The Truth About Suboxone / Suboxone Treatment
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The science of addiction medicine has advanced exponentially in the last decade.
Medication-Assisted Treatment (Suboxone Treatment) is changing how we treat opioid use disorder.
We now understand what's going on at the brainwave level - the damage drug addiction does and the effectiveness of medications like Suboxone.
Part naltrexone and part buprenorphine, Suboxone is much safer than Methadone or even Subutex for narcotic addiction.
Suboxone works for addictions to opiates:
- Heroin
- Prescription Pain Medications (Vicodin, Codeine, Fentanyl, Hydrocodone (Vicodin), Hydromorphone, Morphine, Oxycodone (OxyContin, Percocet), Tramadol, Meperidine)
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I had a hardcore script drug problem for years and I’ve taken subs but honestly you just have to quit and suffer and deal with it. It took me easily over a year to not have mental cravings and to sleep right and even enjoy music again. But that was years ago and I don’t even think about it anymore. Not for a second. It was mentally and physically the toughest thing ever but it can be done cause I did it. Good luck y’all and F big pharma!!
Good for you. I don't have the will power. I run a multimillion dollar farming operation and I just couldn't afford to be dope sick. I got hooked on pills after a 9 inch double hernia operation left me inmobile for months and on PRESCRIBED morphine. that I got addicted to. i found i could work my ass off and it cured my ADHD. But 2 years later after starting prescribed morphine to black market 80 mg oxy neo with about 12 5mg Percs a day I was at 400mg a day opiate intake. now I'm 6 days on a suboxone program and i feel fucking great. its Christmas eve 2023 from Canada. Pray for Canada. Anyway I am hoping that this will save my life and not be such a terrible burden on my family as I have been. F Trudue
7 years off heroin.Peace of mind and relief, would be an understatement. Oh, I'm 60 now, and was a heroin addict for aproximatly 27 years of my life. So yes, this works.
So you’re 60 and have been in suboxone for 7 years and are still on? How many mg a day do you take?
I would like to know too if you don't mind. No judging. Just curious about what I'm going to do.
@@tantheman3359 Since no one has answered, my daughter is on 12 mg per day. I believe that 16 mg is considered a high dose (not many prescriptions go higher than that).
@@steelyman08 normally they prescribe you one 8mg suboxone in the morning and one at night because there is a 12 hour half life which is 16mg total. But if I take a whole suboxone in one day (8mg) I feel like a walking chemical and I cant stand it but if I take literally and 8th of the suboxone I do just fine no withdrawal or anything although the craving is still there. I'm just worried about taking this for the rest of my life. How old is your daughter if you don't mind me asking. I am 18 I've been doing opiates for over a year now and I cant stay off worth a shoznet
@@tantheman3359 She's 24 and has been on the same dose (12 mg per day) for three years now. But she was a serious hardcore heroin & meth addict, so the subs are a blessing for her. I wish you the very best. P.S. She does have hers prescribed in 2mg tabs so that she can choose the timing that suits her the best, I think she does 2 three times a day ~ morning, early afternoon, and early evening. She found that better than 6mg at one time. Take care!
Why isn't this video seen by millions? This is a serious issue affecting hundreds of thousands of families.
Amen! It literally saved my daughter's life. The problem seems to be a general lack of funding and too few clinics nationwide. I've heard that many have to drive hours to even get to the nearest available center.
@@steelyman08 - There has been a reluctance to embrace Suboxone even within the addiction treatment and recovery communities. There's bitterness from people that did not use medications in their own recovery. The research that Suboxone improves brain function and allows more people to accept recovery is changing that mindset. The point of this video is to be voices of education and discussion so that you for your comments!
Here is more information on this topic too > journeypure.com/ask-our-doctors/suboxone/
@@Journeypure Thank you for doing good work. I merely meant to support it by using a personal example of its success. All the best.
Agreed
@@Journeypure 🤡
Anyone reading this as a long term opiate and herion user Suboxone can help but it was designed to be taken for 1-2 weeks. I was 2 years completely sober and messed my back up real bad. I told DRs and they suggested subs. Took less than prescribed at 2MG for around 4 years. I completely quit 18 days ago and still withdrawls are pretty severe in waves. Insomnia, severe body and muscle aches, mood swings, sweating, cold chills, skin crawling, eyes watering, sneezing so much it hurts my sides, diarrhea. Would much rather come of other opiates oxys or Heroin. Its just such a long drawn out torturing hell its like being water boarded. If you take subs please dont take them long. You can quit without subs or methadone and its much easier and faster. This sucks and wouldn't wish on anyone.
nice to read during my taper from 3 years of usage
@@tdawg9225 hang in there. Im almost at 3 months and feeling great. You can do it
Sublocade that’s how I got off of it. It’s honestly the best way because tapering off Suboxone is very hard but I got a supplicate shot and it’s just buprenorphine they give it to you and your stomach and it slowly releases throughout the month and you don’t have to take Suboxone anymore you don’t have to take anything daily And then when it wears off, it has been coming out of your system so slowly that you get little to none withdrawal and if you do, it’s very manageable
@@opulententry What did you mean by supplicate?
Kratom
yea the thing they dont tell you is about the hell you go threw when you get off the suboxen
I'm 45 days off subs and I'm fine.
That's right!!
I have been on suboxone for 2 months getting off fentanyl. My question is.. is it to late to get off suboxone? And I will go through the withdrawals but is it bad?
@@rupertwinslow8638 not bad if your not on it long but any month or years on it the withdrawl is at least a month long
That's why you only use sub for like 4 days just to get through the WD
I’ve been on suboxone for at least ten years.. and I’m getting to the point where I feel shitty most of the time. Anxiety is bad! My thoughts are mixed up like déjà vu … I get sweaty and weak!! I really curse the 1st pain pill I ever took
I'm the exact same way.i was been on it for 3 years.my whole life I've been a morning person.usually energetic. Now I have severe anxiety and hate to leave my house.i literally get anxious if my phone rings or someone knows on my door.
@@billyshort8185I was like this with methadone and Xanax or if I'm going through withdrawals. I remember I could be asleep and all of a sudden wake up and instantly go into a panic for no reason or just hating to socialize with anyone. I find with the Suboxone it helps me be productive and socialize with my mom and people. Also I noticed it gives me energy like a pep I don't nod like I used to on the methadone.
Oh my God you guys are just like me. Im 50. I used to love mornings etc. Been on Suboxone for 10 years. I can't get out of bed. Anxiety is out of control. Chills sweats. Every day - day after day. What a curse :(
Salute doctor josh very helpful video
Thanks for posting, it's a positive thing.
Recovering fentanyl addict with 14 months. Suboxone and methadone aren't for me but I've seen it work for people. It gets a bad wrap from people that don't understand addiction but recovery comes in all shapes and sizes and if it is reducing the risk of overdose and providing a window to recovery I'm all for it. Even if it only provides small amounts of clean time followed by a relapse, all of those bouts of recovery are stepping stones to longer and longer clean time. That's why someone should never care how many times they've been to treatment....statistics say it takes atleast 13 treatment stays to see the final progression. ❤
I happen to be in recovery over 32 years however I am in a great deal of pain and bupe takes care of it without making me a zombie. My sponsor and more importantly say that I hold onto my recovery whether I use it or not. I know how alcohol worked on me and taking bupe is not it! No DWI no waking up in strange places no blackouts and a decent quality of life.
I think we who have a great deal of pain and are sober face a choice and my choice was bupe for pain and I do not regret it. As I said if you want to taper off it has to be slow and I mean real slow. I do not see why people are in a rush. Get down to mere crumbs and skip days. My WD was not bad at all because I went slowly
THIS is the truth. God, if we could get the government to spend the money they use to jail addicts on sending addicts to recovery any time they’re busted, the world could change. I guess the profits are too good with the prison system. But you have the most spot on comment in the thread.
I feel like relapse is more dangerous than continued use because a lot of folks will be clean then go back to their old dose and that is how they end up ODing.
Clean 2years now.I was addicted to morphine IV to a maximum of 80mg in 24hours then I was started on suboxone which I managed to taper to 1mg daily by assumption since I used to split the 2mg tab.Then there's this doctor in a clinic in Kenya who gave me some powder to boil and drink when I was feeling withdrawal from suboxone .....I drunk that herb once and from that day I never felt any withdrawal or any craving for any opiate.Almost now 3years clean.
Probably Ibogaine or something similar. That is the only effective way to truly quit any opiate (yes subs are opiates) without withdrawal. Congrats on being clean.
was it kratom or ibogaine?
I've been on 24 most for 12 years...where do I start?
There’s a cure in nature for every problem the body has the problem here in the west is most medication is made from petro chemicals synthetic drugs
How long did it take t from the last time you used to you didn’t have to take anything To feel normal
The key to overcoming opioids is to become dependent on Suboxone. Jokes.
Not jokes
..big pharma truth
The FDA has not approved the use for chronic pain. Dealing with four crushed discs for over 30 years my doctor wants me to go on Suboxone. The methadone he's currently prescribing is working for me, but he's getting ready to retire and nobody else in the clinic will prescribe for me. Everything I've seen about suboxone and chronic pain tells me to stay away.
Literally driving my minivan right now...
I remember when I would use up my supply and the suffering would come on laying in bed watching videos on how to get clean. I never had the will power to follow up. I would always by the next script when it was time. 1 day I was suffering in the shower trying to figure out who to call when I remembered a coworker who had the " mannerisms" of a user to see if he could hook me up. He said he couldn't do that but came and took me to a rehab center. I was reluctant at first but the withdrawal was to severe so I gave in. It takes a bit of time initially but they get you dosed up and the suffering dissipates. I had to go back the next day to increase and then I was finally at 24MG when I didn't have thoughts of using or any withdrawal. I am currently tapering and am at 6mg now and should be clean in a few months. Suboxone did help me no doubt about it. I was amazed how it took away the constant thinking of the next fix. I feel normal again and don't even have cravings..its fken weird and wonderful. I hope you can figure this out. Good luck!
Did you have success getting off the suboxone?
@gabrielcorrea2738 your doggo is so friggin cute
Been on and off opiates for 10 years and I’m taking suboxone now. $12 for 2 weeks with insurance is much better than thousands on heroin and pills
and you never know whats inside your pills either, or whatever your taking..but do you have to sample on camera? watch you while your going to the bathroom?
Dont take it long. Its so hard to detox off subs. I was on 2mg for a few years. Now on day 18 and still in withdrawls. Its such a long withdrawl its like torture
Totally agree with you Jimmy.
I completed my 30 days and left with a much higher opiate tolerance than I arrived having. I was treated for opiate use disorder primarily instead of alcoholism. Left on SIXTEEN mg of Suboxone. The cost of it alone has kept my partner broke as he selflessly let me stay unemployed while he worked 2 jobs just so I could focus on my recovery. Knowing I had a year to realistically taper myself off of it made it impossible to feel I was clean in the first place. I had no desire to go score before treatment, but a liquor store every square mile or so has been the hardest thing to stay away from. I forget to take my Suboxone all of the time but I never forget when it is time to have a drink Which is slowly becoming whenever I feel the need to again. 10 in the morning, up all night with a rattling paper bag of airplane bottle sized schnapps. Never thought coming back to rehab would feel relieving to think about. A few of the women I was in with are back now too, so I suppose I shouldn't be too hard on myself.
How did you leave with a higher tolerance?
Recovering addict here after 3 lower back surgeries I was on 320 mg of OxyContin a day. Literally didn’t care if I lived or died. I’m now over 10 years sober, wife and 2 kids and happier now than I’ve ever been in my life! It works! I don’t think anyone in as bad a shape as I was can do it alone! It takes more than just suboxone too. But had it not been for suboxone I really don’t think I’d be alive today!
When you say it takes more than just suboxone what do you mean are you taking other drugs with it or vitamins thank you
@@gorilladogmotherturtlebum769 no, I just meant will power, not putting yourself in bad situations with old friends who still use, setting some type of goal. What I’ve found is, you don’t get high from suboxone. U feel normal. Like before u started using. That’s half the battle. If u don’t do the work and keep your mind occupied the urge to get high will still creep up. Idle hands do the devils work. An idle mind is the devils playground. Thank god before I slipped backwards I ended up meeting someone and having a child. That gave me all the reason I needed. A second chance at LIFE. To be happy without being high. But without something to take away those withdrawal symptoms in the beginning there’s no way I could have done it. Stuff saved my life. Literally.
@@mattstacy1652 are you still using them or are you the cleanest bean
@@brickdinero5468 Oo, good question!
Can I ask you a question I was taking around the same you mentioned of taking ING oxycotin and I have been on sub for 3 days I don't feel back but I'll feel fine or as fine can be then get like dizzy out of no where and my Dr says everyone's different but how long were you on sub where you didn't need it anymore ? Thank you so much
Wait till you meet Sub withdrawals, it’s a whole different ball game. You think you know pain and suffering? The devil wears many disguises, do not be fooled by this one
Yeah it’s worse than whatever drug your trying to quit. This world is full of evil people . They want to trap someone on their drugs instead of drug dealers making the money that’s why it strips your soul from you . I will never go back on subs even if I have to die suffering wich I still am
Amen. Using an opioid drug to treat opioid drug addiction 😂 . Suboxone is more prevalent than ever, and yet overdoses are climbing higher and higher. Drug related crime is rampant, and it’s easier than ever to get suboxone. How is it working? It’s not. They’re treating the symptoms of a disease, not the disease itself.
@@komrad51st I had the experience of finding no relief. Going from bad solution to bad solution. Things didn’t change until I was completely backed into a corner and I had no fight left. I hope you become as desperate as I did. You’re in my thoughts.
@@adaml6862 yeah it’s basically a trap they don’t want to cure you . Why would they when it’s a billion dollar profit & I’m still suffering from pain 5 months later I’m thinking about relapsing on oxy codone & just detox from that since it’s quicker
Yes I agree. I was taking Suboxone for a year and a half on 16 mg a day towards the end. I have stopped it now for 15 days. I have many different pain issues and was prescribed Percocet. I cannot even feel the Percocet at all and it’s not taking my pain away. And I’m having the worst withdrawals it’s awful. Even with taking a Percocet the withdrawals are horrible. I know the Suboxone is attached to my pain receptors so the Percocet cannot get in and attach to the pain receptors. I’m just wondering how long I have to go in these awful withdrawals until my Percocet can work and take my pain away! This is terrible. I have no energy I have restless legs and insomnia at night feel like I weigh 500 poundsIt’s hard to move around. Worst withdrawals ever even when you have pain meds on board.
Yes , suboxone will keep you off of pain meds and heroin and all that junk but now they gotta find a way to get people of of suboxone itself cause it’s harder to get off that than pain meds themselves .
Any input on this would be nice
Sublocade that’s how I got off of it. It’s honestly the best way because tapering off Suboxone is very hard but I got a supplicate shot and it’s just buprenorphine they give it to you and your stomach and it slowly releases throughout the month and you don’t have to take Suboxone anymore you don’t have to take anything daily And then when it wears off, it has been coming out of your system so slowly that you get little to none withdrawal and if you do, it’s very manageable
I r one hundred percent right 👍 about that I want off of it I hate It I gained Alot of weight It makes me lazy and constipated I wish I could I tried one time to get off of it but I was puking at Walmart that was how sick I was cause I was not taking it no more but what am I supposed to do I feel stuck and hopeless some one tell me how to get off of this
It’s designed to treat pain firstly
Been heroin free for 6 yrs now I only take suboxone and spend a Total of $150 copay and gas and food included . I would rather do this then spend thousands and be miserable almost dying it’s help me get my life back on track please seek help .
After 16 years of taking Percocet for chronic pain my pain specialist tapered me down from 6 tablets a day to 4 to 3 and now she stopped prescribing Percocet as of yesterday and put me on Suboxone 8mg/2mg. I have been taking 2 Percocet per day for the last week and will take my final tablet tomorrow. My pain doctor said that I need to start the “induction” after 24 hours after my last Percocet dose with 1/2 a Suboxone under the tongue at first, and go to 1 full film after that. I hope this works for me because the withdrawal in between doses of Percocet is brutal for me.
Yeah my Dr died 2 weeks ago was on 5mg percs for 13 yrs can't find a Dr to get me any it's like wtf do I do I have Medicaid hardly any Dr accept it what do u suggest really appreciate it
Your Dr is better than most
@Chris-yi4pj good luck. I suggest suboxone clinic $150 for 1st visit gets you 7 doses of 4mg/ 1mg... doc told me to take half of 1 film= 2mg of suboxone.... that was way too much ,,was high for 2 days... not good either passed out, came to, sweating like a pig,
Did it help you
Why the switch from percocets to Suboxone though?
Coming off subs is harder than Heroin, Oxy, you freaking name it. If you take it please dont take it long because its absolutely been hell for 18 days coming off just 2 MG a day.
Hey there Mark, so with me I’ve been taking Percocet for chronic pain for about 16 years, and over the last year my pain doctor tapered me down the Percocet from 6/ day to 5 to 4 over several months. I am now down to 2 Percocets a day and will stop tomorrow all together. My pain doctor prescribed Suboxone to start 24 hours after my last dose of Percocet. My body has been adjusting to a lower dose of Percocet but I still get withdrawals in between doses (shaky legs, restlessness, anxiety, etc). Will the Suboxone be hell for me you think? I also never asked my doctor how long I have to take this Suboxone for. You think it would be easier to just go off the Percocet and ride out the withdrawal since I am down to only 2 per day? Any help would be appreciated
@@U2FanSanFran I was taking suboxone for chronic back pain from a slipped disc. I would recommend not taking it very long at all 2 weeks a month at the most. The longer its used the harder and longer the withdrawal. It was designed to be taken for a week and to be tapered from the very first dose. It helps pain but is hell to come off of after any substantial time of use. Im at 3 months with no meds at all. Pain is still there but is bearable and feels great to not be dependent on any meds at all.
No it's not! I took 8 mg Sub strips for 16 years and jumped from .25 mg 45 days ago. At NO time did I feel dopesick. Just some insomnia and mild discomfort.
@@rickp3753 what the fuck l get fried off a lil 2 mg piece your a different type men🫡
It’s the depression that stays for long time
When you said that I’m driving safely I cried.
I been on suboxone 5 yes and I’m so sick of it.
I may be on it for the rest of my life.
Sorry to hear that...May I ask why do u feel this way about it?
Me too Elizabeth Hun !! Been on Suboxone for 10 years cause I cannot kick it ! The withdrawals are just too much for me ! It's like descending to the bowells of hell !!! We sound alike
I feel high from Suboxone actually, especially if I take two at to the same time.
Bs
That is because it is an opiate.
@@MrJoelalfaopioid
A chemical solution to a chemical problem?
Yep. That's what this video is about. Were you confused? Is that why you asked?
You know Ibogaine is a chemical, right? Everything is a chemical. Everything is a macro compound of its molecular constituency. Everything can be broken down to molecules, atoms, etc. Claiming that a plant is not a chemical is an erroneous statement. We are all star dust, right? We are all spawn from carbon and heavier elements right? If everything here is carbon-based it is classified as organic chemistry. Organic (carbon based) chemistry (reaction of chemicals). You’re indulging in wordplay by not admitting your natural ibogaine plant is a chemical when you look at it under a microscope.
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Can someone tell me why, as someone whos been on them for like 2yrs now...
WHY.... WHY am I going into wds by the next MORNING?? this has been happening for a LONG time now.
I was on 8 and 2 twice a day for a long time, i am now on 2 mg twice a day.
Itake one as soon as I wake up, and one right before bed...
why is it... that every time I wake up.. until about an hour after I take it...
i am MISERABLE. I am clammy, my back is killing me and im nauseated. and contact with cold air sends me into a tremor fit.
Nothing seems to change it.
I feel like its my metabolism..
This shouldnt freaking happen. I was always told it should take a few days at LEAST before I started getting significantly sick. x_x
The only thing that tends to help is if i freaking take my med, and go sit in my bathroom with the shower running on as hot as i can get it.. until the room warms up, and THEN i get in the shower.. Usually by the time i get out im ok.
x_x
The make 12 mg maybe that’s what you need ?
im trying to get off them. i moved from 8/2 twice a day down to 2/1 once a day. i went back up to one 8mg tablet a day until i get subloclade@@SwedeJr.
I’ve been on suboxone but I really hated it it gave me really bad anxiety and I was always angry like a meth addict methadone is much better it got rid of all my anxiety hells me sleep and I’m really relaxed during the day love 💕 it love it 😊
Joshua,,,can you be on subutex,,then change too methadone??.
That's strange. I don't understand how suboxone could give you anxiety? It's an OPIATE.
@@christopherwalker6056 It might be the other way around - Suboxone simply isn't potent enough to TAKE AWAY the anxiety that is already there, underneath. And Methadone is.
I tapered very very slowly and the WD was not even close to morphine or oxy WD just do it slow. After a year off I had to go back because of my pain issues and have no problem with being on bupe. Maybe people are WDing too fast. When I went off I took months and why not? I was in no hurry
I snort 0.4 mg everyday it's still hard to stop
maybe try sublingual and taper that way. Even .4 is a lot@@aymenblv1542
Good luck coming off that crud. I struggled so much harder to get off subs than I had with any dope or pills I used. Not an advocate...
Going through it now
No way it can be worse then going thru pills or herion
U should've tapperd off best way to get clean
I'm so sorry for your experience, Devon and Michael. As Teresa said, Suboxone should be used with a tapper plan upfront. Like any medication, if it is not prescribed correctly, there are unpleasant side effects. Be sure to do your research to find a reputable Suboxone clinic/doctor. I know it's hard because you're likely calling while sick, but the company should care about your story and understanding what is going on. The doctor should make a plan with you, not just hand you a prescription.
@@teresawardall2875 IT IS WAY WAY WORSE and WAY WAY LONGER
Long story short, if it wasn't for this drug I would be dead !!!
I’m trying to get off after they try to tell me you need this shit forever, eff that shit, I need my mother to effing apologize or die
My last time using opiates was 10 days ago I still have diarrhea and I’m a bit moody and I have muscle pains from here and I don’t have an appetite so I went to the clinic and I think they’re going to give me suboxone I mean I’ve been cold turkey for a week and 3 days I’m scared I don’t wanna go through withdrawals but I don’t want to replace an addiction with an addiction what should I do ???
If your this far off just don't take anything
You'll be back by week 3
If u start taking subs then it's just another addiction I would recommend taking a tiny tiny piece of what they give you like an 8th that's what I do and it completely reversed withdrawals but when u stop taking subs it's like just as bad if not worse
This comment was a week ago should b feeling better already if u haven't taken anything
I am in week 3 of coming off suboxone, please don't take it. It is harder to come off this than opiates. You will get through it. If you take suboxone your trading one addiction for another. It is awful to come off of and I was only on it for 5 months. The side effects alone were awful. Please do not go that route. I was only on 13mg and it nearly killed me. Talk to your Dr they can help with the withdrawal and therapy. Good luck
Have you ever gone through withdrawal from subs I wouldn't wish that on my enemies
It's the worst thing ever created by the Lord. Suboxone withdrawal was created by the devil himself
But does it deal with the chronic pain?????!!
Yes it does for me anyways, I have diabetic neuropathy and I take 2mg a day, but I'm trying to get off because it indeed is an opiate, but most dr's won't tell you that if given for chronic pain, that's why I'm upset because it's like I'm in jail, tried to stop, horrible, worse than any other opiates because of the long half life, I'd much rather detox from any other opiate, this can take months of detox and there's nothing they can give you to help except clonidine, which is a bp med they use for anxiety..
Suboxone is excellent for a week or two to get off other opiates, but long term use BEWARE!!! GOOD LUCK
Yes. I was a long term addict that had 2 years sober and slipped a disc couldnt walk. Took 2 mg a day for a few years and it helped a lot but i quit cold turkey and on day 18 of withdrawls. I would recommend anyone who takes it not take it longer than a week or two.b
Not my pain . I was so off my face that I didn’t notice pain
Could not walk a straight line
I'm glad that subs are free cause if I don't get sick I can sell them to get drugs and when I can occasionally get high of them and I'm not special or unique or alone I literally in past 15 years met one person in real life that suffers what I suffer from say this helped mind and mood altering substance and I've been to 15 rehabs and over a 100 recovery houses and 6 cities I guess what actually been seen and been through means nothing right
Please get some help my friend. It sounds like you're deep in the abyss. The longer you use, the more you're playing russian roulette with a fatal overdose. Get some structure, get serious and get on medication assisted treatment. I relapsed after trying to get sober six months ago and refusing suboxone. That relapse landed me in the ICU in a coma with a ventilator bc I couldn't breathe on my own anymore. My liver almost failed, I was on dialysis, poison control was working with my doctors collecting data. My girlfriend of 10 years had to come to the hospital with my family and say goodbye to me, as the doctor didn't think I would make it through night two. Narcan didn't work. For some reason, I pulled through and opened my eyes on the third day. The doctor didn't think I'd have any brain function since I hadn't been been found aspirated and unconscious for over 16 hours. I'll never forget the look of trauma on my family's faces. Four days later, I went into an outpatient recovery program and got on suboxone. Things got so much better. The despair and depression I was in while using started to get better. I could start to see things clearly and become myself again. It's now been six months that I've been clean, and I absolutely could not have done it without suboxone. My life has never been better than it is now. My liver returned to normal, and life is interesting again. I don't sit around thinking about death anymore. It's so liberating to be free from shooting up. There is an end to all the chaos, anxiety, and depression. I hope this reaches you, I don't want to come off as preachy or anything, I just see myself in what you typed and I don't want this disease to kill you. Wishing you all the strength, you've got this. One moment at a time.
I love the chemical highway analogy, because it perfectly illustrates the triviality of replacement therapy. if taking opiates for so long has decreased opiate receptors, and doctors know the brain needs a rest so it can recover, why give the brain yet more opiates? and to say an opiate gets rid of opiate cravings is like saying heroin gets rid of heroin cravings.
He is saying this is why suboxone is a useful therapy.
1. Suboxone is not an opiate it's an opiate agonist. 2. It has a ceiling effect on respiratory suppression and a high analgesic efficacy- meaning it's much safer than an opiate and will not slow or stop breathing. 3. A therapeutic dose of suboxone does not bind all opiate receptors, leaving many to begin the healing process- and for your tolerance to drop, which is really just street lingo for the fact that the sensitivity of your receptors is returning. and 4. Anyone who takes it should have a plan before they start for when and how they will taper off- which should be light years easier for them now because they've been able to return to work and repair relationships due tot he fact that they no longer have any reason to lie or break the law daily.
Ppl like yourself remind me an awful lot of the virus and vaccine deniers in this country- you both have no idea what you're talking about, you both clearly distrust and do not understand medical science or academia, and neither of you are interested in listening or changing your mind about anything- this topic included. So I didn't really even write this for you- I wrote this for anyone who reads your post- now they have two points of view and can make a better, more informed decision about what to believe.
Buprenorphine is a weak weak painkiller, you were never in pain in first place but abusing ect. If you actually injure yourself bad enough you will realize how partial agoinistic it really is. Most of the time people with bad injury dont develop an addiction to there medication, due to the fact they are so happy to get there life back to normal, along with PT ect you will thank you doc in the future for allowing your receptors to slowly come back to normal just stay positive you will see it through
@@stoneysdead689 1. suboxone contains one part opiate, buprenorphine.
2. agreed.
3. *tolerance to the opiate you were doing before. subs have their own tolerance, and probably worse withdrawals. part of my gripe with this is in many ways, youd be better off giving someone pharamceutical grade morphine and weaning them off that, than 10 years on subs thinking the work is done. its just an emergency being addicted to subs as it is any other opiate.
4. you have to come off the drugs at some point, this kind of attitude risks just kicking the can perpetually down the road
@@conorjh89 LOL- Haus, I'm not having this same conversation for the fiftieth million time with yet another smart ass know it all who has no credentials, no degree, no real experience- just thinks he has it all figured out. Tell you what junior- you take ppl's advice off the internet you don't know and I'll stick to actual medical science- guess I'm funny that way. Have a nice day douchebag- I'll see you down at the clinic once the world has whooped your ass and shown you- maybe you don't have it all figured out.
I’m reading the comments and I’m seeing u all say y’all been on this for years that’s a new addition I got shot an broke my bones and now have metal in my leg I took pain meds yes they are addictive an i took this to get off an in a week I was done didn’t even finish this script an threw it away but I never was a addictive person it’s 3 types of addiction u want it need it and like it but your mind plays a big part of it as well u can stop u jus have to want to
Good for you for not taking it long enough to get physically dependent if did you would be here with everyone else looking for something to curb withdrawals and bitching on here
I knew I had a drug problem when I smashed a school construction zone up with a sledgehammer. Lol
I've always functioned normal when high, acted normal etc...
Look, suboxone works for some people, and more power to them. Anything is better than full blown, out of control addiction. But this video is quite biased, seemingly made by someone trying to sell a suboxone treatment and presenting it in the mostly positive light possible.
It most certainly can get you high. It tickles the same receptors your drug of choice was tickling. It has side effects similar to other opiates, perhaps less severe. If you ever want off it, you'll have to go through the withdrawal. It's highly stigmatized. You're not going to be treated well by medical personnel.
My friend takes these Suboxone for a high
Your friend is gonna regret that within a few months. Eventually it will catch up to your friend
I called the number on the screen for help and nobody answered the phone. There is no help here
I wanna know what this doctor is on 😂 he’s on something and it works
Everyone else in this video is so stiff compared to him
I've taken 1-2 MG of suboxone for 3 days. Just started. I puked all evening!
I've been off opiates on my own for 6 months.
Guess it's not for me
Probably too high of a mg. I have to cut a 2mg pill into 4ths then those in half again!
You MUST be in withdrawal before taking suboxone. If you were clean 6 months when you took it, I'll bet you were sick.
It works dam i on it . i from Canada . i am a cannabis to so . its all good .
Anybody know how to get off the subs?
Pray pray pray and pray !!! Cry cry and cry and cry !! Good luck Hun
@bryanburnap4537 Thanks for your response..... Great news, i'm sober! Now I'm confused. I thought it was at least gonna be a year. But judging from this post, not so much
Honestly I had am easier time coming off heroin and fetynal alone. If you want to change you will. I've been sick for 2 months now coming off subs and i tapered to .5 mgs a day for months. This feeling is much worse than dealing with the real crap for a few days which can be covered using other meds.
what other meds did you use to help?
En primer lugar ustede mismo se tienen que tener compasión y no sentirse tan culpable 🤷 cuando uno tiene unas cuantas cirugías en la espada no fue que uno fue a buscar drogas en la calle uno se rompió la espalda en un trabajo los medicamentos recetados lleva a uno a una adicción que uno. JAMÁS ❌ pensó cuando uno pasa muchos dolores crunicos uno no tienen calidad de vida es una gran diferencia cuando tu tomas un medicamento para estar alegre que para aliviar un dolor que te está torturando es una diferencia muy grande y cualquier ayuda es buena basta de juzgarte tu mismo oh yo nadie quiere vivir con dolor y tampoco nadie tienen derecho de juzgar a los demás Dios no ayude y nos de fortaleza para seguir adelante. Dios los bendiga y cuídense.
on the street they are worth $25-40 a pill
Whaaaaaaat! Are you for real????
@@beehanson3593 in w va....yep
Subutex yeah but most hardcore people dont want suboxone because of the naloxone, personally as someone on maintenance with suboxone I can tell a major difference in the two. Snorting a little tech would always get me there, but when I started taking my suboxone it wasn't nearly as euphoric.
really ? the 8s ?
@@whtuknwabtcrackknw-all-abt6122 - Suboxone is much less likely to be abused because it's combined with Naloxone. Naloxone is the same medication used to reverse an overdose. This prevents the "high".
Subutex should be given only in a clinical setting (like an inpatient rehab or detox), but sadly this is not always the case. It is preferred during early detox because the naloxone in Suboxone can make withdrawals worth.
I appreciate you sharing your experience, even though it's not the same message of recovery we're going for. It's important for people to understand that Suboxone doesn't get you high. Suboxone allows you to function. It gives you your life back.
4 years is nothing, try 20 yrs in addition then coming off narcos. I'm 16 months clean only use Suboxone 3 times a day.
Then you are not truly clean. Just switch one thing for another addictive drug.
Dude at least he’s trying, opiates suck, legitimately re-wire and re-write your brain to be completely different. If you felt hopeless on the narcos, and are getting treatment with suboxone, and using it to benefit your life and get it back on track, to get some type of balance, I think it seems like such a good option. I’m ruining my life right now using fent, going into detox program tomorrow. Gonna have to jump the big jump before I go to the suboxone appt because of precipitated withdrawal, which I very much don’t want to happen, so I’m terrified, but I’m making a step to better myself and get my self back on track. And some times in those low ass moments, and if you haven’t been there, you can’t speak on the matter. When ur at ur lowest, and ur brain has been rewires to habitually feel the need to do a drug? All we can make is the choice to better ourselves
@@benfalk5446 Sorry, trading one drug for an even more addictive drug is not the way to go. Ill pray for you, because if you are going to start taking suboxone, you will absolutely look back on this comment years down the road and absolutely regret the day you ever started it. The first couple of years on it are good though, so you have that to look forward to. But ultimately is makes you an unempathetic zombie after years of use, and its impossible to quit without getting major help.
@@MrJoelalfa I will be taking suboxone most likely for 15 days to days in a Full inpatient detox facility and getting off immediately, after, I do not plan on “taking suboxone” for longer than the immediate future, (at the detox facility, less than 20 day taper program. I’m going to be getting full time care from a physician who is going to do a fully customized plan for me, my body, and my addiction, even tho I’m doing it in the exact manner it’s supposed to be used in is the wrong choice? I’ve read that if you get care and treatment and use it how it’s intended as a short taper after my initial cold Turkey detox, is very affective, most of the negative things I read are when people abuse it, buy it on the streets, don’t get medical oversight
@@MrJoelalfa I’m a college student who made a mistake for 6 months and now I need help, I’m checking into a detox facility in 3 hours and going through an inpatient then psychiatrist outpatient program
Theres been dudes hang there self in jail because of how long and awful the withdrawals were and ive been through them myself they should really give a warning label for them orange pills which i like subs im just saying alit of people go into not knowing what there getting into and what its gonna take to stop if ur on it long enough its hell
Broke both my legs in the shower. Got hooked. I found out later that I was taking Very, very few opioids COMPARED. I might have been able to cold Turkey. It’s hellish. But suboxone Is used for depression in Europe. In America , big Pharma OWNS every GD state legislature. They want people depressed and making crime, etc. screw them. Last year, nine of their kids died. That’s that Family Values BS they talk about but don’t practice. Anyway , I have not had a single bout of depression , which causes me to streak open -air putt putt facilities. Not indoor. Cures depression in Europe. They’d rather have homes broken into in the Bible Belt
I'm so glad to hear that your depression has left you. I figured out that because I have opoid use disorder thar without opiates in me, depression comes to me in the very darkest life ruining way. I have been on tramadol for 12 years and almost 2 years of that time I told my doctor I wanted off the tram. I had 3 major major foot surgeries in 2011. That's when he started me January 2011 on tramadol. Anyway the kratom worked miracles for withdrawal but I no longer could live with this unspeakable depression. I went back on tramadol in June 2022. I was convinced I could take them as prescribed. Well NO, NO, NO!! I absolutely couldn't. Tomorrow morning I have my very first suboxone appt. I'll be 60 soon. So maybe it would be worth it at this stage in my life to take suboxone indefinitely. I wouldn't wish that horrible depression on anyone. I will NOT go through depression like that again. Besides the fact that I desperately want to heal my brain from opoid use and abuse.
@@charlotteknutsen7262 in all honesty being on subs for the rest of your life is ok. I’m only 31 and I’m perfectly happy to be on subs for that long as well. Helps the depression in ways you didn’t think possible. I can get up and do what I want and need to do like never before and I don’t get any flak for being prescribed these things either. It’s ok to treat your problems if it’s in a way that works for you, don’t let anyone beat you down for it otherwise. Do whatever you need to do to live your life to the best you deserve you’ve earned it.
If you go on suboxone treatment, take the lowest mg possible and take it for for the least amount of time possible. Suboxone withdrawal is by far the worst after taking it for long periods of time.
Suboxone withdrawal is beyond hell
Tell them about how it kills away part of the brain.
Absolutely. You talk less...sometimes fearful of everything. Its scary when your not yourself.
I think you did the best thing you could for uour son.
That shit sucks in long term. Its OK for a temporary solution. Only long term solution is God and Church.
yea who do call when it's time to get of subs and its withdrawal time, another rehab..
Yeah dog ! Withdraw in safety. Suboxone withdrawal will bring you to your knees. Im 50 and I've been on it for 10 years and every time I try to get off Suboxone I'm in the psych ward within a month. I can't take it. It lasts forever. 6 months later I was contemplating suicide :(
There is no recreational use of opiots
Sad
Does anyone know if a doctor would start you on Suboxone if you have relapsed but on a very low dose, not enough to really experience withdrawals? Or after I have already detoxed? I’m looking at Suboxone more for maintenance and to reduce cravings and prevent further illegal drug use
I wouldnt get on suboxone. If you do dont take it long. It was designed for 5-6 days. If you take it very long its tougher to come off than other opiates and heroin
Hey guys I actually need help rn I’m losing it, I came back frm my home country clean 2 months off dilaudid/hydro morphine. And my friend one night passes me a super spicy chip or smt it was the worst, anyway I needed something to drink so I drank his drink and he told me he had hydro morphine inside 22days later still withdrawaling off one sip and it’s BAD. I want to know if I should try suboxone for 3-4 days or something and how long should someone take suboxone if they don’t want to be addicted to it all etc.
Truth to who?
Ima get fried off a piece if l get sad later
Suboxone is recovery, I'm sorry
Hersh, Hersh... 🤔
Suboxone is not recovery. Sorry
Legal drug dealers
This is a lie I take subs and I be high as hell no 🧢 they get me higher then percocets I wanna buy some more but I don’t get them prescribed I stole them
I got em right here. I get 90 a month
It is not hard.....but needs a time a discipline, will......to cutting dosses slowly as possible,realy...realy slowely.
On such a wey,you will awoide all bad symptoms of going from Subuxone ore Subutex....to nothing👍🍀🙂
I just started today on the Suboxone what I love about it is that since it combined with naloxone. If you opioid it will automatically send you into withdrawals
That's not entirely true u just don't get as high.
I will pray for you. Subs are the devil.
Update? How are u doing? Sending love and prayers.
@@MrJoelalfa you must not understand addiction. Subs are risk management to saving lives. I'm assuming you're Christian so you should probably get on board with the being humane thing.
@@jessicataylor1930 I think I am qualified to understand addiction. I was an addict for 20 years. Suboxone is just another addiction, and way more addictive.
Recovering Heroin and Fentanyl addict here, been clean for over a year now thanks to Suboxone. It takes away all of my cravings, helps with my anxiety, and has made my depression disappear for the most part. I pay $100 once a month to see my doc, and am currently on 8mg per day. Suboxone saved my life.
Congrats. I took it for 16 years. Tapered off Nov. 2022.
Mycelium_mum21 helped me get off suboxene with 🍄
She on I.G