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Derek Lambert you said you went cold turkey mate I’ve seen a lot of your videos
Im trying to get off heroin..using kratom for now.
Ashley Obrien Boiron homeopathic remedies are great for various things. Kratom is good. Albizia relaxes you. 20,000 high dose vitamin D is amazing it takes months for vitamin d to build to toxic levels so high dosing for a few days is great for almost anything. Shortness of breath, anxiety, it just gives you a healthy feeling. Spirulina powder is Amazing.
@@jpeezy117 thank you for tge info . I had no idea what Spirulina was i had to look it up. But yeah vitamin c and d i heard helps along with L tyrosine and clonidine.
Derek Lambert I wouldn’t wish PW’s on anyone in this world. The worst!!! Thanks for the videos and congrats on your success.
It took me months to stop being sick off of suboxone. I was down to only 2mg (when they were the pills) and I was so sick for so long, much longer than just going through heroin detox. I thankfully, by the power of God, stuck it out and didn't ever take suboxone again or use heroin. I never wanted to be dope sick ever again and I knew if I used I'd start that cycle all over. I'm here, almost 14yrs clean and so greatful. Thank you for sharing your experiences too. God bless.
Im on Subs i feel like a zombie. What is it like afterwards compared to bein on Subs?
You are an amazing inspiration for me I have been using MAT Suboxone/methadone off and on for years it's tough to get off of for sure. More power to ya
are you ok? im on suboxone now but i want to quit give me some tips please
The hardest part of withdrawals is knowing you stop it all by just using....gone
yea im always thinking while im withdrawing, "I dont need to quit heroin now, I can just quit next week" so I just end up going to buy a bag. its like a never ending process of trying to quit
Exactly all the pain can go away with 1 call. So hard
Will power guys you can do it sober life is so much better
Tito frost hope u stopped man!
putridpeasant just like Magic. But we knowbetter
Restless legs is brutal and its the worst symptom for me
Like hell on earth no one will ever have any idea.
@Audi1 I've been there too. It's the absolute worst feeling I've ever felt and it comes on quickly and sends you right into the deep end of WD. What a f*ckin nightmare!
@Glow Bright oh the fentanyl pressed M30s I was taking was cut with PCP, Suboxone, fentanyl, and oxycodone all in one pill. That withdrawal was gruesome. I put myself into precipitated withdrawal intentionally to suffer and learn
I made videos on my channel throughout that whole thing and more
Your overall mindset and dedication to these videos is very contagious. Love the work you are putting into this project. Thanks.
This guy deserves more subscriptions
The pain killers used to give me that 'up' 'energy' feeling, like while on it you had that feeling you really had something to look forward to whilst being in the 'now' moment. That doesn't happen anymore.
@@JoeSmith-ue1gm It's tough. I was on some sort of opiates for so long and tried to quit so many times on my own. I could quit and get past the withdrawal, but life just didn't give me any joy... So, I'm following the doctors orders now. I'm taking Sertraline and Suboxone and following the system's rules. It's been working out very well I have to admit. When I'm ready I'll taper off Suboxone, but in the mean time I feel, at least, I'm doing it the 'right' way. I, personally, would suggest giving a try what I'm doing if you want to quit. Is it the right way? I don't know, but it's a way, and it's less stressful for me to live this way. I'm doing well.
Ah, yeah, and as people have mentioned, Kratom does help. I can get 110Grams for $45 where I live.
Where did the productivity go
@@JoeSmith-ue1gm you can man it just sucks if you have a job explaining your gonna be sick for a while is a hard one to explain
Can can totally relate. What I realised about that was when I was buzzed I got loads of stuff done BECAUSE I was buzzed & didnt feel any fatigue or boredom or resentment about the workload. I cooked, cleaned, got work done but boy was I a cranky-ass biyotch if anyone spoke to me!!!! When I used I wasnt into the whole nod-off thing. I used it to power through. Now I know that if I cant get through my chore-list without drugs - I reduce the friggin chore list!! Maybe Im not meant to be a Superwoman. Howbaout that ?!?!? If you feel like youre gonna break without some kinda of substance boost, 1. youre doing too much 2. Ask for help. Peace Love & Good Vibes xx
Your videos help more than you think. You are great with words and articulating the feelings that addicts deal with. Kind of soothing to hear you talk as I go through the tremors and awful psychological part of withdrawal. Thank you.
This video is just on time thanks Derek 👍
Bout to start Subs this weekend, brother. After years of multiple cold turkey WDs, psychotherapy, and various medications, I have finally settled on giving this a try. Say a prayer for me. Here we go, folks.
@Sid Treesin Thanks, bud. Means a lot. I went through precipitated withdrawal twice with Naltrexone and literally wanted to die. Glad to know ahead of time that I need to be cautious with this one as well. Yeah, I do not want the naloxone to wake up and bite me in the ass. Haha.
@Erik Olsen Brother, don't make fun of me, but kratom is what I've been stuck on for 7 years. I mean...major daily intake. I have zero ability to moderate this stuff. I switched from pharmaceuticals to kratom and just stayed there indefinitely. The cold turkey withdrawal was four weeks of living hell...worse than the pills for me. It can do wonders for so many people, but it just isn't a good fit for me any more.
@Erik Olsen Means a lot, man. I greatly appreciate it. I'm really excited to get out of this bad cycle though. I did for a while, but then old destructive habits crept back into my routine.
They work was a addict for 17-18 years only thing that helped me quit and stay off
@@jasonwood5321 Thanks, my friend. Hey, are their usually any nasty side effects when you start taking the Sub strips, or does it basically start working right away? Just curious. I'm going on my 11th year of alcoholism and addiction and very tired of this mess.
Wow, my man and my brother. I'm so proud of you and I hope your family and yourself are blessed a wonderful lifetime together free from that hell of addiction ever again! Mean it bro, love ya man and miss ya!
Hey Big D, watched a bunch of your content, loved your energy and plain spoken experience. Keep it going my man. Strength & power to you.
Just recently found you're channel derek thankyou for the "to the point", honest and brief truths of recovery, covering all formal aspects of multiple addictions, most helpful.
Regards greeneyedcat.
Those chills you are describing actually are painful. I had a severe infection from neck surgery. Hell I was so cold to the bone, I was shaking and my teeth were chattering. This heated blankets in the hospital feel awesome when you are freezing.
Yes thank god for those blankets! I had like 6 of them !
Also dnt apologize for a longer vid bro frfr this was ALL helpful to me.
You are 100% right about that little slight buzz/excitement with the suboxone..I’m with you on that..I totally understand what your saying bro..
Staying with close family members, being honest about your addiction, wanting to quit, knowing what you are doing is wrong, giving up the things that help with your addiction like money, car , bank card, phone. All sacrifices that is necessary to give you the best chance to detox and heal these things worked for me with the fact that my partner had full support in me and my young kids . The road is not easy but when you want to quit and have the desire it's your time...stay strong brothers
The realist comment I've read. I'm only on day 5 but everything you mentioned is exactly how its playing out for me. 15+ years of hardcore partying only been sober for 6 months 6 years ago. I really want it this time not because of being on probation like last time I want this for me and Family. God Bless you hope all is well and you're still sober.
@@humanitywillrise6931 hope you are well brother stay on that journey it is all worth it. 2 years sober this week
@@bloodandsweat111 Congratulations, That's awesome man. I hope I can make it 2 years and beyond myself. I'm on day 6 and feeling a heck of a lot better today and got decent sleep last night. Thanks for the positive vibes Brother.
@@humanitywillrise6931 just keep pushing man time will heal a lot of bumps and learning curves to come but all worth it brother.... Its more than possible
You dont even know how delightful you are, and brave. How cool. Keep being strong and honest...all of you out there. You are helping others find some hope.. I can tell you this secret that all of you struggling with addiction... that you are still in there, as you go in and out of the substances that have taken you over.. the opioids, once 20:46 you wrestle them off of your receptors,
and fight for your body back.You will find that you are still there. They have found the place in the brain on scans, that gets excited when you think of using that drug. They call it cravings, but in actual fact your brain has a place they've identified that sends out signals when you see or think of drugs or alcohol. This also will diminish and get better overtime.And it will be less susceptible to these thoughts.
Would you ever have done this drug if you knew that you would be screaming in pain every ten hours if you didn't run out and get it? If you understood that clearly ..of course you would not, so love your sweet inner self and keep spreading the great truth. Greed for undeserved wealth has driven the lowest humans on the planet to kill millions of people.
NEVER TAKE SUBS UNTIL YOUR WITHDRAWING PERIOD
Wait 15-20 hours. FYI everyone is different. Longer you wait obviously the better. DO NOT TRY BEFORE THE 12HR MARK
The flu and withdrawal are wayyy different. I'll take the flu any day over that hell
@@firstcavcoins3554 I've went into horrible PWD after waiting 24 hours! You have to be careful because a lot of dope has fent in it and with fent it takes over 72 hours before you can take a suboxone.
@@holymichael289 everyone is different. Depends if your system is used to subs and vice versa. So many factors involved. Always a roll of the dice
@@firstcavcoins3554 what about sleeping, does that period count? Or do I have to wait 12 hrs whilst awake?? That may seem dumb but I can sleep for 12 hours and not wake up once, but if I wait 12 hours whilst I'm awake, I will start to feel sick. So that's why I asked.
You have a great way of explain the feelings and the inner workings of the addict mind. Can also tell you work a program...keep doing what you are doing bro..great job!
youre a big inspo for me. i remember seeing your vids around 5 years ago and trying to do iit with you. im glad you got your life back. congrats!! i feel stuck on subs but i guess its ok. im scared to go off them.
You’re really good at this Derek. You could be a tv type personality if you ever wafted to be , news , narrator etc You don’t have a regional accent and that’s a critical thing in that world , plus you speak clearly , doesn’t seem forced at all. Bless up. 🙏🏽
I was addicted to pain killers for years. I agree with your assessment of Suboxone. Doesn’t get you high, but you do get a SLIGHT Euphoric feeling, especially when you first take it or increase your dosage. The energy is also correct. It’s a miracle drug. It really is.
Yes you get a slight buzz from it but there's a ceiling affect, with methadone same thing but you can die if take to much.
On point as always! I've been on suboxone 4 3yrs now. I've never even thought about getting off the subs. Bcuz I'm so scared of the pain & the possible relapse (bcuz I no myself 2 well). But hats off 2 u man! Literally! I'm dependent on suboxone the same exact way I was the opiates (pain killers). But the subs do make me feel normal. Unlike methadone. Methadone literally made me feel just as high as I did on oxys! Neways, praying 4 Kurt as always & God bless u & yours!🙏
@Andrew T Well I can say that nstead of taking 3 2mg strips a day like I'm prescribed. I take 1/2 of a strip 3x daily. So....
Your the first person that describes this and it relates to me. Understand completely about the energy,wouldn't be able to tell that u took it but def would know if u didn't.
Very true bro! I've gone through the same things but I've been on Suboxone for like 15+years. Wanted to get off but what you said, scared the crap out of me.
I want to come off these handcuffs once and for all
@Andrew Tess 👍
I'm on my 4th day of suboxone after doing opioids (hydrocodone) for 6 yrs... I've been feeling well, first 2 days had nausea but it passed. Thanks for the video brother
Between you and Ryan Donnelly I've stayed clean from opioid medication, see here in the UK I used to do round to different chemists to but multiple boxes of Ibuprofen and Codeine, ended up taking 100 tablets at once a day, I'm just over 5 months clean thanks to you guys, I'm on the BUP it does help me, I feel nervous though about coming down slowly but I'll do it because you guys inspire me, been watching you all for 7 months now so thank you
Spot on analysis, everything you said is absolutely spot on. Been on subs for 10 plus years and I still get energy from it.
michael knight 10 years??!! You could have stopped 9 years ago and felt eh for 2 days and be straight
I also been on them 10 years. 10 years too long. Lost my wife and kids because of it. Not my pill addiction but not being able to quit subs. Sucks ass
Omg the slight energy thing I can totally relate on man!
Dope is a narcotic, Alcohol is both a stimulant and a depressant. Bupe/subs are antagonist for some opioid receptors including my which s the one that gives you the buzz with h/ opioids and agonist to some other receptors. Whatever works. If you can kick do it if not subs and domes will help drop the needle. Emphasis on help. May feel like purgatory but it’s better than hell!
Back pain and restlessness Was the worst of my withdrawals. Soboxone has a really bad withdrawl. It took me month and a half to feel somewhat right after withdrawing from soboxone itself . Most of what this guy is saying is Accurate
The mental “detox” is very similar to people who suffer from anxiety and panic attacks it’s a feeling that at any second you’re going to just die.people suffer this everyday for the rest of there life so just man up and stop smoking,suffer the consequences of your actions and accept that your not going to feel good every day of your life. You’re taking drugs to get rid of a feeling that you have naturally when you’re sober.Keep yourself busy and find a meaning for your life to consume your thoughts with positive things.No excuses and good luck! Good video
Wow bro I have never commented on a video before but you have been such a encouragement I just had to say thanking you . Keep it up and thank you for sharing And helping others
I can relate to that energy feeling, if I got dope I work if I don't then I don't work....sad
In that cycle now. Except for with my home :'(
@@ashleighvinson5801 it sucks :(
@Glow Brightnot after killing that part of my brain through intentional precipitated withdrawal and suffering for 20 hours huffing nitrous oxide, chugging water and shitting. You want some fetty? Yeah ok
Hydrocodone got me buck with energy. I'd be washing my truck and waxing it 3 times. Once I started dropping Somas with the hydros all that energy was gone with Soma i just enjoyed the mouth open nod.
If you’ve never been through serious opiate withdrawals, it’s next to impossible to compare it to anything.
Aint lying there my friend. Absolutely nothing like it.
I get the energy bus you were speaking of. I recently went on methadone. After several attempts trying to get clean and pondering about methadone for 2 years I finally went on the program and it’s been the best decision I made in my life. It works for me I have my life back and it’s awesome.
Ok. All you have to do is wait until your into your opiate withdrawal then you can take Suboxone. Smart video, good job!! Opiate withdrawal feels like the flu. Plus youll have horrible anxiety and restlessness and insomnia so its kinda ike the flu but having the flu doesnt give you crippling blackness. This is one of the best videos Ive seen on opiates/withdrawal. 🌟🌟🌟🌟
I can totally relate to the energy that is felt by Opiates and Suboxone. That was one of the main reasons that I had stayed on them for a long period of time. When I finally decided to get into recovery, found out that I had an Immune System Disorder, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and was able to find a treatment that worked to elevate the symptoms. I have been clean for 5 years and will NEVER use again.
Going into treatment was one of the BEST decisions that I ever made.
Hey, dude...I'm currently detoxing but I am experiencing whqt you mentioned. Even when I'm sober I feel worn, tired, anxious and just not well. How did you heal yourself from that?
@DOiTAGAiN84 how long did you use for?
What you are experiencing right now is the opiates leaving your system. You are probably not able to sleep very well either, and you feel jittery or unsettled all the time.
For me, the symptoms lasted about two weeks before they completely went away. It is normal to feel the way you do. It is going to be tough, but you will get through it. Whatever you do, don't use to get rid of the symptoms. I made that mistake at first. I thought that's I could use it once just to get rid of the symptoms for a day and then not use anymore, big mistake.
@bigjohn1129 hey, brother. Thank you for the reply. I've had gotten a year of sobriety quite a few times but unfortunately after a year or so I go back out. It's pathetic, really. This time around I was using both suboxone and xanax, multiple doses a day for roughly 6 months. I am on day 3. Thank God, I have 6 more days before I go back to work. It's not that often when I have this much time off of work so the time to do this is now. But for me, I've always experienced fatigue, even after a long period of sobriety. There's been a few times I hopped back on the subs, main reason being it boosts my energy and motivation. But as we know, things start going down hill fast.
I think part of the pain is knowing where relief is. Knowing where full relief is knaws at us when we try to kick.
You said it perfectly.
Best wishes - thank you for sharing and being real ⭐️❤️
Hi Derek, great video.
I was a IV Heroin addict for 20 years. I have been on 140 mg. Of methadone for 9 years. I was on 24 mg. Of suboxone a day for 3 months. I just didn't like the suboxone. My Doctor told me methadone was better for long term addicts. Whenever I was in withdrawal, my blood pressure would start to rise..awful.
When you were talking about the mental part of withdrawal, I related!! The knowledge i could get better if I used, would torment me!
Went through precipitated withdrawal a month ago. Took 10 fentanyl pills a day...actually who knows what was in those things. took suboxone 12 hrs after my last dose and OH MY GOD. I never knew that much suffering even is possible. It was very traumatic to say the least. Looked like I was going through intense exorcism. I was screaming and thrashing into the walls breaking everything from trying to walk and not being able to because i was so dizzy and sick. Man. So glad to be away!!
Do you think it was because you took a whole strip? What if you took a small piece of a strip 12hrs after
Took it to soon I would think,,,I've heard 24 hrs !!!! I heard it's pure hell to get precipitated withdrawal!¡! Glad you made it !!
@6skw he prpbably took it as prescribed and withdrawled from the naloxone (opioid blocker)
I was at ten a day too blues and withdrawl was fucked
@@6skwwell idk they may have drug tested him and idk if these laws are regional but for me i have to wait 3 or 4days after last use to start using suboxone
Thanks for the support I’m struggling to get to my refill date and I’m highly dependent on benzos and suboxone& kratom. I was a iv heroin user and without suboxone and kratom I would probably be dead
hello how are you doing? im on suboxone but want to get off so how did you do it?
Wow...im a decade long addict...including a dependency to suboxone. And this is the first time, in a public forum as open As you tube that I heard it told 100% no BS. And it is refreshing and brave to see it done this way. Good job bud. It works if you work it... See you on the other side
Thanks my brother, very informative 🙌🏿✊🏿💜
Suboxone got me clean 10 years ago and I've been on it ever since. It has been a blessing for me I don't plan on coming off it unless my doctor moves or dies. I haven't gone more than 2 days without it and the withdrawals were nowhere near as bad as hydrocodone and oxy but I don't want to know how full withdrawal feels.
I remember being low on money and having to miss my methadone dose. I thought I was lucky to find a subutex for cheap on the street to hold me over until I could go back to the clinic to dose. Oh my god...it was the worst possible thing I could've done. The precipitated wd's were pure agony, worse than hell. The worst acute wd I ever experienced times 100 and it all hit at once. Every twitch led to me expelling every bodily fluid all at once. I'm not religious but man was I praying to god, begging him to help me with tears in my eyes.
So yeah, if you're going to try Subs then WAIT itherwise the pwd will be much worse than whatever pre acute stage you're in.
Yea plus with methadone you wanna wait at LEAST like 52 hours and even then it’s iffy… daaaamn
@@bms77 I waited like 40ish and that wasn't nearly enough. After going thru that I would be nervous even after 72 hours.
I waited 48 hours to use Suboxone and omg was that one of the worst decisions of my entire life. The withdrawal was 1000% worse than any other time I ever withdrawn before. Even after a week of taking the Suboxone I was still insanely sick. It just doesn't work for me at all.
Helpful upload , thank you. 🙏🏽
My ex husband was on subs for over 8 yrs and used kratom to get off of them. I would have bet my life's savings that he wouldn't be able to come off of them because he said that they were way harder to stop taking than the lortabs he had been on. Im not an addict but i was with one for 20 yrs and I've been a nurse for 25 and i can tell you i learned way more about the meds and addiction from living with him and seeing how easy it happened than i ever had from all my yrs as a nurse. Great video. Very informative and made it easy to follow. To all of you fighting this monster my prayers are with you and whatever works to help you then go for it. I know its damn near impossible to think about but you can do it and you are worth it !
Dude, percs had me WIRED. I used to take a perc 7 and stare at my computer for 12 hours
Just 1 perc. Those are rookie numbers
@@alienslime8119 It was only the first time. I can sniff a whole inch rail of heroin and be fine. ofc the shir here is super stepped on
It's a 7.5. their are no 7s.
@@truthmane1018 we all know this buddy
I am going through suboxone withdrawal as I write this, it's hell, it did get me clean from, oxy, and other pain meds, it does work for that, my advice is find a doctor who actually cares about your recovery, mine only cared about the money, and this is one reason I couldn't tamper off slow, day 3 of withdrawal, pure hell, good luck to anyone trying to recover as I am, we can do it
How are you doing now!?
Thanks for the video bro. I've been smoking for about 6 years now but I gotta get clean for probation. I got me a strip so I hope the withdraws will be a little easier to deal with. Wish me luck.
What's up Derek.. Yeah man with subs I always chased that little rush of optimism u get from them after like 45 minutes. Since all opies are THE best antidepressant there is. But then after that u don't notice anything except that you're not dope sick anymore and can function normally. But you're still craving the warm rush from opies, that never goes away.
Dude, so true, after coming of codeine and suboxone a year on still felt flat. I was just sitting on the coach expecting to feel great, you need to push in to fitness, or a hobby and you will get a natural buzz again, but you cant just sit around after going clean and wait for magic to happen to make you feel a buzz gain.
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"earn your dopamine" is a phrase I like.
Dumbass won't lmk how to get past paws I'm asking how u used both
I had a huge codeine problem (about 500mg a day) and was recently put on subutex for it. Im currently on 4mg a day and they make me feel great, no withdrawals, they give me a huge energy spike and I become very productive on it. Were you also put on subs for codeine addiction ?
Exactly bro. Gotta get those endorphins and dopamine flowin again.
Love from warrnambool, Australia
Good job buddy, good job
Thank you soooo much, this video is awesome.. I'm trying to help someone and this is perfect. God bless you 🙏 ❤ always!!!
Worse I ever had was precipitated withdrawl from fentnyl from
Subs... it gave me ptsd... it was fucking brutal, and it was the last
Time... 53 days
ANd I’ve had precipitated about 5 times..
The thing about precipitated.. if you
Got the balls it will shorten the worse part of regular withdrawl it all happens within 12-24 hours.. my fentynl precipated
Was soo bad I was having seizures and all I could was surrender I couldn’t even think straight the pain and my body movement was on
Levels
I’ve
Never experienced .. that was my last time
And since then I’ve been clean...
I went thru the precipated with drawl ... then I hit the methadone clinic for 5 days that’s it do not stay longer.. stayed home for a week and went back to work it’s been tough my sleep still isn’t 100 I didn’t sleep last night, the day before I sleep all night.. but my body is calm.. my mind is good..
I took a fake perc with Fentanyl in it and then I took a sub too soon, unbeknownst to me. I am clean for many years but I had been through withdrawals a bunch of times. Nothing I have ever been through even added up came anywhere near what I went through when I was in precipitated withdrawals. I don’t think there’s anything worse. You go from 0-1000 in seconds. I actually contemplated suicide. That’s how bad it was. That was the last time I ever took a pill and I’m supposed to be prescribed them for pain. I refuse. I will never ever ever take that chance again.
So glad to hear someone else talk about this pain… ER to the psych ward.. no one understood… and I’ve had natural child birth after a v-back
I relate I use to take oxys for work cause I felt now aches our pains . Im on methadone it really saved my life I'm weening down right now
I totally understand what you mean about having a little Suboxone buzz. 4 years later and I still chase it, that what makes tapering almost impossible, but I have willpower lol
Sir you really said a mouth full, you really broke it down how it is. I am now to the point I might have to take a little tiny piece here and there. Depending on the weather, because I have Arthritis and some days are easier than other days, sometimes I go a few days and maybe take a couple tylenol and I'm ok, thanks be to GOD. I never had to go to Re-hab, but for real people have to want to do better. You know what I'm saying? They have to be tired of being tired, I started going back to church, reading my Bible, and things are so much better. I thank you for speaking out Great Job. God Bless You.🙏🏿♥️
I’ve watched all those early videos a number of times. I remember the one outside the meeting. Kurt was 2 days off it if I remember right. You looked better. Was that before or after the day 5 video you did at night on your couch?? Putting cigarettes out on the banana!!
I think the AA meeting was after
Derek Lambert cool. The transformation from how you were in that day 5 video to now is brilliant. That gives people inspiration. It’s a shame I’m in England and not over in the United States because I was doing it for almost 20 years and I feel that I’ve got a lot to offer in regards to what drugs do, withdrawals, how to get off and stay off the gear etc. Anyway respect for what you are doing mate.
Suboxone taper saved my life, best choice I ever made to get clean
Hey Johnny G how did you do your taper
Thw energy buzz was spot on
This dude ain't lying I'm detoxing right know I'm 3 days in and it's has been hell and I have been on it for 2 in a half years and it sucks
I got clean for 2 years one time and 15 months another time on subs and about to start another run tomorrow on subs hopefully 3 or more years this time
I really hope you are doing well now
How are you doing now brother
@@WV_Raised1983 8 months clean on the 27th irs been tough appreciate u asking
@@Wshbeodbxn 8 months clean on the 27th waiting in line for Jordan 11 Jubilee RN appreciate u asking
@@MaxAir365 I'm glad to hear that and proud of you. Just remember take it one day at a time and if you slip up just pick yourself back up it happens to the best of us.
I took my last shot of H and 19 hours later still wasn’t sick to take the sub. Somehow I thought I would bypass the withdrawals cause it had been 19 hours! Ahhh hell no!! About 15 mins later the precipitated withdrawals hit like a f**ken train!! Those were on a different level completely! Worst WD’s I’ve ever been through. No way in hell I could make it to the bathroom. I had to put a garbage can beside my bed and I barely made that. Worst part is I had to be completely quiet cause the guy I was living with told me I couldn’t live there if I started using again. FRIGON BRUTAL
Yea I know what you mean I was using fentanyl and the next day at about 10 in the morning took my strip and about 45 mins later i felt like complete death it was terrible but it definitely taught me a lesson lol
Yes, because the Buprenorphine is pushing out the other opiate molecules. The Buprenorphine will eventually replace the other opiates in about 45 mins to an hour. I've been through 2 of those "instant" withdrawls because I took a suboxone to soon. It's literally like day 3 of cold Turkey withdrawls in 5 minutes, it's horrible and it fucks with your mind even after the worst is over, it was a really weird day.
I hope you made it through. Did gram a day and took 16mgs right after doing my last 10th went through horrible pws then all the withdrawals. About 7 days with 0 sleep room a full month to get more than 4 hours a night sleep. Almost 2 years clean now tho. Hope everyone is winning their own battle.
I just went thru my 4th precipitated withdrawal in the past 8 months, Ive been trying to clean so badly but everytime I wait as long as possible I go thru the precip wd’s even after waiting 40 hours to induct on subutex too
Man I used to be okay to take suboxone after 12 hours, or even the morning after a late night of using. Now, years later after relapsing & continued use, I discovered it takes over 24 hours, even 36 hours before I'm able to take it. I think it either has to do with using higher amounts, slower metabolism, or even just the fact of being blocked up/constipated since a lot of drugs leave your system through bowels.... go figure.
I love you just happened to run into this video I'm clean 12 years still on the suboxone I feel like it's a life sentence but it works for me I really appreciate and find what you're saying very helpful thank you best to you
You are the best, I’m glad you posted this D! ❤️🦋
I was on opana ER and immediate release. Suboxone definitely gives you energy, or at least it did me.
Thank you so much
Hey derek love ur vids so relatable and thanks for the great advise. Im A fan from scotland
Man you are spot on! I’m on Suboxone and sometimes don’t get that fulfilling feeling then I relapse on fentanyl or heroin. I feel like I bounce around depending on what I can afford at the time. It’s a difficult struggle
Great Video, Derek!😁 messed around with suboxone at end of Narcotics usage😳.. gone through acute withdraw many times 👹. planning on producing video on my channel.. Keep it goin bro..🎉 U are inspirational motivation Bro.😁 I gotta get up to connect... Im passed the acute withdraw. Changed man I am. Keep up Bro🌇🌆🎇🎆😁😝😆😜😀🔮
@jay s Hey Jay! I just subscribed to your channel. Your comments are not showing up in the comment section. Idk?
@@CMoore8539 Hi Cindy😁
The first time I ever took suboxone, I was high for like two days. Like, just as if not more intense than painkillers. I've now been on suboxone for a while (prescribed 5 mgs a day). It is basically like having a cup of coffee in the morning at this point. I'm dependent, but I don't care. My life is in a good spot and I'm not doing drugs or drinking. Maybe one day I'll get off subs, but not for now.
Suboxone was originally created for long term use. I would rather take suboxone everyday for the rest of my life then turn to the alternative. You're doing what is right for you and you have my full support.
@@catherineervin2630 thank you. Would love to discuss.
totally get it brother!!!
Very good flow ... I have those who do not go to the psychologist for depression and I thought about starting suboxone without having any experience with opioids ... I have been drinking for 3 years and in the last month I have stopped suboxone and am drinking eros but I see to spoil a lot of money and to conclude it's not worth it ... My fear was the duck and I'm generally bored with the addiction and this fresh ... I'm in my limit I want to be free of all starting to feel like a kid. I helped you with the videos Thank you for your offer on youtube ..
but that kept me for a little over a month after I had open-ended thoughts
Subs do give you a little oxy type energy buzz. Been on them for a year- started on 12mg a day, now down to 6mg. Its a great drug and can save your life if you have consistent, legitimate access to it.
I was on 150mg Oxy for 6 years before going to Suboxone. Suboxone saved my life, I only take 2MG and I know exactly what you are taking about. I get quite a bit of excitement and sometimes high from Suboxone. It's a good drug if you use it right (as prescribed) and it will save your life.
Does it work over time?
@@kimfuruwal9285 suboxone should be used to get you off of drugs. Long term use isn't good for you.
@@kimfuruwal9285 bone density and teeth enamel are slowing chipping away. You definitely need to stop when you feel like you can safely be tapered off by a doctor's view point . You know when you're ready to be off. I say a year or two years max then it should be tapered off.
@@nikkidawson1788 are you a dr? Many people are on subs for life. It's like insulin for a diabetic. I was told by my Dr that they prefer for people to stay on it. Everyone is different.
Wow 2mgs? That’s great.
Please don’t fear losing your job trying to get clean. In the USA it’s illegal to fire someone that’s seeking treatment and as long as your in a program you can collect short term disability or FMLA.
Thank you, as usual
Dam your beautiful gurl
Feeling 'ICY HOT ' is such a crappy feeling that is hard to describe to folks that haven't experienced it.
Man, i can totally relate to everything you said in this video, using heroin on top of my subutex and getting a slight buzz because of my receptors being mostly blocked, and then getting that wierd feeling, like the drugs are fighting each other, all because i couldn't shake the absolute obsession to use. On 6mg subutex now and slowly tapering.
Hi I'm just tired of being tired I'm day 3 off of Fentanyl patches and my head feels clear body feels like a mack truck just keep rolling over me. I have patches but refusing to use them. I want off. I just wish I could not feel so badly. My mom is keeping me positive. But your right you need a support system and where I live there's no AA or NA. If you can give a suggestion for more support I'd appreciate it greatly. I'm fighting this fight and yes I an epidemic. I have chronic pain what am I going to do for that idk as of now but this is worst then just that physical pain. I love your videos. I feel like crap but I know everyday that I don't put a patch on is one more day closer to feeling better. Thank you.
I can relate to a lot of what you are saying. It also sucks when you are so cold but then put on blankets and get hot, then cold, then hot. I think it’s called cold sweats. It’s the worst. You are very handsome by the way (:
Had 7 years clean and been fucking up on and off for the past year and a half. Fuck around for 3-5 days then stop for a week, then back to it for 3-5 days of using. I cannot wrap my head around why I always go back. It drives me insane and I'm on 30 hours since I last used. Somehow I'm not feeling all that bad yet but man I just want to be done so bad. Thanks for the videos man. It's helping me keep my mind in the right place.
IMO, I can get about 30-40% of the euphoria with suboxone as I would get with pain killers if I ever overtook my normal suboxone dose. Some people say they never get high off their suboxone which blows my mind. It was much less of a high for me, but it def got me buzzing and for much longer then full opiates. With the long half life I was high for 24 hrs the first time I took 8 mg strip. About 6 years ago. Also, whenever I took even 1 mg of suboxone in a day, it would block ALL euphoria whenever I tried to get high off pain killers. It def does its job with blocking euphoria from pills. Even low dose sub is a good insurance policy for MOST people. Esp once they realize trying to get high with subs in their system is not possible. Suboxone withdrawal even at .25 mg was a BIG challenge for me. I was amazed how challenging it was for such a tiny dose. Good luck guys. This is just my 2 cents.
Boooo!
I def cstch a noticeable buzz from Subutex when i over take but not Suboxone, don't know why unless it has to do with the Naloxone
I’ve been on subutex for almost 5 years now. I would love to get off of it but every time Ive tried the withdrawals are just so bad that I haven’t been able to get through it, especially since I have 3 kids to take care of. I do think it’s helped a lot but now it’s just kind of a burden..
I was forced to quit suboxone when I lost my supplier even though I thought I could ween off it eventually. I was down to like 1/16th of a 8mg piece till I ran out. The withdrawal was very difficult and I agree don’t do it alone, but it can be done, it might take several days to feel normal but the painful part is only for up to the first 48hrs. The mental depression after the hard part is what last the longest. Depending on how active you are can determine how long it will last. And you might not get good sleep for a month, but each day gets a little better. I’m 36 and have been addicted to drugs and alcohol for 18 years. I have some tips for getting through the withdrawals and was so glad to get clean just to not have to live with that dependence. And yeah shortly after I was messing around with some Percocets thinking I couldn’t get addicted from a few 5mgs, but I did and I thought I can just do a suboxone detox, a fast taper, and not feel bad. Well yeah when I was in withdrawal from the opiates I took the suboxone worked. I did it for 3 days each day taking less, and then I stopped. Well the withdrawals came back, maybe not as severe, but yeah the cold sweats, no appetite, stomach cramps, etc. I felt so ashamed so I told myself never again. It hasn’t been an incredibly long time about 7 months, but I’m so happy to not have that monkey on my back anymore. Good luck. Plan and get your mindset right first.
@@JasonT7139thank you! I do hope to get off of them soon. I am terrified of it but know I will have to face it eventually. I have tried a few times but after 5 or 6 days the withdrawals get so bad that I give in everytime. The restless legs/ body is probably the worst for me and that’s the main reason I haven’t gotten through it yet. I’m definitely open to any suggestions on how to make withdrawals somewhat bearable.
I got down to little tiny sliver every other day for a few weeks and last was gone , right back on dope. Im on subs now. It all sucks
@@ManicMama. get at me when you can, need to speak regarding getting off and the RLS, those are the worst for me too!
You saved my life D....
This video is making me feel better, doing the micro dosing now. The Bernese method to get back on Suboxone. It's worked for me for 10 years. PW is HELL!
Precipitated withdrawl IS HELL, worse than withdrawal and pretty much worse thab cotton fever. I went on subs once fine, tried the second time and i went into precip in the docs office and just ran out, didn't have money, good thing I have a dealer that fronts me no matter what, took a lot of dope to get back to normal but omg it was fucking bad
You know the beast
@@DerekLambertRecovery all too well
Did you get back on subs I just did the same thing waited 30 hours and went into precip
@@snickerszn8459 ended up just back on heroin
@Jack Meoff yeah subs worked the first time did 2 years in college got my life together but by the 3rd year i started shooting the subs and it all went bad from there if subs work people shouldn't be more than a year because it just becomes a new addiction now i just go cold turkey to kick its the only for for me to not trade one addiction for another and precipitated wds have a lot to do with if its heroin, fent, methadone, etc. Depending on which one some need you to be off longer before starting subs
I can just tell by how my body feels when I know it’s a good time to take sub.
Is it the rapid heartbeat and irritability phase that let's u know u can take the suboxone?
Yea that’s diffinitly some phases but everybody’s body is different.
I just start to feel groggy if I am ready for my dose but if I am active and switching to subs I get diarrhea and that’s when I know I’m ready
@Glow Bright Yes maam. Same here. Struggled with suboxone for MAT and decided to do methadone instead and stay on it only as long as I need and then taper off with my clinic and with the help of the amazing nurses/counselors there. I’ve also tried cold turkey and both times made it only 6 months before I couldn’t handle PAWs. I didn’t want to do MAT and had skewed views on it and everything. But there is no wrong way to do recovery and to achieve sobriety. It’s legal medication in OUR names so we cannot listen to the stigmas.
@@bailey490 I was on varying doses of the Fentanyl patches for 10 years due to severe back pain that was not helped by epidurals or spinal fusion surgery. I have been off Fentanyl completely for almost 2 years now, but still have tremendous pain in my legs due to small fiber neuropathy and the only thing that helps that pain is Lyrica. I also take 2-4mg of Suboxone daily to help with my back pain so I can get a little bit of sleep. I have gained A LOT of weight since being off Fentanyl and also from taking Lyrica, as well as a few different antidepressants over a 6 month period last year which I had to stop taking because they all raised my blood sugar (I'm a type 1 diabetic).
I was the same way. perc and Fent would give me crazy energy, my suboxone does the same thing. it makes it that much harder to get 100% clean. I'm almost 7 years clean but now I'm stuck on suboxone. I do not remember what normal is supposed to feel like, my journey started 19 years ago. I can't wait to break the cycle and free myself from suboxones chains
Thank you very much brother and love you too
Withdrawals feel like someone ripped out your soul and put a block of ice in there and it's just slowly dripping and you're freezing and covered in Goosebumps and sneezing and shaking and sweating and can't sleep and everything hurts and it totally, totally sucks!!!(~);}
I’m 10 years on suboxone and I want off so bad! 2mlg a day
That shouldn't be a hard long taper ;-)
No?
@Romeo 300 I don’t know! I’m afraid to quit
@Romeo 300 wait, what do u mean
I feel you on just trying to be normal on suboxone or perks or whatever. Dude it sucks. I'm so scared to come off the subs cuz it's the worst withdrawal I've ever been through
Precip wd was the absolutely worst wd I've ever had in my life!! If you take subs after an opiate you have to wait atleast 24 hours after you last took an opiate. I swear it gave me ptsd. It was so bad that I'm now scared to ever get back into that vicious cycle of taking breaks from opiates with subs. It scared me straight to the point i don't want to go near an opiate ever again because I'm so scared I'll go through wd again. So in a way my f"ck up actually changed me for the better. REMEMBER neverrr take a sub too early. Wait 12 to 24 hours or more or you will regret it. Precip wd is about 100 x's worse than regular wd. My advice is to not even wean off an opiate. Just go through the pain and insomnia. After you finally get a good night sleep you're outa the woods. Good luck my friends!
I agree about that little energy high you get from soboxone especially I notice when I take my first dose in the morning .
Yeah I must be built different because I sleep on coffee but... Morphine and bupronorphine act as a stim until the respiratory rate drops. Yeah I get major insomnia on subs. Oxy's and subs are the stim fam of the opiods
@@shaleenacampbell-case4589 Only if you take them every few months or something crazy. I've been on them for like a year and no way am I hyped like I used to be. They used to get me so hyped I couldn't sleep at night.
@@shaleenacampbell-case4589 I was on pills and then H. It stimulated me, I cleaned from top to bottom and was soo energetic. of course beyond a certain level I was stoned but I dislike stoning. I'm on Methadone for 3.5 yes..just about to switch to Subi but does it give the same energy boost and @ntidepressant and warmth like Methadone?
The hot and cold sweat with that horrendous anxiety that we feel is the worst part for me
10years on them and my supply line got smaller and smaller ! so iwent through withdrawal almost every week for a year! Taking less and.less every time till I had no supply line at all! So i.decided to just stop and it was very mild and i.forced my self.to keep moving to get my adrenaline to help and it was not bad by luck ! i know it's not simple but these substances only use what we already have and it's just a shortcut that never gets ya home faster! Much respect to this channel and wish everyone good fortune !
Hey Stefan how much suboxone did you come down to before you jumped off