Its nice to see charity at work. The poor bloke has been injured for so long they gave him a try that never was! Fantastic player, great run but what is the point in having a video ref when they get things so badly wrong?
even though im english, i have a slight feeling the TMO gave this cos this was Jonnys comeback game, but hey we won, he played amazingly, dont think you could ask for a better come back
That's true, but Jonny's foot was just as much in touch as Cueto's was dont u think? Both tries should have been allowed or both should have been disallowed in my opinion. It all depends on the ref unfortunately.
The lack of people on here complaining about supposed bias from Brian Moore is shocking. Normally the celts love to bemoan Moore's opinion of anything which went against their team, but when he criticises a decision in England's favour you all disappear. Where are you? Where are the accusations of bias?
if you watch it again you will see that it should of been a penalty try because the Scotland player didn't tackle Wilkinson and instead pushed him preventing a clear try scoring opportunity.
Its annoying when the video ref make the wrong call eh? Keeping the last world cup final in mind for all you Englishmen...what goes around comes around!
I didn't mean ignored by the commentators, I mean after the game the media failed to even mention it. I suppose it is the same with all decisions that go for a team, especially in a situation like that one where it did not matter, but I always feel with the BBC it is more pro-english in general.
Even though I'm Scottish there was a little bit of me that wanted him to be awarded the try. He's had so much shit luck and works so hard, if anyone deserves it he does.
except his right foot is clearly touching the ground and is in touch before he grounds the ball. definitely not a try. oh, and I'm english before anyone starts excusing me of bias.
shows it in slow mo hand on the ball, ball on teh ground arm not touching the flag try as far as anyone, with sense and not from a bitter biased view point, would agree
it wasnt a try but who cares? we were wll ahead anyway. and was wilkinson's england comeback after 4 years. so long as the TMOs never get sentimental when it actually matters then meh
TOO RIGHT! To all you silly little Scottish plebs (AND ENGLISH!!! - I'm English myself!) get the fuck over it! I love the Scots! Probably more so than I do the English! But I really can't understand why the Scots have such a thing about hating the English!! Majority of us couldn't give a sod, anyway. But to be honest I'd be rooting for the Scots over the English in a match any day! :D
consecutive world champions for what? oh and btw scotland do have a cricket team... however theres lacks the full support and strength of the english side as it is not as big a sport for them... and leest they are not fully into cricket and travel down to australia to lose the ashes in a 5-0 whitewash...
the legs and basically only go into touch if you run out or slide out and wilkinson did neither of those. wilkinson's leg was in the air which is classed as not going into touch, so therefor is a try!
The USA aint got a great rugby team at the moment. but is it just me who thinks the team they play isnt the best they could put out? how many people are there that dont quite make pro American football. say what u like about the USA but they have got loads of great athletes. A few years and some decent support and they're guna have the strongest and definately the fastest rugby team in the world, and from then its just becoming used to rugby. Look out for the USA i say. btw go on ENGLAND!!
Well 2 b honest he dont deserve it. he woz bleedin n shud not hav been on da pitch. i think it woz just the video ref scared that he wud b mocked by sassenach media 4 goin aginst someone famous.
As in im not referring to just football, now i have not said anything offensive yet, but the comment you just made was. nd as fer wife beating, have you met scottish women.
I’ve seen as many bad TMO decisions go for England as I have seen go against them. It just so happens that the bad TMO decisions *against* England were both in RWC finals vs RSA. Cuetos was a try. RSA were standing up in the scrum yesterday, RSA should have had a yellow for 3 consecutive penalties under sustained England pressure, RSA should never have had that TMO try awarded.
I cannot belieeeve that they allowed that try but didn't allow Cueto's in the World Cup final. That is heartbreaking. *bangs head on table*.
If only we had that TMO in the world cup final.
Still the best of all time and he played amazing that day 3 years after his last appearance. Still going strong in 2013.
That's awful! How was that awarded? XD haha, I love Wilko and England but that was a shocking call from the TMO.
Its nice to see charity at work. The poor bloke has been injured for so long they gave him a try that never was! Fantastic player, great run but what is the point in having a video ref when they get things so badly wrong?
i dont think jonny thought it was a try either
hes such a god of a player he even has the power to manipulate the viedeo refs mind
That is clearly in touch.
A shocking decision 0_o
even though im english, i have a slight feeling the TMO gave this cos this was Jonnys comeback game, but hey we won, he played amazingly, dont think you could ask for a better come back
Ellis, Wilkinson, Corry and Vickery saved that England side from a wooden spoon that year. The RFU drove English rugby into the ground unfortunately.
Brian Moore states that his right foot was in touch and that it shouldn't be a try.
You have a strange agenda.
Ha,the ref didn't here it right,the fella said NAY!!!award the try
brian ashton looks happy lol
They're both exactly the same tbh, but i think patterson is better, he didn't miss one in the world cup.. He was the only player to achieve that
i was right next to the pitch on the day and i can tell you ... no try!
That's true, but Jonny's foot was just as much in touch as Cueto's was dont u think? Both tries should have been allowed or both should have been disallowed in my opinion. It all depends on the ref unfortunately.
OMG! lol! I'ma English fan but his foot was in touch sooooo bad....no no no try! x
Harry Ellis with that snipey snipe...well Scotland's flankers were helpful that day
Maravilloso Jonny, ojalá en España tuviesemos alguien como el. Viva el Rugby.
How did they cheat there? The fact that the referees decided to award the try has nothing to do with England.
When you say "too beautiful to forbid it" ... however, I think that was the TMO's career ending
The lack of people on here complaining about supposed bias from Brian Moore is shocking. Normally the celts love to bemoan Moore's opinion of anything which went against their team, but when he criticises a decision in England's favour you all disappear. Where are you? Where are the accusations of bias?
if you watch it again you will see that it should of been a penalty try because the Scotland player didn't tackle Wilkinson and instead pushed him preventing a clear try scoring opportunity.
England deserved to win no argument there BUT that WAS NOT A TRY, SIMPLE!!
Harry Ellis- what a player. Injury prevented us seeing the best of him.
I never said it was english rugby fans, i was refering to english fans in general, particularly football.
He is such a legend
Its annoying when the video ref make the wrong call eh? Keeping the last world cup final in mind for all you Englishmen...what goes around comes around!
I didn't mean ignored by the commentators, I mean after the game the media failed to even mention it. I suppose it is the same with all decisions that go for a team, especially in a situation like that one where it did not matter, but I always feel with the BBC it is more pro-english in general.
It WAS a try. A wrongly awarded try, but it was still a try.
At no point in this conversation have i ever mentioned football.
i know it shouldnt of been a try but it was still preety cool...
Johnnny the legend!
look i am engllish his foot was in touch before the ball was grounded no try allthough it didnt affect the end results as england slayed the jocks
im english. clearly not a try. 1:45 his right foot hits the ground before the ball
i dont know what everones complaint is here...the try was awarded so just deal with it.
Scotland should be glad we used a jonny ;)
How could you give a try.
But then that guy didn't look he been away.
Even though I'm Scottish there was a little bit of me that wanted him to be awarded the try. He's had so much shit luck and works so hard, if anyone deserves it he does.
Don't worry scotland we'll use a jonny!
i'm English and not proud but even i would support the Country i am part of!! (plus America dont play Rugby so i cant support them!)
Chris Patterson is now officially better.
except his right foot is clearly touching the ground and is in touch before he grounds the ball. definitely not a try.
oh, and I'm english before anyone starts excusing me of bias.
shows it in slow mo
hand on the ball,
ball on teh ground
arm not touching the flag
try as far as anyone, with sense and not from a bitter biased view point, would agree
the ref thth gave wilkinsons try was irish so thth explains it all
thats a definate try! well done wilko!
Wilkinson the best !
could we swap this decision for the one in 07?
it wasnt a try but who cares? we were wll ahead anyway. and was wilkinson's england comeback after 4 years. so long as the TMOs never get sentimental when it actually matters then meh
man his right foot was out a fracion of a second before trying. bu ok whatever
TOO RIGHT!
To all you silly little Scottish plebs (AND ENGLISH!!! - I'm English myself!) get the fuck over it!
I love the Scots! Probably more so than I do the English! But I really can't understand why the Scots have such a thing about hating the English!! Majority of us couldn't give a sod, anyway. But to be honest I'd be rooting for the Scots over the English in a match any day!
:D
consecutive world champions for what?
oh and btw scotland do have a cricket team...
however theres lacks the full support and strength of the english side as it is not as big a sport for them...
and leest they are not fully into cricket and travel down to australia to lose the ashes in a 5-0 whitewash...
TRY
Outragiously awsome play! Such a shame it was only against scotland
nooooooooo
was a bit of irish sterotyping sayin they were daft
carter is good but wilkinson is better!
how the fuck did you come up with that conclusion.
Disgusting, no way a try, cant believe that was given!
no try are you blind? that is unreal!
the legs and basically only go into touch if you run out or slide out and wilkinson did neither of those. wilkinson's leg was in the air which is classed as not going into touch, so therefor is a try!
123VinchenIsHere you sound cool. I wish Germany had won th semi final in WC 2006 against Italy. Germans are cool. wooooooooooh
yea that was not a try, sorry bout that it was my bro
Why say England vs Scotland? Why not say Jonny Vs Scotland!!!
The USA aint got a great rugby team at the moment.
but is it just me who thinks the team they play isnt the best they could put out? how many people are there that dont quite make pro American football. say what u like about the USA but they have got loads of great athletes. A few years and some decent support and they're guna have the strongest and definately the fastest rugby team in the world, and from then its just becoming used to rugby. Look out for the USA i say.
btw go on ENGLAND!!
What are you scottish
Sensational from Jonny
there is clearly no try
haha chin up
Wilkinson had the worst game of his life. Oh good to see
haha im not complaining but appaling decision lol
oh yea, aye didnt think of tht one
yea shouldn't been, even thou it kills me to say it
Football - Kirin Cup
Rugby - 5 nations
Cricket is fer poofs
rules r rules cuetos foot touched the line therefore he was out
sorry, paul thorburn was better than jono, but hes right there in second!
Yeah mate, yeah... that's exactly it... lol, shutup, dinlo.
I did not say all english fans.
PISS OFF IT IS A TRY :D
well done babe x
The TMO decided it was a try.
It's like in cricket, when the umpire gives an LBW decision 'Out', then it's out. Regardless how controversial it is.
Well 2 b honest he dont deserve it. he woz bleedin n shud not hav been on da pitch. i think it woz just the video ref scared that he wud b mocked by sassenach media 4 goin aginst someone famous.
it was but shudnt have been
As in im not referring to just football, now i have not said anything offensive yet, but the comment you just made was. nd as fer wife beating, have you met scottish women.
it was a awesome try
W T F.. Foot was down!!
Do they pay these refs to win old England.
Cya @ World cup ;)
Hope Ireland or France owns 6N
3:14 :)
i said it was a try lolz
that was not a try
nice one Be sure to check out my Wilko tribute!!
no try
but wilkinson owns nevertheless
Scotland couldn't have won anyhow
why bother
no try tmo failed again
one world cup in football and rugby with 2 world wars proud 2 be english ha ha ha and yu ferigns cnt take us winnin the world cup ha ha
lol
I’ve seen as many bad TMO decisions go for England as I have seen go against them. It just so happens that the bad TMO decisions *against* England were both in RWC finals vs RSA.
Cuetos was a try. RSA were standing up in the scrum yesterday, RSA should have had a yellow for 3 consecutive penalties under sustained England pressure, RSA should never have had that TMO try awarded.
Oh grow up.
try or no try, you scots still would have got ur asses kicked. england are bigger. better. stronger. end of.
not a try
lol that is definetly a try. your probably only saying it isnt because your welsh or something...
no es valido
yeh that was definitely a try
c'est scandaleux