The Life and Death of Nikki Kuhnhausen | Full Episode
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ย. 2023
- A young woman disappears after a Snapchat rendezvous. Her murder inspired a new law. "48 Hours" contributor Jamie Yuccas reports. Watch more full episodes of "48 Hours" on Pluto TV.
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I think that it would be best before getting intimate with someone to let them know if you are trans, NOT for fear or danger of reprisal, but because there's less chance of hurt feelings on either side. It's NOT an excuse to harm someone, but it makes sense to discuss it before getting sexual.
I totally agree.
It is called respect.
Exactly 💯 I said also
No u tell them cause they will be mad period
@@emilymclaare stu%$# no u tell them cause there a guy with or no surgery
16 addicted to meth,suspended from school,took 6 bullets on a drug buy situation,violent and out at all times of the night?maybe she needed a parent not a friend .
Agreed!
Yep where is or was dad ?
I agreed, parents these days try to be their kids friends instead of parents.
You mean he*
Could he have given anymore cries for help! But claiming he was so brave just reinforces his pain.
It sounds like Nikkis mom was her biggest problem. Mom was too busy trying to be a cool friend, than being a mom. So sad
Yep! Exactly right.
I don't care what you call yourselves just be straight with ppl before you hook up with them
I see plenty of these kind of tragic endings, and usually the accused found out way too late in the relationship, or meeting that the person they were talking to was actually not a woman. Just say when the flirting begins that you are trans, because if you are proud of who you are (as you should be, like we all should trans, straight, in between etc), then you should have no problem saying it when someone is flirting with you.
I think he’s dead because he wasn’t upfront from the get go.
@@realreviews4017 Educate yourself. As a hetero Cis Person, we are very privileged but there is a Reason for Queer People not to come forward as if they talk about their fav Color etc.Blaming Victims never helped anybody...
@@opiumeyes2858 wtf is a hetero CIS. That mean your from a different solar system?
@@opiumeyes2858 Stop using meaningless words.
Why is everyone ignoring the giant elephant in the room? Why is your child out meeting strange men at 3 o' clock in the morning? That is the biggest thing that needs to be addressed here!
No kidding. What kind of mom is this?
Totally i agree with you. It’s the political agenda is why. There was 32 murdered last year. I mean one person is sad i get that, but the agenda is unbelievable. They call it genocide!! Better vote Democrat to stop the genocide. Unbelievable.
Agreed.
My parents were so strict with me and my sister we had to be home by 9 and that was a long time from having to be home at 7pm and we were only allowed to go to certain places. Sadly I still veered in a terrible direction but I've been sober now for 32 years. I got caught early but think about people who keep using for years and never make it. 😞 You're right though, in this day and age, no one should be out that late, it almost never ends well.
Nikki fighting this man, how does it define logic? Nikki is biologically a man so she has the strength to do so, but dumping the body after killing her just doesn't sit well with me 🤷🏾♀️
Mom at the end says "she was just a baby she was just a teenager" well "mom" why did you let her party, skip school, and not intervene when she was on meth?
Yup. Terrible mother that should not have children
I agree...seriously....I was a single mom with several kids and two jobs..........I worked my tail off but I would never have allowed my kids to do that...EVER
👏👏👏👏👏👏 Totally agree with you!
@@classique4654easy to just say that but until you deal with that in your own life keep your opinion to yourself
If her child had made different choices, she would still be here. Unfortunately she made wrong decisions and fell into the hands of the wrong man. It's sad. She didn't deserve a hate crime though.
When mom says "Nikki led the way, I just followed," that basically sums up the entire video.
mom sounds like she stole something from the stash as well. nikki taking uppers mommy taking downers. talk about a failed guardian
Pretty much. I was thinking the exact thing same thing.
in which way?
Exactly. Mom should have led the way for her child, not vice versa.
🎯 17-years kid att night with a stranger? 🤦🏻♀️😖🤯
Seems like the mom wanted to be more of a 'yass queen' bestie than a mom to her kid, you can tell how how delusional she is about Nikki's behavior, the behavior she facilitated.
Exactly. Nicholas needed guidance not friendship. Good parents nowadays are hard to find.
Your children need your guidance NOT your friendship!! RIP Nikki.
Amen to that
Correct. Parents cannot be best friends with their children ! It is unhealthy!
And what has that got to do with this? How do you know she wasn't getting guidance?
Exactly why Parents raised in a Single Parent home or a Broken Family Unit, should seek advice of Successful (Relativity) Parents the same ways First Time Parents do (New Borns). Using "The Force" sci-fi results, in a "Horror" Sci-fi outcome.
@@sharimeline3077 Because her mother clearly said " Nikki led the way around here". I'm not shaming or accusing anyone but she said "Nikki was my Best Friend"...not a healthy relationship. I'm sad for her family, especially her Mom. No one deserves this ending, we all (hopefully) learn from our mistakes. This lesson is definitely HARDER than any other!!
The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them. Some defense.🙄We’re commanded to LOVE. GOD judges our sins.
he talks about nikki but was having pre marital sex..sad sorry
yes- i got stuck on this as well. "The killer was quick to point out Nikki’s lifestyle was a biblical sin yet glossed over his lifestyle of picking up whom he thought was a vulnerable girl for casual sex, giving them alcohol and drugs, and murdering them". horribly sad & digusting.
He didn't give her drugs. She was already a meth addict
Seems to be common amongst religious people. Always quick to judge others, while forgetting their en "sins" shortcomings.
Yes. Even if Nikki was biologically a woman she was still an underage and vulnerable child. I wonder what other kids he’s picked up, drugged and assaulted before this case.
Being true to self is being exactly who you were born as, not playing pretend and dress up.
She cared about her daughter so much but yet had no problem with her running the streets, doing drugs and had already been shot six times and still allowed her to run the street afterwards, great mother!!!! Maybe she needs to take a little bit of accountability and responsibility!!
Parents can't control everything their kids do just like they couldn't control the mistakes you've made.
I’m sure she did have a problem with her running the streets.
@joseluvs69 A 16 year old addicted to meth that can't do homework without drugs? Get outta here. That's not normal or normal parenting.
Oh yeah bio girls domt do that i forgot durpsurp
SON. Never a daughter.
At that young age out at all hours of the night, doing such hard drugs, lying to people, getting shot at?? This is the real problem. She mightve been a wonderful person but clearly with very deep problems and issues. Anyone living such a dangerous life that young has a high chance of not getting a good outcome.
Big facts
Yep. But when we say "use common sense" & "make better decisions" I guarantee some dumbas* will come along and say "stop victim blaming!"
Our society doesn't understand agency & personal responsibility anymore. Anything goes, apparently.
That's what happens when as child is never told NO.
This is the whole truth people will deviate me from.
The earlier people accepted to take full accountability and responsibility for their actions, the better the society becomes.
Would you say that about Long Island Serial killer's victims? And Robert Hansent, and many others. I mean, they were mostly escorts.
How dare the rest of the world not be perfect?
Nikki had issues. So do most people. Based on how judgemental your comment sounds, so do you. Should someone holier than thou disregard your death if someone kills you? Because you're not perfect.
A huge part of Nikki's story is being a meth addict. Wonder why no one is focused on helping addicts
Cause it more trendy to focus on him being "trans".
meth heads are loons,unpredictable...there's every chance the kid went for that gun
@@jnbr7520 Yeah, went for the gun because she was about to get strangled to death. My god, does everyone here side with the murderer?
I would say switching genders didn't make that person happy as they thought it would so they started using meth.
@sharimeline3077 you do realise that biological women get murdered all the time due to living life dangerously but for some reason the trans community took ALL of the blame away from Nikki despite her making bad decisions repeatedly and sleeping with complete strangers for drug money. Trust me if this was just an average biological woman she would 100% receive scrutiny for her behaviour and actions.
Never ever pick up strangers or get into a strangers vehicle.
Don't drink and drive.
Don't do drugs.
Don't lie, deceive others for personal gain.
These are the real lessons here.
Yes! Absolutely. Good character, self preservation, and self accountability are so important!
I love how the MRAs are blaming the victim. This is always what I see when women are the vic and men are the perps.
We're suppose to do better, not the men (a.k.a., the perps).
24:31 Well that’s a beautiful sentiment. But. It’s such a shame that Lisa’s drive “to do right by her child” didn’t kick in earlier, ie while her child was alive and spiraling. *My comment is NOT based on the matter of transgender status.. we can remove that factor from my point entirely.* Because her child, trans or not, was clearly struggling and on a very destructive path as a school suspended, violent fighting, shot 6 times, teenage METH addict for goodness sakes. Red flags were a-flying and gave Lisa multiple opportunities to “do right by her child”.
This is beyond tragic.
You don't have to qualify your stance. Nothing you said was wrong. She was a terrible parent to a troubled, drug addict, violent kid. Period.
16 year old addicted to meth? Poor kid, never stood a chance.
Meth usually has a weird effect on people especially men. My mom is a p.o she said it effects men and women but especially men sexually in a weird way and they do weird sex stuff
@@kathenry1337when they correctly shot it up, which is a big amount it can heighten sexual obsession in male and female if they are sexually active, if they are not sexually active it can just make them super hyperactive, but chances of them shooting up are already sexually active already as for snorting it up their nose or smoking it or what is a combination of the two called hot rail, ingesting, and also something called turkey bastings which i dont know if that is real but could be and I'm not going to explain that, so don't ask, which ever way it's done, it has a different effect, but effect male and female the same way, the more that's taking, the more it makes the person erratic.
@@kathenry1337she's right.
Jip. Trust American broadcasting to make it a gender issue
And a liar to boot.
"I was just trying to be a nice guy" - immediate red flag.
Yup. When a 25yo masc approaches an attractive teen femme who's alone at night, it's not because they're a nice guy. He wanted something from her. Pretty sure he wouldn't have gone up to an old, heavyset man walking alone at night to see if he needed help... ya know?
"I am a man pretending to be a woman" red flag! 🚩🚩
I am a dude pretending to be a girl. Bigger flag
Yep. Just a nice guy offering girls vodka from his van 🙄
@@MusaAexactly
Bad parenting no minor should be allowed do such things theres a reason children need parents not friends
Aww, you didn't get any hugs as a child? So sad for you.
And both parents most importantly.
@MichaelGomez-hh2xp
Right! If we didn't need parents the good Lord would have let us come to this world without them.
This story is so sad, this baby was lost before she was lost. She had loving people, yet no guidance.
No she did not. To love means to seek the best, even at a cost.
HE.
She was 17 meeting strangers from the internet in person in the middle of the night? Maybe I missed something but why wasn't she at home?
Nikki didn't live with the parents
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What part of meth addict, violent, and dealing w drug users did u miss?
Doesn't matter. She should not have been killed. Stop victim blaming.
@griceltorres7701 talking about the parents genius
@@griceltorres7701 there is a reason why certain behaviors are deemed risky... cause they come with dangerous risks. Accusing people of "Victim blaming" isn't helping other teens Do you want other 17 yrs olds to end up the same way.. they need to learn that certain events can be prevented.
Kinda weird how they glorying her gettin shot over a bad drug deal. Most of this story is because bad parenting but RIP to the person gone
Exactly
Who "glorified her getting shot six times" plz ?? 🤔
TYIA 💜✌️
Ikr😮
@@kathysmotherman2515 her friends and the interviewer, they only talked about how tough she was and that wouldn’t stop her, also showed pics of every smiling and posing in the hospital
100%
Can’t watch this. Shame on her mom. Very tragic story what happened to this young man !
Lack of proper parenting here.
This young woman roaming the streets in the middle of the night?
Whrre was her parents.
Not a woman.
Its not a woman.
Many men will react very negatively towards what he did. You should be aware of that, no matter which nonsense they push.
Her "mother" is NOT a mother... sorry. Sounds like NO PARENTING GOING ON THERE! She even said herself she was the follower...
HIS mother. He was male.
And apparently from NICHOLAS's childhood, momma just gave in and enabled confused behavior instead of being a mother and guiding HIM.
Nikki had an addiction to meth, had been suspended from school numerous times for fighting and being violent. Nikki’s mother should have been more concerned with what she was up to and tried harder to keep her out of trouble. I feel if Nikki had been upfront about being trans, she may still be alive today. Also if she was on drugs and a violent person, it’s hard to really discern what actually happened. I’m not saying murdering someone is okay, especially just because of how they identify. But if someone was high on meth and attacking you, that IS self defense.
He was clearly mentally disturbed. But his enabler mother wanted to be woke, rather than loving and concerned. This whole affair is outright child abuse, as is the case with all the transgender cult being pushed on children.
Victim blaming is no solution.
The point is that the young man was a victim of a LOT of people, not just the man who murdered him. He was also a victim of his screwy mother and his thoughtless "friends."@@scientistatwork4667
@@scientistatwork4667the comment doesn't seem like victim blaming to me it seems like victim education
Amen 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Well, Nikki’s mom was proud of Nikki’s courage. I’m fact, she should have been more worried about her recklessness and destruction. Obviously, Nikki was playing with fire, and flirting with death. Her life was on edge. She just dragged someone down with her. Sad, sad.
Nikki’s fantasy is not a dream. It’s delusion.
Yes well said
HIS recklessness, HIS life, HE just dragged someone down with HIM
Who has been dragged down with her? Her murderer?
Well said.
She was seventeen. No matter how you twist or turn it and whether she did or didn't make the right choices, she was a teenager. She did not deserve to die
exactly, i hate how people in the comments are criticizing her like she was an adult. she did not deserve this period.
HE
Facts
exactly. So many things were wrong but at the end of the day she was a minor and did not deserve to be murdered. The comments disgust me.
how do people mix up deserved to die and was living a risky lifestyle that would increase your odds of dying? I haven't seen one comment say she deserved to die, quit twisting people's words like you don't have the ability to understand
The mom should be charged with child neglect, endangerment, and all around abuse
A 17 year old is basically an adult. The mom was a bad mom, but legally, I disagree with you. Teenagers are responsible for their own choices.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq can a teenager legally buy cigarettes?
Can a teenager legally purchase beer?
Can a teenager legally obtain insurance on a vehicle without an adult?
Can a 17 year old go to the military without having an adult sign for them?
We know that the cognitive development of humans doesn’t fully develop until around 25.
Nicholas is a boy and his “mom” allowed this psychological disorder to develop into this vile behavior.
Nicholas was a boy, not a girl and it should have been addressed in the home by the parents period.
@@RaquelSantos-hj1mq legally, the law disagrees with you. at least in the US, idk about Canada. no one is basically anything. they either are or they aren't.
@RaquelSantos-hj1mq teenagers are responsible for their own choices right??? So why are people in jail for statutory rape then? You sound remildial!
10000%
Why was she not living with her mom? She was only 16?
Why was he not living with his mom? He was only 16?....for those still not sure. You're welcome.
Annoying that people can't give a real answer instead of being smartasses about transgender people.
Exactly
@@thedeviouspanda Well it's simple really, his mother knew he was a boy but accepted him as a girl. The dynamics change when its an actual girl. His confidence is that of a young man and not of a 16 year old biological female who are generally more cautious and would not behave like him. His mother no doubt took many a verbal beating from him so she let him do whatever. Not her fault, she's only submitting to the alpha male.
No Nikki lived on her own at almost 18yrs old with a roommate
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Nobody deserves to be killed like that but boy this Nikki person was a lot of trouble😮
Don't hang out with meth addicts.
This is partly on Nikki's *mother* !!
Your teen was just shot 6 times months earlier. Why was Nikki roaming the streets? Nikki was obviously *very* vulnerable in more ways than one.
Where the hell was Nikki’s father? The deadbeat dad is magically excused from any responsibility for the child he created? Takes two to bring a human into this world!
@@user-wz6ck6qk8kclearly, he wasn’t around, but that doesn’t negate the fact that as mother, it’s now your full responsibility to care for your child. ESPECIALLY since the father wasn’t around.
@@user-wz6ck6qk8k - Thank you. We don't hear that enough. People would rather sit around and judge the parent that was there (even if not a perfect parent), and just excuse the one who rarely (if ever) had a meaningful part in their childs life.
Her mom said she followed niki she should of been a leader not her Follower..
The mom acts like a victim but i think she has a lot of the responsibility for this death
I doubt the initial shooting was over drugs...but hey, raging hormones and a belief that you're invincible can be a deadly combo. Meeting someone for casual sex is always going to be a dicey situation regardless of whether one person is transgender or not ...look at the Grace Millane case.
Was Niki hooking for drug money ?
@@mscarolynnigro That's always a possibility but still may not have been the reason for the shooting(s).
So in your professional opinion, what was the shooting a result of?
A very damaged kid who was left to do what she /he wanted there was no discipline or rules so a child can roam around at 3am did anybody care ? totally out of control
Exactly, where WERE David’s parents?? None of this would have happened if only they had cared about him more. 😞
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@@maisydaisy9216he wasn't getting shot three times fighting with drug dealers
@@greensorrel6860 Obviously, duh. Poor kid. He was just out there driving around with vodka in his truck, picking up clearly “not from his neighborhood” type girls off the street at 3 am. Clearly his parents failed him.
In no way is it ok or justifys anyone being murdered. I think its important whether straight, bi, gay or transgender that people are open and honest prior to engaging in any type of intimate contact with anyone, in many times it will prevent disappointment from both parties and allow the other person to make a decision whether they want to pursue something with a man, women or transgender.
True but nikki was honest before it became intimate and this is what happened!!
@@zombiechicken7114So do you think that a trans person should not be honest about being trans then? And just it let be a surprise or something when they become intimate with someone? Is that what you think?
@@zombiechicken7114were u there
@@zombiechicken7114 are you serious 🥴. You don’t know, you weren’t there🙄.
@@zombiechicken7114come on bsffr, Nikki told him the night of their “date”. A lie is a lie is a LIE. A person should NEVER just surprise another about something as serious as their gender identity the night of meeting up. This is typically why trans murders occur. Research shows this. Time & time again. Be honest and up front from JUMP. Lying no matter what the situation never ends up well.
The mom is strange.
The mum is grieving
This is why fathers are needed in a family period!
Nope. This is why at least one safe parent is needed.
That the mother phrased it as "She led the way, I followed" says alot.
Also: single mothers mostly didn't chose that past from the get-go. Many were forced to leave in order to survive. So in the end, it often is to blame on the fathers. But not them missing, but them behaving abusive.
The mom’s delusion is very sad. Most teens going off track want help. Never be afraid of disciplining your child no matter their age or gender. No one wants to be a drug addict 😢
That's the problem with parents from the West. They are being confused that discipline is child abuse. Which is not. Discipline is good for children. It gives them boundaries.
@@joshsher6327physical punishment is not discipline. Discipline is expected boundaries and requirements. Smacking kids is abuse.
@@beastshawnee A growing number of parents think that any form of discipline including restricting access to phones, video games, etc. is a form of abuse. This child was a 16-year-old meth addict who got shot 6 times...like how does that even happen unless the mother was completely detached from her daughter's life. I commonly hear that some parents should not have children, but this is commonly aimed at physically abusive parents. However, this woman is a prime example of someone who did not beat her child but was so negligent in her duties as a mother that she actively made her child's life worse.
You can be both friend and parent, but did mother did not realize being a mother first was most important
@@beastshawnee Spanking is only abuse if it is done out of anger and taken too far. Kids have turned into holy terrors since parents stopped spanking, they are completly out of control!
Babies should be home with their parents not out and about at night roaming the streets.
Babies?
@@knavishlassie I apologize I meant young people on school nights? Roaming the streets not going to school? Is that not asking for trouble??? High risk behavior = Dangerous consequences
Using the word "babies" is so ridiculous.
Under no circumstances was he/she a baby
Yeah and her mom said, "She led the way, and I just followed". Um.. the parent is supposed to lead the way, and the child should follow.
When mom said she gets in trouble at school for hitting people because she’s helping the underdog sounds like she got away with abusing other human being
I thought that too. I wonder if she was hitting females, because that would not be a fair fight
Exactly definitely not a fair fight this is a mess anyway u look at it and that mother doesn't understand why it is a big problem in her eyes it was everyone else creating problems
@@KS-xd8zi Look at her body though, look at it. Does she look big and strong to you?
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@@sharimeline3077sit down child
Well don't do drugs kids and what a terrible mother this lady is. Smh
Where was Nikki's father in all of this?
Probably got divorce raeped and lost custody, because he didn't want his son to undergo such a procedure.
@@CBTheMechaniccan’t wait to read your novel 😂😂😂
Prison
I didn't like the way 48 hours paid short shrift to Nikki's high-risk and reckless lifestyle.
Agreed
100%
The punishment for drug addiction isn't supposed to be death.
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@@calspaceit usually is, though...
The suggestion that someone high on meth would go for a gun “defies logic?” Um, yeah, no it doesn’t. Have you ever encountered someone high on meth? Lol
Also that Nikki was somehow helpless?? Yeah right, physically she was still a man. Wayyy stronger than most women regardless of what Nikki claimed to be. PLUS, Nikki was high on METH!!! AND we ALL know about meth and what it does regarding physical strength. It sure as hell doesn't turn people into timid, little butterflies!!!
Correction, went for gun after bisexual David had sex with her and was trying to throttle her. Equally fits his story(s).
That's why you shouldn't lie to your kids
Be TRUTHFUL and everything will work out just fine for EVERYONE involved.
I find it crazy that Nikki was still able to go out at night after her mom finding out that she's been using drugs and got shot six times. This is such a tragic case that could've been prevented
Bad parents.
I guess you BOTH missed the fact that Nikki was not living with either of her parents, huh?
But, how about we just stop BLAMING victims? ANY of the victims. Victims include family and friends.
@@jrambo7495exactly, their mom was more of a friend than a parent. Let them do whatever they wanted so the mom could be the cool one on the block
She was 17 and living with friends. Regardless, what right does a parent have to keep their teen captive because they were struggling with substance use a year prior?
@@randibgood a teen and not living with their parents is CRAZY
Why was a teenager out late at night doing drugs? Bad parenting all the way around.
I agree.
@daniellejaskula7669 ...
I've been an addict since I was 17 been in recovery for almost 2yrs and just to let u know my dad tried everything he thought he could to help me and 20yrs later it was me who finally accepted that I wanted help ... so sorry but your comment is not entirely true
Sooo.....sending your addicted CHILD to MULTIPLE REHABS that didn't stick-is now "bad parenting"-along with trying everything to get Nikki back home ??? 🤔
You obviously know NOTHING about drug addiction-especially Meth & how extremely difficult it is to stop You can beg plead borrow physically trap the person & whatever else you can think of & until they're so sick & tired of being sick & tired-will they finally surrender
A CHILD IS DEAD FFS but I realize that showing RESPECT to that HORRIFIC fact is asking entirely too much 🤡 😓
@@WhatSheSayz77 Great comment & GOOD FOR YOU !!! Hold your head high 'coz you kicked the monster 💪
I wish you love & happiness on your journey of recovery 🤗
Blessed Be 💜✌️
Blessed Be 💜✌️
@@WhatSheSayz77her comment was true in Nikki mama case
That mother had such beautiful things to say about her daughter at the end. My sympathy goes to her.
They talk like she had a future. She was an addict and always would have been . This coming from an addict . The odds were against her
Parenting is not a part time job, if you're willing to have children then expect to dedicate yr entire life, the mother was at fault, seeing all these red flags and the parent never did anything is ridiculous
Yes!!!!
What do you mean she never did anything? You're just up here lying.
they just patted him on the back and said "wow your mental illness is wonderful huh?" "must be great to be used all the time" ugh I can not identify with these "baby mills".
@@trishhamilton2049
Mental illness? I don't think that murderer's parents were patting him on the back for being deranged? Mental illness is nothing to be praised. His parents should have raised him not to hate other people for just living their lives.
What "baby mills" are you talking about?
Sooo.... Nikki's mom that SENT NIKKI TO MULTIPLE REHABS that didn't stick-is "doing nothing" ?? 🤔
Btw-Nikki didn't live with the parents 🤡
Another fact is that this was still a 16 year old.. not really mentally in a place to make decisions with clarity of consequences that would follow, that’s where guidance comes in, especially with meth, I’ve heard it’s difficult for full adults to shake, can’t imagine 16 and living an adult lifestyle 🥹
I was once 14 and despite being a “good girl”, sometimes I lied to my parents that I’m staying at my friend’s place and instead was hanging out with a group of guys that were doing drugs and drinking. I was madly in love with one of them… now I’m 33 and I’m thankful that poor decisions didn’t ruin my life, but there’s no chance I’d understand anything back then. Just remember that you’ve also been a child one day and probably did stupid things..
@@anashali1509being 17 and changing your body would ruin a lot of future decisions as many transgenders have regretted their decision.
@@suchlovelyradiance6032 well it’s their choice after all. As that shouldn’t explain or justify them being killed
Can't you see it's very lower class. The mother was clearly troubled herself.
Still too young to decide to be a girl. So many teens regret their choice to "change gender". But those promoting trans ideology aren't honest with the world about that.
RIP Matthew Shepard. For everyone saying oh she should have just told him. She DID. It got her murdered. The culture of just accepting that males get to be violent because their sexuality is threatened is grotesque. How many females would react that way given the same situation? Not many. He was groomed to accept that violence is ok…because he’s male.
How hard for people to know we don’t have rights to take another person’s life.
a drug addict , they talking about a brilliant future 😮
Right?
I know, right? The percentage of people successfully kicking a meth addiction is extremely small and that was just one of the many problems, the other being confused about gender, being violent etc.
Such a terrible mother
A lot of heartlessness and ignorance in some of these comments. Nikki's a victim. Nothing else matters. Where the hell are people's empathy? Hate crimes are particularly horrendous, and this story left me in tears. Her mother gave Nikki complete unconditional love. That's the most amazing gift a mother can give. Shame on some of you.
💯% agree.
Nikki is a victim, of both her killer and her Mother. You can have empathy for someone without ignoring the facts. Your ignorance is astounding!
@@lorikoenig6111 🙄
I think that it would be best before getting intimate with someone to let them know if you are trans,
Ok, but how men don't notice themselves that someone is trans?
That's literally what happened. Also the murderer was 25, victim was 17. Probably should consider the murderer was the problem here.
@@iamthebumYES! Finally someone mentions this! I feel crazy. Like…. is 25 hooking up with a 17 yr old not gross? Did i miss something?…
@@iamthebumNeither were innocent, but only one murdered the other. How was he supposed to know her age? 25 and 17 is not that weird especially if it's physical. Any 17 who is tall and can pass for older can go out and hook up with men in their twenties. It's not like a magic wand is waved the moment someone turns 18.
Both were messed up people and and Nikki was living an extremely dangerous lifestyle. It's unfortunate and sad.
@@BeaneabeanI just looked at the pictures and Nikki looked 25.
How can a person do such a thing to another human being and still close their eyes at night. So heartbreaking. Meeting people on social media is very dangerous, and 99% of people lie about what they look like or who they are. You cant start a relationship on a lie.
The main message from this is don't do meth!!
Who wants to date a girl and then find out in the act that she's actually a boy?
Honesty up front would have kept Nikki from being in that situation. Unfortunately, people living dangerous lifestyles are more likely to die.
Very true, she was continually putting herself in high risk situations, eventually you're going to run out of luck. If only she'd been honest to the guy from the very start, she'd still be alive.
Yes. HE was.
Way to blame the victim, as if the murderer had no accountability or control.
@@maryl.2787they were both reckless
@@shellwirtful He killed her...
I cannot believe so many posting here are blaming the victim and her family. And at least one person is insulting Nikki’s memory by refusing to use her pronouns.
Why does that offend you? Not everybody plays along with others make believe..
“This was a very humiliating thing to happen to me. I just wanted to put this behind me”…. While discussing the life he took. That speaks volumes to me. I think he knew she was transgender. Was into it then was full of guilt because of his upbringing and did something horrific to cover it up.
If you are a man pretending to be a woman you should let the guy know. Can’t trick a straight person into gay activity. That’s not right.
Thank you!!!
Agreed. Just as gays hav rites. Strate lives matter too.
Fully agree
💯 about time someone said something
@@marymc6494straight. Straight lives
That mother should be charged also!!!!
Suspended from school for violent behaviour and the mum thinks he was just a justice angel
I mean yeah. But we don’t know the context, maybe he hit a guy for bullying others?
It’s right to be suspended for physical behaviour tho, it shouldn’t happen even if they deserve it
You can't go around telling guys ur a girl when ur not and think everything will be ok. Thats dangerous
Honesty is really important. But, the guy could have walked away.
Hello friend, how are you doing?
Religious guilt
His van she wouldn't get out
I believe she got shot 6 times for the same reason she was murdered for😮 but told family and friends it was drug related 😢
The fake sniffling... Whatever possessed him to think that was believable?
He was on meth…. Yeah I believe he was acting crazy when he was rejected! Sad story for everyone involved
A 17-year-old minor doing meth and going out at 3 AM? She didn't deserve to die, but she brought trouble to herself. So did the Bogdan guy. What the hell was he doing at 3 AM on Wednesday (June 5th, 2019)? Are bars open at 3 AM in the State of Washington?
High risk 🙏🏾
Totally agree wuth you! Meth at 16 & going out 3 am is absurd!
This comment section is not it.
Regardless of her addiction, the parenting she received or didn’t, her revealing her identity that night DOESN’T give anyone the right to end her life solely because she was trans. Everyone saying, “well she should’ve told him before.” “This is why you tell people before.” Of course she should have done that, but she didn’t and she’s gone; even if she did it doesn’t mean this still couldn’t have happened. Plenty of people pick up LGBTQIA+ folks, knowing damn well their identity or orientation, and choose to inflict pain on them because of who they are. Let’s try to be kinder to people who can no longer speak. RIP Nikki.
many of my trans friends struggle with accepting themselves and want others to accept them for whom they are. They are uncomfortable with discussing their gender and wishfully hope that the man or woman they meet will love them regardless of the truth. It's often a sad outcome.
Usually relationships, regardless of “identity”, end up sad.
It’s not a mutually trans thing. When that’s accepted…
I understand. However, lying to someone because of your own trauma or issues is just wrong. If you're old enough to have sex, you're old enough to have adult conversations.
truth hurts. being honest is o important. dont lie about being trans. you are who you are. dont lie.
how are we supposed to accept them when they can't even accept themselves?
@@shonawilliams26my thought too.
Nikki wasn't "empowered and stadfast in her identity" - she was a mess. RIP
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Yeah if she was so empowered, it should have been easy for her to disclose she was really a freaking dude.
It is not safe to get into cars with strangers. People need to remember this as it could save your life. My mom taught me that when I was toddler age. 🥴
😢she was so exceptionally beautiful and a young soul just starting out in life. No one deserves to be killed and discarded as garbage. The evil was that monster
He was young and just starting out in life.
The judge should have advised trans individuals that it is right and proper to make clear they are trans before engaging in any form of romantic or sexual activity.
Violence is WRONG! However as adults we MUST make better decisions. This tragedy could have been prevented.
Although I agree with your comment, please keep in mind that this was a child that had just turned 17. She needed guidance, that probably would've come much later, but now it's too late!
@@kgotabody13 If he gotten the proper guidance from his doctors, teachers, parents (DAD INCLUDED) , and friends this would not have happened. THEY all lied to him.
Stop it, she was wasn't an adult.
@@aruglaempire2518 Found the hater. Go to therapy.
@@AnnaSusannaFinkelstein-bd7ul It isn't dress up. Get help for your obvious hate.
Its really not ok to hide your true gender in romantic situations, and there should be law made about that too!
Agree
I agree
Just like HIV disclosure
Nikki disclosed it. Also, why is no one mentioning how a grown 25 yr old man tried to hook up with a 17 yr old? I feel like im crazy right now seeing how no one is mentioning it
They just met. She did disclose anyway. And people need to be open to the fact that people may have different gender identities and not just make assumptions.
You dont have to agree with the lifestyle in order to feel empathy for a mother losing her child. ❤
Stop referring to gays and lesbians as part of the trans community. Being attracted to the same sex has nothing to do with people who are confused with their gender/sex.
Well, they are lumped in with the alphabet people. That’s what the liberals tell us.
A word!!!!!!💯💯💯
You got 'em now. They are part of your flag and acronym.
Oh wow I’ve never seen a conservative gay before in the wild… 🤢
Calm down sam
No matter which side of the social/moral issue involved here you live, no person DESERVES to be assaulted or killed. Period. My heart breaks for all the families who end up dealing with the outcome of someone else's choices. Yes, it sounds like Nikki was on a self-destructive path but she didn't deserve a death sentence because of those choices. I'm glad she was her own beautiful self for as long as possible. My prayers are with mama now.
Of course they don't deserve that. But it's going to happen if you don't disclose that you are trans.
@@phantagirlable you don't go looking for sex on the streets..if they both hadn't been up to such evil...well...
@@phantagirlable
Really now! You're part of the problem.
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@@QueenofNonSequiturno. Lying to people theyre intimate with is the problem. It can drive people temporarily insane.
Respect to all transpeople and their decision to live their life the way they want and need.
There is no justification for the crime. But, being deceitful to others by not revealing their own identity is unacceptable as well.
Sure, be who you are but but be honest and open about it.
Deceitful
Based on the comments, I believe many will agree. I can Starr by saying in no way, did the victim deserve to be killed.
With that said, multiple people, including the victim, could and should have made better decisions with simple common sense and better judgment. If transgenders or anyone else for that matter wishes to be respected and treated with care, then they should also respect and treat others with the same respect and care. By doing so, that would include being up front about sexual gender.
Just my thoughts!
Agree 100%
Moral of the story, don't drink alcohol, don't pick up strangers, don't hurt people.
He was never disgusted by Nikki. He was disgusted with himself.
what
If you’re going to claim self defense, maybe not leave the country for months, or claim self defense as a second option.
Just to be clear, when alot of people go missing, they are usually found deceased. Not going along with the narrative that it just happens to trans. It's terrible when anyone loses their life. No matter who or what they are.
100%
They never said it just happened to trans people? They said it happens at a higher rate, like 4x or something.
It is the prize you pay entering a woman’s life. Sadly for transgender it is even worse 😢
@@iamthebum in the very beginning they stated it happens to trans. I commented immediately after that statement. Didn't watch the rest at that time. Just was going against this narrative that trans are singled out. It is bs.
Exactly!
When your on the road to Nowhere often times it’s impossible to get Off..
the fact that even when on the stand fighting for his freedom, he still just *HAD* to voluntarily make it known that he thought she was a “disgusting piece of crap” shows exactly how hateful he is
With no intention to hurt anyone’s feelings but I strongly believe that Nikki told that guy she was transgender from the beginning she will still be alive. But chosing to disclose that information at the time of intimacy is what got her killed.
This could very well be true but that type of truth is considered hate speech
@@fiat2496What???? So a man pretending to be a woman trying to get laid by a straight guy and deceiving that straight guy until he finds out right there and then when he feels a penis in the “woman” pants is not considered wrong or hate speech? Smh god the world is so messed up
Makes sense.🙏🏾
@@fiat2496pop😊
There’s a lesson here. Only people with common sense will know what that lesson is.
Drugs are bad.
It's a very real possibility that some men will get violent if their masculinity is threatened.
@@futuremelinathere is only two gender
@@javierbarrera9805 speak English
There are several lessons.
Basically: “I was protecting myself so I dumped her body like it was an old couch…”
In regards to a potentially romantic relationship, it is imperative for the trans person to be honest from the beginning. It’s for the safety of the trans person.
Totally 100% essential to let someone know you are trans - not everyone is okay with it, and might have been expecting something else. That's just life.
facts
I’d say that 95% of people aren’t okay with it.