Suboxone vs Methadone? (From Experienced User)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I discuss the main differences of Suboxone and Methadone for opioid addiction. I have experience taking both, this is what I personally think.
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Legit thanks. Been there done that. But 9 years and I hate doing this. So ridiculous.
oh, right away!!! Who do I make the check out to? do you accept Master Card? "with enough $$$, I can cure you"
Derek Lambert Hey Derek, would you mind making a video explaining the differences between Suboxone vs. Subutex? Please, thank you in advance! You are the man bro! 💯
Bro just found your channel!! We have a VERY similar story but I used the vivitrol. Keep up the good work.
@@atheistmetal1 Dose he really charge money for helping other people?
100% accurate on wanting to be clean while you’re high and wanting to get high when you are withdrawing
So true bro! Everyone has best of intentions when they have a bag of pills/dope but for me, when I took that last pill, I fucking panicked and my addiction took over and my promise to start the wd was quickly replaced by running to my dealer. It’s powerful, this opiate thing!
Yep thats as on point as it gets
yea it‘s your consciousness shining through the high and the addicted mind and body that screams for more and weakens you, I figured to get clean I will need to gather enough willpower to go through withdrawal
It's easy to quit when you're high
@@night1247 then you have more willpower than most, bro. I'm on Methadone for life because it makes going through withdrawals unneccessary.
One day at a time I've had enough of drugs I was on methadone hard to come off but I done it 21 years clean and sober now thank God good luck to all 🙏🏻🙏🏻
All glory and praise to the lamb who was slain!
...and rose today! GOD BLESS
That's the golden line.... "They 100% work, if used properly".
Great video. This is my favorite one of your videos so far!!! I've been saying this for so long, it feels validating to hear someone else say the same thing. Thanks Derek! Keep making videos. You're so relatable and you are spreading hope to so many people. You're a soldier in the war on addiction and we need all we can get.
Methadone saved my life. I was a serious heroin addict. I started out on pain meds and it progressed to heroin. I found out I was pregnant and the day I found out I went straight to a detox place but they wouldn't take me bc I was pregnant and told me I had to go on methadone bc it was the safest way to detox while pregnant. So I started on methadone and my daughter was born healthy. I had planned on going back to heroin after she was born but that all changed bc the methadone helped. I had my life back. I took some meds in the morning and the rest of the day I felt normal. Once you get ready and you wean off the right way very slowly ... you can come out on the other side. I'm 7 years clean and sober now!! It can work.
Brittany Miller you’re clean from the methadone too?? I just started the clinic I’m on 50mg of methadone I don’t wanna dose higher because I’m scared I won’t be able too taper off the methadone I don’t want it too take years
@@wadehubbard5733 yes. You need to go to the dose that you feel normal. Meaning no withdrawal symptoms. But you dont want to start feeling sleepy after you take it that means you are too high up on the dose. I had to go up bc I was pregnant. When I started tapering I was at 100 mgs. I did it really slow over 2 years and I mean slow slow. I was fine. So do what you need to right now and just know if you go at snails pace to come off it doesnt matter what dose you are at. Sometimes it's also a mind thing so you can ask to blind dose. But good luck it saved my life.
I don't know what to do I've been on 16 mg of suboxone for 2 months and I keep using cause it doesn't seem to help or alleviate any withdrawal symptoms at all. I've tried switching over to methadone twice now but doc says there trying to steer away from that but I wanna get off fentanyl so fucking bad but I just can't take the withdrawals
@@RylanInChains tell them how you feel about the suboxone
@@RylanInChains no wonder suboxone doesn't work with fentanyl in your system. You have to be clean from fetty for a week before you jump on subs. Methadone is the only thing that works for fetty w/d
I was addicted to opiates for 3 years and could never quit than I discovered suboxone. I took suboxone for 6 years and than I started a slow taper. For me personally suboxone was easy to come off of because I was ready and I’m so grateful to finally wake up in the mornings without being in withdrawal. I think suboxone is a wonderful medication, and the time frame of which you’re on it is entirely based on where your heads at and your cravings but once you’re sick of taking it don’t be afraid of withdrawal because if you taper correctly you should be okay, everyone is different though and will have different experiences, that’s just mine. Remember you have the strength, you don’t have to be imprisoned by a drug. I think sobriety feels pretty damn good.
I could use some of your positivity. I was on two 8mg subs a day for years. I messed around and relapsed and started taking what I thought was 30mg oxy but was actually straight fentanyl...Did those for about 2weeks and tried to stop and start taking my subs again and oh he'll no!! Sent me straight into precipitated withdrawal... I have never experienced anything so awful ...So then I went down and got on methadone....So now I'm on 90 mgs a day plus taking up to seven 30mg oxy with fentanyl but I am headed to detox this week to stop, cold turkey, no taper, long enough to transition to subs....I am terrified....Can it be done? This fentanyl is a whole different ball game..
@Candice Harper It can be done, find the strength within. You will experience some withdrawal transitioning to suboxone as you know but let that be that last withdrawal from fentanyl. Let that be the last time you ever go through that again. Stay on suboxone for as long as you need to, get away from anyone you used to buy from or use with. Or anyone who's not supportive of your recovery. Change your number and delete certain people from social media. Find a healthy support system and set goals, start living for adventure not highs. If you're a believer begin a relationship with God. Read his word, it'll guide your soul. Stay consistent with positive change and watch your life change. Someday you'll look back and be so grateful that you're no longer living in hell. Being an addict is a tough life, it's exhausting. Life is waiting for you. Work your program and don't give up. The only thing fentanyl will offer you is death or an institution. Recovery will offer you life and freedom. I wish you the best of luck friend ♡
AGREE WITH YOU 100%from a first hand....👌😊🍀🖖👋
AWESOME advice in ur vids. Keep up the REALNESS BRAH 💯. Just came across u last night and u have a new loyal fan!
I love watching videos like yours they help people lost the fear of what's going to happen next , if we have the strength to persuade the need of stopping etc. We all can do it and stop loosing our love ones. We all are important and I love you even though I don't know you. Together we can make a difference in this world. Thanks for sharing your history also for being in there for anyone. I will love to help as well. Blessings to all🙏✨🙏💖
Hey big homie I thought the same thing my first time at the methadone clinic. I seen 50, 60, 70 year old dudes waiting in line to get that medicine. I knew I didn't want to stay on that shit the rest of my life. Props man. 👊
This made me feel so much better. thank you, you're awesome and hope your doing well!
Your story is almost exactly like mine ,I'm an alcoholic and I've been on sub for over 10 years.Good for you,glad you're doing good today🙂
Same here , the subs I’m on now along with other medicine is helping me tremendously with alcohol cravings !!! I’ve been on every drug there is , but alcohol was definitely my biggest demon and is most definitely the worst on your health and mind !!!!! Being on subs everyday is much better than putting the bottle to my lips and ruining my life , wasting the time away ! Anyway take care , God bless you on your journey and recovery. Btw I have to be honest and mention that you are very beautiful 😊
If you can get on sublocade, easy to dose off and stay clean because it dissipates so slowly in your system over time. Plus no maintenance, so its really good mentally that way.
Support is real. Continue this ministry G.u R victory.
Well put brother.....everyday is a battle after becoming an addict its an everyday struggle but you nailed it been clean for 5 years now...... NC is where I'm at too great vid broham
Thank you for the video, it truly does help seeing somebody else that made it thru, I'm on day 12 being sub free and Its still hell
Thanks bro listening to you helps me take it day by day. I’m on day 5 of being clean it’s sux so bad but it can only get better.
Thx for your wisdom brotha, hope all is well with you these days 🙏
I’m in recovery, myself, and I work at a women’s drug/alcohol treatment center. I’m all for medication assisted recovery. I’ve seen how it keeps my girls sober. It doesn’t get them high but it fills those receptors so they don’t want to go find that high. I’m a recovering opiate addict but Subutex, Suboxone, and Methadone weren’t available in my area when I got sober. I’m living proof that someone can get and stay sober without meds but there is definitely a place in recovery for these lifesaving medications. Thanks so much, Derek, for your videos. I watch them at home and also with my girls when I’m at work. You’re making a real difference in the world.
Appreciate your work in recovery and helping people
Facts bro...life is hard and we all want to feel ok....i am switching from methadone to suboxone now and the transition has been hard because i did not wait long enough....but bro...to be dopesick....it just doesnt get any worse.....life is hard but Im determined...nice work sir.
Im in NC as well man good to hear your story it's encouraging. I've jus started Suboxone this month to get off heroin.. having the same issues of trying to abuse at first but now I take it as intended it's all in your mindset I believe nd if u want to be sober and not get high these meds WILL work. Keep up the good work I subscribed
Thank you, one love!
How long did you wait to take the sub i keep getting precipitated withdrawl i cant get past induction and the sub clinic wont prescribe the straight bup without naloxone
@@jessicablaze8721 generally u can take bupe 24 hours after using opiates & not go into wds....if u try to use opiates after taking sub you will barely feel any high at all because bupe blocks the receptors. Message me if u want to talk, I'm 4 months clean now, that comment was while back
Wait atleast 24 from h some have to wait 30 and even meet a person that could take it after 12. Everyone body is defrent. Most people go i feel bad time to take no and repeat no. We always think we sick enough but honestly i personally recommend you use the cows score. Look it up but its a way to judge if ur withdrawal is to the point where u can safely take suboxone.
@@taleahparsons571 i wait 7-8 hours to take my subs after dosing 120mg - 300mg of oxy. I take a .5 of bupe and dose the same amount every half hour until i feel better
Hey Derek God bless you and your language you really know how to explain and review your inside to the outside this is a trick for addicts so believe me when I say you are reaching people that are unreachable keep going brother salute to you. Inspirational
Sounds like you were describing sleep paralysis. I’ve experienced the same thing a few times. It’s definitely a freak out moment
Finally finding somebody to tell the truth about what they feel
Great video thank you I'm so proud of you and helping others
Awesome video! I appreciate your honesty and insight. Opioid addiction is no joke. I've been allowed to do another oxy taper, but as I get lower, it's so hard. Tirms like this make me almost wanna go back on subs or maybe try methadone. I don't know though... Sub detox was rough and I think partly stretched out my opioid receptors because one I got off, I started doing more oxy than ever and then the H took over. I've even done ibogaine twice and I'm still addicted... Sweet sweatshirt BTW, where's it from?
Thank bro,.,I'll be praying for you!
I so much appreciate your input.
I know exactly what you mean about the methadone and it freaked me out too. Only took 20 mg for a couple days straight and the last time it felt like I was coming out of my body- not in a good way, in a way that made me feel like I was dying. Never touched it again. Now on 10mg a day suboxone and I feel my life has been saved.
Admire your honesty and thank you for sharing.. Im on 18 m of Espranor and it’s not lasting me the day. tired, grumpy no enthusiasm but petrified of coming off. was addicted to pain killers Tramdol🇬🇧
That’s how it all started with me tramadol 😭 I’m of subs and I tell you I wish I staid on tramadol than subs are worst to get off
Ive been on methadone for 4 years but Ive only been doing very well for 2 years....I dont use any hard drugs anymore and I have zero desire too either. Honestly I dont mind being on methadone, I also was a severe heroin addict for so long I am cautious about getting off. Ill take my time. I think people who want me to rush off want me to do so for their own comfort, not whats best for me.
Its Rocky !! Great fucking vid bro !! Day 3
Hello a very informative video, I really needed to hear this....
Methadone has saved my life.
Great video. Your lucky the buprenorphine didn't knock you into wd that first. Doctor was terribly misinformed. The buprenophine has a high binding affinity and will knock full agonist opioids off the receptros, forcing the user into excruciating withdrawal. Precipitated withdrawal is so agonizing it finally made me break the cycle and stop using. Blessing in disguise I guess. Glad to see you're doing good. Stay well, brother!
is that why i was in so much pain? i went to rehab for fent and was sick n when i took the subs i legit was in so much pain compared to before.
@@SmurfFree Yeah. If the Suboxone didn't bring you relief it means you took it too early. It sucks
@@SmurfFree hell yeah it is the worse than withdrawal itself and it's immediate. Nothing you can do except keep going and be sick until the sub finally does its job or just keep being sick. Either way your going to be sick for a grip
@MarkJude-ex6jg haha I've never used any of those except MDMA. I always had pleasant experiences with MDMA.
Been on suboxone a few months now . Always a constant battle between u and ur mind . That’s what’s up u left ur number to help others .. I’ve been on methadone for 2yr before too 100mg and trust it is the LAST THING U WANT TO KICK FROM . I had to start using again to get on to suboxone . And still put myself thru precipitated withdraw lol. Fuck drugs dude . Stay up I know this 2 years old hope ur still clean G . We all in this together like u said stay ^ homie
Good on ya bro stay strong bro 😎
I'm on day 12 of zero subs. I've taken them as prescribed for the last five years. I've wanted off for at least a year. I got myself down to 2mg/day, and 1mg on my last two days.
For me, this has been ABSOLUTE HELL!!!!! I'm honestly caught off guard. I knew I'd be pretty sick for a good number of days, but I wasn't expecting it to be this bad for this long!!
I'm 42, I have 3 kids and 2 grandkids. My youngest son was burned pretty bad at age 12. My oldest has been in trouble since about 12, he's now 24, and is on his almost third year of a 10-20 year prison sentence.
Having said that, coming off these subs has been the hardest thing ive ever done.
The physical hell is, I'm praying, pretty much gone. It's in my head now and I have never felt such a profound sadness.
I will NEVER take anything that causes withdraw again!!!
I need to be there for my kids and grandkids, my son in prison especially, cause im the only one he has, and his two kids.
Even tho this is extremely hard, I feel proud of myself, and that's a feeling I haven't had in idk how long!!
No way in HELL I'm going back!! EVER!!!!!
I believe in you keep going stay strong Satan is always there always waiting for you to do wrong don't give him that satisfaction he has taken enough already
Yeah I'm on subs now. I've come off them before in jail. They are horrible. Hope u got off em
hey derek Lambert- thank you for addressing an important topic. I am dependent on methadone and will be, for the rest of my life. i'm ok with that. Why do most of the commenters have to get clean so damn bad? the withdrawl isn't worth it to me. 6 months of sleepless nights, terror, intense pain, paranoia, freezing cold. Kids: never use heroin or any opioid even if your in pain. don't lie.to them. yes, you TEMPORARILY feel better or high even, but it turns out to be the depths of frozen hell!!
the add part of me wanted to pull his other hoodie string dow to make it even with the other one the whoooole time
thank you for posting this...
You experienced sleep paralysis. It likely had very little to do with the methadone, and mostly to do with the addict lifestyle and having a regular sleep patterns.
I've been on methadone since Nov 2009 and the hardest thing for me to ask the nurse is "can I please come down today" which means they bring you down 5mg until your off and I'm stuck.. the words wanna come out.. but I'm so scared of my chronic pain that I deal with and scared of withdrawal symptoms that I just can't get the words😃 out of my mouth 😔 I got off before and when I got to 15mgs I started using.. I'm just so scared to come off or even lower my methadone because I'm doing so good I get take homes for weeks..which I earned by staying clean.. going back to college... so I don't know what to do....😔 thanks for your videos your channel is so helpful and encouraging 💜💜💜
It sounds like when you said you woke up and felt completely numb and couldn’t move was minor sleep paralysis. It’s a condition in lots of people.
Thanx for you're good work you have helped me for sure
OMG! U hit everything spot on!!!!!
Hey Derek. I agree totally with you on the “having your mindset” in check before u do suboxone. I had a doc that wrote me an rx and he wanted to keep me on it for a long time. Anyway, ended up abusing it, taking several doses to get high. That’s why I think it’s just better to go cold turkey and work through the good and the bad. Easier said than done. And hey, subs get you cleanER but not clean. Did u/do u ever attend iop/outpatient, inpatient? I did the iop route but kept using the kratom and didn’t really take it that seriously. Kratom lead me to more pills (never done H) and so I’m gonna face the man and go back to same iop bc it’s free this time. Kicking myself!
YeAh
Methadone fires work for real!!! I'm on the drink now since September. Finally have some carries built up and now I go weeks without thinking about shit.
that front porch and swing is so iconic for some reason.
I'm 5 years sober in NC as well!
Iv struggled for 5 years now and past year got put on a monthly injection of subuxon it’s called burpa ha morphine and av been clean now 3 months now it’s hard but we can all do it I’m just worried about coming off this monthly injection and a don’t think of having a charge at all nowadays and derek lambert your videos have helped me too see how other people are much the same xxx one love for you derek Elizabeth xxx
Good video!
Just thinking about the taste and smell of a Suboxone strip literally just made me nauseous. So so glad those days are behind me. NEVER AGAIN.
Yes it taste horrible
How bad was it quitting??
@@mattsmith819 BAD and I'm not saying that to discourage or scare anyone. I was not only doing heroin daily but was also using poppy seed tea as well. The withdrawal was quite literally hell and took much longer due to the tea. Suboxone only caused me to relapse every time and the only way I was able to find true success was going CT. After 4 years of attempting to get clean it has finally somehow stuck and I am closing in on 7 months clean from opiates. That said, I smoke cannabis like a mad man.
@@michaelknight4099 poppy seed tea? Never heard of it. Can it be purchased at a grocery store?
why do u have smelly strips.we have normal pills with lemon taste
I did cold turkey two times the first lasted 1,5 month and the second half year.....btw great video 👍🏼
I'm so happy for you,I'm trying to get off my oxycodone and is so hard.
Try subutex, I was on 90mg of oxy 17yrs.. I was off in 3 days ,zero withdrawal. Just be honest and follow through.
@@redline2655 are you still on subutex?
@@michaelspoto8720 Yes ,it's been a life saver. You email anytime if you have questions.
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@@redline2655 well I took subutex and it's making it worse
@@michaelspoto8720 I am and so far it's making it worse but I'm also was on methadone before not heroin
I'm coming off Methadone. It's really hard but Suboxone is much harder to come off and I never liked Suboxone. I know I am gonna be sick for like 4 months so I am really scared, but with Jesus Christ and the holy spirit you can make it through. God works for me to give me strength.
So how has your journey been? I hope you have had some success with your progress as your comment 4 years ago now but sometimes it takes a lot of time to bet it as doing it fast can work but doing over a long period can work better for the long run but anyway hope you and all others well on the journey of the Opiate fight for your better life
I'm going to start a methadone script Monday. How did you feel the first days on methadone? Did you rattle? Did you use on top of your meth? Did you have cravings? When did you start feeling normal?
Bless you bro
Hello from California recovering ,(maintenance)dope fiend. Thx for sharing story.
When I went from done to subs I had to wait that week also, it was hell. I just thank god that I kicked methadone and subs
I kicked subs
Awesome you kicked subs I am taper down and stop the insanity I'm sick of have to go pharmacies every week doctor alllways and it's a ball and chain . The system wants guys like me on this shit for life so they know where I am what I'm doing ect ect. Subs helped me get a life now time to kiss goodbye 😙 😘 and move on. It's great to see many others stop and get over the subs and methadone
I'm on methadone...down to 45 mg , once I got 30 I can transfer to subs. How long to I have to go without the done to get on subs?
@@AmericanPatriot4-19-95 in Canada they make you go a week or so no methadone before subs. You will get sick if you have methadone in system and you take subs. all opiates and methadone has to be outta ya. Maybe a few days but they make them go a week from guys I know here. Then if your wise and do not want ball and chain all your life, taper off subs fast you can get off subs quicker if you just do them for a few weeks. Do not build up a tolerance just do subs. Every few days and then stop completely. Or stay on for life of pharmacey and doctor routine up to you
@@eddiespagetti8395 my clinic told me to stop methadone for just 2 days and then start a day of subutex and then on the 4th day it's suboxone.....is this too soon?
I was over-weight.. I was getting ready to have gastric bypass. A friend of mine was eating supper with me. He was a smoker and told everyone over and over that he wanted to quit. He said to me, "Are you sure you want to have this surgery? You sure love to eat!" He was right, but I didn't want to feel like I had to eat. I was sick of being fat, but couldn't stop eating. I said to him, "If they had a surgery where it would stop you from smoking, you have it done, right?" He looked at the cigarette in his fingers, and said, "NO, I love to smoke too much." It surprised me, but I thought about it. It opened my eyes.
There are two kinds of addicts 1) those who will do anything to quit, they hate the life, hate the effects, but can't quit on their own, they need help, and 2) there are those that theoretically want to quit, IF they had a magic wand to take away all desire with no pain and no work.
I had the surgery and it was the best decision of my life. I have lost a hundred pounds and I'm going to the gym, but I'm still waiting for my first date. I used to be a ladies man, smooth talker, but not the douche dude. I'm only saying that to say this, those years of being fat zapped me of my confidence. My decline all started with a motorbike accident. I'm mostly fixed, after years of surgery and rehab, but in my head I'm still handicapped, so to speak.
I didn't mean to ramble. I'm from NC also. Carteret county. In Virginia Beach now
Hey Derek what's up, I'm from Philly and been on methodone about 8 months now my father jus died and left me four houses in Philly witch I wanna sell two buildings and travel ,but it feels like I'm stuck any suggestions ? Asking fir help ,oh and I don't gonna lie I'm still useing occasionally
I used to snort blues(30mg roxicodone) and eventually got into a methadone program in my city. It was a women’s inpatient rehab facility as well as opioid treatment program. I really liked it because I could dose and then go outside, smoke, and talk to people(mainly girls). There were also MA(Methadone Anonymous) meetings every weekday. I felt very engaged in my program. The clinic I go to now is kool and relaxed but nothing like the other.
Derek u hit it right on the nose with wanting to get clean not using but wanting to get high. The mind and the the willingness has to be there or we are doomed.
hello! was wondering what was the weaning process??? like the mg and how long you were on each dose til the end?
My clinic does a 30 day taper detox. Very rare to find but it's practically across the street from me and i can't do this cold Turkey anymore. Don't need the pain again
Why the 11 dislikes ? I don't understand it he's just trying to help people out
How come the subutex was crushed at the chemist? It only works if placed under tongue. Or snorted but that gets you in a mess.
4:06 weird how I felt exact same way after falling sleep on my back and woke up in a dream where I couldn’t move from neck down. After turning over that high was gone. Happened after taking suboxone for me not methadone.
please explain why you have to go get meds at 5 in the morning here in the uk we can go to any chemist of our choice at any time???
iv heard people say its like giving a alcholic a shandy for 5 years before they lower the dose . im at the end of my prescription
good guy knows his stuff . ive come of 15year shooting addiction but it was fun . sorry
I just started a medically assisted program with methadone to put me on a path of eventual sobriety. ✌🏼 I am also in North Carolina
Some people live with chronic pain my guy so if you don’t know what it’s like to live with RA or degen disc in your back then don’t knock people who been on the clinic for ten years or more.. I’m on 180 mg of methadone every day I get 13 bottles I only go to the clinic twice per month and I’m in New York it’s not free you have too have insurance for it to be free but if you don’t have insurance then your paying for it. I been on everything suboxene and subutex both of those medication killed my testosterone level for me methadone works the best and last the longest.. but everyone different.. I used to shoot subetex back in the day I was a mess but great video everyone has different experiences with meditation’s keep it up and always stay away from drugs
It's called sleep paralysis, it often happens in the morning on waking , I've suffered it on and off since a child a few times a year, I find it only happens if I sleep on my back.
Next time it happens call out to Jesus. It’s spiritual…His name will stop it
Derek have you ever thought about being a licensed substance abuse counselor? I think you'd do well.
Not sure anyone will read this now but my mother has been on opioids for back pain for years. The last 15 years she’s been on methadone for pain and now her doctor is switching her to suboxone. I just wonder if this will be a better drug and make her less unbearable. I can’t stand to be around her and her addiction now to methadone and alcohol is terrible. Any advice out there?
Thank you for your video and the information.
Very nice am a couple of months clean of a long run on the dope l watched many friends go the Suboxone route and new that was not for me one more ball and chain for me 8 days in a medical detox and then home and 20 or 30 sleepless nights later everyday got better it can be done like you said you have to have your head in it
Being from philly, the streets, everything is just filled with this. It’s horrible. We have so many programs which have helped me for a long time but never did it help me want to get off subs... went on methadone, detoxed, went on subs I finally stopped after 9 years and been off a few months and it’s been so bad. Literally don’t know how ppl do this.
YES!!! Even got certified in Hypnosis to help me REPROGRAM My Brain after losing my sister to a drunk driver. Before getting addicted to cola. I don't know what to do now I'm on Saboxone. Got therapy lined up, SIX more days. Mean while Spinal Stenosis pain KILLING me. Wish I had a doctor tell me what was in my future. So I could have made sound decisions & more careful with my meds. I'm screwed.
Pain pill addict for 15 years. Got on methadone, spent 5ish years on it. Horrible time for me. I was worse off then ever on that stuff. Weaned myself off methadone slowly over a 8 month period, using Percocet and cocaine. Sounds horrible, I know. It worked tho. What can I say… anyways, I got on suboxone when I had enough of that. I’ve been clean, zero relapses, on subs for 5 years as of a week ago. I don’t know when I will get off subs but eventually I will. Also, very accurate description of a methadone clinic. The lines outside were wild. I waited over 4 hours MULTIPLE MULITPLE times in every type of weather possible. I think my longest wait was 6 hours. I will never go back to methadone no matter happens. Me personally, I felt more human and present when I was snorting 90mg of oxycodone four times a day while also snorting yayo all day. That shit was awful. Never again. Subs is the way to go.
Sleep paralysis is pretty common while on Methadone
Suboxone has been a 15 year nightmare, with lots of effort. Bad reactions ignored for almost decades plural lol - Methadone clinic on Monday.
Hey Derek, I have watched lots of your videos before. But this is my first time asking you a question.
I started methadone 4 days ago, as a short term detox plan from 1 year IM heroin addiction. Before going into methadone, I already tried cold turkey 3 times, but failed at around 40 hours mark, scored, but I'm sure my tolerance dropped quite a bit. So my starting dose is 10ml/day methadone, it holds withdrawal at bay 80% on my first day, on the 3rd day, the methadone i think has accumulate enough to hold me up 90% , my aim is to quit totally, not for maintenance. How do you suggest I should go about this plan? What dosage reduction and timeline should I follow?
Here in Hong Kong, the doctors are mainly concerned with maintenanace, my case is not their priority.
Also I'm a seaman, before i join my ship they will drug test me. So a fairly long taper is not ideal for me.
Today is my fourth day of using methadone, and I just dropped my dose to 7.5ml. I'm pretty optimistic about it as I learned methadone only accumulates more within the body as time goes by. So I figure since I'm feeling almost 100%, I should drop my dose.
I want to feel NOT 100%, so that I know my tolerance is decreasing. Minor withdrawal symtoms I can handle.
Hey Pina Colada! From what I've heard and been told by the doctor at the methadone clinic that I use here in Canada...the ideal length of time before a taper begins is 1 year. It shocked me when I was first told that. I'd been putting Oxys up my nose for a year - generally three 80mg pills a day - not to get high, mind you but simply to not feel sick. I've only used Suboxone once and it was while I was still abusing oxys....this was years ago but if I remember correctly, it lasted me about a day and a half, maybe even 2 days before I would start getting the withdrawal sickness. I've now been on methadone for 11 years now. I've made peace with the fact that I'll no doubt require the methadone for the rest of my days.
I notice that you posted your comment 6 months ago. I do hope things are good for you these days and wish you only the best.
@@wangson hi.....I relapsed on Heroin, now using methadone to quit again, been on it for 2 months now, started at 40~45ml, now at 20ml....going down steadily, no issues at all so far
Yea....including the incident I described from the original post, I have used methadone to go completely opiate-free twice, it can work. Now it's my 3rd time doing it, hopefully the last time, I am so sick and tired of this destructive cycle.
What you experienced with the numb body after waking up is called sleep paralysis and is incredibly common and harmless. It couldve been triggered by the Methadone but most likely it was just triggered by the stress of the situation moreso than anything else. I've been experiencing sleep paralysis a few times a month for over 10 years, its nothing to worry about.
My niece was addicted to heroin for 2 years. She went on methadone and relapsed. Went on suboxone for 2 weeks and has been clean for 6 years now.
🤔 clean
@AV-sq3jb yes, clean. Married with 3 kids, owns her own home and runs her own business. The only time she was ever close to relapsing was when she visited her hometown for a wedding. Being back there was a trigger and she ended up leaving earlier than expected because she was scared of using.
Celebrated 10 years sober October 2023.
Subs saved my life BUT now I have an addiction to Subs so it’s tough. I’m down to a quarter a sub a day I’m hoping in a few weeks I’ll be good. I stopped Subs cold turkey and the withdrawal was intense. Great video bro 💪🏻
I feel you brother. I tried doing a rapid taper after being on the strips for 5 years. Made it 3 days before I hit up the legal dealer. You got this man. We all got to stay strong. Hope you can break free from the sub chains.
Im in the same boat.
I'm on methadone 6 in a half yrs same boat scared of the unknown and to relapse once off. Bc my brother and dad passed away 3 mons an 13 days apart dad from sickness Sept 1st 2018 and my brother was murdered in cold blood still no answers of why when who and all of the emotions tied to it triggers me bc im afraid once I'm off methadone I'll try and mask my real feelings with dope again and I can't see myself doing that but thats what addicts go thru an I texted derricks number and havent gotten any reply so Idk what to do. I have no support system a broken marriage and feel like im a prisoner in my own home and head
Hey man I’ve been on methadone for 8 years now im trying to get off it my dose is really higher I think should I just stop taking my dose cold turkey or should I slowly taper down
In the beginning it sounds like u we’re going thru sleep psychosis . It happens to people who don’t have a normal sleep schedule. Even to people who never had a drug a addiction. Lol
Does subloxalone help with pain...I horrible pain for Disc Disease thats severe
If you wean off suboxone the correct way you won’t feel any withdraw. My mom was on subs she weaned very slowly and had no withdraw
Thank you for this video , im currently having withdrawal from heroin 2 days ago, i found a 2mg suboxone i took it about 18 hours ago, and feel really bad still, i got some 5mg metadone, and there is a whole week before i can go see a doctor and get suboxone again, can i take the methadone?🙏🙏.
I'm on 157mg, clean since 2014 this time. I'll never stop because Methadone withdrawals make Oxy withdrawals seem nice.
I was on 190mg of methadone for three years, now on 30-40mg it was tough going down but worth it for me. Weed edibles, clonidine and kratom really kept me going. Either way good for you.
Methadone is a miracle. The clinic suck though.
Methadone withdrawals are nothing if you slowly taper and come off a low dose then switch to a short acting opiate like kratom
That’s a weird amount of meth to be prescribed Umar!!
If it ain’t broke don’t try to fix it
Methadone isnt free in jersey but medicaid covers it and subs. But it's hard to find a doctor to prescribe the subs that accepts medicaid.
"your head has to be in the game" that's the factor that makes the difference
Suboxone saved my life as it has many others, but it's been 3 years now, my doctor's (which I've had 4) have never mentioned tapering or getting off. I know eventually I'm going to have to get off, is methadone a good way to taper off long term Suboxone dependence? What about high dose Kratom use? I'm at a bit of a crossroads in my recovery as my work is changing health insurance packages and I'm not sure how much longer they will cover my beuprenorphine
do u know if u can mix subutex and heroin? ive been told by my doctor that i have to rattle for about 16 hours before i can take the subutex. rattling right now ad it sucks
I'm currently on 75mg of methadone. I made the decision to get on methadone after a few horrible precipitated withdrawal episodes with fentanyl. Buprenorphine worked great with getting me off heroin & oxycodone, but fentanyl is another story due to it being lipophilic. Eventually I would have to get off of methadone too, and that scares me somewhat. I'm semi-functioning right now because of the methadone.
Same story here...I had no problem getting a Suboxone taper to get of Heroin..but with this Fent, i went into PW 4 times, even after waiting 4 days since last use.. I'm strongly contemplating methadone cause I want OFF THIS ISH...I miss my clean and sober lifestyle and I want it back...I think imma just bite the bullet and take the methadone and then do a slow taper
@@samsiev5282I was on methadone for 3+ years and just got off 11 days ago. I tapered at 2mg a week from 80mg to 2mg then stopped entirely and besides some minor symptoms I feel good.
I would recommend tapering at no more than 2mgs a week and ideally drop down to 1mg a week for the last 10 msg or even slower than that.
You got this just gotta be persistent.
Well done on getting off various things. Methadone is nasty. I did a ten day detox 19 months ago after a 28 year habit. Started in detox on 40 first night then 30, 22, 18, 12, 10, 8, 6, 4 then 2ml. I was then on clonidine for a few days to help with any methadone withdrawals. Came out after 3 weeks. Felt fucking shit but carried on until I started on tramadol then buying 30mg boxes of zomorphs. So back in treatment but giving subutex another go. Last time on that in 2008 I was snorting the tablets so ended up with a daft habit. I’m older and wiser now though so just use them the correct way. Sublingually. Take care and hope it’s worked out for you. 🙏
You might not want to be like Joe Blogs who has been on Meth for 15/20 years but it seems to work for some people as their still alive and living a decent, stable life.
2 years clean for me. How long did it take you to feel normal after getting clean. I still have dreams about shooting up. Does it ever go away??
I'm 9 years clean and have dreams about it