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Paul Atreides unites with Chani and the Fremen while seeking revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his family. Facing a choice between the love of his life and the fate of the universe, he must prevent a terrible future only he can foresee.
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Yall were not lying!! I don’t know how but Dune Part Two managed to be greater and more epic than Part One. I can’t count how many times this movie had me screaming and left me with goosebumps🔥 Denis is incredible! Where did you think of the film? Let me hear your thoughts in the comments. Thanks for watching
well, considering the book, this is a very, very, very good adaptation. that tells something about the book, right? great reaction btw.
We all living in lies.
@@Danilo-u7f To me it's middle finger to dune book readers.
Just to answer your question about why the worms don't dive under the sand when being ridden: the Maker Hooks are the tool preventing that. The worms of Dune have very sensitive mucous membranes underneath their hard, almost stone-like exterior plating. These plates overlap. When the plate are pulled apart by the Maker Hooks, those sensitive mucous membranes are exposed to the abrasive, harsh sand, discouraging the Worm from diving beneath to sand, to avoid discomfort. Itchy Worms = Desert Uber for the Fremen 🙏
It's like trying to scuba dive, while some tiny hitchhiker is clinging to your head, yanking your lips open with a cocktail stick.
@@Musabre lol I absolutely love this visual
Thanks for elaborating that makes a lot of sense. Desert Uber it was a great touch haha
There is, as we saw in the first half (Dune 1) when Paul was met Shai-Hulud. That the is a spiritual relationship between them. So as for the relationship the worn and the rider in a higher power as with the spice relationship.
Leto is Paul's father, he just found out that his Mother, Jessica, was the daughter of the Baron. So, Paul has both bloodlines.
Gotcha
Seeing it in IMAX made such a big difference, one of the best theater experiences I ever had.
I can only imagine how glorious that was. definitely have to watch it if they rerelease it
same here
I almost shed a tear it was so engrossing in IMAX
I remember watching the worm riding scene and it literally felt like I was on the worm with Paul, legit had me squinting my eyes as if the sand was gonna get in
Your insight into the characters and stories involved keeps bringing me back. You got yourself a subscriber, keep it up Frank!
Welcome aboard my friend. Thank you for appreciating that.
In teh books Paul tells Chani that he will have to have a political marriage to Irulan but that it is in name only. He loves only Chani and Irulan will never bear children. The movie goes a different way where it looks like it will be an issue between Paul and Chani. Regardless though I am down.
Unbeknownst to Jessica, she is the daughter of Baron Harkonnen, so Paul is the offspring of Atreides AND Harknonen which always the plan of the Bene Gesserit, except they wanted a female child. The Baron is just Paul's Grandfather not his father. The conflict he is dealing with is that he has the blood of his sworn enemy in his veins but also that he see it was all engineered to be that way by the Bene Gesserit.
I think it is very important to understand the nature of Paul's vision before and after he takes the water of life. Before there was an uncertainty but after, Paul has true sight, he knows that there is only a single path that can lead to salvation if he is strong enough to take them down it, but the cost in general, but to him personally will be high. He had two choices, don't take the water of life and everything he cares about die, or take it and lose fewer people you care about. His vision isn't a trick it is absolute after the water of life is taken. He can't be tricked, because his vision is absolute, he the Kwisatz Haderach the Reverend Mother wanted but without the influence of the BG.
It reminds me of the choice Louise made in the The Arrival once she understand the alien language. It isn't as black and white as Paul chose to the villain, it is he has to be the villain now for a possibility of a better outcome later.
Thank you. absolutely love how you elaborated on that and the connection you made with Louise in arrival.
"He has to be the villain for the possibility of a better outcome later" is also what every fascist leader would say to justify himself. And Paul is indeed selfish as we learn when he clearly states that he wants to use the Fremen to get to the Emperor for revenge.
Also the mindset of becoming Harkonnen to survive the Harkonnen is opportunistic.
I LOVE how the Film in accordance to that depicts Paul as a mirror image of Fehyd Rautha: They are ruthless killers, that's why Fehyd respects him. And when Paul walks towards the Baron on the stairs in profile it is the same shot and the same gait as Fehyd in the Arena. When the Fremen shoot and later burn the Harkonnen those are the same pictures as from before when the Harkonnen killed the Atreides.
Also let's consider how Paul insults the Baron before he kills him like an animal. Or how he impatiently shouts and stomps at the emperor to kiss his ring - just like Fehyd made Raban kiss his feet.
...they are all the same, Paul is not the more decent person.
I think any moral statement about the characters remains vague and can be reinterpreted in different ways and that's something that gives fodder for thought and makes the story great.
Layers within layers 🙂
Cheers.
@@j.m.w.5064 I won't argue that Paul isn't fascist, because it's there. But to say that Paul and Feyd are the same is simplistic. Paul kills for necessity (or, if you're more cynical, for an objective), Feyd kills for pleasure. Paul is not a sociopath, he wrestles with the morality of his choices. That's a pretty big difference.
@@j.m.w.5064 He was not even villain if outcome later is better. He is simply just normal leader that wants to save humanity. That is not Fascism. Paul is not selfish, as he is dedicated with hard work. And Fremen were not used, since they became imperial army. Paul is the most decent person, that is the main reason why even Count Fenring refused to kill him after fight with Feyd, even though he was the only one who could. Golden Path was what is Paul's and his son's Leto 2nd plan to do. Great Houses invaded Arrakkis due to Paul being strict and controlled the spice. He commited genocide accross the Galaxy, but again it was necessary, since nobody listened the truth. Golden Path, since main threats were House IX and Bene Tleilaxu Ghoulas. Emperror who organized killing his father deserved to kneel and it's not comparable with Feyd. It's again not black and white. If Paul did not commit those actions, Galaxy and entire humanity would be wiped out.
@@melanie62954 Technically that is not fascism, but it is also not democracy either. It's not even Communism nor Socialism. It's simply Monarchy.
Sand Worms can not survive in water. In fact water is poisonous to them, even in small quantities.
That fact gets more important in the later books.
Good to know
It's so sad to think that in the pursuit of a "paradise on Arakkis" for the Fremen, they might end up having so much of their current culture destroyed! So much of Fremen culture revolves around the great sand worms and yet if the water they yearn for becomes a reality, then there will be no more Shai-Hulud.
No more teeth for sacred daggers, no more spice for their cultural practices, no more worm riding or calling to them for aid, no more use for sand walking.
Entire ways of being and connection will fade and disappear.
It hits especially hard due to the real life parallels of what colonization does: it flattens, assimilates, and erases cultures, whether intended or not.
No one is more progressive in the way they treat people, than a sci-fi writer. RIP Frank Herbert.
I heard that! 🙏🏾
Like Jessica said to Paul in the beginning of Dune Pt 1..."Almost". Herbert didn't get Gay people but then again neither did most people of his generation.
@@Stratocumulus25 Frank was actually very conservative and anti-gay, this has nothing to do with the Dune at all nor it ever had.
You mis-heard the Family history. Paul is the son of Leto. Jessica is the daughter of the Baron. Another case of the Bene Gs crossing bloodlines ....
Gotcha thanks. I love that you said Bene Gs 😂😂 that’s what I’m gonna start calling them
I know as an artist you gotta love the visuals in this film. The director does such an amazing job with world building and storytelling, that it’s almost like watching a dream come true
Not one wasted shot apparently. The movie was storyboarded in its entirety, and when a shot was changed or improved on the day, they went back and adjusted the story board to fit it. It's true what so many people say, nearly every frame of this movie is screenshot/wallpaper worthy :P
Most definitely my friend. It's like a moving art piece. denis it's just that guy
@@Musabre love to see it. It's remarkable artistry
I love your insights! Like you, I immediately appreciated the Fremen perspective of being suspicious toward these oppressors, even when they seem benevolent (which can sometimes be worse because it disguises the oppression). I appreciated that you honed into that dynamic, which is commentary missing from many reactions.
And I also like that you Pause to take your time giving your realtime thoughts. A lot of reactors don't pause and they sometimes miss details going by. Thanks for this great reaction. This film is a masterpiece!
Glad you enjoy it! 100%, I felt the need to elaborate on that point because it’s so important.
I really really appreciate viewers like you for acknowledging the importance of pausing and sharing those real-time thoughts. I literally just blocked someone who commented “You talk too much” lol my content is not for you then! So thank you thank you🤍
@@FrankFreezy_ Keep doin what you're doin!
The other people in the arena with the weird costumes are picadors. It comes from bullfighting, their job is to distract the bull if the bullfighter gets in trouble. Also they can slowly weaken him by sticking with those barbs. Bullfighting is a thing in the Dune universe- Leto's father was a bullfighter, there were bulls on his tomb and Leto brought the bull head to put in his hall when they went to Arrakis. They show it on the wall when Leto died.
The "Dances With Wolves" reference was spot on! For me, Costner's movie and Dune are some of the best in cinematic history! DWW has been in my top 5 for a very long time, and Dune will most assuredly end up in my top 10 of trilogies. ♥
I'm glad you picked that up. I absolutely loved Dances With The Wolves. The feeling of Paul being accepted gave me the same feeling of when Kostner renounced his name and said " this is the first time I have fought for a cause that actually meant something" I'm paraphrasing. But that was just beautiful
12:30 And this , i think, is one of the main reasons I find Villeneuve's Dune adaptation to be more effective at presenting Herbert's message with Dune, the warnings of charistmatic leaders, and all of that, than even the original novel was.
The book is glorious sci-fi, but These two movies really bring home the terrifying implications, and consequences of the fabricated-messiah concept. The dissent among the fremen, and expecially the perspective Villeneuve's Chani brings us, works amazingly well to shine a light on Paul's actions and motivations.
Also at 27:55 where you talk about feeling like we've lost Jessica, how she's someone else, and it's quite sad. That's exactly how i felt with Paul the first time i saw this, after he drinks the cool-aid. Even the cinematography pulls us away from Paul from that point onwards. We no longer share those intimate moments with him, instead we sort of watch from afare, much like Chani. It's a really effective and quite upsetting switch, very powerful moment in the movie. Makes you sort of miss the old Paul, the super likeable relatable Paul.
Cannot wait for how things are going to play out in the third installment. We can safely expect it won't just be a 1 for 1 retelling of Dune:Messiah, as so many threads and plots have been given a twist in these two movies so far.
Again, thanks for being willing to pause and give your thoughts, rather than rush or talk-over the movie. Makes for a great watch and listen.
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Herbert message is hypocritical since he himself was in the same we ll. Third installment will mess things up completely. After what they did to Chani, it will be worst of the worst, unless consumers would not bootlick. And what Paul did was justifiable for saving the mankind from extinction. In the Books Jessica remained the same, movie changed Chani and Jessica. Real book readers know how awful this movie is, unless they are willing to sell themselves.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller You have such poor grasp of the source material if those are your true feelings. You are completely missing the point of scrutinising Paul's forsight for the flawed narrative that it is. Noone is able to corroborate Paul's claims of the 'only way', outside of himself. THIS is the point of Herbert's warning and the theme of the DUne books. I'm sorry that you seem to have missed that and somehow bought into Paul's messiah complex, it's pretty funny to see if i'm honest though.
I don't take anyone seriously who presumes to be able to call one group 'real book readers' like that is somehow a call to authority though. We are all equally capable of absorbing the messages of a given piece of fiction, the difference here is i have Herbert's own publicaly known intentions and words backing up my perspective on it, while it seems you do not.
I like this reaction, Frank gets the spirit and subtext in this man
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40:29 fun fact : the second kiss was improvised by Austin Butler.
What a man. Excellent actor
Jessica is the daughter of the Baron, Leto IS Paul's father. So Paul is half Atrriedes from Leto and 1/2 Harkonen (from half of Jessica's parentage)(I mean really one quarter and one quarter if we are being accurate!
@14:20 I hate how the subtitles on the streamings say a Fedaykin fighters is whispering to the mouse when it is Paul who is whispering, which might be confusing to some people because later Shishakli makes a joke about how the mouse like's Paul's smell.
Also chani says her name means "desert flower its from an old prophecy " and the prophecy says the messiah will be saved from a "tear of the desert flower" which is literally the prophecy cone to life
Really appreciate your reactions and insights; how you picked up on the power dynamics between Paul, the Fremen and how ultimately, he exploits them for his own ends. Dune is a brilliant cautionary tale, just as you noted; oppression can be subtle or abrupt and those who claim to know and be all must absolutely be questioned for their motives. Also, the blue fabric that Chani wears is Freman custom, a symbol that she's in a relationship (with Paul). All the best.
Dune books came out before Star Wars was a thought. So it was the other way around.
Definitely inspired it in a lot of ways.
Frank,
I always love your insights. In the case of Dune (1 & 2), I wanted to point something out that most casual enjoyers and many fans alike are unaware:
Frank Herbert was HEAVILY influenced by the real life story and memoires of Thomas Edward Lawrence, aka "Lawrence of Arabia". I will assume you're somewhat familiar with the life of Lawrence, and see the parallels now they I've mentioned it.
Herbert's early drafts of "Dune" were based on the life of T. E. Lawrence.
Later iterations of the novel expanded the scope and depth of the story told in "Dune" thanks to Herbert's own gifts of imagination and creativity.
Thank you thank you. That makes a lot of sense actually. It's fascinating how Frank Herbert took that inspiration and created this piece of art.
@@FrankFreezy_ You're quite welcome. Another tidbit I forgot to share occurred to me when you mentioned you really liked the name Muad'Dib. I also heard an amazing name recently - an African lion known to game wardens as:
"Ntwadumela - "He Who Greets with Fire", a renowned hyena killer.
I don't know if anybody answered yet but the director of the movie said that when fremen women are in love they portray it by wearing the color blue, thats why we see chani start wearing that blue scarf after her and Paul kiss but at the end of the movie when she's calling the worm she's no longer wearing blue
49:27 Jessica is the dauther of Vladimir Harkonnen. Letto is Paul's father. It is the BG way of crossing the bloodlines.
Gotcha gotcha
as for both Paul's and jessica's change after they drink the water, we have to remember that becoming a reverend mother is gaining the memories of every single reverend mother that came before you AND the memories of all your female ancestors (for jessica), so the reason that she doesn't seem like herself anymore is because essentially she's no longer just herself, as she now has all the memories and thoughts and opinions of million of women, and the same thing goes for Paul except its even worse cause not only is it the memories of all reverend mothers and his female ancestors but also his male ancestors, he has basically become every single person in his bloodline that has ever lived coexisting in his mind, so he has stooped just being Paul, its why they call Jessica's baby an abomination as it will be impossible for a child that has not yet come into their own person to create their own sense of self while having these millions of people in their head before they're even born
I saw this film in IMAX 70MM. You cannot even begin to understand how amazing that experience was. I hope you get to watch the third film in IMAX.
Listing now....Great descriptions thanks..Paul is both Harkonen and Atrides
Thanks for watching🤍
Love your comment about Jessica! You're right, it's like she's not herself anymore, and there's no way to change it back!
"What did they do to Jessica, man?"
Jessica of Part 2 is very much an extreme distillation of the character and nearly everything is left out except how she uses the Bene Gesserit prophecy to keep herself and her children safe.
Book Jessica is way less crazy, and while she does stir the fanaticism of the Fremen as a reverand mother and mother of the mahdi she's so much more. Removing the time skip means that everything she has to do is crunched into a few months and she basically becomes a mouthpiece for Alia because both characters' plots are all but removed.
Not removed, adapted. Im not sure what the insistance is on describing things as being left-out. It's an adaptation, you can't cram a Dune novel sized script into a movie (Lynch tried, it doesn't work). Nothing is missing from Villeneuve's Dune 2 because the elements it focuses on are given the full limelight and treatment they need to be effective.
So in THIS telling of Dune, Jessica is indeed this slightly mad-sounding mouthpiece for unborn Alia, and that's awesome for what this version is doing with these characters.
@@Musabre The miniseries includes 90% of the book in 4.5 hours... which is less time than 21/24 combined. But tell me more about how Denis sacrifices substance for spectacle whenever possible 🤔
@@LordVolkov The miniseries is closer to the book but also a good example of why that isn't always the same as a great adaptation.
@@storkfletcher821 Any problems with the mini-series can be fixed with budget
They had to basically combine Jessica and Alia’s characters into Jessica since Alia is not born. So Jessica became as fanatical as Alia was in the book.
I would assume since they always win majority their battles with the oppressors they would keep the weapons and other useful items. Even their water.
This is true. Good point.
Love the reaction as always Frank ❤
To answer your question Fremen women wear blue when they are in love and not available 😃👍
I appreciate you. Wow that is such an awesome and beautiful detail. Thank you. Poor chani😫 the heartbreak is real
As others have commented Chani in the books is a ride or die. I think Chani's change is to telegraph to the audience that what Paul is doing isn't a good thing, which is sad but unfortunately some people still need everything spelled out for them. When Dune came out many people saw Paul as a hero, going against what Frank Herbert was trying to convey and so much so that Herbert wrote Dune: Messiah to cement the fact that Paul is most definitely not a hero. Oh and your Anakin remark is pretty spot on. George Lucas based Anakin's rise and fall on Paul's character.
Paul is not a hero but he's not a villain either. It's not black or white. Saying Paul is definitely not a hero implies you've misunderstood it just as much as the people saying he is. I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't read the books but he has to make touch choices for the greater good of humanity, even if those choices lead to bad things happening in the short term.
Chani in the books will cost new movie big time, wait and see. No matter how much you kiss Denis's ass. And Anakin is not spot on.
It seems you missed Jessicas devotion to the BG order in part 1. She always followed their ways.
Not to the extent as part 2 though right? Plus she went against their will to have a male son
@@FrankFreezy_ She also let that test happen to Paul. He could have died there if he would have failed. She let Gaius Helen Mohiam into the castle and lured Paul to her.
Leto never knew of this.
And in part 2 she follows the Missionaria Protectiva, the galaxy wide plan of the Bene Gesserit to plant this myth of the Messiah into all cultures and civilisations.
That is why Jessica knows their ancient "trigger words" in part 1 where she gets the gift of the dagger.
But they use this plan of the BGs against them and to their own advantage. The prophecy may be a "lie", but Paul is the Quisatz Haderach, he is the Lissan Al Gaib, he can see the future, he can change the reality (more in the books, in the movie its more subtextual) and he guides the Fremen into freedom.
I see a lot of ppl seeing the movie as "anti-religious" and I can see those points made in the movie, but they completely ignore the spiritual aspects of the story.
Frank Herbert saw the dangers of religion, but he also saw the potential of the human mind and soul. The books have even more mind altering substances and super human abilities.
I am already rambling on for too long. Jessica has a darker side to her, but she also loves her son so much and also does this darker deeds only to benefit him.
We will see what the third movie will tell, all I can say that all of her actions are reflected on in the future.
@@FrankFreezy_ In the book she was different, she did not use voice at all like this and Paul was willing himself to have desire to be leader.
@@mrmiesfies3941 Reverend Mothers of Arrakis are actually rebels and against the Bene Geserit orders and rules. Jessica is also among them. In the books Jessica has in fact lighter side than here. Chani has been totally ruined. Part 3 would be anything except the ''Dune''
Jessica was never Letos wife, only his concubine. The same is with Chani. And in the books she accepted that fact, because she knew that the Duke of house Atreides must use his marriage in a political way.
I don't know, I get the other changes to Chanis character compared to the books, but her being so frustrated at the end let her look a bit short sighted and petty. In the books she never questioned Pauls love and he only had her as his actual wife, the rest was just for the books and politics.
I don't want to say anything more, because that will probably be the story of part 3 and I don't want to spoil anything for you.
Part 3 will backstab entire book just like Part 1 and 2 did. if you are book reader you know that.
44:02 worms can't stand water, as ssen. this is simply the way of extracting a "water of life". but there is more to it... :)
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Thank you very much for your reaction. I very much like your thoughts on Paul and his way and I fully share your views on his story.
Gratitude my friend. Thanks for watching
I don’t know if this is a spoiler but, Paul isn’t trying to save de Fremen, he’s taking advantage of them 🥲🥲🥲
As epic as this adaptation of the book is, the book is 10x more.
Pauls story is just beginning. He didnt ascend to emporer, he ascended to god and brought the wrath and destruction he had foreseen. Billions die in his name, brwaking down the political power system that had been in Place for 10,000 years. He still cant see it through to the end, leaving it to his children to see it through, to make all the sacrifices find the golden path, to navigate humanity through the eye of the needle avoiding extinction.
It is beyond apocryphal.
Paul is no hero, beware worshipping charismatic leaders.
Technically he is, I don't care what Frank Herbert says, he is also charismatic douche and hypocrite. As a book reader both Leto 2nd and Paul are heroes.
You should definitely watch the making of the riding scene, makes the whole thing so much better
Yessss actually did few days ago and I totally enjoyed how Denis talked about all the elements
Jessica is the real hero for Humanity, she knew Leto would give her the seed to create Paul.
Cool reaction to an excellent movie! Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it thanks
Paul’s not seeing possible stuff anymore.. he sees the future 100%
ALLLL possible futures
That is terrifying
Having read the books, it's hard to tell how well the movie explains some things. Here's some lore you seem to have missed.
The Bene Geserit reverend mothers have the memories of all their female ancestors. That's what happened to Jessica when she drinks the blue water. That she is pregnant also awakens this memory and brings consciousness to her fetal child. So yes, Jessica is changed because her personality is now those of her and the reverend mothers before her.
The Bene Geserit have had a thousand year breeding program to make the Kwesats Hadderact (sp?). The KH is meant to be able to have the memory of all their ancestors, not just the women. Paul ( who was supposed to be a girl ) was meant to become the KH, and when he drinks the water he does become it. The sauce gives prescient visions, and with KH memory, Paul is able to see the future clearly.
Prescience in Dune is more like being able to calculate every possibility and see the result. With enough brain power and background knowledge, you can play out different futures kind of like Dr Strange and pick the path you want.
The prophecy of Lisan al Gaib is fake. It is a story the Bene Feserit planted hundreds of years ago, and Paul and Jessica take advantage of it. It allows Paul to gain control of the Empire. But the fanaticism around the religion releases a Jihad. Paul knows this because he can see the future. It's why he is reluctant to do it, but he must because the Jihad is still better than alternatives he can see.
*edit Try the Audiobooks - much better than reading it for me :)
And as for prescience in Dune with your take is also based on half truths, because both Paul and Doctor Strange are not able to CHOSE the futures they want. They can predict them, but those futures stay spontanious, they come with either luck or no luck. Only Paul's son Leto 2nd could 100% create future he wanted with abolishing other ''possibilities''.
As for audio books, they are still the same books, but you just don't need to use your eye and you can rest it by listening instead of reading. But book remains the same. And Galactic Jihad was necessary evil for the Golden Path that Paul was embracing. Killing billions to save TRILLIONS. To save humanity from extinction and mostly from house IX and Bene Tleilaxu.
Also not all Bene Geserit are ''reverend mothers'', students just like Jessica was in part 1 were simply being called Lady. Reverend mother is only 1 among Bene Geserit or any other rebelled Bene Geserit clans such as Fremen. Lady Gessica was formally rebelled Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother. In order to become a reverend mother, you must perform the ritual as she did and successfully became one. Prior to that, she was just simply being Lady Jessica. Not Reverend mother.
The so called ''blue water'' if you are book reader, you would just type in the comments Worm's Bile, but you didn't. Also your statement is factually incorrect, especially if you had read the books.
Bene Geserit's prophecy about Lisan al Gaib was not fake, they even dedicated to control and manipulate bloodlines in the entire universes and all of the houses of the Lansrad.
There are so many lies or some truths with pretty much half-thruths in your comment that if I start to correct, my comment will very likely disappear from youtube if I don't chose my words carefully.
The so called ''blue water'' if you are book reader, you would just type in the comments Worm's Bile, but you didn't. Also your statement is factually incorrect, especially if you had read the books.
Bene Geserit's prophecy about Lisan al Gaib was not fake, Bene Geserit even dedicated and placed so much time and effort to control and manipulate bloodlines in the entire universes and all of the houses of the Lansrad.
But the so called ''blue water'' if you are book reader, you would just type in the comments Worm's Bile, but you didn't. Also the statement you made is completely incorrect, especially if you had in fact read the books.
Bene Geserit's prophecy about Lisan al Gaib was not fake, Bene Geserit even dedicated and placed so much time and effort to control and manipulate bloodlines in the entire universes and all of the houses of the Lansrad.
If you are book reader, you would just type in the comments Worm's Bile, but you didn't. Also the statement you made is completely incorrect, especially if you had in fact read the books.
Bene Geserit's prophecy about Lisan al Gaib was not fake, Bene Geserit even dedicated and placed so much time and effort to control and manipulate bloodlines in the entire universes and all of the houses of the Lansrad.
It turned out to be an interesting clip
Third part will be 12 years ahead, with 65 billion dead, and Paul as emperor.
Why is the beginning of the movie cut out !!
First time I read Dune I understood what the author was trying to say about how easy people want to follow charismatic leaders. Many black people and some white people whose reaction videos I've watched understood Paul is from Royalty. He is from wealth and is part of the empire. He is the outsider, the charismatic leader. He is a colonizer. They understood how organized religion has been used to control people of color. Chani wass the real moral compass of the movie. She stayed true to her people and believed their leader should be one of their own. Frank Herbert, the author, wanted Paul to be a likable character. That is what the director wanted us to see. But he also want us to figure out for ourselves that Paul is not a hero. The story is a warning..
but as the line in the movie says: I believe because I choose to believe. Many people want to be lead, even if it's by an outsider. The movie is nothing like star wars or Anakin. Which is why critics have called Dune science fiction for adults. Some people get it while some want a good vs evil story. Dune make you think and ask questions. With Star Wars, everything is spelled out for you.
In reality this is good vs evil story. I agree that it's not comparable with star wars, but without Paul humanity would be extinct. Chani was middle finger in the movie to original books, so was Jessica. He is also not colonizer, since he transformed Fremen into imperial army and provided them his home planet infinite water resources. People who are using Frank Herbert's ''charismatic'' quotes are actual people that have no common sense. Since Frank due to that decided to create new books for the sake of protest against people who worshipped Paul, because his message was very poorly spread and now in 2024, his message is most irrelevant of all. His son Brian in the other hand is even bigger hypocrite than his father.
Great vid as always ; very interesting to watch someone that haven't read the books trying to link it all together. Chani was so much different in the books but for once, thats a change that makes sense when translating this story to movie and into these current times. The "dont blindly follow charismatc leaders" needed to be said out loud cause the Dune story has already been too much misunderstood...
The power of the Bene Geserit is unmatched. They even purposely use their tricks as little as they can, cause they need the trust of everyone, they need to be accepted everywhere all the time to be able to bend humanity's destiny to their grand design. For that, being feared is good, but inspiring terror would be counter productive.
The movie oversimplifies a lot of aspects and just erases other very important factions but Villeneuve's choices really make sense and his version of Dune becomes a art piece that can stand on its own, and a worthy one.
Im so glad i got to see it in theaters : D When it'll come back in fashion 50 years from now i will tell my grandkids i was there lol
It's not outmatched. Paul outmatched them, yeah you definitely did not read the books.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller you think so? How interesting :)
We should actually think of Paul
more as Anakin. Maybe not so much in the black and white villain sense, but we should be critical of his actions and not completely buy into the hero narrative.
I think the idea is that we should be justifiably afraid of what a figure like Paul can do (is doing/will do....). His actions on the surface may seem like a noble revenge story against an evil oppressive enemy, but as an audience (and brilliantly spotlighted by Chani through the movie) we should see what he's doing for what it is, USING the fremen and the manufactured prophecy as a means to his own selfish ends. Though we can't help but sympathise with him in some way even by the end with all that's happened, as we've been with him for 2 movies. It's like watching someone you care about fall down a dark path that they yet think is right, with no way to stop them.
(Remember in Dune 1, as Chani says "who will our next opressors be?" and it almost immediately cutting to the sleeping Paul. It's symbolic of what eventually comes to pass, the fremen is his fanatical attack dog now, and they are all but blind to it from religious zeal.)
@@Musabre That idea is incorrect. It was only so called ''correct'' when Narcissist Frank Herbert mentioned it, then he decided for the sake of protest make another new books just for the sake of ''change audience's opinions'', since he was charismatic ''douche'' that wanted to be center of morality. Fact is that his story about Paul and his Son Leto 2nd contradict his statements. Paul was actually a hero, his son despite his father's dispute Leto 2nd was also hero, even biggest. Despite being tyrannical dictator, he maintained prosperous peace in the galacy. Chani in the movie was middle finger to the entire Dune and just projecting to the audience to both books and agenda of liberalism. From even part 1 changing gender and race swap to her father (mother in the movie) Liet Kynes, Chani's separation is downfall of the future of Part 3 and part 3 will be anything, but Dune. Denis already is digging himself and dune movie fans more with him. People who justify this movie and those changes are both equally blind and equally pathetic. Main key to golden path is to ensure stability of Humanity, something that Paul had to do to accomplish, despite vile and cruel ways. Chani in the books was loyal to him till the very end just like any normal comon sense (not woman) but human being should be.
@@SenatePalpatinetroller It's okay to be wrong, but i don't care much for the bizarre opinions of someone with a weird axe to grind with Frank Herbert. If you don't like him and his works, that's your call, but don't bring it up with me like it's some sort of valid argument.
You need to take a breath, sit back, and realise that an adaptation is just that, an adaptation. It won't and should not, be a one for one copy of a novel in screen form. THat would be boring (and doesnt work, Lynch tried and failed).
Your childish complaints about gender swapping characters and the like just mark you as unserious even further.
to quote you: "It was only so called ''correct'' when Narcissist Frank Herbert mentioned it, then he decided for the sake of protest"
This proves you really dont understand Dune or the intentions of its author. Dune doesn't belong to you, it was Herberts. HIs goals with the work trump whatever fanfic version you have in your head. And DV's adaptation is additionally immune to whatever personal version of Dune you prefer to believe in.
And Sharon Duncan-Brewster nailed it as Liet Kynes in Dune, you're a silly person to take issue with that.
Hello I've just found you your great and I've just looked at what you've watched and you haven't watched shawshanck redemption yet and it's a brilliant film it's a bit like the green mile!
Bro you totally seemed to have missed/ didn’t include in this video the moment when the Harkonnens were running towards the mountain and started floating. It was such a surprise out of the blue and shot so well😢
A number of rectors keep pronouncing it "Ferman" instead of "Fremen". It's like "Free-men" but with one less "e".
finaly.
So epic
Yes indeed