I just bought a new Rogue & it’s by far the best mower I’ve ever had the pleasure of mowing with. There may be better mowers out there, but for the price of these monsters, I’ll stay with Bad Boy.
I love the rear discharge option. Any idea if they're going to offer a fuel injected motor with this option in the future? I only use ethanol-free gas so I don't have carburetor issues but I'm always on board for ditching my carbs.
I bought a rogue 35 carbed Kawi eng with 54in deck. It’s a beast of a machine and rides really good. I have 3.7 hours on mine with no problems. Definitely worth the investment imo.
@@Boudreaux911 It is a great machine. I would recommend it to anyone. Only issue I have had is the deck belt stretched and needed to be replaced for which my dealer covered.
@@sociopathmercenary my comment wasn’t meant as a long time review just my opinion up to this point with this machine: now with 21 hrs i still feel the same way . Do you own this machine?
Honestly it’s your call. But the rogue is all around more heavy duty and has a lot of great features that give it a clean ride and buttery smooth cut. When it comes to bang for your buck. You’re getting more steel when you buy the rogue.
Maybe just a little more grass than with the side discharge. The way the underside of the mower is designed, most of the components are covered from the bottom. There are some rear vents cut out facing the opposite direction of where the grass comes out for the engine.
I’m having trouble deciding on the Maverick HD or the Rogue. I have a big yard and the 72” deck would be nice. Right now I have a Kubota ZD-28 diesel with a 72” deck but she’s old and the deck is getting ready to be junk, engine still runs great. Time for an upgrade but don’t know which one to get?
If you have 4.5+ acres get the rogue with a 72” cut. If you’re under that amount get the maverick HD if you want to save the money. Honestly though… we are having a sale on the Rebel x right now. It has a smooth ride great cut and comes in a 72” cut like the rogue. Plus we are giving $500 off the rebel x and a free spring trimmer and free lifetime powertrain warranty! Give us a call tomorrow if you’d like to order one for delivery or pickup (405)604-5454
First I hear of the rear discharge, which deck do you think would be better for cutting higher grass? Is the wind rowing terrible with the rear discharge?
The side discharge will be better for taller grass. Because of the nature of the airflow. The rear discharge is safer for cutting around other people or in neighborhoods. And the rear discharge are better for maneuverability. Hope this helps!
In my experience rear discharge is great for mowing extremely tall grass since it has a wider area for clippings to exit than side discharge but behind are the trimmings in a row like you could take a hay bailer after to make hay bails. With side discharge the clippings must pass from left to middle to right then exit taking more power. At least on hustler brand. I have. 2003 hustler super z with original Honda engine and hydros. Any of these mowers today will cut the grass and will last with proper maintenance.
I bought a 37 hp vanguard 61” cut Rogue on April 20th and I feel I bought a lemon. I’m waiting to see what will happen or how it will get fixed. It feels like it slips when it is hot while I’m turning especially if deck is engaged. I bought it on a Saturday and it was in the shop the next Friday April 26th. It was in the shop for 11 days. The bad boy rep hadn’t seen this before and they had a tech come out and bleed hydros after mechanic already did they put new drive belt on it and they messed with rpm’s which is still running same as my buddies that bought one from the same dealer the day mine went in the shop. I had my buddy bring his to my house today and he drove mine and I drove his. Still has an issue and he said it isn’t right either. My 2016 Scag Tiger Cat doesn’t drive like this so I’m pretty irritated over it after all the money I spent. Great machine besides my hydro issues feeling like they are slipping. I just let my dealer know today I’m not happy with it considering my buddies machine exact same model engine everything doesn’t have the issue. If Bad Boy doesn’t resolve the issue it’s going to aggravate me and make me wish I bought the Toro Zmaster 4000 with the MyRide I tried out last fall.
@@TractorBobsI appreciate your comment. It is going back to the dealer tomorrow for the second time. Hopefully they get it figured out. All the stuff they did last time didn’t work and I just want it to be right. If it’s not right next time I get it I might ring you all at Tractor Bob’s. Thanks again.
Sorry for not replying. Didn’t realize someone asked me a question. My dealer happened to be awesome and traded me the 37 hp vanguard for a 35 hp Kawasaki. Needless to say they say all of them do this from the way the hydros are. The vanguard did it more because it had more torque. To me it felt like something wrong with it because I’ve never been on a zero turn that did that until that vanguard and I’ve been on many brands of zero turns. Great zero turn if you can get past that feeling.
Scag and Grasshopper are the best. Especially their warranty and services. Which are a big deal to commercial mowers. Btw: compact tractors: buy a Massey Ferguson or a Yanmar instead of a Kubota or JD. Massey and Yanmar have better performance, warranty and services. JD is simply to expensive die to "American made", and Kubota performance is less than Yanmar. Only thing JD and Kubota have going for them: much dealers because USA customers can't read the performance sheets apples to apples. And are to sensitive for marketing. Instead of buying what Americans need, Americans buy what looks good to make neighbours jealous. Luckily I'm European and live in both Canada and The Netherlands.
Scag and grasshopper are way over priced and don't bring anything special to the table. Same engine options, same running gear, same clutch as badboy. Warranty maybe weaker for bad boy but that's honestly not as big of a deal as one may think. The two biggest differences between bad boy and the two you mentioned is the bad boy is a lot more steel for a lot less money.
Scag and Grasshopper are overpriced. Massey and Yanmar are good, but I don’t like the way their controls are set up. John Deere did lose their mind on parts prices.
Such a great looking Zero turn. I've just started mowing the grounds at the business where I work and am seriously considering a Rogue due to my JD Z330r feeling like it doesnt have the grunt to deal with it.
I’d highly recommend the Rogue or the Rebel X. We are currently running a sale on the Rebel X. So if you’re interested in that mower we offer delivery. Give us a call tomorrow if you’d like! 405-604-5454 Happy mowing!
@@TractorBobs Ive actually tried to find a compare tool so I can simply see the differences between the Rogue, Rebel X and Rebel but cant seem to find one. Im in Little Rock AR btw
I don't understand why people are so brand specific on zero turns. All you need to look at are frame/deck build, wheels, electronics, warranty support, and suspension (If applicable). The engines options, transmissions, and spindles are pretty much the same across the board. No shade on Scag, but I would consider these, Hustler, Ferris, Bobcat, Stihl, etc. I really like the heavy duty frames on these.
I just bought a new Rogue & it’s by far the best mower I’ve ever had the pleasure of mowing with. There may be better mowers out there, but for the price of these monsters, I’ll stay with Bad Boy.
Whats cutting height on rogue... Only info i can find is 2 inch
I love the rear discharge option. Any idea if they're going to offer a fuel injected motor with this option in the future?
I only use ethanol-free gas so I don't have carburetor issues but I'm always on board for ditching my carbs.
They do come with an EFI option. I looked at one today.
@@phwleeThey don't offer rear discharge with the EFI engines... Only the 1000 CC Kawasaki
@@sociopathmercenary They should offer it for all models.
I bought a rogue 35 carbed Kawi eng with 54in deck. It’s a beast of a machine and rides really good. I have 3.7 hours on mine with no problems. Definitely worth the investment imo.
Thanks for the comment! Happy mowing!
Rodney I’m thinking of getting a 54 inch Rouge in Spring. What is your thoughts on using it for a couple of months?
@@Boudreaux911 It is a great machine. I would recommend it to anyone. Only issue I have had is the deck belt stretched and needed to be replaced for which my dealer covered.
3.7 hours! Thanks for the long-term update lol
@@sociopathmercenary my comment wasn’t meant as a long time review just my opinion up to this point with this machine: now with 21 hrs i still feel the same way . Do you own this machine?
I have a 48 inch ZT ELite Bad Boy Mower! It is a few years old and still mowing strong! Best mower I ever had! Thank You Bad Boy!
I have a 2023 Elite 54”deck, Kawasaki engine……… It is a mowing monster………
Between this mower and the Hustler X-one which one would you choose, they are both comparable in price?
i have the X-one and it is the best mower I have ever had. This maybe my next one we'll see. Kawasaki
motor regardless.
I’d go with the rogue because of the patented suspension and deck isolators.
Honestly it’s your call. But the rogue is all around more heavy duty and has a lot of great features that give it a clean ride and buttery smooth cut. When it comes to bang for your buck. You’re getting more steel when you buy the rogue.
I currently have the x-one. Had it for almost 10 years. Been rock solid but the deck rusted out. So I am looking at the Rogue now.
This mower is on my short list of contenders:
Bad Boy
Country Clipper
Hustler
Spartan
Stihl
Yakta
Scag, eXmark, and Ferris can go stick it.
That's not a very short list
That rear discharge looks interesting. Wonder if the engine area gets more grass on it.
Maybe just a little more grass than with the side discharge. The way the underside of the mower is designed, most of the components are covered from the bottom. There are some rear vents cut out facing the opposite direction of where the grass comes out for the engine.
I’m having trouble deciding on the Maverick HD or the Rogue. I have a big yard and the 72” deck would be nice. Right now I have a Kubota ZD-28 diesel with a 72” deck but she’s old and the deck is getting ready to be junk, engine still runs great. Time for an upgrade but don’t know which one to get?
If you have 4.5+ acres get the rogue with a 72” cut. If you’re under that amount get the maverick HD if you want to save the money. Honestly though… we are having a sale on the Rebel x right now. It has a smooth ride great cut and comes in a 72” cut like the rogue. Plus we are giving $500 off the rebel x and a free spring trimmer and free lifetime powertrain warranty! Give us a call tomorrow if you’d like to order one for delivery or pickup (405)604-5454
Just buy a new deck from a Kubota dealer if things run good on the machine
@@aroundthegroundlandscaping7107 a new deck is about 6k and I just don’t think it’s worth it for a 20 year old machine.
@@TractorBobspretty nice deal your offering on the rebel x
First I hear of the rear discharge, which deck do you think would be better for cutting higher grass? Is the wind rowing terrible with the rear discharge?
The side discharge will be better for taller grass. Because of the nature of the airflow. The rear discharge is safer for cutting around other people or in neighborhoods. And the rear discharge are better for maneuverability. Hope this helps!
Wind Rowing ?
Wind rowing is when the discharged grass forms clumped lines behind the mower like “rows”
Similar to what a single spindle bush hog does
In my experience rear discharge is great for mowing extremely tall grass since it has a wider area for clippings to exit than side discharge but behind are the trimmings in a row like you could take a hay bailer after to make hay bails. With side discharge the clippings must pass from left to middle to right then exit taking more power. At least on hustler brand. I have. 2003 hustler super z with original Honda engine and hydros. Any of these mowers today will cut the grass and will last with proper maintenance.
I bought a 37 hp vanguard 61” cut Rogue on April 20th and I feel I bought a lemon. I’m waiting to see what will happen or how it will get fixed. It feels like it slips when it is hot while I’m turning especially if deck is engaged. I bought it on a Saturday and it was in the shop the next Friday April 26th. It was in the shop for 11 days. The bad boy rep hadn’t seen this before and they had a tech come out and bleed hydros after mechanic already did they put new drive belt on it and they messed with rpm’s which is still running same as my buddies that bought one from the same dealer the day mine went in the shop. I had my buddy bring his to my house today and he drove mine and I drove his. Still has an issue and he said it isn’t right either. My 2016 Scag Tiger Cat doesn’t drive like this so I’m pretty irritated over it after all the money I spent. Great machine besides my hydro issues feeling like they are slipping. I just let my dealer know today I’m not happy with it considering my buddies machine exact same model engine everything doesn’t have the issue. If Bad Boy doesn’t resolve the issue it’s going to aggravate me and make me wish I bought the Toro Zmaster 4000 with the MyRide I tried out last fall.
Give us a call at Tractor Bobs. One of our Techs might be able to diagnose the issue more quickly. I sure hope you can get this resolved! 405-604-5454
@@TractorBobsI appreciate your comment. It is going back to the dealer tomorrow for the second time. Hopefully they get it figured out. All the stuff they did last time didn’t work and I just want it to be right. If it’s not right next time I get it I might ring you all at Tractor Bob’s. Thanks again.
@@dillondavis7041you get it fixed?
@@dillondavis7041Did they ever figure out what was wrong and resolve the issue??
Sorry for not replying. Didn’t realize someone asked me a question. My dealer happened to be awesome and traded me the 37 hp vanguard for a 35 hp Kawasaki. Needless to say they say all of them do this from the way the hydros are. The vanguard did it more because it had more torque. To me it felt like something wrong with it because I’ve never been on a zero turn that did that until that vanguard and I’ve been on many brands of zero turns. Great zero turn if you can get past that feeling.
Scag and Grasshopper are the best. Especially their warranty and services. Which are a big deal to commercial mowers.
Btw: compact tractors: buy a Massey Ferguson or a Yanmar instead of a Kubota or JD. Massey and Yanmar have better performance, warranty and services. JD is simply to expensive die to "American made", and Kubota performance is less than Yanmar. Only thing JD and Kubota have going for them: much dealers because USA customers can't read the performance sheets apples to apples. And are to sensitive for marketing. Instead of buying what Americans need, Americans buy what looks good to make neighbours jealous.
Luckily I'm European and live in both Canada and The Netherlands.
Scag and grasshopper are way over priced and don't bring anything special to the table. Same engine options, same running gear, same clutch as badboy. Warranty maybe weaker for bad boy but that's honestly not as big of a deal as one may think. The two biggest differences between bad boy and the two you mentioned is the bad boy is a lot more steel for a lot less money.
Scag and Grasshopper are overpriced. Massey and Yanmar are good, but I don’t like the way their controls are set up. John Deere did lose their mind on parts prices.
Such a great looking Zero turn. I've just started mowing the grounds at the business where I work and am seriously considering a Rogue due to my JD Z330r feeling like it doesnt have the grunt to deal with it.
I’d highly recommend the Rogue or the Rebel X. We are currently running a sale on the Rebel X. So if you’re interested in that mower we offer delivery. Give us a call tomorrow if you’d like! 405-604-5454
Happy mowing!
@@TractorBobs Ive actually tried to find a compare tool so I can simply see the differences between the Rogue, Rebel X and Rebel but cant seem to find one.
Im in Little Rock AR btw
@@taipan185 We deliver to little rock are are over stocked on the Rebel X - Give us a call (405)604-5454
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@@TractorBobs I really do love the look of the Rogue but Im kind of going back and fourth between is and the Ferris ISX2200 atm.
Scag would eat it all day long
Scag eats nothing but $#!+
Haha just kidding. Scagg is cool and all but to pretend the rogue is worse… you’re just kidding yourself.
My Rogue beats the hell out of my buddies Scag
How so?
Because its orange
I don't understand why people are so brand specific on zero turns. All you need to look at are frame/deck build, wheels, electronics, warranty support, and suspension (If applicable). The engines options, transmissions, and spindles are pretty much the same across the board.
No shade on Scag, but I would consider these, Hustler, Ferris, Bobcat, Stihl, etc.
I really like the heavy duty frames on these.