eng and u think rog wud smash him? weird
Dan Carter is better.
I'm sure he is quite strong- but they are not real bench presses. Jonny, man up and put some weight on a bar mate!!
forget about living on the hopes of the last world cup. sure we lost credit to the french.
but look at england now?care to explian how you can play good only once evry 4 years?
sure mcrae was lying on top of him hitting him. O'Gara probably didnt even know what hit him. They were gay ass cheap shots. O'Gara is one of the most talented players around and others get jealous. Even tho im Irish I have to admit that Wilkinson is class and has scored many more points than O'Gara per game. But the Ireland team, until this year, always scored enough to win the match, whereas the england teams wilkinson were on scored as many points as possible. O;Gara is better than both ATM
well then change ur fuckin home page from saying ur from the uk. o gara has more points cause wilko has been injured
@0910dc gives me 10 lines of his own opinions and expects me to read it
come back when you have actually proof that Olympic athletes. so you are implying that gymnasts are caught all the time for this sought of thing, maybe if you actually read something and stop spending all day making yourself look like an idiot on youtube, you might actually be able to challenge me intellectually
sebastian chabal is the most overrated player in the french game
@gabenewall22 challenege you intelectually? this is you "come back when you have actually proof that olympic athletes" also "sought of thing"? i think you mean *sort hahaahha. that doesnt even make sense. haha why not read my opinion, i made some good points? i never said they are caught all the time, im saying that they simply dont take roids and neither do rugby players, your the one who insists every athlete in the world uses roids regularly. you actually are making no sense
no-one thinks yours funny