I bought a 2023 Rogue. It is a strong mower made with heavy steel and is beautifully simplistic in design. Was designed by race car people and it shows. I didn’t have any loose bolts or any other defects at all. It is very loud though. It is like a tornado the way it mows. Has a 39HP EFI engine and is a 72” deck.
I can personally vouch for the Rogue - mine is 61" with Yamaha 33hp engine - does not sound like a mower engine - sounds like a hot rod - have owned now for over 1 1/2 years - residential use - very pleased so far. Run AMSOIL synthetic in everything for best oil on Earth protection of everything. AMSOIL has a special 10 30 small engine oil and 20 50 hydrostatic - also have synthetic grease for the grease gun. On a 1-10 scale, it is as close to 10 as possible. Even got the fancy aluminum Vector rims for rear which are truly nice versus standard steel, and go perfectly with styling of Rogue versus plain jane steel. Thumbs...way up !
Great review with really helpful info and tips. Also like your slow and deliberate presentation. Some reviewers just talk too fast. Great to hear Bad Boys customer support is top notch as well. That can be rare these days. Thanks for the review.
Glad you have more likes than dislikes. I just did my 8 hour maintenance on my 2021 Bad Boy Rebel. I have the same Kawasaki FX1000V motor as you do on mine. I love my Rebel.
Did you have to drill holes in the deck for the advanced chute system, or use the existing holes? Also do you think the reach would be too far for a 72" deck? Possibly add a curved extension to the handle to help with the reach?
I have to say it is good to hear that their customer service is good but I also feel like with the price tag on a mower at this level, they should have had better quality control and assurance. If I spend money on a mower, customer service is the last thing I’m checking off on my list. I want it ready to roll, no problems and can take a licking.
I am in several groups of different brand of mower and they all have some problems. I did a lot of reasearch before I bought one. all brands I researched the equal mower to the one I got where quite a bit more money.
That's for sure,when i gotta make special trips cause the dealer or manufacturer did a half Inspection i feel that the mower price is gouging me then!!!!!!!
Good job, I have the bad boy elite model 54” cut, Kawasaki engine, Noise has been a problem but I think my noise comes from the deck, as it does not make that much noise when the deck is not running, I added a hitch and a old man’s mount handle plus the adjustable handles asi am a big boy, So far it’s been a great mower, I added the poor boy Shute plug, you bolt it on would love to have one like yours, Take care, Wow, you need to work for bad boy research and improvement department
Do you have any issues with over heating on the engine I'm been hearing that's a problem with the exhaust. Can anyone comment back if they are having this issue with these Bad Boy.
I have not had a problem with that. I would think the tips would help move the heat out. Thought about wrapping the muffler with heat tape. But I haven't had any issues.
Thank you for responding back I really looking to purchase one of these but that's the one reason of over heating problems. I have to check it out and make sure everything is very good quality with the Bad Boys mowers
@@robertmalensek5736 FYI I had heard it’s not a good idea to wrap your muffler with heat tape because it holds too much heat in the muffler and will cause engine issues. Thanks for sharing your review.
Thanks for the information on the pipe extension can you tell me we’re you found the foot extension haven’t seen any tried eBay bad boy parts nothing to be found thanks again
217-209-3106 Steven Lee Job if I remeber right is a bad boy dealer. Heard the new ones come with one. So might be able to call bad boy and get one also.
For belt replacement, do you have an idler that holds the belt close to the pulley? I think I’m going to have to remove the idler on mine so that I can get my old belt off and put a new belt on. I can’t find any videos on how to do this. 😢
@@robertmalensek5736 I was able to remove mine. It was a chore but I finally figured it out. I tried to get the old belt off without removing it but, unfortunately, the belt would not go in between that rod and the pulley.
Scag are just as bad for loose bolts, we got a Fredom z a few month back, had to give it a spanner check after 10 mins as half a dozen bolts came loose
The tires are ruff on the yard, I have it down so I don't do it any more but took some practice. And the arms that attach to the deck have grease fittings.
I have the ZT Elite 48" deck and it's good mower. I've a LOT of chain link fence I have mow close to, nothing on the mower can stick out to snag the fence. Those exhaust extenders would never work on my machine as I would rip them right out on a fence line.
How about how many inches is your mower/ how much did it cost/what is the advantage with this size of Mower compared to a different size/ why is it So LOUD / I WATCHED COMPARISON W TORO TIMESAVER / WAS SO LOUD/ IS IT THE MOTOR/ BLADES MOVING SO FAST/ THE EXHAUST / I really like this mower/ I WANT TO MOW WITH AN ATTITUDE/ since I am a dad I will MOW WITH A DADITUDE !!!!
Has a 61 inch deck. Loud because the exhaust pipés dont go past the side shield, that is why I extended mine. This one runs around 10,000. Ride and cuts amazing
I bought the 2021 Rogue. The only thing I do not like is it cuts from 2 inches on up. I would prefer 1.5 inch cut on the low setting. Can I add a couple of washers to lower the blades? If so, what size?
@@robertmalensek5736 Thanks for the reply. With this suspension set up they have now, you don't really need a flat yard. I live in southeast Texas and get 3 plus inches of rain per month so water is not the issue. I mow twice a week so I was just curious about putting a couple of washers on and it not hurting my mower. You have some good video's. Thanks
Robert, I have same year & model. You mention the uncut grass & putting washers on top of the blades. Is it not cutting properly in just one portion of the deck or is it at random spots? I believe its due to the baffle being too long there in front of the blades.
I have a late 2019 model & mine was leaving a strip of random uncut grass from the left blade. After the dealer didn't seem to want to mess with it, I cut an inch of the baffle out & now it cuts like it should.
I don't have a lot of hills. The one I got haven't had a problem as long as you don't try to back up it. Just have to learn how to turn or it will tear up the grass.
@@robertmalensek5736 Did you friction-fit them onto your stock pipes, or was there any cutting/welding? I bought a set of tips and they are just so slightly loose when fitting over the stock exhaust.
Hello very nice mods I just bought one 2021 model I did notice it was much louder than my last one could you tell me we’re you got the exhaust extensions love them also I need a foot extension my self were did you find it looked it up couldn’t find one any information would be very appreciated
Got the extentions on ebay they just slid over the other exhaust and got tight when they reached the weld have never clamped them on. Got the foot extention from someone on a bad boy FB page a dealer has someone that makes them. Will look and see if I can get the number when I get out of FB jail 5 more days. 😆
I got the 2021 maverick with the fs730v where did u get the pipe extensions and the hitch id like to have both of them on it...I think I’ve put alil over 20 hours on it without an issue so far. Only takes me alil over two hours to mow my 5 1/2 acres.
Can you tell me how much gas you burn per hour? Some say that Kawasaki 1000 sucks a lot of gas. I'm going to buy a Rogue soon, and I'm trying to decide between the Kawasaki 1000, or the Vanguard with EFI. Gas is expensive these days...
I have no idea as I just mow my yard, and I just don't keep track of that. I know it isn't easy on fuel compared to my old rider per hour but what took me almost 4 hours to mow I can do in less than a hour if I get in a hurry. I have heard the Yamaha does well on fuel don't know about the Vangard. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If it quits raining here and the yards dries up I can fill it up and mow and see how much it takes.
@@robertmalensek5736 Thanks for the reply. My dealer called me this morning and told me they just got one in with the 33HP Yamaha EFI engine on it. I quickly went over and purchased it. That should be a great combo of power and fuel efficiency!
I don’t like bad boy because of the deck lift system. The pedal is too far back as you mentioned, I don’t like having my controls in two different locations how the choke is on the left side and throttle and key switch is on the right.
Someone said the new ones come with the pedal extension. And the choke being on the other side doesn't bother me, both easy reach. But love my mower and is built like a tank.
You shouldn’t lower your blades. You were driving to fast for the blades that you have. Get blades that have a higher bend on the backside of them which helps lift and or suck the grass more up into the blades for when driving faster!
@@robertmalensek5736 well If you don’t have the right blades can make a difference. Plus ppl don’t realize if the grass is a little wet, too tall makes a difference as well and don’t mention that. You can only go so fast in certain conditions. Plus another factor ppl don’t realize is also HP! Not enough rpm’s and going to fast blades don’t spin fast enough. Some problems can be the mower has to fast top end. Let’s not forget air pressure in your tires can make for patches not being mowed as well. Been there. Lol.. plus I know several ppl with those bad boys and never had the problems you had and they beat the crap out of theirs so they are not driving slow. I’m looking at get this year’s model. Adjustable handles, seat with the suspension. Which felt nice when I drove one. Suspension front and rear. Pretty nice.
? I have many things I have to raise my deck for while mowing. A long walk way paved with Stones,a bridge, I cross the gravel drives 4 times, tree roots etc.
That tailpipe mod was very professional looking. Nice work.
I bought a 2023 Rogue. It is a strong mower made with heavy steel and is beautifully simplistic in design. Was designed by race car people and it shows. I didn’t have any loose bolts or any other defects at all. It is very loud though. It is like a tornado the way it mows. Has a 39HP EFI engine and is a 72” deck.
I added pipes to get the sound a lot more manageable
I can personally vouch for the Rogue - mine is 61" with Yamaha 33hp
engine - does not sound like a mower engine - sounds like a hot rod -
have owned now for over 1 1/2 years - residential use - very pleased so
far. Run AMSOIL synthetic in everything for best oil on Earth
protection of everything. AMSOIL has a special 10 30 small engine oil
and 20 50 hydrostatic - also have synthetic grease for the grease gun.
On a 1-10 scale, it is as close to 10 as possible. Even got the fancy
aluminum Vector rims for rear which are truly nice versus standard
steel, and go perfectly with styling of Rogue versus plain jane steel.
Thumbs...way up !
I just bought my first zero turn mower today and it’s a23 Rogue , it will be delivered in a couple of days . I can’t wait 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Nice
Great review with really helpful info and tips. Also like your slow and deliberate presentation. Some reviewers just talk too fast. Great to hear Bad Boys customer support is top notch as well. That can be rare these days. Thanks for the review.
Glad you have more likes than dislikes. I just did my 8 hour maintenance on my 2021 Bad Boy Rebel. I have the same Kawasaki FX1000V motor as you do on mine. I love my Rebel.
Thanks . I’m interested in the turn outs , deck lift extension and washer trick also. Good vid.
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I just put 2 thick washers under the blades so the blades stick below the baffles.
Did you have to drill holes in the deck for the advanced chute system, or use the existing holes? Also do you think the reach would be too far for a 72" deck? Possibly add a curved extension to the handle to help with the reach?
@@fz10rider47 didn't have to drill holes. Would think you could still reach it. If it was to far I would just bend the handle a little.
@@robertmalensek5736 Thank you!
They sound like a Harley ,very nice sounding mower
The deck lift pedal extension now comes standard with the 2021 mowers.
I think so
I have to say it is good to hear that their customer service is good but I also feel like with the price tag on a mower at this level, they should have had better quality control and assurance. If I spend money on a mower, customer service is the last thing I’m checking off on my list. I want it ready to roll, no problems and can take a licking.
I am in several groups of different brand of mower and they all have some problems. I did a lot of reasearch before I bought one. all brands I researched the equal mower to the one I got where quite a bit more money.
That's for sure,when i gotta make special trips cause the dealer or manufacturer did a half Inspection i feel that the mower price is gouging me then!!!!!!!
Good job,
I have the bad boy elite model 54” cut, Kawasaki engine,
Noise has been a problem but I think my noise comes from the deck, as it does not make that much noise when the deck is not running,
I added a hitch and a old man’s mount handle plus the adjustable handles asi am a big boy,
So far it’s been a great mower,
I added the poor boy Shute plug, you bolt it on would love to have one like yours,
Take care,
Wow, you need to work for bad boy research and improvement department
Thanks for your review. You did some nice mods too. Really like the side lights.
Love the side lights work really well at night so you can see the deck sides and lights up front also. Got a video of them in action!
How did you attach the exhaust extensions weld on or clamp on?
Your turn out pipes are not spot welded or anything. I just got mine in.
Thanks for the good video
No just slid them on when hit the weld in the back got tight, and have been on over a year, and have not moved.
@@robertmalensek5736 where did you get your turn outs and what size?
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Thanks for being so honest with your review
Bad boy does make great mowers. I just like Hustler Fas trak 54. Like your video. Nice mower.
Still loving it... Hustler makes good mowers also.
Ok den.....I reckon I'll have some o dem french fried potaters........mmmm hmmmmmmm........
Just joined your channel sir... The videos help alot... I have the exact mower you have...
Glad the help out!
What size is the exhaust turn outs? Where’d you get them?
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Do you have any issues with over heating on the engine I'm been hearing that's a problem with the exhaust. Can anyone comment back if they are having this issue with these Bad Boy.
I have not had a problem with that. I would think the tips would help move the heat out. Thought about wrapping the muffler with heat tape. But I haven't had any issues.
I am on a bay boy Facebook page and haven't seen anyone post about that problem. Been on there 2 years.
Thank you for responding back I really looking to purchase one of these but that's the one reason of over heating problems. I have to check it out and make sure everything is very good quality with the Bad Boys mowers
@@robertmalensek5736 FYI I had heard it’s not a good idea to wrap your muffler with heat tape because it holds too much heat in the muffler and will cause engine issues. Thanks for sharing your review.
Haven't wrapped it. Will have to check it out. Have done it on cars and motorcycle with no problems
Thanks for the information on the pipe extension can you tell me we’re you found the foot extension haven’t seen any tried eBay bad boy parts nothing to be found thanks again
217-209-3106 Steven Lee Job if I remeber right is a bad boy dealer. Heard the new ones come with one. So might be able to call bad boy and get one also.
For belt replacement, do you have an idler that holds the belt close to the pulley? I think I’m going to have to remove the idler on mine so that I can get my old belt off and put a new belt on. I can’t find any videos on how to do this. 😢
I didn't have to remove it to put it on tho was very tight
@@robertmalensek5736 I was able to remove mine. It was a chore but I finally figured it out. I tried to get the old belt off without removing it but, unfortunately, the belt would not go in between that rod and the pulley.
Scag are just as bad for loose bolts, we got a Fredom z a few month back, had to give it a spanner check after 10 mins as half a dozen bolts came loose
I deffantly check mine more often after found them loose. So far they are the only ones I have that came loose.
12/3/21, Rob, you worried about leaves? I have a Gravely w/an Ohio Steel lawn sweeper; tweak/angle it right, it works like a charm.
I have lots of trees and the yard gets covered with several feet of them and several acres if I don't mulch them.
How does the tires do for not rutting up the yard while turning around? Also, does the deck have grease fittings on the pulleys? Thanks alot
The tires are ruff on the yard, I have it down so I don't do it any more but took some practice. And the arms that attach to the deck have grease fittings.
@@robertmalensek5736
Nice looking mower.
Thanks
What seat suspension did you add to your mower? Was it the seat isolation kit?
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I have the ZT Elite 48" deck and it's good mower. I've a LOT of chain link fence I have mow close to, nothing on the mower can stick out to snag the fence. Those exhaust extenders would never work on my machine as I would rip them right out on a fence line.
Pretty sure my tires stick out further than them. Will check when I make it back home.
Yea tires stick out further then them would be really hard to catch them on something
Where did you get tail pipe extensions
@joeparker7508 found them in ebay. Haven't seen them in a while.
How about how many inches is your mower/ how much did it cost/what is the advantage with this size of Mower compared to a different size/ why is it So LOUD / I WATCHED COMPARISON W TORO TIMESAVER / WAS SO LOUD/ IS IT THE MOTOR/ BLADES MOVING SO FAST/ THE EXHAUST / I really like this mower/ I WANT TO MOW WITH AN ATTITUDE/ since I am a dad I will MOW WITH A DADITUDE !!!!
Has a 61 inch deck. Loud because the exhaust pipés dont go past the side shield, that is why I extended mine. This one runs around 10,000. Ride and cuts amazing
@@robertmalensek5736 thank you
Also is built heavy duty!
Where did you get the pipes, what size are they? Thanks!
From ebay will have to look and see if I can find the size
I believe they are 1-1/2 ebay wouldn't let me go back that far.
Thanks for the idea. What size is the turnout pipe?
1 1/4 X 8
What size tailpipe is on the mower
@@terrencewalker9216 1 1/2
I bought the 2021 Rogue. The only thing I do not like is it cuts from 2 inches on up. I would prefer 1.5 inch cut on the low setting. Can I add a couple of washers to lower the blades? If so, what size?
Washers do lower the blades, I never cut that low my self would have to have a perfectly flat yard for that and water a lot.
@@robertmalensek5736
Thanks for the reply. With this suspension set up they have now, you don't really need a flat yard. I live in southeast Texas and get 3 plus inches of rain per month so water is not the issue. I mow twice a week so I was just curious about putting a couple of washers on and it not hurting my mower. You have some good video's. Thanks
I have run 3 thick washers on mine for over a year no problems!
Robert, I have same year & model. You mention the uncut grass & putting washers on top of the blades. Is it not cutting properly in just one portion of the deck or is it at random spots? I believe its due to the baffle being too long there in front of the blades.
If mowing fast leaves a little uncut grass when cutting.
I have a late 2019 model & mine was leaving a strip of random uncut grass from the left blade. After the dealer didn't seem to want to mess with it, I cut an inch of the baffle out & now it cuts like it should.
I have the 2021 model year. I agree it’s loud, where did you get the muffler turnouts
Found them on ebay
1 1/2 inlet 8 inch long stanless
Do you have a problem with your ztr tearing up the turf on hills???
I don't have a lot of hills. The one I got haven't had a problem as long as you don't try to back up it. Just have to learn how to turn or it will tear up the grass.
Nice mower.
Where did you get those turn out pipes?
Found them on ebay tho have looked a while back and couldn't find them on stock
@@robertmalensek5736 Did you friction-fit them onto your stock pipes, or was there any cutting/welding? I bought a set of tips and they are just so slightly loose when fitting over the stock exhaust.
@Amanda-xl9xy I just slid them on and pushed them tight agianst the weld and haven't moved since. Locked on pretty tight
@@robertmalensek5736 appreciate the answer, thanks!
Hello very nice mods I just bought one 2021 model I did notice it was much louder than my last one could you tell me we’re you got the exhaust extensions love them also I need a foot extension my self were did you find it looked it up couldn’t find one any information would be very appreciated
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Bought on Ebay they just slid on and got tight at the weld have never clamped them on and the never move
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Got the extentions on ebay they just slid over the other exhaust and got tight when they reached the weld have never clamped them on. Got the foot extention from someone on a bad boy FB page a dealer has someone that makes them. Will look and see if I can get the number when I get out of FB jail 5 more days. 😆
Did you add the step traction pads on the deck? Where did you get them? They look nice.
Bought them a Walmart was 1 long strip cut them out. Thanks
Thanks. I'll have to check that out.
Yea they where peel and stick
They can come with a hitch. It's the dealers fault for not ordering it that way.
Does it offer a bagger system?
Yes the do.
Is the engine EFI or carb?
Carb
What did you use for exhaust extensions,. I'm like you that 993 cc engine is super loud !!
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I got the 2021 maverick with the fs730v where did u get the pipe extensions and the hitch id like to have both of them on it...I think I’ve put alil over 20 hours on it without an issue so far. Only takes me alil over two hours to mow my 5 1/2 acres.
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Bought the receiver from a badboy dealership they had in stock
@@robertmalensek5736 awesome man thanks! How did you put the tips on ur mower?
I just slid them on and where the weld is they got snug and haven't came loose
@@robertmalensek5736 awesome that they fit that good haha thx man!
Can the sound bar be added to the rop bar with the light?
I do not know would guess you could mount up and mount one below.
Can you tell me how much gas you burn per hour? Some say that Kawasaki 1000 sucks a lot of gas. I'm going to buy a Rogue soon, and I'm trying to decide between the Kawasaki 1000, or the Vanguard with EFI. Gas is expensive these days...
I have no idea as I just mow my yard, and I just don't keep track of that. I know it isn't easy on fuel compared to my old rider per hour but what took me almost 4 hours to mow I can do in less than a hour if I get in a hurry. I have heard the Yamaha does well on fuel don't know about the Vangard. Sorry I can't be more helpful. If it quits raining here and the yards dries up I can fill it up and mow and see how much it takes.
@@robertmalensek5736 Thanks for the reply. My dealer called me this morning and told me they just got one in with the 33HP Yamaha EFI engine on it. I quickly went over and purchased it. That should be a great combo of power and fuel efficiency!
Does your overhead light draw bugs at night ?
Yup
@@robertmalensek5736 Thanks.
I don’t like bad boy because of the deck lift system. The pedal is too far back as you mentioned, I don’t like having my controls in two different locations how the choke is on the left side and throttle and key switch is on the right.
Someone said the new ones come with the pedal extension. And the choke being on the other side doesn't bother me, both easy reach. But love my mower and is built like a tank.
You can get an EFI engine and that will solve the choke issue.
You shouldn’t lower your blades. You were driving to fast for the blades that you have. Get blades that have a higher bend on the backside of them which helps lift and or suck the grass more up into the blades for when driving faster!
Had high lift blades and shouldn't have to drive the speed of a regular lawn tractor.
@@robertmalensek5736 well If you don’t have the right blades can make a difference. Plus ppl don’t realize if the grass is a little wet, too tall makes a difference as well and don’t mention that. You can only go so fast in certain conditions. Plus another factor ppl don’t realize is also HP! Not enough rpm’s and going to fast blades don’t spin fast enough. Some problems can be the mower has to fast top end. Let’s not forget air pressure in your tires can make for patches not being mowed as well. Been there. Lol.. plus I know several ppl with those bad boys and never had the problems you had and they beat the crap out of theirs so they are not driving slow. I’m looking at get this year’s model. Adjustable handles, seat with the suspension. Which felt nice when I drove one. Suspension front and rear. Pretty nice.
@@mxr248 love my mower and what I did fixed my issues. Super machine with plenty of power.
Omg just lower ur deck....goofy..haaa
? I have many things I have to raise my deck for while mowing. A long walk way paved with Stones,a bridge, I cross the gravel drives 4 times, tree roots etc.