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@@bengarcia9105 same like D.B. Cooper! Obviously in Marvel lore we know Loki took Frank, but IRL we don't know. We legit don't know what happened to em.
@@Persephone_Personified I’d like him to go back in time to just kill Thanos, imagine the look on his face coming back to smite him after just having snapped his neck. 😂
@@scooterjones303Yes. Thor Sylvie B15 OB He Who Remains. Yes. He Who Remains knew Loki was capable of overseeing all time (always) remember HWR had seen ALL of time and space.. so theoretically he’s already seen Loki do all of this.
@Persephone_Personified I just dont buy these ppl are his friends or particulary like each other. He's barely known them and they are his former jailers that went around pruning or killing ppl
My favorite bit of this episode was them insinuating that Casey was actually Frank Morris, from the real life Alcatraz escape in 1962. Same character that Clint Eastwood played in the 1979 movie Escape From Alcatraz, based on the real story. I thought it was so fucking cool they did that.
We practically had a new version of the Snap in this. Everyone, one by one, splitting and slipping away. Except this time it’s not just half. It’s not just people. It’s everything.
Indeed.. including the 616 main/sacred timeline. Loki has the lives of everyone, including Thor, in his hands. On every timeline. Loki may save the life of his brother and family, and possibly without them ever knowing. Honestly, I really hope this Loki gets to be reunited with the main timeline Thor.
Dude- she has her enhanced He Who Remains tem-pad. She bugged out as the TVA was about to explode and she went back to her branched timeline. That's why she remembered everything. She didn't get reset.
This ep hit me hard on multiple levels. Ke Huy’s character as a writer putting his own books on the shelves fucked me up (I’m in the process of editing and publishing my first novel) and Owen Wilson as a single dad who’s wife left him with the kids REALLY hit me hard, as someone who’s been in that position for a decade now. The writing conceit based around Ke Huy’s character discussing science (what and how) versus fiction (why) and then the answer really being “who” absolutely blew my hair back. Just a tremendous, tremendous episode
21:31 Mobius was a single dad, yes. But did his wife leave him and the boys?(voluntarily) Mobius says she's 'Long gone.' Think about his branched timeline. 2022 -during the 5years of the blip. His wife got snapped. But that's just my theory.
There's a theory out now that Mobius's (Don's) wife, who he said is long gone, might have disappeared when The Snap happened. Since it was 2022 on his timeline, she could reappear the next year. They were fairly vague with some details. I wonder if to fix everything Loki will find he has to go all the way back to when he took the Tesseract. But would that whole timeline be lost and all the characters be gone except Loki? Or maybe just as far back when HWR was killed and stop that?
What really got me in the feels is when Mobius said that *he’ll* know that he left his kids. Maybe the Mobius with TVA memories have this subconsciously on his mind that’s why he still choses not to know what his life was on the timeline.
That works. Everyone was send "where they are belong", both don't have branches, so they appeared where they think they're belong: Sylvie in her new McDonalds branch and Loki in TVA
I think because this Loki's timeline no longer exists, and he was pruned and brought back (twice in fact) made the TVA his "home" timeline, which is why he didn't disappear like all the others.
It's a fiction problem, but the question is "who" -- it's literally Main Character Syndrome. The show is Loki, Loki is the main character, so Loki gets to decide what happens 😂 I do wonder whether Sylvie kept her memories because she's Asgardian or because she's specifically a Loki. Mobius's original name was Don, by the way.
I'm wondering if she slipped out using her wrist temp-pad and we just didn't see it. The others ended up in their "original" lives, but she just went back to her McDonalds life. lol
I think this episode was us watching how the TVA was created. In the comics Loki become the God of Stories so by the end of the episode everything made sense to me.
This is 4 years are Mobius probably saw his wife getting dusted during the snap. Now he is seeing everyone getting turned into spaghetti, saying "I need to go back to see my boys" as it happens. No wonder he wasn't too keen on checking up on his timeline at TVA.
Goddamn, that temporal reset, by the end of the episode really gave that vibe of the body's last real push to survive, where you feel fine briefly, before it all starts to shut down again. It filled me with so much dread the moment Sylvie's meal disappeared, like the ticking bomb under the floorboard. I wish we could have gotten a little more of it, but it was absolutely reminiscent of the Snap. It feels perfect that at the end of this, it'll be as if nothing happened, but Loki and his friends were instrumental in ensuring that all existence, for better and worse, could continue! EDIT: I also love how Loki's time-slipping resembles the spaghettification, really tying him to this whole story in such a satisfying way.
Man, I am so glad I've been busy as hell the last several weeks and only just had time to catch up on this season this week. The episodes flowed so well in a continuous string, and I have to believe that waiting week to week for these has been agony. Great reaction and analysis as always; I love seeing Loki fully embrace his redeemed role as the God of Stories and understanding that the people in his life (the characters) are what he cares about the most, both because he doesn't want to be alone, but also because he really just genuinely cares about his band of misfits. And re: your point about the wild and trippy visuals, that's the main reason I was excited when Benson and Moorhead were announced to be directing some episodes of this season. Their filmmaking is all about that sort of thing, eerie and trippy tones, moods and visuals. Cheers!
I think Möbius’ sons are like Thor and Loki .. hence why he took so quickly to this version of Loki. The taser in OB’s office looked like a pruning stick/timestick. B15 might have been meant to die in her timeline bc she’s in NYC in 2012... aka Loki’s invasion of NY. I think Loki is going to end up being not only more powerful than Dr. Strange, but one of the most powerful beings in the MCU. I think Loki is the one that took all the characters from their timelines. . . we just saw it happen. He’s accidentally creating the TVA 💚
Yes, I think that's from the very early episode of the first season When some variants get pruned because he doesn't have any ticket to the court It'd be crazy if the TVA Agent who took Loki on the first season was himself all along All his doing to start the loop that became the main theme of this season
@@imaulana1 It was X-5/Brad Wolfe saying "You died! Insert your coin loser!" taken from the "Zaniac!" video game which was shown in the bar when Sylvie and Loki first walked in.
I like how Sylvie's idea of really living it up is apparently working at McDonalds and visiting the local record shop. I mean, that shit is definitely worth saying screw you to all the other timelines. haha
Notice how Loki timeslips in TVA and ends right where he left of. This means there is no past and he cannot travel more than a few seconds into the future. When TVA is disappearing, he cannot travel to the future and instead ends up on one of the timelines.
What was that " Brad: You died. Insert your coin, loser." in the last few seconds of the credit. I know it's coming from the arcade game from earlier scene.
Also, Mobius is basically like Odin. He has one mischievous son and one obedient son that he sends after the troublemaker. His wife even died like Odin.
Loki is really OP now! I read somewhere that he could be the most powerful being in the marvel multiverse right now, right under "The One Above All" because he is "The God of Stories" now (presumably) he can rewrite the story 🤯 It would make sense, could also be wrong 😂 cant wait for next week! 🤩 Great reaction, cheers from Austria✌
14:22 you seem to forget she's a loki variant. in the first season it shows how the TVA took her from Asgard, this isnt her branch timeline. she's in this timeline because she has he who remains' tem-pad. maybe the TVA's failsafe puts the tem-pad's owner in that last safest place it was in before meltdown. the TVA failsafe is a system that removes all TVA employees / occupants and puts them back in their branched timeline, maybe having the tem-pad changed that, or being a variant of loki changed that. one or the other.
Loki literally doesn’t belong anywhere which is crazy. He’s pruned out the timeline, his OG timeline got pruned, and he already saw his future. So truly, where does Loki belong?
Lmao there’s still actually 1 single McDonald’s left in Orlando, FL that sells spaghetti. And most of them in the Philippines also have it on the menu lol
I cant believe were on a path to get God of Stories Loki. This might be Marvels grand plan to rewrite the main timeline to include mutants or bring back loved characters like Tony.
My theory is bc Victor Timely died/reset...a new kang in charge has been pruning non-sacrate branches. (Our teammates were all on branches)... So maybe thats the who Loki concluded at the end? Save timely and the branches from getting future prunned? Haha loving this season ✨✨
I don’t think the mid-season teaser spoiled anything. There are more episodes despite the MCU apparently being destroyed. We knew that. The TVA agents had lives before the TVA. We knew that. (We did get to see their professions but that didn’t effect the story. It was awesome seeing Mobius was a recreational vehicle salesman.) Loki starts slipping again. We saw that in the season trailer months ago (unless you were restrained enough to avoid everything). But also with everything being destroyed, there wasn’t much else that could have happened to not end the story. It was my guess anyway. The only thing it did to me is torture me with things I knew where coming without explaining how that could be (which is honestly the most I want from a teaser is they decide to have one- get me excited).
If they all were from a branch timeline then none of them was meant for the secret timeline but Loki and that's why he time slips and no one else time slips
Don was the name Mobius was going by in the timeline. Sylvie annoys me to no end at this point. She wanted to give everyone free will, but then she was cool with all of them being stripped from the TVA without giving them the choice. Sylvie wanted her choice and didn’t care about anyone else’s.
She was okay with letting them live their own lives. What Loki says to convince Don is exactly the same offer given by He Who Remains to Loki and Sylvie in S1e6. I can't believe such a simple thing is going over the head.
@@kvm6 well no need to be rude. Go back to 28 minutes and watch their conversation. She literally shrugs when Loki says they should get a choice in the life they want. She doesn’t care about anyone else but herself. She only came running to Loki when she realized he had been right the whole time that it was all falling apart.
@@Ladmia is Loki giving them choice? No. TVA isn't a 9-5 job. It is For All Time Always. She is being selfish just like he is. But her being selfish is wrong and his is right?
@@thefinalfighter2578 He is still right in the beginning when he asks how many of the TVA employees would have chosen to stay instead of going back to the timeline. They weren’t given the choice, they were just sent back. His point is choice which should be Sylvie’s since that was she was all on about in the 1st season.
Maybe the Time Slipping simply came back because Loki was Alone again. I think Loki has deep hidden powers and the Time Slipping is just one of them that surfaced. So it returning was just instinct that was triggered by his "selfish" need to not end up alone??
I think the thing most people don't realize about the show is that, other than Loki, the cast members in this episode are NOT the same variants as in the TVA. They weren't reset, they weren't wiped of their memories, they didn't go back to their former lives. These variants are variants on the new branches formed after the death of He Who Remains, and as such never, at any point in their personal, chronological lifetimes, ever went to or knew about the TVA.
I disagree: 1. Sylvie is clearly, 100%, Sylvie. Why her and not the others? 2. Loki specifcially slipped to them (as opposed to a different Mobius on a different branch) because *they* were his friends 3. If they'd never been to the TVA, then they'd not have a shared temporal aura to lock onto. The TVA exists outside of time, I think the new timelines are branches because they each represent a timeline where the agent randomly ceased to exist (was plucked into the TVA). And I think that when the TVA unravelled they were each transported back into their respective branch at the exact second they left. Like Loki said he would do to Mobius. I don't know if it's technically a memory wipe, or what. But I do think those variants have been to the TVA even if they have no memory of it (or missing time.)
@@yuukinoyuki9064 Sylvie is Sylvie, I agree, but she has a tempad and it's implied she used it to get out of the TVA after the loom imploded. No other variant of Loki would have had a tempad because all other variants we've seen have been pruned. But the others, are NOT the same variants. The very fact the branches of all TVA agents have been pruned confirms as much. But even further, Victor Timely is from a branched timeline but has the same temporal aura as He Who Remains, who is presumably from the Sacred timeline, implying that all variants have the same temporal aura as one another. And all this is pretty obvious to me. Why nobody else understands it clearly is their problem. As for why Slyvie seemingly has a different temporal aura than other Lokis? He Who Remains made it so. He wrote the entirety of Loki and Sylvie's lives up until the moment Sylvie made the choice to kill him, so he probably wrote her as more than just a variant, but her own person, as well. She's unique in that way.
@@DarthTingleBinks Not quite how I see it. For one, I disagree that every Variant shares the same temporal aura. Loki and Sylvie have their own, unique, auras. You say its because He Who Remains (HWR) made it that way. I think it's the opposite; Victor has the same temporal aura as HWR because he was made into the same person (hence handing him the TVA handbook.) But even being the same person if you were to rewind Victor's personal timeline by 5, 10, 20 years you'd not end up at the end of Time with HWR because maybe Victor will become him, but he hasn't, yet. But what OB said was that if you gather all of the gang together (including Loki and Sylvie) and look at their temporal aura (a fingerprint of their timelines) that there would be 1 signature/note that is the same for all of them. That would represent the last moment in time they were all gathered together, and that's what OB could use to track the moment in time in the TVA before it was destroyed. And that's why I argue they're the actual TVA agents. I don't think they were sent to their original timelines, per se - those were pruned - I think they were sent to a branch that didn't have a chance to grow until HWR died. So, like, on the Sacred Timeline Don lives happily with his wife and kids. In 1 branch his wife dies in the Snap making Don an only father. He is ripped from that timeline to become Mobius and his timeline is pruned. But there is now an unexplored possibility, a branch that would have branched from Mobius' timeline. One where Don randomly disappeared and his kids are now orphans. The TVA exists outside of time, when HWR died timelines didn't start branching only from like 2023 onward. They started branching everywhere, all at once. I'd argue some of those unexplored timelines were actualized. Or maybe branches respawn. Or maybe there was a branch where both parents were dusted and Mobius slotted right into the convienently left space, etc. But the fact that the whole premise of the episode was that "who" mattered. And the whole premise of Slyvie's arc s1 was that variants of the same person are not the same person, it just feels like a weird artistic choice to pick up 5 random variants of his friends as opposed to the actual people he knew
@@yuukinoyuki9064 1. Your weird and completely unrelated notion of rewinding Victor's personal timeline and never ending up at the end of time is weird and unrelated. I know you can't rewind Victor's chronological timeline and get to the end of time, not just because that doesn't make sense, but because I don't think Victor is the same variant as HWR. Technically, with Loki now changing events within the TVA's chronological timeline, it's still possible he could at some point become HWR, but I find it unlikely. 2. I understand why you argue they're the same variants. I disagree, though. Because, again, the timelines the TVA agents came from were created explicitly to recruit agents and then to be immediately pruned. So any new branch timeline that forms now, even if individuals from them join the TVA at some point, will not be the same variants, because they're literally from different timelines. And again, I don't think Victor will become HWR at any point in his life. He plays a role in the plan HWR set in place, surely, but I don't think the plan is for Victor to be brought into a causal loop. 3. The TVA agents weren't sent anywhere, they spaghettified. That had no way of avoiding it, unlike Loki and Sylvie. And we have no reason to assume that individuals who are spaghettified are sent anywhere, or that they continue to exist at all. 4. Not really important, but for some reason people assume that events that happened on the sacred timeline also happened on branches, but with different outcomes. But that's not necessarily the case. It's completely possible for a branch to exist that never experienced the Chitauri invasion, the destruction of Sokovia, the blip, etc. Also, I assume that if a branch is pruned, any timelines that branch off of it will have also been pruned. So there exists no timeline in which it is even possible for Mobius to have come from. 5. The TVA does exist out of time. And I never implied that I think the branches only start in the year 2023. I understand that the branches occur at various different points in time throughout the sacred timeline. My point is, as I've reiterated time and time again, that these new branches cannot be the same branches the TVA agents came from, which necessitates that these are not the same variants as the TVA agents we know. If Marvel decides to write that they are the same variants, then so be it. It would just be a contradiction that I would hate, but have to accept. But as it stands now, I am sticking with my conclusion as it is the only logical conclusion to come to based on what the show has presented us. 6. Again, I've noted that all variants (with the exception of Loki and Sylvie), have the same temporal aura. And while the experiences of each variant are different from one another, making them effectively different people, the fact remains that they are literally the same people. Slyvie is her own person, but she is also a variant of the same person Loki is a variant of, making them the same person, while also being different people. That doesn't make sense, but it would make more sense than Marvel contradicting what they've written so far. It's not like they haven't done it before, but they've spent two seasons creating rules that have remained uncontradictory so far, and it would be weird if they started contradicting them now.
@@DarthTingleBinks I'll leave it here, then. My point about rewinding Victor's timeline was to express the distinction between sharing a temporal aura and having shared experiences in time, but I digress. At its core your argument centers on the fact the spaghetified people can't be "sent" anywhere. Which might be true, or it might not be. Being pruned was meant to erase you from time but it sent you somewhere instead. Time will tell if spaghettification is an instant death. Or if it just atomizes you in one timeline and reforms you in a different branch. I'm almost certain that this whole story is meant be a closed loop with Victor being HWR and the gang being VA agents. But, again, time will reveal if this is true or not.
But... the problem with Loki and HWR being "right" (as you said) about the TVA is that if it didn't exist this wouldn't be happening. It was explained by HWR (in 'For All Time. Always') that the natural state of the cosmos is a multiverse AKA "Universes stacked on top of his own", the fear of his variants (or his desire to be the only Kang) led him to create the TVA and the Loom (to win the Multiversal War), which forces the timelines into the Sacred Timeline (a wholly unnatural state for the cosmos). So, as Sylvie said (in 'The Nexux Event' ) "the universe wants to break free, so it manifests chaos"... AKA the cosmos wants to go back to its natural state. Unfortunately, they're now stuck wity having to fix the Loom to save what the Loom broke. Well, until something bigger happens, of course (like Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars). Its an ouroboros in itself
Also wonder if the Marvels will hint at what’s coming with Dr Strange. The incursions. Because Loki touches on that from all the branches disappearing.
this loki speed run his char dev in one sitting tho lol but yeah since ragnaloki is dead and we onlly got a taste of his redemtion whereas this loki got more screen time literally@@HellfireComms
It is possible that Loki becomes the new He Who Meinds, and the posters show him wearing an outfit that could have him in the finale. I hope it totally breaks it. 💚💚🔥🔥
So, when Loki time slips subconsciously, he duplicates himself, but when he does it on purpose, he slips back into his past self? Am I seeing that right? 🤔
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The fact that Casey was Frank Morris is a mind blower.
why?
@@mariusandersonsDude had Eastwood play him, now he's an anonymous schlub at the TVA.
@@mariusandersonsits the same reason why Loki is D.B. Cooper
So basically Frank Morris wasn't found till this day because Loki took him away.
@@bengarcia9105 same like D.B. Cooper! Obviously in Marvel lore we know Loki took Frank, but IRL we don't know. We legit don't know what happened to em.
Imagine how proud Thor would be seeing Loki with friends who care about him
What if Loki time slips to moments after he dies by Thanos...
He’ll finally have actual proof of how much his brother loves him.
@@Persephone_Personified I’d like him to go back in time to just kill Thanos, imagine the look on his face coming back to smite him after just having snapped his neck. 😂
Does anyone besides Morbius care about him?
@@scooterjones303Yes.
Thor
Sylvie
B15
OB
He Who Remains.
Yes.
He Who Remains knew Loki was capable of overseeing all time (always) remember HWR had seen ALL of time and space.. so theoretically he’s already seen Loki do all of this.
@Persephone_Personified I just dont buy these ppl are his friends or particulary like each other. He's barely known them and they are his former jailers that went around pruning or killing ppl
I was just happy to know that Loki actually thinks of them as friends. He’s come a long way.
why does he though?
@@scooterjones303 he was demonstrated his life had no greater meaning. Working with people at the TVA gave him that meaning.
“I can rewrite the story.” The God of Stories has arrived
My favorite bit of this episode was them insinuating that Casey was actually Frank Morris, from the real life Alcatraz escape in 1962. Same character that Clint Eastwood played in the 1979 movie Escape From Alcatraz, based on the real story. I thought it was so fucking cool they did that.
Living in the Bay Area and been to Alcatraz numerous times I agree. One of my favorite parts of the episode.
It’s just like in Season one where Loki was shown as Bradley Cooper
@@regulusking4299 you mean DB Cooper. Bradley Cooper voiced Rocket 😉.
@@Berto2K yeah opps. My mistake
Same
As soon as I saw the dummy I was crossing my fingers that it was Alcatraz. So happy I was right
We practically had a new version of the Snap in this. Everyone, one by one, splitting and slipping away. Except this time it’s not just half. It’s not just people. It’s everything.
Bro if this episode had ended after they all disappeared it basically would have been. Wild.
Indeed.. including the 616 main/sacred timeline. Loki has the lives of everyone, including Thor, in his hands. On every timeline. Loki may save the life of his brother and family, and possibly without them ever knowing. Honestly, I really hope this Loki gets to be reunited with the main timeline Thor.
loki god of stories
And avenger prime 😁
Dude- she has her enhanced He Who Remains tem-pad. She bugged out as the TVA was about to explode and she went back to her branched timeline. That's why she remembered everything. She didn't get reset.
Loki really saved the Multiverse.
Thank you Loki!
Well he theoretically save the timeline of his universe, not the multiverse.
I love the implication that the TVA’s whole old-school aesthetic is because OB (who helped design it) was a science fiction writer.
He wasn't just any writer he was the writer of hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy
@thanatos6986 A.D. Doug, Douglas Adams... I don't think it's a coincidence, but probably more of a nod to the name than anything else.
This ep hit me hard on multiple levels. Ke Huy’s character as a writer putting his own books on the shelves fucked me up (I’m in the process of editing and publishing my first novel) and Owen Wilson as a single dad who’s wife left him with the kids REALLY hit me hard, as someone who’s been in that position for a decade now. The writing conceit based around Ke Huy’s character discussing science (what and how) versus fiction (why) and then the answer really being “who” absolutely blew my hair back. Just a tremendous, tremendous episode
Mobius' timeline was 2022. That was before the Avengers reversed the snap, so perhaps she was dusted.
Nah, he was in 2022. She was probably dust.
@@alibaba-pi7onyep, had the same thought about her dusting. Didn’t change how it hit me as a viewer though
Loki's line at the end left me beating my couch man. This show is absolute PEAK!!!!
And we got Gen v finale and Invincible season 2 JUST AFTER THIS!!
This is it, the transition from god of mischief, to god of stories :)))
21:31 Mobius was a single dad, yes. But did his wife leave him and the boys?(voluntarily)
Mobius says she's 'Long gone.'
Think about his branched timeline.
2022 -during the 5years of the blip.
His wife got snapped.
But that's just my theory.
There's a theory out now that Mobius's (Don's) wife, who he said is long gone, might have disappeared when The Snap happened. Since it was 2022 on his timeline, she could reappear the next year. They were fairly vague with some details.
I wonder if to fix everything Loki will find he has to go all the way back to when he took the Tesseract. But would that whole timeline be lost and all the characters be gone except Loki? Or maybe just as far back when HWR was killed and stop that?
I might have tiny squealed when I saw that B15 was in 2012 NYC.
Loki with power of friendship
What really got me in the feels is when Mobius said that *he’ll* know that he left his kids. Maybe the Mobius with TVA memories have this subconsciously on his mind that’s why he still choses not to know what his life was on the timeline.
22:29 damn i just realized, maybe that's why loki and sylvie still remember what happened, because their timelines were already pruned...
That works. Everyone was send "where they are belong", both don't have branches, so they appeared where they think they're belong: Sylvie in her new McDonalds branch and Loki in TVA
Sylvie peaced out with her tempad and Loki was taken out of time in ep 1. That's why they remember. The others didn't have either of those advantages.
Man, I keep expecting these episodes to be too much of a slow burn and they ALWAYS kick my ass emotionally by the end. This season's been fantastic.
No time for slow burns when seasons are only 6-8 episodes now. lol
What a fun little episode. Shit is about to go WILD.
Bro, thank you. I was bored strolling through youtube
I was so happy that we finally got to see Mobious real life 🙏🏻 and all the others too. So far I’ve loved every episode of this season
Good to get some insight on how they filmed his time slipping. Just Tom Hiddleston channeling his inner Jim Carrey!
Crazy episode
I think because this Loki's timeline no longer exists, and he was pruned and brought back (twice in fact) made the TVA his "home" timeline, which is why he didn't disappear like all the others.
I was surprised that Mobius is from 2022, i honestly would have expected him to be taken from the 80s, maybe 90s
I like that he’s been exposed to so much time radiation he immune to it.
It's a fiction problem, but the question is "who" -- it's literally Main Character Syndrome. The show is Loki, Loki is the main character, so Loki gets to decide what happens 😂 I do wonder whether Sylvie kept her memories because she's Asgardian or because she's specifically a Loki.
Mobius's original name was Don, by the way.
I'm wondering if she slipped out using her wrist temp-pad and we just didn't see it. The others ended up in their "original" lives, but she just went back to her McDonalds life. lol
Let's go! Pretty mindbumpy!
I think this episode was us watching how the TVA was created. In the comics Loki become the God of Stories so by the end of the episode everything made sense to me.
The spaghettification of characters was Spider-Man Infinity War level sadness.
This episode is like watching Infinity War all over again
This is 4 years are Mobius probably saw his wife getting dusted during the snap. Now he is seeing everyone getting turned into spaghetti, saying "I need to go back to see my boys" as it happens. No wonder he wasn't too keen on checking up on his timeline at TVA.
Goddamn, that temporal reset, by the end of the episode really gave that vibe of the body's last real push to survive, where you feel fine briefly, before it all starts to shut down again. It filled me with so much dread the moment Sylvie's meal disappeared, like the ticking bomb under the floorboard. I wish we could have gotten a little more of it, but it was absolutely reminiscent of the Snap. It feels perfect that at the end of this, it'll be as if nothing happened, but Loki and his friends were instrumental in ensuring that all existence, for better and worse, could continue!
EDIT: I also love how Loki's time-slipping resembles the spaghettification, really tying him to this whole story in such a satisfying way.
Had to rewatch this episode again, and I just learned something for sure that you missed right before the Marvel Studios logo at the end.
Man, I am so glad I've been busy as hell the last several weeks and only just had time to catch up on this season this week. The episodes flowed so well in a continuous string, and I have to believe that waiting week to week for these has been agony. Great reaction and analysis as always; I love seeing Loki fully embrace his redeemed role as the God of Stories and understanding that the people in his life (the characters) are what he cares about the most, both because he doesn't want to be alone, but also because he really just genuinely cares about his band of misfits. And re: your point about the wild and trippy visuals, that's the main reason I was excited when Benson and Moorhead were announced to be directing some episodes of this season. Their filmmaking is all about that sort of thing, eerie and trippy tones, moods and visuals. Cheers!
I think Möbius’ sons are like Thor and Loki .. hence why he took so quickly to this version of Loki.
The taser in OB’s office looked like a pruning stick/timestick.
B15 might have been meant to die in her timeline bc she’s in NYC in 2012... aka Loki’s invasion of NY.
I think Loki is going to end up being not only more powerful than Dr. Strange, but one of the most powerful beings in the MCU.
I think Loki is the one that took all the characters from their timelines. . . we just saw it happen. He’s accidentally creating the TVA
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I agree I have also been avoiding that trailer, I wanna experience this raw through the show
bloody hell what an episode
This was INSANE just imagine how the last one wil be 🤯
Dang you got this edited and posted quick. Thanks for reacting! (Also I didn’t watch the mid season trailer either so same page lol)
totally hooked, why can't the MCU take this momentum and keep going?!
Writers and directers in this show actually do their jobs right
Because each show has their own theme, can't expect all the shows to be the same
it doesn't feel like Marvel it's just great@@braedensinner
@@katevand thats what ive said it dont feel like marvel
Did anyone catch the after credit scene, it was audio only.
No????? What was it??? 😮
Yes, I think that's from the very early episode of the first season
When some variants get pruned because he doesn't have any ticket to the court
It'd be crazy if the TVA Agent who took Loki on the first season was himself all along
All his doing to start the loop that became the main theme of this season
@@imaulana1 It was X-5/Brad Wolfe saying "You died! Insert your coin loser!" taken from the "Zaniac!" video game which was shown in the bar when Sylvie and Loki first walked in.
I like how Sylvie's idea of really living it up is apparently working at McDonalds and visiting the local record shop. I mean, that shit is definitely worth saying screw you to all the other timelines. haha
Loki God of Stories and Myths.
Notice how Loki timeslips in TVA and ends right where he left of. This means there is no past and he cannot travel more than a few seconds into the future. When TVA is disappearing, he cannot travel to the future and instead ends up on one of the timelines.
What was that " Brad: You died. Insert your coin, loser." in the last few seconds of the credit. I know it's coming from the arcade game from earlier scene.
Also, Mobius is basically like Odin. He has one mischievous son and one obedient son that he sends after the troublemaker. His wife even died like Odin.
And one of the sons wants dog and snake - Fenrir and Jormungandr
It just hit me that all versions of B15 don't trust branches.
Boooooooo (hits Like button)
8:43 OB Words remind me of Doctor Strange convince America to control her power.
Yeah this episode was crazy…. But I loved it!
Loki is really OP now! I read somewhere that he could be the most powerful being in the marvel multiverse right now, right under "The One Above All" because he is "The God of Stories" now (presumably) he can rewrite the story 🤯
It would make sense, could also be wrong 😂 cant wait for next week! 🤩
Great reaction, cheers from Austria✌
I absolutely love what they are doing with this show.
The end bit when they all spaghettified gave me major Infinity War dusting vibes 💀😅😭
That ending felt like the snap 2.0. Absolutely horrific and beautifully shot. This show is the darkest thing marvel has ever done.
14:22 you seem to forget she's a loki variant.
in the first season it shows how the TVA took her from Asgard, this isnt her branch timeline.
she's in this timeline because she has he who remains' tem-pad. maybe the TVA's failsafe puts the tem-pad's owner in that last safest place it was in before meltdown.
the TVA failsafe is a system that removes all TVA employees / occupants and puts them back in their branched timeline, maybe having the tem-pad changed that, or being a variant of loki changed that. one or the other.
Yep and I get into most of that later
Quantum Loki is amazing.
Loki literally doesn’t belong anywhere which is crazy. He’s pruned out the timeline, his OG timeline got pruned, and he already saw his future. So truly, where does Loki belong?
Loki is in control
What a FANTASTIC episode. And I LOVE the musical score at the very end.
There you go folks, Loki is now a God of Stories in both comics and in the movies.
Lmao there’s still actually 1 single McDonald’s left in Orlando, FL that sells spaghetti. And most of them in the Philippines also have it on the menu lol
McDonald's did indeed have McSpaghetti - from 1970 until it was discontinued in 1980 (except in the Philippines), two years before this takes place.
Im glad Loki is a changed man. He can easily conquer New York with this power. Loki basically have some of Kang's time travel power
Casey is Frank Morris 1 of the 3 escapees that escaped from Alcatraz that we never found...cool Just like Loki playing DB Cooper
Great reaction and this is amazing episode 🎉
And thus the God of Stories was born!
I wonder if the finale will set up Deadpool 3 and Secret Wars
most likely also The Marvels, the last trailer said, "that reality is leaking into ours", probably cause of the spaghetti stuff we saw today
I cant believe were on a path to get God of Stories Loki. This might be Marvels grand plan to rewrite the main timeline to include mutants or bring back loved characters like Tony.
Heads up, there's an audio at the very end of the credits
16:38 well not in the Philippines 🤣
Loki is now the God of Stories
since sylvie can enchant people, can she also insert their respective memories from the tva? for mobius, b-15, casey and ob?
Omni Sylvie and Loki are Nors God's that's why they aren't affected
Loki in Comics God of Stories
This new ability of Loki is pretty op. He’s now like the most broken character in the verse
My theory is bc Victor Timely died/reset...a new kang in charge has been pruning non-sacrate branches. (Our teammates were all on branches)... So maybe thats the who Loki concluded at the end? Save timely and the branches from getting future prunned? Haha loving this season ✨✨
I don’t think the mid-season teaser spoiled anything.
There are more episodes despite the MCU apparently being destroyed. We knew that.
The TVA agents had lives before the TVA. We knew that. (We did get to see their professions but that didn’t effect the story. It was awesome seeing Mobius was a recreational vehicle salesman.)
Loki starts slipping again. We saw that in the season trailer months ago (unless you were restrained enough to avoid everything). But also with everything being destroyed, there wasn’t much else that could have happened to not end the story. It was my guess anyway.
The only thing it did to me is torture me with things I knew where coming without explaining how that could be (which is honestly the most I want from a teaser is they decide to have one- get me excited).
Loki now has the power of Hiro Nakamura from the TV show Heroes
If they all were from a branch timeline then none of them was meant for the secret timeline but Loki and that's why he time slips and no one else time slips
Sylvie’s timeline was prune when she was taken by the TVA, no longer exist.
Don was the name Mobius was going by in the timeline. Sylvie annoys me to no end at this point. She wanted to give everyone free will, but then she was cool with all of them being stripped from the TVA without giving them the choice. Sylvie wanted her choice and didn’t care about anyone else’s.
She was okay with letting them live their own lives.
What Loki says to convince Don is exactly the same offer given by He Who Remains to Loki and Sylvie in S1e6.
I can't believe such a simple thing is going over the head.
@@kvm6 well no need to be rude.
Go back to 28 minutes and watch their conversation. She literally shrugs when Loki says they should get a choice in the life they want. She doesn’t care about anyone else but herself. She only came running to Loki when she realized he had been right the whole time that it was all falling apart.
@@Ladmia is Loki giving them choice? No. TVA isn't a 9-5 job. It is For All Time Always. She is being selfish just like he is. But her being selfish is wrong and his is right?
@@Ladmia the whole conversation was about how they’re both selfish, they just going different routes to achieve their selfish goals.
@@thefinalfighter2578 He is still right in the beginning when he asks how many of the TVA employees would have chosen to stay instead of going back to the timeline. They weren’t given the choice, they were just sent back. His point is choice which should be Sylvie’s since that was she was all on about in the 1st season.
Maybe the Time Slipping simply came back because Loki was Alone again. I think Loki has deep hidden powers and the Time Slipping is just one of them that surfaced. So it returning was just instinct that was triggered by his "selfish" need to not end up alone??
Love this show, wish we weren't at the end! 😮
I think the key is loki dying when he was supposed to die
I think the thing most people don't realize about the show is that, other than Loki, the cast members in this episode are NOT the same variants as in the TVA. They weren't reset, they weren't wiped of their memories, they didn't go back to their former lives. These variants are variants on the new branches formed after the death of He Who Remains, and as such never, at any point in their personal, chronological lifetimes, ever went to or knew about the TVA.
I disagree:
1. Sylvie is clearly, 100%, Sylvie. Why her and not the others?
2. Loki specifcially slipped to them (as opposed to a different Mobius on a different branch) because *they* were his friends
3. If they'd never been to the TVA, then they'd not have a shared temporal aura to lock onto.
The TVA exists outside of time, I think the new timelines are branches because they each represent a timeline where the agent randomly ceased to exist (was plucked into the TVA). And I think that when the TVA unravelled they were each transported back into their respective branch at the exact second they left.
Like Loki said he would do to Mobius.
I don't know if it's technically a memory wipe, or what. But I do think those variants have been to the TVA even if they have no memory of it (or missing time.)
@@yuukinoyuki9064 Sylvie is Sylvie, I agree, but she has a tempad and it's implied she used it to get out of the TVA after the loom imploded. No other variant of Loki would have had a tempad because all other variants we've seen have been pruned. But the others, are NOT the same variants. The very fact the branches of all TVA agents have been pruned confirms as much. But even further, Victor Timely is from a branched timeline but has the same temporal aura as He Who Remains, who is presumably from the Sacred timeline, implying that all variants have the same temporal aura as one another. And all this is pretty obvious to me. Why nobody else understands it clearly is their problem.
As for why Slyvie seemingly has a different temporal aura than other Lokis? He Who Remains made it so. He wrote the entirety of Loki and Sylvie's lives up until the moment Sylvie made the choice to kill him, so he probably wrote her as more than just a variant, but her own person, as well. She's unique in that way.
@@DarthTingleBinks Not quite how I see it. For one, I disagree that every Variant shares the same temporal aura. Loki and Sylvie have their own, unique, auras. You say its because He Who Remains (HWR) made it that way. I think it's the opposite; Victor has the same temporal aura as HWR because he was made into the same person (hence handing him the TVA handbook.) But even being the same person if you were to rewind Victor's personal timeline by 5, 10, 20 years you'd not end up at the end of Time with HWR because maybe Victor will become him, but he hasn't, yet.
But what OB said was that if you gather all of the gang together (including Loki and Sylvie) and look at their temporal aura (a fingerprint of their timelines) that there would be 1 signature/note that is the same for all of them. That would represent the last moment in time they were all gathered together, and that's what OB could use to track the moment in time in the TVA before it was destroyed. And that's why I argue they're the actual TVA agents.
I don't think they were sent to their original timelines, per se - those were pruned - I think they were sent to a branch that didn't have a chance to grow until HWR died.
So, like, on the Sacred Timeline Don lives happily with his wife and kids. In 1 branch his wife dies in the Snap making Don an only father. He is ripped from that timeline to become Mobius and his timeline is pruned. But there is now an unexplored possibility, a branch that would have branched from Mobius' timeline. One where Don randomly disappeared and his kids are now orphans.
The TVA exists outside of time, when HWR died timelines didn't start branching only from like 2023 onward. They started branching everywhere, all at once. I'd argue some of those unexplored timelines were actualized. Or maybe branches respawn. Or maybe there was a branch where both parents were dusted and Mobius slotted right into the convienently left space, etc.
But the fact that the whole premise of the episode was that "who" mattered. And the whole premise of Slyvie's arc s1 was that variants of the same person are not the same person, it just feels like a weird artistic choice to pick up 5 random variants of his friends as opposed to the actual people he knew
@@yuukinoyuki9064 1. Your weird and completely unrelated notion of rewinding Victor's personal timeline and never ending up at the end of time is weird and unrelated. I know you can't rewind Victor's chronological timeline and get to the end of time, not just because that doesn't make sense, but because I don't think Victor is the same variant as HWR. Technically, with Loki now changing events within the TVA's chronological timeline, it's still possible he could at some point become HWR, but I find it unlikely.
2. I understand why you argue they're the same variants. I disagree, though. Because, again, the timelines the TVA agents came from were created explicitly to recruit agents and then to be immediately pruned. So any new branch timeline that forms now, even if individuals from them join the TVA at some point, will not be the same variants, because they're literally from different timelines. And again, I don't think Victor will become HWR at any point in his life. He plays a role in the plan HWR set in place, surely, but I don't think the plan is for Victor to be brought into a causal loop.
3. The TVA agents weren't sent anywhere, they spaghettified. That had no way of avoiding it, unlike Loki and Sylvie. And we have no reason to assume that individuals who are spaghettified are sent anywhere, or that they continue to exist at all.
4. Not really important, but for some reason people assume that events that happened on the sacred timeline also happened on branches, but with different outcomes. But that's not necessarily the case. It's completely possible for a branch to exist that never experienced the Chitauri invasion, the destruction of Sokovia, the blip, etc. Also, I assume that if a branch is pruned, any timelines that branch off of it will have also been pruned. So there exists no timeline in which it is even possible for Mobius to have come from.
5. The TVA does exist out of time. And I never implied that I think the branches only start in the year 2023. I understand that the branches occur at various different points in time throughout the sacred timeline. My point is, as I've reiterated time and time again, that these new branches cannot be the same branches the TVA agents came from, which necessitates that these are not the same variants as the TVA agents we know. If Marvel decides to write that they are the same variants, then so be it. It would just be a contradiction that I would hate, but have to accept. But as it stands now, I am sticking with my conclusion as it is the only logical conclusion to come to based on what the show has presented us.
6. Again, I've noted that all variants (with the exception of Loki and Sylvie), have the same temporal aura. And while the experiences of each variant are different from one another, making them effectively different people, the fact remains that they are literally the same people. Slyvie is her own person, but she is also a variant of the same person Loki is a variant of, making them the same person, while also being different people. That doesn't make sense, but it would make more sense than Marvel contradicting what they've written so far. It's not like they haven't done it before, but they've spent two seasons creating rules that have remained uncontradictory so far, and it would be weird if they started contradicting them now.
@@DarthTingleBinks I'll leave it here, then. My point about rewinding Victor's timeline was to express the distinction between sharing a temporal aura and having shared experiences in time, but I digress. At its core your argument centers on the fact the spaghetified people can't be "sent" anywhere. Which might be true, or it might not be. Being pruned was meant to erase you from time but it sent you somewhere instead. Time will tell if spaghettification is an instant death. Or if it just atomizes you in one timeline and reforms you in a different branch.
I'm almost certain that this whole story is meant be a closed loop with Victor being HWR and the gang being VA agents. But, again, time will reveal if this is true or not.
But... the problem with Loki and HWR being "right" (as you said) about the TVA is that if it didn't exist this wouldn't be happening. It was explained by HWR (in 'For All Time. Always') that the natural state of the cosmos is a multiverse AKA "Universes stacked on top of his own", the fear of his variants (or his desire to be the only Kang) led him to create the TVA and the Loom (to win the Multiversal War), which forces the timelines into the Sacred Timeline (a wholly unnatural state for the cosmos). So, as Sylvie said (in 'The Nexux Event' ) "the universe wants to break free, so it manifests chaos"... AKA the cosmos wants to go back to its natural state. Unfortunately, they're now stuck wity having to fix the Loom to save what the Loom broke. Well, until something bigger happens, of course (like Kang Dynasty or Secret Wars). Its an ouroboros in itself
Actually McDonalds sold spaghetti until 1980
Actually, McDonald's have Spaghetti, you can find it in the Philippines 😅
They do sell spaghetti in the Philippines.
What if loki is He Who Remains himself shapeshift into Jonathan Majors. Lol
He “Who” remains or He “who” writes stories 😏
Also wonder if the Marvels will hint at what’s coming with Dr Strange. The incursions. Because Loki touches on that from all the branches disappearing.
The McSpaghetti exist in the Philippines.
I came here to say this! Haha with a side of fried chicken!
Mobius lived in Cleveland, Ohio and sells jet skies.
so whos the mre likeable loki? ragnarok or tva? both got char development and became good
That's actually a pretty good question. I think I like this version of Loki more overall.
this loki speed run his char dev in one sitting tho lol but yeah since ragnaloki is dead and we onlly got a taste of his redemtion whereas this loki got more screen time literally@@HellfireComms
The year is right, so I think Mobius’ wife was snapped by Thanos.
It is possible that Loki becomes the new He Who Meinds, and the posters show him wearing an outfit that could have him in the finale. I hope it totally breaks it. 💚💚🔥🔥
Loki's time slipping power does look like an early version of how He Who Remains was teleporting all over the place in the S1 finale.
So, when Loki time slips subconsciously, he duplicates himself, but when he does it on purpose, he slips back into his past self? Am I seeing that right? 🤔
There are McDonald’s that sell spaghetti.
Mobius is a better name than Don.